That quote, which sums up the tone of President Obama’s State of the Union address perfectly, comes from former Reagan speechwriter Peter Robinson of the Hoover Institute. Robinson is interviewed, alongside Mark Steyn, in the first edition of former Cheers producer/writer Rob Long’s new Ricochet podcast. Tune in here to listen.

(You can hear my interview with Rob recorded onboard the National Review cruise immediately after the 2008 presidential election here.)