Negotiations with Iran: Obama’s ‘October Surprise’ to Help Win Election?
Are supposed negotiations with Iran the “October Surprise” intended to win the election for President Barack Obama, an Iranian trick for buying time, or both?
The answer is both. It’s an incredibly transparent ploy, though with the cooperation of the mass media such a gimmick might well have some effect.
Here’s the scenario we are supposed to believe: Obama’s sanctions (the tough Obama) have severely damaged Iran and so Tehran is looking for a way out. At the same time, Obama’s flexibility in dealing with possible enemies wins them over (the empathetic Obama). Thus, Obama’s greatness as a statesman might solve the problem of Iran’s nuclear drive short of war.
Let’s note some of the evidence that this ploy meets the needs of both sides in the conflict. For Obama, it is a potential electoral gain at the last minute in a hard-fought election in which his foreign policy has come under severe questioning. For the Iranian regime, the development buys even more time as it continues to go full-steam ahead with its nuclear drive.
If the Iranians are really sophisticated about American politics they understand the advantages for themselves:
– There will be pressure against new sanctions for the next six months or more since it could be said in the United States that these would damage a promising initiative.
– It might help reelect Obama, who is significantly softer on Iran. If the Iranians believe that a President Mitt Romney might launch a U.S. attack or support an Israeli one — I don’t believe this, but probably they do — that makes helping Obama win a top priority.
– Since the talks wouldn’t be until next year, Iran has to give up nothing to make the initiative. Note, too, that during the last five years Iran has repeatedly proposed different diplomatic formulae both in terms of meetings and potential compromises, only to retract them or make clear that Tehran’s terms are going to be unacceptable.
According to the Times, the agreement is: “ … a result of intense, secret exchanges between American and Iranian officials that date almost to the beginning of President Obama’s term.” In other words, nothing has happened for four years and suddenly we have a deal.
Sound suspicious?
All this involves then is an Iranian offer to start talks, talks which could break down in a few hours or go on for years without result. Of course, the first Iranian demand will be for easing the sanctions.
Note, too, that the Obama administration officially denied the report — hey, we’re not playing politics with foreign policy! — and then leaked that it was true to its friends in the media.
The new situation can also be used to paint Republican candidate Mitt Romney as a potential warmonger. In the words of the New York Times:
It is also far from clear that Mr. Obama’s opponent, Mitt Romney, would go through with the negotiation should he win election. Mr. Romney has repeatedly criticized the president as showing weakness on Iran and failing to stand firmly with Israel against the Iranian nuclear threat.
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Moreover, the prospect of one-on-one negotiations could put Mr. Romney in an awkward spot, since he has opposed allowing Iran to enrich uranium to any level — a concession that experts say will probably figure in any deal on the nuclear program.
One key issue is the difference between the U.S. and Israeli positions. The Obama administration says that Iran can have all the fixings of a bomb as long as it doesn’t build one, or that Tehran must be stopped short of having everything in place. The problem with the first option, of course, is that Iran could secretly or quickly assemble bombs (including those that might be delivered by terrorists). The second option is tougher to enforce, less likely to be negotiated, and more likely to bring military action.
As the Times rightly points out:
[For Romney] [t]he danger of opposing such a diplomatic initiative is that it could make him look as if he is willing to risk another American war in the Middle East without exhausting alternatives.
The story continues:
“It would be unconscionable to go to war if we haven’t had such discussions,” said R. Nicholas Burns, who led negotiations with Iran as under secretary of state in the George W. Bush administration.
So in other words, the U.S. government is under pressure to talk as long as Iran wants, even if Iran is moving ahead on its nuclear program at every moment during the long, drawn-out, and inconclusive chatting.
There is, of course, no solution. Sanctions — as a new Congressional Research Service study points out — aren’t stopping Iran from building nuclear weapons and long-range missiles able to deliver them onto targets. Diplomacy won’t work, except possibly for the fig leaf of having Iran own all the pieces for those weapons and simply promising not to assemble them. War is unattractive for the United States — and despite all you’ve heard, for Israel, too. Does a scenario of the next U.S. president launching a major, long-term military operation against Iran seem likely — whether or not you’d like to see that happen — especially immediately after the end of two controversial, costly wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?
What’s most likely is that Iran will get nuclear weapons.
And that makes it more important that whoever is conducting the containment and conflict strategy better be tough and credible to Tehran. The irony is that this Iranian ploy might well result in reelecting the man least likely to do that.






While it’s certainly true that “(w)ar is unattractive”, how is containment a more promising long-term strategy for an Iran w/nuclear weapons?
Well, so far there hasn’t been a state that was prevented from getting nuclear weapons, if they really wanted the weapons: and the nuclear nonproliferation treaty allows for the development of peaceful nuclear energy programs, which, of course, can be dual use. So the treaty is really not a nuclear weapons development prevention treaty at all when it’s not enforced, and containment, whether for conventional or nuclear weapons, has never worked. Along with Japan and Germany, I suspect the Middle East will shortly be getting on the nuclear band wagon. Given human nature and the need for learning through exemplification, I certainly wouldn’t assume that the previous use of nuclear weapons will be last use of nuclear weapons in the history of humans.
“Well, so far there hasn’t been a state that was prevented from getting nuclear weapons, if they really wanted the weapons”.
See Iraq, Syria and Libya. All prevented from acquiring nuclear weapons by force or the threat of force.
None of this will matter, because ObaMAO is finished as of November 6th.-and out for good January 20th, 2013.
By now Ahmydinnerjacket and Obama have about the same credibility level so this speculation is probably moot.
Romney’s task is to eviscerate Barack HUSSEIN Obama’s real message – that a Romney Presidency will only drag the U.S. into another war,with all its attendant costs.
Now, anyone who has been paying attention knows, all the jaw jaw in the world will not change the genocidal mullah’s plans from their bomb killing project. In fact, Valerie Jarrett ( and surrogates )has been shuttling back and forth to Tehran for months, all in order to attain their promise to ‘temporarily’ halt enrichment, in exchange for a cessation of sanctions.
In other words, the price for re-election will be paid, by allowing Iran to go nuclear during his second term. The POTUS clearly is more interested in thwarting an Israeli pre-emption, than stopping genocidal mullahs. That tells the tale -http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/10/19/is-a-deal-being-cut-with-irans-hitlerite-regime-to-save-the-islamist-in-chiefs-electoral-prospects-smokin-the-free-world-in-the-process-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
The Iranians have been on stall tactic talkings for over a decade. Talks with Iran are transparent enough, just don’t plan on any positive results. Putting this media generated non-news is the huckster who sells ‘energized water.’
While we are at it, which other fearless world leaders would like to see Obama continue steering the ship of state for the next four years? There is Putin, Chavez, Castro, the Taliban, the calliphate wanna-bes, and at least the central committee for China. Their endorsement is valuable to shape the opinions of the candidate. The new Obama flag has a lot of white in it.
I doesn’t matter to the Iranians. They will pursue nuclear weapons at any cost; they don’t care if their people eat dirt or starve or run out of petrol.
So the deal has about the same amount of “value” as Chamberlain’s deal with Hiter, which is none, zip, nil, zero, nada. Worse, it lets O’Dismal pretend and preen, while the centrifuges whirr and spin. Played like a fiddle, except O’Dismal is playing for the other side.
Excellent point, PattyMor. Any “deal” struck with the Iranian regime is BS from the start, because the mullah’s will do whatever it takes to get a nuke. Obama is living on Xanthar-14 if he thinks this deal will do sh*t.
He wants Iran to have a nuke.
true.
Obama is falling because he is losing credibility and Romney looks competent and smart. I doubt many voters will switch back from Romney to Obama, when they don’t trust the guy and his new “promise” doesn’t affect their pocketbook.
I made this comment over in Bridget’s thread in the PJTattler…
Much like the Korean Peace Talks at Panmunjom, There will be much discussion over who has the higher chair and which end of the table should be considered the head. The Iranians will continue spouting their bull about peaceful uses and the American delegation will eat it all up. Nothing will be decided, Iran will walk away and we will cry something along the lines of harsher sanctions. Nothing at all will come from these talks.
That’s what I thought. What’s the “surprise”? America drags back to the “negotiating” table (more like an operating table) for another round of nothing?
Even in the .000001% possibility that the Iranians are going to the table, and going in good faith, what part of the electorate is this supposed to impress? It’s supposed to outweigh four dead Americans in Benghazi?
So, they’ve agreed to….talk.
Not halve their weaponry, not stop supporting Hamas immediately, not give us barrels of crude for $4 per. Just…..talk.
Pardon me whilst I contain my excitement.
There. Mission accomplished.
NOT saving your job, Barry. Tell Tehran-born Valerie to go back where she came from.
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The pathetic thing about this is that everyone with an ounce of brain can see that this is exactly buying time for Iran and an election gimmick for Obama. The only people fooled will be (apparently) the president and the folks who buy the media spin. I don’t include the media within that list because I’m just cynical and skeptical enough to think they can see what this is and are fully willing to trade international security for electing their candidate.
The consequences are phenomenally huge; 1931 huge. Allowing Iran to develop the bomb (while pretending that’s not what they’re doing) will place Israel immediately in danger and any western country in longer-term danger as nuclear weapons inevitably fall into terrorist hands. Obama, will go down in history in the same breath as Neville Chamberlain; poetic justice, but not at all satisfying to those of us who’ll have to live in the world he creates by his self-serving and ignorance, especially those who die to restore some semblance of order to the remains of the world.
This won’t sway any undecided voters. The ones who care about this issue enough to think that starting talks with Iran is significant have already made up their minds. Nations talk, talk, talk, talk endlessly.
Now, if we were to drop a bomb somewhere, that would be an October surprise. But talking- naw.
All that is necesary for the con to work is for some American voters to believe that Iran will negotiate in good faith and that the Fraud will negotiate a winning proposition.
So I think Honey Boo Boo is a good candidate to fall for this, or any liberal.
Honey Boo Boo is already voting for the Fraud multiple times as are all liberals.
I see no net gain for the Fraud.
Negotiations with Iran, if they happen, would be just another delaying tactic by that country until it has nukes. Talk and sternly worded letters are a waste of time and in the end will only aid the Iranian Islamists.
I have a scoop on Obama’s debate strategy. He plans to use GERM WARFARE. Specifically, he’ll call for Global Empathy for Rioting Muslims and argue that Women Are Really Faking Any Romney Enthusiasm. Take it to the bank, folks.
Hopefully, nobody cares any more what these liars and weirdos (democrats aka: marxists, communists, islamists-mooslims, socialists, progressives…whatever) think…hopefully.
Yeah, Chris “Tingle” Matthews and the rest of MSNBC, spin that “temporary” (until Nov 7) halt to the Iranian nuclear program, why don’t ya!
One-on-one negotiations between the US and Iran give Iran higher status,
but not as high as Iran will gain by demonstrating that it has nuclear
weapons; It is an unwritten law of world realpolitik that a regime with nuclear weapons may be opposed by force abroad, but not at home.
Given a secure base of operations at home, Iran can expand its influence across the Middle East, safe from intervention by the US military machine which is _not_ going to fight any more bloody, expensive wars in the area …except, except that the US will soon be able to send in the machines,
and keep the military safe at home.
I halfway expect Obama to announce that he’s bringing us “peace in our time”.
The grand plan is for General dempsey, our anti-Israel activist who is chief of staph, to sign a nonaggression pact with Iran, based upon the Soviet-German nonaggression pact with Iran. Israel is expected to play the role of Poland
I wonder how much the true hardcore leftists like soros, ayers, various communists, and other of the nastier radicals backing Obama would actually be bothered by a terrorist atomic bomb going off in a US city. If the goal is to cement the transition of the US into a totalitarian state there would be no better way. We saw how eagerly Americans have given up various freedoms in response to 9/11. 9/11 killed 3,000 people, about 40,000 die in auto accidents every year in the US, so 9/11 basically caused the same number of fatalities as a typical month of US driving, but it got blown all out of proportion to get us to submit to warrantless wiretaps, strip searches at airports, indefinite detention etc. A real major calamity like a nuclear attack taking out a city would usher in a totalitarian government that would get away with ignoring every constitutional restraint on government in the name of safety, I have no doubt of that. For those who wish to control every aspect of our lives it would represent a golden opportunity. “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
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Obama ‘s policy is to empower the radical muslims wether they are sunnis ( Egypt-Libya are Muslim Brotherhood coup d’ Etat engineered with Obama’s help ) or shiites ( Iranian theocracy was really satisfied at the way Obama ignored the opposition green movement request for US help ) .And the cherry on the pie of Obama’s empowerment of muslim radicals is the nuclear toy in iran ‘s arsenal.Obama is a radical marxist mole and he sees the muslim radicals as helpful forces in his fight to to bring th demise of the western world.Romney should have been much tougher on Obama and he should have stated clearly that Obama’s mideast policy is either the work of a lunatic-naive-unskilled amateur or it is a clearly orchestrated empowerment of the radicals; Of these two tales only one is true and since Obama is not that lunatic it is clearly a well conceived plan to set the mideast on flames and to redirect the flames at israel, then at Europe.The catastrophe coming from Obama’s policy will completely upset the balance of power in the world and the northern western liberals democracies will have to dance to the tune sanged by Teheran mullah’s and their nuclear drumbeat.