The Top Ten Most Gerrymandered Congressional Districts in the United States
(In the first half of this essay, Gerrymandering 101, I explained how gerrymandering works and why it’s so ubiquitous. Here in the exciting conclusion I name and shame the ten most gerrymandered districts of the current 111th Congress — plus 20 bizarre bonus districts not mentioned in the title.)
(10.) North Carolina-12

This is what most people imagine when they think of a gerrymandered district — what I call “Gerrymander Classic.” NC-12 looks very much like the gerrymandered districts of the 19th century, but taken to extremes. As bad as it is, NC-12 at least looks like a congressional district, with meandering lines, consistent width, and hand-drawn appearance. As we’ll soon see, modern gerrymandering is often another animal altogether, with jarring shapes and artificial boundaries that are not just offensive to the eye but somehow feel like an insult to rationality.
(9.) Florida-20

This is what gerrymandering looks like in the modern era: ugly. Gone are any attempts at aesthetics. In the old days, redistricters at least tried to disguise their gerrymandering by drawing district lines that looked almost kinda sorta reasonable. No more. Nowadays many districts, with FL-20 being a good example, seem to be the result of computer algorithms with no regard whatsoever for human or natural boundaries. Needless to say, all sense of “community” within a congressional is out the window altogether when it is shaped like this, with jagged tendrils reaching out every which way to gobble up the desired demographic.
(8.) Pennsylvania-12

PA-12 is a rare example of “packing” (jamming as many opposition voters as possible into one district) that backfired. This district was created to be a Democratic stronghold formerly held by Congressman Jack Murtha, who was assumed to have a lock on the district. At the last redistricting in 2000, the Republicans in charge gave up on the area, which is solidly unionized, and decided to “pack” Murtha’s new district with as many Democrats as possible, to allow the remaining districts in the region a chance to have slim Republican majorities. But in the intervening ten years everything has changed: the area grew more and more conservative, and the locally popular Murtha died, opening up the seat to possible challengers. In the 2010 election, PA-12 barely remained Democratic with Mark Critz winning by a hairsbreadth 50.8%-49.2% margin — while most of the surrounding districts overwhelmingly went Republican. Thus, if the foolish 2000 Republican redistricters had not consciously set out to create a “packed” Democratic district, and had instead just drawn the boundaries at random, they could have easily won all the races in the area, instead of losing this one (and the adjacent PA-4) by the slimmest of margins. Note to gerrymanderers: THINGS CHANGE. What may appear to be a wise gerrymander maneuver today may blow up in your face sometime in the future.
(7.) North Carolina-6

I have included NC-6 as a perfect example of “inverse gerrymandering,” a district that is partly hollowed out internally by a different gerrymandered district — in this case, the northern end of NC-12, our first example above. NC-6 is a stark reminder that no gerrymander is freestanding: all congressional districts are interlocked like jigsaw puzzle pieces, and every time you enclose any area by some outrageous boundary line, you are disincluding that same area from some surrounding district. So for every gerrymander you create, you are likely to also have a less-noticeable but just as offensive inverse gerrymander next door.
(6.) Florida-3

Florida has more than its fair share of gerrymandering nightmares. But while many of the state’s districts were admittedly drawn to favor Republican candidates, FL-3 is instead a federally mandated “minority-majority” district gerrymandered to give black voters a voice:
[FL-3] was drawn in 1992 to be North Florida’s black-majority seat and Democrats were shifted from the surrounding districts to make the surrounding districts more Republican. It currently stretches from Jacksonville’s downtown in the north to Orlando’s in the south, and stretches east and west to include other largely minority and Democratic areas such as Gainesville, Sanford and Eatonville. As a result of this gerrymandering, the district is strongly Democratic with a Cook Partisan Voting Index of D +18 and gave Obama 73% of its vote in the 2008 election. It is 50.9% black and 35.4% white. … The 3rd District is at the center of the debate over the potential impact of the FairDistricts initiative. Due to its shape, the 3rd is one of several districts that violate restrictions in the initiative which require compact districts that conform to geographical and political boundaries. On the other hand, the 3rd District is protected by the Voting Rights Act and a non-compact shape may be necessary to ensure it remains an effective African-American seat.
The “FairDistricts Initiative,” ballot proposals designed to finally make Florida’s redistricting theoretically nonpartisan, was finally approved by voters this year on November 2 — but was immediately challenged in court not by the Republicans as you might imagine but by none other than Corrine Brown, the representative of FL-3! Why? Because the new law stipulates that districts be geographically compact, which would eliminate her voting bloc and most likely her seat in Congress, when FL-3 is totally reconfigured next year. Which is ironic, because Republicans also view the new law with disdain, seeing it as a plot to swing the redistricting advantage back to the Democrats. Sigh. Can’t we all just get along? (Answer: NO!)
(5.) Illinois-17

Political scientists love to cite IL-17 as the prototypical gerrymandered district, and you are likely to see IL-17 used as the illustration in many academic treatises about redistricting. And we can see why here. Its shape has often been described as “a rabbit on a skateboard,” though to me it looks more like an embryonic ichneumon wasp with a pancreatic cyst. We saw above how PA-12 was a gerrymandering blunder by the Republicans; IL-17 is the opposite, a gerrymandered district created by Democrats to ensure themselves a seat in western Illinois — but which this year was snatched from their grasp by Tea Party candidate and now congressman-elect Bobby Schilling. Ooops! The Democrats went out on a limb when drawing IL-17 — several limbs, by the looks of it — but the wave election of 2010 changed the electoral landscape. Let me repeat my warning to over-confident redistricters next year: THINGS CHANGE. Gerrymander at your own risk.
(4.) Florida-22

Florida-22 isn’t a congressional district: it’s series of random lines generated by a malfunctioning dot-matrix printer. What else could explain the sheer purposelessness of the innumerable jagged ins and outs of a district so thin that in a few places you could run across it in under a minute? All of this to achieve — what? A district that is almost perfectly balanced between Democrats and Republicans. Couldn’t the same result have been effected a little more simply, perhaps by circling some random part of a Florida map with a felt pen? But all is forgiven, Florida-22, because on November 2 you elected as your representative Allen West MFC (My Favorite Congressman), quite obviously the next President of the United States.
(3.) Arizona-2

Arizona’s second district is the one most likely to make people burst out laughing. I mean, c’mon. And the explanation for this atrocity only makes it seem worse:
The odd shape of the district is indicative of the use of gerrymandering in its construction. The unusual division was not, however, drawn to favor politicians. Owing to historic tensions between the Hopi and the Navajo Native American tribes and since tribal boundary disputes are a federal matter, it was thought inappropriate that both tribes should be represented in the U.S. House of Representatives by the same member. Since the Hopi reservation is completely surrounded by the Navajo reservation, and in order to comply with current Arizona redistricting laws, some means of connection was required that avoided including large portions of Navajo land, hence the narrow riverine connection.
So, the district was drawn this way so that Hopis and Navajos don’t give each other “electoral cooties” by having to vote for the same congressman? What — is America now a 3rd-grade playground? Imagine how Republicans in Nancy Pelosi’s district feel, or Democrats in rural Texas. All across America people have to line up at polling places alongside people whom they despise. Get over it.
(2.) Maryland-3

Maryland-3 is the poster child for the lunacy that is gerrymandering. And the funniest part? The Democratic politicians who created it deny that it’s gerrymandered at all:
The new district was concocted after the 2000 Census when Maryland, like all states, drew up new congressional and state legislative district boundaries to reflect changes in the population.
Former Secretary of State John T. Willis, who was in charge of the redistricting as chairman of the Governor’s Redistricting Advisory Committee, said the committee did not mean for the 3rd District to look like it does. That’s just how the numbers worked out, he said.
“It’s a very complex situation, and population is the No. 1 driving characteristic,” Willis said.
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The final plan, Willis noted proudly, created eight congressional districts that had almost exactly the same number of people in them.
“All of our congressional districts don’t deviate by more than one person,” he said.
But Rascovar said that no matter how the committee “painted it”, the new boundaries were drawn to favor Democratic candidates in the 2nd District.
“They needed ‘x’ number of votes . . . what you end up doing is juggling these neighborhood votes, and it becomes absurd,” Rascovar said.
“The most absurd is that the politicians drawing up these districts are no longer concerned with the neighborhoods,” he said. “All they care is, ‘How many loyal Democrats can I get in this district?’ ”
Willis disagreed. Although the interests of incumbent representatives were taken into consideration, he said, no single district was favored.
We didn’t draw the district that way on purpose. It was an accident! Honest!
(1.) Illinois-4

Here it is: The most ridiculous congressional district in the entire country. No, you’re not looking at two districts; IL-4 has two absurdly gerrymandered halves held together by a thin strip of land at its western edge that is nothing more than the median strip along Interstate Highway 294. The end result is a gerrymandered gerrymander, a complete mockery of what congressional representation is even supposed to be. As with AZ-2, the intention behind IL-4 was to create an ethnic enclave, in this case an Hispanic-majority district within an otherwise overwhelmingly non-Hispanic Chicago. Problem is, Chicago has two completely distinct and geographically separate Hispanic neighborhoods — one Puerto Rican, the other Mexican — but neither is large enough to constitute a district majority on its own. Solution? Lump all Hispanics together into a supposedly coherent cultural grouping, and then carefully draw a line surrounding every single Hispanic household in Chicago, linking the two distant neighborhoods by means of an uninhabited highway margin. Voila! One Hispanic congressperson, by design. And as a side-effect, the most preposterous congressional district in the United States.
But wait — our gerrymander tour isn’t over. If you think those ten were bad, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. While they may have indeed been the ten most gerrymandered districts in the nation, at least they shared something admirable in common: They were legal. The same cannot be said about our next ten districts, which may not be as crazily shaped as the ones above, but which are in one crucial aspect far worse: they’re noncontiguous.
The whole reason gerrymandering even exists as a practice in the first place is to overcome the requirement that each congressional district be contiguous — in other words, a unified single enclosed area, however strangely shaped it may be. This self-evident need to create contiguous districts is the whole reason why gerrymandered district boundaries wander all over the landscape, so as to enclose certain sought-after voters while still keeping them geographically connected to the rest of the district. Without the requirement to have each district be contiguous, politicians could easily have created a new level of fantasmagorial gerrymandering in which demographic groupings are enclosed without any regard to where they might be located on a map, forging “districts” out of disconnected topological islands.
Thank heavens that can never happen, right? Right?
Wrong.
The politicians in charge of redistricting are so brazen in some states that they seem to have gotten drunk on gerrymander wine, tossing caution to the wind and cavalierly creating noncontiguous congressional districts with portions completely cut off from the rest of the voters. How in the world they got away with this, I have no idea — apparently, if you have the hubris to create gerrymandered districts in the first place, it’s not so big a step to cross the invisible boundary between unethical and illegal.
That said, I am unaware of any federal law stipulating that districts be contiguous; it seems to be legislated on a state-by-state basis. And it could very well be that certain states intentionally fail to pass or enforce such a law, if it serves a political purpose to violate it. After all, who’s going to prosecute the redistricters? Themselves?
If this trend continues, perhaps the time has come to enact nationwide guidelines expressly prohibiting noncontiguous congressional districts. Until that time, we’ll have…






Having lived in the Socialist Republik of Maryland growing up there I can tell you that nothing stops the Demoncratic machine. A Conservative Republican in the 3rd district has a greater chance of dancing on the head of a pin.
Democrat-Vote early, vote often, vote dead.
I second that. But its nice to know you live in #2 of something!
I will also second that as a consituent of the Maryland 3rd district. It is as absurd as it seems from the map. When you call the annointed leaders district headquarters, a man by the name of Congressman John Sarbannes Jr., a direct descendent of his father the Democratic Senator His Majesty John Sarbannes Sr(now retired)they shake you down to make sure you actually live in the district. If you look closely at the neighborhood distributions in the northern parts of Baltimore you will see why. They effectively sepparated the white northern parts of Baltimore City and merged them with the white suburbs to create an almost totally black district in Baltimore City, home of the local Maryland vote swinging Acorn driven magic voting tallies. For those readers who have never lived in or near a Democratic Inner City machine this is how the Democrats win state wide elections. Once the number of real votes needed to win a state wide election are determined the “voting machines” in Baltimore City will miraculously produce just a bit more than that vote from those dedicated inner city districts that seem to always vote whatever number of votes are needed.
Yes, I too was once a fellow Marylander, actually a Baltimoron,for the first 25 years of my life. Thank the Lord I didn’t like politics much. I don’t miss one of the most Democratic states in the Union, with if I remember correctly the highest auto insurance rates in the world, I think.
Anyway I landed in one of the greatest places to live in the US, Concord, NC. Concord is in Cabarrus county which is made up of mostly the 8th district except for a teeny, tiny little sliver in the upper northwest corner which just happens to fall in the 12th district. So I guess you can all figure out where I live? I sure hope the state republican majority fixes the problem this time around so I can vote with the rest of the people where I live.
I met with Sarbanes once, he changed the subject immediately from what he could do for us to what we could do for him. Then he ended the conversation. Heckuva guy.
Meanwhile in Maryland Democratic Looney Bin #1, Prince Georges County,
Jack Johnson (D. Maryland) was hauled off to jail by the FBI last night for
taking bribes. When the FBI knocked on the door his wife phoned
him and asked what she should do with the $80,000 cash lying around
the house. “Quick..put it in your underwear” was the reply.
“I put it in my bra!” was her reply. Forget about Democrats moving lines
around on a map I want to know..how do you put $80,000 in
a bra?
Eight 10K notes would work.
This needs to be addressed at the Federal level. Michigan is a Democratic state (by 300,000 votes) but cannot get any Democrats in Lansing because of gerrymandering. This should not be allowed for either party.
sadly that Rock Island, IL district will not be fixed since the democrats retained control of the IL legislature and the R candidate for Gov lost due to our very own Cook County – home of Chicago and the Daley/Obama machine.
Check out the “Ribbon of Shame” – Lois Capps’ district, only 300 ft wide in places.
As a constituent of Ms. Capps’, I heartily second your sentiments. Lois has the brain of a nematode, but still manages to get re-elected here in SB.
CA-23 does make you kind of want to root for global warming, though…
Gratuitous snide aside, keep your wishes that my home, and those of my family and friends be inundated and ruined, to yourself.
Ummm, RKV; it’s a message board, and snark rules the day. Lighten the fuck up and perhaps follow your own rule and keep it to yourself. Christ, you sound like an oversensitive maggot lib.
Fine, earthquake then.
Gee, GA-13 didn’t even get an Honorable Mention? What ticks me off about GA-13 is then when the last re-jigger moved me INTO it, they also slid David Scott OUT of it. (But he still got to run!)
Regarding the AZ-2, the Arizona 5th District did similar contortions prior to 2000. It went from the East Valley, along the Beeline Highway (AZ 87) up into the northeast corner of the state. It was reduced and added Tempe (ASU university) and “helped” former Tempe mayor, perpetual screwup Harry Mitchel, beat J.D. Hayworth by 700 votes.
Have you seen the ridiculous statue the leftards created for him on Mill Avenue?
Mitchell is a textbook case of the leftist bait-and switch strategy. This isn’t surprising since they see elections not as the process by which the people choose the nature of their government, but as an obstacle they have to overcome in their quest to become tyrants.
Out here in California, as the writer noted, our politics are notoriously corrupt. They’re also notoriously liberal, so other than segregating Orange County and making sure that rural voters in the outlying districts have as little voice as possible. This means that there’s no gerrymandering or redistricting shennanigans in California, right? Well, not so much.
In 1990, the state gained 2-3 seats in Congress, so new districts had to be created. You’d think that this would mean that all the sitting Congressmen would get to keep their seats, with the new guys scrunching in between them, but you’d be wrong. One district just *had* to be done away with, according to Democratic lawmakers. It was inconveniently placed, and things were better organized with it gone. It just happened to be represented by Bob Dornan, good ol’ “B-1 Bob”, who regularly rolled his congressional office chair over the tails of the Dem pussycats in Hollywood (the district was part of the San Fernando Valley, right next to the studios). So Bob lost his district, and went to Orange County, winning there and representing that district until he made the crucial mistake of failing to court illegal aliens, losing that critical block of voters (and the seat) to a Democratic (and Hispanic) opponent.
Then the state had a referendum proposing a “redistricting commission” to redraw the state’s lines, rather than allowing the state’s legislature to do it. Though it failed by a small margin, the state’s Democratic lawmakers were somewhat gunshy afterwards. When redistricting happened in 2000, they made a deal with Republicans. We’re going to kill one of your districts, they said, but you guys get to pick which one goes this time. The Republicans agreed because they could protect their more conservative, ideological membership, and offer up a sacrificial lamb (also known as a moderate) to the Democrats, and they did.
So the state’s voters got disgusted with the process again, and this time the redistricting commission referendum passed. When they redistrict the state, we’ll see what will happen…there will no doubt be court challenges, because these people need to maintain their power somehow, and this is one of the more subtle ways to do it.
Yes and because of this I’m stuck with Susan Davis (D) as my House Representative CA-53 for two more years.
There are three Democratic strongholds in Maryland: Montgomery County, Prince George’s County, and Baltimore City. Thanks to their urban nature, they have enough votes in those three counties that it pretty much drives the rest of the state’s politics.
Only once in recent memory has there been a Republican governor in Maryland, and that was when Ms. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend ran for governor. Even staunch Democrat Party Hacks had to admit that she lacked the mental fortitude to handle the job. Few could hold their noses long enough to vote for her. The Republican candidate won for just that one term.
Then it was business as usual. The districts have been gerrymandered over the years to help ensure that Maryland stays a Blue State. That’s why it looks so strange. Maryland has been run by one party for so many decades that the only politics it has are Left and Center-Left. The only thing saving the state from the fate that other blue states are going through is it’s proximity to DC. Federal Jobs and Federal Consulting gigs are big business in Maryland.
Actually, Robert Ehrlich (R) was governor from 2003 to 2007. He was followed by the current governor, Martin O’Malley (D).
Wow, my buddy lives in one of those and my brother in the other. (Quincy, IL and Kingman, AZ) Never realized AZ had that kind of gerrymandering going on.
Though I have to wonder why CA didn’t get more time what with how loudly we complain about gerrymandering around here. We even finally passed a prop about it! Then again you’re right about it not being that big a mess on the map.
So NC-2 doesn’t even get an honorable mention?
I didn’t want to go overboard with every single district in North Carolina — nor in Florida, Maryland, Pennsylvania… . Truth is, most of the districts in all those states are pretty shocking, but I had to choose just a few representative ones to avoid repetition, since within a state the districts often share a boundary. Since I already have NC-1 and NC-3, then NC-2 would be overdoing it. But yes, as a shout-out: NC-2 is pretty bad too!
If you have NC 2, you have to throw in 13 and 4. Hopefully that will all change soon.
The Dims have owned NC lock, stock, and barrel since Reconstruction. We finally have a Republican-majority legislature, so maybe some of the asininity will start to change. Now if we can just sweep that moron out of the Governor’s Mansion…
From your lips to legislative reality!
I’d love to see that nasty witch Debbie Wasserman Schultz reverse gerrymandered out of a job in Florida 20. She can join Alan Grayson at the monthly tinfoil hat wingnut meetings
Well, Grayson has a lot of time on his hands these days, as he was booted from office by a substantial margin.
Unless you can find a moderate jewish republican to run against her, gerrymandering is going to be the only way to get her out of there. I think that even this year she pulled in 60% and that was “close” for this district.
There is absolutely nothing ILLEGAL about non-contiguous districts unless an individual state has such a law. The Supreme Court ruled on Pennsylvania and Texas after the 2000 redistricting – and those two decisions means ANYTHING goes at the state level.
NYC is still very tribal in it’s social geography. Since the Constitution is very clear that districting is up to the states, there is no need for contiguity or compactness to be applied, and that will not change.
Part of what you are seeing in NY8 is keeping it very liberal while splitting some conservative neighborhoods in Brooklyn between CDs. Borough Park is split between three different CDs, including NY8.
NY12 is an attempt to pack Hispanics into a CD where it is hard to do that, unlike the Bronx, which is far more Hispanic. Lots of public housing in that Manhattan bit of NY12, but the Queens neighborhoods trend to South American Hispanics.
I sometimes think New York starts with Harlem, and work from there.
You told me yesterday that IL-4 would be in the top 10 but I had no idea that the democrats in Springfield & Cook County would be blatant & corrupt enough to garner the #1 spot. As a former Chicagoan I should have had more confidence in the machine.
Possibly the worst example I’ve heard concerns a state senator here in Delaware who lives on a suburban cul-de-sac. The district line runs up the middle of the street into the cul-de-sac, circles around her house, then runs back down the middle of the street. Hers is the only house in her neighborhood that is in her district. It is not clear whether the lines were drawn this way so that she could keep her job without moving her residence, or so that none of her neighbors could vote for her; not that it matters.
I share your contempt for gerrymandering, but I think you are mistaken in your list of non-contiguous districts. You have to allow district boundaries to cross water, or else how could an island be included in any district at all? Your maps don’t show boundary lines over water, but such could be drawn in every case that you cite. As long as the lines don’t intersect the boundary of any other district, I think it has to be allowed, subject to criticism no more and no less than other gerrymandering contortions. I’m not a lawyer, but I’ll bet those districts don’t violate the letter of the law.
I think an exception can be made for islands, one has to be made in some cases, as you said, but some objective rules could minimize the abuse. For instance, if an island is to be included in a mainland congressional district, the island must be joined by a road or a currently utilized ferry line. In all other cases, a district that is “connected” only by a highway should be considered a non-contiguous district and prohibited. In fact, I’d go so far as to institute a width requirement (ie: no district may be less than, say, 1000 feet in length at any one point)
Thanks for pointing that out. That’s why IMO FL-18 shouldn’t be on the list. Heck, any district that includes the Keys must by definition be non-contiguous, given that the only thing connecting them is US 1, a.k.a. the “Overseas Highway.” For that matter, the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway cuts along nearly the entire Florida east coast, leaving a narrow strip of land a mile or so wide connected to the mainland only by various bridges.
I don’t think Zombie’s problem with FL-18 was with the string along the Keys to Key West — which, as you point out, must by definition be separated by water — but with the various tiny enclaves along the north side of Florida Bay that are separated from one another by land. Since these enclaves appear to be along the edge of Everglades National Park, the district may pick up all of the inhabitants of the north shore of the Bay (who have to be put somewhere, even if they’re separated by water from most of the district into which they’re put), but you wonder why the map would have been drawn in such a way as to make the district look so bad. After all, it would have been easy enough to include all of the Park — uninhabited as well as inhabited portions — in FL-18, and the map would have appeared much tidier.
Of course, the Supreme Court’s insistence on all districts having as close as is humanly possible to the same number of people gives gerrymanderers a perfect excuse to ignore traditional governmental units and communities of interest, and instead to draw these incredibly convoluted districts for their own political motives. Rules requiring contiguity and respect for political and community-of-interest lines are great, but they can go only so far as long as the courts require absolutely equal districts and districts that maximize the possibility of “minorities” to elect one of their own to Congress. A lot of the districts on Zombie’s list can be attributed to racial or ethnic “packing” that courts have said is mandatory under the Voting Rights Act.
Don’t let California fool you – take another look at CA-51, hidden down there at the bottom of the state. Shapewise, it’s not too insane, until you realize the scope of it. That little pseudopod along the border extends well over 100 miles to capture a little piece of San Diego’s suburbs. CA-51 is solidly, solidly Republican. The bulk of it is Imperial County, about as conservative a county as California has. Presumably whoever was doing the redistricting (likely Democrats) decided to use this district to help carve out more Democrat districts in San Diego.
I suppose the “justification” is that they’re all border communities, but anyone who’s driven along that stretch (as I have, many many many times) knows that there’s a massive difference between just the surburbs and the mountains, let alone the heavily agricultural areas of the Imperial Valley.
California district 51 is Democrat Bob Filner’s district and, I’m sorry to say, is solidly Democratic. Yes, it includes Imperial County but most of the voters are in southern San Diego County (Chula Vista, Imperial Beach) which are solidly Democratic.
Don’t get me wrong, I would love to find a way to evict that butthole Filner but even with our own redistricting next year, it’ll never happen unless he has “sex with a dead girl or a live boy” to quote Edwin Edwards, the corrupt Governor of Louisiana.
There are times when I am so ashamed of my country that I don’t even want to live their anymore. Better to live somewhere I have no expectations – at least I won’t be disheartened. On top of all this, Obama and the Dems want to intellectually gerrymander the illegal alien vote by continuing to ensure they pour in. Screw these people.
I am wondering now that amendments 5 and 6 passed here in Florida how that will help (or hurt)
Well I voted against the redistricting amendment, but I’ll vote against amendments and new laws most of the time as a message to our betters to try enforcing the old ones before you start writing new ones and an underlying message saying “leave us alone, dammit!”. What kills me is that the amendment was started and championed by liberal groups and the person most likely to get hurt, and is quite shaken up about it, is North Florida’s liberal queen, Corrine Brown. I have to admit though, it’s fun to hear her say, “I’ll call the po-po!” It’s always fun to watch someone you don’t much care for make themselves look and sound like an idiot. And Corrine never disappoints.
Question for Zombie. Do the states then use those same congressional district lines to determine their state legislature district’s boundaries? If so, there must be some lollapalooza assembly and state senate mini-districts out there, too.
Oh dear me no, most (if not all) states have completely different redistricting lines for state legislature offices. And yes, those are often just as badly gerrymandered, or worse. I didn’t get into that aspect because it’s a whole nother can of worms. It is in fact these state-office gerrymandered districts that are the source of the problem, because the politicians doing the gerrymandering of the congressional districts are themselves elected according to the different state-office district boundaries! So when they go a-gerrymandering, they not only gerrymander the U.S. House of Representatives, they also gerrymander their own districts to ensure re-election.
Ain’t life grand?
“…in this case an Hispanic-majority district within an otherwise overwhelmingly non-Hispanic Chicago.”
That’s somewhat misleading-Chicago is the #2 Mexican city in the US after LA and #2 Puerto Rican city after NYC. Lots of Hispanics in Cook County live outside the boundaries of IL-4.
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/rough/2006/10/chicago_little.html
Zombie missed half the story on IL-04. I lived in the district that IL-04 almost completely surrounds for twenty years. That earmuff shape wasn’t needed to unite Mexicans and Puerto Ricans neighborhoos as that could have easily been done via a barbell shape connected by a four mile corridor across the near west side side of Chicago drawn somewhere between Ashland and Western Avenues. That odd shape was needed to keep Chicago’s west side blacks separate from Chicago’s south side blacks.
The original proposal for a Hispanic majority district called for a fairly compact district. That would have meant bisecting then incumbent Congresswoman Cardiss Collins’s black majority district, a bowling alley shape that ran from the affuent downtown lakefront straight west through some of the most blighted areas in Chicago and then into the near west suburbs. To make up the numbers Collins was to be given some black majority precincts on the south side and the south side black congressman would pick up some white majority precincts in the south loop area. Collins protested because she feared that those south side precincts might be home to a potential primary challenger. At the time there was considerable conflict between political factions on the south and west sides. Collins insisted that her west side district be kept almost intact, and it was.
For a NC mountain girl, you know a lot about the nuts and bolts of Chicago neighborhood demographics and politics (20 years in the neighborhood notwithstanding). Maybe the explanation is that you’re not originally from the mountains; maybe you’re a Gen X stoner/slacker who got pushed out of Wicker Park/Bucktown when the area gentrified, and who relocated to the Blue Ridge stoner/slacker paradise up in Brevard (before it gentrified).
Whatever the case, your points are right on. Historically, there were always tremendous differences and rivalries between Chicago’s West Side black community and its (larger and more politically connected) South Side black community. As a state senator from the South Side, Barack Obama didn’t punch West Side state senator Ricky “Hollywood” Hendon in the face on the senate floor for nothing. There was a lot of West Side vs. South Side context behind that incident.
More to the point though, IL-4 is easily the most ridiculous district in America. As Zombie notes, the Northwest Side Puerto Rican community and the burgeoning Southwest Side Mexican community are, themselves, quite different culturally. But it’s quite a stretch to say that Chicago is overwhelmingly non-Hispanic. Chicago is about 35% Hispanic. And that percentage is growing, largely due to an influx of Mexicans on the Southwest Side. At some point in the not too distant future, it’s likely that the Mexican community will be large enough, and politically powerful enough to warrant a Mexican-only congressional district in Chicago (actually, it probably already is).
But that probably won’t happen anytime soon, even though demographics are shifting at a rapid pace.
White hipster gentrification continues to drive Puerto Ricans further away from their remaining Humboldt Park and Logan Square enclaves. Puerto Ricans keep being pushed further to the north and to the west. These days, if you take Grand Ave. west from Ashland, Puerto Rican neighborhoods and businesses are prevalent all the way out until you hit the wise guy enclave at Harlem Ave (the northwest city limits). There are some small Cuban pockets on the Northwest Side too, but they’re largely engulfed by the Puerto Rican areas. Most of the areas of recent Puerto Rican dispersal are in IL-5, represented by Mike Quigley (formerly represented by Rahm Emanuel, Rod Blagojevich and Dan Rostenkowski).
Will demographic changes cause further creative redistricting? There’s probably adequate ground for doing so, but such a move is highly unlikely because the Machine won’t do anything that could hurt Luis Gutierrez (the Congressman who represents the 4th District), or hurt a South Side black Congressman. The creation of a Mexican-dominated district would probably spell doom for one or the other. And since Illinois is set to lose a Congressional seat, there won’t be much leeway when the new districting is done. Nominal Republican Mark Kirk may have (barely) won Barack Obama’s old U.S. Senate seat, but Democrats still dominate the Illinois state house. They’ll be in charge of redistricting. So it’s a sure bet that redistricting will ensure that the Congressional downsizing costs a Republican his or her seat.
Luis Gutierrez will be safe; downstate Republicans like John Shimkus or Tim Johnson (maybe even newly-elected rising star Adam Kinzinger in the gerrymandered South Suburban & downstate IL-11) probably won’t be.
I’m betting Tom Ewing takes the shank. Shimkus gets the areas south of Charleston. JJ and Bobby Rush need to follow their old voters into Adam Kinzinger’s and Judy Biggert’s districts. The Dems will force Kinzinger south to Champaign-Urbana, the thinking being its best to relegate a rising star to areas far outside the Chicago media market. Jerry Costello will borrow the arms of the 17th for the next ten years. I actually wanted Dan Seals (a 1/2 black man) to win Kirk’s old seat so that he could take some of the west side black areas, and combine them with Waukegan, evanston, and Rogers Park and force a Davis-Rush battle for one of the South Side seats.
Me, I’d also have Luis G retire (bitter), and have him agree to have the north have split into whomever needed more population of Quigley, Schakowsky and/or Davis. Then let a SW side hispanic district emerge, and have Dan Lipinski get more mod RINO/blue dog territory in Will and south DuPage counties in return for ceding Berwyn, south Cicero and Chicago east of Midway airport. jUdy Biggert (D-13, Naperville) is viewed as a doddering old RINO, anyway.
The New York State Senate may have the remarkable gerrymandering history of any legislative body in the US:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/republicans-take-control-of-new-york-state-senate.php
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The Dems only just won control of the heavily GOP-gerrymandered chamber in 2008, after four decades in the minority. (The gerrymander is noted here only to point out what an accomplishment this was, not to make any moralistic point — it was after all made feasible because of cooperation with the permanent Democratic majority in the state Assembly, which also gerrymandered itself to greater and greater numbers over the years.)
The two defectors were Sens. Hiram Monserrate of Queens, and Pedro Espada of the Bronx.
After Election Day 2008, the chamber stood at 32 Democrats to 30 Republicans. But now that has been flipped around: 32 Republicans — or at least 32 members who organize for Republican leadership — to 30 Democrats.
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As a long time Bay Area resident I recall having the wonderful Barbara Boxer as my congressman during the 80′s. Her district(CA-7 I believe)consisted of Vallejo, Marin County, and South San Francisco. In this case of gerrymandering Vallejo and Marin County were connected by Hwy 37, which is a two lane road through tidal marshes in the north bay, but there was no attempt to link South SF. Even though I had just received the franchise(turned 18), I saw that this was a perfect example of gerrymandering and its sole purpose was to give an idiot(Boxer) a job. Currently CA-7 is two areas straddling the Carquinez Straits at the east end of the Bay. They are connected by two toll bridges and if I go to the southern area it costs $5 to get home.
The thing about NC-12 is that it used to be worse. When it was originally drawn up in the 90′s, it stretched all the way from Charlotte to Durham along I-85. It was the product of a collaboration between Republicans and African-American Democrats to “share the wealth” with respect to Congress.
Don’t expect NC-12 to change much in this redistricting, either. If anything, it may bleb out into NC-8 and NC-13 to make life harder for D-Kissell and D-Miller.
Exactly! NC-12 and NC-1 have one purpose and one purpose only – to assure the election of an African-American Democrat.
NC-12 aka Interstate 85, like Nom de Plume pointed out used to go from Durham to Charlotte by way of Greensboro. While Durham has been shifted out of the district, Greensboro and Charlotte are still connected. Having grown up in Greensboro, I can say that the interests of Charlotte and Greensboro rarely coincide and there isn’t too much love lost between the two.
I thought we’d get to North Carolina-3.
It’s confused me occasionally and I live here. I finally had to Google-map the focus in close enough to nearly see my own toadstools to be sure that I was voting in the right precinct; and that, yes, the person I wanted to vote for was indeed my Representative. Turns out the Gerry-beast had Meandered itself just one curvy street over.
Fortunately, the county sheriff’s race gets a whip and a chair, so I was able to vote for “the other guy” (and the other skin color), the incumbent having served long enough to build his own bunker, which is where corruption starts if it’s going to. Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves.
But all those non-contiguous areas are contiguous – water counts, you know. If you extend the lines just so, it all matches up. It’s perfect! If you didn’t ignore the water, it would all be just one solid blob (well, as solid as they get, anyhow). Not even the most craven, dishonest politician would do something so blatant and obvious – they might lose their job, and that would be the end of their world!
Also, the “water counts too” principle makes sense if you look at it from the other direction. It would be impossible to put islands, or a place like Key West, FL in *any* district if “land contiguity” was a requirement.
Obviously, the pros have gotten very adept at manipulating “river connections” to make their gerrymanders, but in principle, it’s not all that better or worse in kind than the first batch of districts listed.
What are the Hausdorff dimensions of the boundaries of these fractal districts?
I hate to say this especially since I know that Texas-14 was created by Texas Republicans as part of their ongoing campaign to knock off Ron Paul, but the district actually makes a lot of sense, except for Wharton and League City. League City (that part of Galveston County that isn’t in it) should be in the district, and Wharton should be in another district. But other than that it is one of the most coherent, culturally and geographicly, districts in this part of the state. Claiming something isn’t contiguous when it is connected by a bridge, or in the case of Bolivar Penisula, across a ferry crossing, is not gerrymandering if those places are part of the same cultural place. The portion of Texas down the coast from Galveston from Freeport to Port Lavaca, are much closer to Galveston culturally and geographically than they are to any other part of the state. And Bolivar Penisula is part of Galveston County. As to that part of Chambers county on the East side of the bay, that is just fishermen, so it is geographically part of the estuary.
I would not be surprised if the same wasn’t the case in coastal North Carolina.
I was also curious about this district. It was my understanding that not long ago, Lake Jackson itself, Congressman Paul’s home town, was not in his district, they were represented by Tom Delay and therefore lumped in with the southern Houston suburbs. That is why older signs in the district say Ron Paul – R – Surfside Beach, when referencing his office. You are 100% correct that coastal residents of Jackson (not technically coastal, but close enough), Calhoun, Matagorda, Brazoria, Galveston, and Chambers counties have more in common with each other than the surrounding areas that are eaten up by Houston’s urban sprawl. However, TX-14 extends all the way down to Victoria, and if you can make an argument for Wharton not being included in the district, then Victoria certiantly doesn’t fit.
If disctricts have to be physically touching, then does every island need its own representation? I think bridges, causeways, ferries, etc. should be included in this rule as ‘being able to walk across it with out crossing another district’ as is the case with TX-14 and I am sure some of the coastal NC districts.
Here I was, an unwilling constituent of Barney Frank, thinking our CD was strange but seeing what the really creative can do has opened my eyes. My late mother-in-law lived in FL 20. I think it was really designed for people who thought that they were still voting for FDR.
“a district that is partly hollowed out internally”
Can one hollow out anything externally?
Sorry…just couldn’t let that one go.
Seriously, though, regarding noncontiguous districts: how much water are they allowed to span? I mean, while they certainly appear noncontiguous,the “enclaves” can be connected over the bay/river/etc. To translate the concept to something people may be more familiar with, this is how the Northwest Angle is in Minnesota, how Michigan is one state, and how Port Roberts is in Washington. If HI-2 can span water to include islands, why can’t barrier islands qualify in other states?
I’m not defending gerrymandering by any stretch, I’m just questioning precisely how illegal the seemingly illegal districts really are.
What do we expect in a country where when 22.8% of the legal aged USA citizens vote it is considered an amazing turnout.We don’t teach the constitution in schools, yet the schools celebrate Mexican holidays etc. etc.etc..Wake up America the fall is coming lest we take the reigns back and correct course. Having said this God bless this beautiful nation and its people to see and choose the right path.
We don’t teach the constitution in schools? They do in my kids’ school. I was learning about Mexican holidays in Pennsylvania schools 40 years ago. Don’t try and blame lazy voters on multicuturalism.
Blame it on laziness and a political system that doesn’t offer much chance of real change. If your district is gerrymandered, it feels a bit hopeless. And if the information you get is FUD, it breeds cyncism. And last, people don’t vote because they are complacent. Despite all the ills of this country, most people muddle along, and figure the system isn’t THAT broken, so why bother to vote? Sad. But blaming Mexican holidays just feels lke you have a thing against Mexicans.
New Yrok 28, inner cities of Rochester and Buffalo connected by rural lake front
I have the same idea as David Barnett, ‘bodies of water’ can easily be used as the ‘excuse’ for all of the ‘illegal’ gerrymanders.
Methinks that you have never, ever been to south Florida. Or been hounded by environmentalists from south Florida. Or maybe took a quick peek at Google Maps?
Because if you ever HAD been, you would have heard of a little (and by little, I mean 2400 square miles) area called the Everglades National Park. Those aren’t high-dollar havens; one of those is the campgrounds, and is possibly where the guy who runs the campgrounds is registered instead of half-way down 1 on the ranger station on Key Largo. The others I’m thinking are just computer-algorithm glitches, because there’s just not a whole lot of anything there. And if you don’t believe me, well, that’s where Google’s satellite view might help you.
Nevertheless, it would be possible to put together a geographically coherent district in that area. The Florida Keys are in Monroe County, and so is a large piece of land on the mainland, which is not contiguous with the Keys. However, the mainland part of the county is mostly the Everglades and virtually uninhabited. Since all of Monroe County together has only enough population to make about an eighth of a congressional district, the two could plausibly be connected by enough of the southern part of Miami-Dade County to be geographically contiguous; the district would be dominated in population by Miami-Dade County, but it would include all of Monroe County, on the mainland and in the Keys.
I am saddened my district, SC-6 (Jim Clyburn), didn’t make the cut. Gerrymandered after the 1990 census to ensure a black-majority district, it follows I-95 from near the NC border almost to GA, picking up the black-majority counties lining the interstate, but also dives in and out to grab black neighborhoods in both the Columbia and Charleston areas.
My devout Republican spouse linked me to this article, knowing that as a centrist Democrat I oppose gerrymandering for any purpose by any party. I was impressed by the article’s relative evenhandedness. The author seems to realize that both Democrats and Republicans have gerrymandered the heck out of this country–and where I live, my fellow Democratic congresswoman for our highly gerrymandered district contributed $27K to the campaign to try to repeal the nonpartisan redistricting initiative that passed last year. Oh, and she also refused to explain to her constituents why she did so.
You Republicans should take note of this–if you’re willing to criticize members of your own party when they violate principles of good government we might actually get somewhere with our country.
Instead I observe that most of the comments seemed to be about “those bad, bad Democrats.” That’s ridiculous. Gerrymandering is first and foremost the chosen tool of incumbents of both parties, trying to make their seats so safe their re-election is guaranteed. So as long as you see gerrymandering as “something THEY do” we’ll never get rid of it.
I’d vote for a constitutional amendment mandating nonpartisan redistricting–along with outlawing counting anyone but American citizens in the census for purposes of redistricting, and banning birthright citizenship as well.
You probably think those last two items are things only Republicans want, since implementing them would on the whole help Republicans more than Democrats. But I’m for good, fair, honest, transparent government first and foremost.
I’d love if it the President would use his bully pulpit to try to start a movement to implement nonpartisan redistricting nationwide. Surely we can all agree that this would not grant partisan advantage to either party–but it WOULD put elections back in the hands of voters. Right now very, very few seats change parties in elections when you look at the aggregate figures over the last couple of decades. This lets the parties pick the congressmen instead of the people.
And I’d love it if both conservatives and liberals and centrists like me would all agree that we need nonpartisan redistricting. I’m sure the GIS (geographical information software) vendors could produce an algorithms that redistricted districts in a way that created the most compact possible boundaries, respected existing city/country divisions wherever possible, and had the same number of people in each district.
If you’ll propose this to your Republican legislators I’ll propose it to my Democratic ones.
This is one thing we should all agree on.
The real truth demonstrated here is that politicians are crooks. Thieves. Liars. And cheats. No matter how swell their smile while they are looking you straight in the eye.
“35. Ruler4You
The real truth demonstrated here is that politicians are crooks. Thieves. Liars. And cheats. No matter how swell their smile while they are looking you straight in the eye.”
I believe you are abosolutely correct. The only notable exception I can say with absolute certainty would be Congressman Dr. Ron Paul from the (south of) Houston district.
I was waiting to see Missouri’s 3rd Congressional District mentioned. Created originally as a “safe” district for former Democrat Congressman Dick Gephardt when he had Presidential aspirations, it’s now the refuge of Russ Carnahan, son of the late Governor and third generation Carnahan dynasty member.
I guess the 3rd missed the list because it doesn’t LOOK all that gerrymandered. Starting in St. Louis, where the vast majority of its members live, it wonders down the eastern side of the state along the Mississippi river for nearly 150 miles to south of Cape Girardeau. The city population completely overwhelms the lightly populated, essentially rural southern regions of the district.
MO-3rd should be in there but probably does not appear too obvious. It appears we will never get rid of Russ Carnahan like we could never get rid of Dick Gephardt (he lives in NC). Jean Carnahan won by the same # of votes that put Claire McCaskill into her Senate seat. If Roy Blunt hadn’t been so far ahead in the polls we would have Robin Carnahan for life also. Russ Carnahan who is dumb as a box of rocks spends much of his campaign magic visiting old folks homes. But the magic doesn’t end til that 100,000 votes magically appear just before the polls close. Truly amazing.
Regarding Massachusetts-4, Barney Frank commented on the district’s shape in his victory speech this year. He said that the district had originally been created in the 1960s to benefit Republican congressman Joseph Martin, so if the district was gerrymandered, it was the Republicans’ fault.
Frank did not explain, however, why the district was still designed that way after four more redistrictings, the most recent two of which took place when Massachusetts’ congressional delegation consisted entirely of Democrats.
(I should note that Frank’s opponent Sean Bielat had raised the issue of gerrymandering first. However, Bielat’s hometown of Brookline and Frank’s hometown of Newton are adjacent to each other in the Boston suburbs; it would be hard to draw a district in that area that wasn’t strongly Democratic.)
And the winner is…drum roll please….North Carolina, my home state. North Carolina who went for Obama in 2008, the home of some of the most liberal universities in the nation, even rivaling California and the Ivy League halls in the Northeast. We have UNC-Asheville, home of the most liberal of all liberal institutions in North Carolina. It outranks UNC-Chapel Hill and Duke, where accusations are gospel the truth is secondary.
The second runner-up, and this is a very important position, is … Yes, Florida. Applause, applause, applause.
Now, we are disappointed because one very important gerrymandered district was not mentioned and it is one of the best examples of gerrymandering in the country. For your consideration, let me submit the district that sends James Clyburn back to congress every two years and Mr. Clyburn need not advertise if he desires to opt out. Yes, District 6 in South Carolina. Where representation of the people takes on an entirely new meaning under Clyburn.
Here’s an idea! All states have counties. Why not just have each county be its own district — or adjucnt to another county based on congressional (i.e. Constitutional) requirements (i.e. number of senators/congressman per capita). I think this would easily do away with most of the “gerrymandering” crap.
The only thing left after that, is for the state to decide which left out counties get to be part of one another.
That would be all well and good, until county lines begin to be redrawn for the purpose of gerrymandering districts.
@Tron – your suggestion for county-only districts was actually the norm for decades, until SCOTUS ruled in the 1960′s that districts must be nearly equal in population.
Yay! The “Bullwinkle District”—NY 12, which gave us lefty Congresswoman Nydia Velasquez—made the cut, if in the second string. Actually, they’ve “rounded out” the district since it was first created; it looks a little less like the head of Bullwinkle than it did originally. But it is still designed for the sole purpose of creating a guaranteed safe seat for a Latino, which is why it includes some of the Lower East Side and some of Queens, as well as the heavily-Latino areas of Williamsburg, Red Hook and Sunset Park in Brooklyn.
Rorschach Tests:
http://perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/2010/11/gerrymandered-congressional-districts.html
Heh. My mom’s district, Fla-19, made the dishonorables! Such a proud moment for the family. I rather wish you’d have thrown in my own district, NJ-6, whose two halves are connected by naught but the bridge from the mainland into Sandy Hook, hugging the barrier island down Spring Lake and into Long Branch and Asbury Park – conveniently skipping all those Republicans in Rumson and Fair Haven. They’re stuck in NJ-12, which stretches entirely across the state, from the Atlantic to the Delaware River, and includes enough of Trenton and Princeton so that the Democrat can win comfortably.
NJ-6 covers parts of four of our 21 total counties. NJ-12 covers parts of five. End result – two Democrats voted into Congress despite the entirety of Monmouth County voting substantially for their two Republican opponents, 55.5% to 43.2%. That’s pretty much exactly why folks set out to gerrymander, isn’t it?
Re California. I suggest that you may want to look at another possibility. Due to the self-segregation you refer to, it becomes easier to disguise packing, since the boundaries don’t look quite so visually offensive. However, the result is similar – fewer but more populous Republican districts in a state that outside of San Fran, LA and Sacto is pretty much center-right. If you need evidence, look at the results by county over the past several electoral cycles, and you can see that Califorina may not be red, but it isn’t purple either after one moves beyond the welfare and public-employee enclaves. It’s closer to red than blue by a large margin, but the original intent of the Founders on the House was compromised to this degree by the vigor of the one-man, one-vote ruling by the Supreme Court. The Rats used it to squeeze the Pubs into electoral ghettos.
Judge Robert Bork, a constitutional scholar, and once a voting rights lawyer involved in reviewing voting districts in the light of minority representation wrote about this, many years ago. He foresaw that population, cultural, and economic shifts would occur in the future, but geometry of land was forever. Voting should create community, so grouping was important. The basic intent was to stay close to a square, so people could know each other. But rivers, main roads, mountains, etc. also create natural boundaries. So the lawyers attempted to use common sense, and a grease pencil, to define districts, with rough, compact, but not exact population subset counts. He saw, and loathed precise computer generated “safe seats” because of one certain outcome. Over time, no one accepts the selected as representing them. Their representative is unknown to them, lives far away, and shares no common concerns. Community is destroyed. So why vote?
This is where we are. Once every voting cycle, you may see your candidate in your community, if their staff has a direction finder in their car. Only death normally removes people like Ted Kennedy, from power. Political campaigns now are contests to validate old computer programs. People go to war, because of Version 2.2 of some code. And, as reported today, seven of the richest ten US counties, among the 3400 in the US, are the suburbs of Washington D.C. The immoral, undemocratic consolidation of power is where we are.
I once lived in an apartment complex in Michigan where the second floor was part of one district and the first floor was part of another. I now understand why the complex management never put black people on the second floor an never put white people on the first.
I worked in one of these(IL-4), and then moved across the country and wound up living/working in another(AZ-2). What are the odds?
Having been in the Chicago area all my life until recently, the theory proposed for the reasoning behind !L-4 is precisely correct.
The AZ-2 explanation, silly though it sounds—-IS as silly as it sounds. Note to the ‘combatants’ in AZ-2: the Indian Wars are over. You both lost. Welcome to representative government.
It might take an act of God, but we need to simply eliminate voting districts entirely. Voting should be contained with already existing county borders. And laws must be written to prevent gerrymandering of counties.
Anyone else notice that NY-12 has a burrough named “Queer”?
The map was just cut off. That’s Queens County.
Institute 720 degree maximum angle rule (legal borders excluded) at State level to allow limited but not excessive manipulation.
I’d also like to nominate Ohio-6.
I agree with OH-6!! Having been a resident of the area for over 30 years, I have seen it through several modifications. Its current configuration was for the express purpose of “keeping Ted’s seat safe!” Ted, of course being our soon to be former govenor Teddy-boy Strickland. It is over a 4 hour drive from one end to the other, mostly on narrow, curvy, hilly 2 lane highways. All of the good highways are up north!
‘Burg resident
Evidently we are saner in ND.
http://web.apps.state.nd.us/hubexplorer/legislativedist/viewer.html
It’s no surprise that MD-4 got a mention. It’s been gerrymandered for at least 20 years. It’s had 2 black Dem Reps since 1990. The second one replaced the first because the first was somehow not black enough or liberal enough.
MD-5 is worth a small mention too. It’s the Majority Leader Steny Hoyer’s district. It also has a small part on the east side next to DC that is wholly separated by MD-4 running thru it. Basic reason is that eastern part is more white liberal (as is Hoyer), and the MD-4 cut-thru is black liberal.
Since that worm O’Malley was reinstated in Gov’s chair, and the legislature remains in solid Dem hands, things will likely stay more or less the same. Ugh.
As a state, we had a pretty shameful performance since Zombie noted four of our eight Congressional districts here in Maryland.
But my district (MD-1) is always going to need to pick up some voters across the bay to be viable since the Eastern Shore is likely never going to have enough population to have its own representative. Logically one would think those who draw the map would wrap the district around the top of Chesapeake Bay (which is mostly how it is aside from the part in Anne Arundel County) but there have been occasions where the district was connected across water to southern Maryland instead.
Having elected a Baltimore County Republican to the district, I’m waiting to see if, for the first time in recent history, the Eastern Shore is split between multiple Congressional districts in order to dilute the Republicans here and the First District shifted westward to pick up part of Baltimore city.
Meanwhile, the poor folks in Anne Arundel County (which includes Annapolis) are subdivided into five different Congressional districts, as I recall.
We have Gerrymandering Lite in the US because we are by law obligated to create districts with more or less equal populations. In Venezuela, Hugo Chávez and his minions feel no such obligation to draw up voting districts with more or less equal populations. “I am the law,” Hugo says. In Venezuela, Chávez’s PSUV won 64% of the seats in the September 26 legislative elections, even though Chavistas won only about 48% of the vote. Some PSF may claim that is an issue of “first out of the post,” but an examination of the voting districts shows that claim is nonsense.
Miranda State elections results show Chavista gerrymandering at its finest.
In Circunscripción /Circuito/voting district 3, which we will call Miranda-3, the M.P.J./MUD [oppo] candidate won with 122,847 votes, which represented 59.7% of the total. Doing the math, a total of 205,774 votes were cast in Miranda-3, a district the oppo won.
In Circunscripción/Circuito/voting district 7, which we will call Miranda-7, the PSUV [Chavista] candidate won with 54,980 votes, which represented 65.53 % of the total. Doing the math, a total of 83,901 votes were cast in Miranda-7, a district the Chavistas won.
While a PSF may claim this was due to higher voter turnout for the oppo relative to Chavistas, an examination of the number of registered voters shows this claim to be a sham. You can click on Miranda-3 and Miranda-7 to find out the number of registered voters. We find out that in Miranda-3, which went oppo, there are 321,909 registered voters. We find out that in Miranda-7, which went Chavista, there are 137,843 registered voters.
On the state level, Miranda and Carabobo states show the extent of Chavista Gerrymandering.The Circunscripción circuitos/voting districts that went for PSUV /Chavista candidates had on average about 30% fewer registered voters/Assembly seat than those that went for Oppo candidates.
Registered voters/Assembly seat
Broken down by victors in Circuitos/Circunscripciones/voting districts, not for statewide winners.
Miranda
Oppo 255,104
Chavista 170,144
Carabobo
Oppo 267,524
Chavista 179,382
That is how you get 64% of the Assembly seats with only 48% of the vote. All votes are equal, but some votes are more equal than others.
Eection results are from links from the Election Results Main Page. Click on Miranda and on Carabobo for results for those states. [M.P.J. is oppo. P.S.U.V. is Chavista. In other states, there were other oppo-coalition parties running, such as Acción Democrática.]
Thanks zombie,
Texas is not in there any where.
We all get along down here.
80% Conservitive makes is easy.
APACHEWHOKNOWS
Until there are rules like only one district per county will be allowed, there will be gerrymandering.
WE WIN!! well not really
Florida oh Floriduh
most of the worst cherrymandered districts
and VOTERS spoke—> they are fed up
the good news: Amendments 5& 6 passes – now we hve the law behind us and an opportunity to fix it
http://www.fairdistrictsflorida.org/home.php…………..
been a longtime fan of ZOMBIE- from the photo essay days——
56. apachewhoknows
Thanks zombie,Texas is not in there any where.We all get along down here.80% Conservitive makes is easy.
See how the 10th, 21st and 25th Congressional Districts split up Austin.There are places in Austin where you can be one district and be within a mile or two of TWO OTHER districts. You can drive 140 miles from Austin to Tomball, a Houston suburb, and still be in TX-10.The border of TX-10 is within 5 miles of I-45, the Dallas-Houston freeway. Yet there are places in TX-10 in Austin where you can drive less than a mile and be in either TX-21 or TX-25. Looks like Gerrymandering to me.
Zombie, as has been said, your criticism of all of the “illegal” districts is unfounded, and unfortunately affects your credibility.
It’s not that “if a road connects two areas widely separated by water, then they count as being adjacent,” it’s that if the two areas are not separated by another congressional district, they are considered adjacent. The road isn’t even necessary.
I’m sure there are other, non gerrymandered districts, that would fail your test of contiguity if you consider the fact that they are separated by a river or other body of water.
Every single district in my list of noncontiguous districts has boundary lines that go underwater — often for many miles. Now, in the case of islands, obviously they need to be included in some district, so islands are a special situation not part of the discussion. But in all the instances I’m citing, the district encompasses two or more distinct mainland areas that do not touch each other. I’m quite sure that in most or all of those instances the redistricters justified their gerrymandering by drawing extensive underwater district lines to “connect” the noncontiguous zones. But look again at some of those – like NY-12 or NJ-13. Seriously, those are completely bogus district lines. Other congressional districts intervene and occupy the land between different components of those districts. The boundaries just as easily and much more logically could have been drawn to be completely thoroughly continguous, and not necessitate any imaginary underwater boundaries.
If underwater boundary lines are allowed, then gerrymanderers could legitimately have a congressional district consisting of one neighborhood in San Diego, one neighborhood in Los Angeles, one neighborhood in San Francisco, and one neighborhood in Mendocino County — all connected by underwater district lines!
If rivers, inlets and bays count too, we could have districts hopscotching across the landscape with no problem.
I’m not talking about “normal” districts that happen to have a river running through them, and thus occupy two sides of a riverbank. I’m talking about districts that are territorially broken up by intervening other districts.
Ten ten districts I highlighted may not be technically illegal under state law, because obviously the gerrymanderers are the one setting and enforcing the state regulations in the first place; but they obviously go against the intent of the law for all districts to be contiguous.
I get what you are saying, however Florida-18 really doesn’t break the rules. This includes the land on Florida’s tip, but that is National Park terrority where not many people live. The rest of the district includes the Florida Keys so the rule is waived in this case.
Well, that’s why I put it in the “maybe” category. A very minor infraction of the spirit of the law. I just don’t understand why they didn’t include a swath of land along the southern tip of the Everglades into FL-18, if that land is completely unoccupied. It wouldn’t have altered the demographics. Why bother creating unnecessary enclaves of land?
Fla 20, That is an injustice claim about algorithms. They are told what to do and then loaded into a computer by a devious person. Algorithms can be good.
“But all is forgiven, Florida-22, because on November 2 you elected as your representative Allen West MFC (My Favorite Congressman), quite obviously the next President of the United States.”
RIGHT YOU ARE, ZOMBIE!! And, thanks be to God, a lot of people are thinking the same way–more and more every day, as people learn who he is, and especially once they hear his speeches. We need to build a movement, and not waste any time about it. We can’t wait around until 2016 to have West in office–this country will not survive that long if things don’t get turned around soon. We need Allen West in 2012–which won’t come a moment too soon!
Please come visit http://www.WestForWestWing2012.com.
And now for something completely in line with this thread: From today’s Deseret News from Salt Lake City – “Rep. Jim Matheson, Utah’s only Democratic member of Congress, is calling for GOP Gov. Gary Herbert to create an independent commission to redraw the boundaries for congressional and legislative districts. His father, Scott Matheson, issued an executive order when he was governor to encourage a fair redistricting process 30 years ago, in 1981. Back then, the Legislature ignored the governor’s request. Friday, Herbert rejected Congressman Matheson’s request.”
Feel the heat Jimbo.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700081184/Matheson-wants-independent-group-to-redraw-congressional-districts.html
“Out here in California, as the writer noted, our politics are notoriously corrupt. They’re also notoriously liberal”
Redundant.
Man, if only those corrupt politicians would stop gerrymandering and leave themselves more vulnerable to losing their offices. Surely then our elected officials would be able to legislate effectively rather than be in perpetual campaign mode!
I only just realized I’m in the same California state senate district as my parents’ house thirty miles and many communities distant.
http://www.sen.ca.gov/ftp/SEN/senplan/SENMAPS/MAP28_300.JPG
With a deceased state senatress reelected nonetheless.
The odd thing is, I doubt it matters greatly how the boundaries are drawn through much of Los Angeles, so why do things get so blobby?
http://www.sen.ca.gov/~newsen/senators/LA_districts.htp
Well, I guess the county lines and zip code lines, aren’t that much neater.
And here I thought WV-2 was bad (longest congressional district east of the Mississippi) http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L3GlQwUZlko/TLaPPduY62I/AAAAAAAAAN8/6D2UAvwf1dM/s1600/WV02_110.gif
Unless we’ve got a concentration of Communists in NC-13 I would add it to this list. Congressman Brad Miller is the Democrat re-elected this month running against a solid, if not well known, conservative Black Republican by a comfortable margin of around 10%. Brad Miller spouts the Party line at every opportunity and contributes articles to the Daily Kos. How, I ask myself, could this guy possibly get re-elected in this political climate and this is the only rationale I can come up with. There’s got to be a better, non partisan approach to creating these boundaries.
http://www.acluutah.org/redistricting.htm
From a Utah branch of the ACLU, an organization that more often than not, make my eyes bleed but the alternate approaches they suggest here make sense, at least on the surface; worth a read.
While I think the described practice is deplorable in most cases, some of the examples given make no sense… if there is a mass of water inbetween you by nature have a possible split there. With your logic, any district that involves an island or would only be reachable by land through another state would also be illegal.
You think NC 12 is gerrymandered. You should have seen it before the US Supreme Court mandated some “corrections.
The California Distict with the communist Pete Stark (devout communist – not even kidding)is possibly the worst in the USA. I have no clue how he can get re-elected every 2 years since the 1970s. He laughs at you if you ask about the border, tells you in a town hall meeting that the whole crowd is idiots because they have health care questions, and I have NEVER seen him even hold a decent conversation with someone debating him.
Proof Negative has had on great shows and guests discussing this stuff on Freedomizer Radio (http://www.freedomizerradio.com ) weeknights 6pm-9pm Pacific time. I would definitely recommend checking out that show.
I wish that my vote would count.
I live in the hugely gerrymandered district 13 in North Carolina that includes half of the state capital Raleigh.
Link:
[en.wikipedia.org]
This district has been designed to FORCE a Democrat win in Congress.
So I have no say in who my representative is.
That privilege has been stolen by the Democrats that drew the district lines to make it a guaranteed win for them.
My loss….
I hope that the Republicans can start to get things straightened out in this state.
Many many years ago when I was a teenager I lived near Philadelphia.
I thought the government of that city was crooked.
They cannot hold a candle to the good ole boy democrat thievery we have here in North Carolina.
Highest gasoline taxes in the region.
An “education lottery” whose earnings do not go to education.
A “Highway trust fund” that does not go to highways.
Crappy schools, Crappy roads, High tax rates.
And to top it off they are working on building a toll road (around Raleigh) for the first time in the state!
The highway contractors are so dirty with graft and corruption that a blind man in a coma could see it clearly.
The SBI (State investigations) do not investigate the corruption because they are controlled by the political hacks.
The McLatchy left wing newspaper ain’t helping either.
Thank God for Obama and Peloski!
(Thats right I said it)
Their inane bumbling caused the Republican landslide in North Carolina!!!
It’s the best thing they will ever do.
Their crappy governance is so odorous it has caused a state that has been Democratic since 1870 to finally wake up and start real change.
I doubt this is the type of “change” that Obama was talking about but I’ll take it!!!
It’s not just how they look on a map, although that is important. I go to school in CA-15:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CA-15th.gif
It looks alright, but all of the space between Gilroy and Los Gatos is uninhabited mountains, with a winding road in between them. Gilroy is essentially an enclave, with no societal connection to the rest of the district.
Argh.
Coincidentally, I was looking at this just before the election. We live in your “worst,” here in Chicago.
This city — and state — are preposterous on so many grounds anyway; what of it if our districts are a sham? Two consecutive governors in or going to prison (bipartisan, too!), and Daley fleeing Chicago just as its budget craters.
Taken a look at Jane Harman’s district, CA-36? When I moved here in 1980, “B-1 Bob” Dornan was my congressman. Then it go reapportioned for the hand-picked Mel Levine. Now it’s Jane’s little fiefdom.
I also agree with “Zombie” that … It is in fact these state-office gerrymandered districts that are the source of the problem, because the politicians doing the gerrymandering of the congressional districts are themselves elected according to the different state-office district boundaries!
There is a way to fix this, but it involves math, not politics, so it won’t fly. Bear with me for a moment.
Each proposed district should be scored by the equation:
Gerrymander Score = (Perimeter)^2 / Area
The more gerrymandered the district, the larger this number will be. For example, if the district was circular, it’s score would be around 13. A perfectly square district would score 16. A state could pass a law that sets the maximum Gerrymander Score to, say, 30.
Like I said, it won’t fly. Too difficult to cheat and it doesn’t allow for “societal needs”. Like re-electing an incumbent.
Thanks for the information.
Looking at the maps in more detail just makes it worse. FL-23, for example, is about 120 miles from end to end. At its narrowest, some of its tendrils are only 0.1 miles wide; one block! As it, 2nd avenue is the Western edge, and 4th Avenue is the Eastern edge. There are several such connections, as well as two major connections that go through uninhabited swampland. Thus, it would not be possible to reach every part of the district in a car, without going through other districts.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=FL&district=23
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It should be noted that at least one of those districts, AZ-2, will change with the 2010 census, as the Navajos and Hopis have agreed to be in the same district. Interesting thing is that’s the only district on the list drawn by a non-partisan commission, although WA-1 could have made it. Also honorable mentions to HI-2 and MI-1 which could not possibly have been contiguous due to geography
This type of gerrymandering is undemocratical! I never knew that the United States had such atrocities, especially IL-4! What America should do is have a non-partisan commision where the lines are drawn up in respect to the community, not to the politicians. Once the lines are drawn up, then it should be open for debate and rejections. This drawing up process should be similar to Australia’s: http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Redistributions/2010/vic/index.htm
Includes objections, comments etc. The final report is the first document.
Also this: http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Redistributions/2010/vic/proposed-report/files/2010-vic-redist-proposed-report.pdf
Surprised to see Illinois only twice on the list… but then seeing us ranked #1 sorta tells the story.
I’m a constituent of Fl-20, and until you posted this I didn’t even know where the district lines were. I vote, but I’ve only recently become old enough to do so.
I have a question, how do you propose islands be given congressional districts then? The number of permanent residents in the Outer Banks is pretty low, there’s nowhere near enough people for them to form their own Congressional district. I imagine the same is true for Key West. Should those people just not get representatives?