6 Comments, 6 Threads

1. 1. Pamela in Colorado

   Hope you are/were nowhee near this Stephen

   posted by: Paola Farer (Web Producer)
   Created: 5/15/2004 11:23 AM MDT – Updated: 5/15/2004 11:42 AM MDT

   A steel girder collapsed onto a Dodge Durango driving on I-70 under C-470, killing three people. May 15, 2004.

   JEFFERSON COUNTY – I-70 is closed in both directions at C-470 after a steel girder collapsed onto the eastbound lanes of I-70 and landed on a car.

   The three people who were in the car were all killed, said Stacey Stegman with the Colorado Department of Transportation. The car was split in half by the impact.

   Stegman said the girder weighed several tons. She said it was just placed on Tuesday as part of a construction project that has been ongoing all week.

   “We have no reason to believe that this should have happened,” said Stegman. “We are looking into it, it’s very tragic.”

   The collapse happened around 10 a.m. Eastbound I-70 is closed at the accident site. One lane of westbound I-70 is getting by. Most traffic is being rerouted around the accident site onto 6th Avenue. If heading eastbound use the Morrison Exit off of I-70.

   We will have live coverage on 9NEWS and updates on 9NEWS.com.

   May 15, 2004 - 11:56 am   Link to this Comment

   

   
2. 2. felixrayman

   Apparently Michele’s “best” involves being an apologist for torturers. If that’s her best, one would hate to see her at her worst.

   So, a question about the following scenario, Stephen. American soldiers are captured by Iraqi insurgents. They are strapped to boards and repeatedly held underwater to the point where the soldiers think they are going to die in an attempt to extract intelligence information from them.

   Your reaction to such a situation would be:
   1) It is a reasonable interrogation method. Proper treatment of US POWs. This is how you, Stephen Green, personally want our soldiers treated when they are captured.
   2) This shows how barbaric the Iraqis are.
   3) Stephen Green is a stupid piece of shit hypocrite, and an apologist for torture who has put our troops at risk by completely abandoning the Geneva Convention, and noone should listen to his opinion in any event.

   I’m thinking 3) but I’d like to hear your pick.

   May 17, 2004 - 1:18 am   Link to this Comment

   

   
3. 3. bobber

   Michele is a poor writer with weak arguments. But thanks for showing what you consider a good blog post…anger does not a good blog make…and weak reasoning repulses me. Why is everyone drawing so many comparisons to the torture story and the beheading? Why does the right love this snuf video so much? It is because they have lost their moral high ground and are desperate to get it back. “We are better then beheaders.” That’s awesome. It is time for some evolution in our society…

   May 17, 2004 - 11:27 am   Link to this Comment

   

   
4. 4. Gonzo....

   MUST RESIST TEMPTATION TO FEED TOLLS.. MUST RESIST..

   May 17, 2004 - 1:59 pm   Link to this Comment

   

   
5. 5. Deft-N-Dom

   Felix,
   I think you are confusing the 3rd Geneva Convention, which deals with POWs, with the 4th Geneva Convention which deals with civilian combatants. I give you this quote from todays Wall Street Journal:

   “The Fourth allows–indeed obliges–an occupying power to use its discretion within wide parameters to maintain law and order (Article 64), and contains no specific restriction on interrogation, other than saying that “protected persons” not be subjected to “physical or moral coercion” (Article 31). But–note well–protected persons are defined as “persons taking no active part in the hostilities” (Article 3).

   In other words, the Geneva Conventions do not speak specifically to the interrogation treatment of non-uniformed Baathist or jihadi guerrillas detained in connection with attacks on U.S. forces or Iraqi civilians. Except that the Fourth does permit us to execute them (Article 68)–a practice often seen in the less politically correct wars of years past.”

   May 17, 2004 - 2:10 pm   Link to this Comment

   

   
6. 6. Giles

   Now that’s what I call a rant!

   May 21, 2004 - 10:04 pm   Link to this Comment