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January 10, 2014 - 7:26 am
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Vermont’s governor dedicated his entire state of the state address this week to the scourge of drug addiction, stressing that the uptick in heroin use is more deadly that guns or “all of the other things that we keep talking about.”

“What started as an OxyContin and prescription drug addiction problem in this state has now grown into a full-blown heroin crisis,” Peter Shumlin said of the 770 percent increase in opiate treatment in his home state since 2000.

The White House’s Office of National Drug Control Policy has also reported the number of deaths involving heroin jumped 45 percent between 1999 and 2010.

“I mean, obviously, it’s no more serious than the other states around us. I think, I hope that the difference is that I’m willing to confront it and, as governor, take it on head on. And, listen, here’s the challenge. We have lost the war on drugs. The notion that we can arrest our way out of this problem is yesterday’s theory,” Shumlin told PBS.

“This is one of the real battles that we’re facing that we have got to win. And we have got to do that by changing the discussion and changing the policy, so that we say that what heroin addicts and folks that are addicted to opiates are facing is a public health issue, not a crime issue. And we have got to be willing to fight it from that vantage point.”

Shumlin said he feels especially strong about the issue because so few leaders seem to want to talk about it.

“Governors don’t like talking about it because we’re afraid that when we move our policy from law enforcement, and the belief and the fantasy that you can beat this just with law enforcement, and, in fact, have to treat it with treatment and with services that will help folks move from addiction to recovery, that something will go wrong, and that therefore we don’t dare take any risk,” he said.

“So I say the risk for Vermont, frankly, the risk for the other states around the country is, we have got more people dying from opiate addiction and from drug addiction than is killing us in automobiles, killing us with guns, killing us with all of the other things that we keep talking about,” Shumlin continued. “So let’s start facing this as the health crisis that it is and change our policies, so that we can start actually making progress and moving people from addiction to recovery.”

When asked if there’s a profile of the person who’s using, the governor replied, “Everybody.”

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The problem is, once its "legal" then you have to control it. Get your hands on it. Get the government into the business of weights and measures, quality control, purity, and licenses….

They must start testing and "declaring" what IS Pot , and what IS Pouporri....what is the "minumum amount" of mind-altering THC required so that it may be sold without "ripping off" the consumer, just like is necessary for a shop that tries to sell colored sugar water as "Orange Juice", or a gas station selling 3 quarts of 81 octane as a “gallon” of “premium”

Nope, this HERE is good, full quality, FDA approved STONNER weed.

It effectively gets the Government in the system as the "lead pusher" and illicit drugs are like no other consumer product...they evolved with the INTENT to enslave its user, and they were "illegal" for so long FOR that very reason....

And with all the "hatred" that goes against Big Tobacco from The Left... the sanctions, the punitive measures, the shakedowns, the politically correct social demonization and emotional blackmail...why on EARTH do they support the notion of creating a "Big Pot" or "Big Cocaine" to market an new, legal consumable "product" to our KIDS like you know they will… like Big Tobacco did, and like Alcohol does now?

I've never seen someone O.D. on Marlboro’s...I've never seen HIV spread by discarded cigarettes...I've not seen Pipe tobacco or cigars, utterly wipe out someones work ethic, and keep them in their moms basement past 35….content, mellow and USELESS...

And I've never, ever seen a shooting spree, suicide, domestic violence episode, or horrific car crash that killed a busload of kids, tied to all that "tobacco" they recently ingested .

So, if Lefties and Libertarians think Big Tobacco is so "evil" it should be put "out of business", why put Big Pot INTO business at all?

Could it be the SAME mental defect that makes them praise the likes of Mao, Che’, Obama and Islam, while always condemning The West, Regan, Jefferson, and Christianity?


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33 weeks ago
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I live near 1-91 in Western MA. The MA state police catch many of the drug trafficers on their way to VT. They stand out like a sore thumb. They're often from urban areas. They usually stop them for traffic violations and voila.

A couple of weeks ago they made a stop and arrested local Vters who were with the urbans. Am I accusing the MA staties of profiling? I hope so.

33 weeks ago
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Seriously...

Anyone stupid enough to mess with drugs needs to be eliminated from the gene pool.....you don’t GET a "clean needle" from my taxes, you get a FAST BULLET or nothing…. You had your chance, and you blew it. Suffer the consequences of your own actions, and you might LEARN something.

"but what if its YOU child" you might ask.

He already knows the answer.

My kids know drugs like coke and heroin were SPECIFICALLY CREATED to enslave the user and enrich the seller. They know you will you forgo food, clothing, shelter and dignity to get more, that you will KILL OR DIE to pay for more stuff once you’re hooked. They know because I took the time to SHOW THEM the REAL living consequences of drug use, without the Lefty, Hollywood glamorization of it all.

In MY family, Drug Use (including Pot) is a forbidden taboo, something that’s not tolerated, just like Rape or Bank Robbery... moral thresholds you will NOT "experiment" with because its WRONG, end of story.

And for every Silly White Liberal that says "but getting high doesnt make you violent", consider that MOST KILLERS in America are young black men who get high, every single day.

In their decayed, fatherless and immoral urban culture, there is nearly zero "social opposition" towards drug use… and they suffer the most harm themselves, and bring to the country at large, ITS greatest amount of strife and chaos, because of it.

70% of all murders are committed by young black men who smoke pot more often than I eat breakfast, it is the overall constant background ‘buzz” of their lives...they are, to a man, 99.999% likely to be "high and mellow" every time they pull a trigger or plunge a knife. Peaceful, cool, non-aggressive pot-heads-who-never-go-to-harder-drugs-or-commit-crimes, my ass.

The word "Assassin" COMES from the word "hashish"….for one who is “high” enough to commit murder....they were called "Hashish-ens" way back then, and today we say "Assassin” when we mean a drone-like, heartless killer with no conscious or remorse. Drugs, violence, and the loss of your SOUL have gone hand in hand since Day One. End of story

Why ELSE would Leftist Control Freaks keep making ever more “socially acceptable” to buy and use things that have already destroyed and subjugated the Black Culture in this country? Because they LIKE you...because they care about your KIDS? Or because they want YOU TOO to be strung out, needy, and helpless to resist the next “big idea” from “big government”

So go ahead and live your in Lefty Utopia....do whatever YOU like to destroy yourself and everything around you...just keep it on the sh*t side of town, and dont expect the rest of us to pay the freight….we'll come by every so often and bulldoze the corpses into mass graves to help the flies down...

And we’ll SHOOT you worthless, parasitic zombies on site, when you cross over into our neighborhoods looking for more “stuff” …

Deal?

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"We have lost the war on drugs. The notion that we can arrest our way out of this problem is yesterday’s theory,” Shumlin told PBS."

He's right.

We lost it when we decided that the problem is the pushers, not the users.

Of course, that was the intent.

33 weeks ago
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Beautiful!! Darwin's Law. Thinning the herd of degenerate liberals.
33 weeks ago
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I have not seen any evidence that "treatment" works. What kind of "treatment" are we talking about? Substitute drugs? Talk therapy? What? Will addicts be locked up and/or monitored against their will?
33 weeks ago
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Now we know what the 91 million unemployed are doing.
33 weeks ago
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"have to treat it with treatment and with services that will help folks move from addiction to recovery," A guy walks into a bank showing a gun and demands all of the money. Treat him with community service and a psychiatrist. Start a new program Gov, that will fix it. Or, talk to our Prez about allowing the Border cops to stop the flow. Increase the size of the prisons and put everyone of the dealers and users there for 10 years, no exceptions for any reason.
33 weeks ago
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"Increase the size of the prisons and put everyone of the dealers and users there for 10 years, no exceptions for any reason."

That's the problem. We don't go after the users, only the pushers.

33 weeks ago
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Why is heroin suddenly so cheap?
33 weeks ago
33 weeks ago Link To Comment
The problem is, once its "legal" then you have to control it. Get your hands on it. Get the government into the business of weights and measures, quality control, purity, and licenses….

They must start testing and "declaring" what IS Pot , and what IS Pouporri....what is the "minumum amount" of mind-altering THC required so that it may be sold without "ripping off" the consumer, just like is necessary for a shop that tries to sell colored sugar water as "Orange Juice", or a gas station selling 3 quarts of 81 octane as a “gallon” of “premium”

Nope, this HERE is good, full quality, FDA approved STONNER weed.

It effectively gets the Government in the system as the "lead pusher" and illicit drugs are like no other consumer product...they evolved with the INTENT to enslave its user, and they were "illegal" for so long FOR that very reason....

And with all the "hatred" that goes against Big Tobacco from The Left... the sanctions, the punitive measures, the shakedowns, the politically correct social demonization and emotional blackmail...why on EARTH do they support the notion of creating a "Big Pot" or "Big Cocaine" to market an new, legal consumable "product" to our KIDS like you know they will… like Big Tobacco did, and like Alcohol does now?

I've never seen someone O.D. on Marlboro’s...I've never seen HIV spread by discarded cigarettes...I've not seen Pipe tobacco or cigars, utterly wipe out someones work ethic, and keep them in their moms basement past 35….content, mellow and USELESS...

And I've never, ever seen a shooting spree, suicide, domestic violence episode, or horrific car crash that killed a busload of kids, tied to all that "tobacco" they recently ingested .

So, if Lefties and Libertarians think Big Tobacco is so "evil" it should be put "out of business", why put Big Pot INTO business at all?

Could it be the SAME mental defect that makes them praise the likes of Mao, Che’, Obama and Islam, while always condemning The West, Regan, Jefferson, and Christianity?


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33 weeks ago
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Clarification: Most Libertairians I've known are far, far less "west hating" than than Che' shirt wearing Commie Democrats, but they DO seem to agree with killing off Big Tobacco in my conversations with them, and I dont get it
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TheRoot83: Here's one Libertarian that believes if you want to ingest nicotine or pot or heroin it's your business. Where I draw the line, is two-fold: 1) Don't do it in public. I don't want to ingest YOUR 2nd hand smoke from your cigarette/cigar, joint or pipe. 2) Don't expect me to pay your medical bills when you need a lung transplant. This is about Individual Rights AND Personal Responsibility!!
33 weeks ago
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I could agree with that policy, if there were some reasonable way to make sure that we don't have stoned people driving, operating heavy machinery, etc.

But along that line, does that mean you would support a complete ban on all smoking in public?

33 weeks ago
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Years ago, in their book "Oath of Fealty", Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle coined the dictum, "Consider it evolution in action".

I've always liked that line .....
33 weeks ago
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Darwin award winners abound.
33 weeks ago
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The problem with Gov. Shumlin's position is that even if there is a window to get someone into treatment when the blue lights are flashing, that window closes quickly after the lights go away. Drug users, especially users of drugs like heroin and cocaine, aren't rational. The drugs affect the brain at a very, very basic level. This plan would simply swap a population that bounces in and out of prison with a population that bounces in and out of treatment.

A better idea is to recognize that the government cannot protect you from yourself. If you're bound and determined to kill yourself, nothing the state can do will keep you alive. Likewise, if you insist on doing dangerouns things, you will eventually end up dead.
33 weeks ago
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As I said below, it's the "eventually" part that's the problem. An addict can cause a lot of trouble for himself, his family, and other innocent people before he ultimately kills himself. Drug abuse is not a "victimless crime." The victims are everyone who has to put up with the drug abuser while he's still alive.
33 weeks ago
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Drug abuse has only one victim: the abuser. That addiction may drive some of them to commit other crimes that have actual victims, but we already have a system to deal with those choices. It doesn't matter to the person being mugged if the mugger is motivated by simple greed or a desire for the next fix.

Nobody HAS to put up with a drug abuser. You may choose to, and very small children may not know any other way. For the latter there's CPS. And I'm no more interested in using government to protect you from your choices than I am in protecting the addict from his.
33 weeks ago
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Make all the excuses you want. There's a process of natural selection taking place here and if we're smart we'll keep our hands off.
33 weeks ago
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It doesn't work fast enough.
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