Hearing the news that conservative “rising star” Florida Senator Marco Rubio has endorsed Mitt Romney, one could now say his nomination is a “slam dunk.”
That phase, you may remember, was famously attributed to CIA Director George Tenet in 2002 as he assured President Bush about the evidence that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction.
Now, Mitt Romney’s presumed “slam dunk” nomination reminds me of another infamous phase from that same Iraq War era.
“You go to war with the army you have—not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”
That statement, uttered in 2004 by then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, was in response to a soldier’s complaints about equipment shortages.
So now it is time for a “teachable moment”.
Take Rumsfeld’s quote, revise it slightly, and apply it to Mitt Romney as the GOP 2012 nominee.
We will battle Obama with the candidate we have — not the candidate we might want or wish to have at a later time.
This statement should be the Republican Party mantra going forward.
For as Republicans, do we really have a choice?
Imagine a President Obama 2.0. His second-term sequel would be a disaster movie with the name “Unleashed.”
We only saw a glimpse of it this week with the Russian “open mike” incident and Obama is well aware that if re-elected, he will never have to face the voters again.
This election comes down to this one simple fact:
“Obama and the left, in charge of the government, without the checks and balances provided by elections”.
What could possibly go wrong?
I’ve had it. The choice will be between Progressive Internationalist Obama and Progressive Nationalist Romney. Either way, Progressives win.
I’m voting for Obama. You folks clearly haven’t learned the lesson. We get the leaders we deserve, and we deserve Obama in a big way. Half the country is still clinging to their utopian delusions.
What’s the difference? An over-spending socialist, or an over-spending socialist? The architect of Obamacare, or the contractor who built the Obamacare Office Complex? I’m more impressed with the man who pulled it off at the national level, thank you very much.
Jaycen: There is a small article here on PJ Media you can find called “The most terrifying website on the internet.
I suggest you take a glance at it and then come back and convince us why you would vote for Obama.
How well did that argument work for Rumsfeld, Myra, it took more troops and an aggressive strategy to change the ‘facts on the ground’ in Iraq,
The only thing I can say in Romney’s favor is that he seems to be enough of a competitive bastard to possibly—just possibly—be interested in actually winning the election instead of merely attaining the glory of nomination by a major party. So, having all but bought the nomination, he just might be interested in doing what is necessary to win the election, even though he has, as yet, no detectable core principles that a base might wish to rally around.
On the other hand, the palooka the party nominated to throw the election in 2008 also looked, for a moment or two, like he might be interested in winning. It’s always better to have your ringer look convincing, so maybe the ferocity that the Extruded Plastic Checked-Shirt Android has displayed towards his primary competition thus far is merely in order to make this year’s dive look more convincing than the roommate act that John McCain staged.
Romney is safe with the base; they will all vote against Obama.
What Romney needs is the mush-and-milksop “moderates” and “independents.” He just might be the right candidate for them.
It will be a mushy four years with President Romney, eight if enough things go wrong with Hillary’s 2016 campaign, but at least Romney won’t scare the moderates. In 2020 we can elect Marcus Magnus and get down to some serious greatness once again.
–The Calendar According to arhooley
I disagree that what is needed is the moderates and independents, I say what is needed is Enthusiasm and Energy, with those the moderates and independents would be sucked right into voting for the Republican, just as they were in 2010. The TEA Party energy and turnout will not be there for Romney, as he is clearly a big stinking pile of ambition without any guiding principles. The depressed Primary turnout is just a hint of the coming GOTV disaster the Republicans are going to enjoy. The only good turnout we have seen was in South Carolina when the Enthusiasm and Energy of the TEA Party got behind Newt Gingrich.
There are Two Types of people in this world, those that advance on the merit of their achievements, and those that advance by tearing down those that stand in their way, as Romney has done with $10′s of millions in negative advertising. Romney’s political achievements are identical to Obama’s, Obamneycare, increased Spending, increased Taxes, and lies.
This is the man I will vote for. He sounds nothing like the man currently residing in the Oval Office:
“In Barack Obama’s government-centered society, the government must do more because the economy is doomed to do less,” Romney said. “When you attack business and vilify success, you will have less business and less success.”
“President Obama is transforming America into something very different than the land of the free and the land of opportunity. And we know where that transformation leads. There are other nations that have chosen that path and it leads to chronic high unemployment, crushing debt and stagnant wages. Sound familiar?” -Mitt Romney-
Sounds like Governor Romney stopped just short of calling Obama the socialist that he is.
Romney 2012
Should he actually WIN the nomination will Mr. Romney get as nasty with Obama as he did with Newt in Florida? Romney spent 20 million bucks spent in less than 3 weeks to bad-mouth Gingrich! Romney tortured Florida citizens with round-the-clock negativity aimed at Newt. Will Romney do the same against Obama (when it really counts)? I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think he will. Romney & Obama are too much alike.
I discussed this over at BELMONT CLUB.
http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2012/03/26/lets-make-a-deal-3/#comments
Comment #10.
There are more details and reasons in the comment, but short form: I detest Mitt Romney, and if he is the nominee; I and my family will end a 3+ decade active connection with the Republican Party. His nomination means that the Republican Party is profoundly unserious about defending the country and the Constitution. Because Romney will lose. He has never stood up against the Democrats and the Left in his political career. He has never fought back. He will be another Dole or McCain, and he will lose.
Even though I will not be a Republican anymore, I will vote for the inbred stack of meat … this time; because for all his faults at least Romney is not openly conspiring with a hostile foreign power [Russia]. That is an awful low bar that is set for a presidential choice, and that is all that is left. But my money and efforts will go to Patriot candidates for the House and Senate. And to seeing that if there are elections in 2014, that the TEA Party becomes the second party, if not the predominant one.
Subotai Bahadur
Well…bye.
My sentiments exactly. I’m might just leave the GOP as well and put a “Don’t blame me, I voted for Ross Perot and Ron Paul” bumper sticker on my car!
Or, you could go ahead and put an Obama sticker on your car and just be done with it.
Thanks for that.
But I will not vote for him. Not that it matters as I live in a state deep in the Obama tank. He will, as you say, lose anyway. The poor fool and his foolish followers haven’t a clue what’s about to hit them. He’ll be eaten alive without even knowing what ate him.
Notice that the tireless Romney shills like Myra Adams can’t ever make an actual positive case for this turkey but always fall back on “we have no other choice” meme, i.e., fear and threat. I’m done with it. I also choose not to overlook or forget the preemptive savage assaults on Sarah Palin which the Romney camp took up even before the 2008 elections were decided, and which festered here in the form of frightened and chippy little shills like Adams. Of course, they know little else but fear and loathing.
The loser Romney will lose. There’s your “teachable moment.” Maybe the GOP will finally learn the lesson.
Yes, Romney will lose, and the GOP will learn its lesson.
It won’t matter, because with a newly “flexible” Obama running things, and a likely Supreme court appointment for him, conservative political views will be defined as Hate Speech in 2016.
PJ Media will be as dangerous to have on your computer as kiddie porn.
And the surviving conservatives will meet secretly in basements, grumbling how that damn Romney spoiled everything.
Remember, one of the interesting questions that has come out of the Obamacare supreme court debate was “If the government can do this, what can they not do? What is the limit?” And Obama’s mouthpiece couldn’t give one, other than “oh, just trust us, we won’t go too far”.
We are one judicial appointment away from a left wing that has no limits at all. Just one. Think about it. No Limits. A Supreme Court that will just nod and let them do Anything. They. Want. Any Republican, ANY one, will avoid that.
Fair enough. Then rally for a brokered convention and dump this loser before it’s too late.
Who you think will make decisions at a brokered convention, genius?
It’s the abject stupidity of you peoples “arguments” which is so deeply depressing.
“Who will make the decisions at a brokered conventions”
A fair consideration. The Socialist Romney Elite will certainly do everything in their power to get what they want. The interesting thing is just how deeply has the Tea Party taken over at the grass roots.
Because no matter what the Romney Socialist Party does at the top. Ultimately the vote comes from the bottom. The Tea Party has been busy filling in the Repub party from the bottom up. The question is , “Have the Tea Party selected the State delegates, or have the Romney Socilist party done so?”
Answer that one and you can see why maybe we free Americans would like a contested nomination.
Hate to shatter you illusions, but the Tea Party does not support any one candidate. Many people the TP does support – such as Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, etc – have endorsed Romney. As far as voters go, Romney gets about the same percentage of TP supporters as does Santorum, and more than Gingrich does.
But if would make zero difference to you if 90% of Tea Party people endorsed Romney.
Dies it bother you at all that the “Romney Socialist Party” contains people like Marco Rubio?
What in the world I have ever posted makes you in any way think that I think Rubio is anything but a RINO?
Gee… Rubio and GHB sitting in a tree , sharing peanut butter.. endorsing Socialist Romney… DUH.
You do not have to “buy a clue”… I just gave you that one for free.
What in the world I have ever posted makes you in any way think that I think Rubio is anything but a RINO?
Fair enough.
So go ahead and name the people who you think are the real conservatives, the real Republicans, the non-RINO’s.
You know, I’ve never been a “Rubio guy”. I don’t really know much about him, so it doesn’t matter who he supports.
Any so-called Tea Partier who supports a Progressive has just ejected himself from the Tea Party, as far as I’m concerned, so it doesn’t bother me a bit. I know the principles for which Tea Partiers stand. I’ve met too many at the rallies I’ve attended.
I’ve met person after person who said what I was thinking on a lot of issues. We immediately recognize each other when we converse. Not worried a bit about who “is and isn’t Tea Party”.
I’d love a brokered convention. That’s the hopey-changey ideal I’m holding onto for now. There’s still a chance to get someone who didn’t get stamped out of the same machine as Obama/Romney/Santorum/Gingrich/Bush/Clinton/Huntsman, Jr., etc. All those guys are really the same guy, with a different mask.
Regardless, Progs aren’t getting my money or my support. You can’t convince me to hate “the other guy” enough to throw my support at someone who’s just as bad as the other guy. The enemy of my enemy can often still be my enemy.
You know, I’ve never been a “Rubio guy”.
Another one. And I see that you also fail to say who you DO like.
If the anti-Romney crowd were fans of some other Republicans I would find it easier to believe their claims about being concerned conservatives. But if there is not not one single politician in the GOP who you like, then you are what I keep saying you are – Democratic party trolls and mobys.
Using your scenario, what makes you think the GOP would finally learn its lesson in 2012, after not learning it in 2008, 1996…?
For me, the GOP must die by 2016, to be surpassed by some form of Tea Party.
“The GOP must die?” No Ed, the brown shirts from Huffington Post or Dailey Kos like yourself should learn how to make a debate without giving away your true leftist “hate Romney” attitude. Do you really think anyone here takes you serious Ed? At the most, your personna seems rather desperate. Just like Obama – you failed.
Beware who you call a BROWNSHIRT, Deb; my relatives dies under the Nazis, YOU A§§HOLE.
Then get in line and vote for Santorum. You Republicans need to get this through your thick heads- we’re not afraid anymore. We’re Christians. The fact that we haven’t faced martyrdom in a long time around here is an anomaly. What is it to us if you lose your liberty because you refused to stand with us and oppose abortion?
I also choose not to overlook or forget the preemptive savage assaults on Sarah Palin which the Romney camp took up even before the 2008 elections were decided
You’re insane.
I know the blurb on the page says “no ad hominem attacks”, but I don’t consider this to be one. You really are certifiable, and so are the vast majority of the mobys and frothing morons who plague this site with their unhinged RomneyHate. I have not seen people as flat out cuckoo as you lot since 2000-2008, when the left screamed their idiotic heads off for eight long years about BusHitler.
But then, at least some of you are the exact same people.
YEAH!
You may disagree with Romney views, don’t trust his records, or simply hold other views.. but for you that must be hate! Romney hate!
Romney hate is plaguing this site! Romney hate is plaguing this site! (Even though it’s a comment in an Romney-cheerleading article by Myra Adams).
You may disagree with Romney views, don’t trust his records, or simply hold other views.. but for you that must be hate! Romney hate!
What makes a person an insane hater is the claim that Romney is a Marxist, or a socialist, or that he launched “preemptive savage assaults on Sarah Palin .. even before the 2008 elections were decided”.
That is spittle-flecked drooling lunacy right there.
I’m firmly in favor of kicking crazy people out of the GOP. It appears that a Romney nomination will go a long ways towards accomplishing that.
I’ll suggest it’s a variation of Godwin’s Law to call someone “insane” in response to a contention. And with such fervor!
You really dispute that Romney’s people were wetting their pants at the prospect of a Palin candidacy and went after her or abetted attacks on her through proxies and innuendo for the last two years? Or that Myra Adams has written one oozingly contemptuous piece on Palin after another?
But I’ll defer to the more colloquial definition of insanity — repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result. That is to say, nominating one more toothless and clueless RINO with no record of anything but flailing defeat in the face of the Left — and during the raging peak of Leftist influence in this country no less — and expecting anything other than, well, another defeat.
I’ve never seen a candidate more unsuited to his time or a bigger and more obviously galumphing loser than Mitt Romney. But most striking is the thoroughgoing and monotonous smugness, vindictiveness and pettiness of his supporters. You’ve been wildly attacking everybody in the race (and even those rumored to enter) for two years without an effort to mount a positive or inspiring message. Otherwise, all I’ve heard was how little Romney needed conservatives because of his irresistible appeal to the “indies.”
Now, at the alleged cusp of securing the nomination, there is still no effort to heal wounds and assume any kind of leaderly munificence. Just more attacks, and cold dictums to suck it up in the name of party unity. It’s as if even his supporters realize, deep down, that he’s a loser.
That would make sense.
You really dispute that Romney’s people were wetting their pants at the prospect of a Palin candidacy and went after her or abetted attacks on her through proxies and innuendo for the last two years?
Umm .. yes.
It is sad that it’s come to this, but I agree. The most vocal supporters of this “severe conservative” use all of the ploys of the left, projection, name calling, dismissive arrogance, certainly enough to reinforce the perception that their candidate is as much like Obama as they are like Obama’s supporters.
The Dole and McCain disasters should have caused a complete revision in how the party chooses candidates but it didn’t. Not since Jimmy Carter (the first one, not this one) has there been a better opportunity to put forth a candidate who is actually in favor of smaller government, instead the GOP offers up three stateists and a naive dreamer.
People voted for Perot because he was the better candidate, NAFTA proved it, in spades. The Soviets used to say that the US had the illusion of a democracy, considering the fact that the turn over in the Senate is lower than the old Politburo may mean they were right. We have one party in the country now, the republicrat party. A pox on both it’s wings.
and such other leftist tactics that are far to much like obama’s treatment of hillary’s pumas for comfort – taking over cauci with NON-delegates and forcing elected delegates out. (this has been happening in a number of districts). That’s been rampent among the ron paul crowd in my state. word just came down yesterday that santorum’s NATIONAL campaign has ordered his people at our state level to work in concert with ron paul people to continue those unscrupulous shenanigans.
please explain why undermining legally and FAIRLY elected delegates is a good thing? it is coming across like a toddler who is throwing a tantrum because he’s not getting his way. and if he can’t have it, no one can.
How, when I point out the need for changes in the way the nomonee is selected does that equate to a call for “shenanigans”? This isn’t a game, it’s our country and it deserves better leaders than McCain, Dole, Obama and Romney. It’s really that simple.
“[Romney's] nomination means that the Republican Party is profoundly unserious about defending the country and the Constitution.”
This bears repeating.
I and my family will end a 3+ decade active connection with the Republican Party. His nomination means that the Republican Party is profoundly unserious about defending the country and the Constitution. Because Romney will lose.
Well, that’s illogical. So you’re not going to support him, you’re explicitly encouraging other people not to support him, you are clearly hoping that he loses – and you justify your position with, “Because Romney will lose”!
You’re in need of a remedial thinking class.
He has never stood up against the Democrats and the Left in his political career.
~800 vetos from his pen as Governor of Massachusetts with an 80% Democrat legislature now counts as “never standing up to the Democrats”?
The surest sign you are being conned is when a non-emergency is being sold to you as an emergency. Romney is a con man and many of his supporters feel the emergency.
Do you live on Mars?
There is no significant difference between the Republican candidates (other than Paul on foreign policy). Get over yourself.
And apropos your pretentious Latin handle – “all things being equal.” Well they are equal in this case. Enough already.
If all the candidates are the same, why did you bother to comment?
“There is no significant difference between the Republican candidates (other than Paul on foreign policy).”
What? Paul also is for cutting actual spending, not just the rate of increased spending. He’s the most pro-gun candidate. He gets the most donations from active military. Unlike Obama/Romney/Santorum/Gingrich, he’s against the Patriot Act and NDAA. He is serious about wanting to protect the borders. He’s pushed for a full audit of the Fed for 30 years.
He’s never voted for a tax increase. Never voted for an unbalanced budget. Is the only veteran. Wants to eliminate the income tax and the IRS. (You’d think the people who claim they are in the Taxed Enough Already party would love that one, but guess not.)
If Ron Paul isn’t the nominee, Obama will win. And the Republican establishment knows it and doesn’t care. They’d rather give Obama another four years than have incorruptible Ron Paul take all their big-government, big-spending, lobbyist-shilling toys away.
Congressman Tim Johnson of IL: “Ron Paul has more integrity in his little finger than all the rest of us politicians have combined in our entire bodies.”
Romney is a con man
“[Mitt] never takes anything at face value; he can argue any side of a question. And sometimes you think he’s like really believing his argument, but he’s not.” — Ann Romney
Only a fool would trust Mitt Romney.
So is Marco Rubio a con-man? Somebody who has been conned? What?
When the RepubliProgs like Laura Ingram say things like “anybody but Obama”, I know I’m not in that crowd. I wonder if people said things like that about the guy Hitler replaced? “Hey, this guy is so incompetent and indecisive, we need to get ANYONE in there to replace him! Especially someone who’s strong, charismatic, a LEADER!”
Unfortunately, I didn’t really read through the Federalist Papers till after Obama was elected. I thought I understood the Constitution, but it’s taken 3 years and a self-education in history, economics and political philosophy to make me understand how dangerous all of this nonsense really is.
Vote Romney, and you don’t have to worry any more about Obama, children. That’s right. Just go back to sleep, because now we have a “good” leader. We have the “right” leader. Not like that yucky old, bad leader we had before. Everything is better now. Shhhh. Go to sleep again.
I WILL NOT COMPLY.
I’m not afraid of your name-calling, or your pandering, or your wheedling.
I WILL NOT COMPLY.
I’m not going to vote for anyone who thinks “GOVERNMENT” is the answer to a problem ever again.
I WILL NOT COMPLY.
Freedom must be our default mode of operation, folks. Not OUR freedom, but the freedom of our neighbor. In every situation, you must ask yourself – “Does this make my neighbor more free, or less free?” Only when your neighbor’s freedom impinges on your own does it hit its limit. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what business is it of mine?
I WILL NOT COMPLY.
Rigid ideology is a luxury for those who are free or those who hold absolute power.
It appears Jaycen is having a Howard Dean moment, comical.
“Be careful if you think you stand
You just might be sinking”
That line from Casting Crowns reminds me of the GOP.
And trust me, whoever even only hints at not voting for the anti-Obama candidate that we will have, is a democrat.
The blogs were full of “super-conservatives” in 08. They were democrats. They gave us the regime.
Kool, you are voting for an anti-obama. Good to know you will not vote for Romney either.
Kuddos.
Looks like it is Gary Johnson then.
Dear Mr. Tyler.
You’re doing a bang up job. Please keep up the good work getting your candidate exposure through the tour of zoos across America.
Yours Truly,
A Guy who voted for a guy you dont work for.
Dear Myra Adams,
THE PRIMARIES AREN’T OVER.
SO, TAKE YOUR OWN D*MNED ADVICE:
“Now all you disgruntled Republicans out there, repeat this quote twice in the morning and once at bedtime.
Trust me, you will feel better.”
Your anti-American attitude of wanting those who have not yet voted to “surrender/fuggedaboutit” disgusts me.
Please stick your arrogance and presumptuousness where the sun don’t shine.
Care to make a bet as to who the nominee will be? I’ll take Romney. Who will you take?
The primaries may not be over, but their ability to change the outcome is. Romney is going to be the nominee. The best case for the not-Romney candidates is to deny him the nomination outright. In which case Romney will simply offer one of the other candidates a deal, probably involving a cabinet position and platform planks, to secure enough delegates to win. Failing that, do you really think the people running the GOP convention (the very DEFINITION of the establishment) are going to simultaneously ignore the plurality of the party and nominate someone significantly more conservative than Romney?
If you want to live in a fantasy world, join the Democrats. Those of us who live and work in the real world are accepting the crappy situation we’re in and working to keep it from getting any worse by defeating Obama.
The establishment does not run the Convention; the delegates do. They have their own agenda.
Who, precisely, makes up this “establishment” which all you paranoid conspiracymongers are so afraid of?
Is Marco Rubio “the establishment”? Is Tom Coburn “the establishment”? Mike Lee? Christine O’Donnell?
The size of the party which would represent the views of the “anti-establishment” crowd around here might, perhaps, manage to elect one US Congressman. There is one Ron Paul, isn’t there?
Steve, you just dont get it. As a foreigner, it seems clear: Th e Tea Party movement is fed up and sick to death of RINOs and other empty suits who hustle the game and give cash to their backers, the whole political machine that is the US as it stands today. Be they Republican or Democrat, nice hair and empty phrases just dont cut it in the ege of teh internetz.
As detestable as Romney is, he’ll make better S.Ct. picks than Dear Liar. And we can use his weather vaning by giving him a more conservative Congress. If he thinks the country is going in that direction, he’ll tack that way. And a second term Obowmao would veto a Paul Ryan budget, but Mittens will sign it.
Then just primary him in 4 years. We’ve gone deep in the lefty hole, it’s going to take time to get out.
i agree up to a point
there have been many recent republican presidents that have nominated some of the most liberal supreme court justices on the bench
At this point in the process, (Personal opinion), – Santorum & especially Gingrich are showing themselves to be petty and winers. Although their supporters may not hold them accountable for a looming disaster of a floor fight at the Tampa soiree the power structure & history will undoubtedly do so.
Rick, Newt its time to pack it in and get on board the GOP love train. Or you will be eating political coal dust for the remainder for your careers. “O” is the target, the only target and this is the most important election our country has ever had.
Get off you soap boxes and roll up your sleeves and help “US” remove the cancer that is “O” growing on our republic.
Check “6″
Yes, the primaries must continue, even if we concede that Romney is odds-on to take the nomination. For one thing, depending on the final delegate counts, they’re likely to have a significant effect on how Romney campaigns. (e.g., he might finally be dragged into admitting that RomneyCare was a mistake.) For another, the remaining candidates are striving for influence at the convention. Each of them has a pet issue or two; the number of delegates a candidate gets could determine whether his positions will be accorded any respect.
Oh, and there’s this: Romney hasn’t yet got 1144 delegates. So regardless of all other considerations, the primaries, and the competition for the nomination, must continue.
After reading some of these comments, it’s apparent there are some idiots left over in the Republican party who were responsible for the pompous ass being in the White House.
Not backing an opposing candidate, no matter who it might be is self depredating and despicable. Their behavior is like the immature brad being spiteful for not getting his way.
I was an idiot in 2008. I voted for McCain, thereby helping Obama win. After that, I learned my lesson…oppose Progressives!
I voted for McCain, thereby helping Obama win.
That is wince-inducing stupidity right there.
If only you’d voted for Bill Clinton, it would have helped Bob Dole to win. Or something.
If Romney is a slam dunk then he shouldn’t need our backing at this moment.
So why are you looking for it Myra?
You want me to turn my back on my republican principles and vote for a man who is damn near as far left as Barry Sorento?
Dude!
Your comment reveals you to be out on the skinny tail of the political distribution. In order to have any kind of political influence you’re going to need allies. This is not the way to go about getting them.
Of course, if your intention is to simply throw a temper tantrum while being ignored, by all means carry on.
Jeff, mostly true. I’m a republican of the olde order, not much given to bastardizing the Constitution and one who proudly gives a ‘hooray’ for the founders and Randolph and a few others. The idea of a limited general gummint is sacrosanct; the states and the individual can solve the vast majority of their problems…and, so forth. Of course, that’s the ‘skinny tail’ but being right has its advantages. Politics and principles/morals are kindred spirits, or at least the Greeks thought so.
I agree with most of your positions. The difference between us is I actually want to see those positions become policy. I recognize that the majority of the population has a different vision for the country and that I need to convince them to change their minds. While that is going on the metronome of elections keeps ticking and I have to do my best with what the real world offers.
Your principles and $1 will get you a cup of coffee. Quit whining, grab the line, and heave.
Jeff, not whining at all, but neither will I support a GOP statist anymore then a Alinsky, Kenyan Marxist. In the end, principles/morals are all we have.
As Romney himself might say, “We shall fight conservative principles in the primaries, we shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight them in the cities, on the plains and in the mountains, we shall give lip service to them during the general election, but we shall never surrender to them.”
NOPE…not gonna vote for Romney. Won’t vote for Obama either.
We won’t ever get the candidate we want if we keep going along with the GOP Establishment. What does that get us?…a long trail of Presidential defeats.
We want a REAL Reagan conservative and I’m not voting for a Republican again until we GET ONE! And don’t give us any more Bushes again, EVER!
I don’t want 4 more years of Obama and that’s why Conservatives demand a true Conservative that has the balls to take it to him and beat his a$$ in the election.
OK, cool, Romney is the, well, best of all possible evils in an imperfect world. I can understand why he thought the state compelling someone to enter into commerce at the federal level so the feds can than regulate that commerce without any limits was cool at the time–it’s sort of like a federal military draft, but with draft exemptions for the privileged that he got to experience in his youth. What I don’t understand is if it’s bad for the feds to force people, free citizens, to enter into commerce without any limiting principle to that tyranny, why is it then good for the fifty states to get to exercise that same unlimited tyranny? So far Mr. Wonderful, the technocrat, the man for all seasons has been entirely silent on that evil that he so cavalierly entertains for others, but an evil when an if instituted will never apply to his twenty million a year ass, among other similarly situated. Hate to say it, but it looks like the iron law oligarchy to me. So, to put it in an 1860 political context, it’s not OK for the feds to force slave purchases to better regulate the market in slaves among the citiznes, but it’s OK for the fifty states to mandate the purchase of slaves?
What I don’t understand is if it’s bad for the feds to force people, free citizens, to enter into commerce without any limiting principle to that tyranny, why is it then good for the fifty states to get to exercise that same unlimited tyranny?
Another “conservative” who never heard of the Tenth Amendment or a republican form of government.
Romney is a symptom of the disease GOP voters have had for many years. They will not fight. They talk only to themselves. They ignore today’s opportunity to look at the opportunity that comes later. Any excuse to do little or nothing now while pretending they will act like a hero in the future. All action is to be taken by someone else. No crap sandwich is too odious to be avoided.
Boehner and David Drier stopped an effort in The House Rules Committee to repeal ObamCare within a month of it’s passing. Boehner is busy punishing TEA Party and Conservatives in preference for RINOs.
Nobody throws more cold water on GOP voters and GOP voters have picked the weakest candidate since Ford or Dole. They will not fight and now they will lose. We may not have more chances and we will not have peace.
Hey, Ms. Adams, I have seen many articles from you supporting Romney. How about you write an article against Romney… you know, just as an exercise? Label it as such and publish it. Then you might have a little insight into why so many of us find this resistance-is-futile-you-will-be-absorbed message so offensive.
Mitt Romney would be Presidential in every way—if he had substance.
He has money, looks, a firm chin, a steely glint, a nice dye job, a bit of a political executive record. All he lacks is anything—anything at all—to get anyone excited about him.
Maybe the idea is to follow up the historic First Black President with the historic First Android President.
You forgotted the Mormons. They have considerable experience with ringing doorbells. Once he’s got the nomination, they will rush forth from Salt Lake city. And they’ll be clean-cut, unlike Obama’s #occupiers.
I think you all are all are crazy. Mitt Romney will make a fine president. He is the only proven candidate who has the experience and the ability to take the White House.
Yeah, Flip Romney will make a fine President…. if you are a socialist.
Exactly how many Papist do you need in our government? They already greatly over represent in the Supreme Court…we have to also hand over the Executive. No thanks.
“Papist”…LOL.
You really display your bigotry there.
I do not care for Flip Romney because he is no anti-obama… but rather is an obama mini-me.
You , however, seemed glued to sniffing his magic underwear.
Get a grip, we both worship God, you in your way.. and I in His.
I’m with Rick Tyler
Fight Obama to the death for another four years or spend four years fighting Republicans in Congress to force Romney to govern as other than the left of center squish he’s been most of his life.
Well, if it is Romney, what choice do we have? All you people out there who say you won’t vote for Romney or will leave the Republican Party, all you’re doing is voting for four more years of Obama by NOT voting. Do you really, really, want to do that? If you do, then you really don’t have the nation’s best interest at heart. If you’d rather see an idiot like Obama have four more years, then don’t come crying to me if he gets re-elected and ends up destroying what’s left of this country. Look, we are having primaries. The way it works is that if you win the primaries, you win the nomination. Simple, right? If Romney wins the primaries he’s the man, whether you like it or not. I was a big, big, fan of Michele Bachmann. She lost. Do you see me screaming into the night and threatening not to vote for Romney? No. As the Marines say, “What we have is what we’ve got,” and you do the best with what you’ve got.
You people are also forgetting about Congress. If we can vote in more conservative members of Congress, like we did in 2010, we could actually create laws that would force Romney to go into a more conservative direction. And I doubt Romney would have the stones to veto a bill coming out of a Conservative Congress. That would never happen.
So if Romney is the moninee, hold your nose and vote Republican. If we also have a conservative Republican majority in Congress, we can get some real reforms done. Hold onto that and vote.
We will not get a Senate with 60 non-Progressives. As such, we will not get bills passed by Congress that are vigorously opposed by Progressives (e.g., conservative bills). I know that it is radical, but I believe the answer to our Progressive problem lies in the first two and the 10th Amendments to our Constitution. I will never vote for a Progressive candidate.
I am a conservative and I will vote my conscience. In the primaries, Romney wasn’t my first choice but against Obama Romney is clearly the more palatable choice. I don’t feel a need to punish the GOP and vote against Romney, because that would be petty and stupid. My punishment of the GOP is that I don’t give them money any more – I send checks to specific candidates instead. And this Republican angst is oppressive. Chill out, folks. The Democrats don’t have a perfect candidate, either. Think back on the previous elections – primaries on both sides are so full of hand wringing, but ultimately a candidate is selected and folks unite behind him/her.
Pardon me for saying this, but the choice between Obama and Romney is really a choice, to me, which equals having to eat fecies or a ‘mud pie’. It’s really a bad one..
I can’t really decide what I want to do in that circumstance: Obama is a MARXIST and the worst President I have seen, however Romney is basically a liberal Democrat, who I can’t trust, and get a weird feeling about the guy.
It will take a lot of prayer to know what I am going to do on election day Nov 2012 (vote for the rom, or not vote/vote 3rd party)!
One thing that could derail the Republicans is if nominees stay in the race too long. Once it becomes apparent that a nominee has no plausible chance of success, he should bow out. Anything else distracts the party from the real task at hand, and increases the chance that the presidential nominee looks like “damaged goods”.
Bottom line: Gingrich and Paul, thanks for your input but take some time off. Kick back. Drink beer. Watch a little baseball.
Agreed, ALL of them should drop out so we can start with a clean slate at the convention, at least then there might be a chance of offering a viable alternative to the voters. If Romney is so “inevitable” he would of course be drafted. . . right??????
Leaving aside the fact that this is the dumbest idea I’ve heard of – who do you think your brokered convention should select? A list of three of four possible candidate would be good.
Okay, I’ll give it a shot.
1) Governor Bobby Jindal – He just won re-election… during the primaries, because he took 66% of the vote. Nice, quiet, non-charismatic, non-threatening, and very competent.
2) Senator Jim DeMint – Quiet, competent, and a big leader of the Tea Party.
3) Sarah Palin – Rock Star. She has the organization, and she is the Queen of fund-raising. Huge with the Tea Party.
4) Former CO Gov. Bill Owens – Best Governor in the country 2002. Highest re-election in CO history. Knowledgeable about energy, economics, taxes, AND foreign affairs, especially regarding Russia and China. Age 61. Bio:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Owens_%28Colorado_politician%29
5) Gov. McDonnell VA – Turned the State around in one year. Two years of surpluses. Immensely popular. Would carry VA for sure, a real plus, since it is one of the States Obama thinks he can win. At least make him VP.
Bill Owens would be my choice.
So, does that answer your challenge?
Marc,
We’ve often disagreed here at PJ on other subjects, but I agree wholeheartedly with your list and would add Allen West to it.
It occurs to me that if a professional sports team (even college teams) can actively recruit the best players then the GOP could/should do the same. It’s nonsense to think the team can be competitive using only those who “walk on” and can afford to bring their own bat and ball.
Palin? The person who endorsed and voted for Gingrich? Yah, real “Taxed Enough Already party.” Ron Paul has never voted for a tax increase, never voted for an unbalanced budget, wants to cut a trillion dollars of waste his first year, balance the budget in three years, has pushed for a full audit of The Fed for 30 years, wants to eliminate the entire income tax and IRS… and who does the fake Taxed Enough Already party get behind? Gingrich and Santorum. Absolutely ridiculous and shows just how fake the corrupted TEA party now is.
Ron Paul supporters founded the Tea Party in 2007. The videos are right there on Youtube. Then the big-government neocons corrupted it and took it (mostly) over.
Fake conservatives can’t even use Paul’s dislike for undeclared wars as a negative anymore since now Gingrich and other warhawks have started saying things like we need to rethink our entire foreign policy and that being in countries like Afghanistan is probably counterproductive. Wow, what a “crazy” and “kooky” foreign policy thing to say!
Actually, Ronald Reagan promoted a more non-interventionist policy after the Marines were killed in Beirut. He even said so in his book. But of course all the fake conservatives can’t be bothered with things like that.
Pieces like this illustrate why Romney is so lame.
The unhinged responses to the article illustrate why “going rogue” is not only a loser but the act of political saboteurs.
Those who complain that we have ended up with Romney should just shut up. When Bachmann was still running you had your chance to support a candidate whose conservatism was impeccable and whose uncommonly strong character should have been obvious to everyone. Yet you trampled her beneath your hooves. You mindlessly accepted the media line that Bachmann isn’t sufficiently intelligent to be President, apparently not having noticed that she spoke more intelligently on foreign policy than any of her opponents. Her insulting distant-sixth finish in Iowa is a worrying commentary on the quality of the Republican electorate. Even Romney seems almost too good for such a public!
I supported Bachmann. You are right about her! Unfortunately Mr. Perry and the MSM (including the so called “conservative” msm) rallied to destroy her.
So I don’t want to hear your “Shut up”.
I’ve noticed that I never see “JustAl” or “Ed Wallis” commenting on any threads other than ones about the primary. They have nothing to say about Obamacare, or Fast and Furious, or Trayvon Martin. They are single issue commenters. And their single issue seems to be getting Obama reelected.
Then you aren’t looking very hard Steveie, I could say the same about you and the other paid Romney cheerleaders. There are at least three other threads on the front page at PJ I’ve commented on today.
You sir/ or madame are grasping at straws. You can also see my posts at Newsbusters, Moonbattery, IHatethemedia and Flopping Aces, I’ve commented on all of them, for years.
So, let’s take ‘em one at a time: Obamacare, based according to it’s authors on Romneycare, which your candidate has called something he’s really proud of. Fast and Furious, obviously a ploy to limit our second amendment rights, something your employer who is “proud of Massachusetts gun laws” probably would like to see done. I recall that last election his position was that was a long time “hunter”, of course we all know that hunting has nothing to do with the 2nd amendment. Then there’s the Martin case, a criminal/civil case that frankly has no place in political discussion, although the leftist media and democratic demagoguery surrounding it certainly does. To his credit, as far as I know Romney hasn’t said anything yet (probably waiting for a poll).
YOU sir are the one who’s working to get Obama re-elected, or at least continue down the path to socialism with his somewhat paler cousin Romney. I won’t accuse you of being a leftist, but you certainly use their playbook.
Come back when you have an argument other than “he’s not as bad as the other guy” and “they don’t agree with me so they must be liberals”.
YOU sir are the one who’s working to get Obama re-elected,
Yes, obviously the person who is saying that we should vote for the Republican nominee is “working to get Obama re-elected”, while the person who is urging everyone not to vote for him is doing everything in his power to defeat Obama. It’s just so clearly self-evident, isn’t it?
Since you appear to be a paranoid person obsessed with me why not scoot over to Newsbusters.org. Unlike PJ they have a bio section where you can read all about me and read all of my posts for the last three years. Knock yourself out, no, seriously, please do knock yourself out.
That is not any sort of response to the point I made.
I and the one calling on people to vote for the Republican against Obama. YOU are the one calling for all four Republican candidates to drop out and be replaced by a candidate selected by a brokered convention. You are the one working hard here to get Obama re-elected, not me.
Fast and Furious, obviously a ploy to limit our second amendment rights, something your employer who is “proud of Massachusetts gun laws” probably would like to see done.
In the same sense that you “probably” have kiddie porn on your computer.
I can certainly see that the Romney team brings maturity to the table. You might want to consider stepping away from the keyboard, you’re bleeding badly.
You are the one who decided that the word “probably” allowed you to just make up whatever garbage crossed your mind and attribute it to other people. Don’t cry if your own rules turn out to bite you.
What a loser comment.
TYPICAL of Romney and Obama supporters: invalidate by criticizing the messenger.
Ad Hominem.
Up yours, Steve.
Furthermore, you’re wrong. You don’t seem to read many threads, and haven’t been around here long, or you’d know better than to throw around such remarks.
Up yours, Steve.
Defend Romney.
Give a to-date non-supporter one substantial, persuasive reason to support Mittens.
Waiting…
Up yours, Steve.
We live in a complex world where the impact of regulations on business and the cost and dislocations of a growing public sector need to be addressed. I want a nominee who has excellent academic credentials in business and law.
I want a Republican nominee who is an unabashed supporter of free enterprise capitalism. I want as nominee someone who understands business; someone who has a record of phenomenal record of success in the private sector would be too much to ask for.
As a conservative I want a nominee who has an exemplary family life.
I want a nominee who is a proven executive; someone who knows how to organize and fund raise and run hard and yet can work with the opposition, if he doesn’t have a super majority in the Senate (the House being safe).
I want a nominee who will attract moderates and independents to our cause of reduced spending balanced budgets, smaller government and debt reduction.
A nominee who is a self made turn around artist would be a godsend. But it’s unrealistic to expect we could have a nominee with all of these qualities.
Oh, wait.
Since I have been old enough to vote we get socialism fast with Dems and socialism slow with Repubs and I am tired of it. I will NEVER VOTE FOR A RINO AGAIN…. I dont know what Romeny believes since he has been on both sides of every issue….
I want a President who supports and defends the Constitution. Who realizes that while the role of a businessman is to grow the business and it’s revenues that the Federal Government IS NOT A BUSINESS and has, in fact been run like one (albeit poorly) for far too long.
I want a President who puts America’s interests FIRST, not the UN’s and their climate change scam.
I want a President who will not send out military to do nation building with their hands tied behind their backs.
I want a President committed to the elimination of ALL federal departments, bureaus, and agencies not absolutely necessary to the SPECIFIED responsibilities of the federal government.
Unfortunately, unless we can draft someone like Col. West at the convention I won’t get it. But, frankly, Romney doesn’t even resemble what I want.
I read the things you want in a President. Ron Paul is already running. He also has a lot more delegates than the media gives him credit for because they count delegates based on straw wins and not actual delegates (many of which are unbound). If the convention goes to a second round, all delegates become unbound and can then vote for their conscience. And if the convention goes to a second round, I think a lot of people are going to be in for a big surprise.
Ron Paul spoke in Madison, WI yesterday. 5200 people showed up. Biden spoke in Milwaukee, WI at the same time. 200 people showed up. Does the news report that a presidential candidate keeps getting huge crowds everywhere he goes and there’s pictures of those huge crowds on the internet? Nope. It’s their job to black him out. See “Ron Paul vs. The Honest Mistake” video for more.
Look at the blatant GOP caucus corruption in Athens, GA and St. Charles, MO. The Chair(s) blatantly refusing the will of the people and then later two of them even admit to what they did. And there’s an interview of a head St. Charles guy in 2008 admitting he tried to get all the delegates thrown out because HE didn’t like who they supported. But does anyone care about such blatant election corruption? Nope.
Take a look at how many delegates Paul actually likely has. This ain’t over till it’s over.
Everybody quit pouting and just vote for and back up whoever the candidate
is – in every way possible!! The object is to get Obama out of the WH regardless of who gets him out. You can worry later about trustworthiness and trying to hold a new prez’s feet to the fire.
This is the one and only last chance and its coming up real soon. If you don’t vote GOP because you can’t stomach Romney well then you don’t give a damn about the country so you might as well be a complete traitor and cross over to the other side and give Obama your vote.
Right. Pass the bill so we can see what’s in it, seems like I’ve heard that before. Sorry Arnold, this is the side where people think for themselves instead of just backing the party line. In fact, since name calling is your thing you might actually be more comfortable over there.
101% behind what JustAl said….he’s right on the money.
Harumph!
Myra,
I have backed every candidate that the stupid Republicans have ever thrown up against a Democrat, no matter my personal distate for them. But this is the one time where I’m drawing the line, Romney is a no-go, no matter what. The only thing I like about him, is that’s he’s a car guy, as in classic cars. And that’s about it.
Romney is the bridge too far. I can’t cross it, and obviously, you must realize there are a whole bunch more folks like me in the Republican party, hence the writing of this unconvincing plea to support a candidate that many of us detest.
Why this distaste? Because so many of us can’t believe a word the man says. I don’t for a minute believe he’s a conservative, or even close to one. He’s just like his father, and from the actual public track record he’s left behind, he’s far worst than George. Choosing between Obama and Romney is like having to choose Karl Marx vs Friedrich Engles. And again, I’m basing this on their actual public record, not the bullsh!t that comes out of their mouths.
If you want to convince us, you are going to have to do a lot better than tell us the obvious fact that he’s our only choice. We already know that, and are still not convinced.
God Bless you. I knew there had to be more out there like me. Romney is a No-Go.
Obamney.
Rombama.
I can’t tell the difference between their policies. Why switch horses JUST to switch horses? That’s inefficient. With all the turmoil of changing out cabinets, etc, we won’t even notice till half-way through Romney’s term that he’s nearly completed what Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama started.
Nah, I’d rather keep all the players in their current positions, where I’m already familiar with their patterns and moves.
Right on.
‘Romney will lose and the GOP will learn its lesson.’
‘McCain will lose and the GOP will learn its lesson.’
‘Padme will lose and the Republic will learn its lesson.’
I love watching you troglodytes. Obama will win about 45 states and coast comfortably to the president. He will then send you jokers to the Hague and bring our constitution in line with the civilized world. The juvenile depredations of our zoolike congress will be replaced by the serious governance of the United Nations
I love the fact that this article quotes Rumsfeld on the Iraq war. I noticed that nobody seems to be saying that Romney “will be greeted as liberators”.
The general feeling towards Romney at the moment is “We must defeat Obama and Mitt is the only candidate we have.” That sure gets people excited about Romney!
Seriously, my prediction (and this far out my prediction is as worthless as anybody else’s) is the Romney will lose, Congress will stay Republican and the Senate is a toss-up. If Romney can keep it together, Mr. Etch-A-Sketch might not lose too many Congressional seats and the Senate might go Republican despite him. Great!
Some day somebody might come up with a reason to vote for Mitt. Right now all I’ve heard is “He’s not Obama.” You could say the same thing about me and I’m not sure I’d vote for me for President. I always vote, but I might be leaving the Presidential vote blank this year. I’m still shopping and I don’t think I’m buying Mitt Romney.
You voted for Obama last time and you’ll vote for him again this time.
This is why your candidate is a loser. There is no politically intelligible or inspiring response to critique of the hollow, fraudulent and demoralizing Romney candidacy other than to assert critics are Obama supporters (or treacherous nihilists to be blamed for Romney’s defeat). How many times have we seen this?
Yawn.
Here is “Northern Light”, ultra-conservative all-Republicans-are-RINO’s I’m-not-going-to-vote-GOP-this-time commenting on the Trayon Martin case.
1. We’re talking about a black kid wearing a hoodie walking through a gated community.
2. The shooter was white.
3. The police did not feel this case warrents an investigation or trial.</i.
Did you really think this only happens in Mississippi?
He already slipped and blew his cover. Now that I’ve posted this I’m sure he will “disappear” and continue to post his “we should not vote Republican this year” crapola under a different name.
Ho hum,
Here is “SteveM” pointing out that when I commented on a previous post I called it as I saw it rather than follow the party line. Obviously I am some sort of socialist trying to throw a monkey wrench in a comment section.
I am old enough to remember when China was a communist country. Back then they had an event called The Cultural Revolution where anyone who stepped an inch past the state’s definition of Marxism was branded as a traitor and forced to recant, be sent to the countryside for forced labor, killed, or a combination of the three.
Never thought it would happen here.
Steve, I’ll call it as I see it. I will continue to comment through the election. If I am wrong and President Romney has a GOP Senate and Congress to keep him on the straight and narrow I will also do something few seem to do in politics. I will comment here that I was wrong.
Until then I say Romney has been set up to lose. The Senate is a toss-up but Congress will remain Republican.
By the way, did you go back far enough to see that I supported Michele Bachmann? Sure she needs more experience (her campaign proved that), but with a little more time and possibly a Senate run, Bachmann could be back in 2016. After all, the 2016 race will be wide open because there won’t be an incumbant President running.
Just calling it as I see it.
You’ll hear from me again.
when I commented on a previous post I called it as I saw it rather than follow the party line.
The next time I see you “follow the party line” will also be the first time I see it.
At least, this is the case if the party in question is the Republican Party. If we’re talking Democratic Party, then you never deviate from the party line.
>”I will continue to comment through the election.”
And you will continue to support Obama through the election.
“2. The shooter was white.”
Funny how the news and some people can be, isn’t it. Under any other circumstances, Zimmerman would be called hispanic. If he went to Mars, he’d be called the first hispanic on Mars. If he was trying to get preferential treatment from a government program, he’d be called hispanic. But when he shoots a black person, suddenly he’s a white guy.
to assert critics are Obama supporters
An awful lot of them are,
One tip off is that they hate the entire Republican party, not just Romney. Here are some comments from these people pulled just from this thread.
What in the world I have ever posted makes you in any way think that I think Rubio is anything but a RINO?
There’s still a chance to get someone who didn’t get stamped out of the same machine as Obama/Romney/Santorum/Gingrich/Bush/Clinton/Huntsman, Jr., etc. All those guys are really the same guy, with a different mask. Regardless, Progs aren’t getting my money or my support.
Notice what is going on here? Not only is Romney supposedly indistinguishable from Obama, but Gingrich and Santorum and Rubio and basically the entire GOP are indistinguishable from Obama as well.
And I’m supposed to believe that the people saying this stuff are genuinely anxious to see Obama lose in November? Get real.
You are correct Steve, 100%. American Thinker recently had an article about liberals invading one of their threads. Whew, looks like they are out in full force here.
Romney will get his delegates and he will defeat Obama. Rasmuessen and Gallop show them running very close.
The anti Romney hatred here better go back and listen to Obama’s open mic conversation with the Russian.
One obvious dividing point between Obama and Romney.
Obama’s a blatant racist. There’s hardly a racist bone in Romney’s body.
I’m not saying there’s not a racist bone in America’s body. I’m just saying, in Obama’s body they all are. All 206 of them.
I have a dream.
On one of their propaganda shows, I’d love to say what I said in the headline to Eddie Schultz, or Larry O’Donnell or Marty Bashir because I know what their next words would be; the same words all the progressives run with whenever they’re confronted with such an outlandish truism.
“What’s your evidence, Rachel? How can you say that with a straight face? Where’s your proof.”
At that point, the trap would be sprung.
No leftist is ready to address a discussion of the nature of racism and evidence of it. They’d lose.
To the Neo-Coms (new Democratic communists)racism is their political life blood.
Leave it to brassy, ballsy Rachel to upset the leftist rotten apple cart.
Incidentally, remember a few years ago when a White Sox announcer at a ball game asked the anointed on for proof he was really a White Sox fan?
“Who in the old Comisky Park, might we ask”, said the announcer, “was your favorite player.”
I can’t remember what Mr. Teleprompter Man said. It could have very well been, “what’s your evidence I had a favorite player?” The Prez said the White Sox were his favorite team yet he couldn’t think of Fox,or Aparicio, or Landis, or Billy Piece, or Minoso? Give me a brake.
Of course, the White Sox gaffe doesn’t say Obama’s a racist. Just an accumulator of Frequent Liar Miles.
But back to my allegation that Barack is the most racist President in American history. Which leads me to another delicioius Obama irony. The brown eyed handsome man was elected at a point in American history when the vast majority of Americans were even ready to get rid of the poison of whispered racism.
When Obama would pontificate during his campaign for president in 2007, one of his favorite lies was something to the effect that, “TO ME, BARACK OBAMA I SEE NO RED STATES OR BLUE STATES BUT JUST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN. I CAN PICTURE BO getting back to his hotel with a small coterie of hucksters laughing it up, talking about the nonsense filling the speech he just made. None of which they believed. All of which they believed gullible white America would swallow whole.
“Obama, sorry buddy, but the United States of America has had a taste of you and we’re ready to spit you out.” But Eddie and Larry and Bashir don’t hear Rachel’s Obama racist detection alarm; they know only one tune.
“Evidence”, “Where’s your evidence, Rachel?”
“Well, I do declare,” says Ms. Peepers, “Do the thugs at MSNBC know what evidence is? I don’t think so.
See, evidence comes in many forms, and means different things depending on its place and legal purpose.” (Albany Law School, 1970)
It’s what’s presented at a trial when, for instance, we’re in the process of proving Eric Holder was lying through his pearly whites when he denied knowledge of Operation Fast and Furious.(If we could get him to trail before Obama pardons him), we could present what’s called direct evidence.
Incidentally, Fast and furious is the speed at which the White House makes up lies to defend themselves against direct evidence, saying how they see, hear and speak no evil.
Or by evidence are the leftists neo-coms (neo communists) referring to evidence necessary to make a prima facie case; to establish probable cause that Obama and Co. are card carrying racists? They never tell us. And we want to know precisely what they’re thinking.
Permit me now to offer some examples just to remind everybody that the racism I’m talking about is the kind that fills each of Obama’s 206 bones to the marrow.
Feb. 18, 2009, Holder announces in first major speech that “all white men are racist cowards”. White men in huge numbers had just helped elect a black man for the first time as President, and Holder spews racism?
That’s exactly what he did, including all military men at war, putting their lives on the line, fighting for his right to call the entire U.S. male population racist.
Of course, Obama got into his racist demonstrations even earlier than that.
On inauguration day, the anointed one specified he wanted no white bands marching past the reviewing stand. “Now, Rachel”, I can hear somebody say, “how to you know he said that?” Well, if you watched TV that day, you saw all black bands. A coincidence?
And, by the way, did you see and hear the young African American men in the first few public audience rows boo Bush when he walked out?
Did you know Obama staff (labor union thugs) paid them to do that? Again, that smacks to lil ol’ Rachel of blatant racism.
Since then, Obama’s poured forth with racist comment after racist comment.
Remember, “Let my people go”, Obama referring to the Black Panther voter intimidators, who the justice department had dead to rights. Holder and Obama didn’t want to ruffle any black feathers so they let the black goons with billyclubs go scot free. Christian Adams, a justice dept. lawyer, as you know, blew the racist whistle about this and quit his job. Obama and Holder told the other white lawyers on the case they’d be fired if they didn’t toe the line; in other words, clam up like lying turds.
And when the Black Panthers in Florida in the Trevon Martin case issue a bounty for Zimmerman dead or alive, did Holder arrest the criminal Panthers who issued the bounty? No.
Talk about blatant racism.
I don’t want to take up all you time. So I’ll just make a couple more racist points.
Imagine if Ron Paul announced a national campaign called ‘Whites for Ron Paul’ — he’d be vilified as a racist. And yet Barack Obama has done the equivalent of precisely that with his launch of ‘African Americans for Obama’. The old vote for the color of my skin mantra because it’s the same as yours.
Not only is Obama playing the race card in an attempt to pressure black Americans into voting for him, he is also violating the separation between church and state. In the video promo for the campaign, Obama urges black people to pressure churches into supporting his administration by getting his message out via “the faith community”. He also calls on voters to become “congregation captains”….
“I thought race didn’t matter Mr. President?” asks Chad Hasty. “I don’t think MLK would be too pleased with you at all, telling blacks to vote based solely on skin color. African-Americans for Obama? Give me a break. Under this Presidency, more blacks are unemployed. More blacks are on food stamps. If I had to bet, though, Obama will still pull 93% of the black vote. Again, just a wild guess.” …(Cameron Wiltshire, Feb.24,2012,Blog,“Disinformation”)
Back to Rachel.
Obama the hard core racist.
Take Channon Christian and Christopher Newsome for evidence. Slaughtered by black savages. Did Obama call their families? Did he empathize with Channon’s parents because Obama has daughters of his own? You know the answer to that.
You see, Obama has black daughters and Channon, brutalized beyond description was white. So her parents didn’t get a jingle. Not so much as an email.
Imagine, all the non-phone calls to all the whites slaughtered by blacks. And Obama’s racist example has even seeped into NFL sports.
Who’d a thunk it? The most blatantly racist President of the United States and the most blatantly racist NFL coach are unified at the brown lip, (Lovie Smith, “vote for Obama, he’s black, not for Romney, he’s white”).
But that’s not all they have in common.
Both of these racists come from the same city, Chicago. The city with broad shoulders has Obama’s back. The city that makes a science out of political corruption, also makes racism an art form.
Rachel’s conclusion: I was brokenhearted when Alan West not only didn’t run but didn’t even answer my letters. But I still think he’d make a great President. I’m white with blue eyes; he’s black with brown. But I like the content of his character.
I would never vote for Obama. Not just because he doesn’t like me because I’m white, but because his character has no content. He’s just another bum from the neighborhood.
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Well written and quiet accurate. Even by his own admission (if he actually wrote the book he’s credited with), The Ollyone has always relied on racism to get ahead. It’s hard for me to decide if he’s a racist who believes in Marx or a Marxist who uses racism, more likely he’s somewhere in between.
My heart goes out to Americans who happen to be black, because this yo-yo has done them great harm.
“He will rule as much as possible… Um, we do not have “rulers” in the USA!
Marco Rubio is constitutionally ineligible for the presidency, so why on earth would he be nominated for the position of successor if something happens to the president?
Neither one of Marco Rubio’s parents were citizens of this country when he was born.
It’s as if everyone wants to pretend there is no natural born citizen clause in the Constitution. Sorry, folks, there is, and just because the idiots in Washington have allowed one usurper into the office does not change that fact in any way, nor does it make it ok for the Republicans to submit a candidate who could possibly be called to fill in for POTUS who is ineligible.
It seems as if the Republicans choose to ignore the Constitution just as much as the Democrats, and they all have violated their oaths of office by not vetting the current resident of the White House.
God bless the Constitutional Republic of America!
Romney: TARP, Patriot Act, NDAA, gun-grabber
Santorum: Patriot Act, NDAA, TSA, bedroom police
Gingrich: TARP, Patriot Act, NDAA
Ron Paul: The Constitution
Oath Keepers: “To be blunt, we consider the NDAA of 2012 to be a declaration of war on the American people, and an act of treason.”
Hmm, which candidate for the Patriot Act and NDAA and big-government should I vote for? Obama, Romney, Santorum, or Gingrich?
The fact that the “Taxed Enough Already” party and other supposed “small-government conservatives” have turned on the most constitutional guy, most small-government guy, most pro-gun guy, most low-taxes guy, most cut-spending guy, most audit The Fed guy, the only veteran, etc, in the race, shows how hypocritical and FAKE they are.
This can again be seen by “small-government conservatives” love for all things Paul Ryan. TARP, Patriot Act, NDAA, budgets that add trillions to the debt and don’t balance the budget until the year 2040…. I guess if all this big-government stuff has an “R” in front of the name, it must be ok, right!?
If the convention goes to a second round and all delegates become unbound, Ron Paul has a much better shot than the media gives him credit for. If Romney wins the nomination, then Obama wins. The really sad part is the GOP knows this. But they’d rather have four more years of Obama than to have incorruptible Ron Paul cut some actual spending and take all their big-government toys away.
Heck, warhawks can’t even criticize Paul’s foreign policy anymore now that Newt and the like have said things like we need to rethink our entire foreign policy and that being in countries like Afghanistan is probably counterproductive. Ron Paul predicted the housing bubble five years before it happened, and now he’s right again, as usual.
Which candidate is endorsed by CAIR and other Muslim groups? Which candidate blames the USA for Islamic terrorism? Which candidate hates Israel? – Ron Paul
“Which candidate hates Israel? – Ron Paul”
When Israel bombed Iraq, Ron Paul was one of the only people to stand up for them as a sovereign nation doing what they thought was right to protect themselves. The rest of Congress and the U.N. talked smack at Israel for doing it.
When Ron Paul says the U.S. shouldn’t be giving ANY country foreign aid, ridiculous people who like to throw out “anti-Semite” as if it’s the only word in their vocabulary whine that “that means he hates Israel,” even though while Israel would no longer get 3 billion dollars a year, Israel’s enemies would no longer get 12 billion dollars a year.
Other people don’t treat Israel as a sovereign nation.
Ron Paul treating Israel as a sovereign nation aside, he’s also still the only candidate who is truly for small government, stopping the runaway debt, against the NDAA, has fought for decades to audit The Fed, is the only veteran, is the most pro-gun, is by far the most constitutional, etc, etc, etc.
So all my previous points still stand. All the FAKE conservatives out there would rather vote for a big-government NDAA guy like Obama or Romney or Santorum or Gingrich instead of the small-government guy with a proven track record and the most constitutional and most conservative voting record in all of Congress. Such hypocrites and fakes. fake fake Fake Fake FAKE. FAKE conservatives.
“Which candidate blames the USA for Islamic terrorism?”
Former Deputy Secretary of Defense under Rumsfeld and Bush2, Paul Wolfowitz, isn’t a presidential candidate. The 9/11 commission isn’t a presidential candidate. The CIA isn’t a presidential candidate.
Oh, that’s not what you meant!? You must be trying to say Ron Paul is somehow the only person who has ever talked about blowback. And why do you do that? Because you don’t have anything serious to criticize him about. Everyone knows Ron Paul is the most small-government, most constitutional, and most conservative candidate. That’s why all the NDAA, big-government, big-spending, FAKE conservatives don’t like him.
Name the following quote:
“[W]e can now remove almost all of our forces from Saudi Arabia. Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government. It’s been a huge recruiting device for al Qaeda. In fact if you look at bin Laden, one of his principle grievances was the presence of so-called crusader forces on the holy land, Mecca and Medina. I think just lifting that burden from the Saudis is itself going to open the door to other positive things.”
Deputy Secretary of Defense under Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, 2003.
Even Newt and other warhawks now talk about how the U.S. meddling in countries like Afghanistan is counterproductive. What a “crazy” thing to say!
Just to be clear: I don’t like any of the other candidates either, and do not have a clue what I will do in the general election. “None of the above” is a very real possibility.
Another “I hate the entire Republican Party and I’m supporting Obama” individual, who no doubts claims to be conservative.
I hate all politicians. Party does not matter. As politicians go I hate Obama more than all the rest, but there is really not a dime’s worth of difference in any of them.
Every member of Congress from the 108th to the 110th Congress was aware of Democratic members of Congress attempts to amend the Constitution to allow foreign born persons to run for the presidency contrary to their claims that there is no consensus on the meaning of the natural born citizen clause of said Constitution. That means that from 2003 to 2008 Congress attempted to make Obama eligible. When that failed they started using Alinsky tactics to marginalize and ridicule anyone who questioned the fraud’s eligibility.
They are still doing that, and no matter how much we write, call, and email them letting them know that we are aware of what they have done they still deny that the natural born citizen clause means that the founders intended for presidential candidates to hold no divided loyalties.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.J.Res59:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.J.Res67:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:S2128:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:H.J.Res104:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.J.RES.2:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.J.Res15:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:H.J.Res42:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S2678:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:S.RES.511:
There’s a great video of Professor Murray Sabrin asking some simple questions about the Federal Reserve. Such as: “Why is Ron Paul the only candidate who talks about them? The Fed is the most powerful entity in the country. It has the power to create and destroy money. Yet only Ron Paul talks about them. Either the other candidates are too dumb to understand the Fed and thus don’t talk about it, or they are TOLD not to talk about it.”
The more you think about it, the more serious stuff like this is.
Again I find myself vascillating between Romney and Newt. Newt is keenly aware of the global threat of Islam including its incursions into the American political and academic milieu. He is also up to speed on America’s energy crisis and its obvious free market solutions and he has recently recognized a solution to the Social Security crisis, not an envisioned solution but a solution that has been implemented in Chile and right here inTexas and has an excellent history of achieving solvency while increasing benefits with no tax increases. That is 2 major areas where both the Left and the Right have blatantly failed to produce anything positive in the last 40 years and an awakening to perhaps the most serious threat of an eventual existential conflict with the “nation” of Islam.
Is Romney even aware of the depth of Newt’s thinking? Have they talked? I will take either candidate but hope that whoever that is will have Newt’s depth of knowledge and the courage, determination and chutzpah to face down a reluctant, archaic Congress whose collective ear is glued to a bevy of special interests rendering it increasingly ignorant of reality and isolated from the folks they’re supposed to represent.
Romney will be our nominee because he is getting more caucus and primary votes than the other candidates. Its pretty simple. People like me made a sincere and thoughtful effort to pick the nominee we want to go up against Obama and the majority of us picked Romney. You act like your vote for a nominee should count for more than my vote. We weren’t brainwashed or coerced and we aren’t ignorant either. How insulting you are! I also just cannot wrap my mind around the idea that some of you Republicans would prefer to further devastate the country by refusing to vote in the Presidential election or by voting for Obama against Romney just because he is not the candidate you wanted. Grow up!
“Grow Up!”
So we all just shut up and roll over because YOU think a self proclaimed “progressive” is the right man for the job. . . not my words, HIS words. It’s not a da**ed football game, the color jersey the winner wears doesn’t matter if the policies are the same. Insulting? You bet being told to support this “severe conservative” is insulting.
Hey I didn’t tell you who to support or that you should shut up and roll over either. Can you read? I told you that it is insulting to be told my vote shouldn’t count because you don’t like who I (and a majority of other voters so far) have picked as our choice of candidate. Anytime people talk brokered convention what they really mean is that they want to throw out the the people’s choice and let a few Party elites make the choice for us. They make the choice for you too justAl. And actually this thing is just like a football game but one with incredibly high stakes. The team with the most points wins the game. The candidate with the most delegates becomes the nominee. That’s the way its supposed to work in America. Your team ? Is losing so you want to change the rules or cheat or put in a fix or something so that those of us that made a sincere well thought out principled choice for Romney (or even those who just voted for his hair) are stripped of our votes. That’s the way it works in Iran buddy. So vote for whoever you choose and allow me to do the same. Whoever gets the most delegates wins. And then let’s respect the peoples choice whoever it may be.
Rumwhisp,
Very well said.
And I reiterate,
Whoever the nominee is, we must support him all the way or we lose the country.
Its that simple, really.
“Your team ? Is losing so you want to change the rules or cheat or put in a fix or something”
That’s what the GOP establishment has been doing to Ron Paul in this election. There is proof on video from Athens, GA and St. Charles, MO. The Chairs blatantly ignored their own rules and rammed through their establishment agenda when Paul supporters were the majority in those areas.
Does anyone see the GOP going after the committee people involved in this blatant caucus corruption? Nope, because that blatant caucus corruption helps stop Ron Paul, and all the fake conservatives would rather have four more years of Obama than have a truly small-government, truly conservative, truly constitutional, truly HONEST guy like Ron Paul win.
Watch those caucus videos and see for yourselves! The guy(s) in MO even later admitted to it! Just like the MO committee guy in 2008 admitted to it! And no one cares… amazing. Watch Ben Swann’s Reality Check segments on it.
Fascinating really. The irony of the “Romney will lose just like McCain,” is exactly what was said before. Conservatives, and not his inability to get other voters, will be the ones keeping him from winning if he does lose. If this keeps up I’m afraid that there will never be another Republican President again, and the Democrats have an opportunity to get a real Communist (who isn’t afraid to use that label even) in office. They claim that the fall of Rome is coming while making sure to carry the torches to make sure the Republic burns. Then they say let Rome fall, without asking what came out of Rome? Not Democracy, but at best the Holy Roman Empire or is that what they really want? I can only surmise that we are either dealing with Democratic operatives trying to subvert a Republican wi by faux demoralization, or Theocrats who want to destroy freedom of Religion since the United States is a “Christian Nation.”
“Conservatives, and not his inability to get other voters, will be the ones keeping him from winning if he does lose.”
Already setting up your Mittens-Scapegoat for the day after?!?
Wrong. Just. Plain. WRONG.
As with McCain and 2008, YOU will likely once again to be “shocked! SHOCKED!” to find that independents may well decide that a middle-of-the-road (*not* to you and me, but to them) “known” incumbent is preferable to a squishy, middle of the road, flip-flopping, not-to-be-trusted pretender.
Hell Romney, just look America in the eye and close the deal. Pretty sure he can do it,
If Obama get’s elected AGAIN because the right doesn’t like the candidate, I do not want to hear any complaints about this country going to hell.
I was forced to put up with Obama destroying this country because of this attitude.
I didn’t reap this. Those of you who must have a dream life have/will reap it for me.
Please see my response to Jettboy in post #46; same goes for you, sweetie.
“If Obama get’s elected AGAIN because the right doesn’t like the candidate,”
Someone help me out… I just can’t decide which candidate to vote for. Should I vote for Obama who is for big government, the Patriot Act, NDAA indefinite detention, etc, or should I vote for Romney, Santorum, Gingrich, who are all for the same things. Gosh, it’s so hard to decide whether my vote for big government and NDAA should have a D or an R in front of the name.
Or I could vote for the most constitutional guy in the entire Congress and the only candidate who takes his oath to defend the Constitution seriously, Ron Paul.
This man has already mislead USA into believing that he is a christian, and a Non Moslem, let his pants be off to show he isn’t circumcised before he proceeds further!
Your countrymen have the right to know, who he is.
You need to move to the courts to get this verification done so that the bluff may not get carried further, before you vote!