How Liberals and Democrats Are Spinning a Possible Romney Victory, Before the Election!
As it becomes clear that Mitt Romney might actually win the election, desperate Democrats are beginning to develop a new spin about why Obama might lose. That they are doing this two weeks before the election gives us a glimpse of just how scared they are.
First, the New York Times’ top political reporter, Matt Bai, suggests that if Obama loses, blame could be put on none other than his most important campaign asset, Bill Clinton. Bai writes:
But there is one crucial way in which the 42nd president may not have served the 44th quite as well. In these final weeks before the election, Mr. Clinton’s expert advice about how to beat Mitt Romney is starting to look suspect.
At first, Bai says, the Obama campaign tried to depict Romney as “inauthentic and inconstant, a soulless climber who would say anything to get the job.” But after the public got to see what Romney was really like in the debates, that effort ground to a halt. Instead, Clinton argued they had to portray Romney as an extremist conservative. That, after all, is what Clinton did when he ran, portraying himself as a centrist in between far left elements in his own party and right-wing Republicans opposed to him.
Barack Obama, of course, is no Bill Clinton, and yet the campaign adopted Clinton’s advice, working hard to paint Romney as Bush-Cheney redux. Clinton, as Bai writes, was a “centrist deal maker,” while Obama is correctly not seen in this light by the American public. Bai adds that since the debates, Romney “has made a brazen and frantic dash to the center, and Mr. Obama has often seemed off-balance, as if stunned that Mr. Romney thinks he can get away with such an obvious change of course so late in the race. Which, apparently, he can.”
Romney thus cannot be painted as “a far-right ideologue,” no matter how many times Obama ads try to do just that. To put it bluntly, the tactic is not working, as the increasing numbers shifting to Romney in the polls continue to prove. Obama and his team will continue to make efforts to try to convince swing voters and independents of just that, and so far, it isn’t working.
So, Bai says, if Romney wins, Democrats will put the blame on Bill Clinton for having the campaign change its tactics as Clinton told them to do. Obama, he concludes, “now has only a couple weeks to convince a lot of independents in states like Ohio and Virginia that Mr. Romney really is some raging conservative, rather than the more malleable, somewhat awkward fellow he is impersonating on TV.”
What is significant is that Bai is writing this now — rather than after the election. When can you remember a pro-Democratic analyst writing an explanation for what they fear is a Romney victory when the campaign is still going on?
Speaking off the record Israeli military and political sources have revealed the following-
Netanyahu has twice ordered an attack against Iranian nuclear facilities. When American spy satellites read Israeli jets going hot the information was leaked, with White House approval, to a news agency for release once the planes became airborne. On both instances that attack had to be called off. Without the element of surprise the attack would have failed.
If I were the Israelis I would have warmed up the jets, taken off, flown to the edge of hostile airspace and turned back. Several times. The media would report on breaking news of an attack that never happened, with no way of knowing that information short of a deep security leak at the top of the administration. The questions of how their media buddies were getting direct access to sensitive military intelligence would soon become uncomfortable even for the Obama administration. If somebody’s threatening you using illegal techniques, bait them into a trap that reveals their scheme to the whole world. If nothing else, after enough false alerts the media would get tired of losing credibility every time they cried wolf and stop running it by the time the real attack happened. Iran would get tired of the false alerts too and maybe respond more slowly after being alerted.
Yes, I agree with your analysis. Israel could have said that it planes were performing military exercises to train and test systems unrelated to any specific near or long-term military operations. Also, Israel could have stated, the reports in the media, that have characterized the routine military exercises for training and testing purposes, are inflaming regional tensions and all groups should refrain from inappropriate reports and statements.
Evidence please! I think you are trying a little FUD. Hoping to start an internet rumor. Not unlike that nonsense with a Russian sub cruising around the Gulf of Mexico.
IF true, Bibi would make a public announcement and start a political firestorm in America. None of this “off the Record” BS.
Charlie don’t surf.
REZKO, OBAMA, AND THE NADHMI AUCHI RAILROAD LINKING CHICAGO, WASHINGTON, AND BAGHDAD (Part 2 of 3)
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2012/10/24/rezko-obama-and-the-nadhmi-auchi-railroad-linking-chicago-washington-and-baghdad-part-2-of-3/
Dionne thinks he is a one man PR machine for Obama. He does not read his own copy or look in the mirror obviously. He is speaking to fellow gay Democrats. It may be the country is fed up with his ilk. I know I am.
He and his cohort specialize in contorted logic. “Everybody thinks 2+2 equals 4, but we subtle, nuanced, *insider* people secretly know that 2+2 secretly equals 6.” It’s not far from conspiracy theory. It flatters their intellects and makes them feel like they’re in control.
He epitomizes lefty delusion. Black is white and white is black, good is bad, bad is good … as the Red Queen (Nancy Pelosi?) said, words only mean what I want (or need, in Dionne’s case) them to mean. It’s the same thing with Obama: He actually believes he’s been a great president. He didn’t prep for the first debate with Romney because he believed there was no need since he was so far ahead. Did he get that idea by reading Dionne? It’s a closed delusion-reinforcement loop between lefty pols and the lefty media. Hopefully fewer of our fellow voters have drunk the same magical-thinking Kool Aid this time around.
When Romney wins, I hope he sends a telegram to Obama that says I WON.
P.S. About the Israeli attack on Iran, I’d send a bunch of encrypted messages that say “What’s blue and glows in the dark?” and see which News Agency prints it first.
Spinning is the left’s second favorite pastime, right after outright intimidation.
It is more than possible that The One will lose, but it is also very likely that his demented supporters will become completely unglued. It is not as if they will take the will of the electorate at face value. After all, his shock troops have expounded on their plans to create mayhem, if he fails to finish his plans of deconstruction.
Therefore, while the most intrinsic outcome is for the Radical/Islamist-in-Chief to be defeated, it is imperative to keep an eye out for major mayhem, most especially from Van Jones’s shock troops, and Black Panther domestic terrorists.
Whether or not they go all out remains to be seen. But what is for sure, the plans to create chaos are already formulated – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/08/31/red-hot-warning-from-northeast-intelligence-networks-director-dhs-issued-go-gearing-up-to-secure-election-for-barack-hussein-obama-if-polls-slip-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Someone should start a Top 10 Excuses list. Here’s some of my observations/predictions:
1. RAAAACISM
2. Voter fraud
3. Koch brothers / Adelson, etc.
4. Obama / Democrats too smart for knuckle dragging Americans
5. Obama wasn’t far enough to the Left.
6. Obama didn’t give enough speeches.
7. Obstructionist Congress didn’t let Obama do anything.
8. “Corporate media bias” for Romney (I have seen Progressives float this on Twitter.)
9. Wall Street conspiracy.
10. RAAACISM.
I’m hearing a lot of stuff about how Romney “owns” all the voting machines.
And yet, it was reported this week that early voters in North Carolina were having problems with the electronic voting machines. They were voting for Romney but the machines were logging the votes for Obama. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
Those are the intellectuals (so to speak) of the party. The sentimentalists won’t be far behind.
Here are some sore-loser laments, free to a good Democrat home:
“He didn’t let us down; we let him down.”
“He was ahead of his time.”
“The world wasn’t ready for him.”
“Why do we kill our heroes?”
“Maybe in 2016 — if he hasn’t given up on us.”
“I guess white people had enough.”
“I guess white people had enough.”
Too subtle. More like “Evil, racist cracker AmeriKKKa CRUCIFIED HIM!” His supporters, white and black, will enjoy having their worst beliefs about their country confirmed, their anger justified. His white supporters will continue to enjoy feeling superior to the ignorant racist crackers who voted Him out of office. So I guess there is a bright side to a Romney victory.
Aren’t you afraid that Michelle will go back to being ashamed of America?
What, no blame that the Jews and Israelis sabotaged his campaign?
All well and good to write the obit before the body is cold but there are still 12 days left to campaign. The metaphorical spike is being sharpened for the proverbial ‘kill’ but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Anything can happen – lets not forget the dingbat lawyer Gloria Allred who is on a fishing expedition in Mass. God only knows how that’ll turn out.
But it seems that the loons on the left have forgotten one important thing – Obama now has a record (lets hope that is followed by a police record!) to run on and it ain’t a pretty one. Its hard to defend his lack of care over jobs and instead concentrated on health care – a CYA bill (Frank Dodd) for the ‘too big to fail’ banks – and the ‘stimulus’ (HA!) instead of what was really important to the people that vote – jobs. Oops! Small details eh? But important to some 20% of under and unemployed citizens. Not helping the matter is his refusal to toss illegals out of the country.
My God – the guy has such a long lackluster record that I could write for several hours but its midnight here and I just don’t want to get too aggravated before turning in.
So – did Clinton throw us a bone (or boned Obama’s chances) by harpooning Obama’s second term? I doubt it – but if thats how they want to call it – great! Shows they haven’t learned a thing. Obama could have taken a moderate tack to the right (fools some of the people all of the time doesn’t it Mr. Clinton?) and started working with the other side of the isle and got a few things done about a year ago and had clear sailing – maybe… But time is about up.
Bathhouse Barry will lose the election. And the reason he’ll lose is because “the American people are fundamentally racists”. I’ve already seen this one floated by socialists in the UK.
When running for election the first time, Obama spent 90% of his resources, time and money trying to paint himself as some kind of new age centrist, someone who’d be non-partisan; who would govern with openness and honesty and an eye on what’s best for the country.
As it turns out, Obama governed like an extremist leftist who didn’t have time for one cup of coffee with non-partisanship. And, in effect, waged war on the values and traditions and even the United States Constitution, itself.
In effect, we had elected a mole President. A hater of our allies, a supporter of our enemies; a miscreant who ordered that no one use the term Muslim terrorist anymore.
What’s more, the anointed one looted the treasury. His rules of engagement got thousands of U.S. fighting men killed in Afghanistan. His apology tour was an embarrassment. And, apparently, he didn’t appreciate the significance of September 11th, 2001.
On Sept 11, 2012, 9:40pm local time, four Americans in a Benghazi consulate came under a precision terrorist attack.
Two hours later, having full knowledge what was at stake, Obama said “there will be no rescue attempt by our special forces” which effectively was the death sentence for those four U.S. government officials including our Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.
Obama nixed a Delta Force rescue from Italy, an hour away by plane , which would have had a 75% chance of saving four Americans fighting for their lives. Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Chris Stevens.
Obama decided, in those first two critical hours, he could concoct a story that the coordinated terrorist attack on Benghazi was caused by a youtube video. Obama knew full well that this unconscionable lie would be backed up by a corrupt press which at the same time would be blaming Romney for any press releases they were sure Romney would be sending.
Romney would become the target. Any Romney press release would be called a political act. Which happened. And the mainstream media published the garbage for weeks; up to the time when Obama thought the story would have no more life.
This was Obama’s nefarious, lie filled plan to breath fresh air into Obama’s lying narrative that he had Al-Quaeda on the run.
“I don’t want my husband to be blamed in any way shape or form”, so, after concocting a story about a video causing the violence, and knowing his media would parrot the lie, Obama and Michelle went to bed.
They slept while Americans on the other side of the world were slaughtered.
Years before Obama’s unprecedented leaving of American officials to die horrible deaths so Obama could possibly avoid horrible criticism, Obama’s own words foreshadowed his capability of horrific deeds.
The suggestion that Obama was going to rule with an iron fist came just a week into his Presidency.
“I won”.
Those two words came from lips that would go on to lie willy-nilly. About any target of opportunity.
Another Obama imperative became a “my way or the highway” state of mind.
My way or the highway thinking has been Obama’s path to success at jamming down everything from the freeing of the voter intimidating Black Panthers and 900 billion dollar Stimulus packages to allowing for a flood of illegal immigration, to Obama’s refusal to drill on government land (the killing of Keystone), to birthing of the ObamaCare abortion and to overt threats aimed at the mainstream media; “either eat, sleep and repeat every Obama lie or get off my cloud.”
Not only did Obama fire machine gun lies within his own country, but he lied abroad to allies.
For example, leaving Poland and the Czech Republic without the promised missile defenses was one of the most disgraceful acts in the history of any Presidency.
Obama said he’d be a fair, open, even handed President of the United States of America. Nothing could have been further from the truth.
Instead, he’s been the most leftist, extremist, disingenuous President the nation has ever known.
If Obama doesn’t fit the elements of a traitor, no one ever will.
It’s getting close to that time when President Obama needs to be drummed out of the White House; if need be on the business end of an Marine OKC3S bayonet; pointing him in the correct direction so to speak if President bully starts crying or wetting his asbestos pants.
June 18, 1815 was the date of Napoleon’s Waterloo.
November 6, 2012 will be B. Hussein’s.
We may be about to find out as I listened to Joel Klein, former Clinton White House Counsel, Chancellor of NYC schools, and now advocate par excellence for making computers and gaming the focus of 21st century classrooms ridicule specifically the 1860s mind. Yesterday. He was trying to make the case for a new student centered digital literacy education just like Obama has enacted that ties into the UN/OECD Mind Hobbling Vision. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/using-education-to-shut-down-free-choices-and-then-redefining-as-personal-autonomy-orwell-lives/
Full of allusions to Finland and the poorly understood non-academic PISA driving the so-called international competitiveness rankings and then evoking Al Shanker quotes out of context, a previous presenter’s 1960s education reference suddenly became a chance to show how really outdated the current transmission of knowledge education model is.
1860s in reality is Almost Universal literacy. A belief in individualism that made slavery an abomination worth dying to eliminate. Widespread Axemaker Minds that would develop many of mankind’s greatest inventions. I am thinking with all the bobbing heads among politicians and politically connected businesses that I may have been the only history major in the crowd.
And he kept referring to Condi Rice and Jeb Bush who may want to rethink their advice on education and the Common Core if any of it is coming from Klein. Republicans and the nation generally can no longer afford not to understand what these Orwellian terms actually mean. What the listed reports with inflammatory titles actually say. What is really going on in countries pushed for emulation.
Whatever Romney’s intentions, and I hope ardently for a return to the principles laid out in the superb US Constitution and free markets and the primacy of the individual as the only way out of this 21st century mess, we cannot get there as long as we let the Left create the nomenclature. CReate and keep the real Glossary. If elected, Romney and Ryan must be able to use the real meanings of these terms the Left uses and hopes we never understand.
But we do now.
Dionne forgot that dropping acid when you are already confused and stressed is a very bad idea.
As long as I can remember E. J. Dionne has been explaining to us that “progressives” (as he is pleased to call liberals) will dominate the future of American politics. Even when Republicans win, even when Tea party-endorsed candidates oust “me-too” Republicans and get themselves elected, even when…I don’t know…whatever happens, “progressives” always win out.
I have had the opportunity to sit next to E. J. Dionne twice at meals, and I found him a most pleasant and civilized individual. I do not know what particular delusions cause him to write such bosh.
The post-election war against Romney/Ryan will make the war against GWB look like a cotillion picnic. Nothing will be too crass, too crude, too unhinged or too obviously a lie. And, it will be no holds barred in the Senate if Harry Reid is still “in-charge.”
spinoneone is correct – it will be all-out rejectionist war on Romney from day 1.
W made many mistakes during his Presidency, not the least of which was failing to answer the idiocy thrown his way by the organized left.
You are right, the knives will be out for Romney.
And the “perfect metaphor” to undermine him is already brewing:
The Trevon /Zimmerman trial.
The case is so weak, he will probably be acquitted early in Romneys Presidency.
The fall-out of that verdict will BECOME Romneys Presidency
The Media is, right now, preparing the emotional narrative in which “That Trial” is (was) “The Election”, and the “tragedy” of the “verdict” will be met with gnashing teeth and wails of agony and disbelief.
The Obama defeat will be “legal”, but morally it will be treated as an “obvious mistake”
And they will enforce that message through the emotional dynamics of the Zimmerman Acquittal. They will “re-indict” the entire nation over a jury verdict that they, in THEIR infinite wisdom, simply know is “wrong”…just like the election, where SO many people, people who didnt even REALIZE they were Racists, voted the “wrong” way. Oh, what a flawed nation we live in.
They will do all this with the explicit goal of undermining a Romney Administration.
Mark My Words.
Obama is Trevon…Trevon is Obama….
Both were Murdered by Racists.
One on the street, the other in the Blogosphere, and the “guilty”, that is to say Zimmerman AND Romney, have both “walked”…one to the White House, the other to freedom …and these two events together, will be the Gemini of the New Narrative.
Just like how “The Homeless” did not exist as an entity, as a personage, as a cause, until it became Reagans crown of thorns, The Media will craft a New Sinister Dark Age of Fear and Racism to place around Romney neck.
What went so terribly wrong? How can we atone for this injustice?
The Meme is already in place, the stories are already written….
The linkage, symbolism, the INTENT to craft a narrative they control….its a done deal.
They are Professional Propagandists. This is WHAT THEY DO.
Zimmeromney murdered their Trebama, and got away with it.
Its their JOB to make us pay for that.
Just you wait and see.
When Al and Jessie shut their pie holes about Treyvon, within two weeks of the crime, everyone knew he was guilty.
People forget that even after Reagan’s win over Carter in 1980, he had to survive an assassination attempt to get his tax cut agenda passed. It was only the sympathy for him after he was almost killed that forced Tip O’Neill and the House Democrats to back of stonewalling Reagan on the lower tax rates.
Barring something similar, Romney will face the same problems if he wins, even if the Republicans do manage to win the Senate and hold the House. And the other thing to remember is that the Carter economy was such a steaming pile of peanuts that it took 18 months for the economic reforms to take effect — just before the 1982 midterms but not in time to prevent Democratic gains in those midterms. Congressional Republicans along with Romney will have to have the stomach to stay the course on their reforms even if the economic turnaround isn’t instantaneous (and if they do get something passed you can bet the big media will be harping on any GOP plan’s failure if it doesn’t produce results within 24 hours of its passage).
You’re right John,
It will be a two-fold assault – The MSM will conduct the psychological -ops to create force a somber emotional mood in the country, which will enable the Dems to obstruct and sabotage the “mechanics” of any solution Romney has for the economy and look “sincere”.
The MSM will be full of stories of him “taking away” Health Care and Food Stamps from the sick and hungry to “pay for” his tax cuts, while the Dems gut any workable solutions to reduce their effectiveness, and it (attempts to become) a self-fulfilling prophesy. The Bold Action needed thus watered down, and the lower results “proof” of failure.
All we can hope for, is the Tea Party Energy stays vibrant, providing some much needed “coat tails” now, as well as “up and comer’s” for the Mid-terms, as well as grassroots.
The Democrat Rot is deep, their corruption and influence all the way down to every local school board and Police Department.
The MSM is positively Treasonous.
And our Nerdy White Businessman just defeated their Hip Black Rock Star?
Mitt will have antagonistic forces aligned against him like no other president in History.
He’s not my Ideal Candidate, but as Lincoln said about the complaints of his less than perfect Generals early in the Civil War: “we must make best use tools WE HAVE”
We are in for a 30+ year battle just to bring back the country of MY childhood, never mind the Founders Plan. I’ll settle for him competently holding the line long enough for re-enforcements to further change the National Tide in the NEXT few elections.
I’ve been thinking that the Democrats are going to push us off the fiscal cliff no matter what happens because they figure it’s a win/win for them. If Obama wins, they can use the resulting fiscal crisis to push for of their agenda and demogogue Republicans who have been “stonewalling” (nevermind it’s the Senate under Reid that’s been doing that). The media will cover them. If Romney wins, they can blame him for the resulting mess and start scoring points for their comeback in the midterms.
They have no reason to step back from the cliff.
If Romney occupies the White House, dissent will once again be ‘patriotic’. Democratic filibusters in a GOP-led Senate will be ‘tradition’.
Roberts will look like a genius. Tax bills cannot be filibustered. So if the (R)’s take the Senate, Obamacare is gone. Poof.
Youse guys are taking this waaaaay to serious. I’m a conservative. Nobody for me to vote for. I see this election as a 21st century remake of Predator vs Alien. Cheap entertainment.
If the ghetto comes boiling up out of their rat holes they will be shot down. This isn’t 1968. They know that and will burn down their own neighborhoods. Any moves toward the ‘burbs will be met with hollow points.
Mitt (the Predator) will win by a comfortable margin. Then an army of Lawyers will descend on Washington. Not that there is any shortage of lawyers in Washington, D. C.
If the Supreme Court takes the election from Romney and gives it to Obama, then there might be trouble. The USA could make Syria look like two drunks fighting at the company picnic.
I suspect that a lot of Democrats will be secretly relieved if Obama loses, considering the damage he’s done to the party. But if the Obama camp tries to blame the Clintons for a loss, they’ll regret it. Nobody beats the Clintons when it comes to ruthlessness.
I think it’s entirely possible that Obama offered Bill Clinton the Sec State position in return for getting Obama re-elected. That’s why Hillary took the hit on Benghazi. As it becomes increasingly clear that Obama will loose in Ohio, and maybe in Pennsy, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bill, “for the good of the Country”, tell us that Barack messed up in Benghazi, that his wife took the hit for the good of the Party. But Barack has proven himself to be incompetent to lead. Hillary of course will be available to be the NEW savior in ’16 though. Bill knows that after 4 more years of Obama, the US economy will be a 3rd world, in the toilet economy, incapable of recovery in our lifetimes. It would mean the end of the Dem Party. Hillary has a better chance of becoming POTUS against Romney, even after he saves the economy, than after we become Zimbabwe.
Lucifer will win.
Yep. The Chicago Machine is impressive, but Old Man Bill is schooling their Honor Student, and the little boy doesn’t even know it yet.
Bill Clinton is a [insert long list of very bad things], but he’s a very smart campaigner.
Hillary didn’t fall on her sword. She offered just enough cover for Obama to keep everybody on her side happy, without incurring any liability in the process. When Obama is One-And-Done, it will come out that HE was the whole problem all along. Hillary will be the heroine who tried to stand up for her people, but was overruled by the Idiot-In-Chief.
Watch for it. Hillary 2016 bumper stickers, coming soon to a Prius near you.
I wrote a couple of weeks back that I believed that HRC had a copy of the briefing memo she sent through normal channels to have put in BHO’s briefing package backing Stevens’ request for additional security. She did that in the almost certain knowlege that the lazy SOB wouldn’t read it or act on it if he did read it. On the off chance that the did read and act, well, good for the Ambassador and wait to try another day. She set him up and BHO did just exactly what she expected; didn’t act, got caught flat-footed by it, lied about it, and tried to throw HRC and the Intelligence services under the bus; these aren’t good people to try to throw under the bus – especially when they’re holding the ace. Along my way I had the opportunity to set up and take out a couple of bosses by giving them the opportunity to just be themselves.
The Clintons HATE Obama! She was poised to become President when the Soros machine yanked her chain, probably threatening to out one or both of them for one of their many high crimes and misdemeanors; Clintons don’t just meekly sheathe their sword for the good of the Party and take the SoS slot when they’re practically guaranteed an HRC Presidency until the Soros backed upstart and usurper pitches in.
The Country is going to be broke and all but ungovernable under Romney, and the Democrats will do everything they can to make it worse. Romney is going to have to be a ruthless SOB; maybe it’s in him, maybe not. A troubled four years of Republican control probably makes a better campaign target in ’16 to the Clintons.
NO! Mitt is an out of the box thinker. Here are two unthinkable, out of the box ideas that will fix the economy in months.
1) Offer the removal of all rules and regulations on a small business for 3 years that hires 1 new employee for that 3 year period. Small businesses lose over 250,000 per year on rules and regulations. Hire some schmuck for 50K and pocket the 200 thou.
How many of the 20 million small businesses will turn down free money? I figure that will produce 15 million new hires in the first month. That is over half the 23 million unemployed in America.
2) Sell California to China. 16 Trillion sounds about right.
I’m sure Romney can produce better ideas then those.
It seems inevitable, in retrospect, that Obama’s failure to persuade Americans to grant him a second term would be characterized by the Left’s media annex as a personal failing, whether Obama’s or someone else’s. They cannot allow, even by implication, that the policies Obama adopted once in office, so sharply at variance with his 2008 campaign posture, proved massively destructive and distasteful to the nation.
The Left’s media allies will only defend individual liberal champions if such a defense doesn’t threaten left-liberal social-fascism as a set of concepts and policies. The ideology, and its protection from substantive examination, is paramount.
How do Democrats in Congress escape responsibility for their part in this fiasco? THEY were the ones who passed Obamacare and all the rest of it. As much as we blame Obama for the trillion dollar deficits, it was Congress that allocated the money.
Obama’s leadership failures may be personal, but he was aided and abetted in much of what he did by a compliant Congress.
Most of them are in VERY safe Blue districts; you could easily elect Lenin’s corpse in most Democrat districts.
If Romney wins, perhaps Bill Clinton will be the architect of the Obama collapse. And perhaps Clinton knew all along what he was doing and its outcome. Wouldn’t surprise. The Clintons had the last laugh.
E.J. was confused the first time I met him in Rome in the 1980s.
I think I am as conservative as the come and I for sure do not see Romney in a mad dash to the center. On what issue is Romney not conservative? I don’t get it. This sounds like more Alinskyisms.
On what issue is he reliably conservative?
The worst thing we can do (aside from voting for Democrats) is to pretend that RINOs are conservatives. We’ll have to fight them, too, and being bamboozled won’t help us any.
The meaning of “conservative” is under dispute here in the 21st century. RINO’s, or the old guard Republicans are what I consider Clinton Democrats.
Fiscally responsible Liberals. Modern Conservatism is based on moral values. God, Gays and Guns. Abortion would be on there but it’s a lost cause. Fiscal restraint is a given. The Democrats moved far left, Republicans scooted over to the center. The right was abandoned. McCain lost because conservatives wouldn’t support him. If Romney loses, it will be for the same reason.
A compromise between water and sewage is still sewage.
In other words, Dionne is admitting that Obama is a liar running a fundamentally dishonest campaign.
Despite being inundated by negative press, the TEA Party is the largest and fastest growing segment of the Republican Party. The fact that it does not represent a majority of the voters is scant reason to write its obituary.
Dionne is purely a Statist. His only vision is for an imperial executive (who we happen to call a President, but any title would work as well.) This is the mark of a fearful little man, who wants and needs someone else to do his thinking for him.
E. J. Dionne, like almost all Leftists (he’s not liberal, Ron) lives in a make-believe world where truth is relative. For a Leftist, truth is what the Leftists wants it to be, even when unmoored from empirical reality.
These explanations are amusing. But let’s be prepared for accusations of “voter suppression,” sure to come from the Chicago thugs and their Black Panthers comrades.
Dionne reminds me of Baghdad Bob. Kind of encouraging when even the Obama’s supporters are rationalizing his defeat before the election.
I believe Dionne has a point, at least, on how the campaigns have been run. Romney, as we saw in the 3rd debate, is certainly attempting not to scare off any voters who are leaning his way on account of the economy but may have been a little frightened, buying into the Dem’s attacks on his character. Other than that, the Tea Party’s effect on the senate and congressional races in the next few cycles will be the telling point on whether they will continue to pull the country to the right. Fear tactics only work if warnings of the big bad wolf are not merely crying wolf. People aren’t as stupid as the Dems apparently suppose. Abraham Lincoln is still correct in that regard.
I’m thrilled that they’re resorting to blaming Clinton before the election. Maybe he’ll get angry enough about it to make it a reality. It wouldn’t take much effort by him to turn just enough votes away from Obama for Obama to lose. Clinton certainly doesn’t owe Obama a damn thing and probably harbors a lot of anger toward Obama for the way Hillary has been treated since the primaries in 2008. If Hillary wants to run in 2016 then an Obama loss is probably better for her than an Obama win, especially if he continues his destructive policies. No one will want to vote for a Dem in 2016 if Obama wins because he will have created so much wreckage that Dems won’t be trusted to fix it.
I’ve wondered about that, myself, Eric. A couple of weeks after Hillary Clinton falls on her sword to save Obama’s neck, his supporters are targeting Bill Clinton as the fall guy for their failed re-election bid. Whatever you think of his politics or personal life, Bill Clinton is one of the sharpest political operatives to play the game in the last 30 years. Something tells me Barack Obama on November 7 wondering what role the Clinton’s may have played in his defeat.
The scuttlebutt around the conservative blogosphere is that the Clintons have been subtly undermining Obama for a long time now and after Obama leaves office they are going to try to memory hole hopenchange and re-brand the Democrats as “moderates.”
That would actually be a great thing. I’ll take a Clinton (post 1994) over “fundamentally changing this country” any day. I wonder if Bill is also secretly pissed about Obama’s executive order gutting the bipartisan welfare reform he worked so hard to enact?
Dionne is right that Romney represents a defeat for the Tea Party… at least in the short term. It’s why many of us at least thought about voting for Obama instead: What can’t continue, won’t, and it may be better to go ahead and get the crash over with with a Democrat in charge. The only thing stopping many of us from doing exactly that is that Obama’s re-election and second term agenda would guarantee a hot civil war, and some are not convinced that’s inevitable anyway.
Since politicians are slippery slimy invertebrate bastards, it is unrealistic to expect to ever elect “good” ones to office. What has to change is the political environment, the zeitgeist, so that the bad politicians are forced to do the right thing because the people know the difference and are actually watching.
Because a politician is the kind of person who, when he sees his people going somewhere, jumps out in front of them so that he can appear to be leading them, even though he has no idea where they are going.
There is nothing on God’s Green Earth, including Chicago thugs or terrorists (oh wait, that’s redundant) that could have induced me to vote for Bath House Barry in 2008, and nothing ever will.
He is evil incarnate.
The vast majority of key advisors for Jimmy Carter never worked on another high-profile campaign again, due to the resentment in their own party at allowing the 1974-76 Democratic landslides to turn into the 1980 Reagan and GOP Senate victories, People like Axelrod and Plouffe in Team Obama know this, and don’t want to be marginalized if their guy loses. That’s why Matt Bai is throwing out the “It was all Bubba’s fault!” pre-election spin. They don’t want to admit having Obana govern left after the 2010 midterms was the key mistake; instead they want Clinton to take the fall because he made them try to paint Romney as too far right.
I love the argument over whether the Democrats should have fed the public strawberry or chocolate flavored BS. No one seems to consider the heretical notion that using BS as a base was a bad idea. But then again, they couldn’t very well run Barack on his record.
Fast Eddie: I’m the best you ever seen, Fats. I’m the best there is. And even if you beat me, I’m still the best.
Bert Gordon: Stay with this kid; he’s a LOSER.
OK, E.J., even if your guy loses, he’s still the best! Meanwhile, we’ll take the White House and both housese of Congress. And you can brag about winning.
H.L. Mencken once said, “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.” Well, maybe nobody ever went broke, but they certainly lost elections that way.
Americans are many things, but they are NOT stupid. They know when things are bad. They know when an economy hasn’t gotten any better in four years, they know that a $16 trillion debt is not a good thing, they know when a “stimulus” stimulated nothing but more debt, they know that we can’t afford Obamacare and that it will bankrupt this nation, and they know that America is drowning under the massive number of taxes and regulations that have been heaped upon it by this current administration. And we have not even talked about the disaster in Libya or Fast & Furious, two scandals that would have destroyed Republicans had they been in the White House. But because we have a black liberal Democrat in the White House, the mainstream media chooses to ignore most of this just to keep their guy in office.
So Obama has done more than just fail in the eyes of the American public, he has left a really bad taste in their mouth, sort of like the dirty bathtub ring that Bill Clinton left around the White House after he left office and allowed George W. Bush to become president. The American public sees all of this and knows that there needs to be real change in Washington. Because if we continue down this current road with Obama, Americans also know that it’s not too late for us to end up just like Greece.
So give some credit to the American people, all you liberals in the mainstream media. Mencken may be right when it comes to TV programs like “Jersey Shore,” “Dancing with the Stars,” or “The Jerry Springer Show,” but when it comes to elections, I think they have more common sense than that (the election of Obama in 2008 being an exception rather than the norm).
“Americans are many things, but they are NOT stupid”
Depends on what your definition of “Americans” and “stupid” are.
Liberals are NOT Americans, they are small ‘c’ Communists.
They are NOT stupid, they are evil.
Democrats ARE Americans, but the majority of them are pretty stupid for believing that party will lead to anything but dispair and ruin.
So thats where we get the infamous “47%” from.
Things are bad, Ship.
SO BAD IT OUGHT TO BE A ROMNEY LANDSLIDE of 60-something percent to 30-something percent….but it aint.
Its about a razor edge 51-49
Because (i’m gonna say it!)
Americans are STUPID.
Just like Mitt Said. Almost HALF dont have a clue anymore.
They are a liability, not an asset.
Even intelligent people though display signs of very bad judgement, such as the case of refusing to support Republican candidates because of the social issues or because of being convinced that corporations are the “true bastions” of greed & corruption, so gov’t must be there to continually rein them in. Meantime, RvW is intact, support for marriage equality is growing but the economy suffers because of gov’t overreach with regulations & super-high corporate tax rates.
Corporations, in general, are “true bastions” of jobs and prosperity. That’s why most of us work for one. There’s a definite cause-effect breakdown in liberal thinking.
Got THAT right…
Oil Companies…
Huge revenue streams for Government…they take a percentage of their profits on one side, and slap a big chunk-o-tax right at the retail level.
Plus all that SSI and Medicade deductions from their employees paychecks.
The Government makes more money from Oil than the Oil Companies themselves.
And they have the NERVE to make “Big Oil” the bad guy, while EVERY SINGLE form of “green energy” is a money losing black hole…what a farce.
I don’t really care who they blame. As a matter of fact, it may actually be entertaining watching them crawl through their own orifices in vain attempts to rationalize how America could possibly repudiate their enlightened leadership. Pleas vote. We must rid ourselves of this vermin.
“Let’s get out there on Election Day and make their fearful dreams come true.”
Yes indeed but how do we prevent long-term leftists returning to power. If they come back our fiscal health will quickly go downhill again.
I think we’re getting ahead of ourselves quite a bit here. Romney hasn’t won yet. As Hans Solo once said, “Don’t get cocky kid”.
Yep.
“Cocky” immediately precedes “clobbered”, in most cases.
The amount of braggadocio I see coming from Republicans scares me. It’s NOT healthy!
Obama currently has a very comfortable advantage over Romney in terms of both likely voters and electoral college numbers. He won 2/3 debates, which killed Romney’s chance of mounting a “comeback”. Obama has grabbed huge percentages of female and Latino votes, which were exactly the votes that Romney needed to win. 2008 proved that a candidate cannot win simply by pandering to the anger of old white men, yet the Romney campaign seems content to double down on the same failed campaign strategy that led to a McCain loss. Obama also has a significant advantage as the sitting president, especially against a candidate with absolutely no foreign policy experience. Finally, early voting in several swing states is showing a decisive lead for the president. Barring some devastaing 11th hour scandal, which one would think the GOP would have already produced, Obama wins. It won’t be a landslide by any means, but it will still be a comfortable win that will give him a mandate to continue his policies.
Anyone who thinks that the 2012 campaign is anything remotely similar to 2008 is insane. Saying Romney is like McCain is like calling yourself an idiot.
LOL. What color is the sky in your world, Jack W?
In your universe, doesn’t Spock have a beard?
Really, there is nothing to spin, the white folks who had voted for him in 2008 returned to their “racist” root when the economy went sour, when Benghazi was not-optimal that an ambassador and three other Americans were murdered and a scapegoat was sent to jail. The racists deprived the most brilliant black president success as a warning to other non-white Americans that the White House must stay white.
I Just have to put this little tidbit in here to liven things up little bit. This is a YouTube video which, if true, is a damning indictment of Obama that will get him tried for treason for sure. Have a look…..It worked as of 1:00 Friday morning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFbmP5fW2-A
I’m thinking they’ll recycle a Clinton-era excuse. To paraphrase, “The people voted wrongly.”
There’s a more recent example, but from a British newspaper.
The headline in 2004 was along the lines of:
How could [number of bush voters] Americans be so dumb?
I guess this time we’ll be racists as well as dumb.
Mr. Radosh,
You have my deepest sympathy for having to read E.J. Dionne. Following the the lazy and twisting logic of E.J. Dionne is a lot like following the lazy and twisting Congo River in search of Mr. Kurtz. How far will you go, and will you recognize yourself after you get there? I’m only half-joking…
Actually, the only reason we’re still dealing with the Clintons is because H. Ross Perot split the conservative vote in 1992.
So true…
Romney coined “47%” but Bill will always be Mr. 43 & 41 to me.
“most popular president ever”
Except….with the actual VOTERS, right?
He got 49% in 1996, not 41%. We have a divided country, 16 trillion in debt and aging boomers. He will have as much legitimacy in pushing through tea party/Ryan agenda as Obama had in pushing universal health care in 2009.
Her is one I heard about a month or two ago on one of those Sunday morning public affairs programs on local college radio station; The host a sociology professor and his guest, some author, said if Obama is not re-elected it is because “the American people are intlectually incapable of understanding Obamas grand vision for America”
if Obama is not re-elected it is because “the American people are intellectually CAPABLE of understanding Obama’s grand vision for America”. And the takers will vote for him anyway, since they will continue to get a free ride.
Reads like “Dr. Simon Pritchard” must have been interviewing “Bertram Scudder”, both characters of decidedly negative notoriety in Atlas Shrugged. Come to think, that’s about the level of Dionne’s intellect, as well. Who cares anymore what these Libtards attempt to spin? — Telling the truth would cost them their jobs, and they know it. Losers, every one of them!
Go President Romney!
Do they really think Bill is going to put up with this? Do they have any idea how much more damage he can do if they keep pissing him off?
FWIW:
A Romney/Ryan administration will:
NOT ban abortion
NOT ban contraception
NOT ban stem cell research
NOT abolish Medicare
NOT abolish Social Security
NOT eliminate food stamps and other safety net programs
Ironically, a Romney/Ryan administration will be a better steward of the programs liberals cherish than Obama or the Democratic party ever could be. Obama and his party are a train wreck that would inadvertantly rend the safety nets they claim to champion.
Democrats might as well vote for Romney now.
I am calling for a complet ban on pornography including the bra and panty advertisements in my local newspaper.
I think that Dionne’s article should be widely disseminated by the RNC, with the heading: Why Liberals Can Be Comfortable Voting For Romney.
And some people think that Leftists live in a fantasy world of their own making. How silly.
Well, if you ignore what he’s SAID, and just look at what he’s done as an elected official, she’s right.
But that’s silly. Everyone knows that what a politician SAYS on the campaign trail is always more important than his ACTIONS. Right?
Right.
Romney is a pragmatist, someone who will do whatever needs to be done to fix a problem.
He’s conservative if one calls people who do not want unborn babies killed conservative.
He’s a conservative if one calls people who want to preserve the First and Second Amendments conservative.
He’s a conservative if one calls people who do not raise other people’s taxes to buy off voters conservative.
He’s a conservative if one calls people who take care of their own communities without govt. interventions conservative.
Otherwise, Romney is an old time liberal who wants to be left alone.
I was a regular poster on the forums of patrick.net for years.
But now, it’s gone completely nuts over there.
In the politics forum, I posted links about the O’Keefe video exposing how the Dems use forged utility bills to get around the Voter ID law in VA as well as the bogus ‘don’t vote letters’ many white, Republican voters in Florida are receiving and the FBI has announced officially investigating.
My posts were deleted by the site owner and when I asked why, I was told ‘This isn’t the anti-Obama show’. I asked how voter fraud had to do with Obama — did he find out that Obama is involved in those events or what?
My account then got deleted. I was exiled. Then I read Dionne’s ‘what the heck is this?’ cognitive dissonance implosion. The familiar CRAZY pattern for both was all there.
The Left is definitely becoming unglued as even they engage in desperate denialist behavior to shore up their Reality Free Zone bubbles. But that bubble is going to burst soon like in 2004. Remember, back then they went off the Wacko Cliff when Kerry lost and they didn’t even give a flying fig about Kerry like they do about their Messiah now. So, this will only get worse and worse and you can even expect riots after the election, I think.
Tips to survive the insanity:
1) Don’t engage in any ‘serious’ or ‘deep’ discussions of any kind (even non-political related) with a known lefty who KNOWS you aren’t ‘one of them’. Talk about the weather. Talk about the World Series. Talk about your sex life. Talk about ANYTHING that is pretty safe from becoming about politics. You’ll retain more friends after the s-storm settles down that way.
2) Buy ammo and body armor. Not necessarily in that order. To decide what order you should, see if you live in ‘enemy territory’ as per the next point, #3.
3) If you live and work in ‘enemy territory’ (like the SF Bay Area, for example) consider taking a PTO day off for Nov 7. Hell, don’t be surprised if you get a 6am phone call from your boss TELLING you to do so…if so BE SURE to make him/her NOT count it off your PTO — insist it be a freebie on the company’s dime. This really did happen to employees in the Bay Area the day after Kerry blew it, btw. And, ifyou are going to execute point #2 as per above, prioritize buying the body armor over the ammo.
This is only going to get crazier and even outright insane over the next two weeks, kiddos. Mark my words. When it comes to Libtards, history ALWAYS repeats itself.
When they lose–and they will–and they start throwing a temper tantrum, it’s up to us to spank them and tell them to ” Shut up and color, you big babies.”
I’m in Norfolk, VA, and I’m giving serious consideration to this. Amazing how (VA-3) is such a Democratic stronghold despite all the military and DOD personnel here.
NOTHING is EVER Barack Obama’s fault!
I don’t know why I have the hunch that this election will be one different from every election past and even future. I foresee a scenario in which BO is defeated but he “creates” a mega-crisis after election day that “unfortunately” forces him to delay the transfer of power. Then the whole thing blows up and he goes down in history like a disgraced politician. He ends up in such bad shape that people will have to start calling Nixon “Lucky Dick”. In the process the Democratic Party and Progressives simply go the way of the dodo bird, never to come back. Utopias are banned by popular decision and we all go back to work for a living. All of us.
“The Democrats and Progressives simply go the way of the dodo bird”?
I hope you are right, but I also hope of having tonights winning lottery ticket. The Dems and Progs won’t go away. They may gone for awhile but they are like the classic movie monsters where at the end of those movies everything seem okay because the Frankenstein moster has been destroyed in a fire or The Mummy is gone for because he and his bride Anaka went down in quicksand. But along comes another movie and monsters are back with a vengence.
I’m also worried that Obama and his cronies are absolutely crazy enough to try that if defeated, fortunately the constitution is very specific about when a presidential term ends and any attempt to remain in power would rightly be seen as a coup. Given that Obama has such low support among the military that the Democrats have gone out of their way in attempts to disenfranchise military members serving overseas, the military would almost certainly oppose any coup attempt, and coups need the support of the military to survive. Most will remember that they took an oath to the country, not Obama, and support his forceful removal. Even though not renown for common sense hopefully Obama and his cronies at least have a strong enough sense of self-preservation not to try that.
It’s certainly not out of the realm of possibility though, especially if they can use something like the hurricane to cook up some flimsy legal pretext.
Whatever you may think of the twisted logic that these progressive writers are putting out I am stunned by the defeatism that permeates their columns. I want them to keep it up so that the Dem base is completely demoralized before the election takes place. If they and the rest of their ilk can depress Dem turnout enough we will see a Romney/Ryan/GOP landslide of epic proportions.
I am recommending to everyone that we refer to them as Leftists rather than Progressives, Liberals, or even Democrats. Those words thave more positive connotations than Leftist.
A Romney victory will produce the following parroted meme: The incumbent Barack Obama was defeated by an insidious blend of…
1) white racism
2) minority voter suppression
3) conservative PACs
I guarantee it.
Unfortunately it probably doesn’t matter if Romney wins or not. The media will do to him as it did to Bush. Incessantly hammer, denigrate and diminish until it becomes common knowledge that he has failed. It was this media propaganda, in my opinion, that elected Obama. He was the anti-Bush, anti-Republican and until the NFM (Non-Fox Media) fails, which is coming but might take a decade, this country will continue dangerously divided. That division is severely weakening us. By then it might be too late for recovery and we’ll join the family of failed nations, failed political experiments. And we were — are — the best, the strongest, most moral, most innovative, most prosperous, and most generous nation in world history.
Sad.
What will be required is for Romney to do something Bush refused to do – Set the Record Straight with the Media.
Reagan did it without denegrating the office to the President.
On November 7th, after Romney is elected, Obama and everyone associated with Obama (media, Hillary, all Democrats, liberal think tanks) will become instantly radioactive.
On Nov 7th, it will be hard to find anyone who will admit they supported Obama.
On the contrary, I expect them to riot if Obama looses. The left never wastes a good crisis. The division over his “vision for america” runs deeper than the economy, or a few “bumps in the road”. The nation is the more divided than at any time since the civil war. If Obama looses (and maybe if he wins) there will be violence, mark my words.
Matt Bai may describe Romney as “malleable”, but from the direct quotes in the article it would appear that it is the truth which is malleable…in the hands of lib journalists.
Jeez, can’t get my comment posted. Well, I kinda knew that a guy who once followed Communist Party discipline would show his true colors.
“First, the New York Times’ top political reporter, Matt Bai, suggests that if Obama loses, blame could be put on none other than his most important campaign asset, Bill Clinton.”
Unbelievable. It’s never Obama’s fault. It’s Bush’s fault. It’s the Republicans’ fault. Now it’s Clinton’s fault. Is the Doofus ever responsible for anything? Is there any way we can get out of paying for his library and his lifetime of excuses why he was such a failure?
You’re dreaming. Obama is ahead in the electoral vote, and that is not likely to change.
You pseudoconservatives are nuts, and not really conservative. You espouse a radical anti-government agenda, just like the Reds in Russia a hundred years ago. Real conservatives are cautious, preferring incremental change. They also respect government and its institutions. You believe that only you cwith your superior widom can rescue the Constitution, since everyone is is an idiot.
News flash: The Consititution was not designed for slash and burn politics. It requires seasoned statesment of different factions to work together for the common good. Compromise, not winner take all, it at the heart of the document.
Sure you might win, but following up on Mitch McConnell’s vow to make Obama a one term President has done immeasurable harm to the USA. America can survive a bad president, but it cannot survive a Party dedicated to total victory. And by the way, the Navy is larger now than it was in 2007.
All your talk about factions needing to “work together” is really ironic coming from an Obama supporter. Clinton was successful because after his left-wing policies were repudiated in the 1994 elections he tacked to the center and worked with congressional republicans. Obama burned those bridges by ramming obamacare through against the will of almost 60% of the country. The voters in 2010 voted to put the brakes on his agenda. Instead of admitting he had been too far left and tacking to the center like Clinton did, he doubled down and just tried to implement his agenda through fiat wherever possible. Obama’s decline in the polls has been rapid over the last few weeks, don’t be so sure it’s over yet.
He’s solidly down in terms of the popular vote, and I think it quite likely that even if he manages to squeak off a victory on electoral votes, the house will still be held by Republicans who will now have even less incentive to cave to Obama’s demands. Obama won’t compromise on raising taxes on the rich and the country will go over the fiscal cliff. The net result will be an economy just as bad if not worse for the next 4 years and a do-nothing president blocked by congress. The 2014 midterms will make the 2010 midterms look democratic and the 2016 election would be a rout of epic proportions for a democratic party that would be toxic for many years. If we’re lucky his policies may speed the final collapse into occurring under his watch, finishing progressivism in this country for decades.
I’m honestly not that worried about a potential Obama victory. I can survive 4 more years of a terrible economy and I’m confident that at least there will be no more Obamacares passed without a speaker Pelosi.
Clinton “worked” with Republicans? They spent most of their time trying to bring him down, with the impeachment trial as the Gotterdamerung of reason for that era. Your comments reflect a desire, presumably shared with a lot of your ilk, for a vast political and economic apocalypse that would result in total defeat for progressives. That used to be called treason; the Constitution never envisioned one party rule.
Another news flash: Obamacare will save money in the long run. As a nation, the US spends its health care $ very inefficiently compared to other industrialized nations (we spend more, and get less, partly due to trial lawyers, and due to layers of red tape in the insurance industry). Obamacare reduces costs overall, ensures broad coverage, and frees up our national wealth for other endeavors. And exactly how has Obamacare hurt you personally? Maybe there is a college student in your family that now has coverage longer, or someone with a preexisting condition that can’t be dumped by the insuror now. While you are correct in stating that most citizens opposed the Affordable Care Act, but polling also showed that many of the individual requirements contained within the Act are very popular among Americans. So people oppose Obamacare but think college students should be covered by their parent’s policy until age 26.
If Obama racks up 20+ Trillion of debt like he would in a second term, a collapse of some sort is inevitable. It only seems just that it should fall on the people who made it inevitable. Obamacare does NOT save money. Those CBO projections came from cooking the books in three ways: 1st they paid for 6 years of benefits with 10 years of taxes and only looked at the first ten years, just a gimmic to sell it. Now that the first two years have elapsed, the price of the next 10 years has “unexpectedly” gone up. What a shock. 2nd they used absolutely unrealistic assumptions of economic growth and tax revenue. The scenarios that caused it to save money were predicated on incredibly unlikely economic scenarios, but the CBO must score under whatever assumptions they’re told to, and as the saying goes, garbage in, garbage out. 3rd, they passed a lot of the costs off onto the states with medicaid expansions. Your state taxes will have to increase, or other services be cut to pay for this, deflecting blame from O and congressional dems where it belongs. The American people weren’t dumb enough to buy the crock of shit they were being sold, and the polls in favor of its repeal continue to show it. Pelosi though she was so smart “passing the bill to find out what’s in it” and it cost her the speaker’s gavel in 2010. If you want to blame the obstruction in congress on something, blame it on Obamacare because that was the singular issue that got voters fired up enough to elect people vowing to put the brakes on Obama’s agenda. They’re doing exactly what the people elected them to do. Stop everything Obama does. They’ll still be there November 7 very likely no matter who is president, so if O is elected, look forward to 4 more years like the last 2, i.e. absolutely no legislation being passed. No raising taxes on just the rich, no amnesty for illegals, no gay marriage, no cap and tax, just whatever he can weasel in around the edges with executive orders. His agenda stopped cold.
As for how it’s hurt me personally: My brother’s insurance has doubled due to being forced to cover crap he doesn’t want or need. He preferred the old one, but contrary to what Obama said he couldn’t keep it.
Another big way they planned to “pay” for Obamacare was by cutting reimbursements to doctors and hospitals for medicare/medicaide patients. The result is that doctors stop accepting those patients. Many I know personally have done so already.
Oh and one other thing: Clinton did work very much with congressional Republicans. They both compromised on their positions and left us a budget surplus, passed a broadly bipartisan welfare reform, etc. Obama hasn’t even had a budget since he’s been in office, the ones he’s submitted to congress didn’t even get one vote FROM HIS OWN PARTY. Shows you how keen on compromise he is.
Also, Clinton’s impeachment was over perjury (which is a crime, and he did commit) not for getting his pole polished in the oval office.
It’s dark out. It’s time for you to throw your feces at Romney yard signs now.
Yeah I’m a Troll – All I ask is that you come back here to post on Nov. 7. That’s all. And stay away from weapons or tall bridges.
So Obama and his fellow dems will try and blame Bill. I love this, is there any failure or disaster where Obama has not passed the blame onto somebody else. The real irony is clintons strategy was actually working. If, in the 1st debate, Obama had shown the same ability to frame convincing policy arguments, and the same energy, that Bill showed at the convention, Obama might well have gone on to win, despite the miserable failures of his record. Instead he was exposed as the empty suit, empty chair, that he is. Obama is not just a leftist, but a lazy arrogant incompetant narcisistic leftist. In a way that is good for us conservatives, because if Obama had been a more competant leftist, he would have won, and we would be in even worse trouble.
A couple of points.
The Bai argument, it seems to me, is wrong. The Obama people clearly wanted to run against Romney all along. Donna Brazile said as much on CNN once. And not as far as I can tell because of the flip flopping, none of which involved the economy, which they knew was their weakness. This is why we heard so much about the one percent. Who knows if they also gave support to OWS? In short they were always going to run this kind of campaign. Which btw does not strike me as so stupid. As a point of fact, it worked for a long time, and the race is still close. One thing I have not seen reported is why Obama agreed to three debates. Johnson did not debate Goldwater (I don’t think) when he ran a vilification campaign. Nixon also did not debate McGovern. That was not exactly analogous, but idea was to portray him as a far left liberal. Carter only debated once with Reagan, and apparently it cost him the election. Why did Obama agree to debate three times? Hubris?
Secondly, per Dionne, it’s worth noting that the social conservatives got everything they wanted at the convention. Phyllis Schlafly was ecstatic. In particular, gay rights groups got nothing. Yes, on some foreign policy issues, Romney soft soaped it in the third debate. What else was he going to do? The American people aren’t willing to support a Pax Americana policy in the Middle East. And so Romney needed to come up with something else. To his credit, he talked about Islamism in a way that made you think he was referring to the Islamic world more generally. In short, he seemed ready to make a kind of Notre Dame argument that has been so conspicuously lacking since 9/11.
Final point. What I am really looking for is how liberals handle things like affirmative action and Roe v. Wade. The first could fall with the present Court. The second if Romney gets to appoint a conservative to replace a liberal.
The history of the 20th century was the American left got what it wanted incrementally. Conservatives basically just called a timeout. But something tells me that this time, a broader conservative pushback may be in the offing.
Time will tell.
Oh, so it’s Mitch McConell’s fault? Add that one to the list, everyone.
Romney was always a center Rt. Only the stupid democrats did not know. How sad!
This is a dumb essay. And there have been several like it recently. “Commentary” had a prominent one a couple days ago. Why can’t this writer see the obvious? The liberal opinion leaders are trying to fire up their troops. The liberal line almost since 2008 has been that that the 2012 election is over. The fool who pretends he’s a pollster at the NYT declared the election over months ago saying there was more than a 90% chance Obama would win and so Republicans should stay home on 11/6/12. In his latest poll he now grudgingly and angrily concedes that now there is only a 71% chance Obama will win. That is pathetic and preposterous. Countless liberal talking heads across the country are now doing the same as Bai. Liberal opinion leaders are saying that if Obama doesn’t win they’re going to hold Bill and a long list of other prominent liberal politicians responsible. The spin is that these tools haven’t yet fallen hard enough on their swords for “The One”. The Obamabots are trying desperately to increase liberal turnout. Why isn’t this obvious? Too many conservatives, such as this writer, are gloating. That’s dumb. There’s still 11 days to go. Ignore the liberals, let ‘em rot. Focus on maximizing Republican turnout.
“It turns out that there was no profound ideological conversion of the country two years ago. We remain the same moderate and practical country we have long been.”
Fine. One problem with that analysis. The centerpiece legislation was written so that it would not kick in until AFTER the 2012 election. Just look at the institutions which have filed suit against the government, the citizens though have not felt anything different. This is by design.
“The right wing has lost the election of 2012.”
He’s right to a certain extent. Romney is not as conservative as most of us would have liked. But the important thing is that he’s not Obama. It’s Bill Buckley’s principle: the most conservative candidate who can win.
Maybe for the next Republican after Romney, when the Democrats run someone who isn’t a leftist fantasy fulfillment, we can get someone more conservative.
I saw and heard with my own eyes and ears during a television broadcast in Toledo, Ohio the Autumn of 2011 the following quote from President Obama, “America is no longer a Christian nation”. I think that Obama was truthful from his personal point of view, and the collective identity of the democrats as one single on line intelligence. However, what’s in a name? In my American experience, the voices that are an endless procession of sexually accosting slurs are the same voices that take the name of the salvation of the world, Jesus, in a cursed manner. Along with the relentless cursing and vulgar disdain that seems to encompasses the general parlance of the public, comes their arrogance and self righteousness. In keeping, the average consumer now has an electronic cognizance that operates in terms of the existential and carnal world.
In light of that, shouldn’t the democrats be thinking that a better, more in sync association exists between Romney and the computer term ROM (read only memory) than the relevance between Obama and Osama?