Voting for Santorum Equals Electing Obama in November!
There is a reason that the United Automobile Workers and its troops are urging its Michigan members to vote Tuesday in the crossover Michigan primary, and to cast their vote not for Barack Obama, but for Rick Santorum. They understand, as evidently many conservatives and Republicans do not comprehend, that Santorum as the Republican nominee would be nothing but a wonderful gift for the Democratic Party.
In an election year in which by all measurable standards Barack Obama should be toast, and when his major policy “achievement” of ObamaCare is detested by the public in all the polls, he is ahead in the same polls when pitted against any of the current crop of Republican candidates and gaining strength with every passing day. And even with rising gas prices — which of course will fall by November — and high unemployment, it is more than likely that the current occupant of the White House will indeed have a second term in office. If Rick Santorum is the nominee, it is a certainty that Obama will win.
Certainly, one can admire a great deal of Santorum’s firmness in standing for what he sincerely believes, as even Joe Klein admirably points out. True, Klein writes, he has been over the top, especially arguing that America today is more under the rule of Satan than in any of its past history. But, as Klein writes:
When you leave Hitler and Satan aside, there is something admirable about Santorum’s near Tourettic insistence on bringing up issues no one else wants to talk about. His position on education — that parents need to spend a lot more time supervising their children’s schooling — draws stifled groans from the overworked parents in his audiences, but he’s right: parents know best how their children learn. His emphasis on the importance of intact families is undoubtedly correct as well; every major study since the 1960s has shown the disaster that results from out-of-wedlock births. Even Santorum’s use of prenatal testing raises uncomfortable issues for many people. It was a sonogram that helped determine that the Santorums’ son Gabriel needed microsurgery in the womb to clear his bladder. Rick and Karen decided to fight for Gabriel’s life, which nearly cost Karen her own, and they passionately embraced the child during his two hours on earth. They have spent the past three years caring for their daughter Isabella, whose genetic defect, trisomy 18, is an early-death sentence.
And, as our colleague Michael Ledeen has reminded us, Santorum has a strong understanding of the major threat Iran is to the national security of the entire West, not just Israel and the United States. And he had that comprehension before anyone else, when saying this out loud was not particularly popular. As Ledeen writes:
Mr. Santorum believes the United States must lead the struggle for freedom throughout the world, on grounds of morality and national security, which he believes go hand in hand. He does not like the drift away from leadership and engagement in that struggle, especially under President Obama.
For these reasons, I would hope that if Mitt Romney becomes the nominee and somehow wins the presidency, he would appoint Santorum head of the National Security Council and John Bolton secretary of State. The two would be a strong and tough team that could change our disastrous foreign policy and finally develop one that would gain respect for our country throughout the world. But such a comprehension does not mean Santorum can win the White House in a general election.
The point has been well made by Kathleen Parker, who writes:
He’s so far out of step with the majority of Americans that he can’t hope to win the votes of moderates and independents so crucial to victory in November. The Republican Party’s insistence on conservative purity, meanwhile, will result in the cold comfort of defeat with honor and, in the longer term, potential extinction.
You can agree with Santorum’s total opposition to abortions for women in any case whatsoever, but if you look at how so many Republican women bolted in anger against the GOP when informed last week of the proposed Virginia legislation that would have forced vaginal insertion of a probe into a woman’s body, you get an indication of how national adoption of Santorum’s policies would create a storm. As Parker wrote:
When did Republicans, who supposedly believe in less government intervention, begin thinking that invading a person’s body against her will was remotely acceptable?
The debate with a Santorum candidacy would focus on his social views, and be about contraception, Catholic views of birth control, state enforced vaginal penetration of women’s bodies before abortion, and generally about Santorum himself. Forgotten will be the economy, jobs, unemployment, and foreign policy. The Democrats will simply make sure of this. Democrats will charge, falsely of course, that Republicans are campaigning against birth control, and to bolster their charge, they will pull out of the hat Santorum’s own complicated and difficult-to-understand views that he has expressed in the past. As Parker says, just look at the math. Sixty-seven percent of women are Democrats or independents, and more of them vote than men.
By nominating Santorum, it would make the election about cultural issues and cultural war, precisely what the Obama administration wants. Another woman journalist who calls Santorum on this is Jennifer Rubin, who once wrote at PJ Media and now is the conservative blogger at the Washington Post. As Rubin writes:
[Santorum] fumbled the contraception issue, going from a slam dunk (don’t mess with the First Amendment) to a dead-bang loser,”contraception harms women.” Then he really lost it — telling us college access is a plot and JFK’s vow not to take orders from the pope made him “throw up.”
What Kennedy was trying to do — many decades ago, when it was thought impossible for a Catholic to become president — was to assure voters that his religious faith and the beliefs he held would not interfere with his ability to keep church and state separate, and not make decisions that were not in the nation’s interest, even though they may conflict with his personal religious views. That assurance was necessary to make in that time and day, when people worried that a Catholic president would inflict Catholic dogma on the majority of non-Catholics. That Santorum saw reason to “throw up” at such remarks says that he does not subscribe to the perfectly reasonable standard that Kennedy professed.
Kennedy did not say, as Santorum argued, that “people of faith have no role in the public square,” but rather that the “separation of church and state is absolute” in the United States. To argue against JFK’s words, as Santorum does, is to give credence to the left-wing charge that Santorum and the Republican Party want a theocratic state.
How many women, not to say men, will want to vote for Santorum in a general election when he promises, as he did, that “one of the things I will talk about that no president has talked about. … It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in the sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be”? Doesn’t he know that most people, including many Catholics, use contraception? Hearing such words, doesn’t he raise the specter of growing state intervention on personal issues of morality, in which most voters do not want Big Brother looking into their bedrooms? Do they really want their president talking about this at all?
The truth is, if Romney does not come out of Michigan with a big win, the race will go on, and both Santorum and Gingrich will continue to blast Romney in as tough and nasty a fashion as they can, and Romney will in turn do the same to them, especially to Santorum. With months to go until all the delegates are elected, the harm will be done, and even if somehow the party comes together to stand behind Romney, it will be difficult by then to escape the damage that has been done. Democratic commercials will be filled with video of what Santorum and Gingrich had to say about Romney, and the only one who will have gained an advantage will be the present incumbent.
Should Romney not win, the election will not even be close. In any case, as it looks to me from our present vantage point, our nation is faced with another four years of President Obama. And yes, I hope I am wrong.
Update Tuesday morning:
According to news reports, the Santorum campaign is now encouraging the crossover vote in the Michigan Republican primary…with a robocall targeted at Democrats asking them to send a message to Mitt Romney because of his opposition to 2009 auto bailouts that kept thousands of Michigan workers employed.”
This is particularly reprehensible and moreover dishonest, given that Santorum’s position on the issue of opposition to bailouts is the same as that of Romney. Moreover, a Michigan Democratic strategist admitted that “Santorum is completely radioactive and will bring an electoral disaster to Republicans- he could deliver Obama in a landslide,” which is why he admits that he “has launched one of the efforts to help Santorum.” The article continues to point out that a Democrat vote for Santorum in the Republican primary could give him “a big win.” 12,000 Democratic activists indicated interest in voting for him.






This article is either satire or nonsense.
“Santorum’s near Tourettic insistence on bringing up issues no one else wants to talk about.”
Really? My circles most certainly want to talk about these issues.
Now the satire possibility.
Is this article intended to be a satire of what someone entirely out of touch and living in New York City thinks?
It must be tough going through life with virtually no reading comprehension. You write, “My circles most certainly want to talk about these issues.” Well, then, they must be really important. What we discuss with our friends (or, in your grandiose rhetoric, our “circles”!) has nothing to do with the issues of national importance that determine elections. My “circles” sometimes discuss our mayor — but his idiotic policies have nothing to do with the issues on which all voting Americans will be deciding who our next president should be.
As a Catholic and a Republican, I can assure you that Rick Santorum does not speak for me, or anyone in my church for that matter. I remember that statement by JFK and he was right. For Santorum to be either too young or too stupid to understand Kennedy’s point speaks badly for him. Very badly.
Your notion that the election of 2012 should be based on social issues which are in the purview of the Congress and the Supreme Court and not the president show how divorced from reality you are. Professor Radosh is exactly right and you and your “circle” are out to lunch. Just keep believing that the Republican candidate can win by telling women what they can and cannot do and you’ll be living in Obamaland for another four years, pal.
You can put all the Roman numerals after your sock puppet’s name you want but it won’t fool any readers into thinking you know what you’re talking about. The economy and foreign policy (whether the next president will stand up to a nuclear Iran) will decide this election. Santorum can go on his ego trip talking about contraception for the next few weeks until he’s battered by voters living in the real USA for whom those issues were decided decades ago and on which every couple in a free country can decide on their own without the advice of a father of seven.
Ask yourself why Santorum couldn’t even be re-elected to the Senate by his own constituents who knew him best.
Here’s another reason he’s entirely inappropriate to be President: he’s too angry. He can’t discuss anything without losing his temper. He’s a time bomb waiting to go off, and even when interviewed last night by Sean Hannity, he lost his cool. He’s a terrible candidate and is making it more difficult for Catholic candidates to get elected with his attitudes and prejudices.
Sure, he may speak to and for you, but thank God, all voters aren’t clones of “martin truex III”.
Santorum is so out of touch with reality that he’s the satire of a Republican candidate. Prof. Radosh is a clear-eyed realist and where you get the idea that he’s writing from NYC is beyond me.
It’s that reading comprehension thing, again. You really need to work on that, Marty.
You want *angry*, Mary? How about “Mad Man” Romney, after hearing that Democrats are voting for Santorum in an OPEN primary.
“Oh, BOO HOO! Waaaaaah!!!”: That’s Romney *anger* for ya……….
You ever stop and think why the democrats might be doing this? You think they could maybe have internal polls that confirm what the author of this post is saying? I think they do.
Are Dems voting for Santorum b/c they LOVE him? NO. They’re voting for him b/c they love Obama. With St. Rick as the candidate, Obama wins another 4 in a cakewalk.
What alot of ridiculous rhetoric. That is exactly what has gotten us into, I guess hopefully, a civil war? What a waste of time. It looks as though you’ve done alot of that. Wake up, foolish americans.
If you’re NOT angry about ObamaCare, “chess” (like Mittens told you you shouldn’t be…), you should vote for Obama.
Anger is human…normal, given the appropriate context.
Romney is a worthless, spineless-yet-extremely-wealthy (to cover for his weaknesses)- egotist who happened to choose the GOP to run for power-and-amusement.
THE REST OF US ARE *NOT* AMUSED.
John F. Kennedy was a Catholic in name only. He was a committed secularist. The man was even pro-abortion. JFK’s speech to the Baptist ministers left much to be desired—but this is beside the point. It might be worth discussing over a few beers at the end of the evening—but not during a presidential campaign in 2012! Rick Santorum is foolish for allowing the debate over church-state issues get in the way of the economy and Islamic extremism.
It is wrong that one side can vote in the other’s campaign election. There are no rights to this, none.
Robo calls aside…democrats will go out and vote for the person they know obama will be able beat.
The rhetoric is silly . We really need to take all this serious…unless you folks out there want to be in a food line holding your prayer rug in a couple of years…we are allowing the democrats to pick our candidates..
Mary lass you picked a beautiful name from the old sod. Me thinks however your real first name is something more like Buffy or Amber light. Come on fess up.
Interesting that you would use the term “angry” to describe Rick Santorum, when it seems to describe your own views so aptly. Romney supporters seem to have given up on the idea of supporting their candidate with reason, and now are simply “angry” that those who don’t hold the same view can’t see the “truth”. One of the distinctions that Ruling Class establishment Republicans find so difficult to understand is the difference between Republican and Conservative. To many conservatives outside the cocoon of the Beltway, it is apparently NOT obvious that Romney is the only hope to defeat Obama. Most of them are working hard to support their candidates through the primary process, which has just started!! With all due respect to Professor Radosh, there are many conservatives who believe that “separation of church and state”, which is not in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence, is not “absolute” – freedom from a state-sponsored religion does not imply the absence of moral principles in deliberation, enaction, and interpretation of the laws that govern our society. Personal decisions on contraception, abortion and sexual preferences are a matter for personal faith, or non-faith. How a Catholic deals with the laws of their faith is a personal decision and a personal responsibility. Rick Santorum has stated, as did Kennedy, that his personal faith decisions have not and will not affect his votes as an elected representative. That does not mean that he has no right to let people know what he believes.
Here’s what is obvious – Professor Radosh is a Romney supporter (as, apparently, are you) and he is using all the negative stereotypes about Rick Santorum being floated by the Republican establishment in government and the media to hasten his coronation. The reality in Michigan is this: if Romney wants those conservative and Reagan Democrat votes, he needs to go out and try to get them. Mudslinging isn’t working anymore!!
The reality in Michigan is this: if Romney wants those conservative and Reagan Democrat votes, he needs to go out and try to get them.
He’s off to a great start, lol:
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/28/romney-its-very-easy-to-excite-the-base-with-incendiary-comments/
Mary,
As a liberal Democrat, I appreciate your reply to Mr. Radosh’s commentary. If this election is about cultural war issues, President Obama win by a landslide. If Santorum is the GOP nominee, President Obama be an even bigger landslide. The majority of Americans don’t want a President who thinks Vatican II was too liberal. I have not always agreed with President Obama, but he is miles better than Gingrich or Santorum. If you want to make this Democrat happy, please nominate one of them.
Mary Mary quite contrary.
Let’s invert the statement and look closer at Mitt, the self-declared conservative:
1. Pro-gun control: signed into law a permanent assault weapon ban in 2004 (also supported the Brady Bill)
2. Pro-abortion until he desired to run for president (this year he refused the Susan B. Anthony pledge, yeah, 2012); perhaps still a closet pro-abortion fellow.
3. Pro-gay rights short of marriage (would not reinstate dont ask dont tell); he actually ran left of Ted Kennedy in 1994 stating he would be a stronger supporter of gay issues than his opponents
4. Supports the Departments of Education and the EPA
5. Wrote that he believes in man-made global warming in his 2010 book AND the govt should take steps to reduce emmissions
6. 1994 debate he said he would support a federal bill which included an insurance mandate on health care (so much for the supposed state mandate is good, federal mandate is bad position he takes now).
7. Supported and signed into law Romneycare, which has failed to control costs and provide universal coverage (cost increases are double the national rate and 1/2 to 2/3 of those who were not covered prior to the law still aren’t).
8. Supports a species of amnesty for illegal aliens (they would register, pay taxes and apply for citizenship rather than be deported).
9. Raised “revenues” in Mass largely through fee increases
Before you write off Rick, you might want to consider the ridiculous notion that Mitt is a conservative. He says he is. If that is good enough for you, fine. It isn’t for me.
Bless your little heart, Mary! Your wildeyed rant is precisely why females were not allowed to vote until less than a century ago- and good evidence for a return to that happy prohibition. As soon as I am elected Emperor, that is the very first Executive Order I will sign into effect.The second will be to remind you and others that Congress, NOT POTUS, legislates. President Santorum cannot personally control your misuse of your faculties, whatever those may be. But he can encourage Cogress to pass a law which punishes vicious bitches for murdering their innocent, unborn children. Of course, amoral and CFR members, they will not do so.But we do agree that Santorum is probably unelectable. He is a good man and our electorate is reprobate. As the mob preferred Barabbas to our Lord, Jesus Christ, so our nest of vipers electorate prefers Obama and even Romney, to Santorum.
And leaves us with a choice between two CFR member-puppets; Obama and Romney. The black communist and the white communist; both committed to treason and betrayal of our Constitution and the Godgiven rights delineated in it.Which traitor do you prefer?
Your circles want to talk about the federal government’s role in contraception, martin? And you find Ron Radosh incomprehensibly out of touch?
Reminds me of Pauline Kael’s notorious remark on Richard Nixon. “I don’t know anyone who voted for him.” Your echo chamber won’t stop Obama, martin.
Arhooley, You know better than that. He means they are discussing government infringement on religious liberty, i.e. forcing religious institutions to include abortofacients and contraceptives in their health care plans. No one, repeat no one wants to outlaw contraceptives, for Pete’s sake. The bishops are ready to shut down services rather than submit to the imperial orders. That’s worth discussing, wouldn’t you think?
We”re dealing with an administration that thinks it can ignore the constitution and the declaration of independence. Don’t you think we deserve an honest candidate with the guts to attack this president not only on his failed economic policies, but his blatant attempt to allocate more and more power to an executive bureaucracy, thereby little by little diminishing personal liberty.
Economic collapse or the collapse of liberty. Which will occur first? But Mitt Romney doesn’t want to set his hair on fire. The First Amendment, the Second Amendment, both under attack. 50% of people pay no federal taxes and many of these dependent on the federal government. When does it become too late to change course? When in the future will ballots be useless to save this Republic? Is this what our forefathers meant when they spoke of a second revolution?
To martin Truex.
““Santorum’s near Tourettic insistence on bringing up issues no one else wants to talk about.”
Really? My circles most certainly want to talk about these issues. ”
I expect your circle is mostly radical evangelical socons. I agree you are not nobody, but you are hardly a majority either. You comprise maybe 40% of repubs, and less than 20% of the national electorate. The rest of us agree with the author of this article, and are indeed sick of constantly hearing about this devisive social issue BS, especially in a year when “its the economy stupid” and the economy and out of control spending is Obamas main weakness.
Well then, take your medicine! You may not want to hear about social issues, but you don’t have a choice. The economy is impossible to fix while we continue to get social issues wrong. How do you propose we fix this economy while we kill off a quarter of the next generation?
It may come as a shock to you, Richard, but some of us fools actually believe that it is more important to be right with God than it is to be popular and affluent.Our focus is on pleasing Him, our Creator and Savior. Yours ain’t.
That means we live indifferent worlds, a condition which will obtain eternally.
And which no one will find amusing.
Little Ricky Santorum will have justified his candidacy if he materially damages Mitt Romney, the Progressive that Walks Almost Like a Man. Once Santorum kills off the Romney candidacy, Gingrich can take out Santorum and drive on to victory.
The only people who want Romney are Leftists, whether in the Republican or the Democratic Party. Both want someone who can lose gracefully to Obama.
Santorum is a moron; he has permitted the Democrats and their wholly-owned media to sucker him into running on contraception issues instead of Obama’s dismal stewardship. Romney is not going to do any better if—God forbid—he gets nominated. Gingrich is the only man of the four currently standing who has the brains, the verbal prowess, and the experience to stand up against Obama.
“The only people who want Romney are Leftists….”
An environmentalists of all stripes. I mean, what other candidate can tell you when a tree’s height is just right?
To which I will add, for all the trembly-bowelled out there: what the HELL is the GOP doing permitting crossover voting? Why should there be anybody running around peeping like Chicken Fricken Little, worrying about people coming into the primary trying to game the damned system?
We’ve had open/crossover voting in Iowa; in New Hampshire; in South Carolina. We’ve got it now in Michigan. It was supposed to give the GOP the nice, safe, stupid, guaranteed-loser Next Guy in Line (i.e., Mitt). Ain’t workin’ that way, now, is it? Why is the party so damned terrified of its own members that it has to try and game the voting by permitting open primaries and front-loading them in the primary process?
Scrap it. The primary process is supposed to choose a genuine party standard-bearer, not some mushmouth.
Depending on the state, that may not be within the power of the party to stop. In Washington, this has been to the Supreme Court, at least once. Both parties want a closed primary, but it’s illegal.
While recognizing that I may potentially be exposing my flank by saying so without having read the relevant decision, I must reject—on commonsense grounds—both the proposition that the party elites want closed primaries and the proposition that it would be in any way illegal to have them.
I suspect that in our modern day of wan, anemic parties-in-name-only, that the party elites are all for the “open primary” system, both because it gives each party an opportunity to game its opponent’s selection and because the party elites are so clueless as to believe that a strong crossover vote for Hopeful X indicates that Hopeful X has a chance in the general election. In short, we would not have open primaries—something I cannot imagine even existing even so recently as fifty years ago—if the party elites did not want them.
That said, I have to say that any court case which holds that it is somehow illegal to hold a closed primary should be easily overturned (even if “easily” involves considerable time and expense). The only basis on which any court could possibly rule that a closed primary is illegal is if it were somehow determined to be a “denial of equal protection” to permit only party members to vote in a party primary. Such a proposition is on its face absurd—as absurd as suggesting that the general public has a “right” to vote in corporate proxy-castings.
the “open primary” gambit is a tactic meant to keep true conservatives from ever seeing the light of day as the squishes and commies (masked as moderates) seek to “bridge the differences” of the 2 parties and rise above the fray
the establishment, for obvious reasons, is all for it while those who despise the status quo can easily see the ruination such a set-up can usher in
snork, I am afraid you are dead wrong. Florida has closed primaries. If Florida can have them, why not other states? This is from an information(FAQ) blog for FL voters:
“Is Florida a closed primary state?
Yes. Florida is a closed primary state. Only voters who are registered members of political parties may vote for respective party candidates for an office in a primary election. That is why it is important to indicate your preferred party affiliation at the time you register. If you leave the field blank on the registration form, you will be registered without party affiliation.However, there are times when all registered voters can vote in a primary election, regardless of which major or minor political party they are registered or even if they are registered without a specific party affiliation:
If all the candidates for an office have the same party affiliation and the winner of the primary election will not face any opposition in the general election (i.e. no write-in candidates have qualified), then all registered voters can vote for any of the candidates for that office in the primary election.
If races for nonpartisan (i.e., free from party affiliation) judicial and school board offices, nonpartisan special districts or local referendum questions are on the primary election ballot, then all registered voters, including those without party affiliation are entitled to vote those races on the ballot.
At a general election, all registered voters receive the same ballot and may vote for any candidate or question on the ballot. If there are write-in candidates who have qualified for a particular office, a space will be left on the ballot where their name can be written.
I presume that the State is saying, “if you want to use our voting apparatus, you have to let anyone vote”. The solution then would be to bite the bullet and hold the primary with private funds and locations. I think it’s worth it.
I wonder if this is related to the fight against the old whites-only Democratic primaries in the South?
Ultimately Mitt will be the candidate.
Santorum has done a great job of awakening the Catholics and Evangelicals he will ultimately endorse Mitt and bring those massive votes with him
He should be rewarded with the VP slot.
The US Military overwhelmingly support Ron Paul, Mitt will integrate Ron Pauls messages into his new and improved platform.
At heart Mitt will be a Realist in his domestic and foreign policies
–this is what both the Independent and Republican voters want.
Polemical Horsecr*p is your specialty, I see.
You’re an ass monkey! Did you forget to take your meds today? This is the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time!
You’re an ass monkey!”
As I am sure is the case with many readers of the PJM columnists, I often feel that I get as much from the commenters as I do the authors. “You’re an ass monkey!” How profound and enlightening. I just wish to comment that I am overwhelmed by your command of the language and obvious intellectual prowess. Wow! Yep, I sure am. Why, you are right up there with…..? I dunno. I can’t think of anyone at the moment.
VP slot is being bought and paid for in Michigan by Ron Paul. Why do you think he is running anti-santorum adds when he’s not on the ballot.
I don’t know, why are people running anti-Santorum ads in Virginia when Santorum isn’t on the ballot in Virginia?
When I voted today all of the original nine
candidates where on the ballot.
Ron Paul had 2000 at a rally in Ann Arbor, Michigan
yesterday.
I’m still trying to figure out the source of the delusion that Romney is “electable.”
You mean other than basic common sense?
What “basic common sense” would that be? Romney can’t even get a clear majority of his own (supposed) party.
Why would anybody sane consider this stammering, temporizing cipher to be a potentially-successful national candidate?
Yep. Republican voters have tried on everyone else in a desperate attempt to get anyone other than Romney, and he is supposed to be electable?
Well, they are all electable. Any one of them will beat Obama in the Fall. They just all have their weaknesses. In the end, it will not matter. The Republican nominee shall win.
Another one that forgot to take their meds today? Any GOP nominee among the current crop will be crushed by Obama. It will be nonstop crush and destroy …
Well then, Cynical, there’s no point in arguing then. If none of them has a chance, it doesn’t matter who we nominate, and the best case scenario is a brokered convention drafting Huckabee instead.
I’ll go myth one better. Why even bother blogging, if one has foreknowledge that the worst POTUS in American history will be re-elected {see: J. Carter the peanutiest, but not the worst).
I think in very much the same way that the Dems know that all Dems will vote for Obama, Romney supporters are counting on GOPers to vote for Romney in the end. I wonder if that simplistic analysis will hold up.
It won’t hold up for me. If Flip Romney is the Republican nominee I will be voting for Gary Johnson. I have voted for the R every time before… not this time
It funny to watch Mitt the electable whine about “outsiders” voting for his opponent.
If someone can explain to me why the leftist national media has attacked Bachman (Newsweek cover etc), and Cain (unsubstantiated allegations) and Gingrich (ABC interview with ex-wife) and Santorum (remember the furor over his child that died, and now “contraception”) but they have hardly laid a glove on Romney – THEN I might entertain the possibilty that Romney is indeed electable.
ALL the others have gone through the firestorm of the MSM’s “takedown” arsenal. Why not Romney?
Exactly. The media is doing the exact same thing they did for McCain in 2008, ignoring Romney’s faults, propping up his so-called positives (of which he actually has NONE), and attacking all of his opponents so that the Republican party will once again select the “moderate” to try and appeal to the other side.
Oh, by the way… THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IN THE CONSTITUTION. Freedom of speech, yes. Freedom to practice your religion, yes. Prevents the federal government from establishing a national religion, yes. Nowhere in that entire document does it state there is a separation of Church and State. Heck, if religion was so antithetical to their thought processes we would not have “In God We Trust” printed on our money! The separation of Church and State is NOT absolute.
The fact Santorum was willing to support attacking the Taliban and Iraq proves that he does not hold himself to follow every direction from the Pope, so anyone trying to say that he would do so is misrepresenting the truth. Last I checked there is no rule to stating what you believe in. Show me where Santorum said he would use the government to force his beliefs on other people, all I’m finding is his statements on what he believes.
ALL the others have gone through the firestorm of the MSM’s “takedown” arsenal. Why not Romney?
They’re assuming that he’ll be the nominee and saving their fire until after the convention, when it will do the most damage
What is the signature Obama issue most disliked by voters of all stripes?
Obamacare.
What is the one issue Mittens Romneycare cannot run against?
Obamneycare.
Nobody is going to pay any attention to his Tenth Amendment bullhooey. He’s a supporter of socialized medicine running against a supporter of socialized medicine. Are Romneybots insane?
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner:
Romney = ObamaCare off the tables
(don’t tell me you actually believe what Mittens says about it, do you?!?)
You may be underestimating the stupidity of the average American voter. I think that person is typified by an acquaintance of mine, who voted for George Bush because “He seems like a nice guy.” She voted for Obama because he’s Black. Back in the halcyon days, I asked her what she thought of Rick Perry. She didn’t know who he was. She lives in Texas.
She has recently weighed Romney and found that “He seems like a nice guy.”
Our best hope is to nominate Romney in the hope that he’ll bring West onto the ticket to mollify the idiots who are guilty about race, and appoint a hardassed cabinet who will keep him from being his unprincipled self. We can hang in that way for eight years until Rubio restores the shining city on the hill.
BINGO. Mittens cannot win a general election. Period. Because of Romneycare, he’s less electable than Ron Paul. He’s even less electable than Buddy Roemer.
Got to agree with Mr. Quick – the willingness and ability to repeal Obamacare is the most significant issue for the Republican nominee. It is Romney’s Achilles Heel — and its Not Covered.
There is so much other damage being done by Uncle Obamin as well, but undoing the Post Officication of health care gets more difficult with each plassing month.
Where’s the Tylenol ?
Newt has clear plans by which the American People can restore our country to PROSPERITY and the Constitution. It’s written down. Everyone can understand this plan. It’s in Newt’s speeches. If you’re ready, here are two links.
Newt’s amazing 2009 speech, “2012: VICTORY OR DEATH” — including: George Washington. 1776. The Delaware. The Hessians, who were NOT drunk. American History & Current Events. Predictions about 2010 election. Plan for 2012 and beyond. The lost opportunity of 2004. The true meaning of 2006. What it means to be an American. Why anyone can be an American. What we mean by “American Exceptionalism.”
This speech has been a game-changer for many Americans in this primary. http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2009/11/part-ii-part-iii-part-iv.html
Find out for yourself. Think for yourself.
And here is how we get to $2.50 per gallon gas and full employment.
“FULL AMERICAN ENERGY, INDEPENDENCE AND PROSPERITY: HOW WE DO IT”
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/02/28-minutes-to-energy-independence/#comments
NEWT: AMERICAN ENERGY 28:59 – MONEY IN YOUR POCKET
Think for yourself.
Find out, if you’re ready to know.
Now, Mr. Quick, What do you think is more likely to happen if Romney is elected president,
…that the REPUBLICAN congress and senate are going to implement Romneycare at the federal level? …or that the Republican congress and senate will vote to repeal Obamacare (which Romney has already stated as his goal –to repeal Obamacare)?
The point is if Obama is re-elected, even if the Republicans gain control of both houses of Congress, Obamacare will remain the law of the land. We will be stuck with it. Our only chance of ridding Obamacare is if Republicans take the White House along with both houses of Congress. It’s real simple, if Santorum gets nominated, we are going to lose our chance to get the White House.
I now know why, Mr. Radosh, that you keep reverting to your Leftist tendencies. You keep reading the opinions of others with the same tendencies. The folks you quoted are typical of the breed. They parrot the Conventional Wisdom of the Republican Establishment.
Let me offer this. SoCons also deserve to be represented. If you are not vocal about this stuff, you will lose the election, because you lose the base of the Right. McCain paid lip-service to it, but he offended Conservatives in so many ways. bush was unimpeachably a SoCon, and he got elected twice. Reagab was very strong in his SoCon beliefs. You cannot win without it.
All this angst abut how the Left will attack a SoCon, and you miss the fact that they will ruthlessly attack whomever is the nominee. If it is not the women, it will be some other group.
You simply have to win the Republican base before you can win the general. You have to talk about these SoCon things. We cannot run away from our greatest strength because of the big scary Left. It’s time to stand our ground for once.
They say the recent convert is the most zealous. Unfortunately, that is not true for Conservatives. The former Leftists simply cannot shake their past ways of thinking. Those of us Conservatives who never dallied with the Left are always the strongest Conservatives.
The really odd thing is that you admit that Santorum is right, but you say he should stay away. What? How are we going to fix any of the problems, if the subjects are taboo? What would be the point? Do you want to fix things, or do you just want to get the other bunch of government parasites elected?
Screw Conventional Wisdom, because it is a wholly-owned construct of the Left. It’s how we got to this low point in the first place. Nothing changes, if nothing changes. Romney is more of the same. Santorum just might break the cycle, if only a little bit.
Marc Malone, this is a vicious attack on Ronald Radosh, and more than that, it’s just plain off the wall. It is so ad hominem and so clueless it’s hard to know where to begin. I’ll paste your wishful thinking and vituperative comment and then answer it, point by stupid point:
“I now know why, Mr. Radosh, that you keep reverting to your Leftist tendencies.”
Professor Radosh, not unlike Roger L. Simon and many of us, has seen the light. But people like you, who disagree with some of his writings, think it appropriate to smear him with the views he held as a younger man. WHAT KIND OF SH*T IS THAT? I find it admirable that Prof. Radosh has made the difficult journey from Left to Right. You want to use his journey as a means of ripping him to shreds.
It’s you, Marc Malone, who ends up covered with your own attack-juice. You can’t make an argument worth its salt, so you descend into your basement of ad hominem nastiness and write a line like that. Shame on you.,
“Let me offer this. SoCons also deserve to be represented. If you are not vocal about this stuff, you will lose the election, because you lose the base of the Right. McCain paid lip-service to it, but he offended Conservatives in so many ways. bush was unimpeachably a SoCon, and he got elected twice. Reagan was very strong in his SoCon beliefs. You cannot win without it.”
What tripe. Reagan was a divorced man who never went to church., The SoCons can elect members to the House and Senate. The President has to be the C-i-C and his social views are nothing compared to his backbone and temperament.
If SoCons, of whom I am one, had any brains to go along with their social views, they would, first and foremost, understand the job of the Chief Executive. It isn’t to prevent abortions or stop the sale of condoms. It’s to deal with the economy, the military and foreign policy.
“You simply have to win the Republican base before you can win the general. You have to talk about these SoCon things. We cannot run away from our greatest strength because of the big scary Left. It’s time to stand our ground for once.”
These are local issues, like education. They should be kept off the national agenda. They are, whether you like it or not, minority views. Just because they’re your views doesn’t mean you are anywhere near a majority –even of REPUBLICANS, much less Independents who will determine the outcome in 2012.
“They say the recent convert is the most zealous. Unfortunately, that is not true for Conservatives. The former Leftists simply cannot shake their past ways of thinking. Those of us Conservatives who never dallied with the Left are always the strongest Conservatives.”
Intolerant, ad hominem stupidity.
“Screw Conventional Wisdom, because it is a wholly-owned construct of the Left. It’s how we got to this low point in the first place. Nothing changes, if nothing changes. Romney is more of the same. Santorum just might break the cycle, if only a little bit.”
You’re unhappy, Marc. We all get that. Every comment you post drips of your frustration. But guess what? Professor Radosh has more common sense and wisdom in one of his sentences than you do in your entire comments. You come across as a nasty, frustrated, angry guy looking for a target on which to practice your shots.
You represent the worst tendencies of the Internet, to take pot shots at reasonable people who have made reasonable arguments that you’re not bright enough to counter without descending to ad hominem attacks. I thought they were supposed to be against PJMedia’s comment rules. I guess calling a Conservative a Leftist passes through their filters. It doesn’t pass muster with me.
“You represent the worst tendencies of the Internet, to take pot shots at reasonable people who have made reasonable arguments that you’re not bright enough to counter without descending to ad hominem attacks.”
Wow, can you say “Pot meet Kettle”
Mark posted a well reasoned comment and you go democrat on him. Accusing him of the very thing your whole post drips with.
Good God, Mary: so many words for so much of nothing to say.
Do you work for that (MSM or New) media which has been telling us for 6 months that Romney is “inevitable”?!? Oh golly…Ad Hominem.
My bad. You’re worse.
I have been commenting here a long time, and time to time, I get some real attaboys from the folks here. Many of my contributions have gone on to become part of the national dialogue, so they seem to be of some value.
Also, now and then, I get a response like yours. You scold me, and I am okay with that. I even listen. I can take what I dish out.
Yes, Radosh has seen the light, but that doesn’t necessarily break habits of thought. I call him on it whenever he strays back to habitual thinking. I have done this numerous times, and he has yet to complain or bar my posts. Still, I understand your desire to defend him. After all, I do appreciate some of his writing, too.
So, let me respond specifically to your critique of me. Let’s look at your response to #1 rather than to my own, first. Here is your very first line, “It must be tough going through life with virtually no reading comprehension.”
Ad. Hominem.
He understood just fine. He simply disagreed. What you did is what the Left does: “If you do not agree, you are stupid.” And you did it with a sneering, patronizing style.
Yet you accuse ME of ad hominem.
As others pointed out, my post was well-reasoned. It is not ad hominem to tell Mr. Radosh he is thinking like the Left again. If you post an argument from the Left, it is not ad hominem to say you are doing so.
FWIW, Reagan did go to church. He did not go very often as President, because of security concerns. Remember, he was shot just a few months into his first term. But he spoke passionately about God and Conservative values. See his speeches. Read his writings.
Yes, the President is supposed to deal with moral concerns. Bush, for example, had to deal with the whole embryo issue. It was specifically a moral question, because if you look at it from just a science aspect, you just go right ahead with it, just like Dr. Mengele did with the Jews. Science has to be tempered by moral restraints.
So, Bush had to decide this. Read or watch his speech on this. He carefully weighed both sides of it. Throughout, you could not tell which side he was going to come down on. His reasoning was thorough, and I believe, correct.
The President also chooses Supreme Court nominees. The moral question comes into play, then, too, because often the Justices have to decide these very things, and they, too, have to take into account morality. Abortion. Death penalty. Preservation of life. The President chooses those who choose.
One cannot divorce morality from government, or we get where we are now. Do we really want our leaders going around without those angels on their shoulders whispering in their ears, telling them when they are crossing the line? That’s what we have, today. Our business leaders say, “It’s just business.”… as if right and wrong have nothing to do with it. Our political leaders say, “It’s just the way the game is played.”… again, as if right and wrong have no meaning. Check your values at the door.
I believe moral clarity to be the first requirement of a President. I have to be able to trust him. This is true of any representative of mine. I do not think this is an unreasonable position. Do you?
I find Santorum’s willingness to stand up (and stand tall!) for what he believes, to be very refreshing and reassuring. It means I can listen to his other words with some confidence, and trust that he means what he says.
Now, he may never have to make a decision on these social issues as President… but then again, he just may. They are certainly not the major issues of the day, but it still reveals the character of the man. It lets me see who he is, because he wears it on his sleeve. I have problems with his qualifications for office, but I do not have any question about his character. The social issues help clarify that, even if they may never come up in actual governance. Call it a shibboleth, if you will.
So, yes, these things do matter very much to me and the very, very many millions just like me. We are the biggest voting bloc on the Right. You cannot just ignore our standards and expect our support. We have to be represented. You cannot get elected without us.
You can follow the narrative pushed by the Left. You can try to set us aside so as not to offend the God-haters and the foolish women who think we will take away their birth control (all of whom vote Dem, anyway), but if you do, you will lose. Which is why the Left pushes the narrative in the first place, of course. They want the Right to pander to the wrong groups and ignore the right groups.
SoCon issues are winners, because people want a moral leader, someone who shares our traditional American values. We do not want a man of low character as our President, however competent he may be, because, as sure as the Sun rises in the East, he will do something which truly, deeply offends us… like step on our religious freedoms, because his moral compass is broken.
From your first post, “I can assure you that Rick Santorum does not speak for me, or anyone in my church for that matter.” As a matter of fact, every single Catholic Bishop and Archbishop publicly shares Santorum’s position. So, yes, he does speak for your church. It is you who are out of step with your church doctrine, not Santorum.
I have a buddy who is Catholic, and he thinks Santorum crazy for saying that Satan is attacking America. So, I asked him, “Do you believe in Satan?” His answer was, “No.” “Well, that’s the problem.”, I said, “because your church DOES believe in Satan. You are ignoring your own Doctrine. Santorum is not the problem, here; You are.”
I say the same to you, Madame. You shriek in defense of your birth control, all the while proclaiming you are Catholic. Well, you are Catholic, except for the parts which interfere with all your sinning. Santorum lives his Catholic beliefs, and you don’t. But he’s the problem. Riiigghhtt.
You know what is the funny thing? No one is actually proposing to take away your birth control, and it wouldn’t be politically viable if they tried. You are getting overwrought about what is basically a philosophical/theological discussion. Santorum speaks Catholic Doctrine, and you, a Catholic, take offense. Weird. I think you just have a problem with your own church.
Attaboy!!!
haha attaboy/ditto/seconded
have always liked marc malone’s comments from the first day i ever came upon this site
Well said, and as a fellow SoCon, I don’t think I could agree more! WTG Marc.
Attaboy in spades. Your comments put Ron’s in the shade.
I have a buddy who is Catholic, and he thinks Santorum crazy for saying that Satan is attacking America. So, I asked him, “Do you believe in Satan?” His answer was, “No.” “Well, that’s the problem.”, I said, “because your church DOES believe in Satan. You are ignoring your own Doctrine. Santorum is not the problem, here; You are.”
That’s the church’s problem, or your buddy’s problem, or your problem, marc. It’s not America’s problem.
So, Malone, you think it’s the job of a presidential candidate to engage, on the campaign trail, in “theological/philosophical discussion”? …To “speak Catholic Doctrine”? …Really?!?
Just how badly do you and your “Attaboy!” fans want to get Obama re-elected? (You and your pals are getting paid by the Committee to Re-elect Obama, aren’t you?)
There are a lot of issues that the President will be dealing with in the next four-year term, like whether or not to repeal Obamacare, or how we are going to solve our debt crisis and save our economy. He will have the chance to appoint perhaps two justices on the Supreme Court (one or two current justices will be retiring due to old age).
But, what you care about is that your nominee will spout “Catholic Doctrine” to a nation that is 75% not-Catholic (…not to mention that most Catholics, apparently, aren’t very doctrinaire!)!!!
Terrific! Yeah, “attaboy!” Obama for four more years!!
JOELM, No one is going “to spout Catholic doctrine.” Santorum and millions of others reacted to an assault on religious liberty. The contraception business is the MSM playing “gotcha” with Rick, and he is foolish to expound on it. Stick to the religious liberty point and the first amendment.
However, many people like to see a man who is not ashamed of his moral beliefs. Rick Santorum is a man of conviction who won’t be caught in lies when you compare what he says, a day, a month, or years later; unlike Obama and Romney. He also has the guts to take the battle to Obama [as does Gingrich], but Romney doesn’t. Romney just said that he won’t stir up his base by attacking Obama. I guess he wants to be a gentle warrior like John McCain. That got us far.
Try again. When Santorum IS ASKED for his personal views on something, he answers straightforwardly — unlike most politicians. Further, he is upfront that this aligns with his Catholic faith. His expressing those views doesn’t mean he will insist on enthroning those views into law. It’s absurd to take his personal statements of Catholic faith and turn them into “the sky is falling! don’t elect Santorum or the Pope will rule!!”
One is a Catholic if one (first) accepts Catholic Doctrine. Too many people seem to think it’s the other way around, and that Catholics accept Catholic Doctrine blindly just because the Church teaches it.
LOL!
So, using your rights to speak out your ideas -however ugly for you, is “a vicious attack” on Ron Radosh? You are just a tyrant wannabe. You cry foul for the smearing of Ron ideas but you engage in the same “kind of sh*t”.
How about calming down and start showing some coherence?
All these disagreements are normal during election time, specially during election time.
haha, Mary, you’re democrat is showing.
Mary, you are one angry woman. Marc Malone never crossed the line of decorum. He is a perfect gentleman in his assessment of the opinions of Mr. Radosh. All the insulting language is found in your attack on Marc. You are doing no favors to your own reputation, if you intend to comment here in the future.
“Marc Malone, this is a vicious attack on Ronald Radosh…”
No it isn’t. It is simply a disagreement along with reasons why.
Sorry, Mary. You’re off base on this one, except for the point that social issues should be handled at a more local level. But that’s exactly what Santorum would do. Right now we DO need to talk about these things at a national level, precisely BECAUSE the Democrats and the establishment Republicans have appropriated to the federal government what belongs to the states or local governments.
Well said Marc!
Don’t blame Santorum’s poll numbers in Michigan on a UAW/Democratic conspiracy:
“Santorum Admits Using Robocall to Get Democrats to Vote in the Michigan GOP Primary” — PJM
So I wonder how that feels to all the Santorum backers. To have Union Democratic voters voting for Santorum so Romney doesn’t win. Is that simple enough for them to understand? I wonder.
So wait, let me get this straight… we need to go with Mitt because he can appeal to moderate voters, but talking to Democrat voters (who may or may not actually be moderates that just tend to traditionally vote Democrat) makes Santorum a bad guy? Reagan appealed to moderate Democrats too, and it worked pretty well for him.
Trueblue, get a clue. Michael Moore and Obama campaigned for Santorum in Michigan. Dja think they’d vote for him because he’s a good guy who stands up for blue-collar workers, or because they consider him unelectable by moderates?
They do consider him unelectable. They’re dead wrong, and Santorum can thank them when he is sworn in as President because of their help.
I do not have a problem with it. The Union rank-and-file are not the same as the Union bosses. Many of them are basically Conservative Democrats, a.k.a. Reagan Democrats. They have no business supporting Obama, nor even Romney.
Santorum is from the Steeltown area. He was a Union member himself at one point, I believe. Not sure. He’s not just pandering to unions. He actually believes in the value of unions, as well as the value of business. The two are not incompatible. Unions are there to restrain the worst avaricious impulses of businessmen.
Romney howled about this, but because he knows it can be effective in beating him. He knows Santorum can get the Reagan Democrat vote… and that he, himself, cannot.
More power to Santorum on this one. If he can get the Reagan Democrats now, he can get them in the general election. Remember, Reagan was a union steward, until he got disgusted with the commies who had taken over the unions.
No, I have no problem with this at all. “But what if Romney had done this?” Yeah, what if unicorns are real? Romney could never do it. He wouldn’t waste his money even trying.
Santorum has views that are too polarizing. Especially considering that many of today’s voters – in particular the younger voters – are much more concerned about social issues than economic issues (GDP, debt, cost of health care, military defense, educational value etc…).
Romney’s #1 detraction is his religion. People are changing their story about why they don’t like him, but it really boils down to him being a Mormon. The official information on Mormonism shows they differ from Santorum – dramatically regarding both birth control (it’s fine – up to the couple) and abortion (its fine under three circumstances 1) rape 2) incest 3) health of mother). Someone like Santorum and the people who like his social views are not going to be able to reconcile their firm social views with a softer Mormon view. Let alone the whole book of Moromon and prophet thing.
If Santorum can’t soften his social view he stands zero chance in a national election.
Romney’s #1 (and #2) detraction is that
A) you can’t believe anything he says as he says it just to garner votes, and
B) his own record in Massachusetts is one of a statist Leftist.
Thanks, Ed. I was just fixin’ to really unload on Joe’s comment. I probably would have regretted it.
You’re welcome. Let’s say you owe me one cold beer someday! Deal?!?
Ron, I just have to ask you this. Where did you and the others like you singing the chorus that Santorum is unelectable get these God-like powers to forsee the future? That’s is essence what your claiming when you seem to be able to predict the future. Why not just let the voters determine who will be the nominee and who will win the election?
Tip: much as I admire Ron Radosh’s brilliance, it doesn’t take “God-like powers” to foresee that Santorum will not, can not and should not win anything but “least likely to persuade anyone who doesn’t already think exactly as he does, in which case, they wouldn’t be persuaded, would they?”
He’s toast. It’s just that simple.
Quoting Kathleen Parker to bolster his argument is a tip-off as to Mr. Radosh’s confusion about this election. It hasn’t been that long ago that Ms. Parker urged the Republican establishment to ignore conservatives and the South in general, and move toward George Voinovitch (sp?) RINO-ist liberalism.
I will vote for Romney if he is the nominee, but I will hold my nose as I did when I voted for McCain in the 2008 general election. The country needs a president like Santorum, who clearly and sincerely supports the constitution and traditional American values.
Who meesed up the headline?
It should read–”Voting for Romney or Santorum Equals Electing Obama in November!”
Doesn’t anyone proofread this thing?
I’m a Santorum fan, at this point, so don’t take my word for it. Here’s James Taranto making the case in the Wall Street Journal:
This column has recently become skeptical of the view–nearly universal on the liberal left but common as well among conservative elites–that Rick Santorum is “unelectable” or far less likely than Mitt Romney to defeat President Obama in November. A new USA Today poll reinforces our skepticism.
The survey, conducted by Gallup, included two samples of registered
voters: 1,137 from a dozen “swing states”. . .
The findings: Santorum leads Obama in the swing states, 50% to 45%, and nationwide 49% to 46%. This gives him an edge of three percentage points over Romney, whose swing-state lead is 48% to 46% and who ties the president nationally at 47%.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/292131/santorum-more-electable-romney-maggie-gallagher
My concern regarding Santorum’s “electability” is in Colorado. There are a few zillionaires (Congressman Jared Polis among them) who have been using 527s to buy the legislature for almost a decade now with the express purpose of legalizing gay marriage. They have no other issue, other than the progressive views that tie with their primary one. And they HATE Santorum. Congressman Polis has been downright unprofessional in his social media regarding the Senator.
They have basically unlimited resources, standing infrastructure, and the will to make sure Santorum does not carry Colorado. He almost certainly will not.
So I wonder if he can get to 270 without those swing electoral votes. It’s definitely an uphill battle at that point.
Jeff Bell, author of the just-released book The Case for Polarized Politics, takes on the myth that “social issues” are what cost the GOP the election:
Isn’t an elevated debate on social issues in the fall a formula for Democratic victory?
Recent history says no.
In the six general elections since Ronald Reagan, social issues became prominent in the fall campaign twice: in 1988 (furloughs, Pledge of Allegiance, membership in the ACLU) and 2004 (same-sex marriage).
These also happen to be the only two post-Reagan elections when the GOP won a majority of the popular vote.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/292131/santorum-more-electable-romney-maggie-gallagher
Gee, there was nothing else going on in 2004–like Iraq or Afghanistan. This is the problem with all you flavor of the month types: you have a very hard time seeing the big picture and setting priorities.
“If Rick Santorum is the nominee, it is a certainty that Obama will win.”
They said the same thing about another conservative, Ronald Reagan. And I remember that even up until election day, the polls still said that Reagan and Carter were “neck-and-neck” and that it would be a close election. And they were really, really, wrong. Stand for something and people will stand by you. People need to understand that.
Santorum is no Reagan, not by a long shot. He’s a religious fanatic, like his bible-thumper supporters. Their hatred of Romney is not because of his alleged liberalism, but because of his Mormonism, which they equate with non-Chrisitianhood. That’s what it ALL comes down to.
The abortion debate has been going on for forty years, and no candidate is going to change anything in the near future. To be obsessed with one or two issues, ignoring all else, is fanaticism. The Christian pro-lifers who post here every day, and try to dominate every conservative blog, are the most annoying people on Earth. When they descended on the pro-life bandwagon in 1979, they destroyed the pro-life movement with their superstitious prattle and inability to keep religion out of politics. Thirty years later, the pro-life movement has not advanced at all, thanks to these loud-mouthed loons. Like I said, they destroyed it. They destroy everything they touch, including Republican primaries.
Santorum has ZERO chance of being elected president. Every bible-thumper in America could vote for him, and it still wouldn’t put him into office. Most American voters, including most Christian voters, do not like religious fanatics and political preachers. This man will do or say ANYTHING to win in the primaries, has no moral compunctions when comes to his own career, and is knowingly ruining the chances of any Republican to defeat Obama in November. Apparently, if HE can’t have the Oval Office, he’s going to make sure no other Republican can. Funny, how the uber-religious are so free with slander, libel, gossip mongering, and dirty tricks. No matter what they say in public, they obviously do believe the ends justify the means.
Hey, Florida, how much is the Romney campaign paying you to say this junk? Seems like anybody that does NOT agree with any of your positions is “bible-thumper” or a “loon.” It doesn’t seem like anybody is holding a gun to the head of people to vote for Santorum. If people are VOTING for Santorum, a guy with almost no money when compared to Romney’s machine, the voters must LIKE Santorum, right? And who is to say that many Americans won’t embrace a guy like Santorum? Obama is as far left as they come, yet he won boy a comfortable margine. There must have been a lot of people out there who embraced his far-left views (some would say socialist views, like the “redistribution of wealth”)? After four years of a disastrous far-left administration like Obama’s, don’t you think Americans may be ready for a more conservative point of view? And, by the way, Reagan was really, really, conservative when it came to things like pro-life. He just couldn’t do much about it because he didn’t have a Republican Congress to help him. And remember, a lot of those “loons” came out to destroy the Democrats in 2010. If you want their help again, you’ll have to listen to what they have to say, too. This is still a republic and people still get to vote, for the time being at least. So when it comes to Mr. moderate Romney, just remember two names: John McCain and Bob Dole. They were moderates and oh so electable too. And what did it get them? Oh, that’s right, they LOST, big time.
Santorum doesn’t have a prayer, pardon the pun. He is a geek, a big mouth, a religious fanatic, a twit, an egomaniac, and a screwball. If water seeks its own level, so are you.
Arch conservatives are no more representative of the general population than are arch liberals. Both groups are extremists. The rest of us, the ones who live in the real world, aren’t interested in your endless fights, your tits for tats, your us vs. them meme. We have two eyes, and can actually perceive three dimensions.
Are you saying that you are NOT a bible-believing, born again Christian who thinks Jesus is your personal lord and savior? Are you claiming my generalization was incorrect?
Can’t wait to find out.
Leftist TROLL.
Why do you give give an odious creep like “Florida” the satisfaction of calling pro-life voters loons?
I’m a pro-life voter, you dumb ass. I was one of the original pro-life organizers in this country, and I personally watched the Christian Right destroy everything that we had accomplished over ten years in less than one month.
You and all the other bible-thumping pseudo pro-lifers (you’re not pro-life with regard to animals now, are you?) have done irreparable harm with your religious lunacy and your endless political meddling. You have turned the pro-life movement into an international laughing stock that nobody, except other religious crackpots, takes seriously. You have no internal moral compass; only a bible to supposedly tell you right from wrong, and even then, only according to someone’s interpretation of it. I’ll tell you what’s wrong: ruining other people’s lives to further your own religious agenda.
Hahaha. Florida must in reality be Chris Hitchens, or play him on TV. The Atheists for Pro-life were winning the fight before the religious pro-lifers ruined everything. Too funny.
I didn’t say I was an atheist. That’s your limited imagination at work. I, a non-Christian, was part of the Florida Right to Life Committee, a coordinator for the National Youth Pro-life Coalition, a director of the [Florida} Coalition for Human Life, and the founder of the first Alternatives to Abortion pregnancy aid facility in Florida. I organized the first pro-life conference in Florida, working with Dr. Jack Wilke, his wife Barbara Wilke, and Dr. Mildred Jefferson. The bible-thumpers were not part of any of this till Jerry Falwell jumped aboard the pro-life bandwagon in 1979 and turned abortion into his newest money-making scare campaign, sending out “precious little feet” pins to anyone contributing X-number of dollars to his so called ministry.
Sneer all you want, but the facts are the facts. The born-agains have done nothing but damage to the cause.
For everyone who is comparing Santorum to Reagan, you’re sorely mistaken.
Reagan was not an ideological social conservative–he signed abortion into law in California while governor, never went to church, and was divorced.
FLORIDA: You can call me a dumb ass, but that doesn’t change the fact that that you offer pure nonsense. Pro Life sentiment has grown over the years, thanks in great part to the people who persevered in the cause.
You seem to have left the field because Christians annoy you. If you were once so active in the cause of ending the killing of babies in the womb, why would someone else’s religious motivations cause you such distress. To get Obama out of the White House, I don’t object to some pretty shitty people joining me in voting him out.
Why not print your real name and tell us more of your pro-life work in Florida. Until then, I’m inclined to think you’re a foul mouth who is full of it.
Wow, this is every bit as hostile as a lefty website. Look at the countries of the world–whereever Christianity is the historic faith and underlying philosophy there is freedom. I’m tired of being dumped on and lumped together with Muslimes by secularists who really don’t know the foundations of their own liberty. You have nothing to fear from Christians, even Evangelical ones. Here’s what we want socially:
1) Parents who are committed to their children.
2) Husbands and wives who are committed to each other.
3) Families that are independant of the government.
Anything that interferes with these three points should be DISCOURAGED (do not read FORBIDDEN) by the government.
Having said all that, I’ll vote for any Republican, straight ticket. Period.
How do you know that?
There are eight months between now and election day.
Anything can happen. ANYTHING.
Read the Tao Te Ching (Daodejing): we simply cannot predict the consequences of our action, so we ought to let the process develop organically, naturally.
Wouldn’t it be wonderfully ironic for Democrats to give Santorum the critical momentum to the nomination, and then have the circumstances (economic, gas prices, a “black swan” event) that leads to the defeat of Obama?
Be careful of tempting fate.
Fornicate “the struggle for freedom throughout the world”; it’s eroding pretty fast in America. Let our equals the Left is so eager to import into America as equals actually show it for just one frickin’ minute. It’s not like the Middle East and Africa are being occupied by an army; they’re occupying themselves. Iraq and Afghanistan has shown what a lot of people already knew: you have to think of yourself as lacking freedom in the first place to want it – in that case Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn’t have needed us in the first place.
Trach gut, zain gut, Ron.
Is it just so impossible for anyone at PJ Media to look on the bright side, to find something positive to say, to attempt to uplift us instead of shoveling monumental doom on us every day? It’s becoming too depressing to come here.
This whole line of reasoning is infantile. Does anyone seriously believe that if we nominate Romney, all of a sudden the MSM, “independents and moderates”, and dems in general will suddenly love us? Are you operating under the delusion that they will never, ever, ever say anything bad about Romney? Are you kidding me? ANYONE with an “R” after their name is going to be lambasted during the general. Wake up and get real.
Your real opposition to Santorum is your opposition to his opinions. There’s nothing wrong with that, but why don’t you just admit that, and write a column telling us why? Why can’t you anti-Santorum types just man-up and defend your socially liberal opinions instead of trying to hide behind this paper wall of “electability” you’ve built for yourselves?
All Santorum has to do is force Obama to defend his support for partial birth abortions, and killing of live babies who survived botched abortions. Whose position sounds more radical at that point? How about simply making him defend his decision to take away Catholics’ right to freedom of religion? Obama’s got a socially radical rap sheet a mile long that even “independents and moderates” would find frightening at best. Stop kvetching (sp?) about Santorum’s social views for Pete’s sake. The current occupant of the White House has a lot more to answer for in that arena than Rick does….
Hear, hear, Mark. Well said.
Mark@ Great post. Love to see your question answered?
This whole line of reasoning is infantile. Does anyone seriously believe that if we nominate Romney, all of a sudden the MSM, “independents and moderates”, and dems in general will suddenly love us?
Please, put your straw man away, Mark. The “independents and moderates” will determine the election. Nothing is “sudden” with those people. They’ll watch the alphabet news broadcasts, look at pictures of the candidates and their wives, and cast their votes accordingly.
Obama’s horrid position on botched abortions was ignored by the majority of American voters in 2008. Since then, his record on everything else has worsened. And yet look at his standing in the polls.
Please get real.
I see you’ve mastered the use of retorical buzz words. Your deployment of the old stand by “straw man” was a stroke of pure genius. Congratulations.
On issues of substance though, you are correct that the media igonred Obama’s record of supporting infantacide. And they will this time around too if they can get away with it. However, there’s a way to go over the media’s head, and the “moderate” McCain didn’t have the balls to do it; neither will Milquetoast Mitt. Eunuchs like those two are too pathecially obsessed with making the other side like them, and approve of their message. McCain NEVER dared to talk about Obama’s record. Santorum wouldn’t be afraid to stand up at a debate and spell it out vote by vote for all of America to see. At that point the big, bad MSM won’t have any choice but to deal with it.
Romney, on the other hand will be too busy rolling over with his legs in the air, trying to get his belly rubbed.
….that should read “pathetically obsessed”. What can I say? It was early.
I think you might be missing ar’s point, Mark. Ar’s point is that only independents and moderates should be allowed to vote. All the other would-be voters have an agenda, they are predisposed to vote along party lines. Therefore, only those having no preference should pick the winners. (You can’t make this stuff up. Well, maybe some of us can.)
Who says the polls are honest?
I love reading Prof. Hanson and Michael Ledeen, but I am going to have to forgo reading them for a while. The rest of Pajamas Media has reverted to their knee jerk liberal ways, terrified of the big, bad social conservative wolf. Mentioning President Reagan to these people just reminds me that Roger and Ron never voted for the 20th Century’s greatest President. They were good liberals then, and their hysteria about Santorum proves they are still good liberal. Sorry PJ I am outta here.
Quite fascinating. In your view, all must think in lock step. What a boring periodical that would be. I certainly wouldn’t want to read it.
In your view, all must think in lock step.
You can’t read and comprehend simple English sentences. Please change your handle until such time as you rectify this.
Gimme a break — PJ was never doctrinaire conservative Republican in the first place.
Everything has to be 100% lockstep party line?
That is Leftist thinking.
Agreed, PJ Media was never lockstep SoCon. I feel comfortable telling my default Democrat friends to come here and read and reconsider.
Go stick Romney up your backside.
“If Rick Santorum is the nominee, it is a certainty that Obama will win.”
And if Flip Romney is the nominee, it is a certainty that the left will win. As they will have both horses in the race.
The soul of America is hurting and here we go having perfectly good spats about all this Santorum crap …. well Whoopdee Freakin’ Dooooooo!!!! Truth is; nobody has a clue what will happen …. … at this point in time.
Attacking the AT and its contributors is assenine, (spelling).
If we nominate Romney, Obama wins. If we nominate Santorum, Obama wins. How about just cancelling the election and letting Obama have it.
How about this, regardless of who wins the nomination, all conservatives, Republicans, RINOs, independents, angry Democrats come together and support that person. Remember who the enemy is (and I do mean enemy). Make it a class or culture war. We are truly on the right side for either one. We can hammer Obama and his minions on the class and culture warfare stuff – there is plenty of gaffes and screwups out there (class – he rails against the evil rich yet he charges $35,000 for someone to attend his campaign party, how many Obamacare waivers went to supports of the Democrats, how many millions wasted by investing in companies owned by contributors; culture – abortion versus death penalty, voter id fraud, race war (nominating someone from La Raza for his Admin), getting a free right at his racist anti-American church yet going after Santorum).
If we can’t come together to defeat this buffoon then Heaven help us.
Figuring this election is like calling a five cushion pool shot. If Santorum was articulate (he is not) he would draw on his honesty and say, “Many of you Americans are undisciplined fat slobs, grossly overweight, and lacking in any studied knowledge of math, science, or finances. The rest of us are not going to pay for your gross excesses, particularly regarding sex, any more. Vote for me.”
I am not sure if this is a winning political tactic but some one must state the truth. Santorum does. This is his position on abortion and contraception, after the second or third retraction or correction. For guidance, I hold that whatever Joe Klein writes is usually wrong. If he says today is Tuesday, check your calendar. We now are reasonably certain that Senator Santorum’s zipper works. President Kennedy’s and Clinton’s did not, but were rich enough to pay for their own meds.
Pundits who claim infallible knowledge of who is electable are simply dumb. At this stage a telephone pole could beat Obama.
On the economy, energy, and war, I would pose the essential issues upon which to vote, “Do you want to be alive in four years? Do you want to be a slave?”
It is getting that bad.
True, but you’ll have a hard time convincing this site’s Mitt/boot-licking Camp Followers like Radosh and Roger Simon.
THEY SEE TEH FUTURE….
This is an excellent article. It illustrates clearly what happens when religous fundamentalists of any stripe gain any kind of political power. They are DANGEROUS. Look at what is happening in Israel dealing with the orthodox settlers. How is it going in Egypt with the Brotherhood? Christian fundamentalists are cut from the same cloth.
They all wear black.
Ron is right. Either the Republicans grow up fast or we get Obama. It is really that simple. Being a purist on faith leads to cultural suicide.
When the namecalling starts, I’m tagged a Christian fundamentalist. And that equals Muslim Brotherhood? Gee whiz, do I feel stupid. I haven’t killed anyone for—let me see—-several weeks now. I’d better get with it before they throw me out of the fellowship.
When our Bible Study meets on Friday night, I’ll be sure to tell them the error of their ways. They’re gonna be all shocked and stuff probably.
Why yes, we cling to our Bibles and our guns. Remember that as you side with Obama.
Nonsense! Mitt is the savior of the Republican Party and everybody here knows it.
Bwahaha!!! You just forgot the (/S) sarcasm tag.
I guess we are thought to need some amoral technocrats to right the ship. It might surprise our pundits to know that America’s might and prosperity depend on the strength of its core values as put in action.
If there aren’t a bunch of New Englanders (ie, FL and NH) or Mormons (ie, AZ and NV), Romney has no support.
Truth is, both Romney and Santorum would likely lose, so why not go down swinging with a guy who knows how to throw a punch?
BTW: it is entirely possible that neither Santorum nor Gingrich is “electable.” I recognize that is an extremely strong possibility.
However, it does not follow that because neither Santorum nor Gingrich is “electable” (something which is, of course, still a matter of speculation), that Romney therefore is.
So: in short, I am being exhorted to back Romney on the basis of his alleged “electability,” yet nobody has explained, or seems able to explain, just where and on what basis that alleged “electability” lies, That Santorum or Gingrich are “not electable,” if true, in no way proves the “electability” of Romney.
“Electability” seems light compared to “defeatablility”- as in who can best defeat Obama. My first choice (today) is Gingrich with his born-again status, prior record as Speaker, and a desire to Lincoln/Douglas the current phony in the White House to death (or Nov. 6, whichever comes first).
Next, is Santorum for displaying moral clarity- something the Founders had in spades or else the Dec. of Ind. couldn’t have been written(“endowed by the Creator”, etc.). His voting record (team player) and endorsement of Romney (2008) call some of his ‘clarity’ into question, but that was then, this is now. Sadly, Axelrod & Co.(and MFM) have Rick swatting at condoms and deamons, something he (or his handlers) might have avoided as the Left set this up for any nominee to swing at (low and outside- Strike!).
Still, moral clarity is no vice. In fact, without it the compass is broken (as someone said above) and America goes sideways like a cruise ship off Italy. By the way, between golf and vacations, has the current President done much to distinguish himself from the Captain of the ill-fated ship? The Minnow has been lost. Obama’s ‘three-hour-tour’ has turned into a three+ year nightmare (if you work, pay taxes, or own a house).
Would I vote for Romney if he’s the candidate? Sure. Not doing so is to hand it to Oblahblah (I’ve had enough telepromptering to last a lifetime). Stabbing myself in the neck is not an option, either. But, he has some ‘clarity’ issues of his own and the Chicago Political Machine will pull out all stops to make them Front Page.
If I didn’t know how dirty and slimy the Left has become (exhibit A: Obama’s ascendancy) I might discount the importance of this next election. If NBC were my only portal to the world, I’d be long on solar stocks and charging tickets (what, me have money?) on a cruise through the Strait of Hormuz.
America needs fixing and I’d never toss morality out as a tool. Nor experience. Nor wisdom. The current grease monkey under the hood hasn’t a clue what is wrong and things will only get worse. At some point, you have to get a different mechanic, or else end up broken down on the side of the road. This guy, this phony Obama has sold us a new transmission (O-care) when all that was needed was a new O2 sensor. And America still runs like sh*t. Putting his ass out of business in ’12 has become my highest priority.
I read articles like this, and then I read other articles telling me how a Romney candidacy is a sure loser. Same thing for all the other candidates.
The fact is that none of them are perfect, and none of them are as terrible as they are made out to be. Any of them are better than 4 more years of Obama.
I’m sick of it all, and will just vote for whoever runs against Obama.
I have problem voting for a candidate who thinks that when the state he governs imposes a 2 cent a gallon cost on gasoline users it somehow doesn’t count as a tax increase just because it was labeled a “fee”.
So–for that you would support obama by not voting? or what??? The country will survive in some form under any of the republican candidates. The same cannot be said about obama for five more years.
How can else you get some taxes from the low wage people?
Inflation…
This election is about getting obama out of the White House. If any of you want to run one of your dead dogs, I guarantee you, he has my vote.
It’s not about getting Santorum in. It’s not about getting Romney in. It’s not about getting Paul in. It’s not even about getting Buchanan in. It’s about getting obama out.
Big picture. Please.
The only one of either party who has had any experience running companies, and firing those who are not working is Romney. You all criticize him for companies failing, but that is exactly what we want him to do in the government.
So we don’t like capitalists – well great, then vote for the anti capitalist and the closer to communist – 0b0z0!
So, is he gonna “FIRE” Achmadinejhad?!?
Romney is a LOSER non plus ultra!
I’ll know I have my candidate when I hear the first Republican stand up and say something to the regard, “I feel I am the best candidate blah blah blah…However, I will do nothing in this election to undermine my Republican opponents in the event I do not win. It is imperative for the good of this country, something much bigger than my candidacy, no matter which one of us chosen, that Barack Obama not win this election.”
I don’t agree with Ron Paul on much, but I will say this as a social, Christian conservative: I believe Ron Paul has Rick Santorum pegged correctly.
Rick Santorum is a self-serving, self-absorbed phony. I’ve met a thousand of them in my churches through the years – elders, deacons, teachers, preachers, and priests. They say all the right things, perhaps even play the role to perfection about the “family values”, God first kind of guy. But their heart is one of self first, and they eventually create enough strife and lacking wisdom, you’ll rue your initial devotion and support for their position of leadership.
You don’t explain on what basis you consider Santorum a “self-serving, self-absorbed phony”. What makes you feel that way? It doesn’t help the discussion to make such allegations without evidence; are there specific actions or statements you can point to that support your allegation? If so, I’d like to hear them. Seriously. I’ve never heard of anything to back up such a claim, even in all of the attacks they make on him.
This article and others like it from establishment pundits do more harm than any candidate possibly can.
“It is imperative for the good of this country, something much bigger than my candidacy, no matter which one of us chosen, that Barack Obama not win this election.”
I disagree. I don’t want the Republican version of crap sandwich, just because the Dem version is so much worse. A crap sandwich is still a crap sandwich, whether it is is horse-dung or cow-flop. A vote for the lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil.
It is almost impossible to undo the damage a Republican does, so we need to be more careful when choosing them.
Newt gets crazy ideas, but he also pulls pack in the face of pushback. Any harm he does will be minor.
Santorum has often brought forward some good legislation and has pushed for good things and opposed bad things like TARP. He just has not been very good at getting things through. He’ll do little, if any, harm.
Paul’s battered-wife foreign policy (He loves me. I just do things to make him hit me.) will be harmful, but at least it will be offset somewhat by some fine domestic policy.
Romney? He’ll be a good manager. He’ll take no political risks. He’ll throw the Left many bones. ObamaCare? He’ll (his words) “keep the good and get rid of the bad.) And he’ll compromise. It’ll be permanent. He’ll make bad things into more-effective, bad things. And yes, he’ll raise taxes. Lots of little taxes, here and there. He’ll do lots of bad things, which will then be undoable, because a Republican did them and they were “bi-partisan”. Bi-partisan. Left and Lefter. Dumb and Dumber. Don’t say I didn’t tell you so.
You are right Marc,
Gingrich is clearly the best candidate (not saying much) this time around. He’s got the best track record of winning as a conservative and acting like on in office. Even his being forced to resign as speaker is a positive, considering that as soon as he was gone the House Republicans became a pack of earmarking perverts and big government influence peddlers.
Though I’m not very familiar with the blogger, Red State recently issued a challenge to any Rick Santorum backer with the following:
Can anyone produce any evidence whatsoever that Rick Santorum opposed TARP before TARP was actually passed? Because nobody can seem to substantiate your claim, Marc. It’s very easy to be an armchair quarterback, but much harder to drive the team down the field. And I will continue to remain completely unimpressed with Rick Santorum, even as a social, Christian Conservative, as anything other than a self-serving blowhard until somebody can show me something of real substance.
If you believe Rick Santorum is out of the mold of say someone like Ronald Reagan, you’re going to find yourself sadly mistaken. Santorum is clearly a proponent of government solutions. I’m not. And understand, I’m not big Mitt Romney fan. None of my choices even bothered to run. But I do find Romney the most electable candidate, and unlike you, I think it imperative Barack Obama be removed as quickly as possible.
And yes, he’ll raise taxes.
I had not realized that the US Constitution had been modified to permit the executive to “raise taxes”. The things you are so concerned about are the responsibility of Congress. You need to worry more about electing conservatives to the House and Senate and obsess less about a prospective President doing things which are outside his jurisdiction. The same applies to the rest of the frenzied mass commenting here.
I am amazed at the infantile levels of your republican candidates; Santorum is a purist, and no one needs to elect a purist for a 4 years term. You need to elect someone to kick out BHO and to fix the economy, to stop the decline, to get back on the american trails, not someone to meddle with private , individual matters like cntraception, abortion etc..Any election in a western democracy is win or lost in the center , trying to catch the 10% who are always undecided, hesitant, not edicated in the finesse of ideology. These target you catch it by empathy, by humour, by common sense, not by very controversial matters.Your country is a big decline and I am amazed at the selection of candidates the republican produces. A billionaire is not a good choice ( Romney) when you face a leftist demagogue, an ultra-catholic is not a good choice when you face a cosmopolitan liberal , a political establishment figure (Gingrich ) is not a good choice when you face a so-called anti-establishment figure.I would propose Michael Bloomberg as the best center-right republican to kick out BHO and fix the economy.
On the contrary- an ultra-Catholic is exactly who we want. We know he will be conservative on nearly every matter, due to a combination of ideology and pragmatism, but he will also be attractive to union members and Hispanics- just getting 10-20% more of their votes than we usually do screws over the Democrats royally. Repeat, it is not necessary to get a majority of the Democrats’ core constituencies in order to win; a modest fraction will suffice. Want to rile up Hispanics? Tell them Obama may throw priests in jail for sticking up for Church teaching, and indeed threatened to throw chaplains in jail for reading a letter from the bishop.
Very interesting point.
Quel domage, Monsieur Loser, that you do not live in the United States. If you *did*, you might develop an understanding of us which is more mature and greater in depth than the one-dimensional cartoon-caricature than the cliche you spew. Enjoy the Socialism of your country on the way down, while WE CHOOSE TO REBUILD OURSELVES ANEW. Tant pis, Loser.
Mr. Radosh is not a conservative, he’s somewhat left of the average American. If the wooden candidate, the establishment pick, Romney, is the nominee, he might win through default because Obama is so awful. Then again, Santorum performs better on camera, and while he says some things the dumb elite take offense at, many people like what he says. Romney punches like a girl against Obama, Santorum throws haymakers. It’s not at all certain that Radosh wants Obama to lose, if Santorum is the nominee, and that shouldn’t be surprising.
Once again, reading comprehension skills are lacking. Anyone who thinks Professor Radosh is anything but a conservative can’t read. Put his name in the SEARCH box on the PJM home page and read his work. If you still think he’s left of anything, you’re in outer space, in a different galaxy.
The trick in a year like this is to not give fence sitters any reason to not vote for the generic Republican candidate. I know that doesn’t sound inspiring, but this is about winning. Santorum gives a lot of people reason to not vote Republican, especially women. They have been free for some time now, and don’t want to go back to the old ways.
I’m a woman and I don’t think Santorum as President will change my life one iota. It’s a whole lot of hysteria against Christians. Christians built this country and provided the current priveleges of freedom we all now enjoy. I’m finding more and more “conservative” websites to be just as hostile as liberal ones. If you don’t want to accomodate us then we won’t vote for your crummy candidates.
Way to go. Couldn’t agree more.
Funny that your Romney-endorsed talking point is DEBUNKED BY PROVEN FACTS: women endorse Santorum in greater numbers every day. FAIL!
Ed,
Fail? Romney beat Santorum in exit polls in both AZ and MI by comfortable margins in the women category.
Santorum fails…he lost almost every demographic.
Our Chicken Little’s have come home to roost. Look, whomever the GOP nominates, The Obama Chicago team will run a slick campaign, outspend the GOP by perhaps 4:1, they will wage an aggressive and dirty campaign, and the mainstream media will act as their press secretaries. They will do everything possible to direct attention away from Obama’s record and towards whatever shortcomings they can find, real or imagined, of the GOP candidate. They may not know much about leadership or governing, but they sure know how to campaign.
Second the Obama campaign will be based on straw man arguments, caricatures of the GOP position, ridicule (straight from Saul Alinsky), half-truths, and outright lies. They will once again play by “Rules for Radicals”, which is a generic recipe that is intended to work no matter who your opponent is. Is Romney really less vulnerable to lies and mocking than Santorum?
Anyone who has watched Obama closely knows these things to be true. Unseating him will not require a perfect candidate – if it did the GOP might as well concede now. Victory will require someone who will duke it out in the trenches, present a compelling case for conservatism, and take the battle to Obama instead of being forever on the defensive. By now, the remaining candidates (except Ron Paul, who seems more interested in creating a movement than winning) are battle-hardened and should be worthy opponents to Obama. It is unavoidable that the GOP nominee will be the underdog – Obama has more money, the bully pulpit of the White House, the willingness to be corrupt, and the favor of the media.
I like Santorum as a person and a candidate, the guy probably cannot beat Obama. I sure as heck didn’t know who he was 2 years ago. His social conservatism is offset by the fact that he voted multiple times to increase government spending. Romney ran as a presidential candidate 4 years ago, was involved in running the Olympics, and his misguided Romneycare is precisely why he’s not an obscure figure. He’s not a true conservative, but not a complete “RINO” either.
Theoretically, Ron Paul is the most “conservative” candidate available. Really, he is. The guy made a entire career out of the limited government movement. His fan base is one committed bunch. Anyone actually think that he can beat Obama head to head?
Romney is the best overall package. Image, presidential demeanor, decent conservative cred (Romneycare a big exception), and experience in government and private sector. Arnold won two elections in California as a similar candidate, but congress isn’t dominated by democrats.
I agree 100%. Only thing I don’t agree with is quoting Kathleen Parker. Maybe every now and then she’s right, but she’s always an idiot.
You bet, Holly. Ron must have been a little desperate to bring Kat into this cat fight. Kat belongs in the political company of David Brooks and Mitt, RINO, Inc..
I started out in the “anybody other than Romney” camp. Now that it’s narrowed down to him, Gingrich, and Santorum (!) I’m forced to clarify that I meant anyone *electable* other than Romney! Santorum and his supporters (and Paul and his, for that matter) remind me of the old Pauline Kael anecdote: she was the NYT film critic in 1972, and supposedly called the newsroom to confirm that Nixon and won reelection, because no one she knew had voted for him. Santorum will get a good solid 25% or so of the national vote (excepting me, of course; I won’t vote for him) but he won’t get *any* minorities, moderates, or liberals. The election will be about social issues (a godsend for a President who said 2 years ago that he wouldn’t deserve reelection if he couldn’t get unemployment below 8%, when it’s stayed north of 9% ever since) and the Democrats and the media will have a field day distracting the public from the real issues here.
The whole thing is pathetic. Most of the Republicans everyone admires stayed in the shadows, figuring that Obama’s massive financial machine and wealthy backers would make certain he outspent the Republicans by a factor of 4. It’s still possible, but I’ve always been very annoyed with people who so feared damaging their own careers that they stayed out of a political race, when something like this is going on. I don’t think Obama is evil; there’s an old saying (I forget from whom) that if you must choose between an evil leader and a stupid one, you should choose evil, because evil takes a break every once in a while. No evil, but intelligent, leader would say that passing environmental regulations creates jobs; it takes a certain level of just bone stupid intellect to believe that, or think anyone else will.
So I guess my “anybody but Romney” attitude has changed into “alright, if it must be Romney, it must; anybody but Obama, please.”
The article jumped the shark at “state enforced vaginal penetration of women’s bodies” and never recovered.
“Moreover, a Michigan Democratic strategist admitted that “Santorum is completely radioactive and will bring an electoral disaster to Republicans- he could deliver Obama in a landslide,” which is why he admits that he “has launched one of the efforts to help Santorum.” The article continues to point out that a Democrat vote for Santorum in the Republican primary could give him “a big win.” 12,000 Democratic activists indicated interest in voting for him.”
Those Democrats sure are altruistic and honest. Santorum would be good for them, so they tell us that Santorum would be good for them, and if Santorum wins, it’s because Democrats voted for him. I see.
Also: trisomy 18, while a “genetic defect” in a sense, as chromosomes are made up of genes is more of a “chromosomal disorder.” Not really your fault though.
“OUT OF TOUCH” should be the title of this article.
If this was written to generate responses, it worked.
Santorum has shown he has the ability to adapt to the terrain and tread accordingly.
All parties are throwing anything they have against the wall to see what sticks, and the ignorance of the Democrat Party and their sycophants is sticking the best at the present time. The next best sticking garbage is what emanates from the main stream media. (But we cooks can decipher the truth throughout all the smoke, steam, and fog).
I have the most expensive and up to date crystal ball made, and it says “forecast cloudy”. It just laughs at any other questions about who will be the next President.
Isn’t this fun.
Mitt Romney’s people were the ones pushing hard to make Michigan’s primary open. At the time Romney’s people thought that moderate independents and slightly conservative Democrats would be voting for him.
As I recall, Mitt explained the fact that he has voted in Democratic primaries as an attempt to vote in a weak Democrat to help Republicans.
Of course now that Democrats have decided to vote for Santorum Romney’s people are shocked, shocked I say, that Democrats would vote for a weak Republican to help their party.
It’s amazing how Mittsy can look like a hypocrite even when he has a good point.
I have an even better idea. All Tea Party conservatives should vote for Mitt. If you are a serious social conservative you should pray to whatever god or gods you have that Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee in 2012.
Because Obama is going to get re-elected thanks to this insane GOP contest. If Romney is the one who losses to Obama, conservatives can whine that Romney lost because he wasn’t conservative enough (like Dole and McCain).
FULL DISCLOSURE: I supported Michele Bachmann. She should be where Santorum is today.
This election really is about the culture war. Unfortunately, it can’t be won as a battle over the culture. There is a deep link between the collapse of the family, the growth of the nanny state and our nation’s economic troubles.
—- Voting for Santorum Equals Electing Obama in November!
Rubbish. Obama will lose to whomever the GOP nominates. 2012 is a referendum on Obama. Voters will be voting on the Obama (and Democrat) record. Obama and his media lackeys will try to make it about anything but that, but they will fail. Santorum can beat Obama as easily as Gingrich or Romney can.
So, Ron, go ahead and cast your primary vote as you wish. The rest of us can think for ourselves.
Santorum has only one thing going for him – he is speaking to the concerns, hopes and demands of those Americans who actually make the country work. Those who form families and stick with them; those who work at a useful job (hint, “lawyer” isn’t useful…take it from there to fill out the rest of the list); those who volunteer to fight in our wars; those who just want to get on with living their lives without having to forever worry that a government bureaucrat, corporate mobster or hustler on the make will wreck everything.
We’ll see if it works – in the end, I’ll support whomever the GOP nominates because no matter how flawed, any of the GOPers are better than Obama. Furthermore, whomever the GOP nominates will win – Obama is not some sort of super-genius that we have no chance of beating. He’s a dunce who lucked out and won election against a feckless opponent in a massively anti-GOP political year. If we can’t beat him with a ham sandwich, then we might as well fold up the tent and go home…but Obama will be crushed. If Ron Paul is the nominee, Obama will be crushed. Just one fact to chew over: since Obama became President, literal hundreds of thousands of Democrats have abandoned the Democrat party…this is not the sign of a man who is building an unbeatable political coalition. There are a score or more other such facts which demonstrate that unless Obama gets a miracle, he’ll be defeated on November 6th. So, fret not about beating Obama – the only task for us is to pick the nominee.
In this, Santorum is best because even better than Gingrich he understands that our crisis is, at bottom, a moral crisis. We have a lousy economy and a disrespected nation not because we tax too much, but because we’ve become a morally depraved nation…and Santorum is just the man to start the pendulum swinging back to decency in our nation.
To paraphrase Adlai Stevenson, “But that is not enough. We need a majority.”
America is a sick, depraved country committed to greed, lust, and laziness. I don’t think it has much of a future anymore, and someone like Santorum will not be able to get the votes of that majority of Americans whose notion of a spiritual experience involves beer, meth, or casual sex.
Five surgeons are discussing which type of patient is the easiest to work on.
The first surgeon says, “Accountants are the easiest because when you open them up everything is numbered”.
The second says, “Librarians are the easiest because when you open them up everything is alphabetized”.
The third says, “Electricians, because everything inside is color coded”.
The fourth says, “Construction workers, because even if a few parts are missing, they find a way to fit other parts in there”.
The fifth says, “Politicians. Because they have no brains, no heart, no guts, no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable!”.
Only 48 replies (so far) on this thread? Not surprising to see the PJM mainstream toeing the secular line again (including, at least according to to responders, some self-professed Roman Catholics). We’ve seen that often here, of course, especially viz the Santorum bashing that has become such sport on these otherwise fine pages.
To each their own.
Rather than repeat myself here, however, I will refer anyone without any life whatsoever (i.e. someone like myself) who is still reading these Comments (as I was) to some thoroughly ridiculed and refuted points which I made about Rick The (Self) Righteous (at least according to PJM’s rank and file) on two previous threads. Interested no-lifes (again, like myself) can find those points (also from Nobody Important) among the Comments below these two previous PJM posts.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-gops-problem-with-sex-could-cost-them-in-november/
http://pjmedia.com/blog/a-time-for-choosing-in-the-great-rino-hunt/
The only way Rick Santorum will win is if he figures out how to deal with the MSM. Some of you wonder why Romney hasn’t been blasted by the liberal media yet. It’s because he’s figured out how to manage them. Santorum will go down like McCain in a ball of MSM created flames.
Romney hasn’t been savaged by the MSM because they know that Santorum is right about Romney when he says that Romney is uniquely unqualified to go up against Obama on the issue of healthcare because Obamacare is Romneycare writ large. No, Romney won’t be savaged until and if he wins the nomination. Then look out. Let him talk about the trees being the right size or his wife’s Cadillacs. Good grief. They, the Obama cultists, want to go up against Romney. He is so stiff. Today he said he isn’t going to say incendiary things about Obama. He’s sounding like McCain.
Nice try. The reason Romney hasn’t been “savaged” by the MSM is that he hasn’t been savaged by the MSM. The more Romney appears to have the nomination sewn up, the more the Obama MSM destruction machine will gear up.
Obama has strategized his whole campaign against Romney. The Occupy movement, the class warfare. Any serious political strategist knew that it would be “Romney’s turn” as the defacto Republican nominee.
Better study up on Bain. Romney will get crushed over that and soooo much more.
Newt Gingrich – now there’s someone who’ll take on Obama and crush him. Santorum seems better at handling the media than Newt, so far. But Newt has powerful communication skills and seasoning. I waited – after Newt blasted Obama’s apology – to see what Santorum and Romney would say. Telling to me was that it took both of them substantially longer to say anything. Newt didn’t have to “think,” test the wind, consult staff about an appropriate statement. He nailed it. I like that. He’s ready to be President on day one.
You are obviously a man who doesn’t know women or how they vote. For many of them, the election is a beauty contest.
WTF? That is the dumbest comment ever posted anywhere.
You have to be joking. It’s a fact. Most ladies voted for Obama because they secretly wish they were Michelle.
It pains me to say it, but Romney will be the stronger candidate against Obama. If America were a Christian nation, Santorum would be an easy choice. But we have to have a candidate who can run for President of Sodom and Gomorrah. That’s what this country is today.
A very, very slightly conservative Republican like Romney has a chance of perhaps stopping the acceleration downhill, and maybe even starting to back up a bit. But what sort of country do you think you live in, where you think a candidate talking about sexual morality, self-discipline, and God, has a chance of winning the general election?
America is on its way down hill, fast. I would like to think that an honest an decent man like Santorum can win a general election. But he can’t even consistently win Republican primaries? What do you think Democrats are going to do, when given a choice between Obama and someone as blatantly a Christian as Santorum?
So be it. A “win” with Romney is no victory. Let’s go for broke and nominate Santorum. Better to go down fighting than surrender, and who knows? We might just win.
Defeating Obama is the highest priority. Romney won’t be anything to get excited about, but at least there’s a chance of getting a few decent nominees on the Supreme Court. Not if Obama gets back in.
And if Romney fails to accomplish even that (remember Bush Sr.), then we are FUBAR. By 2020 it will be too late to do anything, and outflanking an incumbent President in a primary is nigh impossible (Reagan couldn’t do it, even though Ford wasn’t even elected as Vice President).
This is ridiculous. Obama wants Romney, the weak, flip-flopping, centralized government endorsing RINO. And if he gets him he’ll wipe the floor with him. Then we’ll get to see what Communism is all about – the end of term limits, the advent of government mandated purchasing from private corporations (aka fascism), the obliteration of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. You have no idea just how similar to Obama Romney is, but I guess you may find out.
You think that Romney is a Communist?
The comments section of this site resemble a right-wing version of the Democratic Underground or Daily Kos. People compete with each other to say the most stupid and ignorant thing they can imagine.
Reading and comprehension: Fail.
Gee, Steve, how “intellectual” your comment is…how about you present your arguments as to why Romney is the most qualified of those running for Republicans?!?
Waiting…waiting…..
Gingrich/Santorum 2012!!!
“Voting for Santorum Equals Electing Obama in November!”
This comment bothers me beyond all reason.
Right now Romney isn’t looking much better and he still divides the party.
Wanna know my take? Shut the hell up about who we vote for. Obviously we aren’t totaly sold on Romney and since he’s not the only candidate we are allowed to vote for him and your OPINION is about as useful as Romney’s inevitability card.
I may vote for Romney eventually but he better start playing for the whole group.
Vote against him I mean.
Mtncougar
Nice try. The reason Romney hasn’t been “savaged” by the MSM is that he hasn’t been savaged by the MSM. The more Romney appears to have the nomination sewn up, the more the Obama MSM destruction machine will gear up.
Obama has strategized his whole campaign against Romney. The Occupy movement, the class warfare. Any serious political strategist knew that it would be “Romney’s turn” as the defacto Republican nominee.
Better study up on Bain. Romney will get crushed over that and soooo much more.
Newt Gingrich – now there’s someone who’ll take on Obama and crush him. Santorum seems better at handling the media than Newt, so far. But Newt has powerful communication skills and seasoning. I waited – after Newt blasted Obama’s apology – to see what Santorum and Romney would say. Telling to me was that it took both of them substantially longer to say anything. Newt didn’t have to “think,” test the wind, consult staff about an appropriate statement. He nailed it. I like that. He’s ready to be President on day one.
HI Mtn cougar –I LOVE YOUR COMMENT. YOU ARE SO RIGHT! AND Newt IS ready to be president on DAY ONE.
And if anyone wants to know what Newt will DO on day one to reverse at least for Obama’s government, ON DAY ONE, watch this:
2012 CPAC speech. http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/newt-2012-cpac-2012-american-campaign-newt-man-with-the-plan (I put a loose transcript there so you can skim through it if you want.)
And if anyone wants inspiration and fortitude, this next speech will give them to you like nothing I’ve ever seen.
“2012: VICTORY OR DEATH.” http://newtgingrich360.com/profiles/blogs/2012-victory-or-death-newt-s-speeches-links-to-17-speeches
The part about George Washington makes me think that I would be ashamed for George Washington to see me cowering before these contemptible statists. I am an American and my birthright is FREEDOM. George Washington and the other Americans through the past 250 + years have won my freedom for me. Newt also talks about the people of Poland, and how they looked around and saw that there were more of them than there were of the Communists and how the Poles fought for 10 years to get rid of the Soviet domination. The courage, and they were facing actual death, actual imprisonment, the actual KGB or whoever ran the secret police in Poland. What are we up against compared to that?
Think for yourself. Find out for yourself. Newt is the man with the plan.
oh — and for whoever said Romney has figured out how to manage the MSM? Ha! Ha! Hahahahahahahah. Yeah, like a banana on the shelf has figured out how to manage the blender. It’s not RIPE YET, maroons! Just like John McCain.
This is the MSM as Lucy, you as Charlie Brown and Lucy has the the football. And you’re buying it again! Nooooooo.
Newt will DISMANTLE the Establishment. That is why they don’t even want you to know NEwt is there.
Shhhh! Shhhhhh! Don’t wake the rubes! says the MSM.
Get a clue, friends. Get a clue now. The election is NOW.
Because Newt will win in the fall. And THEN we’ll start with the REALLY hard work of restoring our country! Jobs for all! Find out for yourself, yourself, yourself. Find out.
OR, if you like Mark Levin, brilliant author of Ameritopia, and have only about 15 minutes to devote to saving your own future and our economy –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YmtHtUDhJ0 NEWT GINGRICH TALKS TO MARK LEVIN
The Founding fathers thought that a wise people would keep their Republic, but that a foolish people would end up in a tyranny. What’s it gonna be?
Our “Scary” President
Less than four months into the presidency of Barack Hussein Obama, Lou Pritchett, a former vice president of Procter and Gamble, posted an open letter to Obama on his blog which began, “Dear President Obama: You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike any of the others, you truly scare me.”
The original missive had been sent by the legendary corporate legend, noted public speaker, author, and teacher to the New York Times which chose not to print it although less distinguished publications did. It was subsequently accorded the seal of accuracy by leftist-leaning Snopes.com and only now has gone viral.
In retrospect, it’s understandable why the Times, a principal MSM Obama lackey, wanted no part of Pritchett’s letter but Obamians predictably came out in force to condemn Pritchett for his stupidity, ignorance, inaccuracies, and venom for daring to express his viewpoints on their Anointed One.
The letter reflects the author’s early and insightful realization that America was in serious trouble with our new leader and commander-in-chief.
Just months into Obama’s tenure, Pritchett noted Obama was unfit for office by virtue of his murky background, lack of experience and qualifications, radical past associations, arrogant sense of omnipotence and omniscience, his demonization of all opponents, and his extreme spending and health care plans which have since come to fruition.
In what is easily the scariest feature of Pritchett’s alarm was citing Obama’s mainstream media for its failure to vet candidate Obama as it had always done with previous presidential hopefuls and, since his election, has given him a free ride, never questioning his motives, never investigating his claims, never doubting his sincerity.
The remainder of Lou Pritchett’s letter follows: (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=15150.)
Romney is no different than obama. They are both statist scumbags. Neither speak for me, and neither speak for the oft-endangered Constitution. Both believe that government has far more power than is allowed by law. This simple fact, easily observed by the actions taken in both of their executive forms, states plainly that Romney is a traitor and obama is….well, whatever…
All of the nonsense comparing Romney or obama to whomever is ludicrous. Both desire nothing more than their own power, and are willing to do anything necessary to obtain the same. A vote for Santorum is not necessarily a vote for obama….but a vote for Romney is a vote for obama. If either one wins, we’re all screwed. There is not a single candidate in the republican “field,” that can be called Conservative with a straight face. We have lost, and lost long ago, and the arguments for or against any statist scumbag on the ballot are wasting everybody’s time. Democrats want obama part two; they would prefer Romney as a close second; and they can tolerate Gingrich, Santorum, or anybody else in the field. They are all differing (possibly) degrees of the same corruption.
There is only one final piece in the puzzle: when does society break down to the point that parasites are destroyed by their own greed and lack of ability/talent/skill/ambition? When that happens, there will be no artificial safety net to keep Mr. Darwin from doing his good work. There will finally be a reckoning four or five generations in the making, and which is sorely overdue. Powder dry and provisions stored, my friends. If you fail in this last responsibility, I fear your families will falter along with the parasite class.
Ha! Even the comments are all over the map; Gonna have to get a bigger map.
the proposed Virginia legislation that would have forced vaginal insertion of a probe into a woman’s body
1) That’s terrible writing. Are you really a professional writer?
2) That’s the far left’s view of things/characterization of things. Of course you, and so many other writers at PJM, are former (and not so former) leftists yourselves. So maybe you just don’t realize how you come across. In which case I’m here to tell you that you come across very badly.
Inoculating kids against measles involves the forced insertion of a probe into their young bodies. But we don’t see people like you gasping in horror at this fact, or describing this act in these terms.
I TOTALLY disagree… voting for MITT ROMNEY guarantees an Obama victory, Obama and the liberal media WANT Mitt to be our candidate, just like they wanted McCain… and Romney will be just as LAME an opponent as McCain was…. we better work really hard to take back the Senate and keep the house, because right now I think the Republicans are going to shoot themselves in the head and nominate the LOSER ROMNEY.
Mr Radosh simply wants us all to cross over to the Dems and just get along, like Olympia Snowe does. Most women are Dems, he says, so we’ve gotta make them happy. Good luck with that.
“Obama Admits He Is a Muslim”
Some rumors never die.
Many people still think FDR knew the Japanese were about to attack Pearl Harbor in 1941 and did nothing to forestall the onslaught in order to get an excuse to enter World War II on the side England.
Many people still think Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t act alone in the assassination of JFK in 1963 anymore than they think Jack Ruby shot and killed Oswald in a Dallas police station without some assistance.
Many people still think the World Trade Center towers couldn’t have collapsed in 2001 solely because two fuel-laden airliners crashed into them.
And, many people still believe President Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim despite his oft-repeated contentions he is not.
We may never learn the full truth about FDR or JFK or the WTC and, if Obama and the mainstream media have their way, we may never learn whether the president is an adherent to the Islamic faith even though there is far more substance to that rumor than to previous conspiracies.
Much of that evidence is in the public domain but rarely has it been collected in a single source, a 10-minute video produced and directed by FeeltheChangeMedia.com titled “Obama Admits He Is a Muslim.” Reportedly, Sean Hannity has wanted to play it on air but has been pressured by the Obama administration into not doing so.
A collection of numerous clips from the last four years, the video features the president’s own words which, . . .
(Read more and see the video at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=15215.)
My study of history, done during the 1960′s, lead me to believe that Roosevelt did know the date on which the Japanese would attack and that Pearl Harbor was one of the two possible targets. All of the top intelligence officers, who were still alive at that time, agreed on that. In fact, the only person I could find who defended Roosevelt was a close associate of his who knew nothing about the information. His defense was that he knew Roosevelt and he would not do something like that. If that is historic fact to you then you must be a Romney supporter.
Every one of the 4 has their weaknesses. I go for Romney because I think his weaknesses are somewhat less.
I agree with the author that Santorums apparent radicalness on socon issues will lose his the general. His comment on JFK was particularly boneheaded, since most catholics, even conservative ones, still love JFK and remember him fondly. I agree that in reality Santorum is not all that radical, but he APPEARS radical, and that is enough to doom him.
Newt is good on issues, but too flacky, and has too much baggage.
Paul is good on fiscal policy, but too extreme for the general, and his foreign policy sounds too much like appeasement and isolationism.
Romney is very good on jobs, spending, regulation, all key issues this year. And while a little boring, he projects competance, reliability, and steadiness, something we need badly after the extremes of Bush 2 and obama. He also has executive experience, in both business and a governorship, which tends to be a characteristic of most winning presidential candidates. Candidates with solely legislative experience, rarely win, and dont govern well when they do. And while being conservative on social policy, it is the type of standard repub social conservativism that most voters are used to, and will not rebel against. He is weak on Obamacare, but I think he can finesse that by just saying that while Romneycare may have been popular in MA, making it national with Obamacare is neither popular nor good for the rest of the country. In event Romney has clearly stated that he will repeal Obamacare, so whatever may have happened in MA is not that relevant.
If you are worried about Romney turning his back on conservatism once elected, I would say that worry is always present, as Santorum and Newt also have their non-conservative skeletins. If betrayal by a supposed conservative was never a worry, we would all look back fondly on Bush 2. The key to avoiding that fate is to take the senate, and make sure we elect plenty of Tea Party types to both houses, to keep them in line.
JFK sought “to assure voters that his religious faith and the beliefs he held would not interfere with his ability to keep church and state separate,…”
Upon becoming POTUS,
JFK promptly increased USA involvement in “Cardinal Spellman’s war.”
I read all over the internet that Pat Buchanan is an anti semite. I think this is because he suggested that millions of casualties in WWII served more to exchange facist for communist dictaroships in China and Eastern Europe. And two, he seems to be indicted for anti semitism for taking the America First point of view when it comes to Israel.
I have to say Pat, just like Ron Paul, has an uncomfortable point about the endless expansion of Empire. I am a big supporter of Israel, as are most people. But I don’t think its right to condemn a man for placing his country first and everyone else country last.
I know there is a strain of thought that supporting Israel and supporting Judaism is one and the same because Israel is the historic and possibly only home for jews. I personally agree with that.
I do not agree with the principal however that anyone who disagrees with me does so out of hatred or stupidity. Over time, as one earns more and more gray hairs one realizes in fact both sides of an argument tend to have a reason for what they think.
For those who see folk who interpret scripture traditionally, I submit that never is a good time to debate cultural matters, as far as they are concerned.
What they project is what they accuse cultural conservatives of.
This is such a disappointing article. It’s bad enough when liberals distort Santorum’s position and his words, but when supposed-conservatives do so, it’s downright infuriating. Santorum is the best of the four current candidates for Republican nomination for President. He’s talking about not only the things “the media” say Americans are interested in, but also the ones we ARE actually interested in, at least in my circles. We are going to elect a President to govern on ALL issues, not just the ones some people think should be highlighted.
And, by the way, when the social issues come up, it usually isn’t at Santorum’s initiation, but from a question he’s asked. Don’t you think that would imply someone is interested? And he and Gingrich are the only ones who don’t dodge and waffle in answering those questions, but are willing to be forthright about their principles. That puts them at the top of my list and the lists of those I know.
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SANTORUM HOOKED UP PLANNED PARENTHOOD with a few million dollars. Pay more attention, people: there’s no difference between the Dems and Repubs. Constitution Party is the only one you can depend on to stick to their word and not deceive you. This is not in support of Ron Paul- juist pointing out who Santorum really is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cgNJBdTaKE8