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August 21st, 2014 - 3:03 pm

US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel told reporters that ISIS “is beyond anything we have seen … They marry ideology and a sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. They are tremendously well funded.”

Hagel’s realization that it’s beyond Obama’s ken is understandable. You really can’t see much from the 18th hole.

ISIS and the riots in Ferguson are examples of emergent events, which happens when big things suddenly constitute themselves out of a myriad of seemingly harmless little things and become something much larger than the original. It is the result of “a process whereby larger entities, patterns, and regularities arise through interactions among smaller or simpler entities that themselves do not exhibit such properties”.

President Obama’s whole approach to the world has been predicated on the idea that you can make deals with enemies of the United States in specific circumstances because each deal can be isolated from the others. Thus, he could engage in a ‘prisoner swap’ for Bowe Berghdahl or otherwise talk to the Taliban while still remaining in actual combat with them. Likewise it was possible to make a deal with Iran while remaining an ally of Israel.

It is well known for example that Qatar is a supporter of ISIS. “German Development Minister Gerd Mueller accused Qatar on Wednesday of financing Islamic State militants who have seized wide areas of northern Iraq and have posted a video of a captive American journalist being beheaded.”

“You have to ask who is arming, who is financing ISIS troops. The keyword there is Qatar – and how do we deal with these people and states politically?” said Mueller, a member of the Christian Social Union (CSU), the center-right Bavarian sister party of Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats.

In Obama’s world the observation that Qatar was a source of support for ISIS would not be germane. The relationship with Qatar was separable from the problem of ISIS. The “axis of evil” stuff was for limited minds. The president prided himself on being able to straddle all sides of an issue at once as the “only adult in the room”. He could take the big view of things and therefore hated the idea of “war” because it was so limiting, implying that one had to take just one side in a quarrel.

Why, with his great mind, Obama figured he could take all sides. Early in his presidency, deputy press secretary Bill Burton boasted that “when you’re President of the United States you’ve got to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time”.

This is how to ring a motel front desk bell the Barack Obama way.

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Obama brought home a tiger, bought it a scratching post, called it a kitty and threw a hissy fit when Israel refused to pet it.

Obama brought home a bear, called it a puppy and said he could train it with just a reset button.

When the tiger and the bear started viciously mauling the neighborhood, Obama went into hiding. And said it wasn't him who voted to unleash the beasts. It was the party of no. They were inflexible while he was being flexible.

And that's the moral of the story of lyin', tigers and bears.
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It doesn't matter how well-funded they are. At the end of the day ammunition is something that must be trucked overland. How is ISIS receiving ammunition and from whom? It must be through Turkey. Why are the Shia-hating ISIS so intent on breaking up Kurdish territory? If they are in fact receiving supplies from Turkey, it must be part of the deal. Turks have been in a quiet civil war with their Kurds for decades and are none too happy with the growing nationalism of Iraqi and Syrian Kurds which will only make that worse.

It's a win-win for both sides. Isis knows they'll never conquer the oil of the Shia in the South, but they can get the Kurdish oil with Turkey's help. Maybe Turkey even wants that oil for themselves to buy.

As for emergent events, people have been warning liberals for years that the piper will come to pay along their slippery slope, but they don't listen. They don't listen that their policies hurt their own Rainbow Coalition the most. Moral support for Islam is a huge factor in goading radicals on in situations where they might otherwise give in to reality and throw in the towel. Moral support is a huge factor in letting thugs overwhelm Ferguson to cry over the body of a man who showed he had no more cultural pity or morals than an extortionist terrorist regime in Gaza. What is a culture with 2 million Mike Browns? It's called Gaza.

As for Qatar, they exploit our need to protect oil by spitting at us even while they host the largest American military base in the Middle East. By the time the oil runs out Qatar will probably be a democracy with an Indian/Filipino majority begging America to stop an Iranian invasion. By that time, America itself will be a majority Third World nation, fallen into itself and dreaming of better days, unable to help, destroyed by liberal immigration advocacy. Empires, colonialism and slavery will once again walk the Earth, because liberals trusted in a thing which didn't exist and refused to trust in something that did. Ferguson is success upside-down and the future of America and the world.
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Actually, Wretchard the situation is much worse than that - due entirely to Obamas own actions.
First - he has drastically cut the defense budget and armed forces - to the extent, according to Dick Cheney, that the armed forces today are simply not capable of carrying out our national security strategy.

Second - by withdrawing from Iraq he has deprived us of strategic bases exactly where they are needed most.

Third - by treating our natural allies with contempt (Kurds, Israel) he has very badly strained if not destroyed the support we need. If Obama is willing to deny Israel weapon resupplies in the middle of her war with Hamas, then why, exactly, should anyone trust him at all?

Fourth - by appeasing our enemies he naturally whets their appetites for more. Prisoner exchanges simply encourage hostage taking, and ignoring countries like Qatars support for terrorism simply encourages more.

Fifth - Obamas actions have tended to show no willingness to back up his words with force. From harmless red lines in Syria to empty words in the Ukraine, everyone can see that Obama is unwilling to use force, military or economic in any serious way.

The result of all this was and is entirely predicable. The world in chaos today can only be the intended result of what Obama wanted - for were we not told over and over again how clever and well qualified Obama was?
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The gum fell out and he stepped on it.
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George Thorogood has the solution for Eastern Europe

http://youtu.be/OOVS14X3dfA?t=1s

http://online.wsj.com/articles/alcohol-which-country-drinks-the-most-1408705249?mod=trending_now_3

Off the Wagon

#1 Belarus
#2 Moldova
#3 Lithuania
#4 Russia
#5 Romania
#6 Ukraine

We need the BEER SUMMIT TWO.
16 weeks ago
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First a rant, then a question.

How do we go from the "JV" comment and the sounds of crickets chirping to now every stuffed shirt in Washington D.C. warning about how big and bad ISIS is. Hegel, the FBI Director, Congressmen - all on TV sounding the alarm. They're disgusting. Falluja fell back in January, ISIS declared their Caliphate back in June. After the death of tens of thousands, the beheading of a US journalist revealed that the emperor wore no clothes. Despite President Obama's claims, the war is not ended no matter how much we may wish it so. That's all bitter water under the bridge.

The question now is; what is the world going to do?
16 weeks ago
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After the death of tens of thousands, the beheading of a US journalist revealed that the emperor wore no clothes.

Where are we seeing the transformation of the narrative? Oh yeah, that's right, in the media. The little people dying in bunches are one thing, as long as it's Muslim on Muslim and no Jews or Christians are doing the killing but now the big bad jihadists are going after reporters, possibly even celebrities are no longer safe to go on fact-finding junkets. The Left has gotta circle the wagons now.
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If that is the trigger for reporting, the world needs more major media journalists dead in like fashion and by the same hand[s] of ISIS. Maybe a couple major editors and a publisher because the media is playing catchup on coverage of news that matters.
16 weeks ago
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Little people in little bunches:

More than 191,000 people killed in Syria with ‘no end in sight’

The upside is they don't even have to leave town to go off-roading in their wheelchairs now.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=48535#.U_j4UMVdXTo
16 weeks ago
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That article says only 9 percent killed are women but...
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This one says:
"Zenko and Wolf also challenge an assumption that 90 percent of those killed in civil wars tend to be civilians. But this claim does not correspond to the empirical regularity that civilians are often much more targeted than combatants in civil wars. In the case of Syria, it is erroneous to suggest that pro-regime fighters are dying in greater numbers than civilians. Violence is not only targeting the frontlines.

The use of car bombs, airstrikes, and barrel bombs often target civilian locations, and they fall disproportionately in pro-rebel strongholds near major population centers like Aleppo and Homs.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/05/01/how-should-we-count-the-war-dead-in-syria/
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Odd isn't it? The MSM are suddenly aware that Muslim fanatics don't care about press passes.

As Bruce Willis said in Die Hard (1), "Welcome to the party pal!"
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We need to recognize and work around the limitations and mindset of our current President. Radical Islam will still be on the march after Obama is out of office. The question is, what can be done in the meantime? For the next couple of years, it may fall to other nations to lead the charge. The "west" needs to redouble it's efforts, formulate a real strategy and develop tactics to combat the threats.
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Did it occur to anyone else that ISIS is actually the Sunni army? I suggest we revisit our alliances with certain questionable Arab countries. Qatar and Saudi Arabia come to mind.
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http://online.wsj.com/articles/assad-policies-aided-rise-of-islamic-state-militant-group-1408739733

Assad Policies Aided Rise of Islamic State Militant Group

Islamic State, or ISIS, Gained Momentum Early On From Calculated Decision by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to Go Easy on It

"The Islamic State, which metastasized from a group of militants seeking to overthrow the Syrian government into a marauding army gobbling up chunks of the Middle East, gained momentum early on from a calculated decision by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to go easy on it, according to people close to the regime.

Earlier in the three-year-old Syrian uprising, Mr. Assad decided to mostly avoid fighting the Islamic State to enable it to cannibalize the more secular rebel group supported by the West, the Free Syrian Army, said Izzat Shahbandar, an Assad ally and former Iraqi lawmaker who was Baghdad's liaison to Damascus. The goal, he said, was to force the world to choose between the regime and extremists.

"When the Syrian army is not fighting the Islamic State, this makes the group stronger," said Mr. Shahbandar, a close aide to former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who said Mr. Assad described the strategy to him personally during a visit in May to Damascus. "And sometimes, the army gives them a safe path to allow the Islamic State to attack the FSA and seize their weapons."

"It's a strategy to eliminate the FSA and have the two main players face each other in Syria: Assad and the Islamic State," said Mr. Shahbandar. "And now [Damascus] is asking the world to help, and the world can't say no." ...

This account of how the Islamic State benefited from the complex three-way civil war in Syria between the government, the largely secular, moderate rebels and the hard-core Islamist groups was pieced together from interviews with Syrian rebel commanders and opposition figures, Iraqi government officials and Western diplomats, as well as al Qaeda documents seized by the U.S. military in Iraq.

The Assad regime now appears to be shifting away from its early reluctance to engage the group.

In June, Syria launched airstrikes on the group's headquarters in Raqqa in northern Syria, the first large-scale offensive against the militant group since it rose to power a year ago. This week, Syria flew more than three dozen sorties on Raqqa, its biggest assault on the group yet.

The Syrian ambassador to Lebanon, Ali Abdel-Karim Ali, denied that Damascus supported the Islamic State early on and praised his government's battlefield response to the group, pointing to dozens of recent strikes on the group's headquarters."



Let them fight it out until they are reduced to throwing stones back in the Stone Age. Destroy their fuel supplies and let them ride camels.


16 weeks ago
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All this talk about ISIS... what about ODIN?
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The JEF entered office with no idea of history.
He has no understanding of 'cause and effect'
He does not understand what has 'gone before' or why that should be important.
His impression is that it all about "NOW" and what has happened in the past is unimportant.
He is an ignorant fool.
The 52% will get just what they deserve.
Alas, so will we...
16 weeks ago
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Obama is The Enemy.

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--unless ISIS is the friend.
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Disconcerting text crawler at screen bottom on Fox Biz News this afternoon:

Fed Chair Yellen At Jackson Hole: "No Simple Recipe for Tightening"

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--i guess as usual everything Depends on the data.
17 weeks ago
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We should fight ISIS he same way we fought the Somali pirates. Cut off the money. These guys are country bumpkins who get a paycheck from the booty.

No booty, no bumpkins. Sure Ali-Bama and His Forty Thieves respect them, Professional courtesy you know. But there is no honor among thieves. Ali-Bama would throw ISIS under the bus the first chance he got.
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Tough to stop the money when they are apparently banked by Quatar and perhaps other nation state Sugar Daddies.
16 weeks ago
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Don't underestimate the country bumpkins. When we cut off the money and they all go home, then what?
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I liked the way we fought them with SR-25s, also.
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egg said: The idea that Obama would authorize that type of combat is utterly absurd. Nothing real happens until Obama is removed from office.

Sure, but the same electorate that voted for Barack Hussein Obama *twice* might just elect ISIS next time. Maybe Hillary should recite the shahada and start wearing a burqa.
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Betcha Bill would be happy.
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