Nibiru Missed
When I woke up this morning it was apparent that something was wrong. The birds were singing in the trees and the sun was shining through the fleecy clouds just as before. Nibiru had missed. Nassim Haramein has the explanation.
This comet, which Nissim believes was Nibiru, should have disrupted our solar system due to its mass and gravitational pull. Mercury should have been pulled into the sun while earth should have experienced tidal waves all over the planet. The comet was on track to hit the sun, but a huge sun flare emission veered the comet off course, as it traveled past the sun and out of our solar system. …
Considering the mass and gravitational pull of these objects, “We shouldn’t be here. We were given a second chance. We’re floating in grace and ‘somebody’ is taking care of us.”
Those who would cynically dismiss this as new age nonsense should know that miracles do happen. Why, according to the Washington Post policymakers prevented a ‘cataclysm’ worse than the Great Depression from hitting us in 2009. In a speech given in 2010 Ben Bernake:
sought to give some historical perspective to efforts by the Fed and other policymakers to combat the 21st century economic downturn.
During the 1930s, policymakers’ responses to the financial collapse “ran the gamut from passivity to timidity,” standing by as banks failed by the hundreds. “They were insufficiently willing to challenge the orthodoxies of their day,” Bernanke said in an address after receiving an award from the Center for the Study of the Presidency and Congress.
His historical argument was mounted as a defense of the forceful — and frequently controversial — actions that the Fed took under his leadership to combat the crisis. Bernanke said that had he and other economic policymakers not moved so aggressively, the downturn could have been even worse than the Depression, when unemployment was 25 percent.
Still not convinced?
This was not the first time the world has been saved from armageddon. According to a press released sent by administration officials, Politico reports that President Obama saved a million jobs by 787 billion in federal spending — and we ingrates didn’t even know it. Michael Cohen of the Guardian says that President Obama should have run on the fact that he had saved the America. “Everything you think you know about it is wrong: stimulus saved the US economy, and only Republicans stopped it working better.”
Economic and social extinction level events miss us all the time and we owe our survival to people like Bernanke and Obama.
In fact, had it not been for those obstructionist Republicans and capitalist roaders Obama might have saved the world. Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman told Fareed Zakaria in an interview that he should have faked an alien invasion could fix the economy. “If we discovered that space aliens were planning to attack, and we needed a massive build-up to counter the space alien threat, and inflation and budget deficits took secondary place to that, this slump would be over in 18 months.”
It’s in Time. Follow the link. Space aliens as the solution to our woes. And you thought Nibiru was a hoax?
One difficulty with these arguments is that we are always present in a future in which we survive. And when our existence is used as proof of our survival — hence the success of our leaders — how can we deny it? At any point President Obama or Nassim Haramein can emphatically claim they were right because since we are in fact alive therefore they or their knowledge must have saved us.
What we cannot know is what the alternative future would have been. It is entirely possible that Obama who “saved” a million jobs with $787 billion could have saved ten times more by not using borrowing and spending it. But this post can never be written in that other universe where the money wasn’t spent. It can only be written in the current one, where Obama spent $787,000 to create each new job.
Our mere existence is always proof of something. This notion lies at heart of the theory of quantum immortality. Suppose anything which can happen in fact does, then the quantum many universes theory holds that an endless number of outcomes is spawned, with versions of ourselves living in each one. Here’s how it works:
Unlike the Schrödinger’s cat thought experiment which used poison gas and a radioactive decay trigger, this version involves a life-terminating device and a device that measures the spin value of protons. Every 10 seconds, the spin value of a fresh proton is measured. Conditioned upon that quantum bit, the weapon is either deployed, killing the experimenter, or it makes an audible “click” and the experimenter survives.
The theories are distinctive from the point of view of the experimenter only; their predictions are otherwise identical.
The probability of surviving the first iteration of the experiment is 50%, under both interpretations, as given by the squared norm of the wavefunction. At the start of the second iteration, if the Copenhagen interpretation is true, the wavefunction has already collapsed, so if the experimenter is already dead, there’s a 0% chance of survival. However, if the many-worlds interpretation is true, a superposition of the live experimenter necessarily exists, regardless of how many iterations or how improbable the outcome. Barring life after death, it is not possible for the experimenter to experience having been killed, thus the only possible experience is one of having survived every iteration.
Obama and Bernanke can always prove we are living a universe with them. But they can never show it is the best of all possible universes. About all they can claim is that we have made it this far in their company. Taken far enough, we may be on the path where we won’t survive. However someplace, somewhere, a version of ourselves will be on a path that will make it out the other end.
In physics as in politics, the narrative matters. The opposite of “Nibiru missed” is “Bush did it”.
Whenever a good or noncatastrophic outcome is observed (such as if you are reading this) you can always say Obama deflected Nibiru. But if something bad actually occurs the talking points are “Bush did it”. Of course it should never be so bad that nobody remains to read the talking points. What’s the point of blaming Bush if there are no voters left to convince?
But in general the political class are not much different from the shamans and sorcerers of old. I am sure Axelrod would have been a a great success at casting bones. People long for a narrative. The job of Axelrod is to give it to them. Few believe the sun rises on its own or that the money they earn is due to their own work.
No. You always owe it to somebody.
“You didn’t build that” means “without me buddy, the rain won’t fall”. And if Nibiru missed, well why thank Bruce Willis? Why not Bernanke? Or Krugman? Or Obama? Willis isn’t running for office. Everything in this world must be owed to somebody. The most dangerous words ever written were in the Gospel of Matthew: “for He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” Matthew didn’t understand that the God of politics, like the Kings of Chicago, never do something for nothing.
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Wretchard, the day is still light and barely two thrids over! plenty o time for the experimenter to die… (positive thinking
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Wretchard, if we’re going to mention faked alien invasions, are you familiar with Project Bluebeam?
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&q=YouTube+Project+Bluebeam&oq=YouTube+Project+Bluebeam&gs_l=hp.3..0i13j0i13i30.335.3146.0.3328.24.17.0.6.6.0.156.1699.11j6.17.0.les%3B..0.0…1c.1.rplysTGsZfw&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.dmQ&fp=75746be565b0cb2f&bpcl=40096503&biw=1280&bih=923
So maybe Niburu hit and we just don’t know it yet.
We’ll continue to live on as a simulation in some giant computer, until the alien Bernanke kid who owns it gets bored and turns us off.
““If we discovered that space aliens were planning to attack, and we needed a massive build-up to counter the space alien threat, and inflation and budget deficits took secondary place to that, this slump would be over in 18 months.””
It’s probably true but it is a call for action not as a gigantic union bribe or to idle people with food stamps, unemployment and free condoms. It is a call to get off you’re behind and save earth. The concept is to stimulate productivity. How someone like Pelosi can say that unemployment spending stimulates the economy. That is outrageous and so dishonest as to be unarguable using reason.
On a related story, the other day I awoke myself when passing gas. It was enough to worry the cat who walked out of the room and startled a bird. The bird flew off disrupting the path of a butterfly… anyhow, this is the very causal event that led up the to the $787 billion dollar stimulus.
I am embarrassed for myself, and sorry to the cat, the bird, and well everyone else who was caught up in this econometric bamboozle.
Oil will continue to flow into the Gulf until we complete the relief well in september. (the flow stopped in July).
Wretchard, this reminds me of a Russian language documentary I saw about the Tunguska incident where a scientist said he could prove from the fragments that someone or something detonated the meteorite before it could hit the Earth, thus saving mankind from a type of nuclear winter a few years before World War One began. The Russian scientist in Siberia attributed either to aliens or angels intervening to prevent this disaster.
Sorry for the busted link above, feel free to delete it if it’s a nuisance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W02-e-xqQSQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event#Speculative_conjectures
And so, the vacuum created by the national debt swallowed Nibiru in its entirety. We are so blessed to have such far sighted leaders.
God’s grace is wondrous to behold. In considering Obama, we can only say, There, but for the grace of God, goes God.
Last Spring Obama said he wanted to win reelection because he did not want Republicans to get credit for the performance of the economy in 2013. But I think the Republicans will get credit for the performance of the economy and Obama and his supporters will give it to them.
Of course it was the Policies of the Federal Government (and especially the Democrats) that pumped up the real estate bubble to begin with. They are like Pyromaniac Firemen awarding each other medals and raises and improved benefits on account of all those fires that happen when they are around.
Remember when 1999-2000 seemed distant.
Space 1999 Horribly fake/bad. Really neat spaceships. We’re safe.
Rinse/repeat Zero 2012.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jAlE_HLDj8
Pretenders: Space Invaders (at 2:30)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQUdeVcLTms
Obama has a great story. Who is it that believes the aliens among us have tails? 2013 sounds weird.
Where is my pixel bunker?
I was under the impression that comets were some “sand”and mostly ice and frozen gas, and that the only reason they looked “big” was the amount of light they fluoresc / reflect as the ice and gas boil off under the influence of sunlight.
Your basic comet runs from 500 meters to about 20 kilometers in diameter. Yes a 20Km diameter comet landing in your neighbourhood will ruin your day; even a 500metre diameter one will make a nasty mess. However, this is contingent on it actually striking in one piece, among other factors. See Shoemaker-Levi for details.
And that’s another thing. Because MOST comets seem to orbit / travel in roughly the same plane as the planetary orbits, the outer planets and asteroids tend to sweep them up or slingshot their orbits if they get close enough. Solar prominences diverting comets? More likely it was the not insubstantial solar gravity wot done it, and the diversion would have been TOWARDS the sun, not away from it. See “slingshot”.
Were a 20Km diameter comet to actually impact the surface of the Earth intact, things would, get very bright, then very dark and ugly. If the Tunguska event were a comet strike, as seems possible, then it certainly wasn’t 20Km diameter on impact.
Milleniem Poem
Listen friends, and mark my words in this moment and this hour–
God is jealous for his name for his name is jealous.
Nor is this a charming flower to set before a man
nor one of his commands.
Yet, without Jesus, this is more than we can love as we desire peace,
and less than we can know as we desire joy.
For the sacred fire
that makes us liars–
I mean, that separates speech from dreams,
and separates our flesh from the future–
is God’s power manifested.
So, in the year and the hour– for his sake, invest your desire in Jesus.
Follow his holy fire for right now. Right now he intercedes for us in heaven!
Some will say we are people of the way.
We are people of the way.
We praise his holy name
Yahweh.
I am who I am.
I cause things to be.
I am the first cause of creation.
We praise his holy name
Elohym.
And say “Thank you Jesus for your precious blood–
better, so much better than the blood of Abel.
How then should we pray?
I pray bless me a lot oh God.
Show me your kingdom and righteousness
in such a way that my thoughts words and deeds
reflect your wisdom and power–
and that– for the sake of your honor and glory.
So that I will live in your presence
in this life and the next.
For your name sake
Let me hear my children praise your name
And their children too.
Let them woo 10 generations
coiled up in their dimensions
to the praise of your name.
Let my enemies,neighbors,family, friends,
strangers praise Jesus.
the risen Lord
I pray all this in Jesus name.
Charles for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsnkTUFmz5k
“….standing by as banks failed by the hundreds.”
The banks failed largely because of a Federal Law that prevented them from having more than one branch office. This kept the big city banks out of the small towns but meant that the small town banks were unable to spread their customers over multiple areas with differing economic circumstances, such as different crops, that would make them more resistant to the effects of the depression. In Canada there was no such law and they had almost no bank failures in that time frame.
And of course, this last time around the bank failures were driven in large part by a Federal Law, the CRA.
I suppose I should thank Obama from keeping elephants from climbing into my peach trees, since, by jimmy, we have had none of those pesky critters infesting my yard since he has been president.
In my post above I said it can be said of Obama that There but for the grace of God goes God, but suppose it isn’t that way at all. Suppose it goes There DESPITE the grace of God goes God, in which case our only hope is that Schrodinger’s cat survives..
There despite the grace of God
Goes God, Obama, who unshod
Walks on the water turned to wine
But deigns on loaves and fish to dine
The Passion play he also scorns
He will not wear a crown of thorns
But sacrifice himself he will
For Marx he’ll march right up that hill
And take his place in mankind’s lore
His father’s son, and what is more
He’ll rise again on the third day
And smile his smile and then he’ll say
I am The One my Father sent
To give you phones and pay your rent
The trodden down, the hopeless mom
I’ll take to that Celestial prom
Where golden goblets, silver plates
Are there for he who simply waits
For promises I’ve made to you
And until then, it’s toodel-oo
I’m off ascending in the clouds
And waving to adoring crowds
To join my Dad in Heaven’s scene
But I’ll be back in aught sixteen
To lead you to the promised land
As part of my most holy band
Of which I’m proud to be the head
And by the way the cat is dead
Livescience, which occasionally has disclosure content, released this Mexican skull story today.
You see, by binding kids’ skulls- they grow bigger. (Huh??)
Well, the labor force participation rate has dropped from 66% in 2008 to around 63.5% today, meaning there are around 3.5 million people whose jobs Obama DIDN’T save. They may need to ask why THEY were left behind while only a mere million were favored. Republicans blocking more stimulus is NOT an answer because Republicans could not block ANYTHING during Obama’s first two years – if more stimulus, card check or climate change legislation were the missing ingredient, Obama has no one to blame but his fellow Democrats and himself.
The bright light in the day was Wayne LaPierre.
The call to arms was “We must protect our children, spare no effort.”
The cynical realized that was too expensive, but didn’t want to say that (and the idealistic felt there must be a better way). Truly protecting the children would require guards and guns. It would exalt men with guns. No PC mother wants that. Their boys can’t even be boys, let alone see men who make their living with courage and guns. Bad, bad example.
Next best thing (“never let a crisis go to waste”) was to pass laws against guns. Laws don’t cost anything, especially when they aren’t enforced, but they’re “feel good”…laws are.
LaPierre put them on their heels. Put an armed guard in every school. Immediately the response was “that’s too expensive.” What happened to “Spare no effort?”
So there we have the answer. They’ll protect the children…so long as it isn’t too expensive. If the mothers and fathers truly want to protect their children…this is going to give them pause. Any calls for extreme efforts are going to seem strange in view of LaPierre’s call for an extreme effort.
Wait until the next mass homicide shooter comes along. LaPierre told them what to do.
They didn’t do it.
And the new laws didn’t fix the problem.
LaPierre wasn’t talking to the general electorate. He was talking to the politicians who know they will be held responsible next time.
New laws aren’t going to do it. And calling a serious looking rifle an “assault rifle” and outlawing it won’t stop a shooter.
Dear Sirs,
I wish to register a complaint with your department concerning the decided lack of performance of this greatly promised, but ultimately very disappointing Nibiru. We were sold Great Promises of performance of said Nibiru, and I must say many of those promises were promulgated through this fine establishment. These promises had induced me to look forward to the arrival of said Nibiru with great anticipation, but I must say that I am feeling very let down tonight.
I am quite displeased, Sir, quite displeased. I sincerely hope that you will convey my disappointment, and that of many others who are similarly affected to this big talking Nibiru, and to let him know that we will not be so welcoming if he should care to start spreading his promises around again someday.
Fool me once, Nibiru, fool me once.
Was the stimulus used for a million $787K jobs or was it used to purchase sixty million votes at $13K a vote.
People who shrewdly invested yesterday in balloon mortgages and ran up huge credit card bills at the Crazy Eddie level One Day sales are going to be p*ssed if the world doesn’t end. A sizable chunk of Obama voters, probably even more sizable than the chunk that doesn’t even exist, are convinced that either the world is about to end or frankly don’t give a damn if it ends 15 minutes after they spend the last dime they can extract from the common suckers and head for the big dirt nap.
Crazy Eddie now has the keys to the Fed. It’s Crazy Eddie’s Xmas sale. He’s insane.
Maxwell Smart explains Nibiru.
How were we saved?
Why Lord Obama saved us of course! He is our Savior ya know.
But I’m still lookin for that money to pay my mortgage and fill my tank, though.
Did it just happen that Niburu was supposed to hit the sun the same day as the Mayans predicted the end of the World? Or was it just some kind of New Age sort of coincidence?
Since at the time of this writing , someplace in the World it’s already the 22nd, and Niburu missed, so I guess we will survive.
Praise Be Obama!
Now that we’re all still here, I can return to my favorite theme, the globalist/gun grabber infiltration of the Right:
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/12/fedeal-judge-calls-for-confiscation-of.html
And apparently lotsa stukachi among Sipsey Street Irregular readers. I do know after posting a link or two to that site I’ve been banned from a forum (I won’t say which one) that a lot of military read where I’d been warning them about ‘bringing the war home’ and ‘we’ll soon be fighting the tea party’ trial balloons if not outright indoctrination.
This was the article I linked to:
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2012/08/bringing-war-back-home-full-spectrum.html
Stay thirsty my friends.
I thought this was a joke, then didn’t see a punch line. If we can detect and see dwarf exoplanets thousands of light years away, how come no one saw this mystical planetoid? I can see Jupiters moons with binoculars, out of all the crazy conspiracy jerks watching the skies why weren’t there any sightings?
We have detected and labelled planetoids and rocks as small as a VW bug in our solar system; why is it that these vile deceptive liars who wage war on their own friends and family with fear expect us to believe that they–with their lack of academic qualifications, and not even a telescope to their name–know all the secrets because they read it on the Internet yet all the learned people of the world who’s life work is to spread and share knowledge are wrong,
We need to shun conspiracy nuts. We need to show them that the dark ages have gone, living in fear if mystical beings who conveniently only the chosen conspiracy nuts get to talk to are figments of their twisted and cruel imaginations. Pseudoscientific nonsense like this is a great example. A solar flare CANNOT move a planet, planetoid, or barely even a small micrometeorite.
I volunteer for the Planetary Society documenting and monitoring solar activity; there was no unusual solar activity in the last fortnight, not even any medium scale solar storms, it’s nice an quiet out there.
Lets face it; just like that preacher who wouldn’t admit he was wrong and said ohlolwrongdate and then later said oh it happened you just weren’t paying attention is such a typical reaction for people who live their entire lives in denial. Regardless, these people have a mental disorder, a disease of the mind. They are incapable of helping themselves with education because–naturally due to some conspiracy–educators are all wrong and part of some odious scheme to brainwash the masses. You can’t take them to a doctor for a mental health evaluation because of course all doctors are reptilian aliens. All we can do is silence their inane crazy ranting with truth, fact, and logic.
They can NEVER retort against those because their arguments have not even a scrap of science fiction make believe pseudo-reality to them and are purely in the realms of imagination and impossibility.’
There is no Nibiru. We won’t be here to see the end of the world as a species, to think we will is naive at best and deluded or psychologically disturbed at worst. Stop living life in fear of the unknown, it’s only unknown to you because talking on forums with other mentally disturbed people is the limits of your enlightenment. Go back to school and you’ll find the vast majority of your unknowns are well known to the rest of us scientifically minded folk.
(PS: If science and conspiracy busting is your bag, add me on twitter (click my name in this post), I not only follow everyone back, but I am quite often asked to debunk and logic blast asshats all over the Internet and have turned exposing lying scumbags into an art form, I guarantee not to disappoint!)
I am told that banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.
I assume that Nassim Haramein is a skinny dude with a giant headache.
14. RWE
There’s an anecdote that 2006, on some bankers’ meet, the CEO of Bank of Canada was being seduced by US bankers to get into bundled leveraged derivatives. His reply allegedly was: “Thanks, but no. I am in a banking business, not in gambling.”
16. Baobo
Who says that modern science is not into miracles?
It is easier to have one than rewriting textbooks and losing tenures.
But suppose that head binding may create a condition not that dissimilar to hydrocephalus, in some cases. That would work as a tentative hypothesis, except that this condition would likely be terminal in a short order (a headbound toddler won’t last past his third birthday, if that long). But if that part is not mentioned, we have a winner!
See how easy it is?
27- I know there are lots of things that have weird feedback effects in biology and elsewhere. If binding feet makes them smaller (proven) then it stands to reason about skulls. Still you are right, damn you.
24. BaSH PR0MPT
Are you a closet calvinist? … trying to impose your dour world upon us, taking away the gaudium the world-enders provide. Feh!
The only (ok, major) silliness of Krugman’s argument for massive buildup is that he and the Libs don’t want to cut any other welfare programs for Obama’s people.
And I do appreciate miracles, thanking all kinds of deity/deities for averting end of the world, Merry Christmas to you.
Twobyfour #26:
Gambling? It was a sure thing! Better than sure, guranteed! Backed by the full faithless credit of the Feral Govt! Just ask Bwany Fwank!
Bruce #11:
Back in the 80′s a scientist looked at some satellite data (think it was IRAS) and concluded that 50,000 small slushball comets of around 100 tons of ice each were hitting planet Earth every year. Other “scientists” said that was absurd and continued to do so as each of their objections were overcome by additional data. The idea is now regarded as discredited, it would seem, although I don’t think that anyone ever explained the original and supporting data.
charles @ 12 -
My family is on Generation 13 since our forebears first entered into
The Covenant of the Shining City Upon the Hill
MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA!
AMEN
“…concluded that 50,000 small slushball comets of around 100 tons of ice each were hitting planet Earth every year”
Wouldn’t that explain the rising seas, though, who do you sue for that?
I shoud’ve had the chicken noodle.
Annoy #33:
Perhaps not the rising seas – a lot of the water probably stays at high altitude and sublimates or something off into space – but it would explain every drop of water that is now on Planet Earth. Thus the idea was hotly opposed by a scientist whose life work was proving that eventually planets lose all of their water to space. If the comets are coming in like that then his life work was meaningless.
The satellite data showed what looked like water hitting the Earth’s upper atmosphere. Detailed analysis of the characteristics of the IR dots seen on the data showed it still looked like that. Water was measured in the upper atmosphere where there should be none. Telescope data showed objects that looked like small comets passing the Earth.
If he had said there were 1000 comets of 100 tons of water hitting Earth every year he would have been hailed as a genius. But his data showed 50K, which he reported, and the community decided that a well respected scientist with impeccable credentials was a loon – because they did not want to believe the data.
The best argument against the idea I heard was from an astronomer I worked with who said that if we were seeing them hit Earth we would be seeing them hit the Moon. Of course I doubt the water would stay on the Moon (although there is some there at the pole). And I assume that at least some of the ones bound for the Moon would be captured instead by Earth’s gravity well.
No significant amount of water on the moon. That is hard to explain even with cosmic origens of H2o. You have atmosphere capturing comets, and though the moon is a smaller target, at the proposed rate of production it would capture some measurable accumulation. Maybe an electrostatic repulsion of molecules? Haft ta ponder that some more.
Annoy Mouse @ 4 re Krugman’s plan to stimulate the economy by fighting off an alien invasion: “It’s probably true but it is a call for action not as a gigantic union bribe or to idle people with food stamps, unemployment and free condoms. It is a call to get off you’re behind and save earth.”
Indeed. And if we really did believe that Bad Aliens — Republican Aliens! — were coming and we had to get ready fast, the first thing would be a Cease & Desist order to the EPA. Closely followed by a Lincolnian Federal rule suspending all regulations issued by every State, city, and county. The Sierra Clubs of this world would find their doors chained shut, and their staffs interned — along with all the lawyers who service them.
Then we would get down to work.
Krugman’s thought experiment is actually quite interesting — a blind squirrel finding a nut. He is right, but not for the reason he thinks.
rwe @ 34: The best argument against the idea I heard was from an astronomer I worked with who said that if we were seeing them hit Earth we would be seeing them hit the Moon.
Well, that’s a pretty good argument because we would also see millions and billions of years cumulative effect on the moon, which would be a significant smoothing (randomization) of features, and even if free water was sun-blasted off the moon at a high rate some chemical oxidation reactions would stay behind and probably be spectrascopically visible even from the Earth.
I mean hey, 50,000 a year would be knocking down the occassional satellite, wouldn’t it? Now maybe if they averaged much smaller and were not even comets but NEOs, maybe averaging snowball size well under one foot, then they could patter down on the moon (and Earth) and hardly be noticed? But I have to think that kind of flux might still impact satellites, but maybe not, have to run some numbers on that – somebody better than I would have to run those numbers.
But I gather there just aren’t after all that many snowballs wizzing around the solar system, all sorts of mechanisms mitigate against it, Saturn’s rings being the exception that makes the rule – we see it there, but we see it as unusual, and I’m not sure even there what the size distribution goes down to, things seem to clump up at least loosely, given billions of years!
35. Annoy Mouse
No significant amount of water on the moon.
…………
Water on the moon? Maybe a lot more than we thought … thanks to the sun.
A new study finds ‘an unanticipated, abundant reservoir’ of water on the moon, molecules formed on the surfaces of oxygen-bearing rocks bombarded by protons from the solar wind.
By Pete Spotts, Staff writer / October 15, 2012
The moon’s top layer of crushed rock and soil may hold far more water than previously estimated, according to a new study.
Most of that water can trace its origin to protons streaming from the sun, the researchers show, confirming in samples of lunar soil a mechanism for making lunar water that until now largely had been the province of theoretical models.
The find “represents an unanticipated, abundant reservoir” of water on the moon, according to researchers from three US universities, who formally reported their results Sunday in the journal Nature Geoscience. And it could help explain the presence of water on other airless planets and asteroids in the inner solar system.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/1015/Water-on-the-moon-Maybe-a-lot-more-than-we-thought-thanks-to-the-sun
…………
In March 2010, it was reported that the Mini-RF on board the India’s Chandrayaan-1 had discovered more than 40 permanently darkened craters near the Moon’s north pole which are hypothesized to contain an estimated 600 million metric tonnes(1.3 trillion pounds) of water-ice.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_water
c @ 38: A new study finds ‘an unanticipated, abundant reservoir’ of water on the moon, molecules formed on the surfaces of oxygen-bearing rocks bombarded by protons from the solar wind.
Um, if you read the article, it says no such thing. It suggests that protons from the sun bombarding rocks create hydroxyl radicals, just HO, short one hydrogen. That ain’t water, folks. The article does not quite relate the whole story as the science is not quite there yet either, I suppose the proposition is then that continued bombardment finally supplies the last proton, an electron arrives from – somewhere, and you *do* get a molecule of H2O, which then magically migrates to the poles and dives down into one of those putative water-containing craters. Hmm, maybe. But I thought that a more recent kinetic attack NASA made on those craters failed to churn up as much H2O as thought, it was going on zero for a while and then they finally saw at least some, wasn’t that how it went? Lesse. That was LCROSS in 2009. Hmm. I can’t seem to Google quickly to an appropriate cite, only that the crash plume was less than expected. I believe the water quantity also was problematic but “maybe they hit a dry spot”?!
Wretchard says: Suppose anything which can happen in fact does, then the quantum many universes theory holds that an endless number of outcomes is spawned, with versions of ourselves living in each one.
The many universes theory in which anything is possible reminds me of some lines from Steve Goodman’s ballad, “A Dying Cubs Fan’s Last Request”:
“He told his friends, ‘You know the law of averages
Says that anything will happen that can.
But the last time the Cubs won a National League pennant
Was the year we dropped the bomb on Japan.’”
For those suffering from baseball withdrawal syndrome or just enjoy a little humor at the expense of Chicago, here’s the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xBxZGQ1dJk
Well, maybe Nibiru will hit Wrigley Field and the space aliens will help the Cubbies take the 2013 World Series.
39. Josh
Water on the Moon Confirmed by NASA Crashes
Ker Than
for National Geographic News
Updated 10:00 p.m. ET, November 13, 2009
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/11/091113-water-on-the-moon.html
It’s official: There’s water on the moon—and a “significant amount” of it, too, members of NASA’s recent moon-crash mission, LCROSS, announced today.
In October, NASA crashed a two-ton rocket and the SUV-size LCROSS (Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite) into the permanently shadowed crater Cabeus on the moon’s south pole.
Despite disappointing many amateur astronomers on Earth, who had been expecting to see a giant plume of lunar dust and ice crystals, the moon-water mission was a success, NASA says. (See NASA ‘Moon Bombing’ a Hit, But LCROSS Impact Invisible?”)
The LCROSS team took the known near-infrared light signature of water and compared it to the impact spectra LCROSS near-infrared recorded after the probe had sent its spent rocket crashing into the moon.
A spectrometer helps identify the composition of materials by examining which wavelengths of light they emit or absorb.
“We got good fits” for the data graphs, said Anthony Colaprete, LCROSS’s principal investigator, at today’s press conference at the NASA Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California.
“We could not put other compounds [in] and generate the same fit.”
Additional evidence of water on the moon came from LCROSS’s ultraviolet spectrometer, which detected energy signatures associated with hydroxyl, a byproduct of the breakup of water by sunlight.
The amount of moon water kicked up by the LCROSS crashes could fill about a dozen 2-gallon (7.6-liter) buckets, said Colaprete, adding that this is just a conservative estimate.
The confirmation of water on the moon raises the possibility that humans may one day be able to extract drinking water or breathable oxygen as well as the raw ingredients for rocket fuel from moon rocks, Michael Wargo, chief lunar scientist for Exploration Systems at NASA headquarters in Washington, D.C., said at the conference.
We’re actually at a unique and historical turning point. A historical paradigm shift of future history.
Modern liberal culture that is — the culture of death, is based on an assessment of the future of expanding population stressing limited resources on an island planet in a vast deserted empty universe. This culture started in the 1960′s 70′s as the outer limits of the technology of the 2nd industrial revolution (begun about 1890)were reached . (The mirror image of the culture of death is the Chinese PLA who have bought into the culture of death and have based their expansionist militarist policy on one of limited resources. similar to the Japanese Imperial Navy in the 20′s and 30′s.)
There are models for this death culture in the past.
The most interesting thing about the Mayans was their demise. Archaeology shows that in good times they warred between each other and sacrificed rival kings and warriors to their bloody gods. In bad times, that is when the rains stopped, they sacrificed their own princes and then their own children to their gods before dispersing and letting their cities return to the jungle.http://bit.ly/Y1dWGg
The Moche in Peru are another model for this culture of death. their civilization died for the most part about 630 AD during an el nino. 30 years of drought followed by 30 years of rain. Archaeologists have found silted in temple tops strewn with the bodies of nobility with their heads bashed in and their throats cut. They were sacrificed during monumental decades long rains so as to get the rains to stop. http://bit.ly/Wy3eYB
The third culture of death model is the story of the inhabitants of Easter Island. Easter Island is about 1500 miles west of Chile out in vast Pacific. Polynesians coming from north of there — in one of the last pulses of Polynesian migrations–first settle Easter Island about 1000 AD. They brought rats with them. The island was covered with trees when they arrived. But after 400 years or so they chopped down all the trees so as to provide transport for their stone idols. as a result they cut themselves off from escape by sea and cut off a food resource. There were no animals on the island and apparently without boats their ability to fish was limited as was their knowledge of farming. As a result, in the 1600′s they resorted to cannibalism. The island has numerous caves with the cave fronts nearly sealed to keep human predators.http://bit.ly/USxfB0
Easter Island is probably the most Iconic for the liberal culture of death–because it represents the island earth being steadily depleted of its resources while surrounded and cut off by limitless deserted uninhabitable space.
In the last several weeks, I have seen on tv channels stories about the Maya, the Moche and the Easter Islanders.
However, things are changing. We are in the middle of a third great technological revolution. This information revolution is changing future history from one of famine to one of abundance.
The next thing this information revolution will do is provide orders of magnitude more energy and water at cheaper rates than previously known just as the internal combustion engine, the electrical motor gasoline and electricity dams and viaducts and pipelines provided several orders of magnitude more energy and water for the 20th century. In the 20th century this meant that patches of the world’s deserts were turned green and the great plains were farmed. In the 21st century this will mean that all the world’s deserts will be turned green.
This third great technological revolution will not just double the size of the habitable earth by turning the deserts green. This third great technological revolution will turn the deserts of space green.
Water on the moon and mars is important because water can be split for energy, drunk for water and used to grow crops. Also, discovered on the moon is plenty thorium and H2. Both elements can be used for nuclear energy –they’ll have a handy local supply. Complex robots and 3D printing will enable frontiersmen there to create their own parts and tools on the spot. Companies have already been formed in the USA and elsewhere for space mining. They’ll spend the next decade or three surveying the local area and the asteroid belt for the richest planets–so that when the technology becomes available — they’ll know the best places to mine.
The discovery of thousands of exoplanets is a world beater and may in the future define this age — but its barely noted because the technology to get there is yet far out in science fiction.