Silver Lining
In a deepening crisis many things will get steadily worse, but counter-intuitively some things will get unexpectedly better. Historical discontinuities not only marks ends, but also beginnings. The trick to riding the wave is figuring out what things are going up and what things are going down. The list of things going down includes the EU, big government and the societies of the Middle East.
Iraq has been rocked by a wave of bombings that ominously presage increased ethnic tensions. Italian bonds are having to pay out 7% again, Hungary is having to pay 10%, and Eurozone bank shares fell for the second day running. The European news collectively suggests that the Continent’s financial crisis, far from being over, is simply back from the Christmas holidays.
California has seen its planned high-speed rail project triple in price to nearly $100 billion, and the California High-Speed Rail Peer Review Group declared it financially infeasible, thus putting a damper on the proposed bond offering to raise more money for it. The project’s woes haven’t changed the Golden State’s determination to build it. But President Obama has set about trying to reduce the deficit by cutting back on the US military.
U.S. President Barack Obama is expected to unveil on Thursday a new defense plan reflecting billions of dollars in budget cuts and ending a decades-old strategy of being prepared to fight two wars at once …
The strategic review is expected to emphasize a U.S. commitment to the Asia-Pacific region as a result of Washington’s growing concerns over Beijing’s rapidly expanding military. Another prominent part of the review is a strategy to counter Iran.
Panetta will announce plans to cut troop numbers, reduce civilian staff, and delay several new weapons programs, including construction of a new aircraft carrier. He also wants to find ways to cut personnel costs by reviewing military pensions and health care spending for troops and their families.
Some news reports say troop levels could be cut by 10 percent, mostly from the Army and Marines. Reports says this reduction could include soldiers stationed in Europe and some troops focused on counter-insurgency efforts in countries like Afghanistan.
That means there will be very little margin left in case something blows in the Middle East. Bloomberg is reporting that Egypt is nearly out of money and that means trouble in a country that must import a very large portion of its bread.
Egypt’s international reserves (EGIRES) fell for a 12th month in December, extending a slide that may undermine the central bank’s ability to defend the currency.
Reserves declined to $18.1 billion from $20.2 billion in November, according to data posted on the bank’s website today. They stood at $36 billion a year ago, before the start of the revolt that ousted President Hosni Mubarak. Central bank support has helped cushion the impact of political turmoil on Egypt’s currency.
“It’s a bigger drop than the market had expected and underscores the toll that political tensions continue to take on the Egyptian economy,” said Simon Williams, the Dubai-based chief economist for the Middle East and North Africa at HSBC Holdings Plc. The drop will add to expectations that “the Egyptian pound will weaken from here on.” Tourists and investors have shunned Egypt since protests began almost a year ago.
Egypt is in free fall, and there was bad news elsewhere, as the region’s markets collectively dropped by $111 billion. “With the exception of Qatar, the Arab World’s stock markets all ended the year with sharp drops both in share prices and trading volume as unrest took the wind out of much of the regional economy and sent political shivers everywhere.”
The fires are being stoked from yet another direction by Europe’s decision to ban the importation of Iranian oil. “A final decision by the European Union will not come before the end of January and would be carried out in stages to avoid major disruptions in global oil supplies.” But Iran, which needs oil revenues to import goods, may not take it lying down.
The increasingly shrill tone from Iran seemed a direct response, diplomats suggested, to economic sanctions that are finally biting hard and threaten to damage Iran’s ability to export oil. Oil represents about 60 percent of Iran’s economy, and oil exports are a vital source of foreign currency. In 2010, European countries bought about 18 percent of Iranian oil exports, with most of the rest going to Asia. So a European oil embargo would have a limited but significant effect on Iran, which depends heavily on its oil exports for cash to buy needed imports.
But if the crisis in the Middle East is proximate, it involves only second rate powers. The only real first rate power facing America is China. Maybe Panetta is right after all to keep his eye on Asia as the Washington Post reports that China is now focused on merely keeping North Korea from collapsing. “Pyongyang’s precarious power transfer has narrowed China’s goals on the Korean Peninsula, experts here say, turning Beijing from a benefactor and adviser into a protector — concerned foremost with preventing collapse, not pushing for improvement.” It is worried above all about North Korea folding in a southerly direction. “The notion of a democratized Korean Peninsula with U.S. troops positioned directly along the Chinese border — one scenario in a North Korean collapse — is threatening to China.”
While America faces a potential two-front crisis with a one front fire brigade, President Obama is focusing his efforts on getting his chosen man into the strategically crucial position of Consumer Protection watchdog, even if he has to defy Congress to do it. New York Magazine’s Jonathan Chait describes the President’s sure sense of priorities:
So Obama tried the audacious and legally indeterminate move of simply declaring the pro-forma session a sham, insisting Congress really was on recess, and appointing his man. … recognizing that Congress is simply treating every negotiation as a zero-sum contest undertaken with the goal of defeating him, Obama has abandoned any hope of negotiation or legislative progress …
Part of the agenda entails talking up bills he knows Congress won’t pass, like new infrastructure spending. Part involves taking unilateral steps that bypass Congress, like executive orders or recess appointments. Obama’s political advisers believe that this makes him look strong and demonstrates his desire for action.
Yes, that’s the ticket.
So what’s the good news? The best news is that the real people in the real world continue to figure out better ways to produce goods and services. The most dramatic of these developments is the shale gas revolution. It offers the real possibility that the world’s most productive countries will soon dominate energy production or at least become self-sufficient.
But the real news from EIA studies is that shale gas is abundant in territories previously regarded as poor in fossil fuels or dependent on imports: China, the United States and Argentina head the list, but large reserves are also found in South Africa, Australia, Poland, France, Chile, Sweden, Paraguay, Pakistan and India.
“The global energy chessboard is changing, and markets will be realigned. Countries that have never had so much available energy will become self-sufficient, and perhaps even exporters,” Luis Alberto Terrero, head of the Venezuelan Gas Processors Association (AVPG), told IPS.
As gas supplies grow, “fossil fuels may become cheaper, the growth of alternative energies will slow down, and new alliances, investments and trade networks will be established,” Terrero said.
Developments like this, when juxtaposed against the tally of failing institutions suggest that the future may be one in which the balance of power will shift from the spenders using deficit financing, and the rent-takers (the Middle East) and the blackmailers (North Korea) to one where the producers are relatively more influential. The next few decades, provided the world doesn’t blow itself up getting there, may belong to those who make and design new things rather than those who appropriate them and hand things around.
It is already making the shift and the crisis is how it is doing it.
The growth industries of the future might be in trade, industry, science and engineering. By contrast, the day of the ambulance chaser, financial Master of the Universe, SEIU organizer and journalistic hack may be coming to a close. What the current crisis is doing is burning out the latter to clear the way for the former. It is a process of creative destruction that has almost no input from the Republican Party.
Jonathan Chait still believes that President Obama’s decision to defy Congress is calculated to “trap Mitt Romney”. Chait’s analysis perfectly captures the clueless nature of the current elite. He thinks it is all about them. Chait writes:
Obama’s primary charge against Mitt Romney is likely to be that he wants to return to the Bush era. The accusation will have several points to bolster it – lock in Bush-era tax levels for the rich, let insurance companies discriminate against families with a pre-existing condition – but the most powerful is Romney’s strong support for repealing Dodd–Frank. The accusation has resonance because Romney comes from the world of finance, has drawn extremely strong support from finance, and he simply looks like a stereotypical Wall Street shark.
If I were Obama, I would want to set up financial reform as the number one contrast issue of the presidential election. Appointing Cordray to the post is a good step to establishing the contrast. And Romney, perhaps still concerned about a conservative primary threat, seems to be walking right into the trap.
Adequately articulated, but completely beside the point.
If Obama is risking a constitutional crisis and going through all this trouble to trap Mitt Romney because he fears a “return to the Bush era” then his thought processes are truly irrelevant to events taking place all around him. It is events themselves which are destroying the ideology and goals of Hope and Change. It is shredding the last vestiges of his Middle Eastern policy. It is making a mockery of his Green Energy platform. It is repudiating his perfection of the New Deal. It is doing all of these in the strongest possible way and Mitt Romney has nothing to do with it.
What is truly peculiar about the 2012 Presidential election so far is that it seems to be taking place in 2004 rather than today. The main candidates on either side appear to be vying for the leadership of a bygone world. It is more likely that whoever wins in November will face a situation so radically changed that he will have to remind himself even then, that the process of transformation will have only have just begun. The task for him will not be to return to an era — whether FDR’s or GWB’s — as much as to find one. With any luck by then the trends will be clear.
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About little margin and blow ups in the middle east. Why not let them twist in the wind for a bit? Something resembling the Iran – Iraq war would do great good, keeping the ME occupied with killing one another. Higher petroleum prices would put increasing pressure for the use of our own sources, this would shine sunlight onto the eco-fascists that they cannot survive in. Anything that stings Joe Sheeple and gets him off the couch is usuable, it’s the first step in getting any type of real change in motion.
“… whoever wins in November will face a situation so radically changed that he will have to remind himself even then that it will have only have just begun. The task for him will not be to return to an era — whether FDR’s or GWB’s — as much as to define one.”
An insightful observation, and a pivotal question to keep top of mind as we race toward Nov 2012. Who’s prepared to and capable of leading the country toward the future, while at the same time they work to unravel the snarled, pernicious mess Obama will leave behind?
“While America faces a potential two-front crisis with a one front fire brigade…”
We are shifting from a WWII to front strategy to a WWI single front strategy.
“As gas supplies grow, “fossil fuels may become cheaper, the growth of alternative energies will slow down…”
World governments bought into the Kyoto scam and the people are rejecting it. When people reject dubious scientific claims, it is hard to lead from behind, more like left in the dust. How do you regain credibility?
“…”the balance of power will shift from the spenders using deficit financing, and the rent-takers (the Middle East) and the blackmailers (North Korea) to one where the producers are relatively more influential.”
That sounds so much like the plot line to Atlas Shrugged. Gee, maybe capitalism really does work… once everything else has been tried and retried…
The Black Plague had the inadvertant effect of bolstering the emerging tradesmen class, which eventually led to the creation of what we now call the middle class or the ‘bourgeoise.’
A terrible time begat a better one, which in turn led to the Age of Exploration and the Rennaissance.
The neo-luddite elite will fight tooth-and-nail against a resurgence of the still-existing hydrocarbon era. They just drew a line in the sand in Ohio, with some state “expert” claiming that frakking (sp?) caused the earthquakes in Ohio. Man-made tremors do happen, especially with multikiloton underground nuke tests, and it’s physically possible for a fluid and pressure transfer process on a large scale — like frakking — to cause localized tremors inadvertantly. But tremors that were felt all the way to New York? I’m no geologist, but I seriously doubt it; and I say that allowing for the fact that the big Eastern tectonic plate carries even weak tremors by natural quakes a lot further than the California fault line does. I think we’re seeing fraudulent ideologically-motivated “scientism” at work in this Ohio claim.
“…. ending a decades-old strategy of being prepared to fight two wars at once.”
We have the ability to fight any number of war simultaneously. It is called Nuke’Em.
So the man that wants to rid the world of nuclear weapons takes yet another step that will make them more important. For him, that’s about par for the course – and he’s not a good player.
“The notion of a democratized Korean Peninsula with U.S. troops positioned directly along the Chinese border —”
The PRC once again proves it is more stuck in the past than anyone, even the Islamics. The only reason we have troops in S. Korea is N. Korea, and we have come to realize that the only reason is really just not to enbolden the North, who are slightly more addicted to relying on signs and other portents to determine what action to take than the Heaven’s Gate cult was. No more Nuts of the North and no more U.S. troops. We got a Kia factory in Alabama now so we do not need to defend our non-UAW auto industry.
“The day of the ambulance chaser, financial Master of the Universe, SEIU organizer and journalistic hack may be coming to a close”.
Devoutly to be wished.
And just because Obama’s highspeed choo choo to nowhere is now declared financially infeasible.
Who knew?
here’s a song for j chait and his brethren (comrades?):
The sun on the meadow is summery warm
The stag in the forest runs free
But gathered together to greet the storm
Yesterday belongs to me
The branch on the linden is leafy and green
The Rhine gives its gold to the sea (Gold to the sea)
But somewhere a glory awaits unseen
Yesterday belongs to me
Now Fatherland, Fatherland, show us the sign
Your children have waited to see
The morning will come
When the world is mine
Yesterday belongs to me
Yesterday belongs to me
Yesterday belongs to me
Yesterday belongs to me
#6
http://www.alfin2100.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-humans-cause-earthquakes.html
“The recent small quakes in the Youngstown, Ohio area are associated with deep well injection of waste fluids — a completely different process from shale fracturing.”
I find it interesting (ironic?) how mired in the past Obama is, all the while trying to cast his vision of “change” as future-oriented. Pushing a 19th Century ideology (that has been proven ineffective on three continents) as a vision of the future is daft — the famous definition of insanity, if you will. Worse yet is the fact that so many people still follow this snake-oil salesman. I know, people want to believe in something. That reminds me of W.C. Fields’ famous line: “I like a man who believes in something. I believe I’ll have another drink.” Well Obama believes in something. He believes those late-night conversations in college were based on sound historical analysis. He would have been better off having another drink.
More alarming than the fact that Obama wants to revive a failed European political philosophy is that so many voters (lead by journalist hacks) were convinced by his charlatanism. It is refreshing to see the marketplace ignore them and move on in it’s own direction, making shale oil and gas affordable and widely available. The evolution might not take place fast enough to discard Obama this year, but it appears as inevitable as Marxism claims (or used to claim) it was.
The military cuts are sustainable if taken in the right place. Closing bases in Germany would not be a problem (except for German merchants who make a lot of money from the presence of US military there). Slowing or cancelling another carrier might not be damaging to a military that is learning to use drones for ever-wider applications. (Yes, there will always be a place for manned aircraft.)
How foolish the Republican party can be made to look might not even matter much this election: there’s a growing groundswell of dissatisfaction with Obama, even in his own party.
Well we can hope, can’t we?
I’m rather afraid that Obambus is onto a strategy which is truly better than anything the Republicans are saying, better both politically and perhaps economically. So hey, I’d become an Obambus supporter, if I thought for a moment that he actually knew how to *fulfill* his promises. His claims include that he wants to defend the middle class, retake income from the 1%, and punish the banksters. Republicans, even Mitt Romney, start sounding like LuapNor libertarians when they say, “Expand the economy!”, and they sound like morons who haven’t read a newspaper in four years when they say “Protect our job creators!” and protect the banksters.
Of course Dodd-Frank is ineffective on balance, probably makes things worse overall, but what does Romney propose instead, nothing? Does he at least suggest a return of Glass-Stegall? I at least know that Romney wants more H-1B labor (my hot-button issue), and this tells me Romney has no f’ing clue what is going on in the US or world economies, and his private enterprise CV is basically as an apprentice bankster, he’s not even a Herman Cain who can walk into a pizza joint and personally straighten out the operation.
But if repealing the fraudulent Dodd-Frank has bad optics, passing it in the first place is worse. I’m sure this new consumer protection agency will be a pain to the banksters, but they deserve it, they have earned it, and in PRINCIPLE I support it. In PRACTICE, it being Obambus, I expect the worst, Eric Holder style political grandstanding and throwing gasoline on fires. Then the Republicans can oppose throwing gasoline on the fires, but they are not clearly in favor of putting out the fires, either. It does not sound like a promising election strategy, both sides basically trying to mislead and neither side making effective motions to fix anything.
Politically, saying you want to repeal Dodd-Frank is like saying you want to repeal (reverse) Roe vs Wade just because it is poor law, which it is, even if the practical import would be about zero because 55 of the 57 states would pass virtually the same thing and that would presumably be called good law. Politically this is a hard point to make, like calling for rational immigration reforms (before securing the borders), before passing *modest* health care legislation that 90% of both parties would support. Where have our competent politicians gone? Doesn’t anybody here know how to play this game?
I do get the feeling, based on words and body language, that as Hillary envisioned Obambus has learned a bit on the job in the last three years, not easy for him given the poor quality of advice he probably gets on a daily basis. At this rate, in another twenty years he might be qualified.
Progressives don’t “ride the wave” they believe that they are the wave. If things do not work as planned it is because someone (Republicans, banks, rednecks with shotguns) is in the way. It would never occur to them that there are these great tides of history and forces which cannot be controlled. They are either controlling events or someone else is. Even the climate boils down to politics and ideology.
It is all self referential. Life has only the meaning I give it. There is no invisible hand, no objective standard, nothing that cannot be bent to the collective will if we can just get enough votes.
ps – Chait is of course a charted and registered idiot, but with the unusual property of being extremely proud of his idiocy so that he displays it more clearly than most. Of course I find the discovery of fracking and so much frackable hydrocarbon an almost unbelievable gift from above, that may stabilize world economies and politics for a generation, once morons like Obambus get the hell out of the way. Yet, even with a multi-trillion dollar gift to every major and minor nation, do NOT underestimate the ability of the banksters to steal it all, if you let them. THAT is the lesson of 2008, and I only hope we can learn it, but that too will call for a regime change in the US.
pps – I see a difference in the reply boxes on the page here, and where have all the edit widgets gone?
My own suspicion is that Obamabi is fomenting a crisis about his actions to distract from the whole “Fast and Furious” fiasco and the various green energy scams. This could back fire on him big time though.
Right now it looks like the GOP is going to gain seats in the House and get a majority in the Senate, if things are bad enough economically maybe even a super majority in the Senate. If that happens and if by some miracle Obama gets re-elected I could see the impeachment proceeding starting against him in March of 2013. His best bet would be not to run and look for an out of country residence with some socialist friend.
#6
http://www.alfin2100.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-humans-cause-earthquakes.html
“The recent small quakes in the Youngstown, Ohio area are associated with deep well injection of waste fluids — a completely different process from shale fracturing.”
Thank you for that update. I see no problem with “small quakes in Ohio” if it means that people with no more than a high school education can make above-average livings from the industry that produces a lot more than small quakes. A small price to pay for a hopeful and prosperous future.
Interesting take from a Zerohedge post:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-iran-strait-hormuz-bad-bluff-or-good-gamble
Point is that Iran had no strategic advantage in challenging now on Strait closure, and therefore might be much closer to “making it stick” with nuclear leverage.
#16: re small quakes in Ohio.
Manmade quakes first happened (to the best of my memory) in Denver during the mid-1960s, when the Army at the Rocky Mountain Arsenal pumped 150 million gallons into a fault zone. The liquid lubricated the fault zone, creating quakes. The quakes stopped when the Army stopped pumping. Appears they found some faults in Ohio that were either unknown or not expected to be loaded.
The anti-frac greens are going down the same road as the manmade global warming gonzos did – with everything bad now being caused by fracing. (Remember snow storms being caused by global warming?) The problem we have is with new oil and natural gas exploration and production taking place literally everywhere in the not so distant future, the greens can and will blame every earth movement on fracing – sort of a variation on the old Six Degrees of Separation from Kevin Bacon game. Cheers -
18. agimarc
Thank you for the post. I think it was right on the money.
If you peruse the major military conflicts of the US you find that they appear to be generational – 20 to 30 years apart. Iran’s last major conflict started in 1980. By the generational observation they are about due.
The prime objective in war is to get the other side to stop – for a long time. Large war strategy has always been about logistics. The JDAM and long distance (stand off) stealth capability solve that problem cheaply and quickly. One US carrier task force is now more effective than the massed bomber fleets of WWII. If Iran tries to close the strait we could quite easily take out their power and fuel infrastructure without them being able to shoot back.
The DoD is correct in their strategic decisions. We don’t need that many boots on the ground if we can easily starve the enemy. We do, however, need a large number of ships and aircraft to discourage the minor players. Freedom of the seas and all that.
Agimarc @18
We’ll know for decades that the filling of the lakes behind our dams can cause minor, local earthquakes. In one case, in Italy, the new lake caused a huge landslide into the lake that displaces the water over the dam, killing hundreds downstream.
These minor tremors from frakking are unlikely to cause any damage.
I do suspect that the “unboundless natural gas” promise sounds a lot like the “too cheap to meter” prediction from the head of the new Atomic Energy Commission back in the 1950s. Of course, that guy was an FDR socialist and meters were more expensive back then.
Obama will win reelection because the GOP is the stupid party. Democrats running for will lie and tell voters they’re going to do all kinds of wonderful bipartisan things and engage the center but once they win their elections they govern the way you knew they would all along, as liberals and leftists. Republicans on the other hand tell voters they’re going to do all kinds of wonderful conservative things but once they are elected they move left and govern like Democrats. In other words Democrats lie but remain true to their core values whereas Republicans lie and sell out their core values. The latter trait is to my way of thinking the more hateful of the two because it has an Eddie Haskell quality that makes you just want to punch the guilty parties in the face and hit them in the back of the head with a two-by-four. And if you don’t get the Eddie Haskell reference I suggest you do a search on YouTube for Leave it to Beaver episodes.
Wretchard does a great job as usual of pointing out the number of material moving parts in play in the world today. For those of us who find analogies useful, it is very difficult for me to find the appropriate historical analogy of :
1) All of the major economic powers effectively broke or limited in inability to prudently add debt to their balance sheets. Even China may be limited given their shadow debts.
2) Demographic changes aplenty around the globe, with a major country of 80 Million people potentially facing mass starvation within a year.
3) Third world powers able to hold larger powers hostage at some threat level.
4) Multiple, multiple geopolitical players who can influence the direction of global events.
5) Incredible physical and electronic connectivity across the world via trade, communications and personal contact.
I can’t arrive at an analogy for this situation; perhaps it would be useful to break the issues down into smaller parts, but that risks oversimplifying the problem. I guess this is just another way of saying that we are in uncharted waters in so many dimensions and we have no idea what margin of error is available to those making the important decisions. As importantly, they likely have no idea either.
Steeple – The world you describe informs me that the just thing to do is to lead by positive example, live well and defend your way of life. The dictators approach is to force every one else to live by your rules. This can be done through threats of force, force, and force of guilt. Leftists prefer the latter but practice the former with aplomb.
W “counter-intuitively some things will get unexpectedly better.”
Reminiscent of Matt Ridley’s book “The Rational Optimist”. Over the long haul, things have demonstrably been getting better in a pattern that has persisted over centuries. The 20th Century was an utter disaster — 2 World Wars, a Great Depression, Stalinist mass murder, Maoist mass murder, and punk rock. Yet at the end of the 20th C, more human beings were living healthier, longer, better-fed lives than at the beginning.
Let the hard rain fall. Let it wash away the EUtopians and the Obaminoids and all the other Progressive abominations. The human race will continue onwards & upwards. In the long term.
K 25, I never liked Punk Rock but I haven’t gotten to the point of equating it with Mass Murder. Disco on the other hand….
I was about mile from where the quake hit in Youngstown and it slammed into the house and shook the whole place in an instant. I’ve been in a dozen earthquakes in my life in different parts of the world and this didn’t feel like any of them. Normally they start small and build and then trail off (in a matter of a few seconds, if you’re lucky). I told a friend about this and there happened to be a geologist standing there. Normally, there is not a geologist around when you need one. He said there are three types of waves sent out by an earthquake and the three travel at different speeds. I was so close they didn’t have time to separate. He also thought it unlikely the well had anything to do with it (there are enough wells around that an earthquake will probably be near one).
My relatives on New Years were a tough sell on that theory. They wanted to shut fracking down in general. But, of course, not pay more for energy.
I had another theory on the cause: since the well was in Youngstown the Mayor’s brother-in-law was probably in charge. Just a theory. In any case, they have shut the well down.
The most dramatic of these developments is the shale gas revolution.
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What’s most annoying and stupid here is that the USA is going to hand China the keys to energy independence without extracting any price in the south china sea.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/01/03/total-buys-2-3-billion-stake-in-chesapeake-shale-assets/
(fyi the chinese have extended claims to the south china sea in order to get at oil & gas deposits thought to be hidden there. resource extraction is considered to be the primary rationale for the extension of the power of the PLA.)
It would be a simple thing –and save absolutely everyone…including the Chinese–for the USA to hold up shale gas technology transfer to China until such time as they come to the table with their neighbors to negotiate recognized boundaries in the south china sea and for that matter until they negotiate mutually recognized borders with Japan.
Heck the wisdom of negotiating mutually recognized boundaries along their borders could even be argued from the POV of the Chinese as this would be the quickest way to get the USA off their periphery–as well as getting them energy independece.
The chinese have a two party system. trouble is the USA plays the part of the second party. this is not as it should be.
Roughcoat @ 22 said:
“Obama will win reelection because the GOP is the stupid party.”
I want Obama to lose and will vote for whoever runs against him. However I’m disturbed by the idea that from a conservative perspective, Obama winning is a better situation than Romney winning.
Obama represents a historical opportunity to permanently discredit socialism in America. The best way to achieve this would be to soundly defeat Obama in 2012 and replace him with a competent conservative. The next best way would be for Obama to hammer the country into the ground during his second term and a conservative clean up after him.
Romney is certainly RINO and a liberal dressed up as a Republican. However the MSM would present him as a conservative if he was elected President. If Romney failed to solve the country’s economic problems (which is likely) then the general public would incorrectly see equivalence between socialist and conservative political ideology. Thus the opportunity to permanently discredit socialism in America would be lost.
Re. 14. Josh “…once morons like Obambus get the hell out of the way….”
They will never get out: they are a feature, not a bug.
Dr Kronkheit Dr Kronkhet!
Yes? What’s wrong?
My hand hurts.
Ouch! You just stepped on my foot.
Dr Kronkheit Dr Kronkheit!
Yes? What is wrong?
My foot hurts.
Ouch! You just poked me in the eye.
Dr Kronkheit Dr Kronkheit!
Yes? What is wrong?
Nothing. Nothing is wrong now.
If Romney failed to solve the country’s economic problems
He may not “solve” all of them, but the very fact that Romney wins will boost business confidence dramatically. Romney’s also very, very likely to let America unleash its hydrocarbon industry, thereby forming the underpinnings for a substantially improved economy. It takes a very special idiot to deliberately suppress the American economy, and Obama is that idiot. It doesn’t take a genius in his place to make the economy take off since the formula is as simple as what I just outlined.
Re 28. Charles “…It would be a simple thing –and save absolutely everyone…including the Chinese–for the USA to hold up shale gas technology transfer to China…”
It would be nice if it work. It won’t: as soon as it has been shown that the fracking works, it was already too late to close knowledge dissemination. Actual latest nuts and bolts do not matter much.
If a pubbie gets into the white house at the end of the year then the break in the price of gold below 1600 will mark the top of Gold for the next couple decades as the pubbies shrink borrowing and energy independence hardens the dollar– & for that matter the energy independence will harden the currencies of a lot of countries around the world.
there will be a lot central bankers around the world with tons of gold in their vaults — bought at high levels in the last year…who will feel really stupid as the price of gold year after year …. dwindles.
“If Romney failed to solve the country’s economic problems (which is likely)”
I supported Romney against McCain but he is not my first choice for 2012. That said I will vote for him if he wins the primary. I beleive that an R president with an R controlled house and senate will role back regulations and grease the skids of small business in one way or another. I think the constrast between the current malaise and a pro-business (especially small business) will be tremendous and a likely goal of any new adminstration.
Big business = oligarchy
Small business = democracy
At least that’s what I think.
THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE
The scales are always moving. As one side goes up, the other goes down. Carthage, the premier economic and military power of the western Mediterranean, was at the height of its power at about the time Romulus and Remus began suckling at the teat of the wolf. And so it goes.
The laden ships, the Inland Sea
Mighty Baal, thy kingdom be
Bestride the world, thy ships for hire
Adventurers who left old Tyre
To start anew in western lands
And carve a city with bare hands
And now you call the west your home
Still knowing not the infant Rome
The Punic language spoke by all
The Latin still an infant’s squall
And yet the scales were trembling now
The Carthage gods with troubled brow
For they foresaw the future clear
The death of Carthage drawing near
The universe is never still
Who climbs the mountain, crests the hill
Will find that on the other side
The slope is steeper, and the ride
From top to bottom’s but a blink
No time to act, no time to think
And so it is with tide and time
The world doth speak, and speak in rhyme
To tell of others who before
Laid up their riches, filled their store
With goods and gold and heady wine
And saw each day as good and fine
That all must end, the circle made
And time to rest in blessed shade
To dream of when your own strong hands
Built Carthage dreams in western lands
33. grrr
Re 28. Charles “…It would be a simple thing –and save absolutely everyone…including the Chinese–for the USA to hold up shale gas technology transfer to China…”
It would be nice if it work. It won’t: as soon as it has been shown that the fracking works, it was already too late to close knowledge dissemination. Actual latest nuts and bolts do not matter much.
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Yes, the Chinese could likely figure out how to get around an embargo fracking technology transfer with the amount of information that is already in the public domain. but it can be argued that current american embargoes on certain technologies do hinder and slow down the Chinese
Consequently, it would be faster and easier for them to simply do things all legal like. Especially if it can be shown that the results have several knock on benefits. (ie the raison de terre for the PLA expansion is to aquire more natural resources in disputed areas like the south china sea. the raison de terre for the USA heavy presence on the chinese periphery is the PLA natural resources power grab. take away the raison de terre and a lot of the problem goes away.
as the USA and the rest of the world gains energy independence the number of warships in and around the persian gulf will diminish.
with some smart diplomacy the same thing could be accomplished in and around the south china sea and the yellow sea.
One of the reasons to like Newt Gingrich is that he seems to be the only Republican candidate with the imagination to consider the coming tidal waves of change, and how to respond to them. Romney is just the establishment guy, and Paul is too fixated on his windmills to see what’s really going on around him.
Of course, one of the reasons to NOT like him is his “open mind” means you never really know what he’s going to do once elected. That is massive arrogance.
@Josh –
“Of course Dodd-Frank is ineffective on balance, probably makes things worse overall, but what does Romney propose instead, nothing?”
Yes that’s the problem. The best thing for the government to do in most cases is nothing. In the current environment, things would start to get better if the government would just stop “doing something” and get out of the way for a while.
Unfortunately, the American people have been conditioned to demand that the government “do something!” about every little problem they encounter. Outraged, they screech “There oughta be a law!” and the federal government responds. They never seem to learn to be careful what you wish for.
That’s the problem with selling conservatism right now. People today don’t seem to want a message of “I’m not going to do anything FOR you, I’m just going to back off and give you the freedom to let you do what you want.” Instead they elect the guy who says “If elected I will give you free stuff.”
Also our elected leaders feel like they have to be seen doing something, in order to justify their jobs. When you’re a hopeless narcissist, it’s unlikely that you’ll hit on fading into the background as the way to solve a problem.
38. Cardozo Bozo:
Except that, with a “properly American” government, the President doesn’t necessarily have to be a visionary, because he wouldn’t be leading the effort. He/she would simply be the head of the executive branch of the federal government. The society at large gets to consider and deal with the coming wave of change. The only “vision” an American president really needs is to insure that the business of America is to let its people go about their business.
When you’re a hopeless narcissist, it’s unlikely that you’ll hit on fading into the background as the way to solve a problem.
Why not? Obama is supposedly “leading from behind” on foreign affairs, so why not domestic ones as well?
yikes Walt that’s good.
and the sound of it man is the ode.
even the Romans were appalled
for Carthage like their ancestor Baal
sacrificed their children to hallucinations
the real lessons are between the eyes
stoned so hard a man realizes his sin
Abraham was the first man whose journey
west was written down.
God called him.
Yet his seed could not remain
without God also staying the knife his hand
to keep him from slaying his son
Pity the man with no invisible means of support
“Obama will win reelection because the GOP is the stupid party.”
I don’t see that it matters, Obama being just a man. Those that surround him have as much to do with current events as he does.
Romney is NOT a serious change. Any change in regulations Mitt creates will be changes that favor his cronies instead of Obama’s cronies.
The problem is corruption. Regulations tilting the playing field are a symptom.
Remember Mitts role in the Olympic scandal. He didn’t fix the problem and punish those guilty, he swept everything under the rug then convinced everybody to stop looking under the rug. Add that to the fact that his administration in Mass was one of the most corrupt in American History and it becomes apparent that the 2012 election will be nothing more then changing Chicago corruption for Boston corruption.
That is change but NOT improvement.
The Neo-Luddites will not be happy until we are all living in caves and starving.
Since they are irrational, no argument can change their minds. One only hopes this latest mouth frothing incident on top of the exposure of AGW as a scam will let the sheeple see them as the nutters they are.
“It would be nice if it work. It won’t: as soon as it has been shown that the fracking works, it was already too late to close knowledge dissemination. Actual latest nuts and bolts do not matter much.” Agreed, the tech has already been transferred to Gazprom, who could turn around and sell it to China. Russia will probably have to shift away from gas exports and more towards oil (they’ll protest and then rake in the higher price bucks when the bombs start falling on Iran) and precious metals.
Plenty of shale gas in Russia too.
“Obama will win reelection because the GOP is the stupid party. ” 100% agree. Instead of demonizing the Pauls the GOP could have wooed the most electable one and asked Rand instead of his 76-year-old father to throw in. Rand would already be polling well ahead of Santorum and neck and neck with Romney by now.
And instead of suggesting that Iran might actually want a bomb, Rand would simply smack Newt/Santorum down by asking if the U.S. after Iraq has any excuse of ignorance for attacking a more powerful country with three times the population. What part of “We…can’t…afford…it” don’t you stupid neocons understand?
http://www.dallasblog.com/201112291008640/dallas-blog/msnbc-s-financier-mitt-romney.html
More proof it’s all professional wrestling at the top anyway — Romney company a major investor in MSNBC.
44. Viktor (not that Victor)
Russia will probably have to shift away from gas exports and more towards oil.
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fracking not only works for natural gas production –it also works for oil producton. US oil production in the last three years has been rising for the first time since the 1970′s principally because of fracking oil.
hdg @ 27: I was about mile from where the quake hit in Youngstown and it slammed into the house and shook the whole place in an instant. I’ve been in a dozen earthquakes in my life in different parts of the world and this didn’t feel like any of them. Normally they start small and build and then trail off.
There are who knows how many dozens of smaller faults around the Los Angeles area that deliver tiny quakes many times a year, and I’ve certainly felt some short, sharp ones that haven’t made the 2.0 filter on the USGS map but are impossible to ignore, made me jump for my shoes and/or the doorway.
OTOH one time I had to go knock on the door of the apartment downstairs to ask if everyone was all right because the whole building was shaking and the source seemed to be there, all I got for an answer was a few giggles but things quieted down somewhat, and we didn’t have to outlaw fracking.
44. Viktor (not that Victor)
More proof it’s all professional wrestling at the top anyway
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fyi
There used to be a small American cottage industry called Kremlinology which consisted of guessing who was up and who was down in the Soviet Politburo by pictures of the top guys standing on the balcony of the Kremlin. Top guys were in the center of the picture. Less important guys were toward the fringes. Guys who were out of power or dead were not in the picture at all.
American politics works somewhat differently.
Eggplant #29:
I have been told there are more people than you would imagine thinking of voting along those lines: the re-election of Obama will inevitably discredit the Democratic Party and Big Government ideas so thoroughly that we will not have to worry about them in our lifetimes.
And I think that is probably true, just as the sinking of the Titanic discredited not having enough lifeboats and not tending to the radio. Just as Pearl Harbor discredited the idea of the battleship. And it may turn out out be true simply because our lifetimes will be rather short. But I won’t be voting for Obama because the only blood I want on on my hands is that which belongs there, not which I got by proxy.
I too voted for Romney in the primary last timne but I don’t think he is the best we can do now because I do not think he is radical enough. Cain and Gingrich are radical enough, and Paul is radical enough – and off his rocker. I thought at one time Paul was getting a bit of a bad rap, being typecast in a fashion that was convienient to his opponents, but it is clear now the way he was portrayed was correct.
I plan to vote for Gingrich in the primary in hopes of sending a message. I have my doubts that message will be received but I will try.
RWE @ 48 said:
“But I won’t be voting for Obama because the only blood I want on on my hands is that which belongs there, not which I got by proxy.”
This is a compelling argument. If Obama hammers the nation into the ground, many innocent people will end up dead.
RWE said:
“… I don’t think [Romney] is the best we can do now because I do not think he is radical enough. Cain and Gingrich are radical enough, and Paul is radical enough – and off his rocker. I thought at one time Paul was getting a bit of a bad rap, being typecast in a fashion that was convenient to his opponents, but it is clear now the way he was portrayed was correct.”
I agree with this analysis. Also, I strongly suspect that many of the people promoting Paul are Obama operatives. The poll prior to the Iowa caucus indicating that Paul was leading smelled like MSM/Obama deception, i.e. they were trying to create a “bandwagon effect” based upon a bogus popularity ramp-up.
RWE also said:
“I plan to vote for Gingrich in the primary in hopes of sending a message. I have my doubts that message will be received but I will try.”
I don’t think anyone is listening but Gingrich is probably the best choice. It’s not clear that Romney can be stopped. It’s also not clear that Romney can beat Obama in the general election. Finally, it’s not clear that Romney if elected could bring about the necessary reform to steer the nation away from socialism or protect the nation from a surprise terrorist/military attack by Islamic fascists.
44. Viktor
You MUST be a Russian — for you stink at economics.
Putin’s entire gambit is to earn Russia’s future by exporting petro-fuels at cartel prices.
Fracking entirely destroys his premise. That he can frack right along with everyone else is not any kind of solution for him.
He’s already fulsomely demonstrated that he is a TERRIBLE ‘trade’ partner. He comes closer to Al Capone hustling beer in 1929s Chicago.
Fracking is also gutting the economics of Iran. Even more than Russia, Iran held the highest hopes for methane exports. Such is not to be. Her number one prospect, India, is certain to frack at home, instead.
Yet now KSA is ruining the heavy, sour sector of the OPEC cartel. Strange that the two most irritating OPEC exporters ( Shi’ite Iran & Iraq ) are massively concentrated at that end of the barrel. What a coincidence!
Yet worse is to come: Yanbu is ramping refined exports — dead ahead.
By taking Greek ‘credits’ Iran is already accepting a discount on its crude. Should Germany and France take over Greek finances — Iran will be kicked to the curb.
The loss of enough markets will cause the mullahs to face monopsony: one buyer able to dictate ‘custom’ discounts.
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As for expenditures: It only gets expensive if you try to reconstruct muslim societies. That’s where W went off the rails. He listened to Powell and Rice.
Economic castration comes much cheaper — and is wise counsel for trouble breeders.
Like Adolf and Stalin; nothing is ever going to bring the mullahs around.
And stop using the royal ‘we’ — it doesn’t fit.
12. Josh – I at least know that Romney wants more H-1B labor (my hot-button issue), and this tells me Romney has no f’ing clue what is going on in the US or world economies, and his private enterprise CV is basically as an apprentice bankster, he’s not even a Herman Cain who can walk into a pizza joint and personally straighten out the operation.
H-1B is a hot button of mine, but it’s tough to find someone of any stripe in a leadership position who doesn’t oppose the cap. Romney’s far from clueless. Sections of his proposed plan deal with unemployment and retraining, but there’s no mention of outsourcing or off-shoring whatsoever. He is in favor of raising H-1B numbers, mentions “the best and brightest” and that immigrants create jobs; he has Meg Whitman guest-arguing that an immigrant founded eBay. (Both the eBay and the oft-mentioned Google immigrant entrepreneurs came to America at the age of six.) It’s too well-crafted and leading to be mistaken for ignorance. It must be working, too, because other than myself, I don’t see any non-STEM people complaining.
It’s one more reason why I wish more people would find the dividing line between pro-business and pro-bigwig.
@ F 11
“Closing bases in Germany would not be a problem (except for German merchants who make a lot of money from the presence of US military there). Slowing or cancelling another carrier might not be damaging to a military that is learning to use drones for ever-wider applications. (Yes, there will always be a place for manned aircraft.)”
You obviously do not understand logistics -
Where praytell are you going to land your a/c once the bases in europe are closed?
Where is the fuel going to come from or be stored?
MX?
Muns?
BOS?
C2?
5 acres of sovereign US real-estate on a carrier that is highly mobile -who would need that capability.
I wonder if the Obama defense plan is an effort to co-opt Ron Paul. At least somebody recognises that if you cut back on Military assets, you need to cut back on military missions. Not sure I would focus on the Pacific Rim.
Power abhors a vacuum. Withdrawing from the Islamic crescent will just allow our enemies there to consolidate power. We will in effect be pushing the You-rows into the front trenches and hoping they fight. If they surrender instead, we will be allowing them access to if not modern weapons, more advanced ones then they have now. We will also be providing them with what they need even more, millions of competent technicians.
On the other side of the world, India, Japan and S. Korea are more then capable of taking apart the paper dragon of China.
“he’s not even a Herman Cain who can walk into a pizza joint and personally straighten out the operation.”
As I recall, Romney straightened out the Olympics pretty well, a task that was arguably more complex than turning around a pizza firm. He is also credited with straightening out Bain consulting.
G/52—
”MX?
Muns?
BOS?
C2?”
What does that mean?
SR @ 54: As I recall, Romney straightened out the Olympics pretty well, a task that was arguably more complex than turning around a pizza firm. He is also credited with straightening out Bain consulting.
You ever work in or around these consulting environments?
I tend to take a very jaundiced view of even the most successful of these. I may be being unfair to Mitt, though I doubt it. What I do not know about Mitt are just two things: (1) Did either Bain Capital or Bain Consulting ever really do anything useful? and (2) If they did, did Mitt ever really have anything to do with it, other than have nice hair and a famous name?
I like to think I can read a person’s role and value from a few words and interactions, and I just don’t see Mitt as the substantial force behind any of these kinds of operations.
(which is not to disparage the role I assume he did/does play, it is not even trivial to be the guy with nice hair and a famous name and be a part of the rainmaking function and the “general management”, and in fact may be not a bad model at all for just what a POTUS ought to be, … and yet, personally, I like a guy who HAS been hands-on, and might even do it again if he had to)
Apparently Bain Consulting is highly rated. Back in the day I used to see and hear about the big consultants all the time, both at work and in the press. These days – where have they all gone? Guess they’re still out there somewhere, but they are much lower profile, and I personally seldom hear their names, no doubt my loss.
Actually, … hmm, clicking around the Bain Consulting website, I wonder if I should have my least ill-fitting suit dry-cleaned and go see what it’s like in their local office. Like I said, been a while since I’ve been around that much myself, thought it had gone obsolete about the time of disco.
The welfare recipients and states or if you will socialist states will perish. The 40+ % in the US, Greece, others will be up for sale. We cannot carry everybody as it defies gravity and reality. They will be up for sale shortly to the highest bidder. Strategic positioning like ocean front property for military purposes and shipping may not save Greece completely but will sustain it.
Silver Lining? Our Federal and States Departments of Education are a joke. We send kids to college, provide student loans and grants without stipulation that they get functional degrees. At the same time your state, my state and the fed pump money for worthless degrees we deny funds to high schools for vocational-technical training that can give a kid functionality and the ability to survive and succeed. We need engineers, machinists, welders, plumbers, electricians, medical, agriculture, mining, carpenters, mechanics… and instead we get Liberal Arts. Children are any nations only TRUE Natural Resource and we do them the greatest disservice. As parents we in this country are cowards and will not tell the hard truth to our kids then teach them them the hard skills they need and mentor them at home in survival skills. Yes political, technical, financial and tactical survival. Our government and our society have failed and ripped out the silver lining by advocating borrowing and credit as the way to salvation rather than through strength in self sufficiency and pride of real achievement. What happened to civics and government. Kids have no idea how the government works as compared to how it is supposed to work (what are the Federalist Papers again?) “Who is John Gault” ? Wow. That book was required reading when I was in school. So was Animal Farm.