Leviathan and Obama’s Win
The only thing I can say good about tonight is I am going to keep selling a lot of copies my book Injustice. But I’d gladly trade having a New York Times bestseller for a president who respects the Rule of Law.
One wonders how Romney lost this election. Unemployment and gas prices were up. Respect for American power was down. There are probably many plays which should have been called differently, but others will sort that out.
So what happens next? The Founders gave us a Constitutional architecture which was designed to delay the arrival of demagogues. And make no mistake about it, Obama is a demagogue. He has totalitarian tendencies which manifest over and over and over again. Whether attacking religious liberty, or secured Chrysler bondholders, this man comes from a worldview distinctly un-American.
Thankfully the Constitution still is operative. Some of the liberties the Founders secured are still ours to treasure. The press remains free. We can still assemble. And I suspect after tonight, gun ownership will substantially increase.
But another part of our Constitutional architecture provides solace tonight – the 10th Amendment. Sure, we’ve heard the 10th thrown about for years. But tonight it ripened. Whatever powers aren’t given to the federal government, it doesn’t have. And the states are empowered to push back against federal power.
“A Republic, madam, if you can keep it.”
We now know the expiration date on that statement.
It is today.
We have just committed national suicide.
Similar sentiments are resounding ALL over Israel, from each quarter I am tuning into.
While this is first, and foremost, a disaster for America, it is in no small measure a western disaster, and in particular, an Israeli one.
http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/11/07/the-day-liberty-died-the-west-truly-hangs-in-the-balance-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
Nevertheless, there is always a silver lining…with the election over, Israel is now unshackled. It is do or die re Iran. That’s the scuttlebutt…
Have you Zionazis disappeared every last Muslim on the West Bank and Gaza strip into ovens and showers, and you now want to slaughter as many Muslims globally before Obama tries to stop you, which he might not because you don’t get to be POTUS without licking the anus of AIPAC. Your state is a nuclear-armed Nazi Germany. The Palestinians, not the Zionazis, are the true heirs of the Holocaust!
It’s such a shame too. Your country is the land of the Kibbutzim. Your people, victim’s of Hitler’s corporate genocide had many compassionate values. It seems you have chosen in recent years to side with the genocidal forces of American corporate-based imperialism and greed. If you embraced the values of the Kibbutzim once again, Jews and Muslims would live together in peace.
A good doctor might be able to help you. Throbbin can be cured.
Suddenly emboldened by an Obama win eh!??? Geez … it’s already started! That’s just anti-Semitic and anti-American hatred and divisiveness. Nobody is charmed by your fearful and deceptive threats. Israel and the U.S.A. have an enemy; and it has found a host … and that host is Islam, who’s young people are crying out to the rest of the world to save them from “Allah”, since all he seems to do is steal their hope and kill them; I for one … choose life; I choose Israel and the U.S.A.
Good grief, if you must troll the thread, at least pretend to plausibility.
No disrespect to you sir, but the amount of disdain and hostility that seemingly comes through in your message somewhat negates your argument.
The support of the nation of Israel has nothing to do with the disappearing, killing, slaughtering of Muslims. It is a sad thing that this is how a person may perceive the ideals of “Zionists.”
“If you embraced the values of the Kibbutzim once again, Jews and Muslims would live together in peace.”
There you have it, folks, full blown delusion.
Well, it certainly didn’t take long for the fascist Jew-haters to come out now that their Great Leader got back in.
Throbbin, your alter ego, cynical wonder, awaits you to cook up some more anti-semitic claptrap- if you need a partner in crime.
But guess what? This Israeli doesn’t scare, and she doesn’t give a rat’s behind about the likes of the real neo-nazis…you get my drift.
And if you are hallucinating, thinking that most Jews in Israel are akin to their(mostly) leftist brothers in the U.S., you are smoking crack. My Zionist brothers will spit you out…if you dare face them!
Tough…doesn’t begin to describe them!
Why do you back the Islamists?
Just in case anyone will assume silence means assent, the only “showers” are the ones in the new sports city being built in “concentration camp” Gaza with Qatar money:
http://www.israellycool.com/2012/11/02/concentration-camp-gaza-to-get-sports-city/
This is the only genocide in history where the population INCREASES.
Wow. While I would usually suggest that people that spew such typically Leftist, anti-semetic and anti-American hogwash as you do live in a dreamland, you clearly inhabit a nightmare. Get help!
Why don’t you ask the Jews in Libya, Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Afghanistan how they live peacefully with their Moslem brothers? Oh wait, there ARE NO JEWS LEFT there to ask. Sorry, continue on with your fatwa against the Neo-Nazi Israelis……
Peace of the grave?
“One wonders how Romney lost this election.”
Simple, he brought a knife to a gun fight. Instead of restricting himself to the economy, he should have gone all out on things like Keystone (connecting the anti-OIL effort to pump prices), Solyndra. Holder and DOJ, (make corruption an issue and connect it to the economy). Hammered Bronco on his invisible past (College transcripts, birth certificate, etc.).
Instead him and his advisors decided to take the high road and go large.
Only a fool would expect that to work in a nation that worships reality shows.
The real screw-up was not taking the Senate. That opportunity was squandered by the RNC when it decided to shoot for the moon by taking the White House AND the Senate.
Rince’nwear needs to go.
Maybe the GOP can get Mr. Steele back. Like all men he is flawed but he did deliver a win.
Politics is a full contact sport. If you are not willing to get down and dirty, don’t run. Any other (R) candidate would have won. Newt would have destroyed Bronco Obama.
Anybody else notice the tea party was MIA? Don’t blame them. The choice was a far left president vs a near left candidate. Why should a conservative vote for either?
Now is the time to start thinking about 2014. The goal there should be to try for parity in the Senate. The best way to do that is by sending LL3 money and offering to help in the primaries;
http://www.alliance4selfgovernance.org/primary-pledge/
Bronco is going to demand that the House surrender. Contact your rep and send them this;
A compromise between water and sewage is still sewage.
Indeed.
Dear Mr. Prime Minister Netanyahu,
It is apparent that the “majority,” of U.S. voters will not help you. For my part in this nation, I am sorry, but it is now incumbent upon you to protect the Israelis without the help of the U.S. government. That group has abandoned you, so: please, for your own sake, destroy Iran and all Arab nations that would oppose Israel before it is too late. My “countrymen,” have deserted you, and individually, we are not able to help.
God be with you, I am ashamed that my people are not.
Amayn. Do what you need to do, Bibi. Real Americans will do what we can to help–or at least to minimize the hindrance. (I’m looking at you, Speaker Boehner.)
One wonders how Romney lost this election?
No one who was paying attention wonders that. There have been plenty of people trying to tell folks that Romney was an incredibly WEAK and ineffectual candidate. During the primary, his biggest argument for getting the nomination was that he was inevitable. And his biggest argument for the general election was similar with “at least I’m not Obama.”
So Romney had some event planning experience in Salt Lake City — BFD. And he was governor for one term — BFD. And he ran a business — BFD.
That’s it. That and a Dukaksisesque campaign of “competence, not ideology.” A campaign devoid of any sense of urgency, insisting that there was “no need to set our hair on fire” getting worked up about anything, repeatedly telling folks that Obama was a nice guy (but in over his head) and that we are in a recovery (even if it is weak).
Romney was a walking disaster from Day One. A gross combination of Dole, McCain, Gore, and Kerry — a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign. A campaign full of elite arrogance to be sure, but a disasterous establishment campaign.
This is no surprise.
Gee, we were all waiting for you to run, but you chickened out.
We can agree that Mitt was a weak candidate, Ronald Reagan would have lost this time. We expected Obama to have a weaker ground game this time, but it was up from 2008.
We must face the fact that it wasn’t that people were fooled by Obama in 2008. They know who he is and like his policies. America has changed. That change is continuing. We have to face the new reality.
We do have 30 republican governors now. Don’t know if they can win the 10th amendment fight. Now we will see how long Obama can blame his inheritance.
It’s bread and circuses–or sodomy and infanticide. Hegel might have been correct when he argued that ordered liberty was God’s Providence on Earth, but he failed when he proclaimed that history–the effect of the choices people make when they are become aware of their freedom–will perfect this providence.
The recent election has taught us instead that, give the plebs an opportunity to indulge their appetites without care for the consequences, feed the indolent at the expense of the industrious, and let the voluptuous, without ethical consideration, ejaculate into anything that even vaguely resembles the orifice of reproduction (all the while demonizing anybody who might suggest the unsalbriousness), and they each and every will make great haste to accomplish the supersession of democracy into that fetid tyranny that feeds them lotus blossoms while it stifles all energy but that of demonic variety that has mastered the game of pay to play.
It’s called fascism, folks. In Rome, as another commentator, quoting Marcus Tullius Cicero, pointed out, it impelled the plebs to sustain the tyrant Caesar–until the patriot Brutus rose up. May today’s tyrant profit from the lesson.
I regret the misspellings. This is not the first time that I have thought that Pajamas would profit by allowing commentators a method for post-posting editing. I believe that The Volokh Conspiracy has–or at least at one time had–such a function.
Actually, you nailed it, he was a Republican Dukakis
Newt probably would have lost too; but–oh God!–the debates would have been marvelous to behold.
If the republic must succumb, better it should die in glory than wither away in timidity.
You are correct that viewing the debates would have been a sight to behold
and I have to differ with you in your assessment. Newt Gingrich is perhaps
the smartest, politically advanced member in both partys, if you follow. There
is not any of the 535 congressionals nor the members of the Supreme Court that
maintain the wherewithal to thoroughly comprehend the mentality of the
Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians, and the North Koreans (the Axis-of-Evil),
and in Reaganesk respect, not cater to the rogues on this planet. Newt would
not have played the cautious game that Romney played. After over 30 years
experience in Washington, D.C., Newt knows where all the skeletons lie and he
therefore is not one that shuns a good political fight. Newt may be many
things, but one thing is for certain, he is a patriotic, knowledgeable,
American citizen, proud of his heritage, while the Moron that currently
resides in the White House, with his ugly, fat, whining, and unappreciative
wife,is not. Where Romney failed, Newt would have questioned this Muslim
Moron concerning “FAST AND FURIOUS,” and why he covered for Eric Holder, his
Attorney General, and now this caper with “BENGHAZI,” that this Moron has
lied continuously, compounding the evidence against both Holder and the Moron,
if you follow. Then, we Americans have to put up with the Communist, David
Axelrod whom reminds me greatly of Adolf Hitler; Valerie Jarrett whom advises
the Moron (how does she maintain any political authority in the White House,
let alone that the Moron does not fart unless Jarrett approves it; what is her
title and from what source does she exert authority over the Moron?); then
there is the Hillary Clinton’s private secretary, Huma Abedin whose family
are still followers of “THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.” I mention these other
that Newt would not have been reluctant to confront this Moron. When the
American public observed that Newt is not a timid Romney, but a fighter equal
to our colonial Founding Fathers, New Gingrich would have been our new
President. But because of his personal baggage, the RNC discarded the only
worthy member capable of ridding our country of this closet, non-American
Muslim usurper. For the second time, this Moron was not vetted. Why not?
I’m sure that Newt would have included this as part of his attack on “DEAR
LEADER.” Americans hate anyone whom appears to be non-American in their
polical views, as we in the United States are known for our gracious acts of
benevelence to the entire globe, and anyone or anything that interferes with
that reputation is deemed un-American, but for some unknown reason George Soros
and his group of Bildeberger bandits have used their wealth to corrupt the
citizens of the United States with their promises to continue the Welfare
State and have been received wholeheartedly by the visions imparted by
America’s “MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE,” if you follow. No longer is the memory of
JFK’s famous words, “ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT CAN
YOU DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY,” is now just a memory, if that. “POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS” and “COMMUNISM” has supplanted common sense.
I worry about this miselection of BHO: (1) he will have zero motivation to work with GOP on anything, so they should expect the long knives now and the unleashing of the regulatory Kraken; (2) health care takeover, already rammed through; (2) Israel gets it in the neck, or at least the mullahs attempt it, leading to general war in Mideast, possibly nuclear war.
Lots of worries.
… and, as he promised Putin, he will be “more flexible” in a second term since he can now evade the electoral wrath of the American people.
“May God forgive them: They know not want they do.”
“May God forgive them: They know not want they do.”
Actually, they do know what they do. That’s the essence of what Rand characterized as “pure, naked, smirking evil.” In so doing, they have removed themselves from any consideration of mercy or compassion.
It was goos, but now …it’s gone.
The constitution means what the supreme court says it means. And the supreme court will say anything.
And Obama will get to appoint a few more Justices and get them confirmed by the Democratic Senate.
Filibuster option is still on the table, though I’m not sure with collaborators like McCain and Graham it can be made to stick. Gang of X could sink our chances of obstructing the Senate, which combined with control of the House is the only way to twist Obama’s arm. Of course, Boehner has shown himself to be a mealy-mouthed buffoon that can’t be relied upon when the chips are down. With friends like these, who needs Obama? We are beset on all sides by ruthless enemies and fair-weather friends; if there is any solace in all of this it is that it will exacerbate the unsustainable debt crisis and perhaps end it sooner. The nice thing about an unsustainable circumstance is that by its very nature it cannot continue in perpetuity. The bleeding will stop sooner or later, but will it be because we’ve run out of blood?
Hopefully the remaining conservative justices on the court will decide to retain their positions for another four years and Roberts fixes his cranial-rectal inversion. It’s entirely possible that the ‘moderate’ on the court can be roused to defend the Constitution and it seems that Kennedy is increasingly our man despite Roberts’ defections.
With or without the court as an ally Obama will ceaselessly expand the government through the bureaucracy and the cooperation of the Congress when he can dupe them into it. If there’s anything the Republicans have shown in recent years it is that they can be led by the carrot and stick to make unfavorable compromises even under majority conditions. Hopefully they will be a cohesive force of resistance.
At any rate, when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that have connected them with another…
Exactly.
The Roberts Obamacare decision demonstrated that first and foremost, the Supreme Court is one third of the Federal Government. We truly are deluded if we think anyone so ensconced in such power would do anything to diminish that power.
No branch can be trusted to reduce the Federal government’s power in favor of the states or the people.
It appears bankruptcy alone will dent this juggernaut.
Don’t expect anyone in government to reverse the growth of big government. It is in both parties interest to grow government. Do not believe for a second that the political parties are working for the people’s best interests, they are working for their own best interests, and that means ever bigger government.
This Moronic POTUS has been practicing the policies of Frances Fox Piven &
Richard Cloward, a husband and wife team, that have been preaching that the
quickest method to destroy a country, is to overburden Her financial systems.
And in addition, this Moron has also been practicing the policies outlined
by a fellow Communist, Saul Alinsky, in his book, “RULES FOR RADICALS.” You
see, this Moron maintains no ideas of his own. A good example of this
statement is this Moron is continuing the policies commenced by his father to
rid the world of colonialism and rid the planet of imperialists, whom the
Moron considers the United States as the largest offender. In addition, with
the assistance of George Soros and his ilk, this Moron plans to destroy the
United States’ economy and capitalism as we know it. With a failing economy,
a failing employment record, a failing foreign diplomacy, and an utter
disregard for Israel, because he himself is a Muslim. All Muslims have been
taught to hate the Jews, therefore, this Moron cannot change his spots.
And if that is true, how many more straws before a critical mass of states say, “enough!” One thing Washington seems to have forgotten is that the states created the federal government and the states can change it any time they wish – with nobody in DC being able to do anything about it.
Batten down the hatches hell is on the way, but there will be some wonderful shorting opportunities.
that’s the same thing you guys said in 2008.
And it happened, recovery far, far slower than it should be. Out of control EPA, NLRB. Obamacare boondoggle, Benghazi, $800+ Billion blown away for special interests. Rule of law, bankruptcy laws circumvented with GM, $38 Billion probably never recovered, PLUS no taxes collected for years, plus other subsidies. Chrysler bailed out then sold to Fiat (and they ARE starting up the Jeep plant in China, which means NOT exported from US!). Freedom of religion defiled with mandates.
And this without even talking about his imperious tone, lazy schedule, his refusal to work with the Congress OR the Senate.
I think you’ve hinted at exactly the next move for liberty–not secession, but nullification. Obama has promulgated regulations beyond the legitimate scope of executive power in three areas: energy/environment, immigration, and healthcare. There are deep red states that will dispute the legitimacy of these regulations that usurp the legislative branch and state power, and which will refuse to comply.
And which will be stomped on by our national (no longer federal) government with the full blessings of the Supreme Court. The states could not prevent the DEA from closing medical marijuana clinics. The states could not arrest illegal immigrants unless given the OK by ICE. What do you think will happen when states refuse to establish ObamaCare-mandated insurance centers? They will be forced to do so, and a state that doesn’t play-along will lose all federal funds. If that doesn’t get compliance, then more extreme measures will follow.
Expecting states to fight for their sovereignty is a pipe-dream.
Fight? No, Texas and similar states will not fight. I expect we will bide our time, survive the inevitable breakdown of federal power due to economic issues, and then quietly pick up the pieces. The end result could be an increase in state sovereignty.
Or not – I’m not optimistic about the demographics anymore.
Many would say why is that slave walking around free. What the heck are women doing voting- are you crazy. And how can you allow all these low class unpropertied uneducated people vote?
Totally disagree with you. You give no respect to their deep abiding care for the dignity of individual rights. All of those evolutions you treasure flowed from their philosophy of individual dignity that they for the first time in human history built a nation around.
Your magical narrative of the development of social justice in America is just fascinating. Thank goodness the federal government had nothing to do with all that. They would have just ruined everything!
Actually it wasn’t their philosophy- it flowed from Old Europe, mostly France and GB. And asking what the “Founders” would think is to my mind silly and wholly inaccurate. With the exception of, eventually, breaking free from GB, they were not in any way shape or form united in their thinking about almost any matter. Hamilton wanted a Monarchy. TJ wanted a sleepy agrarian republic (that would have done well against our enemies). The unified theory of founding fathers is a myth and a lie, as anyone who has ever studied the subject would know.
Indeed. The rivalries between many of them were bitter and entrenched to a degree that most modern Americans simply cannot conceive of.
Hamilton wasn’t after a monarchy. He simply wanted the president to be elected to serve under good behavior. It would have extended Washington’s time in office two more years, seeing that he died in 1799. It would have been similar to the elections of the Doge of Venice, which, by the way, was the longest-surviving republic on the face of the earth (600AD-1790AD). Hamilton never attributed the idea, but probably got it reading James Harrington.
“I wonder what the Founders would say to us tonight if they could. Their guidance lives on in the Constitution that they gave us.”
Part of that guidance was **not** to give the vote to people who don’t own property — lack of property is a good sign of personal irresponsibility. Oh, and they would condemn the federal reserve system root and branch, saying that money should be backed by gold. All in all, they would say we’re getting what we deserve, having changed their republic into a universal-suffrage democracy. They’d ask, in our quest for universal suffrage, why we haven’t yet given the vote to children. Then, they’d look around at the childishness of our popular culture, making tons of money off nominal adults, and say “Never mind, I see you already have.”
good point about ownership and voting, and the main cause of disaster in this country. Cities full of people who do not own land but dictate to most of the country who and who can not be elected.
Yes, the founders knew what they were doing when they gave the vote only to land owners. When we ignored their wisdom, America was lost. It just took some time for Plato to be proven right.
If you love liberty, it’s time to make other plans. America will not come back from this. We’ve gone over the cliff. We just haven’t looked down yet.
And go where in search of the liberty we have lost and will continue to lose? There is nowhere else to go.
There are many smart women out there; I contributed to some of their campaigns. But the demographic as a whole is profoundly stupid. The Constitution, The Declaaration of Independence, and The Bill of Rights could not have been written if the women’s vote had had a say in it.
That largest of demographics is always going to be seduced by the biggest liar, the biggest fraud, and or the one with the most sex appeal. There is a surfeit of empirical and anecdotal evidence to prove it, but the boxed mind can’t acknowledge the proof.
The nation is doomed. Seccession is something worth considering. I would rather my state not have political bands to some of the others.
How does the Declaration of Independence begin?
“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation”
Of course our causes may vary some. Personally, I don’t want to be ruled by the California coven of Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Waters. I despise Harry Reid and Obama. Nor do I want my state to be saddled with California and Illinois’ debt. And we as a nation will never be rid of them.
So finally with the re-election of the USURPER we can positively state without any fear of contradiction whatsoever that the MAJORITY of American voters are MORONS.
Yes, morons. The result of being dumbed down by the left wing teachers unions for the past 30 years. I hope I’m wrong thinking this was the last chance to get back to reality. As a Canadian I’ve always admired America. I don’t think it will be the same with Amerika.
That would be more like 40 or 50 years. How the time flies when we are having fun, eh?
It will be Greece
It will be Sarajevo.
So then, would you the American people are too stupid to deserve democracy?
No, they deserve what they get. But I don’t deserve them.
Stupid is incapable of learning, so no. But it seems America keeps tripping over itself trying to say and do the right thing. Obama’s excuses for his failures have been nothing compared to those of the media and popular culture. And let’s face it, from any objective, rational perspective his presidency is a complete and dismal failure from any perspective and in every arena and he squeaks through.
Now you’ve re-elected this petulant, narcissistic, phony, disingenuous, racist liar of a mere affirmative-action community organizer to masquerade as leader of the soon-to-be-less Free World on behalf of President Valerie Jarrett
As I said – Amerika
“too stupid to deserve democracy”? Hardly. But given the path our nation has taken the past 100 years, the electorate is too stupid to deserve the Constitutional Republic that we were created to be. Democracy is where it has led us. I would change your line that the majority is “too stupid *thus* deserve democracy.”
We are not a Democracy, we are a Republic, or at least we were.
A very small majority, but yes, morons.
Now you know how we felt in 2004, turnabout is fare play. I was sick for days when Bush was re-elected. I just knew Obama would win no matter what the polls were saying, just to pay you guys back for 2004.
Well, that’s it in a nutshell. Payback over common sense. Welcome to Amerika – one gigantic organized community.
The Founders would be shaking their heads and saying, “WE TOLD you, dammit!
It appears the Constitution really is just a piece of paper after all. There is no need to look for protection there.
The people have given their consent. They’ll now get what they think they want.
C’est la vie.
As one who predicted 300 plus EV for Romney, I’m sitting here and chewing on some of those words. Having done some serious volunteering this election, this is a bitter pill and was not for the lack of trying.
But now I’m truly concerned for the future of our kids and grand-kids and I fear we’re entering totally unchartered waters… as a family and as a nation.
God help us all.
It’s readily apparent that dark times are upon us. We don’t know what to do when our brothers appear to be choosing a socialist suicide.
But I have kids to feed and give a future to. What can I do? Give up?
A story comes to mind.
2 Kings 6
14 Therefore sent he thither horses, and chariots, and a great host: and they came by night, and compassed the city about.
15 And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do?
16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.
17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
We have some very dark times coming. I don’t know everything we should do. But this I do know: if we want our kids to have a future, we’re going to have to fight for it. All I can think of is this:
2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you…
It’s time for many of us to vote with our feet. I was lucky. I got out of California when I was just starting out. I ended up in a red state and I have a job.
What I won’t touch:
Student loans
Useless education
States that demand to teach my kids what is right and wrong
Welfare
Food stamps
What I’m going to work on:
Improving my trade skills. The trades are always in demand in hard times (and they’re coming).
Getting out of debt.
Getting what family I can out of the blue states.
Being charitable to those around me.
Prayer
Scripture study
Feeling the love of God and Jesus Christ, and trusting in them.
Becoming more like Job. Job 13:15 “Though He slay me, I will hope in Him.”
Dark days are ahead. But I am a husband, a father, a Soldier, and I hope to say I am a disciple of Christ. I will follow Him and teach my children to do so. Apparently there are those among us who will mock us for doing so. I will come out from among them, and let the Lord either convert them or let them reap what they sow.
I am disappointed in my fellow Americans. But what can I do? Give up? I will live as freely as I can in a free state. I will not touch the unclean leftist doctrines. And I will continue to have hope that, if there are dark times, and they are in my day, perhaps my children will know peace.
Have faith in God, especially when we’ve lost our faith in many of our fellow men.
The sun will rise tomorrow.
Your families will need you tomorrow.
Come out from among those who choose suicide.
God bless us all. God will clear our path before us if we don’t abandon him and give in to those who ridicule the faithful.
Great post! I agree with you 100%!
Thank you for an honorable post. At least you are not preaching sedition–as do far too many people who post at PJM. Let’s call that what it is: sedition porn. The real tragedy is that sort of talk will lead in a straight line to the brutal stupidities of Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Oklahoma City (at least now, thank God, without Gore Vidal—-that miserable old nazi–around to call Tim McVeigh a ‘noble boy.’)
Well said, Sir!!
I’m Catholic and a devoted believer. I appreciate your faith and the verses you presented. However, the HHS mandate that Obama and Sebelius are trying to ram down our throats is only the first assault on religious freedom in the U.S. I won’t be surprised when, four or five years from now, the Bible becomes a banned book, and we will be forced to worship in secrecy.
Who said tonight’s accrual of power was valid? I want to see all the votes counted.
Agree! To misread a coupla million ballots in critical locales takes only a little fidgeting.
A small change to the s/w designed to disappear on Nov 7.
You are right, but it is too late to do anything about it. The Republicans have tried to pass voter verification laws such as IDs at the polling places, and they have been taken to court on every one of them. Sometimes State level judges rule in their favor and when they do, the Justice Department files discrimination suits to block implementation. The fix is already in on elections and we can’t do anything to stop them. We are witnessing the acceleration of the fall of the greatest nation the world has ever known. I fear it will be several generations before enough courage is found to create another land of liberty and opportunity. No more shining lights up on the hill for a long time. Here comes another dark age of political impotence for the regular folks. The bah-bah-bahs that we hear are the sounds of the contented sheep on the way to their own slaughter.
Don’t you worry your little head, Jim. All will be right in due time. When the baby boomers can’t think for themselves anymore, this land will be sane again so time is of the essence. Just be patient, time is on our side, not theirs.
These remarks are essentially treasonous, you have gone way too far dowm the wrong road, and you should expect a visit from your good buddies, OʻBummerʻs jackbooted thugs in the FBI.
Obama will nominate 2 possibly 3 supreme judges, not counting the lower ones. There is no bright spot.
To think, Obama was first sold as a constitutional scholar/professor. Let the redistribution begin.
Remember, when the last worthless dollar is pilvered away, you didn’t build that.
We have just lost the most important election in our lifetimes. For conservatives, it is time to think big thoughts, make big plans, and take big actions. Stat! Secession, nullification, and war fall into these categories.
Yes. It is time. We must divide or we will all be destroyed by the evil that is among us. Those of us intelligent enough to see the end is coming need to prepare for it.
Oh, how sweet it is. I’m not thrilled with Obama, but I’m happy to see all the disappointment here in the lunatic fringe.
The lunatics are running the asylum. Us fringe types are the sane ones…
BTW, there is no such thing as a rational libera.
It was the LUNATIC FRINGE that re-elected the USURPER the problem for America is that the ‘Lunatic Fringe’ is now a MAJORITY.
Only a fool aspires to dance on his own grave. Enjoy yourself.
Why? For my fun I will piss in the big public trough where you bury your head.
16 trillion, and we are the irrational fringe.
So you voted for revenge, yes? Do you know what a trillion is?
On your head, buddy.
The Lunatics have finally taken over the asylum. The first election of the Unqualified USURPER could be put down to an aberration however this second election and the margin of it just confirms my worst imaginings those are America has finally gone the way of Socialist Europe and their electorate is now just as moronic as those in Europe have been for decades .
If it can’t continue, it won’t. Nothing Obama has done is, in that favorite word of the left, sustainable.
Fools like yourself are amusing. You fail to appreciate that when your progressive pals finish their generations-long job of pulling down the house that was the American Republic, the walls will fall on you and yours as well.
A hard lesson for the historically and economically illiterate. A lesson that for many will not be survivable.
I am surrounded by masses who are alien in their ideas about the world, who gladly trade themselves to their rulers for a bit of the crumbs. Revolting.
I agree. Yet they keep voting Republican.
Zing! oh, ho, ho, that was an unexpected turnabout. Wise Liberal you must be.
But you, Tom, have unwittingly just encapsulized why Obama won. Because Liberals have reality one hundred and eighty degrees out of phase.
Well thank god(obama) for the free birth control and abortions, I wouldn’t inflict the world to come on a child if you paid me.
Yes, morons. The result of being dumbed down by the left wing teachers unions for the past 30 years. I hope I’m wrong thinking this was the last chance to get back to reality. As a Canadian I’ve always admired America. I don’t think it will be the same with Amerika.
I’m an American married to a Canadian and we live in Ontario. I voted for Romney to stop the socialist/marxist takeover of America. With the re-election of Obama, the road to serfdom will accelerate. But Canada will not go unscathed. If the U.S. economy collapses, Canada will suffer greatly.
Most Canadians think Obama is a swell guy. They will have their eyes pried open during the next four years.
By the way, BornToRun, if you haven’t checked out Sun News, Canada’s conservative network, please do. There are some sane Canadians with clear vision.
I am absolute in my guess that the Founders would definitely say that tonight truth prevailed over lies, moderatism prevailed over radicalism, and honesty prevailed over deceit. America has spoke and has spoken with a loud voice. There is no place for the latter in America and as long as the Republican Party, which I once belong to proudly, accepts this radicalism that is the Tea Party, the brand will fall.
Rob,
When the takers rise to the top of society, there will be no food left for anyone. The tragedy of the commons. When everyone has access to grow their garden in the town commons, no one puts any effort into upkeep and everyone helps themselves to the carrots. We’ll be wondering why there’s no carrots in a few years. May God have mercy on America.
CS Johns,
This president has not expanded on the welfare or entitlement programs in his first term but I do commend you and everybody else in the far right for your diligence in pushing these false narratives. Whether you believe me or not, this is the main reason why the Republican brand will continue shrinking. Keep the Tea Party narrative alive while I join my new party in celebration. This was the best feeling in my whole entire life to vote Democrat for the first time. I have transcended above the radicalism of a dying party.
You were never a Republican.
And I wish I never was, Mike. I wake up each morning to a much brighter day now.
Not only not a Republican, one wonders if you’re, like someone else we could mention, not really an American.
Jack,
Keep pushing this narrative that President Obama is not American, not one of us, or not Christian while the rest of us in America continue to live in reality. Making this continuous narrative will not stop him from being president of the United States. Let go of the divisive narrative that is evident of the fall of the Republican Party. Can you imagine how many more Republicans like myself had defected this party in this election? Integrity in a party matters and tonight was revelation. America spoke loudly that the Tea Party is NOT our future.
Would you care to explain those “radical” TEA party views? Is it their demand for a balanced budget? Their belief that innocent human life should not be aborted, while believing that convicted murderers should be executed? Or, that there should be moral standards for public behavior? What about wanting illegal aliens deported, since they violated our laws to get here? I don’t see anything “radical” about any of those beliefs. In fact, I would argue that anyone who DOESN’T believe in these things is the “radical” person.
Snuss,
I never said that all of their views are wrong. I totally agree with the fiscal view of financial responsibility but when you couple that with the additional divisive narrative that the president is not American, not one of us, or not a Christian, all you have accomplished is to completely muddled your message and discredited your movement. Asking the first black president to prove his American birthright and Christian belief does not help your movement’s cause in any way, shape, or form. Yet you were so willing to vote for a Mormon president, a faith that Christianity completely abhor. All it manages to do is to completely destroy your cause. So in my view, the Tea Party movement will fall and as long as the Republican Party bends to their will, so shall the Republican Party fall. This is a movement that just formed only 3 years ago and for the Republican Party to bow down at their feet is preposterous and very degrading of a longstanding party.
Rob,
As you say, America has spoke and spoken in a loud voice. As I post this, according to Druge, R 47,453,661
O 47,282,944. In the electorial college the democrats have a comanding lead, but in the popular vote I certainly don’t see a mandate for socialism.
Sorry to dampen your night yet again but here are the current numbers on the popular vote –
Obama – 56,339,370 and still counting
Romney – 54,863,392 and still counting
Difference – Obama +1,475,978
That means only a few more than 700,000 votes needed to be misread.
There was no mandate for socialism in 2008, either. That didn’t stop Obama then and it sure won’t stop him now.
Hate to break it to you Rob but this was not a mandate election. A mandate pushes into the 60% territory and beyond. We’re sitting on a 50-51% popular vote contest.
Whatever side of the fence you’re on this is a sharply divided country that has to reconcile or be forced to reconcile, and America, through her indecisiveness, has chosen to be forced into action by our debt.
I wonder if you will wake up to brighter mornings when the Feds lose their ability to control interest rates.
Being a Republican previously allows me to clearly see the hypocrisy of this party. You have a party that is so concerned about debt yet is willing to support a 20% across the board tax cut for the entire country in the worst economic time since the Great Depression. You also have a party that is so concerned about minimizing the size of government and making sure that government stays out of our everyday lives yet want to control women’s rights on the decisions of their reproductive systems and want to control the definition of marriage in this country. America also sees this hypocrisy clearly now and the Republican brand will fall.
Funny thing; the three times there was a massive cut in taxes the domestic economy exploded with prosperity. Prosperity that lasted until the Dems decided that they couldn’t stand it anymore and monkey wrenched the economy.
Anona,
Was 2 out of those 3 times during George “Dupe-ya” Bush’s 2 terms? Oh yeah, we were in a great economic time during Bush’s 2 terms, weren’t we? 8 years of tax cuts with 2 unpaid wars and a unpaid prescription drug legislation, we are in great times now because of that, aren’t we? This was the first time ever in history where tax cuts were not only implemented during wartime but during 2 simultaneous wars. The other thing that I never understood about the Republican Party is this – did anyone in this party pass at Math? I left this party because I also love Math.
What are you smoking? It’s apparent that you know nothing of the founding principles of America and that you know nothing about the Tea Party. The three basic tenets of the Tea Party are limited government, fiscal responsibility, and governance according to the Constitution. These tenets, by the way, are exactly the same ones our founding fathers embraced and promoted.
So you’re actually saying that the founders were wrong.
Geez, the ignorance in your comment is breathtaking.
Please read my reply above to snuss and TheDougem. You only deserve this much of an answer since you apparently do not read all of my replies but only want to shoot the breeze.
“……I wonder how much more freedom Americans will be willing to surrender.”
Apparently, Mr. Adams, for a majority of Americans the answer is all of it. California will be the model of failure in every regard for this once great nation. And that’s only on the domestic scene. It has been said that the greatest threat to our national security is our domestic financial weakness which will very soon be in a state of collapse. Meanwhile, Iran will have nukes. We are headed for very dark days. The 10th amendment won’t be of much help. The 2nd, maybe.
I am a conservative voter and I have watched 2 elections in the US lost by GOP candidates. I am sure it hurts for you in the US of A right now but after anger/grief etc please look in the mirror and honestly assess why you lost to the worst President by any standard for 100 years or more.
Was it organisational, was it your message or was it your candidate? Fine men as they undoubtedly are neither McCain or Romney was ever going to convince the middle. Bush, for all of his faults had a connection with the middle. Yes the msn hated him, literally hated him for it, but he had it and it got him elected.
Maybe its time to get off the ideological high horse and seek electable candidates?
I don’t think you understand. It’s entirely possible we’ve finally evolved an electorate that will no longer vote for anyone except Democrats, and that blindly.
I strongly suspect Ronald Reagan would have done no better this time around. The great March Through the Institutions worked.
While Romney is a decent and fine man i think or rather know that a firey candidate was needed. But the question begs..how or who do you select to defeat the biggest thieves and liars on the planet? Tough call…i think Newt would have fit the bill wonderfully:) I agree….how in the hell do you lose to a worthless potus like obama? Only in Amerika i guess.
How can you be a conservative, or, how can you be an American-style conservative if that is in fact what you are? Your country has a compassionate health care system that treats people when they are ill. In the United States all but the top 1% are left to die without any succor at all if they become ill? That is what conseravtives want to continue, and they fought even the modest attemts by Obama to introduce compassion into a system dominated only by greed!
You clearly don’t know enough about Australian political history. We had our socialist revolution in the 70′s. Medicare was introduced by our Labor government and then governments of both the left and right spent the next 20 years trying to hammer it into something that allowed the market to work. Its still far from perfect. Conservative in Australia means a champion of free markets. We don’t have them yet but we continue to try.
I was going to say that you are hopelessly warped if you truly believe that “in the United States all but the top 1% are left to die without any succor at all if they become ill?” But then I saw your subsequent claim that “Whatever its faults, the USSR was the only beacon of hope for thirld (sic) world people crushed under the iron heel of US corporate imperialism,” and I realized that you’re precisely the sort of idiot Communist who would rejoice in tonight’s election results.
God help us all if folks who think you now constitute a majority of this country.
Here’s the answer, Allan. As I wrote in response to another column on these pages….
One only needs to look to California to see where this nation is headed. Romney. or any candidate that the Republicans could have put up, constituted a threat to the sweet song of socialism. That’s exactly why Obama has won. His victory is simply a manifestation of what a majority of your fellow citizens wish for. A free ride at the expense of others. Utopia. Romney didn’t promise that so he lost. Sad to say we are surrounded by grifters who could care less about our founding principles about which they are totally ignorant. They want Santa Claus so they re-elected him. The miracle and beauty of the Declaration and the Constitution. Who cares? Just don’t screw with my entitlements and benefits. That describes the mentality and mindset of most of our fellow citizens (soon to willingly be subjects) so accept it. They won. The Brits have learned to live with this reality. So will we. Nothing more than a bunch of castrated Americans.
And I might add. With our days as a beacon of hope to the world as “that shining city on the hill” behind us. California, here we come!
As a conservative in California, I dread the day this state becomes ‘too big to fail’. We deserve to go bankrupt. Obama will almost certainly push for a bailout, and other blue states will follow clamoring for bailouts of their own. What the political mood will be in this country when that shoe drops, one can only guess. If that doesn’t push more Americans to snap out of their daze I don’t know what will short of a dollar collapse.
I think there are lessons to be learned from Australia for the GOP. In Australia and under our constitution we have strong State governments and an overriding Federal Government much the same as you do in the US. In at least one of our States, New South Wales, we had a Labor (Socialist/union dominated) government for nearly 20 years. During that 20 years this government learned how to stay in power despite a level of incompetence that was staggering. Their formula was simple: keep making promises, keep demonising the opposition. It worked even when the promises were made for the 3rd or 4th time. In the end the electorate worked them out and even the press lost faith. When they were finally defeated it was by a party led by a man who is plainly just an efficient bureaucrat who makes no promises and just works hard. But it took a long time to make the change and a great deal of damage was done to the State in the meantime.
At the Federal level we have a Labor government and a PM who have borrowed all the tactics of the NSW State Labor government and so far are serving them well. I could say that Obama and the Democrats are using the same playbook. Our history shows that the ordinary voter will vote for the good of the State if the opposition consistently focuses on their lack of performance. During your GOP primaries you tend to focus inwardly. Your party needs to focus for 4 whole years on being a loyal opposition and loyal means holding the blowtorch to the feet of the President.
No other choice. Civil war.
Yeah, it was so fun the first time around, and the second.
Nobody said it would be fun.
Nor would it be a case of a farce chasing a tragedy. The first secession aimed to preserve slavery; the second would strive to end it.
No small irony which party led the first seccesion.
Without America the soviet union would not have pretended to collapse nor the china man could not have stood in front of the tank (and by the way they crushed him just the same). We are on the verge of a worldwide totalitarian structure. You write about a dead piece of paper from long dead men. Get ready for the end of America friend. Your article is false hope. You should not spread that.
Let’s remember that Boehner remains the first line of defense.
What, one wonders, would the Founders have said about that?
Boehner was loaded to the gills on national TV tonight. He was an utter disgrace. Slobbering and slurring his words . He is of no use to us what so ever. It is done. It is over. On to plan B. How to salvage what is left and either GTF out of here or go under ground. I won’t rest until I join the ranks of the non contributors. I am not paying for all this shit. No how no way. How could America elect this bad man. The answer is that we are not America anymore. America is dead. We need to dry our tears and figure out where to go from there. Mitt Romney is not to blame for any of this. He gave it his all and then some.
Watching Boehner’s glowing face giving his “victory” speech was the most maddening moment of a very bad night. The man is as ripe as a Halloween pumpking on the 1st of Nov.
The Soviet Union did not collapse. It was beaten. There is a reason Ronald Reagan has streets named after him in Eastern Europe. Don’t buy into the liberal myth.
The USSR fell for a combination of reasons. Reagan was the least of them. Far more important were:
1. Losing their war in Afghanistan.
2. Mishandling Chernobyl so badly as to destroy the Communist Party’s credibility.
3. Having the leader they thought would run a tight ship for a long time (i.e. Andropov) die after only a year in office.
4. Having Pope John Paul I die after only a week in office & be succeeded by a Polish Pope who made it impossible for the USSR to crush Solidarity.
miguelj, You are right about it not being our President. But the reasons you give are trivial. The Soviets had nothing that could have ever worked on any level larger than a family clan or a small tribe. They were crushed by the big shining light up on the hill which was the last beacon of freedom. Don’t ever forget that.
Yes, it was beaten. Whatever its faults, the USSR was the only beacon of hope for thirld world people crushed under the iron heel of US corporate imperialism. The American corparchy crushed mercilessly all attempts of thirld world peoples to establish their autonomy from corporate rule. The Soviet Union was all they could look to.
The once proud, independent people of Eastern Europe who had not not a single multinational corporation on their soil have now been ground to poverty and helplessness by the corporate wrecking ball. Whatever injustices CIA tools like Lech Welsa imagined themselves to be fighting I doubt there is anybody in Eastern Europe who doesn’t dream of how things used to be.
Thank you for revealing yourself so clearly as the Marxist tool that you are.
It was a good run.
Lot of stuff gonna be breaking, the next few years.
Don’t have to do a thing, it’s all baked in now.
The problem is the population and makeup of our inner cities. They are not like us. They are the product of a long term Democrat project that has come to fruition. Take Pennsylvannia for example. The denizens of Philadelphia went 85 percent for Hugo Chave… I mean Obama. With numbers like that the rest of the state didn’t have a chance. I am going to re-read Patrick Buchannan while holed up in my fallout shelter. He said you can be accused of crying wolf too often, but the truth is the wolf came.
From CNN —
According to early exit polls, 60% of voters said the economy was the most important issue, 59% thought abortion should be legal and 50% wanted Obama’s health care reform law repealed while 43% wanted it to remain in place or be expanded.
The breakdown of voters, according to the early exit polls, was 73% white, 13% African American, 10% Latino and 3% Asian.
I’ll highlight the relevant stat for you — 59%
In other words, the economy ought to have been front and center and an easy GOP win, but… Akin (loser) and Mourdock (loser) and social conservative teabaggery in general has been outright rejected. The founders might be bemused but the white female vote is wotdunnit and the system worked correctly. There *is* and *has been* a War On Women waged by social conservatives, and they lost — again. What a surprise. Here on this site quasi-racist and class warfare waging idiots blather all day long that it’s the blacks, the hispanics, the poor, the handout seekers who sunk Romney. NO. It’s middle class white women. That’s the reality. Deal.
May they – white female voters whodunnit – bask in the hell of their own making. It’s not a literal hell, mind you – no sky fairy burn pit for the worthless and disobedient – but they’ll burn nonetheless sooner or later.
The “war on women” is a liberal talking point not a conservative position. Romney did not promise to ban birth control and abortion, it was all a smoke screen thrown up by Obama to distract people from the crappy economy and record deficits. Every time we lose an election the social liberals want to throw the social conservatives under the bus. You might be pissed at them but the reality is we will not win elections if social conservatives sit out.
The “war on women” is a liberal talking point not a conservative position.
You wish. When the republican party is forced by so-con teabaggers to use right to life nonsense as the litmus test for “real conservative” to the point that this is a plank in the national party platform, it _IS_ a de facto war on women. What you don’t like is that the liberals can nail it with an accurate enough bumper sticker slogan that works. The election was decided by white middle class women. That’s got to hurt.
If you’re not willing to stand up for my right to not provide abortion-inducing drugs to my employees, then who cares if you win or not?
If you don’t think freedom of religion matters, and you don’t believe in personal responsibility and freedom, then how are you different from a Democrat, except that you begrudge any help to the poor?
When a fiscal conservative says something dumb, conservatives yell at the media for making a big deal out of it and taking it out of context. When a social conservative does it, you yell at the social conservative and the GOP. And then you wonder why Democrats always paint the GOP as being exactly what you said, in your own words – as if the only difference between left and right wing is the dispute over whether there should be a safety net, and then everyone wonders why women don’t want to live in a world that features the worst of both left (broken families) and right (no government assistance for abandoned women, and obstacles to preventing unwanted pregnancy).
The fiscal conservative/libertarian position only works if the vulnerable (like pregnant women) are provided for somehow. That either means strong families or government handouts – one or the other is necessary.
And you’re not going to win them if you throw the social libertarians under the bus, either. Plus, Akin and Mourdock handed their seats to the Dems on a silver platter. At the very least, Republicans would have had those seats going into these next four years, but Akin and Mourdock couldn’t shut the hell up about their bizarro, weirdo, half-arsed science-y religious-y beliefs. When you run on a platform that includes overturning Roe v. Wade, you will be asked the rape question. And if you don’t have the right answer, you’re done. This is a fact. Yet those two horse’s asses just couldn’t dial down their egos and SHUT. UP. when it was their turn.
Romney lost because he was a weak candidate. I’m glad he did. Eight years of Romney? EIGHT? Obama is not going to be able to do much, and after two years, once the next campaign starts ramping up, his effectiveness is over. We can survive two years or so — and the House and Senate aren’t going to give him their loyalty this time around. They have their own arses to worry about.
So start thinking seriously about 2016. Figure out a way to get the Latino vote back. Figure out a way to not squick women the hell out with your crackhead theories about rape and pregnancy. Figure out how to appeal to young voters.
You might want to start with the break-out stars of the GOP Convention — Rubio and Martinez. Just a thought. Anyone but another creepy old white dude.
Nora,
I believe overturning Roe v Wade simply returns the policy control to the states. It would not ban abortion.
btw, dont forget to thank your mother for not exercising her right to kill you in utero.
Louie
As I sit here in Lima and contemplate the wreckage of an election that could have been won, I think back to the memories of elections past. I never had the feeling of emptiness that courses through me now. How is it possible that a combination of a hurricane, a press cover-up of criminal negligence(Benghazi) and a dumbed-down populace(with an assist from Gary Johnson)could do such harm to so many of us who love our country.
To bring us back me will need a leader with a mix of Ronald Reagan and St.Ignatius de Loyola. Who he or she is or if such a person exists only time will tell.
I’ll have more to say tomorrow on various sites, but I make a living by being right, and do not feel very good about it tonight. It’s deeply spiritual for me. I make no claim to know what God is up to, but I do study the Bible and I pretty much bet everything I have that Pres Obama would win tonight. I’ve been saying it for a couple of yrs now.
It boils down to this– We as a nation were founded on Biblical Principles, and when we abandoned them and their Author, we set ourselves up for His judgement. How could He not judge us for what we have done? 55 million baby deaths at the hands of butchers, and 20-30 million more by just taking a pill. 16 trillion in dept, and 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Start to get the picture?
How does God judge nations? He with holds Wisdom. In early 2010 I heard the phrase “We won’t know what’s in it until we pass it.” And then they went ahead and passed it! Were they all crazy? Were they all deluded? God has with held His wisdom and now we reap what we sow.
Like I said, I bet everything that we are being judged. If any one thinks that they will be safe from extremely oppressive taxes just because they only make 60,000/yr better wake up. I refuse to feed this corrupt Gov any more money. I will limit my income in such a way as to pay little or no taxes, which I have been doing since 2010, I will keep myself physically fit(You think there are not enough doctors or nurses now? just wait!)I will not hire anyone. I will be sure to have enough basics to last 1 yr on hand. I will keep to myself. I will do all I can to not draw any attention to myself.
47-51% of the nation are now so addicted to Gov. that they have no will left in them to get out. The thought never crosses their mind. What will they do when there is no more Gov. candy? I live far away from tall buildings for that very reason.
I expect The Constitution to be a memory in the not too distant future. It was not written for who we have become.
There was a time when I would have scoffed at the suggestion as hyperpartisan melodrama, but I admit the thought that this might be God’s judgement on our nation crossed my mind more than once tonight.
Those who have turned their backs on the spiritual underpinnings of our civilization claim to live by reason, so how do they rationalize re-electing a government that has put us 16,000,000,000,000 dollars in debt? We don’t even have a plan for how to survive without borrowing more, let alone pay it back.
While I am not sure I would go so far as to say it is God’s judgment.
I will say that God will often give you what you think you want, even if it isn’t what you need and let you learn the hard way that what you thought you wanted isn’t what was best for you.
Countless examples of this in the Bible.
I am rather sad and rather pessimistic at the moment about the future of my country, because Obama and the liberals who voted for him really do believe there is a magic money tree in DC. They fail to realize there aren’t enough rich people to support this kind of spending.
I am also curious to see what those in the coal industry do in 2 or 4 years when Obama has essentially crippled their jobs.
The coal industry was essentially killed in the UK and all the blame was put at Thatcher’s feet. Obama is killing coal in the US and the media yawns as our energy prices sky rocket.
Me. Adams, how do you propose to safeguard the USA from socialist 2+ Supreme Court and lower court appointees? How we protect ourselves when the pResident pulls another F&F in local neighborHoods/inner cities?
just wondering where you purchased your rose colored glasses?
these domestic queries are just for starters.
Mr. Adams,
The founding fathers would probably say three things:
1. President Obama’s reelection confirms the public’s belief that George W. Bush was the nation’s third worst president.
2. The clowns at Fox “News” and MSNBC are not real journalists.
3. What’s left of the GOP can no longer rely on old, white, men to win elections.
God bless America and the common sense of most of it’s voters.
During the next 4 years, remember which side you were cheering for, as this country crashes even worse that it already has under this so-called leadership.
In 2016, assuming there’s enough of this country left to hold an election, vote accordingly (or refuse to vote, if the results of this election show you to be incompetent).
@ A Real American, who said:
“What’s left of the GOP can no longer rely on old, white, men to win elections.”
And here you have what is really at the core of liberal consciousness- severe white guilt and hate for whites and white culture, particularly white males. This alone explains 99% percent of the Obama phenomena. Misplaced racial guilt for crimes only 1% of the population ever committed, affecting only a minority of citizens- ALL of whom are dead (the guilty and the innocent). And yet, here we are in 2012 still slapping our wrists and doing white guilt backflips to somehow prove we’re not guilty white racists- to the extent we’ve become self-hating racists willing to give away the farm and our children, and promote/vote for anything that looks non-white. If this is what it now means to be “a real American”, I want no part of it.
Your analysis of this evening’s event (tragedy) and the president elect are perfect. I fear, however, that our problems are so outsized, the debt in particular, that events and the world will overwhelm us before our house can be returned to order. States rights have been nullified and struck down so often in recent years by a virtually meaningless judiciary as to be inconsequential. It’s difficult to disagree with the most pessimistic responses to your column. It is a sad night. They are celebrating tonight in many places elsewhere in the world. And there must certainly be much very quiet despair, as well.
What truth may you be referring to in regards to our founding fathers? Also, name 3 campaign promises, with specifity, that obama kept on his first 4 years. Hope & change dont count.
tried to link to commenter #18 Rob
How about his plan to make energy prices skyrocket? He’s sure as hell kept that one.
So if Obama attempts to impose federal regulations on states (eg, school curriculum) how likely is it that states will refuse to go along and take the matter to court or simply ignore the edicts?
Well, Bush the Lesser’s idiotic “Real ID Act” is effectively a dead letter because fully 1/2 of the states have refused to go along with it.
When Utah threatened to refuse NCLB Act funding, Bush sent his education secretary to Salt Lake City, hat in hand, to beg the legislature to change its mind.
Way back in 1999 Prof. Walter E. Williams proposed state tax escrow funds, where all federal taxes would be deposited before being periodically sent to Washington. If the feds threatened to withhold funding for highways or whatever, the state would simply hold back that same amount from the next escrow check. If necessary, the state would simply keep all of that money.
There are now 30 GOP governors. They need to realize the power they and their legislatures have to check the federal government — if they also have the courage to use it. That means backing up nullification laws with criminal sanctions against federal agents. The feds are like neighborhood bullies — they count on everyone else being afraid of them, then scurry away like the cowards they really are when someone stands up to them.
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“When governments fear the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
— Thomas Jefferson
“People should not be afraid of their governments.
Governments should be afraid of their people.”
— “V”
I suggest we pray for the health of the remaining conservative Supreme Court justices.
I have often said that while my life has little to do with the Constitution – other than voting to support it – that Constitution has everything to do with my life. As of tonight, I repudiate those words.
They can all go to hell
– I’m Gone Galt
Thomas Jefferson would be livid and would remind us of how far we have strayed from being a nation of self-governing free human beings:
The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.
A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.
To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.
I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious.
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
Most bad government has grown out of too much government.
“Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever.” — Thomas Jefferson
Good night and goodbye America!
We have somehow elected a man dedicated to transforming this once great nation. A transformation wherein you ask what the country will do for you not what you can do for your country!
You cannot tax success and reward indolence without making paupers of us all.
Read Isaiah 24. Go ahead, I’ll wait. Or if you’re not the religious type, read Bill Joy’s essay on where exponentially increasing technology is leading us. Either will do, since both biblical prophesy and modern scientific critique come to the same conclusion for the future.
The endgame for Earth is an almost complete depopulation of the planet due to humanity’s stupidity and immorality. Regardless of who won this election, what the tax rates are next year, whether the price of gas or gold or the value of the dollar goes up or down, etc. etc. The election of one guy over the other, at best, would’ve delayed this end. Before this night’s election results, I prayed to God for a “Josiah period” and a delay of his wrath. After tonight, I doubt it’s a prayer he’ll answer.
The best thing you can do for yourself, your family and your neighbors tonight is forget about elections, revolutions and civil wars and focus on what is the best way to act and prepare in a pre-Isaiah 24 world . . . on the eternal things that transcend all the Titanic deck-chair rearrangement that’s been going on.
Nonsense. Pray that you realize people of faith are not called to be a sect apart from a wrecked world but rather are called to renew the face of the world. John Paul II called for a new evangelization. Hunkering down in a bunker isn’t the way.
Absolutely correct.
Obama’s resume consist of only red flags, both McCain and Romney were men of outstanding performance. If they cannot defeat an obvious whack job like Obama then it is all over for the American electorate. Once freedoms are lose under the guise of social justice they are almost impossible to regain. Please tell me I’m missing something but it seems like it’s all downhill from here.
The liberal narrative, which panders to identity by positing those identities have serious enemies, has great traction for those who consider themselves victims, and those who feel some share of guilt or compassion for those victims.
That narrative flows almost unchallenged through our popular arts, the news media and educational systems. The narrative is spun and there is little to unspin it, other than counterweights, almost entirely in some conservative-leaning news outlets, which are far outnumbered by their liberal counterparts. Only one, Fox News, comes close to being mainstreamed. There is no such conservative counterweight in the arts/entertainment world or education system.
Politically, one could say the Dems were in a deep hole. Socially however, they were bailed out by the liberal narrative which suffuses our culture, and which is there regardless of whether a Rep or Dem is President or who controls the House and Senate. It is that social face that made up the difference for Obama and the Dems failures, not only in the last four years, but the last 40. That social aspect made up even ground to make the popular vote a tie, but the electoral vote far different, since liberalism is huddled around large populations.
Romney was not just up against a politician and his record, but against an extra component that is difficult to fight since it has emerged slowly, and over many years. It was the GOP vs DEM + arts, education and news. That’s how failure wins. Failure is hidden by a narrative; propaganda really if you think about it.
It is that extra component, raw, identity-based political correctness that rules on a national level. At least enough to cover DEM failure and what should have been a landslide on a political level for the GOP, into a virtual tie, and EV win for Obama. America is evenly split, but the DEMS have the right states and the means to delude their followers that failure is success. Women, Hispanics and blacks will continue to vote DEM, because they know DEMS will continue to shove gifts at their identity, and say, “there, there.”
PC created and has sustained illegal and legal immigration, and undone America in a way so profound, a tipping point has been reached that we can never turn back from as long as identity politics are in play; and they will be. Why not – it works.
Your post begs the question, if FOX News, conservative radio, and conservative books can be such commercial successes, why are there no business plans to erect a conservative media empire, including TV/cable, movies, and music? Any movie with a good plot can succeed at the box-office. It doesn’t have to have the obligatory liberal sub-plots that infect nearly all of Hollywood’s output for the last 40 years. And as for music, I don’t mean Christian rock- I simply mean less vulgar, racially slanted hip hop. As you would agree, our institutions have been infected, with popular culture being the most prolific propaganda tool of the Left. Change the content of popular culture and you will eventually change the culture. The election results suggest that nearly 50% of the nation is not yet completely sold on the liberal vision of America and could yet be persuaded over time if the cultural memes were to evolve in a conservative driection. The solution is actually simple: We need to take back the mic.
Too late. As of now. 41% of all of our children are fatherless. They might as well be born in a commune. But the good news is that our taxes will pay for contraceptives, eh?
The self-serving government; rather than being subject to the will of the people via elections, simply did something else. They elected a new people via illegal immigration and ‘entitlements’. The U.S. Govt. is doing outreach programs in Mexico. To inform the people there how to qualify for benefits in the U.S.. Conventional wisdom says that “If you subsidize something you will get more of it”. We now have the cat feeding paradox. feed stray cats, and soon you will have a yard full of stray cats looking to be fed. Past time to stop putting out the food…
I wonder what the Founders would say to us tonight if they could. What would our founders say? They would say, “You are so f*cked”. That’s what they’d say.
I can no longer deny the obvious.
I live in a foreign country.
My kids have no future here.
And I don’t know where to go.
my sentiments exactly
like other generations, free people will rebuild after the collapse.
there is no where to run to.
prepare your children for survival.
Where do I get me a free Obamaphone?
Romney got beat on social issues and civic stupidity. Until America focuses on the issues in our education system, today’s win/lose mean nothing for tomroow.
And thus, the stupidity of American voters was made manifest. The ideals of the Founders are dead, as dead as the men who created them. I see that now. If it weren’t for this election, I might have been fooled. I will be on the losing side my whole life. And I hope America burns away to be reborn in the form the Founders had for it. I blame the media for covering for Obama, I blame the illegals for voting for him, I blame the people who just want free stuff for voting for him. I hate them, I hate them all…
The nation of my birth is lost. Those who perpetrated this atrocity won’t notice what is missing because they’ve never understood what we were blessed with in the first place.
Our country as we knew it is gone. And it will not come back. The idiots who put him back in office are traitors and they will suffer the consequences of what they have done. My husband did not suffer in a German prison camp or his brother be killed in action for the likes of Obama voters. If any of you know any, never forget thay they are your enemies; treat them as such. They have stolen your country, and your freedom. You are now slaves to tyranny. How, in one generation, did we come to this?
I turned on Fox News when the polls first closed on the east coast, already they were talking a Romney defeat. Going by what was said, we liked Obama and Christe on the beach and abortion and contraceptives. I do not know if that analysis is true or if it will hold up.
Stop and think, however, if it is true. We gave an election to that man for a photo op and a box of free condoms. God help us are we that feckless?
Obama won and America lost. The country has been in decline for several decades. Now the decline goes into higher gear. Mitt is a decent man and could have made a positive difference but he’s not a great campaigner. Obama handed him a mountain of ammo against himself but Mitt wouldn’t use it, wouldn’t take off his gloves. A small margin of losers win – and make all of us losers. We must find heroes who will move to impeach the man on Benghazigate and assorted treasonous actions? We simply can’t accept this.
After 3 more BlowBama supreme court picks, all young in age so they can serve a good three decades, this country is in for a hundred years of hell.
It’s amazing that as Europe implodes the dumbocrats here decide following in Greece’s footsteps would be a good idea.
And I bet you not one of these Blowbama voting buffoons would dare walk up to -someone who had lost a loved one to a fast and furious armed cartel member, or at the consulate in Benghazi, or puttering around in Afghanistan with no mission just to come home post election – and say, “hey real sorry your kid is dead, cuz of Obama. Went ahead and voted him back in though, cuz, he’s black! Did you know that? Forget your dead kid and that Obama killed them. Just think I helped re-elect the first black president!”
You think the Constitution is still operative?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
Um..which part of it is still operative, pray tell?
I’m thinking of getting a Party Card and seeing if I can’t get appointed to the Supreme Soviet, maybe get a nice dacha on the Potomac….
Orion
And to every dem out there who claimed Obama did great in the realm of foreign policy… we know you have no friggin clue what or where the capital of your own state is, let alone where to find the US on a map.
The 10th Amendment does not lend itself to the sort of corrupt interpretation that the Commerce Clause does. States retain power, period.
That is a corrupt interpretation.
The Tenth Amendment, in saying “the states or the people” without identifying the people as the pre-eminent sovereign, opened the door to the modern conservative localism fetish, which falsely reframes the battle as being between governments, rather than between the individual (the people) and the government. While the Founders remain the pinnacle of human political development, there remained flaws and errors in their work, and this is one of them.
This corruption is akin to that of the post-Enlightenment continental European mainstream, which substituted national self-determination for individual self-determination in the nineteenth century, leading to the rise of the twentieth century totalitarianisms -and if not checked, will lead to similar ends (as Victor Davis Hanson recently mused, probably on the feudal pattern, where authority was highly localized.)
Most of the brave men and women defending our country did not get to vote.
Would they have been over 1 million?
What is the way back? That’s the question we need to ask.
It’s not over for America, or conservatism. We have a majority of governorships and the House. Even though we’re a minority, there’s still a strong remnant of Americanism and conservatism in this country.
But I admit things look dire. And not from this re-election. This election is a symptom of a far deeper problem, and one that was not going to be solved with a Romney victory. Romney, I think, would have been an excellent president. Possibly the best man I’ve seen lose a presidential election. He offered his services to help, and lost. OK, fine. But the deeper problem is cultural, and we need to win on the cultural level. That is not something that happens overnight.
The first key, when the emoting is over, is to brutally look the truth in the eye, without being tendentious or mis-characterizing what has happened or our opponents. I’m not exactly sure where we need to go, but I know we need to look at exactly what’s happened. If we get it wrong, we’re not going to be effective. I do agree that things are dire right now, and that this is a crossover into a desire for at best European-style socialism, and at worst, Latin America-style socialism. The country has changed, fundamentally. Even two decades ago, none of this nonsense would have been tolerated. Fine, we’ll need to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves, which is what we should have been all along.
The second is to not fear. Do not fear. They can only do so much to us. For those of us with faith, we can take comfort from that. But no matter your spiritual beliefs, do not give yourself thoughts that will cause you to suffer more. One thing we can do is not torment ourselves or each other.
The third key is no rash talk of civil war, secession, or civil unrest. We still have a Republic. It’s strong enough to withstand Obama. I agree it’s being tested right now. Hyper-partisanship is not helping.
It’s only after we’ve determined where the real problems are, and what we can do about it, either personally or politically, that we can move forward.
One issue is our cultural resources. We don’t have the left’s resources. The left’s long march through the institutions have taken their toll. So has an unrestrained, destructive entertainment culture. And so has technological changes which change how we think. A similar long march — I’m not sure that’s possible for us.
But we conservatives have a huge advantage that we often overlook — and don’t freak out — but our opponents often agree with us more often than they think, and we think. There is a massive remnant of conservatism within our very opponents’ culture. That is what I mean by wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
I live a red county in a blue state, but travel to one of the blue counties, and one of my clients has a workforce that is bluest-of-blue. In our political discussions, which are frequent, both my client’s employees and I have discovered vast areas of common ground. There is a conservative streak a mile wide within our cognitive elite, within the opinion makers. Because they LIVE like conservatives. We are not two nations, yet. It requires a lot of patience — both groups here suffered epistemic closure.
We need to end our epistemic closure, for those to whom that applies. I have found, if I’m willing to suffer casual insults about Republicans and conservatives, that I can do some pretty darned good concern trolling among them and draw out their conservative instincts. But you have to get past labels and you need to be able to articulate conservative arguments and/or translate their liberal arguments into conservative ones.
Right now, though, the key is to not over-catastrophize. In the meantime, yes, this is a like a punch in the gut. I’m not minimizing. But coming back is going to require some hard thinking and considerable cleverness. And maturity.
Nice to hear some common sense here.
We kicked Obamas ass in North Carolina,
and we elected a new Republican Governor.
That will teach them never to come here again for their National Convention.
Good Riddance..
“Unemployment and gas prices were up. Respect for American power was down.”
What nonsense. The Depression started under Bush and employment is up under Obama. That is simply a fact. And never was American power more disrespected than under Bush.
” He has totalitarian tendencies which manifest over and over and over again.”
Like where? What freedoms have you lost, exactly?
“Whatever powers aren’t given to the federal government, it doesn’t have. And the states are empowered to push back against federal power.”
So what are you going to do? Slavery, again? Jim Crow, anti-miscegenation laws, voter intimidation, the wonderful legacy of states-rights.
ALL of that which you cite in your final sentence are courtesy of the Democrat party.
Great deeds were done by our national heroes, but they lived back in a time where people actually READ things, and THOUGHT deeply about things, and didn’t check with the latest poll before deciding their own opinions. Those who disagreed with certain pressure groups or powerful people didn’t have to worry about being called vile names, and having their reputations shredded all over the world via Twitter and Facebook,and on cable TV “news” shows. I once sent an account of my being sexually assaulted by a bi racial group of lesbians when I was in the Army to Elaine Donnelly of the Council on Military Readiness to be used in a hearing in Congress over homosexuals in the military,this was about 3 years ago. A couple months ago, I did a Google search of myself,and to my horror, found my name on a lesbian blog,where my account was partly quoted,and viciously mocked, and there were unspeakable things in the “comments” section. Heroes of the past didn’t have to worry about such attacks.
“And I suspect after tonight, gun ownership will substantially increase.”
The moment I saw Ohio tip and the Obamanites cheering I called my best friend, who is a licensed gunsmith and told him that I wanted to have him come with my to buy a new firearm because I am branching away from my traditional stick with rifles mentality and going to purchase a pistol. And I have several friends who have emailed me and said the same.
To late to take the right to vote away from the welfare recepients,and allow our military that unemcombered RIGHT!
I’m much less sanguine about the future than Mr. Adams.
The principle of “Checks and Balances” may not work with a dishonorable man in the Oval Office. I think Obama will see the House as a bump in the road as he forges ahead in his desire to remake us. I also think Axelrod and Holder will spend the next four years making sure that a Republican never again occupies the Oval Office.
This election does represent the success of a demagogue, hopefully temporary. But I suspect this speaks to deeper concerns over the evolution of our society.
A democracy (i.e. a constitutional republic) is a political framework constructed specifically to prevent the rise of tyranny. It is easy to claim that this is achieved by the constitutional enumeration of rights and the limitation of powers, but that is only the beginning. Tyranny can only be held back by the exercise of comprehensive, universal accountability over government. While the text of the constitution represents the blueprint for our edifice of democracy, the toolkit for building and maintaining that edifice is composed of all the various means for holding the government accountable.
Look to the Bill of Rights: the first amendment speaks to powerful forms of accountability. Freedom of the press: discovery of governmental malfeasance is a first step towards accountability, reporting on that discovery is the next. Freedom of speech and peaceful assembly: the third step of the process, allowing a free people to achieve a consensus regarding that malfeasance. The process then can be closed by the vote, court action, or legislative action. Regardless, without accountability, all the fine words of the Constitution are hollow.
Tyranny may rise overtly in a few stages, easily opposable by a watchful people, or it may creep forward in a thousand silent footsteps only prevented by continued vigilance enabled by a far-reaching and robust accountability. It follows that those governmental actions that thwart accountability abet the rise of tyranny. THAT WHICH FRUSTRATES ACCOUNTABILITY ABETS TYRANNY, warranting the epithet of “tyrannism.” One who engages in such actions is a “tyrannist.”
This then is the touchstone – to identify those actions that frustrate accountability. Decisions arrived at behind closed doors in the dark of night are tyrannism. Decisions forced precipitously, prohibiting reasoned evaluation are tyrannism. Decisions conveyed as endless, incomprehensible documents are tyrannism. Decisions made by unelected, untouchable bureaucrats are tyrannism. (Yes, – tyrannism, thy name is Obamacare).
In a free society, an accusation of tyrannism should be held as the deepest insult. And tyrannists should deserve universal denunciation. Only by requiring our government to abide by and enable complete accountability and by our adopting a culture esteeming accountability can our nation remain a beacon of freedom in a world increasingly beset by darkness.
I think the Founders would look at that joke Romney and Boner saying he’s going to toady up to Obama and Reid, and spit in our faces. They’d say: “These are what you called Conservatives? Protectors of the Constitution we gave you and the Values that made this nation great?” Then they’d turn their backs on us, fart, and walk away forever.
sorry only read half. got me on the read second page thing AGAIN! I’m so irritated I came down here to complain rather than read whatever it is you decided to put on a second page. Why do you do that anyway, just to get another click? I guess I don’t really care what your saying.
“Just to get another click?”
Deal with it, they’ve got bills to pay, too.
America died on November 6, 2012. Whether through ignorance, fear, greed or by express intention the American people have thrown the Constitution under the bus. They have chosen the soft despotism of the bureaucratic welfare state over liberty, serfdom over the rigors of a free, self-reliant life, free birth control pills over religious liberty, craven submission to our enemies over free speech.
There is no going back. Historians will be busy with the autopsy for a long time. Catastrophe may cause this new order to collapse, the forces of technology and global markets may make it irrelevant; but if there is a path to the restoration of America I don’t see it anywhere.
THE government is no longer MY government. It is an alien force which I live with like the weather. Its laws are no longer my laws. I obey them out of fear and self-interest rather than a sense of moral obligation.
I look back at Romney’s candidacy. He is a decent man. Our last hope was that he could float into the presidency on the people’s frustrations and lead America back from catastrophe. He might have gotten elected with a different campaign. But I doubt that his presidency would have succeeded. America is no longer an exceptional nation because Americans are no longer an exceptional people.
We are left with rear guard actions aimed at deflecting or deferring assaults on what remains of our freedoms.
Time to knuckle down and commence with working on the State Level.
Never give up or give in
“I wonder what the Founders would say to us tonight if they could.”
I think that quite a few of them might say, “Righteous and true are Your judgements, O LORD.” We have chosen the course of national destruction, and they probably would add, “You deserve everything that is about to happen to you, you fools”.
And “Atlas Shrugged” becomes a history book instead of a precient novel.
Actually, it had already happened on the last 30′s.
Keep Calm.
However, I offer some views/predictions based on what happened in third world countries before you, and therefore are indicators of what could happen to America.
1.- Welfare State collapses? Maybe, but in a very very long term, Before they can open their eyes and see the system is broken, there will be hundreds of scapegoats to blame: Congress for instance, therefore, prepare for the tyrant backlash against Congress next time round. It took like 70 years for the URSS to collapse, not 4 more years, yet, after that, people still don’t see it as the cause or part of the cause of collapse. Those were 70 years of scapegoating too.
2. Will Atlas Shrug? Yes, Atlas (the creative and economy movers and shakers) will shrug, but at very slowly rate. They shrugged in Venezuela, the economy went down quickly, yet the tyrant is still there. Where Atlas will go? Well, they used to flee to the United States.
3. Thinking about emigration? Don’t fool your self. The rest of the world is WORSE than America. They were openly cheering and cheerleading Obama all the time, with their broken healthcare and higher taxation and regulation. The fight will have to be in America, there is no other place to go. You will continue to receive immigration because America is the free-est place on the Earth, as much as it’s depressing for you right now, it’s the paradise for people longing to be free…
4. Are there other ways to solve this mess? Yes, but it won’t be pretty. We need a new War of Independence (Secession, Revolution, whatever), the place that can lead re this is Texas. But it will have to be PRINCIPLED from the beginning. It shouldn’t be a “revolution” because the economy is on a ditch, or because we want to abort -or not to abort, the whole day. A new Constitution summing up what we know, and trimming what we know is not good, should be elaborated. A memorial explaining all the things government made against the individual would be helpful too.
5. We have to be vocal. We need to protest all the way, voice our opposition and rally the people, they will see our commitment to principles, and will see the economic mess and will come. We are not good at “marching through institutions”. We are good at revolutions tho.
6. The Army In the worst case, the Army will try to defend the system (look at Syria, they split ranks with the regime ONLY when regime is totally crumbling), so even when they can be sympathetic to “Freedom”, don’t expect them to join a revolution. This can change, however, if it’s made clear your revolution is in favor of the current Constitution. A “back to the basics” movement.
7. We accepted bad premises: that we are a democracy. We are not… or never intended to be. Once you accept that false premise, you accepted to play their game, and their game is rigged. This time round, they were openly stealing in front of your eyes (black panthers, posters in polling places, and G’d knows what else is still covered). All the while the POTUS is ruling by executive edicts (and the Congress not doing his long overdue job of opposition/impeachments etc).
8. Great minds in the world were still acting the fool, from the Gop leaders to Netanyahu; thinking this was a civilized thing. The ones that knew how deep in problems we are, were labeled crazy nuts and treated as enemies (from Ayn Rand to Ron Paul) and they are still unliked by tons of right wing pundits (living under the democracy premises about voting and popularity, etc).
9. I want to put emphasis on: don’t count on collapse. Not going to happen. Immigration of people still looking for freedom, hard working and productive, won’t let it happen quick enough. Those minds should be welcome anyway.
“1989 and 1776 are years marked by the triumph of liberty. Unlike the bloody 1776, 1989 simply saw individuals refusing to participate in a morally and economically bankrupt system, even if refusal broke any number of laws on the books.”
Dream on. The election last night proved once and for all that we’ve hit a tipping point and that now the majority of Americans (even if it is a thin majority) have no problems with the United States turning into a European-style welfare state. Americans now have no problems turning into France, Spain, Italy, or Greece. Especially Greece, which is now bankrupt, along with Spain and Portugal. Americans have decided that we can continue spending money like there is no tomorrow, even though Greece proves that tomorrow eventually DOES come.
Always remember that Obamacare was on this ballot just as much as Obama was. And the American public knew that if Obama was re-elected there would be absolutely no chance of repealing Obamacare. And the Supreme Court said as much. The Supreme Court said that if we wanted to repeal Obamacare, don’t look at the court for help. We would have to win an election, and we did not.
So, like the now defunct Newsweek said years ago, “We are all socialists now.” Well, at least 50% of us are. As for the other 50%, we’re the ones that get stuck with the bill. And when the money runs out, as in Greece and Spain, and you have hungry people, sky-high taxes, massive unemployment (20% in Spain, higher in Greece), and riots in the streets, then I wonder what will become of this nation? Will we survive, or will there be civil unrest on a scale not seen in this country since the 1968 riots that burnt a lot of this nation down?
Oh, and by the way, remember that video of Romney saying that roughly 47% of the public was going to vote for Obama no matter what? Remember when he said that roughly 47% of the public was getting “free” stuff from the government and that now there was now no incentive for them to stop the entitlement mentality? Well, I guess he was proved right. And now America will have to live with that for four long years. I just hope there’s something left of this country after that.
Three suggestions for the future:
1. Convince the GOP to let the primaries work without undue meddling. Everyone tried to tell the “Establishment GOP” that they didn’t like Romney, but nooooooo, they know better than us stupid voters, don’t they? Media meddling isn’t just a Democratic problem. Mitt didn’t win the primaries fair and square, he won because the Establishment destroyed any candidate who dared to challenge him (and personally I wonder if other – maybe even the best – potential candidates knew better than to even attempt a run, when it was obvious that the GOP had already chosen their preferred darling).
2. Do something about media meddling. Whether it’s peddling goods or ideas, any free market needs accurate information to operate properly.
3. Do something to reverse the astonishing lack of civics education in this nation. Fifteen or so years ago I watched teachers marching schoolkids around the yard, holding left wing protest signs and singing “We Will Overcome”. This is what schoolkids are being taught in the spot where “civics” is supposed to go. Lack of education (and mis-education, or anti-education indoctrination if you prefer) is a real problem for conservative values.
4A. Do something to make those “social conservatives are dragging down the party” people understand the link between social and fiscal issues. Broken families are what makes the entitlement state desirable and necessary. People from intact, healthy families vote conservative. People who are raised in broken and/or unhealthy families are terrified of conservative values, because broken, dysfunctional families = broken, dysfunctional electorate. The more families break, the more people need government help getting by.
Think about it: conservative values require people capable of entering into healthy relationships. Conservative values require strong people and strong relationships. Conservative values require healthy boundaries, self-confidence, the capacity for trust (and the ability to know when, where, and how to trust wisely), and other important traits that are at the heart of what social conservatives are fighting for. Without these traits, there can be no self-sufficiency, no personal responsibility, no social cohesion. Stop thinking of entitlement gimmee-people as greedy and start recognizing what they really are is terrified: they can’t rely on their network, they can’t rely on their own skills, they have nothing to rely on – and hence the idea of competing in an open marketplace is a horrible vision for them.
Too many conservatives don’t understand why social conservatives are even allowed to stay in the Republican party. They only see that the Democrats have but to dangle free birth control and abortions, and a certain percentage of the populace comes running. What they don’t see is that we can’t concede the sexual revolution without becoming just like the Democrats, because there *is* in fact a link between broken families and socialist government policies. That link needs to be made more clear.
4B And evangelicals need to be told to stop talking about what God wants or does not want, and instead phrase it in ways that aren’t going to anger and alienate people who don’t happen to share their religion – it’s that sort of talk that *created* the idea that evangelicals want to push their religious beliefs on everyone. Those evangelicals who really do want to push their religious beliefs on everyone need to be told to find a way to try to do so that does not take away anyone’s agency or make anyone feel violated or disrespected, because freedom of belief is an essential, an integral part of what America is, and was founded on. This sort of evangelical talk is exactly why Democrats are able to paint evangelicals as people who wish to establish a theocracy through force.
“Thankfully the Constitution still is operative”. Wrong. The Constitution has become a document that is mostly ignored or interpreted by discussing the equivalent of the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. The downfall of the Constitution started with Griswold vs. Connecticut when the word “privacy’ was inserted into the Constitution with absolutely no basis. It continued through John Roberts pretzel logic in the Obamacare decision with additional damage done along the way by Obama’s decision to legislate immigration law on his own. So, pray tell, how is the Constitution as written still operative.
You nailed it MassJim. You have liberal Justice Ginsburg denigrating the Constitution and Obama making end-runs via Executive Orders, unelected Czars, and unfettered, unelected regulators. The current thinking is that the Constitution is a “living” document that changes with the times. This interpretive trend is disastrous since it permanently guts the document and its meaning so it can and is used to justify anything people want.
Amazing. I just wrote this note to myself:
Obama has been reelected and the radical left intends to take control of aspects of our lives far beyond the bounds of their enumerated powers. We, the people, are not obligated to help them.
State and local governments, who recognize and object to Federal overreach, should take action. Governors should put the administration on notice that they will not comply, directing state and local law enforcement not to cooperate with Federal agencies much the way sanctuary cities defy immigration laws.
If the feds threaten to withhold federal funding, states could refuse to collect and deliver withheld federal revenue. The only jurisdiction in the nation that receives more federal revenue than it collects is the District of Columbia.
For example, the Obama administration wants EPA to impose cap & trade although the Congress has rejected it, shutting down coal fired power plants although there is no Constitutional basis for this demand.
Many other examples will require push back.
If I am not mistaken, Maine is a “welfare state” in that we receive more Federal money than we send in taxes. It seems most of our population thinks that we “deserve” it, and the “rich states” should send in more so we can benefit.
“As Maine goes, so goes the nation”–but you won’t like it.
yup.
and we chose king.
well when heating oil spikes (probably next winter not this one) I bet many of us (probably me too) will die in winter.
good.
I no longer care.
let them cuddle up next to one of kings windmills.
the people of this nation, as a whole, are not worth caring about anymore. so I won’t.
“I wonder what the Founders would say to us tonight if they could.”
Oh probably something like, “May God damn your worthless souls to eternal hell!”
I suppose George would be more forgiving but he’d be thinking it.
Gauging by my deep unhappiness this morning I must admit that my mind is not right with my God.
Knowing His Word and the history of mankind how could a Christian expect anything more than what now transpires in our land?
The Great Commission is our work. Not American politics. The tumult now to come is our opportunity not an occasion to feel sorry for ourselves. The fields are standing ripe for harvest.
One wonders how Romney lost this election. ???
Really? I flip-flopping candidate will always lose an election.
Can’t trust him! Simple as that!
But GOPE made us believe that Romney and his non-attack strategy and literally looking good on TV was enough to win the election.
Never discussed the social issues, Never hammered Benghazi, Sending your VP partner to vote for extending funds to Obamacare while your GOP caucus would also the file repeal bill at the same time and you yourself was the original author of a very similar law in MA and so on so on so on so on so on …
stupid is what a stupid party does!
The Founders always said many, often conflicting things, but I assume a majority of them be proud (in between periods of continuing their arguments with each other) that they set up a Republic that has survived many divisive elections with only one Civil War, where people can disagree strongly, but argue and vote, rather than kill each other. We can buy guns, but the point should be not to USE them on each other.
Let the liberals learn their civics and the Tea Party learn the actual history of the country’s immigration, elections, and social progress, which is at least as much of what we are as the Sublime Document.
John Galt was unavailable for comment.
How did Romney lose? Simple answer, nobody named Mitt is ever going to get elected President of the United States. It’s one of these country club crested blazer 550SL Mercedes names. Told my wife that during the primaries.
They would say “Idiots!” very succintly. I would say reread the Declaration of Independence again, and see how much of it could be applied to our current government. About the free press thingy, not such much when they’ve been bought with our birthright.
Unless the GOP admits that all/every compromise with the Left is what’s got US where we are, they’ll never improve the course of our Republic. The party and incumbent Republicans have let US down at every turn.
Soon $20 trillion in debt?
Agreeing to raise the “debt ceiling” multiple times?
Agreeing to sequestration?
Allowing the administration to go into Libya w/o Congressional permission?
Enabling all the new regulations to get requisite funding?
Permitting Obamacare to be passed into law?
Permitting “bailouts” and w/o any oversight on expenditures?
Enacting pay raises for themselves, while the economy sinks?
Enacting “laws” to which they needn’t adhere?
Allowing the gov’t to run on “continuing resolutions” for 4 years?
F&F?
Benghazi?
More “flexibility after re-election”?
Nobody’s ever accountable?
Ad infinitum.
We’ve been betrayed.
We were out-maneuvered on the public relations front by assuming Americans were not surface deep in their attention to current issues. We were trying to be diplomatic and honest while the opposition used untruths and vitriol to lure Americans more interested in scandal, more convinced by lies packed in easily digested sound-bites. Once again we had a candidate who was mowed over by these tactics. Americans had already been given a life-size version of the Democratic-created greedy hating liar named Romney before the first debates. We need a person with a fire in his belly who has conviction before we can win. That, and the near collapse of the Republic may finally wake America up.
“Agreeing to raise the “debt ceiling” multiple times?”
It’s a Republican tradition. Remember George Bush II? The idea that Republicans are fiscally responsible is way above 98% of Americans who cannot understand how Rush Limbaugh and the the crank Ayn Randists are right because they scream loudly about how prudent they are.
George Bush II + Republican Party = Economic madness.
Obama = George Bush II + Steroids.
Yelling at the American people for thinking Republicans are just as irresponsible as Democrats won’t get anyone any where.
The Founding Fathers would not recognize America now. They would see many of the very tyrannies which they fought to subdue. They would be aghast at the popular culture as if looking into a time machine and seeing Sodom and Gomorrah. They would see Americans preoccupied with television, movies, and video games. They see those same outlets along with newspapers (and our internet versions thereof) expressing love of unimagined abominations and sought after addictions not to freedoms but free stuff. They would be crying.
Terminal old fartism rears its head. You do know don’t you that the revolutionary generation and its immediate aftermath were significantly more secular thjan the generations just before and just after them. The American Revolution was not about God and morality, but liberty and commerce.
John Adams:
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.”
George Washington Fairwell Address 1796:
” Let it simply be asked, ‘Where is the security for people, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Jusitce?’ And let us with caution indulge the supposition, that morality can be maintained without religion.-Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on the minds of particular structure-reason and experience both forbid us to expect, that national morality can prevail in the exclusion of religious principles.”
All I know is: if PJM continues to lead its stories with Obama’s face, I will be out of here entirely. I have seen too much of that face, and heard too much of that stuttering voice. I’m done with it.
In the last few weeks, and in the replies to this article, I have read some incredibly vile and stupid thoughts. In my entire long life, I discipline myself to consider facts, not biased notions, and draw judgments from them. I recommend hard thinking in this time.
It is a fact that only 1/3 of Syrian air force pilots are allowed to fly today; they are the only trusted segment of this branch of their military, to kill their own people. I reject all concepts of combat against the US government, civil war, as I have spent my life engineering nuclear power. Our founders never contended with an energy which can evaporate a major city. Do not put Obama in a position to consider this option. He considers the boundary of law as applicable to others.
He is not evil; he is the product of our culture, as is Romney. A socialist activist just ran against a capitalist billionaire in an economy which is staggering due to corporate and governmental corruption. The sum of their campaign costs exceeded by forty times the total expenditures of all British political parties, running for all positions, in the last election. Billions have been spent, and by a hair, the people choose bigger, corrupt government. And continued divided governance. Surely the lying media, and scientists, played some major role.
What will come? Diminished trust in all social institutions. More regulation. Continued unemployment. A weaker energy infrastructure, (my secret terror, a collapsed grid, no juice for five years in some major city). Energy costs will skyrocket. Hyperinflation, our dollar will not buy food. Heighten conflict between government and religion on social mores. Thus hundreds of schools and hospitals will close. A nuclear Iran. American blood, split on our soil, by terrorists. China and Russia will test us, harder. Our “allies” will distant themselves from us. America will be much weaker four years from now. It is not the end, but it could mark the beginning of the end of the United States of America. We are now the Divided States of America, blue on the coasts, red in the middle.
God help our country.
They would kick the s*** out of us. Then Ben Franklin would slap the back of our heads and say, “You couldn’t keep it!”
Lord, I’m so depressed. And Obots at work are still celebrating, even though a huge chunk of them don’t have electricity at home, are afraid to leave their houses free to looters if they go to a hotel, and oh, look, another storm just turned and is heading straight for us. Again.
America’s In Trouble! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AK-Hzajs_0
Agenda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mcjD0yAT-go
We Need Jesus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5DNOeSe47s
Stock up on bullets (while you can still buy them and guns before Obama outlaws them), beans and band aids, because a fecal matter storms coming. Obama will view his re-election as free will to spend as much as he likes on what ever he likes since he’s not able to campaign for a third term, so no repercussions.
Money will be printed at an even faster rate, money will be devalued faster, inflation will rise faster, China will say, “No more money for you”, countries will abandon the Petrodollar, and people who are expecting their “OBAMAPHONES” will riot when the government can no longer afford to give the, all their free crap anymore.
And what ever you do, don’t post about what you do online since Obama has said that CISPA doesn’t go far enough. That means the government will start monitoring your on,one habits with more scrutiny.
With the Patriot Act (renewed by Obama multiple times and supported by Romney), NDAA (signed into law by Obama and supported by Romney), we’re screwed. So even if Romney had won, our civil liberties are still trampled upon. Obama will just make sure he twists his boot just a bit to make it hurt just that little bit more than Romney’s plain old stamp of the boot on our faces and necks.
“Thankfully the Constitution still is operative.”
That would be true if the judiciary believed in upholding it, but a majority of federal justices consider the Constitution an impediment. “penumbra and emanations” is their creed.
The Founders? They would be sick to their stomachs. The degradation of our nation & it’s politics came quickly, in a historical sense. A gift from those Founders, squandered on today’s voting trash.
Just think this is the 100 year anniversary of the creation of the Federal Reserve and the Federal Income Tax. Khrushchev was right, without a single shot fired, we did it to ourselves. December 6, 2012 was the coup de grâce. God bless.
One obvious but overlooked point is that Barack Obama is a complete fraud. He will never lead because he not only doesn’t have a clue how to lead but if he gets close enough to the negotiations to actually be involved he would show himself up as the clueless bloviator that he is. He isn’t after all very smart just glib and he knows it.
Therefore to avoid the embarassment of being found out again as he was in the first debate, he will stay at a distance and the country will lack the leadership it needs to avoid the financial cliff in January. After four years we can be pretty sure not to expect any actions from Obama except prepared speeches and arrogant posturing.
I think repubs need to do some soul searching, especially on how to broaden our party to get that remaining 5% we need to win, with groups like hispanics, asians,and women. Hispanics and asians are workers and entrepenours and dont want gov handouts, they just want an accomidation on immigration. We can’t cede 70% of the hispanic vote to the dems and win, we need to move on immigration. And we need to make sure that if we nominate any pro life candidates, at least they are not religious nut types like Akin and Mourdock, who badly alienated women and moderates. We also need to move on gays to win young people, who really cares if 2 men want to get married, they dont hurt us or cost us anything. We cant just depend on fervor within our present cooalition, we must expand it, and the type of issues I cited here are not the vital type of pocket book issues we must stand firm on, but can win us a lot of new votes.
Yes, let’s do all of the above – state secession, nullification, or implement the 10th Amendment. Let’s finally create the 2 Americas within America. This way, we will never have to deal with a 2 party system ever again, with each America having each respective party governing. Oh wait a minute, the Founders never promoted this. They intended for America to stay as one. That was the democracy that they once championed wholeheartedly when they wrote down in the Preamble, “In order to form a more perfect union”. What this means is that the government was not perfect but that the Founders had a goal to form a better union between all the states because they know that alone, each state was not perfect but vulnerable to attack and vulnerable economically. To strive for a more perfect union could eradicate this vulnerability but if you think that J. Christian Adams’ radical suggestion is NOT against everything that the Founders believed in, then the Constitution means nothing to you so stop talking about something that you really don’t believe in – our Founders and the Constitution.