What Is the Answer? In That Case, What Is the Question?
“Every adolescent has that dream every century has that dream every revolutionary has that dream, to destroy the family.”
Found via Commentary, Jewish Ideas Daily explores the notion of “Gertrude Stein, Fascist?” The article begins with an image of Picasso’s portrait of Stein from the start of the 20th century and a quote from him. “Everybody thinks she is not at all like her portrait. But never mind, in the end she will manage to look just like it”:
This discrepancy between the imaginary Stein and the private Stein is, in a sense, the true subject of Barbara Will’s recent Unlikely Collaboration: Gertrude Stein, Bernard Faÿ, and the Vichy Dilemma. Will’s book, the latest and most thorough investigation (and this is very much a detective story) of Stein’s political ideology, is extremely detailed and erudite, and brings to public attention what had previously been hidden in scholarly journals: Stein’s wartime translations of the speeches of Marshal Philippe Pétain, head of France’s Vichy regime, with a highly sympathetic introduction that compares Pétain to George Washington.
Will combs Stein’s archives for clues about her “collaboration”—what it constituted, whether it was genuine—and comes away convinced that Stein is guilty of “commitment” to Pétain. But, as often as not, the evidence points to a fundamental murkiness. No matter how much the archive appears to answer and expose, questions always remain, and we frequently cannot say what Stein intended. What appears to be unassailable evidence of collaboration can just as easily be unassailable evidence of Stein’s survival instinct. Perhaps there is no difference.
Consider the Pétain documents themselves. What can we actually say about them? The book was never published, the translations were shoddy, and there are hints in Wars I Have Seen that she abandoned Pétainism. (Her Pétainism was originally genuine.) But Stein was also a Jewish woman (as was Toklas) whose life depended on the protection of Vichy officials, and there is the very real possibility that Stein’s self-styled role as Vichy propagandist was a fiction necessary for survival. Or it is at least an embellishment. Reading this way, we enter a second murkiness of morality, and approach the question of when self-preservation becomes outright collaboration. It is not a comfortable place.
In order to make sense of the Pétain documents, Will scrutinizes almost every shred of Stein’s writing, from articles, essays, and novels to private letters and notes, and reads them for what they might say about Stein’s actions. As Will writes, “It would be a mistake to simply dissociate Stein’s early ‘progressive’ experimental writing from her later ‘reactionary’ politics to excuse or compartmentalize. The tendencies that drew Stein toward both Bernard Faÿ and Philippe Pétain, we could say, were always there.”
Wow, a modernist artist in bed with the Nazis or their collaborators. That’s never happened before! (Or not, as we’ll explore on the next page.)







Well, one thing for sure, the woman doesn’t like commas.
Would anyone care to argue seriously that that is not where we are heading with this Administration? The power hunger, elitist ideology, crony capitalism, and Jew hatred are all right there for all to see. Yep, the National Socialist Democratic Action Party is alive and well right here.
“What’s old is new again.”
– it was a good book, but not a great book and then laughed.
And Pablo laughed.
And F. Scott laughed.
And Driscoll punched Hemingway in the mouth.
Heh. I’m rarely confused with Alvy Singer.
Gertrude probably figured that if collaboration with fascism was good enough for Ezra Pound,it was good enough for her
Any port in a storm…
Ezra Pound used to brag that he was able to prove he was sane. He had his discharge papers from St Elizabeths Hospital after a stint to recover his sanity.
The religion of the intellectuals is pure power-worship.
What a striking insight. (Sorry, Ed. With one blow comes Enlightenment.)
I’ve never heard it put better.
That’s why they strive so.
Not to be the monarch, but to be his chamberlain.
Since Plato and Alcibiades has been that way
A book that I had gotten from … I think it was one of those overstock book catalogues … was Paris in the Third Reich. It doesn’t have many good reviews at this link -
http://www.amazon.com/Paris-Third-Reich-Occupation-1940-1944/dp/0002166453/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1330824387&sr=1-1
… but it did cement in me a dislike for certain French intellectuals who sat out the war and the German occupation, not doing very much at all save for being their own precious and unique snowflake selves. But then they spent the following decades lecturing the rest of us on the high moral principles that ought to be lived up to in hard times.
Yes, Occupied France was a hard and difficult place, for a moral human being to sort out what to do in the face of a brutal occupation. Individuals did what they thought best. Not everyone was cut out to be a resistant, and it took a selfessly brave person to do so. But many did – and most of them weren’t anointed intellectuals.
But still – I would have expected better from those who set themselves up as our moral and intellectual guides.
Ezra Pound I can forgive on the strength of one quote: “What, gentle reader, is a bureaucrat? A hired janitor who thinks he owns the building.”
Both sides of political spectrum suffer from a collective amnesia about collectivism. Mussolini was the frist Progressive hero. Progressives barely noticed Lenin and the Soviets until the mid 1920s. While a majority of America’s Progressives became enfatuated with Communism the still did not reject Fascism until the Spanish Civil War. Of course, On August 23, 1939 Fascism became Progressive again until magicly banished to the netherworld by some forgotton event on June 22, 1941.
With varying degrees of success, I try to be as charitable as possible to our ancestors because you never can quite put yourself in their shoes, and even if you could and then be really sure of what you’d have done.
In that vein, I remember this line from the remake of Shadowlands, the movie about C.S. Lewis’s marriage to Joy Davidman. At one point, Joy, speaking of the naivete of her youth, says, “Well, I mean, back in the thirties it seemed to me there was only two choices … either you were a fascist and you conquered the world … or you were a Communist and you saved it.”
Looks naive now, didn’t then. When it comes to the future, we ride with our backs to the engine. In a fog.
I like to play a game where I look as the most “progessive” people I know and try to figure out what role they would have had in Nazi Germany. SS Stormtrooper? Gestapo agent? Party Member? Concentration camp guard? The guy who turned Anne Frank’s family in?
I see underlying characteristics in most progressives that would bloom under the proper facist regime. I can always seeing how easy it would be for the US to go Nazi in a very short time. The main players are always waiting in the wings, and all we need is a new Mein Fuhrer. Then again, maybe he’s aleady he…..
You were hardly the first:
http://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/0020122
Who Goes Nazi?
“There are few minds to which tyranny is not delightful.” — Samuel Johnson
Hundreds of Americans were killed week in and week out in the Vietnam war. On the news every day the body counts. You could forgive people for thinking that something wasn’t quite right.
So dumbass kids proclaimed they were communists. At my school some idiots formed the Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigades and tried to organize the black population on the east side of town. Luckily the police were on hand to rescue them from the ungrateful proletariat.
Also kids one knew in high school went overseas and got killed.
Long rambling post. Those were the days. Hopefully we’ll not see their like again. Unless we keep dragging up video from the 60′s.
Those were the days. Hopefully we’ll not see their like again. Unless we keep dragging up video from the 60′s.
As long as we have former Hippie Radicals as many of our politicians and media figures, you can count on it.
I was not surprised to read yesterday that Obama’s TSA has grown from a modest 16,000 to over 51,000 employees in a very short time. The TSA’s duties have also “grown” to included inspections of vehicles, boats, etc and the individuals driving them, they perform duties that ordinarily belong to trained cops. My point is this; Obama once announced that a domestic “police” force was needed; their boss being hisself in the WH. Now THAT is a scary idea to me and speaks directly to Ed’s piece. Notice how the “under the rada” stealth TSA has grown and continues to grow without a word from the MSM – this is one of the most outrageous developments and fits perfectly into the totalitarian nature of this administration … their little tentacles are appearing in every aspect of our lives with very little resistance. Breitbart was spot-on when he described these bozos as THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT … radical SOB’s power-grabbing our country … look no further than Holder for a classic example of pure lawlessness.
G.Stein had this long time friendship , since 1926 ,with Bernard Fay a prominent Vichy official head of the national library in Paris, this was an ” friendly ” complicity on a personnal level; Fay did provided protection to G.Stein & Alice Toklas , both jewess, who could pass through the nazi ordeal unscathed, and Fay kept their appartment and their painting collection intact.In a litterary ” scratch my back – I will scratch yours ” G.Stein started a translation of Marshall Petain speeches and declared he was a kind of G.Washington paternalistic figure.Bernard Fay was condemned after the liberation and stayed 6 years in jail then escaped to Switzerland , where he was helped financially by Ms Toklas.Fay was a strange personality, monarchist, anti-republican and anti-freemasonry, and was also homosexual. So altogether it was a matter of private survival between two intellectuals Stein & Fay.This does not absolve G.Stein of her superiority complex and her estrangement towards the surrounding period , the mass murders, the deportations, etc..but it was a murky period and she was too estranged from the whole society to cling to a monolithic refusal which could have come out of natural hostility towards the fascists of WW II.Stein died in 1946.
The French in the middle of the 20th century had a very complex, confused, and twisted view of themselves, and their actions during the era were almost always either morally compromised, corrupt, or cowardly, at least in general. The army collapsed in record time (for a variety of reasons, technological, tactical, operational, and morale) and once it did, the country tried to flee en masse to escape the Nazis. My favorite vignette of the flight of the elite was the one guy whose mistress brought along so much luggage that it had to be piled high in the back of their convertible: when the car suddenly stopped, some of it fell forward, hit her in the back of the head, and broke her neck.
During the occupation, many Frenchmen collaborated with the Nazis. Jews were deported to Germany, workers were sent as “guest workers” (mostly for slave labor), and soldiers even fought, at times, for the Nazis. The SS recruited formations in France, and some of the individuals were very devoted in their Nazism: some of the last defenders of Berlin were French SS troops.
When the liberation happened in 1944, the partisans were often startled by French army officers who showed up to command them, having never been seen before. The partisans referred to them by a French word which means “mothballs” because their army uniforms had been in storage since 1940 (and they’d been nowhere near the fighting as long as the partisans were outgunned by the Nazis) and held them in considerable contempt. De Gaulle famously tried to write out of the history books several British officers who assisted the Maquis (partisans) if those Maquis weren’t affiliated with him; the French Communists famously collaborated with the Nazis until Hitler invaded the U.S.S.R., and then tried to rewrite history to show they’d always hated the Nazis. Back in the ’80s, when I was in France and went to a military museum, the main display devoted to the liberation in 1944 showed the invasion on the Riviera, where the majority of the troops involved were French; it left out all mention of Normandy and tried to make it look as if the French had liberated themselves. Unless you were an expert you wouldn’t have recognized that all the tanks were American-made.
So, the French back then were morally bankrupt and inevitably self-serving. Stein was at least living in France, and as a result compromised herself, apparently at least in part as an act of self-preservation. Frankly, given that she was a two-fer as far as the Nazis were concerned (Jewish *and* lesbian) I don’t really blame her for this. Her sympathizing with the Nazis only went so far as some writings, which were never published; she did nothing (as far as we know) which actually harmed anyone. So her “crime” seems rather trivial to me; her writing is atrocious, but that’s a subjective thing, and others may differ.
So what?,Soros was a collaborator of nazis.
Sartre was also a collaborator
The best writters of the time were part of Vichy, nazis or fascists:Celine, Driu,Junger,Malaparte.Or communists most of the rest including Koestler, Serge, Gide, Hemingway ( The Robles affair), Dos Passos.Grossman, Malaparte.Brecth( who funraised for Hitler)
And many sold their souls to survive: Gorky,Pasternak.
A few left both ideologies
And I forgot the one mentioned up: the rose of Rome
An quoting Tacitus ( or whoever write the work on oratory) : “those who survived must be ashamed” .
But nobody knows what they will do to survive
“But nobody knows what they will do to survive.”
True. We all like to think the best of ourselves, that we will act bravely when the time comes, but we never actually know until the time comes.