TMZ: Michael Jackson Dies
According to the entertainment news site TMZ:
We’ve just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.
Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon at his Holmby Hills home and paramedics were unable to revive him. We’re told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.
A source tells us Jackson was dead when paramedics arrived.
LaToya ran in the hospital sobbing, after Jackson was pronounced dead.
Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince “Blanket” Michael Jackson II.
Jackson had 13 number one hits during his solo career.
As they note at the bottom of their report, “Story developing…”
On Twitter, Allahpundit notes, “TMZ is the only outlet reporting Jackson’s death as far as I know.” The “Arquette Sisters” from Fox’s Red Eye show add, “If MJ lives, TMZ is gonna have to pull a Monty Python Mary Queen of Scots skit to get themselves out of this.”
Update: “How many more icons of my youth can we lose in one day? Stay strong, Hasselhoff. Stay strong.”
Update: LA Times reports:
[Updated at 3:15 p.m.: Pop star Michael Jackson was pronounced dead by doctors this afternoon after arriving at a hospital in a deep coma, city and law enforcement sources told The Times.]
Update: More from Richard Fernandez and Gateway Pundit. Meanwhile — but of course — “Michael Jackson Dies — Celebs Go to Twitter.”
Update: “Michael Jackson’s reported demise roils Wikipedia”, but then, most celebrity deaths — real and imagined — have that effect on the “faith-based encyclcopedia.”
Update: AP confirms via “A person with knowledge of the situation [who] says Jackson died Thursday in a Los Angeles hospital. The person was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.”
Elsewhere in the legacy media, there’s a lengthy obit full of the highs and freakshow lows, from USA Today. And speaking of freakshows, this Triumph of a moment is perhaps the definitive portrait of Jackson’s more crazed fans.
Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, Karol Sheinin adds, “Biggest winner of Michael Jackson death? Mark Sanford. Biggest losers? The Iranian people.”
Update: Entertainment Tonight (whose initials are certainly appropriate for this story) has what they’re calling “an exclusive final photo” showing Jackson being carted off on a stretcher and receiving attempted resuscitation. Mild content warning, but click here if you’re morbidly curious. (I hope ET’s legal fees are paid up, if there’s an invasion of privacy suit.)
And in the perfect harmonic convergence of media trainwrecks, the self-described “King of Pop” (take that, Prince!) gets eulogized by the self-described next Edward R. Murrow.
Flashback: For a look at how the culture has transformed in the last forty years, which ties in with Diana West’s Death of the Grown-Up meme, here’s a flashback to how distant the middle-aged journalists at ABC News seemed, as no doubt the rest of the overculture, when it covered Jimi Hendrix’s death in 1970. It makes for quite a contrast with the breathless coverage playing out on the TV news right about now.
Update: Could an Automated External Defibrillator (AED) have saved Jackson’s life? That’s the topic of this post by the Instapundit, Glenn Reynolds. Elsewhere, the UK Sun writes:
He collapsed and stopped breathing after an injection of a powerful painkiller named Demerol.
Jacko, 50, was said to be addicted to the drug – similar to morphine – and it is feared he took an overdose.
Take that with a fairly large grain of salt at least for now; Virginia Postrel’s post a few years ago on the vagaries of Fleet Street is well worth flashing back to.
Update (6/26): TMZ reports, “Jackson Family — Demerol Shot Caused Death.”
The real Michael Jackson died a long time ago.
The “conflicting reports” are probably wrong. It is my understanding that Michael Jackson’s heart was not beating for over ten minutes. Six minutes, according to some experts, is usually all it takes to result in death.
The legacy media is waiting for an official announcement. TMZ has likely talked to actual—and knowledgeable witnesses. My money is on the alternative media.
people shut up and leave him alone he died yeah.but he is not a white woman.and who cares he was born black but died white. not me.need to quit calling him a woman. and he had a disease that turned him white but not all the way his hands are still black and micheal jackson is not a walking freak or a dead freak. So JUST LET HIM REST IN PEACE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD AND DON’T SAY ANYTHING STUPID ABOUT HIM
That’s so sad, he was young and had young children.
Should the legacy media be congratulated for behaving in an ethical manner? There are a few disturbing questions concerning TMZ’s report of Michael Jackson’s death: are the witnesses breaking the law? Are they violating the Jackson family’s right to privacy?
He was a good performer.
R.I.P.
Like Praetorian said: Michael Jackson has been dead for a very long time.
It would not be surprising if this was NOT a coincidence, given the report of Farrah Fawcett’s death earlier today.
Ed the other day, then Fara now Jackson.
How do you spell Manaj de’ trois?
Yes, the ghoulish fascination with the passing of a celebrity is disturbing. And, yes, the families are entitled to privacy. Unfortunately that isn’t what happens. People want to know what happened. He was famous, so privacy, for the most part, isn’t realistic whether they are legally entitled to it or not. It’s part of the territory of being famous.
To: People Just Shut Up……
What is your problem? You come here and rant before anybody has said anything. Calm down!! Anybody who is surprised by his early death is blind. Michael has been sickly for so long, it is a wonder he lasted as long as he did. Our prayers go out to his family.
So, I guess he wasn’t in Saudi Arabi when this went down. Lucky for him.
From playground to playground, sandbox to sandbox a sigh of relief is heard around the world.
The real Michael Jackson did indeed die a long time ago. I liked him at his peak around the Thriller album when I was in 6th grade; my 6th grade teacher also loved Michael Jackson as a fan. He turned into a freak afterwards, slowly changing his appearance to match a ghost. Where’s the Farrah Fawcett tribute? I guess her death was expected & Michael’s was not.
Victor Davis Hanson got it right..our culture is nothing other than “creepy”. A world class novelist like Gilbert Sorrentino can die in New York City where he lived and wrote for 75 years
and he doesnt even earn an obituary in the New York Times.. But this little freak’s death is a
national tragedy. Creepy describes it alright.
Poster #4 is obviously upset by this announcement. Personally, I am left wondering just who will care for those 3 children (as if Michael ever did). He was a great performer who morphed into a macabre freak who had a penchant for young boys. Ew.
Guarantee that we’ll start seeing accusations that Michael Jackson faked his death. I just ran a google search on “Michael Jackson faked death” and got 259,000 hits.
I just beg the “news” networks to cover actual news such as cap and trade, Iran, immigration, etc. rather than go wall-to-wall, 24/7 coverage of this event. Thousands of people standing in a parking lot staring at the side of the UCLA Medical Center is not very compelling “news”. Get real!
R.I.P., child toucher. No more Jesus Juice for you.
Dope, dope, dope, dope & dope. And more dope.
Contless people struggle in life, pushing heroically and unacknowledged ahead this waggon called society and when they pass away, no one is wringing his or her hands as it hapens now, for this guy whose chief merits were to grab his crotch, and move around in stroboscopic manner.
Michael Jackson and all other performers like him are artists? Hardly so – they just clueless blokes who just accidentally match a fade or another.
Gone, over, kaput, konec, not worth to remember – and Aaron Copeland’s “Fanfare For The Common Man” sure shouldn’t be played for this twerp.
20, egad. That’s morbid. That’s almost Fred Phelps morbid. These troofers need to discover this thing called a ‘life’.
RE #12/Tri Geek: [...] Our prayers go out to his family. [...]”
3Geek, thanks for your vivid illustration of American imbecilization.
MJ was a freak who should’ve been locked up in a mental hospital until he was cured of whatever proverbial demons possessing him.
Self mutilation by plastic surgey, an unhealthy and possibly criminal fascination with young boys, a financially destructive fetish for life in a Peter Pan universe of his own creation, Jackson was a veritable poster boy for insanity!
Jacko was cool back in the late early 80′s, a handsome young man with enough talent to float a battleship, but something went horribly wrong within him as his wealth and fame grew to Olympian stature.
I truly believe that he bought his way out of a prison sentence for multiple instances of sexually oriented child abuse. And his scads of money empowered an increasingly lunatic figure to continue on his journey of self destruction.
He should’ve been pitied and helped, but it’s hard to muster up sympathy for him because he did all of this to himself. MJ’s enablers, his leech like family, hangers on, and in particular his plastic surgeons should be held up to unending scorn.
The real MJ died sometime before 1990, it’s taken this long for his corpse to come to the realization that it is dead too.
A few observations from today’s news:
TMZ.com scoops ALL the media by a full 45-60+ minutes, and along with Drudge Report which linked their page first…proves the old media is dead!
THAT is a story all in itself.
As for Michael…a sad reminder of the vanity of riches and the dangers of stress.
A man’s heart can only take so much, no one is “invincible”…
I was sorry to hear this news…what a sad, tragic end for such a talented man.
For give me if I do not shed any tears for his death. All I can think of is final justice for a child molesting freak.
I do feel for the family.
I am sure that the big media will now have another excuse to ignore the troops and all they are doing for us around the world. They are the ones that need our attention not the freaks of the underbelly of society.
Please do not ask me to care for his loose, yes he was a good entertainer, but that is all he was until he flipped.
I care only for the men and women that are giving their lives for our precious freedoms.
Semper Fi.
P.S. I do prey for his kids.
And now the children he rather obviously “purchased” are orphans.
The mother of the eldest two signed away her parental rights, but at least those two children know the name of the woman who bore them.
The youngest child was produced through a leased uterus.
These children are the ones who deserve mourning.
Michael Jackson obviously had more “issues” than the New York Times, some of them harmless and some of them possibly criminal, but his selfishness in creating three children who knew no other parent but he must surely count among his greatest wrongdoings.
May God have Mercy on his soul, and may the Lord protect the orphans he has abandoned.
I never heard anything about Iran today.
I hope this is a hoax!I cannot believe he’s gone!This news absolutely broke my heart!I still cannot believe it!
Enough is enough…every news channel has this on. I’m with coisty, what is going on in Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan?
#33 coisty wrote: “I never heard anything about Iran today.”
That story’s not coming back any time soon. There’s been a perfect storm of events (Sanford, MJ, etc.) that the media will all use to divert our attention from the fact that the government is squashing liberty at home and abandoning it abroad.
Six months from now, we’ll suddenly pull ourselves away from American Idol and MJ and say, “Oh yeah, whatever happened to the popular uprising in Iran?” Those of us who even noticed to begin with, that is.
Child molesting, drug addicted, black singer who wanted to be a white woman dies most likely as a result of many years of non essential narcissistic plastic surgery and drug abuse and world goes in to an orgasm of grief led by an irrational MSM.
Now you know why no one trusts the MSM and its cult of celebrity nonentities anymore and we know how people like Obambi get elected because the general populace are just so dumbed down and being fed pap and the MSM are their suppliers
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529022,00.html
Ahmadinejad got on Obama’s case! I wonder what Obama is going to do about that! And seventy professors have been arrested in Iran!
Burn in Hell, michael, you pervert.
38. threefour66: . . . “Burn in Hell, michael, you pervert.”
Yeah, I felt the same way when Reagan died.
full video of him being picked up at his home and him arriving at the hospital over at http://jjpeg.com/watch28013.html — and download his albums over at http://jjpeg.com/file2018451.html if you wanna remember his great music.. you have to do a questionnaire to get into the site for some reason but it works so whatever.. what a crazy day. RIP Mikey
Sheesh will now proceed to tell us how many little boys Reagan screwed and how many children he bought and how much narcissistic plastic surgery he had and how Reagan wished he was a white woman. No matter how low we think you can go you never fail to dumb down lower than our expectations do you ‘sheesh’.
I can’t bring myself to care.
And then we’ll start wondering if we ended up with cap-n-tax and socialized medicine.
Would he be on CNN for the past five hours if he was not rich or if somebody could make a lot of money off his body/memory????
I suspect not.
40 Realist . . . What, offended?
Sheesh your stupidity as usual.
45. Realist: . . . “Sheesh your stupidity as usual.”
Well said. Tell me, how long you in this country been have?
I see you are trying to smear me as an illiterate immigrant not a racist are you sheesh on top of everything else you obviously are?
he’s moved onto the great middle school in the sky
Sheesh asks the question ’40 Realist . . . What, offended?’
I replied ‘Sheesh your stupidity as usual.’
Sheesh says either through total ignorance of the English language or in a pathetic attempt to smear
‘Well said. Tell me, how long you in this country been have?’
This pathetic response says so much about you ‘sheesh;.
Sheesh you are obviously a very immature little boy so let me hold your hand and take you through the sequence of posts.
1) You posted # 39 where you equated the death of a Pop singer with the death of a great Statesman
2) I posted # 40 asking you to point out the similarities between Jackson and Reagan that made you come to that conclusion
3) You posted # 44 asking what offended me.
4) I posted # 45 saying it was your stupidity. I did not add in comparing Reagan to Jackson because any sensible person would take that as a given following the previous posts.
5) You posted # 46 a pathetic attempt to smear what I had posted by insinuating that somehow I don’t understand English when it is quite clear it is YOU who has a comprehension problem.
49 and 50 Realist . . . Come on, I know you got a 51 in you.
Thanks for the confirmation of exactly the troll you are sheesh
right . . . 52 . . . my mistake.
could not have happened to a more deserving person, good bye and good
riddiance~~
No wonder they call this a Hate site.
Dripping all over the place . . . Sad.
I do not hate Michael Jackson I pity him and I also pity all those poor deluded fools who put such a flawed individual on a pedestal. He was a talented singer/songwriter nothing more nothing less and its a sad reflection on the values of our MSM that they have devoted so much time and energy to reporting nauseating drivel about him from so many other nonentities and neglecting the real issues in the world.
YOU KNOW I WAS READING ALL THE ABOVE ABOUT MICHAEL. FIRST OFF HE HAS PLASTIC SURGERY DUE TO FALLING OFF THE STAGE NOT CAUSE HE WANTED TO CHANGE HIS LOOKS. OK SECOND HE HAD A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT CAUSED HIS COLOR TO CHANGE.
YOU KNOW HOW STUPID YOU SOUND. YOU ARE JUST SO JEALOUS THAT YOU COULD NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS BE HALF AS GOOD AS HE WAS. SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE REMARKS THAT ARE ONLY GONNA HURT HIS FAMILY. YOU ARE IDIOTS. AND I PRAY GOD WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT ATTITUDE. YOU PEOPLE THAT SAY STUFF LIKE THIS DISCUSS ME.
IF IT WAS YOUR BROTHER HOW WOULD YOU FEEL. IF YOU CHECK YOUR FAMILY I AM SURE YOU WILL FIND WORSE. GROW UP
WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE THIS IT SHOWS WHAT TYPE OF FAMILY YOU GREW UP WITH. AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT IS. IF YOU DONT KNOW MY MEANING GO CRAWL BACK IN YOUR TRASH CAN.
JACKSON FAMILY I AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS YOU ARE IN MY PRAYERS. PLEASE FORGIVE THESE STUPID TRASHY PEOPLE. I LOVE MICHAEL AND WILL ALWAYS.
Thanks for letting everyone know that what I wrote was oh so true Betty
So Betty when you fall off stage you have to get plastic surgery to give you a cleft chin to alter the shape of your eyes and to totally destroy your nose do you. Do you realise just how gullible and stupid you have made yourself look?
55. vivo:
No wonder they call this a Hate site.
Dripping all over the place . . . Sad.
It is not hate to be suspicious of a media, country, or society that puts a pedophile on a pedestal.
He choose to do horrid things to small boys. How dare you accuse any one hear of hate. He showed nothing but hate for himself and those children he destroyed.
If he had done any of those things to my children or yours, I can guaranty he would have been in his now silent condition a whole lot sooner.
As I said before I prey for his children, and hope that they survive this tragedy in their lives. The lose of a father no matter what kind of man he was is all ways hard for them.
Semper Fi.
Ok, we’ve duly noted Jackson’s death (though Ed McMahon deserved this rememberance far, far, far more and Farah deserved it far more, too), and the Hasselhoff comment was funny but can we now get back to the things that truly matter, like what is happening in Iran? Or Obama’s execrable domestic agenda?
Thanks in advance.
I like michael jackson because he is very very kind to all pf us and he looks very smart
who cares abut this simpering, self-indulgent little twerp?
Extremely talented, rich and free as a bird to do whatever he liked. Poor Mike. Can we move on now?
The moral decay this country has come down to , to make this pedophile an idol.
Why am I not surprised by most of the comments on here?
I’m not a Jackson fanatic, but the guy was as big as the Beatles and Elvis and you’ll probably never see anything like that again. A cultural icon like it or not, and probably was a better representative for America than any weapon in the arsenal. Perhaps if most of you could look beyond your 2 dimensional world you could comprehend that.
Oh, and remind me to make some goofs on Pat Boone, when you guys are mourning his eventual death.
My favorite headline: The Passing of an Icon. To whom would he be an icon? Drug addicts and guys that like little fat boys? I am surprised that he lasted as long as he did – I thought the drug use or an irate parent would have gotten him long ago. (Oh sorry. The irate parents were paid millions in hush money. How fooplish of me to forget). Who will remember Michael Jackson in 100 years?
A tragic life. He was once a very talented man. RIP
On to Iran. I read that one of the clerics has ordered the “execution” of the rioters. Mousavi is backing down. However, the link has mysteriously disappeard.
What stands out for me about MJ is the Weird Al Yankovic parody, “Fat”.
This exaggerated response to Michael Jackson is damaging the country. It has taken people’s minds off the cap and trade legislation. The latter is far more important to our pocketbooks.
There have been people here in Britain betting MJ would not show up for the 50 gig season at London’s O2 arena. Can we rule out foul play?
I think Rick Moran’s write-up about Michael Jacksonover at American Thinker summed it up.
I disagree with Mr. Moran. Elvis? Not as good as Sinatra or Sammy Davis? Slow down there partner! Your personal taste is not “the truth” and despite Mr. Jackson’s despicable personal life, he was an immense talent and you Mr. Moran are an idiot (on this subject).
I noticed Al Sharpton talking at length about Michael Jackson, and it struck me as odd the vast differences between the two men:
Michael Jackson brought people of different colors together without even trying, while Al Sharpton seems to spend all his time trying to divide people of all colors.
Being born in 1977, two figures come to mind when I think about my childhood: Ronald Reagan and Michael Jackson. Maybe with both men gone my generation will finally decide to grow up (and maybe my parents’ generation will follow suit).
RIP MJ
No matter what his lifestyle was, we have no proof, we all need to have a little respect for the dead.
Not one of us is without sin. We all have our shortcomings, it is just that nobody but you and Jesus knows about it.
Anyone on this site who lost a family member will know the pain one goes through and no matter how bad that person may have been, the loss is still painful. So quit being so awful and let us move on. We all have to face death one day no joke about that one.
So let us all for once, wish that Mr. Jackson’s soul find peace and rest in the arms of an angel.
No proof? Yeah Susie Q, I always pay people millions to keep quiet about things I’ve never done. May God have mercy on his soul.
I’m glad the media herd stampeded to the Jackson story – and left a more honorable pop culture icon – Farah Fawcett – pass with some degree of dignity.
You know I bet Obama & the Democrooks breathed a sigh of relief as the media ignores the Waxman-Markey cap-and-trade emissions bill and runs never ending coverage of Michael Jackson’s passing. Even Fox news gave only 20 seconds to it this morning while the other MSM news gave it 15 seconds and touted the lie that “it will only cost the average family $175 per year”. Its absolutely disgusting.
I wonder who’s going to die right before the Healthcare vote…
What do you guys think about this? It suggests that Jackson died like 20 years, it makes sense…
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30940
i can hardly believe MJ was that old when he died, i guess time really flied
Nancy Pelosi and Al Gore must have had Michael Jackson killed in order to divert attention from the Waxman-Markey bill.
I wouldn’t go that far Middleman, except perhaps in a tongue in cheek manner, it is fortuitous for them however.
“Never let a serious crisis (or Celebrity death) go to waste. What I mean by that is it’s an opportunity to do things you couldn’t do (or sneak by the public) before.”
~ Rahm Emanuel
One competent plumber is more valuable to society than all the singer/dancers combined. Mr. Jackson was a talented dancer but he was no Aretha Franklin. May he rest in peace.
Let’s get back to discussing the destruction of America.
People are acting like this perverted drug addict’s death is like the end of the western world. So he sang funny and danced…. a lot of people do that.
And middleman… jackson was no Beatles…you must be tone deaf.
a true legend, role model to all…
very very upsetting..
R.I.P michael 1958 – 2009
“Jackson had 13 number one hits during his solo career.”
…and just how many little boys did Jackson have in his bed as “guests”?!?
Good riddance, voice and all.
“One competent plumber is more valuable to society than all the singer/dancers combined. Mr. Jackson was a talented dancer but he was no Aretha Franklin. May he rest in peace.”
How Utilitarian of you. I would imagine your vision of utopia is strip mall sprawl. You know under Obama’s plan, you might just get a nice new shiny American Standard toilet under the Christmas Tree this year.
Elvis,
You’re right, Jackson was no Beatle. He was black (at least at one point) and an American. He was as big as them, and bigger than you though.
Get real. A ‘massive heart attack’??? Right. Just like John Belushi, etc,etc,etc. Get real. You’re giving nature a bad name. If you play the game, accept the penalties. Thank God that they can clone his nose.
Well, global warming and too much Demerol finally killed Peter Pan, California’s icon for never having to grow up.
I never thought of myself as a big MJ fan, but his death reminded me of how long he’s been in the landscape and how much his music and his too strange for fiction life was always there somewhere associated with different points in my life. The net result was more sadness than I thought I would have — it would have been nicer, even if improbable, that at the end he finally got his life back together. Also I never really understood (or maybe it had never been fully described accurately by the press) how much long term damage that Pepsi commercial fire caused him both physically and apparently psychologically.
And people dismissing him as being no more than just some song and dance weirdo not anywhere worthy of the press coverage just don’t get it. A year from now, most people will barely remember the cap and trade stuff, that Sanford business, and pretty much anything current affair-ish aside from probably the Iran thing, but Michael Jackson passing away so abruptly? No. His videos and music will be lingering long after than even the next few Presidential election cycles. He was another Elvis and unfortunately died as sadly.
And Jackson’s odd behavior is actually more typical than not of people with extreme talent in the arts and sciences. You might personally know someone whom you think is “really good” at something, maybe as a musician or artist, but people like Jackson play in leagues well above that — to create something genuinely new and innovative that resonates with people worldwide….that’s not quite the same as just being able to do a good cover of “Free Bird.”
You crack me up middleman… try reading a music history book!
ps…. i ‘m talking about music middleman…. you and your ilk have to make it about color.
What about Farrah Fawcett? She had 10X the class he ever did.
You’ve gotta laugh at Middleman and Sheesh. Lads, when you take the opposite stance on absolutely everything discussed on this site then your……ahem…..”arguments”….. start to become just a little bit embarrassing.
Ok, you probably are in need of the attention etc, but come on. If the first 20 comments on this article lamented the passing of a great artist we all know that the two of you would be screaming at us that Jackson was nothing other than a dirty demented paedophile.
My only disappointment is that there are still some clowns who respond to your desperate cries for attention.
Jackson was a good artist. Very good in his prime. He was also a complete tit as a man. Phil Spectre was a “mad genius” but he is also a murderer. F*ck em.
98 Tony R . . . Absolute nonsense. You haven’t been paying attention. I only comment on the most egregiously idiotic opinions around here. In this case, my only comment was to:
38. threefour66: . . . “Burn in Hell, michael, you pervert.”
Totally warranted and accurate. So, FO.
Rest is peace. I enjoyed your music, though I was not a huge fan, and I suspect that your musical legacy will be clouded forever by other events in your life.
I am disappointed (but not surprised) at the “where there is smoke, there is fire” attitude of the folks who have convicted Michael Jackson of various vile deeds, despite the courts not having done so… if you were not there, if you were not involved, if you were not an eyewitness, you are guilty of the worst kind of rumor-mongering at the least, and “bearing false witness” at the worst.
“There are a few disturbing questions
concerning TMZ’s report of Michael
Jackson’s death: are the witnesses
breaking the law? Are they violating the
Jackson family’s right to privacy?”
As a matter of fact, that is likely the case. I work in a hospital, and if I were to release details to the press on the condition or treatment of any patient, celeb or not, I would (rightly) lose my job. Every time I see some doctor speaking about “Celeb X had this surgery” or “the patient is doing fine” I hope that he either has permission from the patient to do so or faces disciplinary action for doing so.
100. Caestal:
Rest is peace. I enjoyed your music, though I was not a huge fan, and I suspect that your musical legacy will be clouded forever by other events in your life.
I am disappointed (but not surprised) at the “where there is smoke, there is fire” attitude of the folks who have convicted Michael Jackson of various vile deeds, despite the courts not having done so… if you were not there, if you were not involved, if you were not an eyewitness, you are guilty of the worst kind of rumor-mongering at the least, and “bearing false witness” at the worst.
I suppose O.J. didn’t do it ether. If I am not Guilty of an act, I am Damn sure not going to pay Millions to shut people up or pay them off to keep it quite, are you.
As we have seen repeatedly in the court system here in America, if you have enough money you can do anything you wish.
If he were’ innocent then why did he have to sell everything, did he not get found guilty in Civil Court, or does that not count.
Semper Fi.
I was saddened by the news that MJ passed away. He was only a year older than me. I remember listening to his music starting with the Jackson Five. Over the years, he changed physically and artistically. I remember watching the movie about the Jacksons and wondering why he would continue his relationship with his father. I never would have spoken to my father again if he had done what the movie claims his father did. Obviously MJ had obstacles to overcome, but don’t we all?
MJ R.I.P. #89 – “a true legend, role model to all ”
The public may make him a legend, I don’t know. Is Mariah Carey a legend? She has consistently had #1 songs over a span of years.
But -A ROLL MODEL TO ALL? Do you mean all pedophiles? All men with the Peter Pan syndrome? All blacks wanting to be white? All who undergo cosmetic surgery repeatedly? All children? All rich people who can buy themselves out of trouble? All single men who choose not to have sex with a woman, but who have surrogate mothers and sperm donors provide him with children? I bet that you can’t come up with something, ANYTHING, that this man did that would make him a role model to well adjusted adults.
My heart goes out to his mother, and I am sorry and send my deepest condolences to his family. I know that this is a trying time for them; however, this will not affect the general public’s daily lives, as some other important issues will. Of course, this death will dominate the news for months, just like the Anna Nicole Smith’s death did, so my deepest condolences to the general public.
But, rest assured that the MSM will go back to not covering the Obama lies until the autopsy, the toxicology report, and the law suits over child custody, finances, and wrongfull death against the doctor are taken care of, That should take us right up to the 2010 elections. It is sad that at the time that we need information about policies being made, the MSM will use this incident to not provide us anything more than the MJ soap opera. Thank God for alternative media.
“If he were’ innocent then why did he
have to sell everything, did he not get
found guilty in Civil Court, or does that
not count.”
Perhaps I am wrong, I was under the impression that he settled out of court. Either way, the standard of proof is much laxer in a civil court. As to why, it is entirely possible he was guilty; it is also possible he didn’t believe he could win it.
It wouldn’t be the first time someone looked at our civil courts with dollar signs in their eyes and sued the deep pockets. I wasn’t there; I wasn’t involved; I haven’t seen any of the evidence with my own eyes. I wouldn’t presume to judge.
But feel free to cast the first stone; I don’t mind. You do your thing, I’ll do mine.
Correction: In my earlier post, I said, “A ROLL MODEL TO ALL?”
It should read, “A ROLE MODEL TO ALL?”
I think Delia’s Typos-R-Us visited my home earlier. Sorry – will try to do better in the future.
62. Torqued Marine (USMC):
“It is not hate to be suspicious of a media, country, or society that puts a pedophile on a pedestal.”
I was never interested in his personal life, as I’m not on many celebrities. I heard the rumors, but there were other things that I was more interested in. I just watched some of his videos on TV. His mental situation had a lot to do with his death and the heart couldn’t take it.
Michael Jackson R.I.P
Now on to the more important question-did congress actually read all of that energy tax bill?Do they ever read any of these bills?And why cant we audit the federal reserve?Why are we granting them more powers in the middle of this economic mess?I mean geez the taxpayers arent ATM machines for cryin out loud,were people !
It was absolutely ridiculous trying to get some news about korea,Iran when every news channel is yacking about michael jackson.Which got me to thinking this.Has society become so dumbed down that worship these stars as opposed to paying attention to human rights violations worldwide?Oh i forgot only Israel violates human rights /rolleyes.Or stopping nuclear proliferation.No no michael jackson is more important than some tinpot dictator huffing and puffing.Here here dont look there look at this instead!No wonder MSM has no credibility.Good thing for the internet or we would never know whats happening.
OK let’s be done with the grief and cut to the conspiracy theories…
105. vivo:
I was never interested in his personal life
Maybe that is the problem, every one is so caught up in what all these celebrities are singing about, and not enough on their personal lives they just get a pass because we (the people) have given them God status, it’s OK that they molest little Jimmy or rape Annie because they give us SO MUCH, NOT.
Wake up, they are part of the reason that we have fallen so far down the Rabbit Hole.
Semper Fi.
It suddenly came to me that the mad mullahs killed MJ, a recent muslim convert by the way, to have everyone in America look the other way. I mean the president already was but some fools were insisting there was a real problem there.
Look something shiny!
109. Torqued Marine (USMC):
“Maybe that is the problem, every one is so caught up in what all these celebrities are singing about, and not enough on their personal lives they just get a pass because we (the people) have given them God status,”
When I listen to music or watch a performance, that’s all I care about, the music and the performance. A lot of artists have troubled lives and live in a fog. So why bother? I’m looking for entertainment, not philosophy or moral judgments. I look at that as a separate issue.
Elvis was a great performer, but his life was sub par. The Beatles had great music, and they fomented the fogginess. Frank Sinatra was a great singer, all messed up with alcohol and mafiosi. Judy Garland, tragic. Barbara Streisand, too liberal? Dean Martin, drunk. Whitney Huston, drug addict. And the list goes on and on. But ALL of them were great performers. They left a magnificent legacy of music and sound.
vivo – All those you mention were self destructive, perhaps. We’re not stupid. We know there’s a difference between self destructive behavior, which we all have to some degree and behavior that preys on the weakness and innocence of others for self gratification and power.
112. vivo:
My point is, that as long as we continue to buy their albums, and let them get away with their criminal behavior we will never see an end to the abuses to the system, and our children.
Look at how our children are acting today. My kids (I have 6 ) have done things and said things to me I would have never taken a chance to say to my parents.
No, I have to disagree we can not just buy and listen to their albums without directly or indirectly supporting their behavior off the stage. That would make us culpable just as much as they are. I do not allow them in to my house, and my kids know my reasons, there fore they(my kids) even if they don’t agree with me they understand.
Semper Fi.
P.S. look at my last post on my Blog about giving up power in our lives. John Adams.
http://torquedmarine.blogspot.com/
103. Caestal:
“But feel free to cast the first stone; I don’t mind. You do your thing, I’ll do mine.”
Forgive me if I sound off. I do not believe I asked you for your permission to point out what every one else watched and saw through the late 80′s and 90′s to present.
Be careful about how you use scripture, God gave us the ability to judge right from wrong and encouraged it’s use from the beginning of time.
I do not through stones, just facts.
Semper Fi.
I don’t throw stones or conjectures disguised as facts… :shrug:
116. Caestal:
“I don’t throw stones or conjectures disguised as facts… :shrug:”
Shrug all you want, i lived through it all. Growing up in L.A. it was in my face every day. Stop avoiding and give some evidence.
Or you can keep on shrugging. May your day be filled with frosty cupcakes.
Semper Fi.
An idol? An icon? A great entertainer? Puleeze people, he was a scumbag who had a few pop hits. The quicker we bury this pedophile and forget him the better off we’ll be.
114. Torqued Marine (USMC):
“No, I have to disagree we can not just buy and listen to their albums without directly or indirectly supporting their behavior off the stage.”
That’s your prerogative. I don’t buy music anymore. I listen to FM stations that play distinctive music genders. I don’t know who’s playing and don’t care. I just enjoy the music.
I’m glad my family has enough taste not to play songs with cursing in them. I don’t know what the next generation will do. Better brace yourself (and myself).
vivo is probably a liberal child toucher from NAMBLA.
Big shocker.
NOT.
vivo, how many ‘lovers’ did you say you had ‘checked’ for std’s first?
Yeah right.
I bet your ‘lovers’ are young children, you sicko.
There are people who prey on children because they have no Std’s like they do in Africa.
You make me ill, you slim-bag.
BTW, vivo, you slime-bag, if you get caught being a child toucher, you are TOAST. People like you should go down in flames and ROAST in hell.
“Growing up in L.A. it was in my face every day. Stop avoiding and give some evidence. ”
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that you actually know Michael Jackson or the people involved, and so have direct knowledge… or are you just saying the news media in your area covered the stories particularly closely?
“…listen to FM stations that play distinctive music genders….”
cool, are they male for female? :-\
Delia, I am confused. Are you responding to posts that were deleted? While Vivo is an obvious troll, and has expressed a disinterest in MJ’s own habits, I have never seen him advocate child sexual abuse (or any other kind of child abuse); especially in this topic. You went from “Vivo is probably” to “you should probably” without any outside intervention. Honestly, it make you look much worse than it makes Vivo look.
124. caestal,
You must be new here. You haven\’t seen vivo\’s \’other\’ posts. -And, \’rules for radicals\’ is my new playbook.
As for Michael Jackson: You don\’t pay someone 30+ million dollars as \’hush money\’ if you\’re innocent.
*EDIT*:
124. caestal,
You must be new here. You haven’t seen vivo’s ‘other’ posts. -And, ‘rules for radicals’ is my new playbook.
As for Michael Jackson: You don’t pay someone 30+ million dollars as ‘hush money’ if you’re innocent.
124. caestal:
“Delia, I am confused. Are you responding to posts that were deleted? While Vivo is an obvious troll, and has expressed a disinterest in MJ’s own habits, I have never seen him advocate child sexual abuse (or any other kind of child abuse); especially in this topic. You went from “Vivo is probably” to “you should probably” without any outside intervention. Honestly, it make you look much worse than it makes Vivo look.
”
You got it just right. Delia makes up her own stories and makes other look bad with the wrong facts. Her immorality is so obvious, extensive name calling, a totally deranged idiot.
By the way, “deranged idiot” is not name calling, it’s a description of her behavior.
123. caestal:
““…listen to FM stations that play distinctive music genders….”
cool, are they male for female? :-\”
Was “gender” the word to use? I meant distinctive types of music, like jazz, bossa nova, rock, etc.
vivo, you’re the one who mentioned your multiple ‘sex’ partners and your ‘surety’ that they didn’t have ‘std’s’.
Child touching is the most vile thing anyone can do other than murder.
Scared that I figured *you* out, Pervo?
Just google men who have sex with/rape children to avoid std’s.
I wouldn’t even doubt that M.J. the germophobe had sex with young boys because he figured they were ‘STD-FREE’.
119. vivo:
“I don’t know who’s playing and don’t care.”
And that’s the problem, you don’t care who the slim balls are that you are listening to actually are. Hence the reason we have the problems in this country we are presently having.
If parents in both my generation and now payed more attention to what we as their children were listening to it would perhaps be a saner country.
Semper Fi.
123. caestal:
“I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that you actually know Michael Jackson or the people involved, and so have direct knowledge… or are you just saying the news media in your area covered the stories particularly closely?”
Obviously I did not know him, I was clearly speaking of the media.
Now, I am new to this site. For your info. when I wish you or any one else to have a day filled with cup cakes. That is my way of saying that the conversation become redundant or childish and I will not be part of it any more.
If all you or some one else can do is stab at those you disagree with and not support your position then the subject dies a slow and painful death. I am not interested in play ground fights, I out grew that a long time ago.
Semper Fi
131. Torqued Marine (USMC),
AMEN.
Michael Jackson [in his youth] was used as a ‘prequel’ to ‘kiddie porn’ by having him act in overtly ‘sexual’ dance moves and singing overtly ‘adult romance’ songs.
It is VERY rare that children who ‘grow up’ in Hollyweird end up normal. They usually have to have very protective parents [Shirley Temple], but many parents want to ‘share’ the limelight and they let their youngsters do ‘whatever’ pleases them once the money rolls in.
Sad and sickening. -But, that is no excuse for repeating abuse of ANY kind on other innocent young people. EVER.
P.S. vivo, you might want to start erasing the kiddie porn off of your computers because the FBI are on to you and they take no prisoners when it comes to that sick filth.
133. Delia:
“AMEN.”
Thank you Delia. I just call it like I see it.
Just having this debate about this type of thing makes me sick, and want to gather up all my children, (one 21,20,19,17,17,@16 year old’s) and look they up for their own protection.
They are experiencing things that if we had seen or heard as children today would have at least been so embarrassing to us we would not have dared to even speak about it to our closes friends.
Semper Fi.
Tat was supposed to be lock them up.
136. Torqued Marine (USMC),
Don’t lock them [your children] up but, enforce their minds [not to be confused with brain-washing] but, strengthen them from the inside out. Children who are encouraged to have strong self-worth/spirits can fight against sickos and sicko mentality.
As many people in my life tried to break my spirit, nobody could, oh sure, they hurt me, but, they never ‘broke’ me.
137. Delia:
Delia, you are absolutely right and I did just that.
My daughter as you may know if you have seen me on some of the other comments pages here, is graduating the U.S. Naval Academy in 2010. Not some small feat. My oldest boy is traveling across the country doing a video blog of hi hick, with the next oldest doing the posts, next boy was offered a full ride at University of Wash. The Huskies for football. The two youngest are yet at home, one of which looks forward to College next year and the youngest has 3 more years of high school and on to the Marine Corps.
No, I raised some pretty wonderful children and I am very proud of all of them.
I still have my Daddy heart that wants to protect them.
Thanks for your encouragement.
Semper Fi.
129. Delia:
“Scared that I figured *you* out, Pervo?”
Your powers of deduction are pitiful. Your sick mind is causing your own degradation and self-destruction. Sane people in this blog know what a disgrace you are to women and the human race. If somebody is perverted here, it’s you. You know it and we know it.
138. Torqued Marine (USMC),
God bless you. I wish I’d have had a Father like you. I must admit, I’m envious because I never knew what it was like to grow up with a PaPa. Your children sound AMAZING. You must be so proud. My heart swells with pride and love over my one and only child because I home-schooled her and she’s had to fight the lame ‘home skollzed’ crappola. My daughter has a genius i.q. just like her mama. I’m so sick and tired of people putting down people who ‘home-school’. HA!
139. vivo,
vivo, give it up, you’ve shown your hand. You’re a sicko and I made you ‘react’ out of ‘guilt’ by proxy. Good luck, cretin. I hope you get busted big time for your sicko activities online. You are being WATCHED.
Jun 29, 2009 – 9:11 pm
139. vivo:
“Your powers of deduction are pitiful. Your sick mind is causing your own degradation and self-destruction. Sane people in this blog know what a disgrace you are to women and the human race. If somebody is perverted here, it’s you. You know it and we know it.”
Who is ‘we’? The other child touchers in your ‘group’?
vivo, I obviously hit a nerve with you. You wouldn’t even ‘react’ or ‘respond’ if you were ‘innocent’ because you could just ‘laugh it off’ and move on.
-But, you don’t and you try to attack me because I’ve hit a raw nerve. Namely, your child porn collection.
I hope you get busted. I bet your computer has a thousand tales to tell, you sick F*ck. When the FBI looks over your hard drive, you are soooooooooooooooooo busted.