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July 25, 2014 - 8:57 am
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A plan to evaluate refugee status for Hondurans in Honduras currently makes the rounds in D.C. – apparently backed by some in the Obama administration, it resembles a recent bill from Senators John McCain and Jeff Flake of Arizona. The idea is to protect people, especially youth and children, from a dangerous trek across coyote-infested lands.

No one knows the details of this plan to set up, in effect, refugee immigration kiosks in Honduras, and the White House says no decision has been made, but already there’s pushback. This raises the question: Do Republicans, conservatives and libertarians need to shoot it down immediately because…

1) It might increase immigration from Honduras, and

2) might spread to other countries, and/or

2) it’s backed by McCain and Obama?

After all, we’re talking about facilitating legal immigration, and this might keep potential immigrants from piling up in U.S. border towns, jeopardizing public health and straining social services.

Regardless of the eventual shape of this plan, it’s time for folks on the Right to take the moral high ground on immigration. Oddly enough, if we’re serious about that, we’ll find that the issue isn’t immigration at all.

I know that even in whispering this, I may run afoul of my friends who think that it is the tide of immigrants — some unwilling to assimilate — that’s destroying our country. They’re stealing American jobs, or bearing contagions, including radical Islam. Seal the border.

Before our knees jerk in opposition to the latest proposal, we need to ask: Will the tide stop anytime soon under any plan which can actually pass Congress, and be implemented efficaciously?

No. The tide will stop when America stops being the beacon of liberty. I contend that one who wishes to stem the tide of immigration, inadvertently wishes American demise.

The New Colossus, by Emma Lazarus

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"Facilitating LEGAL immigration..."

That's a great idea. However, any plans circulating around Washington all seem to be based on the premise that "They're here, more are coming, there's nothing we can do about it, so we might as well just let everybody in."

Seriously. It sounds like Washington has literally given up on any form of border SECURITY or immigration CONTROL. The goal seems to be open borders. I'm not sure why that's supposed to be a good idea. Are there any other countries that practice an open-border policy? If so, how does it work for them?

Citizenship means nothing in this country. I guess since our ancestors came to here from someplace else, that means "everyone on the planet is an American - some of them just haven't arrived yet."
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You guys don't get it, our Lord and Savior, Barrack Obama, the Ultimate Imperial President, is silently conquering the whole World for us. You racists cannot possibly fathom the level of intellect required to author his Plan.

It's so brilliantly simple, you flood the homeland with aliens, secure the next 100 years of elections for your party through illegal votes, grant amnesty to the aliens. More aliens come, grant them citizenship immediately. Establish the 1-2-3-2-1 Rule: All first, second, and third generation immigrants are eligible for $3000, $2000, and $1000 per month from the Federal Government, respectively. The endless tide of huddled masses will be now be extraordinary. Now you can grant US citizenship to every person on the planet, so their welfare checks can simply be delivered to them sight unseen,with the stated goal of combatting overcrowding of the homeland. Congratulations, you have just established the United States of Earth.
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Scott, you fail to see the NEXT step in the criminal buffoonery of the left on this issue. Isn't it culturally offensive for them and imperially arrogant of us to continue to expect deserving illegal aliens from, actually, anywhere in the world, to make the lengthy and inconvenient trip to the US? Doesn't democrat fairness and concern for their children REQUIRE that we eliminate this onerous step and allow them to stay in place while we mail them the benefits to which they are entitled along with their voter registration cards and state driver's licenses?
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Kiosks? Are there no American embassies in South America? Isn't offering forms and other paperwork to do America's work (such as immigration applications) part of an embassy's role? But if people can continue to sneak over the border, why bother to apply for admission at embassies of "kiosks"?
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The only refugee crisis that I would think we should deal with and give amnesty to are the Christians in Iraq, that we left when B.O. told us that Iraq would be a jewel in his foreign policy legacy, and now are being told to convert, flee--with nothing but the clothes on thier backs or die.
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backed by B.O and McCain, that should be a non starter
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They don't currently qualify as refugees. Supposing we change our laws to give them the refugee status which they don't currently qualify for—will they return when whatever crisis is over? If they stay, will they assimilate and adopt traditional American values and customs? Or will they just be another victim class of people that can't seem to fit in and thrive in America? It isn't that we don't sympathize with their plight or want to help, we don't want yet more nice neighborhoods turning into impoverished ghettos because of poorly planned immigration/alien residency policies.

This "give them refugee status" seems to just be trading one set of problems for another.
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I have a son who lives in the back country of Belize. I have been to Belize at least a dozen times in the past dozen years. Listen to the story I have to tell. Belize has been overrun for the past twenty years by immigrants/refugees from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvadore, the same countries that are now sending us their "huddled masses". Those refugees grew up in countries that have been ravaged by the civil wars of the 1970's, 80s, and 90's - thirty years - a generation - of retail violence, spread across villages so remote there are not even roads to them. They are now being overrun by drug runners , and their governments and social institutions have been virtually destroyed by corruption associated with drug running (see Mary Anatasia O'Gradey's article in a recent Wall Street Journal about that subject.). So there is no law in the back country villages where the refugees come from, nor even in the streets of their cities, and murder is an everyday occurrence. It is part of their everyday conversation - I have heard it myself. I personally met a young Guatemalan man who knew of forty murders! in his own remote home village in the Peten. The murder rate in those countries is the highest in the world. The refugees that my son has hired are hard working, marvelously talented laborers. They are also lawless, criminal and violent. He no longer hires them for that reason, because he has a family to protect. My son is armed at all times. These are the same people who are now streaming across our southern border. They are not the same as Mexican illegals, with whom we are more familiar. The Mexicans certainly do not want them in their own country and are all too anxious to send them on to us. Reports from the border are that most of the so called "children" are teenagers. A teenager in Honduras is an adult and most likely already a gang member. Americans are not getting this information, and I think we need to know who we are dealing with. This invasion must be stopped.
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Good GRIEF. You can find articles along this line in a variety of liberal-leaning publications; I'm surprised to see one here.

Before proceeding with any discussion or details of such a plan let's just calculate the cost per U.S. citizen per year. We have probably 30 million or so illegals now and 320 million total residents so for each $10,000 in annual cost of an illegal that's something north of $1000 per person or around $2500 per family.

It's tough to do this accurately but some ingredients are: In some areas total welfare payments can come close to $60,000/year for a family.

Many illegal immigrants do work and they pay at least sales taxes; some also pay income-based taxes. But many remit part of their income out of the country so there's no multiplier effect.

Many illegals displace a citizen from a job; that citizen may need public assistance as a result. Many others work in illegal businesses -- drugs and sex -- which have additional costs.

It's impossible to assign a cost to the consequences of millions of new Democratic voters. We should note, however, that we're dealing with THIS ISSUE because of too many Democratic votes in 2008 and 2012.

Ditto the consequences of substantial non-assimilable groups. Coming without skills, without a requirement to learn and accept our culture, and with a near guarantee of living near the bottom of the ladder with many others in the same situation, hatred of America and Americans is a near certainty. Now it's marches and hard words ... five or ten years from now in areas that are majority-minority or near it, who knows?

The costs of illegal immigration show up in many places and while a total isn't easy to figure, it's a substantial part of our national expense. There's no reason to think that these costs are one-time, even within a span of a generation or so.

This cannot be fixed simply by making the illegal, legal. It is a consequence of admitting more than a very small number of unskilled, non-working (mothers with young children and children) persons, and criminals.

You can talk about the details of how legalization is done until you're blue: It will make no difference. We ALREADY HAVE quotas for legal immigration by persons judged to be economically beneficial.

A modern welfare state CANNOT HAVE open borders. It doesn't matter what you think morality, shining city status, (or whatever), demands: It simply isn't possible. If -- as now appears possible -- we ignore that and open the borders anyhow, then we lose the welfare state as part of economic collapse. The good news will be that the illegals mostly go home, the other news is that the rest of us will have to live in the rubble because we ARE at home.

The entire discussion of the invasion over our southern border is depressing not JUST because it comes from a lawless president but because the screamingly obvious needs to be said repeatedly.
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No country that cares for its citizens and own survival ignores it's sovereignty. The United States has the most generous legal immigration system in the world yet... you feel this is still not enough? Do you feel importing more people will stem the tide? Hmmm, yes we will lose our Liberty continuing this path. Ridiculous article.
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#3. Anything from any of those three is intended to cement their elite status and our peasant status.
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Don't refugees leave their own country to escape persecution by their own govt.? What has the Honduran govt. done to their citizens to make them flee their country? Why do we not protest and stop them from expelling their own people? Why can't the Jews do the same, send their Arab citizens to Obamaland as refugees?
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They are talking about broadening the definition of "refugee" so that these Hondurans qualify.
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Well, then...
Why don't we just run Central America like a colonial plantation? They obviously don't have the slightest idea how to operate a modern country: their crime rate is through the roof, their economies are indistinguishable from a barter system, their living conditions are abhorrent and their politics are corrupt to the extreme. If they all were put to work for Chiquita Banana, White Owl Cigars and the Panama Hat Company they would be fully employed, well paid, their lives would have organization and positive purpose and their society would be much more peaceful and rewarding.
(Do you say I'm hateful, that my ideas are racist and grossly offensive to Central Americans? They WHY do they all want to leave their homes to come to the United States???)
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