I’d like to think it was another case of that cliché about great minds, etc. … (I don’t believe I qualify, but I think my friend Roger Kimball does) … but when I woke up Sunday and saw Roger had written about George Soros on Roger’s Rules, I thought, sonofabeehiver, he stole my subject. I was about to write about Soros.
So I censored myself for a few hours, but I am going forward because there is more than enough to say about George Soros, especially now, more than enough for one person, even one as wise as Kimball. In fact, were I a biographer — an occupation for which I have nowhere near the patience or perspicacity — Soros would be my first choice for a subject. He is a paradigmatic figure for our times, a kind of a monster created in the twentieth century, inexorably metastasizing into the twenty-first.
Now I realize monster is a big word to call someone and I don’t use it lightly. It’s just the one that comes to mind — there is something almost inhuman about Soros.
Most of us know him as the multi-billionaire financier of ultra-liberal causes (love them or leave them) whose fortune, ironically, comes from currency speculation — the “man who broke the Bank of England” during the 1992 British pound currency crisis. Never mind that thousands lost their pensions in the process. It’s the breaks of the game — capitalism as practiced by a quondam anti-captialist.
But that’s far from the most troubling thing about Soros. What disturbs most is something you will not read about in his Wikipedia entry, except in the most veiled manner. Soros — who appears in the right-hand column of that entry as a “Hungarian American” and an “atheist” — is a Hungarian Jew who, when 14 at the height of the Holocaust, was, well… no Anne Frank.
The Ottawa Sun‘s Ezra Levant, quoted by Kimball, puts it succinctly:
To survive, George, then a teenager, collaborated with the Nazis.
First he worked for the Judenrat. That was the Jewish council set up by the Nazis to do their dirty work for them. Instead of the Nazis rounding up Jews every day for the trains, they delegated that murderous task to Jews who were willing to do it to survive another day at the expense of their neighbours.
Theodore [his father] hatched a better plan for his son. He bribed a non-Jewish official at the agriculture ministry to let George live with him. George helped the official confiscate property from Jews.
Well, okay, you’re thinking — he was fourteen. Give the guy a break. And I must admit that I — a secular Jew like Soros — have occasionally speculated about how I would have behaved in similar circumstances. And, although in my fantasy I might be a noble resistance fighter, laying my life on the line against fascism the way Primo Levi and others have described it, I certainly have no way of knowing. I might have been a sleazy collaborator myself. But I do know this: if I had done something like that just to survive, it would have haunted me the rest of my days.
And here’s the really creepy part: not so George Soros. In a surprisingly overlooked interview with 60 Minutes‘ Steve Kroft, Soros denied guilt or second thoughts about his World War II activities.
From Levant again:
How does Soros feel about what he did as a teenager? Has it kept him up at night?
Steve Kroft of 60 Minutes asked him that. Was it difficult? “Not at all,” Soros answered.
“No feeling of guilt?” asked Kroft. “No,” said Soros. “There was no sense that I shouldn’t be there. If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”
Somebody else would have done it. Sound familiar? It’s just the kind of excuse you might use when devaluing the British pound. A psychoanalyst might call it “splitting,” taking a part of your personality and splitting it off, as if there were two disconnected parts of you — the monster and the good citizen. The good citizen provides a mask, a disguise for the monster to do his work.
Am I calling Soros a disturbed person? In probability, yes. A man with two sides who is all the more dangerous for having both.
Mr. Simon, you are right on the mark about Soros. He is an embarrassment to us Jews and he will be going to hell. There is no way he will go to heaven for his actions. I have known for a long time his God is the God of Money. It is not the living God of Abraham,Issac, and Jacob of Israel.
Mr. Soros is typical of the people on the loony left who cannot stand other points of view. Since they do not have the facts to back up what they say, then this is when they resort to their racist tactics to silence decent. It is a shame people on the left are not open to listening to new ideas and only want to shut you up when you outsmart them.
Nathan,
I am not a psychiatrist but I will play one as a blogger.
How many times have you heard someone say ” no one can hate a (Jew, Black, Catholic, ……)like one of their own?
Nihilist hate people for making them the bastards they are.
With Soros like Hitler, Stalin and other bloody tyrants it’s not much more complicated than that.
I will play amateur psychiatrist as well.
Soros is a psychotic sociopath. He is utterly without guilt, pity, mercy or remorse. Lying, cheating and destroying people are nothing to him. It’s all just a day’s work.
Soros is a particularly destructive sociopath because of his clever intelligence and his immense wealth. He will continue to destroy, as quickly and completely as possible, until he dies or until he runs out of money.
Soros just made $2.5 BILLION on some of his high finance – he can’t give it away fast enough to run out at the age of 80 – worse, he will leave his money to those pet organizations who will carry out his insanity. It needs to be stressed that Soros not only collaborated with the Nazis, but in an interview some years ago in Canada, he was asked about those days and he replied (and I paraphrase) it was a marvelous time for a young boy, exciting, dangerous, thrilling and he felt great joy for being there. I have researched him at great length and I say the following seriously and after considerable reflection – SOROS IS WORSE THAN HITLER – WHY? Because Hitler had a plan, a reason for cleansing his utopian society. It was a sick and perverted plan, but none the less, a plan. Soros has NO plan, no purpose other than to get more money. He does what he does for the joy of it – he feels nothing for those he ruins, those whose lives he destroys. It is all for the fun of it. He is void in all human feelings. And at the risk of sounding like a mad person (I am definitely not), I regard Soros as the Anti-Christ. Look into the eyes of Soros (and Obama) and you will see nothing there – blank darkness. Soros is totally committed to destroying America – for the joy of it – it would be his greatest accomplishment. He HATES Americans, America, Israel, Jews, Christians. It would take a book to detail all the evil that is Soros.
I believe it’s all a way to entertain himself. He has all of the money he could ever need, so what more can he do? He gets to sit in the shadows, like a god and control the world. A little tweak here, a little tweak there and he can bring nations to their knees. Another little trick he likes to play is the “giver”. After he destroys, he likes to be benevolent. He gives money away to make himself feel even more powerful. He creates the slave and then slightly lifts them up to make himself a god to the poor.
It’s a game. It’s fun for him, as he enjoys watching the “little” man squirm. Anyone who played with Nazis is evil through and through. He may be the Anti-Christ and Obama and company are his evil henchmen.
I find Hungary very much like Soros. Unabashed about its Nazi heritage, utterly untroubled by the almost complete absence of Jews. If you go to Eger in north eastern Hungary, you’ll find a number of Synagogues, a large Jewish cemetary and no Jews. Ask the locals, and the anomaly is of no interest whatsoever. Unlike Germany, where a great amount of soul-searching and history-teaching has taken place, Hungary seems to either ignore its murderous past, or secretly enjoy it.
And I find you, Andrew Lale, an ignorant person. Nazi heritage? Please f*** off. There was a Nazi German _occupation_ in Hungary with a puppet government. Now that’s what I call a nazi heritage, defining the whole nation.
As for the so-called “anomaly” you’ve mentioned, read this article (it’s about an hour old):
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/hungary-jews-rededicate-budapest-synagogue-after-50-years-1.312715
The Nazi occupation didn’t occur until late in 1944 when most of the Jews were dead. For most of the war Hungary was an enthusiastic Nazi ally, and when the results of that policy began to come home, the Nazis overthrew the Hungarian government that was having second thoughts, to assure continued enthusiasm for the lost cause.
RE Hitler and Nizis…let us not forget that MANY of America’s industrialists, millionaires and politicians joined forces in support of Hitler in the 30s. Most of the big names of our wealthiest businessmen were pro Hitler and his movement. They sent vast snums of money to support his efforts. Rockefeller, Dupont, and the list goes on and on – the same men who decided to asassinate FDR and replace him with their own group who felt they knew far better than FDR how to run this country. The Bush grandfather was among that group. They recruited a retired high ranking military officer who was to recruit 50,000 soldiers to storm DC – he eventually turned on the men and reported their activities to a Senator. A hearing was held, and all was hushed up. The men involved went about their business, amassing greater fortunes, with NO punishment for treason. They continued to fund Hitler until 41 (or thereabouts). NOT a pretty part of our history – shameful. And let it be noted that Rockefellers have perpetuated a socialist agenda for America ever since – all of them. They have been active in BIlderberg and Illuminati and David Rockefeller is today working to create one world govt. and establish the UN as the operational arm of that government.
I think you are being intentionally dishonest about this. In the 30′s everyone did business with Germany. Who could have predicted Hitlers eventual crimes. The trade was with German people and German companies. In retrospect was some of it misuesed by Hitler to further his goals? Surely that is true. But could these companies have foretold Hitlers intent? Very unlikely. Today American companies do business with countries whose leaders are as bad as Hitler (Zimbabwe for example). Should we not sell them food or buy goods and raw materials from them? Into you can get your crystal ball perfected I think it is a mistake to go back into history and accuse people of crimes based on what you know 70 years after the fact.
Google “IBM and the Holocaust” ad you will see a complete account of how CEO Watson and the company developed the Nazi Census which helped identify all Jews before they invaded Hungary, Yugoslavia, and other eastern European countries. This made the process of deportation, murder, and confiscation much more prganized and accurate. Short of that, the Holocaust Museum in DC has one of the tabulators recovered from Poland.
Uh, Ivan…
There are more polite, diplomatic ways to address Andrew’s error (as you see it).
(As I am not a regular visitor, if you two have a history, then just “play nice”.)
Hungary wasn’t For most of the war Hungary was an unenthousiastic German ally who was drawn into the conflict with Soviet Union when it fact it would have better liked to settle some scores with Romania. In the months preceeding Staligrad they warned the Germns about Soviet preparations and their lack of any anti-tank gun being able to even scratch the paint of a T-34. But Hitler’s promises of modern anti-atnk guns were never held. When teh Soviets attacked German heroes fled on trucks stolen to the Hungarians not to mention the charming German habit of throwing faeces on their allies made for a tense relationship between Hungarian and German soldiers.
Also in January 1942, ie when Germany was still winning, Admiral Horthy (Hungary’s dictator) prosecuted two Hungarian officers involved in a massacre of Jews and refused to handle Hugary’s Jews to the Germans. It was only in 1944 after the Germans had deposed him and replaced him by one of the two felons Horthy had prosecuted that the Germans were able to prey on Hungary’s Jews.
Now I suppose you realize that you have succeeded in diverting attention from Gerorge Soros. Was that your goal?
Point of fact the T-34 was a good tank maybe the best middle tank in the world at the time. However, the Germans had plenty of good resources to throw at the tank. For instance, the German 88 which was an anti-aircraft gun. The Germans loved to lower the barrel of those guns and use them on tanks. German tanks of the era were armed with either a 75mm cannon like their PV3s. Later models were upgraded to a high velocity 75mm gun which was adequate against the T-34. The biggest problem the Germans had was massing enough fire power to stop the Russian tanks. Russian tank output surpassed 1000 tanks a month and that’s where the real battle was won. Russia overwhelmed the Germans with sheer numbers. Give a little credit to Russian KV1 heavy tank which also did its share.
@Andy Gump
The point was not if the Germans had weapons against the T34 but if the Hungarians had them. During the battle of Stalingrad the Hungarians warned again and again about the Russian concentrations, about the signs of an imminent Russian offensive, about their own pathetically obsolete anti-tank weapons and their need for modern ones . And Hitler promised modern ones but never held. When the Russian blow fell, the Hungarians had no 88 AT guns and one German 75 AT gun every four miles. Later, those same Germans who had left them hanging and had flown by stealing their trucks from the Hungarians accused them of cowardice.
Ivan, please don’t ruin the validity of your post with vulgar language. This is a trait of the left. And it’s ALWAYS inappropriate here.
Sadly, while there were Hungarians who were righteous (like the family that hid my grandfather under a bed for almost a year), the country has had a long history of Jew hatred. There is no denying this.
To the point of towns with Jewish cemeteries, no Jews and an indifferent populace, I highly recommend this essay by the great Mark Steyn.
Shana tovah to all.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/06/17/the-lesson-of-a-jewish-cemetery/2/
This is just a slur.
Hungary was so unenthusiastic about deporting Jews that Adolf Eichmann was sent there after the Germans invaded in 1944.
Eichmann deported over 400,000 Hungarian Jews to their deaths from his office in the main synagogue.
Hungarians, including Horthy had actively resisted German demands to round up their Jews.
There seems to be a pattern of tarring whole countries with this form of vile abuse, even when totally incorrect – why?
Because while we are discussing about Hungary we stop looking at the ball ie George Soros. I suspect it was intentional from the guy who started the thread.
Alright, others have already taken you out to the woodshed, but I have topie in.
Firstly, am I in ANY way a Hungarian apologist? Absolutely not. They were a massive destabilizing force in the region with an unhealthy habit of rattling sabers that never fully accepted their fault in WWI and who promptly began rearming and who nearly brought the region to the brink of war several times with their wanton territorial ambitions and militarism. They never really became anything even superficially resembling a democracy and their government oversaw several bone-chilling atrocities against minorities inside their borders (Transylvania in particular). They were Hitler’s ally before Mussolini was, and they acted as Hitler’s attack hounds and played no small role in his annexations of Austria and Czechoslovakia. They wantonly committed several unprovoked attacks and by no means were nice.
But they were not pure evil. They were not on the level of Hitler, as the others have all-too thoroughly explained.
And even if they hadn’t been, tht was all in THE PAST, an modern Hungary has practically mirrored Germany in all relations save the Translyvanian issue, always apologizing to absolutely everybody for the sins of their fathers.
In short, you sir are full of it.
I always felt that Soros might have been the model for Magneto, the villain of the X-Men series. Magneto is apparently, like Soros, a young Hungarian Jew, who, when he grows up, has no identification with his co-religionists, and uses his power to cause trouble in the world.
Actually Roger, Soros’ actions saved Britain from joining the Euro.
That means we can at least set our own exchange rates which will help
us try to deal with the massive debt we have accumulated during Blair and
Browns disasterous terms in No 10. Ireland,Greece etc can’t do that.
Otherwise I am sure you are right!
That’s certainly why he did it, I’m sure. Providence is no cover for malice.
Congratulations to Soros for being a true Atheist. He isn’t bothered by this silly notion of morality without religious principle. Soros does, what Soros wants to, or needs to do to make himself wealthy and happy. If his freedom is threatened by Soviets, then he fights against them, not because he eschews communism, but because he is not in the ruling party. Why should he care what happens to others so long as he is not going to the camps.
He opposes the Tea Party because they oppose him. I’m sure he doesn’t believe they are racists, but only the backwards, useful idiots of ANSWER and others actually believe that. Like any war, a cartoonish vilification of your enemy is a must to drum up outrage. Think of the anti Japanese cartoons of World War II. And, if you can somehow use the corrupt Justice System to declare that cartoonish vilification of your cause is racist, then it’s like obtaining air superiority over your enemy.
I hope Soros one day is confronted by the ghosts of all those he helped to murder. Like SS Captain Lutze in the Twilight Zone episode “Death’s Head Revisited.”
There is something spooky about meeting and dealing with a person such as Soros. I met a man and had to deal with him, totally amoral and corrupt. The repulsion factor was overwhelming. It was only later that I found out that the man was a Kapo in a concentration camp. I can only wonder how many people he sent to their death. It is like they made a pact with the devil.
> Congratulations to Soros for being a true Atheist. He isn’t bothered by this silly notion of morality without religious principle.
Congratulations to you, for being a true Religious Fanatic. Completely unable to fathom somebody being a moral person even as they reject idiotic fairy tales as a basis for civilisation.
I don’t think much of Soros, but I’d rather have my kid alone with him than with a priest.
Seriously Darrel. Morality is based in religion. If I am an atheist, I am the center of the world. You sure aren’t. I want what you have and care not how I get it. I answer to no one as there is no higher power than me. When I die the world dies as far as I am concerned. There are only obstacles to my success, but ancient morality codes are not them. Morality is humbug to real atheists. Darrell you are unable to embrace true atheism and stuck in religious precepts without a religion. Why are you shackling yourself with this morality nonsense?
If you are unable to recognize when you cause harm to others, or if you don’t care if you cause harm to others, without having “harm” spelled out for you by ancient scripture, then I for one am very pleased you have chosen to delude yourself with religion. Your nutty ideas regarding atheism indicate to me that you would be an extremely dangerous person if you didn’t imagine that Almighty God is watching you, keeping records.
For myself, I am entirely capable of recognizing harm, and unwilling to knowingly cause harm to others. My life has purpose even though I expect no eternal happiness or misery. I love my children enough to teach them respect for themselves and others. All this, without needing to fear or be instructed by imaginary deities. You, like all religious fanatics, are incapable of grasping that your limitations are your own, and only your own.
This is quite an amusing debate among religious and irreligious hot heads. Neither of them seem to notice – although he says as much in his column – that the proprietor of this blog is an agnostic. One thing should be obvious: much of our morality comes in great part from traditional religious values, yet it is certainly possible to maintain those values without a formal religion.
“Teapartytracker.org will be sponsored by the NAACP, Think Progress, New Left Media and Media Matters for America. Think Progress is a George Soros operation connected to John Podesta’s Center for American Progress. Podesta is Clinton’s former chief of staff. Media Matters for America is the brainchild of a MoveOn consultant and Podesta’s Center for American Progress. Soros is a major supporter of MoveOn.”
Soros is like a wild dog. If he can’t have something he wants, he has to destroy it. He probably got this attitude from the German SS, the people responsible for implementing the Final Solution in the concentration camps. Really, to Soros this is a blood sport and he uses every media outlet there is to try and destroy the reputation and lives of people, both private citizens as well as people in the media.
And who are the vast majority of Tea Party activists? They are NOT celebrities or major political figures (although some have tried to join and become the face of the Tea Party movement). They are average citizens, people like you and me, just trying to do something that’s right for this country. They see what a raging sewer Washington has turned into and they want to start holding these politicians accountable for their actions. They want smaller government, a smaller, much less expensive Federal bureaucracy, and less government involvement in our lives.
Sounds like a real threat to the nation, right? Well, in a sense, we are. We strike terror in the hearts of politicians today because they know the game is up. They know now that they actually have to DO something in Washington, like run a more efficient and less expensive government. The “D” or the “R” next to their names does not really matter either. What matters are the policies individual politicians will follow once elected to office. Being a “Fiscal Conservative” isn’t going to be a punch line anymore in Washington. It’s going to be the norm and if you’re not one, you don’t get our vote. Simple, right?
Yet independent attitudes like this seem horrific to people like Soros. It shows that Soros (and far-left scum like him) no longer have a monopoly in the media and no longer can control the political discourse in this nation. In short, power is slipping away from them and going back to the people who actually can vote to make a real difference in an election.
To Soros, though, it probably seems like mob rule. He couldn’t buy off the Tea Party movement (because it’s too big and diverse) and he can’t destroy it’s reputation in the media controlled by people like him. In short, the people in the concentration camps are now turning against the guards, and Soros is wondering when they’ll start coming after him. So a good defense is a good offense, which is why he’s pulling out all the stops against the Tea Party movement.
But you can’t ever destroy the Tea Party movement. That’s what the media doesn’t get. The movement is within the hearts of all Americans and people like Soros can’t take that away from us. It’s the same thing that made farmers stand against the British at Lexington and Concord, it’s the same thing that enabled the common soldiers to endure the horrors of Valley Forge, and it’s the same thing that gave us hope until there was a final victory at Yorktown. You can’t take this away from any true American, which is why a foreign-born ex-Nazi like Soros doesn’t understand it. This is work that people like Washington, Jefferson, and Adams would expect from us today, and we most certainly will not let them down.
So take your best shot, Soros. Like this nation, we will still be here long after tyrants like you are dead and buried.
A really powerful comment my friend. Keep it up.
Here, here……well said.
Libertyship46,
Thanks for your comments. I think you said it very well. Keep it up.
Wow. Well said!
Very well said. What is Soro’s grand strategy to “take on” the Tea Parties? Disinformation. Ridicule, slander and lies. In short, precisely the strategy used for over a year now by Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barack Obama, the entire Democrat establishment, and of course, their media/celebrity megaphones. How’s that going for them? He’s going to use propaganda engines like Media Matters to do the job? Is he kidding? Who does he think he’s going to convince using those tools (double entendre intended?)
What these people fortunately do not yet realize is that calling people racists who are not racists, calling people nazis who are not nazis, calling people ignorant, redneck wack jobs who are none of those things, does not increase your credibility with such people. You do not win peoples’ hearts and minds by slandering them and insulting them. In fact, you harden their resolve. You further expose yourself for what you are and drive those people away.
The lying, the slanders, the name calling, the deranged vilification, have all contributed to the growth of the so-called Tea Party movement (“so-called” because many people who share the sentiments don’t necessarily attend Tea Party events.) These practices serve to fan the resentments, the horror of ordinary Americans discovering how far into excess, into derangment, into moral corruption,their societal elites have sunk. People think, if they will lie that viciously about me, I assume they will lie about everything else, too. Out with them. Soros’s efforts will simply be more gasoline on the flames.
Wow. Regarding disinformation…You clearly don’t live in California and haven’t witnessed the Fiorina and Whitman bag of tricks. It is so over the top that it’s embarrassing. And please don’t jump to conclusions. I am not a Brown supporter. I see the party system as something that pits Americans against each other instead of coming together to see where we can agree. It keeps folks “needing to be right” in their positions. No one has ALL the answers and only a fool would believe they do. Is it easy to find one answer for so many people? No. And we shouldn’t expect only one answer because each situation deserves individual attention. But it’s hard. I truly feel that if we, as American’s, could learn to stop being angry at each other if we don’t agree with each other and, instead, said, “I don’t necessarily agree with you but let’s talk about it and see where and how we can come together”, and truly mean that, it would begin to transform this current righteous and angry America to one who can, once again lead the world in a supportive manner because, we have learned from each other, and are willing to teach those who are interested in finding a way to shake hands across the aisle/continent. I would love to live in an America where folks would just stop random blanket statements about political parties, religions, life styles, etc. and instead, truly welcome diversity in all areas because it expands our minds and hearts and lives. We are ALL- Us and Them. Let’s just be Americans, work it out and be proud of that.
Amen…
Exactly right. Doesn’t matter what the media, Soros, or anybody else says about us – our friends and neighbors know who we are. A friend told me that’s how she knew the MSM was lying, because she knew me and knows I’m not a racist, bigot, or whatever they called us that day.
Oh Happy Day….I’m in love with you. My EXACT feelings but could NEVER have penned them like this.
We ALL want to know who you are, YOU’RE A DEFINITE LEADER, HONEY! PLEASE come out of the shadows….AMERICA needs you.
xoxoxo
Hey Libertyship46,
This is just a quest of edicate. I know that it is proper to hold one finger up while we sip our cup of tea in the face of the “liberals”. Being that I’m confused, which finger is it?
Very well put! Freedom burns in the hearts of Americans and you have so eloquently stated my patriot feelings.
Keep it up! Have you a blog of yur own?
Hi there and yes I do have my own blog. I’m a naval historian and you can read more about my work by just clicking on my name. The link will take you directly to my web site. My e-mail is on the web site as well.
I make it a point to try and bring history alive for kids in my town and there’s nothing better than to get them interested in the American Revolution. Good stuff there, things we should be looking at today and ideas that are still critical for these terrible times we now find ourselves in. We don’t have to look far to find many of the answers we need today. Our founding fathers, as well as the men and women in our grand national heritage, have been through a lot and they should serve as our teachers. I would take a John and Abigail Adams over any of the two-bit hucksters on The View today. My, how far have we fallen. But it’s time to be great again. Time to examine what the people who came before us had to say and how they dealt with similar situations in their lives. Not only does it make for good reading, but it will make you proud that you’re part of a nation that produced such fine human beings. Trust in our past, our heritage, and in ourselves. The answer is in us, gang, and not some politician. Make them conform to our principles and you will change things forever.
AMEN!
Certainly raises goosebumps on the back of my neck when I hear (and for the very first time TRULY understand) the phrase “WE THE PEOPLE…”!!!
Let’s take back Our Republic!
Decades after the Holocaust, old war criminals are still being hunted. If Soros collaborated with the Nazis, as he freely admits, why isn’t he being brought to Justice. As, for example, a death camp Guard would be. Surely there mustbe some remaining descendants or heirs of his victims left. And what would happen were Soros to set foot in Israel?
The man is a sociopath. He has no sense of right and wrong. If I did what Soros did, I would live in fear of people knowing. It seems he has no sense of that, no fear of exposure.
Sociopath? You’re probably right; after getting out of a large non-profit global “Church” run by sociopaths, I am concerned that many in our religious organizations, corporations, large non-profits, law class, and political parties are just that. The more I read about the behavior, the more I see it. I don’t think the unaware know just how much evil sociopaths do, and the suffering caused when they are in positions of power. They are very adept at getting themselves into positions of “deniability,” able to take credit for good and denying knowledge of their backdoor deals. In our current society, it appears that laws that most of us would discerne as immoral or unethical are “legal,” so our legal system endores the behavior. We also have a media that willingly overlooks the behavior to avoid legal harrassment-or they’re just plain cowardly.
there was no mention in the article of Soreass’s opposition to the 2nd Amendment and his involvement in worldwide gun control. I wonder how many of the trolls who post here are on his payroll? I believe he will have a special place in hell. . . right there with Hitler and friends. . . .
Mr. Simon – thank you. There is no other word that fits this creature from the black depths. Where did he come from, where did he get his power, why is he doing what he is doing? He stands as sentinel for every pathologically vicious aspect of humanity and then some. At 80 years of age his determination to poison the world has not abated. His tentacles have grown thicker and more plentiful and he continues to choke. He is pure evil personified. There should be a nationwide campaign to familiarize Americans with who he is and what he has been doing to their country. He has to be unmasked, called out, and publicly accused. His picture with a warning label should be plastered everywhere.
There are few people who creep me out in such a way that I would refer to them as monsters, however, Soros has always elicited a particular sliminess.
In fact, the least problematic part of his persona is that of a profiteer. What emanates from his aura is a psychopathic f–k you mentality, the kind of person who REVELS in other people’s misery.
The fact that he is targeting the Tea Party for destruction is of piece with a man who is anti freedom to the core of his being.
The aberrant part of his personality was when he ostensibly helped European freedom seekers, however, there may yet be more than meets the eye to his ‘benevolent’ actions.
Soros is not only anti-freedom, glorifying totalitarian elitist rule, but most especially, he is a bottom feeder, a man who is more shark than human, circling for the next pool of blood.
Soros is a monster – a killer without conscience. And he is one of the worst sort – a will-to-power driven monster who uses others to do his dirty work. For those like Soros, it ceased to be about money long ago. His desire for wealth was superseded by an unappeasable appetite to control Mankind. All one has to do is to look at Soros’ mentors and the pedigree of their ideas and the outcomes of those ideas: Slaughter, atrocity and mass murder.
That’s who we are dealing with. Soros is not only unfit to live in a free society – he is unfit to live.
From Levant’s article: “Last year, when he [Soros] made $3.3 billion off the banking collapse, he called the world’s financial crisis “the culmination of my life’s work.”
I think “sociopath” fits.
Why hasn’t Soros been hanged as a war criminal ? Protected by fellow criminals,sorry I forgot.
That was kind of the question I had. Where are the Nazi hunters of old, who pursued those SS dirtbags, caught them and put them on trial? Why do “former guards” at some of the concentration camps, today, get returned to Europe to stand trial, and someone like “George Sore-Azz” continues to live his lifestyle with no worries?
Soros has too much money, too many connections…there are too many people (Jews included) who protect him.
I do not think Soros helped with the freedom movement in E. Europe out of a sense of righteousness; he had ulterior motives. I think he is a very twisted, sick soul;a deranged and psychopatic mind, and he is very dangerous, because fellow travellers flock to him (which should say much about any organization or politician with ties to him). If I was of the believing sort I’d almost call him anti-christ.
Soros used to work for Clinton ADMin. – sent into E Europe to do whatever was necessary – he toppled a few governments and currencies, he had shadow governments waiting in the wings to take over once the existing govt. was ousted. During the whole thing he made a vast fortune – and continued until he got too “HOT” so Clinton removed him from his job – and he carried on independently. He did nothing for E. Europe unless by accident – it was about him and his wealth – as it always is – that and bringing down America.
There is a high probability that Soros is a KGB or GRU sleeper agent. After WW2 the Soviets have realised the usefulness of Soros’ twisted intelligence and his potential as a future destroyer of the US therefore they have been protecting him and by supporting him finantially they helped him to raise to the present level.
He is repaying his debt to them and doing that with bretahtaking skill.
However he has made one big mistake. As evil and deranged and destructive his pretegee – Barack Hussain Obama is, he proved to be rather inept in fulfilling Soros’ grand strategy of finishing off America for good.
Looks like his plan is falling appart.
So in despair Soros is attemting to smear his main enemy – the Tea Party.
But he has already failed with Tas Party’s de facto leader – Sarah Palin.
So he shall fail again and will ultimately be defeated.
The question is: What kind of punishment does that DEMON deserve?
Civil war is coming soon. When it does, we need to clean out the stables THOROUGHLY. The cleaning does not start here. The start NEEDS to be with those who are the enablers for the evil that has destroyed this country. Failing to start with them would ensure the evil wins. But once the enablers are gone, the cleaning needs to continue through this sewer and many others.
You, sir, have it exactly right. We will struggle with our consciences later, as decent men must. We face a monstrous evil; the distillation of the worst ideas and motives in men who are interested in nothing more than unlimited, absolute power and the exercise thereof.
These people are monsters – killers without conscience, and they have left horror, atrocity and mass murder in the wake of their trajectory through history. No one should be so foolish as to assume that such will-to-power driven monsters will respect the results of free and fair electoral processes. They will not simply shrug their shoulders and walk away from the losses of November 2010. Conscience, religious sanctions and moral restraint of any kind are beneath their contempt. Millions of us dead, the rest of us in chains. That’s their ultimate goal. And if that seems a little, well, extreme – history is my witness.
Damn right. Let’s make sure that anybody who doesn’t think exactly the same way we do, is exterminated! ‘Cause they’re EVIL! Praise Christ!
Don’t know much about history or human nature, do you, boy?
Read Lee Harris’ Civilization and Its Enemies and get back to us.
So if you read that book you’re an expert, eh? You should try reading others.
Anyway, as it happens I haven’t read that particular volume. But I know enough about human nature to recognize that the greatest danger to civilization comes from fanaticism, whether political or religious, and that fanatics never realize they’re fanatics.
I don’t think your book taught you that; or if it did, you didn’t get it.
Roger, I think “sociopath” may be the word you’re looking for.
How did this dubious creep gain US citizenship?
Any “reporters” out there who would look into this?
Tomp, it’s a dirty little secret that the State Dept, as well as other gov’t officials, harbored many SS ‘sympathizers’, while they closed the doors to many Jewish refugees running for their lives.
Clearly the knowledge that Soros was a Judenrat played big in their protection of him.
I would bet my house on it…
Right, but of course many were more than ‘sympathizers’…maybe 10,000 SA and SS types, and important collaborators who may never have killed anyone but organized much of the killing; ‘white Russians’ and other E Europeans, not just Germans. Many of these were brought in or protected once here by those responsible for building the ‘ethnic’ sectors of the Republican Party. Former Presidents were involved in this. All of it justified or ‘justified’ by the Soviet threat.
Instead of wondering how you would have responded to the moral dilemma of another time and place, look more closely at how you responded to the moral dilemma of your own time and place. Bush wasn’t Hitler. But he did, for the first time in US history, institutionalize a policy of torture. What was your response to that? Denial? Downplaying? Justification?
And Franklin Roosevelt had Nazi sabateurs who did no actual damange tried in secret before a military commission and electrocuted. What does that make him? A little historical perspective would be useful.
I disagreed with the Bush policy — but I am still not sure it was tantamount to torture. The fact that it was done openly and with a lot of legal scrutiny is the real difference between the US and a totalitarian dictatorship. And the last time I looked Guantanamo was still in operation.
Regards
Sorry, Russell, not in the market for any red herrings today.
Take that smelly dead fish back to your favorite Soros-funded website.
Soros is like a James Bond villian made flesh; Nazi collaborator who graduated to controlling, and trashing entire economies, while ruining countless lives for his personal gain. While I’d like to believe that no man is beyond redemption, his black heart may be the closest I’ve seen, yet.
Roger, Soros is even worse than that. His slimey money is behind untold numbers of foundations, undermining governments everywhere.
Back in 2006, I spotted this article at MEMRI– http://tinyurl.com/25hboro –about how the patriotic armed forces of Turkey were being undermined to create a radical Islamic state. In the last 4 years, much of that work has succeeded. If you look at the article, make sure you read that last line:
“[11] TESEV, the Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation, is a non-governmental organization sponsored by George Soros.”
Soros has to be stopped.
I avoid “wishing people dead” because I think its bad karma. Soros is an exception to the rule. I’ll hoist a tall cool one when he gets on the elevator that goes to the bottom floor.
If Ian Fleming had wanted a resume for Count Blofeld, all he had to do was use this guy’s life story. This man is totally disgusting. To be afraid and cooperate with the NAZIs to save one’s skin is one thing. To make money off of it and have no guilt is quite another. This goes right along with the rank anti-Semitism which permeates the Left today, both here and abroad, and which explains the Left’s love affair with radical Islam. It’s the next best thing to Nazism around right now.
I was on the same line of thinking when Soros was doing air time this morning on NPR. He would make an archetype James Bond supervillan; billionare, ruthless, private agenda. He seems more SPECTER than SMERCH, but one never knows from that lollipops and rainbows web site of his.
What’s the problem? We now know that even Hitler was partially jewish, so why should we “excuse” Soros from his self confessed guilt just because he is a secular Jew?
More than likely he is as much of sociopath as Hitler and being very powerful, and very rich he is in a position to do the United States tremendous damage.
I think the more accurate word for his active attempts to subvert our Republic would be treason, but that might be too controversial for the liberals and RINOs who are only too happy to accept his money.
And what’s even more disturbing is that if you want to know what Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, or Barack Obama think about an issue, ask Soros!! It sure took a lot of his dough to become a major shareholder of the Democrat Party.
So Soros helped confiscate Jewish property cause as he put it If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow.
Now he is helping confiscate the property of many Americans so that “somebody else” doesn’t get in before him.
From Ezra Levant:
See how much American’s lost from their 401Ks and life’s savings.
He went and bought shares in Brazil’s petroleum company Petrobras and then Obama went and gave Petrobras a 2.5 billion gift. Did George pull any strings there?
Roger – You forgot to mention one other miserable organization Soros is involved in – J Street – the pro-Arab anti-Israel PAC that thinks of itself as a counter to AIPAC. I guess an additional 6 million dead Jews is what Soros wants. He is the quintessential self-hating Jew.
NB to Andrew Lale @ #1: While Admiral Horty was in power in Hungary, he protected the Jews from Hitler, so a respectable percentage of the Hungarian Jewish population survived. It was really in 1956 (during the abortive Hungarian Revolution) that many chose to leave and seek safety in the West.
“Self-hating Jew”? No, my friend. If there is one thing we all can agree about sociopaths like Soros, is that they love their own selves too much: their egos are their gods.
“Self-hating”? Nah.
As for “Jew”: he could have followed a conscience and declined to help confiscating Jewish property in Hungary, thus risking his life. Yet, he demonstrated from that point forward that HE IS NO JEW. Even Esther tried to save her own people after being forced into the middle of the Belly of the Beast, so to speak.
Heck! Oskar Schindler (a Gentile!) proved himself to be more of a Jew than George Soros!
Roger is right: Soros IS a monster. He took any sense of a conscience and shipped it out, just like those Hungarian Jews, and took the material goods to himself. The fact that he has thrown many people’s retiree futures “out to the ovens” for his own dirty profit should have been a huge warning sign to those Leftists and Democrats who gladly take his blood money, like the Obamas and the Clintons, who seem to care so much about retirees and senior citizens.
This comes from the Christian New Testament about the Anti-Christ, but this definitely should apply with Jews censuring this monster:
“They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.”
Wishful thinking, Newt. George Soros is no less a Jew than I presume you are. There’s the pity.
Soros’ latest venture not only further reveals the evil that is Soros, it also confirms the Democrat Party’s complicity in such evil. In the name of power, authority and absolute control, Democrats have traded their patriotism, idealism and their very souls to climb in bed with the Devil’s consort. Hereafter, I will consider any Democrat who takes campaign money from any of Soros’ network of organizations to be a insidious and poisonous serpent, whose intent is to destroy all that is decent, honorable and good. A curse be upon George Soros and all those who crawl on their bellies with him.
And at the very top of that list is Bill and Hillary Clinton. Fellow travelers in selling out this Republic if there ever were ones.
Soros uses the “if I hadn’t, someone one else would have” often. In the financial chaos following 9/11, he essentially shorted the United States, making another great deal of money. When asked about the propriety of this, he replied, yes, “If I hadn’t done it…”
100 million for human rights! What a MONSTER!!! http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/09/07/129696159/soros-donates-100-million-to-human-rights-watch
If only ‘human rights’ were all this organization were truly about. But unfortunately for you, that’s simply not so. So let’s take a closer look and see what Human Rights Watch is really doing. Let’s take a look at the pedigree of their ideas and motives.
You might want to check your premises…
Wow! $100 million of pig’s lipstick to cover the millions he helped the Nazis steal from Jews, not to mention all those gold fillings ripped out of victims’ mouths in the camps, victims he helped turn in.
Soros promotes global gun control and attacks our Second Amendment. (http://www.soros.org/initiatives/usprograms/focus/justice/articles_publications/publications/gun_report_20000401/GunReport.pdf)
• Hitler promoted gun control, which made it much easier to round up and murder about 21 million defenseless victims.
• Stalin promoted gun control and murdered about 60 million defenseless victims.
• Mao promoted gun control and murdered about 42 million defenseless victims.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
So that works out to about 80 cents per victim, Soros’ value for one human being.
But hey, this only proves that if Soros didn’t do it, somebody else stepped up and did it for him.
The perfect rationale of a psychopath.
Another red herring salesman, I see.
Go tell George you failed. He might still pay you for trying, tho.
Golly gee- do you think perhaps Soros has it in mind to try and defeat Arizona’s immigration bill? After all his puppet president used Arizona as an example of America’s terrible Human Rights record.
Yes, the word sociopath or psychopath fits precisely. George Soros is an evil man who has done evil deeds and continues to spread his despicable slime wherever he treds and to whatever he touches.
The NAACP, by the way, is fast becoming totally worthless. It has been an anachronism for a long time, today it is really “creepy”.
The first time I saw a pic of Soros ( I had already heard of him ) he was sitting alongside of a staircase in a New York apartment behind a speaker who was standing on the staircase speaking to people asking them to give him money so he could do something he said he would not do…run for President…That speaker BHO. When I think of that pic it still gives me the creeps because I believe Soros and his opertives does pull Obama’s strings. Then I read about Obama giving 2 Billon to Petrobras so they could drill for oil off the coast of Brazil. This was before the Gulfcoast mess but we are in the middle of a recession and this guy is giving away money and agreeing with us not being able to drill off our own coast. Soros owns share in Petrobras.
Ultimately everything makes sense.
From what I read here and elsewhere of Soros´s activities, there is a lack of commonality. There is no evident intent that makes sense of it all so there is obviously another goal. To state that he is simply a sociopath is the easy way out. If somebody is doing something there is a reason.
To look at a few groups or causes he has funded, helped, or worked against, including those mentioned above:
TESEV, the Turkish Economic and Social Studies Foundation, mentioned above undermining moderate pro-western influences in Turkey.
J Street (anti Zionist/Israel).
Hungarian rejection of Soviet Union.
Opposed and worked against George W Bush.
Hates America and/or the American way.
Works against Tea Party, an initiative promoting independence of spirit.
Funds Human Rights Watch.
Former member of Council on Foreign Relations.
Helped inflate the bubble that blew up into the current global economic crises and then calls his winnings on it: “my life´s work?!)
There is so much more. (This was done in 10 minutes!)
Something does not add up here and until it all makes sense his true purpose will not have been discerned.
If I may, I’d like to point out another Soros interview (or it might be part of the one which Roger quotes) where Soros openly states his belief that he is Jesus Christ.
He is one very seriously disturbed individual. His actions in the world markets prove it.
And please pardon me while adjust my tin foil hat, but there was a major disruption of our market that precipitated the meltdown in late 2008, (how convenient!) one that has yet to be explained. Someone began pulling large sums of money from a sector that caused the Wall Street alarm bells to sound. I suspect Soros, as he has a well-documented history of market manipulation in other countries, as Roger points out.
The word monster is quite appropriate…
I have always thought the crash of September 2008, where
billions was mysteriously withdrawn from money market
accounts, was somehow caused by a Soros munipulation.
This certainly helped his sock puppet, BO be elected.
I have to agree with you, Jan. McCain had crept ahead of O in the polls and the conversation had to be changed, immediately. The traditional October Surprise became the September Surprise, engineered by Soros, and McCain, when confronted by a disastrous “remedy,” unraveled like a cheap suit.
Given that war crimes trails still occur….what about getting George Soros tried for his Judenrat activities……
You’d think he’d be stripped off his U.S. citizenship, just like John Demjaniuc… And deported to face war-crimes trials… And his properties and holdings confiscated… Especially since he has confessed to those atrocities himself!
Now that I know Soros’ background, I understand (partly) what makes him tick. When he was fourteen and sending other Jews to their deaths, he preserved his own self-image by convincing himself that if he hadn’t done it, someone else would have. That’s been his guiding principle ever since, and he’s had plenty of enablers. Psychologists would have a field day with this guy. Even “monster” isn’t quite adequate to describe him.
I think you might have something there. Soros is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, but both at once and without an elixir. How very schizophrenic!
The only information regarding Soros identity comes from Soros himself.
In my opinion he is a German born son of a high ranking Nazi that was set up with a false identity at the close of the war. the source of his fortune is looted Jewish treasure.
Do you have sources for this, or is it speculation?
I can’t agree on the part where Soros is not Jewish, because evil people are in every population. However, I would bet that his initial nest egg was wealth he stole from Jewish victims of the Holocaust. He was definitely in a good position to do so.
Shalom Larry and Shana Tovah from Yerushalayim. As far as your question- I would call it an educated guess. MBY
Maybe so. Shana tova back at you.
It’s really simple.
Implementing Soros’s agenda and interests in America requires that “the right people” have access to the sort of extraConstitutional powers and spending that 20th century incrementalism has enabled.
The Tea Party, with it’s message of Secular Constitutionalism, is a direct threat to that power, and, if successful in the general scheme of ripping the levers of power off the machine, a greater threat, because then even if “the right people” are elected, they won’t be useful in advancing towards his goals.
Just as Rousseau poised John Locke’s well, it is an instructive exercise to see how Soros taints and subverts Karl Popper’s “open society”.
Just as Rousseau poisoned John Locke’s well, it is an instructive exercise to see how Soros taints and subverts Karl Popper’s “open society”.
Outstanding connection of ideas. Interesting how these killers without conscience co-opt the ideas of classical liberal thinkers and pervert them to their own ends.
Now, take it to the next level: Soros has engineered the collapse of currencies, the destruction of peoples’ wealth and livelihoods and the disruption of free societies. To what end? For Soros it stopped being about money long ago if it ever was. It’s about power: the acquisition of absolute power and the ability to harm others without personal consequence.
As always, one only needs to remember his Shakespeare to find answers about the human condition. For men like Soros, Macbeth will teach you everything you need to know:
“I am in blood
Stepped in so far that, should I wade no more,
Returning were as tedious as go o’er” – Macbeth
The people we are struggling against are evil people. And no matter how daunting the challenge looks, they must be fought. The good news is that while there are Macbeths aplenty in the world, in the end, there are also Macduffs, those who choose to act in the face of evil rather than simply bemoan their fates:
“Let us rather
Hold fast the mortal sword, and like good men
Bestride our down-fall’n birthdom.” – Macduff
Two quotes from Julius Caesar have been singularly appropriate to our circumstances of late –
“Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed,
that he hath grown so great?”
and
“There is a tide in the affairs of men
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
On such a full sea are we now afloat;
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose the ventures before us.”
Shakespeare can teach us anything we wish to know about the nature of our human condition. It is a deliberate and well-engineered tragedy that Shakespeare’s works are so little taught and largely ignored today.
Very true. And the reason is quite clear: anyone who is truly versed in Shakespeare will instantly recognize the tragic flaw inherent in the utopian “thinking” of the leftist ideology that is currently dominating Western Culture – namely, that evil can be “socialized” out of human beings.
Shakespeare – like our Founders – understood that good and evil exist in the hearts of all men at all times. And for all of us, there is a constant, unrelenting struggle in our souls between the two, with a constant suppression of one in favor of the other. For those who choose evil – especially those who have means and power – they eventually become so warped and twisted by their choices that, like the original evil one, Lucifer, they try to become God. It’s this impulse that gives us Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, and Chavez. Soros is no different…he’s simply chosen a different tactic.
Probably the best quote I’ve ever come across to describe such men comes from Balthasar Gracian, the Spanish Jesuit. It is succinct and terrifying in it’s keen insight:
“A fine intellect wedded to a wicked will is always an unnatural monster.”
Our fate is not in our stars, but in our selves…that we are underlings.
This is the thing that troubles me the most about Soros. I keep thinking he can’t be that bad because he studied under Karl Popper, for crying out loud! The same Karl Popper that wrote the outstanding “Open Society and Its Enemies”. It boggles my mind, and I can only imagine he didn’t pay any attention at all, or he learned the exact tools used throughout history to obtain power, no matter how morally corrupt they may be. He has taken on the role of Plato that Popper demonized.
As I stated above, Jake, Macbeth will give you all the insight you need into men like Soros:
” I have no spur to prick the sides of my intent
but only vaulting ambition, which o’erleaps itself,
and falls on the other.” – Macbeth
IOW: men like Soros aren’t responding to some hidden hurt or past grievance (regardless of the “moral relativism” that’s been promoted by the Left in order to upend the traditional Judeo-Christian mores of Western Civilization)…they are responding to the natural drives that exist in all human beings. Ambition, like many other human impulses, can be a force for either good or evil: it depends on the choices of the man who acts upon those feelings.
In Shakespearean terms, the tragedy of the modern Left is that the vast majority of its adherents aren’t evil people – they’re ignorant people who don’t understand the danger their ideological movement poses to civilization. One of their favorite refrains is that there isn’t anything wrong with the theory of socialism or Marxism, per se…the problem has been with the flawed people who have attempted to implement societies based on socialist or Marxist principles. The tragic irony, of course, is that they’re absolutely correct: they just don’t fully understand the import of their observation.
The reason they keep failing at building their perfect society is because imperfect human beings cannot build a perfect society. They misunderstand the dangerous ambitions that oftentimes lie within the hearts of those who drive and/or rise within such movements. It’s the reason why these ideological-turned-political movements inevitably end up helmed by Hitlers and Stalins…because the energy required to build these movements depends on “vaulting ambition”…and no matter how many good-hearted men work for good ends, it only takes one snake in their midst to bring about calamity and ruin.
Just ask Othello.
That is one of the best replies I’ve ever read — bravo!
Thank you, Jane. That’s very kind
And this is exactly what drove Mao – the biggest mass-murderer in human history as beautifully and in its entire horror described in the epic book “Mao The Unknown Story” by Jung Chang and Jon Halliday.
Bogdan -
Here’s an excerpt from a forum “discussion” I recently had with a shining example of the type of historically ignorant Leftists I referenced above. It serves as a perfect illustration of the dangerous ignorance one endlessly encounters with the Left: vague bits of knowledge with a complete lack of humility or wisdom.
LEFTY: Marxists are generally a bunch of tossers but that doesn’t mean they’re always wrong.
ME: Then you should be able to provide us a few real-world examples of what they’ve been right about. And just a hint: forced labor, state-sanctioned famines, and mass murder aren’t generally thought of as “good”.
LEFTY: RE: state sanctioned famines. That’s Stalinism, not Marxist-Leninism. LEARN TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE. Lenin killed democrats and others opposed to his rule (as did Trotsky), Stalin invoked the reformation which led to mass starvation and cannibalism.
ME: And which of those was Maoism based in? The same Maoism of the Great Leap Forward? And what, no comment on the forced labor and mass murder? Guess we’ll chalk those up to “inconvenient truths”, eh? RE: Learn to tell the difference. Step 1: See above. Step 2: Remove foot from mouth.
Mysteriously, the knowledge that Marxists existed outside the Soviet Union must have been too much for him to process, because he promptly disappeared.
For years, I have been asking the same two questions of Leftists all over the internet. To this day, not one has been able to provide a reasoned response. Here they are:
1) If, as you claim, the Western Right is dangerous because of a history of totalitarianism and genocidal mass-murder, doesn’t that mean that Western Left is even more dangerous because of it’s history of totalitarianism and genocidal mass-murder, considering that the Left killed 5-7 times the amount of people over the past 100 years?
2) If an able-bodied human being can be ABSOLVED of the responsibility of providing for their own material needs, how do you logically arrive at the notion that other able-bodied human beings should be BURDENED with the responsibility of providing for their material needs?
Then just sit back and watch them scatter like cockroaches when the lights are turned on
What really saddens me is to see the NAACP on that list. I know the writing has been on the wall for years, but still. The others are par for the course.
While Soros does have an odd history (to say the least) I think it’s a mistake to go overboard in demonizing him. The left has been trying to do the same thing to the Koch brothers lately, and it makes them looked unhinged. Comparing Soros to a Bond super villain (except in fun, perhaps) will not make the right look good in comparison.
The man is not young. His money, and the organizations he has set up, will outlast him by decades or more. Keep the focus on them.
Well, then, go over to David Horowitz’ file on Soros over at Discover the Networks and see if you feel, after reading it, that Soros is being ‘demonized’.
http://tinyurl.com/2343ydk
great minds think alike:
i posted this same thing a few days ago:
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2010/09/unrepentent-nazi-collaborator-launches.html
“Tomp, it’s a dirty little secret that the State Dept, as well as other gov’t officials, harbored many SS ’sympathizers’, while they closed the doors to many Jewish refugees running for their lives.”
Nazi officials and high level members were brought into USA by US Military and OSS, which then became the CIA with Ex-Nazi officials as consultants and advisors. Many American CIA SOP come from these consultants and advisors
Nazi Scientists went on to work in Biogenics and space programs, both of which can be directly traced to experiments and projects the Nazi’s worked on during WW2.
These operations were called “paperclip” and managed by the OSS > CIA.
Many nations refused to take in Jews before and during WW2, shameful.
I like Menachem’s observation that maybe Soros is in reality a non-Jew. Maybe he and maybe he is not. I do know one thing is certain: he is man without morals and is valueless unless he is making money. His ego knows no bounds. He will be judged and hopefully it will be sooner and not any later.
Two important labels of Soros explain the behavior. He is a secular Jew. The important word in that phrase is “secular”. Secular means there is no God. If there is no God, then actions do not have moral meaning. They do not reflect his soul, since their is no soul to reflect. That is the definition of secular.
Secondly, Soros is Progressive. Progressive means that what matter is the progression of society as a whole. Individuals don’t count.
Since Tea Party members largely think individuals do count, they should be opposed.
Progressive Secular Jew. The word “Jew” in that description doesn’t really matter. He could just as well be a Progressive Secular Methodist. The result would be the same. And just as destructive.
Roger,
We need to take the “next three baby steps” forward to understand someone like Soros. First, he is a perfect trader. Able to assimilate information and unemotionally act on it. The Holocaust drained the emotion out of him. Second, he is hyper-competitive. He would do anything to win at a bridge game, no different than the currency market, no different than the political market. It doesn’t matter to him as long as he wins, and you lose. Third, he wants control. Control means he gains, builds and crushes any opposition.
The tea party is a massive threat. It mimic’s Hayak’s “Wisdom of Crowds”. Soros cannot control it. It’s too random, with no leader other than a spiritual idea. You can’t fight a persistent idea, and he knows it. Especially one that might damage his chance at taking control.
He is doing this to use crony capitalism. Once he is in the drivers seat, he builds off the backs of the rest of us.
You might want to google Kurt Nimmo before relying on what he writes about Soros.
Ok we’ve cursed the darkness – now where is our Dr. Xavier to offset their Magneto? Where is our multi-billionaire who can fund organizations out the wazoo? We are the legitimate capitalists aren’t we? Why don’t we have an anti-Soros who is a capitalist and wants to support the causes of freedom? Of course the media (probably underwritten by the Monster himself) would track down or make up whatever negative derogatory story possible to destroy them. No, we don’t want a mega-bucks puppet master who controls things but money does buy happiness and in this case happiness is defending what freedoms we have left.
As far as Soros himself, nothing on this board comes close to detailing what the sociopath has done.
The closest analogy would be Dr. Evil from Mike Meyers movies, not as a comedy but deadly serious. He truly believes himself to be a Supreme being and Amoral entity.
I would have thought when he tried to bankrupt england he would have an untimely accident, but it was the general population that suffered. Maybe someday he will cross the wrong people and will be the end of it.
My father and his older brother were Holocaust Survivors. They were both “collaborators” of sorts, my uncle as head of a factory in the Lodz Ghetto that made shoes for the Nazi soldiers and my father as the number two engineer in a factory that made bullet casings.
They both knew the head of the Judenrat, Chaim Rumkowski, and my uncle as a senior manager worked with him directly. I had several family friends tell me that my uncle saved their lives. “He stood in our living room and argued with Rumkowski to keep our famliy off the transports.” In the end they all went, but the shortened stay was life saving.
My father to his dying day was ashamed that he hadn’t done something like kill a guard, even if it had cost him his life.
And then we have the likes of Soros, ugh.
Can anyone confirm what I have read about George Soros? I read sometime back that his hedge fund was instrumental in driving up the oil prices in 2007 and 2008 and the fund profited by a billion dollars. Another article I read stated his fund had been profiting by selling the Euro short and driving the price of the Euro in to the cellar. Not sure what news sources I read but is this the kind of person you want having access to our president?
Soros, if you haven’t done the research, is heavily vested in the failure of America’s finance. We all know that he has made his fortune by predicting and betting against faltering economies, making those disasters worse for those who depended on those currencies. Over the years he has constructed his own economic theory (http://www.sharpeinvesting.com/2007/08/george-soros-theory-of-reflexivity-mit-speech.html) and he has bet heavily on the application of that theory and the destruction of the American dollar. He stands to make an enormous amount on our failure if that should happen, like he needs more money. But, it’s his ego and his theory that means the most to him. Probably because so few believe and apply his words. Soros is a human pig.
That’s an unjust treatment of the poor, inoffensive pig!
The idea that some here are pushing, that religious moral systems are somehow automatically superior to secular moral systems, is absurd. Innumerable examples from history show that religious beliefs are no guarantee that any individual or culture will have good morals. And why should they be? The only reason that religious moral systems give one for adhering to their strictures is that one will be punished or rewarded by god. That’s the intellectual equivalent of a child being constrained by his parent and offered a spanking or a cookie in response to their behavior. Do those of you who believe this think that you yourselves would simply run wild and commit mayhem if god were not standing by to punish you for it? Have you so little respect for yourselves and your fellow man?
WHAT equivalent “secular moral systems”? Chapter and verse, please. (Re “religious moral systems”, I’ll cite the Ten Commandments. Steve in Philly, perhaps you’ll need to look them up.)
It’s the secular regimes of the 20th century that murdered millions of their own citizens: that’s where “secular moral systems” tend to lead.
It’s about time people realize what a MONSTER Soros is,and his part in destroying America!
The mistaken impression of Hungary needs to be corrected. Just as it was populated by some Communists the country was populated by some anti-Semites. However the Jews of Hungary lived amongst the general population until the Germans entered in 1945. Today Budapest, which has the largest Jewish synagogue in the world outside of New York has a Jewish population of 100,000 as opposed to a pre-war population 6 times that size. Approximately 600,000 Hungarian Jews were killed in the Holocaust.
Hungary has the greatest per ca-pita number of Nobel Prize winners in the hard sciences, including a number who fortunately emigrated to the US just before the war. A number of the physicists and mathematicians who made it here were major contributors to the development of our atomic and nuclear weapons program. Also the most brilliant of them all, John Von Neumann, designed the basic architecture of the computer and was responsible for most of the critical components of our nuclear deterrent during the Cold War.
Er, Stu, not to denigrate the Jews of Hungary and their distinguished past, but your stats are a bit off. To quote one easily accessible site:
“Metropolitan Tel Aviv, with 2.5 million Jews, is the world’s largest Jewish city. It is followed by New York, with 1.9 million, Haifa 655,000, Los Angeles 621,000, Jerusalem 570,000, and southeast Florida 514,000.”
Budapest is down around 50K, not to be sneezed at, but not close to the big ones above.
Once at a meeting of the US Atomic Energy Commission, a quorum was present, but not all. The president of the AEC asked in his flawless native Hungarian “Shall we conduct the meeting in the mother tongue?” Passed unanimously.
It is important that everyone understands how Soros kicked off his “entrepreneurial enterprise.”
As a child in Nazi Germany, he led a street gang of children, who would rat out Jewish families to the Nazis, then raid and pillage the empty homes after the family was rounded up, and sell the belongings on the black market, or to dirty shop owners.
Yes – the man is a monster. The only solace I can muster is knowing that the time he has left on this Earth is short, and all of his money will simply by him a fancy coffin
Roger, when you put it together like that, it’s easy to see Soros’ attraction for MoveOn.Org.
If Bush = Hitler, then Soros was simply a civil servant much like any of the hundreds of thousands that populate today’s federal bureaucracy. And we don’t ask them to feel guilty about implementing our government’s dictates so why should he feel guilty about implementing Hitler’s?
Pretty clever, huh?
Is south east Florida a city?
No, it’s a megalopolis (I live in Miami, which connects to Fort Lauderdale, which connects to Palm Beach, which connects to… you get the idea).
An old Florida joke (due to the fact that Miami is heavily populated with Cubans, while Miami Beach has many Jewish people):
Question: What’s the longest bridge in the world?
Answer: The bridge between Miami Beach and Miami… it connects Tel Aviv and Havana.
A few years ago, I read an interview of George Soros where he bragged that he had escaped his family history of paranoia.
Today there’s a story that he has thrown $100 million at Human Rights Watch and millions more at similar organizations that officially watch “human rights” around the world. (the human rights industry is as suspect as the global warming industry when it comes to attracting cash)
Since George made $3.3 billion last year off the banking collapse, I guess a few hundred million won’t be missed.
He is also involved in the $2 billion dispensation from this American gov’t to facilitate PetroBras drilling offshore Brazil.
I’ve always thought Soros was disturbed, a personality like some villain in a Bond movie, maybe Goldfinger. And that, despite the bragging, he really hasn’t escaped the “family history” of paranoia.
And despite his disclaimers, he is trying for some sort of atonement.
All the Soros organizations and sub-organizations are difficult to untangle. Some of his media-matters idiotlogues are very active on the internet, including PJM.
I’ve often wished Soros would go away and quit tweaking the planet with his money, to the planet’s infinite detriment.
“… [H]e has thrown $100 million at Human Rights Watch and millions more at similar organizations …
“And despite his disclaimers, he is trying for some sort of atonement.”
Is it possible that he simply wishes to assure that these organizations leave the names of himself and all his projects _out_ of any (retrospective or prospective) condemnations?
I do not think Soros is a true Leftist. What he is is a true sociopath…a very rich one. If you look at some of the events he’s been involved with (some posted here in various comments) you’ll notice that he thrives during societal chaos and collapse. He thrived as a member of the Judenrat. He thrived in the hyper-inflation of post-war Hungary trading away the miserable last savings of people for scraps of food. He thrived when a nation’s currency collapses. He thrives when others are miserable. If Turkey goes over the edge he’ll profit there just as he profited when the banks collapsed in the west.
In the United States he sees the agents of collapse as the far left. So he throws his support to them. And when they ruin us Soros will profit greatly. Again.
It has not gone unnoticed, nor the suprising habit chaos, collapese and misery of countries that garner his attentions. Wherever he seems to turn his eye bad things seem to ultimately happen — bad things he profits from.
Roger, I do not have the resources to undertake the full investigative reporting that would need to be done, but your wonderful essay…is a grain of sand in the Soros ocean of lies, deceit, crony anti-capitalism, insider dealing, unilateral “redistribution” schemes and other leftist plots to destroy America and overturn our system of government and way of life.
The One West bank sweetheart deal with the FDIC, is somewhat outlined in the link below, but click on the links within and read the comments.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/03/white-house-subversion-obama-hands-soros-bank-favoritism.html
A fervent anti-capitalist, who wants to overturn the system, buys a bank? With Michael Dell?
The sordid Soros history lines up perfectly with BBC leftism. There is a raging antipathy for Israel, for middle America, for capitalism, for free market enterprise, for virtually anything that does not march in lockstep with leftist fascism. The interweaving of plots, schemes and money manipulation with wealthy Middle Easterners hell bent on destroying Israel and America…is a ball of yarn worthy of unraveling.
Unfortunately for the Israelis and the majority of Americans who don’t hate both countries and don’t wish to see them destroyed, we will never get that investigation or unravel that ball of yarn. The mass communication network of JournoListas would rather throw you through a plate glass window, than allow a peek behind it to find the traitorous and treacherous at work. In fact, the leftists are in on the game and are more likely to hide the facts from your view, than to assist in uncovering it.
Now, just why would an affirmed anti-capitalist want to own a bank? And why would a government sword to protect its people, willingly sell it to him in a sweetheart deal? Why are the taxpayers funding 80% of the losses of a privately owned bank? Why do they not have to follow the rules of HAMP or HAFA?
Why does leftism look and sound almost exactly like Hamas or Hezbollah? Why does Time magazine get to slander Jews in Israel and BBC get to front for radical Islam.
The New Nazi’s aren’t coming out of Germany these days. They are goosestepping right across your front yard. The Soros Youth are delivering Time magazine, Newsweek, NYTimes to your doorstep. Welcome to 1939.
Here’s some more about Time magazine
For the Jews in Israel, Money Trumps All?
Was it last week that Time had already accused Israel of being responsible if peace isn’t “ceded” to the Arabs?
I don’t know… There’s a lot Soros has to answer for, but this denunciation is a bit over-the-top. Working for the Nazis during the Holocaust, and picking candidates from one of the two virtually identical parties in a mid-level off-year election: Those two things are not nearly on the same moral plane.
I appreciate the psychopathology in the middle of Mr. Simon’s argument, but at the end what he’s saying is: Opposing the tea-party is morally suspect because Soros is an unapologetic ex-Nazi. IMO, opposing the tea party is not morally suspect. It’s just intellectually incoherent.
Mid-level off year election! Try 2000 when Soros did all
he could to get Gore elected. Now check out 2004 when Soros
did all he could to get Kerry elected. I think 2004 is when
he began MoveOn.org.
Soros did all he could to see G.W. Bush lose the elections.
Soros has and is using his billions to control the outcome
of our elections.
It’s a website; can’t the teaparty members just carbet bomb the comment section.
I was referring to the Synogogue, not the population, which I described as the largest outside of New York. The population figure was given to me by a member of that congregation when I visited two years ago.
Check.
George SCHWARTZ ‘Soros’ is a vile human being who never was prosecuted for his war crimes for his monstrous war-time collaboration. If you read Ezra’s article, it describes how he is – a foreigner – lobbying to prevent a right of centre/conservative television network from getting a broadcasting license in Canada. He despises all freedom. He frightens me.
I once had a patient who was a Judenrat. He was the guy that packed the gas chambers and removed the bodies, as well as the burning. I all my years, I don’t think I have ever meet a more loathsome creature. The man really looked like a rat. I would much preferred to have gone to the chmaber rathar than live with what he did. One special incident was that the Germans were trying to kill everyone before the Russian came. He was pushed in at the last minute. The Germans opened the door to get someone to empty the room and dispose of the bodies. He climbed over others to get out and do the job. If Soros is like this guy then he is truly bad.
It’s stuff like this that makes my blood boil! The largest financier of the American Left is – for all intents and purposes – an ex-Nazi…and yet, is this fact pointed out to the American public? No.
UNBELIEVABLE.
The Republican establishment is comprised of moral cowards who have been cowed into submission by the morally bankrupt Left…they need to be driven out of their positions of power and replaced with PRINCIPLED citizens (conservative or libertarian, doesn’t really matter to me) who are unafraid of calling out and exposing these Leftist cockroaches. And it’s not like it isn’t easy to do: the Left is absolutely SOAKED in the blood of 100+ MILLION victims, and is by far, the most murderous, tyrannical political ideology that that has EVER existed. It’s time for Republican leadership who isn’t afraid to hang these types of facts around the necks of any Leftist who ever DARES to try to conflate the American right with Nazism, racism, etc.
Right on. This is the issue for me: the failure of the Right even to comprehend the enemy, much less respond. If Soros is “going after the Tea Party”, why aren’t we “going after” him?
The Republican establishment is comprised of moral cowards who have been cowed into submission by the morally bankrupt Left…they need to be driven out of their positions of power and replaced with PRINCIPLED citizens (conservative or libertarian, doesn’t really matter to me) who are unafraid of calling out and exposing these Leftist cockroaches.
Unfortunately for what’s left of our tattered Republic, most Republicans are not only moral cowards, they are dirty moral cowards. Addicted to power and the grift. Haunted by Gramsci’s ghost, all of them. Given that context, it’s no surprise that there are virtually none of them willing to stand up and call things by their proper names. Oh, we have a handful of principled Republicans either in office or seeking it. The rise of the Tea Party candidates is encouraging. But perhaps too little, too late.
And it’s not like it isn’t easy to do: the Left is absolutely SOAKED in the blood of 100+ MILLION victims, and is by far, the most murderous, tyrannical political ideology that that has EVER existed.
Rather more than 100 million, I think. Closer to 260 million, perhaps. Prof. R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii has done an outstanding job of enumerating the body count that totalitarians – mostly espousing leftist ideals/ideas – have totted up in the last century. And they’re showing no signs of stopping in this one. You are by now familiar with my take on what drives these mass-murdering monsters. My original essay on this subject is slowly turning into a book. To paraphrase Marx, a spectre is indeed haunting Europe – and the entire world. That spectre is a terrible mutation of what Nietzsche characterized as the will to power. Nietzsche believed that the will to power would produce a new kind of messiah, uninhibited by religious sanctions, without moral restraint of any kind, and with an unappeasable appetite for controlling mankind. That’s the ambition of Soros and those like him.
I believe that ideology as such is merely the Bellerophon that monsters like Mao, Pol Pot and Soros ride on their way to dominus Terra Firma. Here in the West, the sick parade of Utopian-collectivist pornography that passes for leftist thought has proven to be the best possible vehicle for those whose ambition is absolute power and control over every sphere of human thought and endeavor. Not that this is anything particularly new, as the ancient Greeks well knew. It’s just that now, today, these impulses from the dark side of humanity have been given particular reign, scope and efficiency by the rise of collectivist-totalitarian ideology, the loosening of religious sanction and moral restraint against destructive behaviors, and modern technology. Evil always flourishes in a moral vacuum. Who would have thought that the ideas of a bunch of French and German philosophes would have enabled such horrors? As Jean-Francios Revel put it:
It’s time for Republican leadership who isn’t afraid to hang these types of facts around the necks of any Leftist who ever DARES to try to conflate the American right with Nazism, racism, etc.
Yes – and in order to do that, they must also overcome what looks like an intellectual deficit as well a lack of moral courage. Most Republicans have little or no knowledge of history and human nature coupled with a near-total lack of a self-examined life. Nothing gives them pause save for the prospect of losing their seat on the collectivist gravy train. The future of human freedom lies not in booting these clowns off that train just so another crew can take their place, but in derailing the train and blowing up the tracks.
A fear that I share. My only hope is that we can hold on for another 20 years. Why? For good or for ill, Europe has always been the canary in the coal mine for these ideological movements. Considering how much further down the collectivist path they’ve trod, it’s my fervent belief that there is going to be a major political upheaval in Europe over the next 20 years, stemming from 1) the ever-increasing pressure the Eurocrats will try to bring to bear on the native populace; 2) their completely unsustainable entitlement cultures; and 3) the exploding Muslim population that will use the Europeans racial guilt as a cultural garrote to slowly strangle them.
All of these pressures are going to eventually result in a violent explosion that is going to shake the world, and when it happens, I think that it might – might – serve as a wake-up call for Americans about the truly dangerous nature of the Left’s political ideology.
One can only hope and pray.
Agreed. But I chose to go with the firmly established numbers. Besides, like I said, 100+ million outstrips – BY FAR – the death toll of any other organized political movement in all of history…including – yes, Lefties – religious groups.
I almost touched on “the will to power” in our exchange above but decided not too.
Precisely. A glaringly obvious insight to any non-Leftist with even the most rudimentary level of historical knowledge.
Our Founders knew it too. And it was precisely their knowledge of the evil that lurks in the heart of all men that led them to devise a brilliantly simple system that would serve as a bulwark against it; namely, that the best way to prevent tyranny was to deprive the would-be tyrant of the tools of tyranny – i.e., a strong, centralized govt.
Indeed. “Enlightenment”, my a$$. Well, the version that took place on the Continent, anyways.
Unfortunately, an apt diagnosis for probably 70-80% of the American public…and yes, I know that I’m being exceedingly kind with that estimate. It just goes to demonstrate how deeply the Left took to heart Gramsci’s brilliant insight about how to dismantle Western culture and instutions and how far they’ve been able to come in acheiving their goals.
As you stated earlier, I fear that – at this point – the American people may be awakening too far along in the nightmare to avoid a serious fright.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. The Soros’ of the world’s greatest accomplishment has been in fooling hundreds of millions of Westerners into believing that they are urbane gods, never to be sullied by the type of violence our ancestors endured up until half a century ago…if only we’ll give up just a little of our freedom…ok, just a little more…just a li-i-i-t-t-le more. I fear that before we reach the 100 year anniversary of the start of WW2, Westerners will be thorougly disabused of that colossally mistaken notion.
Final prediction: the notion of a unified “Western Civilization” is done for. Continental Europe – especially the Greco/Latin nations – will revert back to “strong man” politics, with the attendant nationalism and top-down, centralized despotism. Britain will undergo a very trying political upheaval, but in the end, will avoid despotism by holding fast to British Enlightenment principles and will join in a slow march back to sanity with the other Anglophile nations (the US, Australia, Canada). Germany will go its own way, though I can’t really hazard a guess as to how it will look politically.
“Am I calling Soros a disturbed person? In probability, yes.”
Must be, when I was 10 I didn’t back a friend up who a bully was picking on… and it still bugs me that I failed to stand up… 30 years later…
Perfectly satanic.
It’s the pseudo-justification that allows all the evil of the world to exist and grow.
The man has evidently signed a pact, and he got what all the evil persons want, the pseudo-power of the dark side.
Now he plays the puppeteer of the socialist revolution in America, but he is himself just the puppet of the saudi money (and he is the only Jew ever admitted in the saudi kingdom).
In the end, a lost soul.
We should pray for him, and I am serious.
I find the discussion of Soros and Hungarian Jewry fascinating and unfortunately misinformed by both “sides”.
It is true that the Hungarians were like all Eastern European peoples infused with resentment towards the Jews, a minority who were heavily overrepresented in their intellectual and professional life. The fascist Arrow Cross organization was a Hungarian Nazi movement. But under Horthy had little power. Jews suffered local massacres and Jewish labor battalions on the Eastern front had low survival. But the mass extermination of the Hungarian Jews only began after the Germans overthrew the Horthy government in mid 1944 and installed Arrow Cross collaborators. Over half of Hungary’s Jews were murdered in just three months.
With that Hungary lost its most productive and educated citizens, the country has never really recovered from that loss as well as fifty years of communist enslavement. The great shame is that Hungary’s Jews produced some of the most brilliant Jews anywhere. John von Neumann, the 20th century’s most brilliant mathematician and father of the modern computer and Leo Szilard, the emotionally unstable, but true inventor of the atomic bomb are two examples.
When the Tea Party first started gaining prominence, April 2009, administration spokespeople like David Axelrod came on the airwaves attacking and demeaning anyone associated with it.
Pelosi joined the game with references like “astroturfers” and even some Nazi allusions.
There is a whole cadre of JournoList type newspeople completely devoted to trashing and demeaning the very deep and profound (not to mention sincere) American Tea Party movement.
The NAACP has been in the mix, under the lame leadership of the lame Ben Jealous.
And Soros has joined the campaign.
All these very transparent and ultimately lame attacks directed by wealthy and high falutin’ Obama administration affiliates and insiders should only strengthen Tea Party resolve to throw all the bums out.
When the soviet’s collapsed, Soros ran to Moscow. With his money. And, set up “Foundations.” This paid money to the intellectual class, who were now without jobs or hope. Their propaganda machinery was dead. Soros went into business setting up new propaganda machinery.
However, Soros ran across Putin. And, Putin turned Soros into “personal non grata” in russia. Soros is terrified of Putin. And, didn’t want to die “funding foundations.”
“Funding Foundations” is the name of the game. And, Soros does it in the west because there are politicians (also bought by the sauds) who love money in their pockets. The Bush Family. James Baker, their consigliari. The Clintons. Tony Blair. They just line up for the bucks. And, in the west the foundations thrive.
On the other hand, you tell me, what’s the big deal with Move.On? Even, what’s the difference funding Obama? Believe it or not the GOP was dead. McCain rode the “dead horse.” Let alone the republicans can’t figure out how to lead; and all you see is that George Soros actually funded one avenue in the west that leads no where. (I wouldn’t want Putin to be in charge. But Putin? He’d kill Soros, and eat his liver for lunch. But Soros no longer comes to moscow.)
Roger-
Glad you mentioned Soros’ latest “investment” in political discourse – Teapartytracker.org. I urge you all to visit it if not for the unintended humor. Their centerpiece is a photo slideshow of what they term dangerous extremists caught at TP events which consists mostly of regular folks with signs like “Taxed Enough Already” and some wearing revolutionary war era hats- truly scary and subversive stuff!
Soros reminds me of the diabolical villains portrayed in James Bond novels and the 1960′s movie spy thrillers. He seems bent on the destruction of whole countries for his own gain.
Given his war time connection with the National Socialists, is his citizenship at risk? Is he any different than a prison camp guard? Does he go back to Hungary or would we honor a warrant from someplace like Malaysia?
“Monster” is a decent description. But I believe it, as well as the previous replys, misses the real explaination. “EVIL” personified is more accurate. I think Satan is real, and Soros is one of his lead servants for accomplishing evil in the world.
If Soros had an island fortress with a solar death ray, he’d BE a James Bond villain.
And like some others, I too would like to know what Soros was up to in September 2008. This is a guy with a long history of manipulating financial markets and attempting to influence elections.
Mr. Soros is out-maned and outnumbered.
It will be good to see the spoiled rich man fail.
While everyone here is focusing on Soros’s teapartytracker.com site, an item appeared in today’s news. He is planning on giving $100 million (yes, million) to Human Rights Watch, the group that is obsessed with Israel’s “crimes.” They were discredited this past year by no less than their former chairman, yet Soros, the personification of the self-hating Jew, desires to give them a fortune of money so they can continue on their path to Israel’s delegitimization.
Notwithstanding his need for our prayers…
I hereby propose to call him
George SSoros
in 2004 mark halperin, then political director of abcnews, wrote the memo that acknowledged that both bush and kerry would lie, encouraged his news department to ‘weight’ the lies.
the memo in toto:
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Halperin Memo Dated Friday October 8, 2004
It goes without saying that the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns – and our responsibilities become quite grave
I do not want to set off (sp?) and endless colloquy that none of us have time for today – nor do I want to stifle one. Please respond if you feel you can advance the discussion.
The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done.
Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win.
We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn’t mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides “equally” accountable when the facts don’t warrant that.
I’m sure many of you have this week felt the stepped up Bush efforts to complain about our coverage. This is all part of their efforts to get away with as much as possible with the stepped up, renewed efforts to win the election by destroying Senator Kerry at least partly through distortions.
It’s up to Kerry to defend himself, of course. But as one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest. Now is the time for all of us to step up and do that right.
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why bring up halperin’s infamous memo?
his father, morton halperin, is close friends with soros and sits on the advisory committee of soros’ Open Society Insitute. Soros has his grubby little fingers in many of our political venues.
love to know how much dailykos received from the man.
Funny how the left has discovered/tried to tie the koch brothers to the gop, when the nexus between soros and the dems, our msm, and liberal bloggers is waay more overt.
he’ll die soon, as all his money won’t buy him another day on this earth…hope he lives long enough to see liberals go down in flames.
Soros is a sociopath. I’ve thought that not long after I first heard his story some years back.
But even Soros has two inherent weaknesses. I have great faith in the American public, as in We the People. He can’t defeat all of us. And all your money Mr. Soros won’t another minute buy.
Your days are numbered and your reputation in shatters. In the end, that is all you have left and all that will matter.
Soros is a major player in a long held dream of a global government without G-d. The Bible reads such a government will occur, and will be destroyed.
Nimrod played his role after the flood for Lucifer well. Soros is doing a much better job before the wrath of G-d is sent on a world that believes it can be it’s own god.
The Tea party members do not seem to be globalists like Soros, and the CFR. Therefore, the attack.
Time To Play
“Follow The Money!!!…and Link It To The Democrats!!!”
It’s high time to turn the tables on the members of this cynical, trash-mouthed Party.
They took every little chance to belittle and discredit Republicans.
When there was no cause to do so, they often INVENTED one.
Ruin the Democrats with Soros, his money, his pathology.
After the end of the Cold War it was discovered that Armand Hammer was the bagman for Comintern and its successors. There was a lot speculation in the IC as to who would have replaced him. George Soros was one of the main candidates. As Roger noted that during most of the 90′s he seemed to be a sponsor for the emerging free countries of the former Soviet bloc. Soros’ move to the left was coincident with the rise of Vladimir Putin and his former KGB cronies. My guess is that they called in their chits. When you work for the Devil, the Devil gets his do
George Soros is the prime example why we can not allow just any one into our Country.
The fictional character most like soros is the Red Dragon. Writer Thomas Harris
I believe that Mr. Soros’ last name before it was changed to Soros was Schwarz.
In German, that means black.
I can’t think of a more appropriate colour for George Soros. His actions are despicable and he doesn’t care. I suspect, however, that all of his pride means that he is heading for a fall. Although he’s an atheist, G*d will know how to deal with him: Vengeance is mine, says the Lord.
And He means it.
I’m not an atheist!
Lets be honest. There were plenty of Jews who would have been proud Nazis had not the Nazis hated them. Many Jews were enthusiastic socialists and there were plenty who fled to America who found nothing to like in capitalist America. Give them a nice sophisticated back stabbing class ridden European environment and its their idea of paradise. Its a phenomenon that I have read about and it would have been quite easy for the Nazis to find their potential kapos and Judenrats. You can be sure the Nazis did not look for Jews who went to synagogue on Shabbos, were active Zionists, etc. They found the double dealers and despisers and they knew who they were before an official Nazi ever existed.
soros would have become a serial killer because he has all the symptoms and signs of one. these people have some sort of brain damage, it’s the rush of the kill as they describe their murders to which they are addicted. for soros, it is the money and the power that has the feeling of a rush.
destroying, like killing, is the rush and the money to do it and the power to get it done is the path soros obsessively follows.
I’ve found that people who have a very creepy and sordid past, one filled with deeds they would prefer not to revisit are often the most devoted when it comes to some grand ideological cause. They are true believers when it comes to saving the human race or some equally grandiose purpose; but beneath the surface is a cold-blooded tyrant, trying to climb the greasy pole under the banner of mankind, but, once there, wholly vicious, narcissistic and bloodthirsty. Stalin comes to mind, and so does Che. Far too many men of the Left were just these sort of power-hungry lunatics. Soros also strikes me as the type.
rog, i wrote extensively about Soros–including a very long section from the terrifying “60 Minutes” interview–in “Accomplice to Evil.”
You are right. He’s a monster.
What do Mossad and Bibi say?
Soros is now and has been an agent provocateur of the now defunct USSR. Before that he collaborated with the Nazis, to save his own skin, or so he says.
He is an enemy of freedom as we understand it, everywhere. He is certainly an enemy of the people and the Constitution of the Unitied States.
Had I the power to do so, I would compel Georgi Soros to surrender all of his wealth and property to the United States government and then deport him back to the Eastern European shithole he crawled out of.
He has apparently collaborated with every totalitarian regime he has ever adopted. If John Demjanjuk is deportable as a war criminal from Treblinka and Sobibor, then so is this creature.
Soros deserves the fate of the Ceaucescus.
I, for one, am very heartened by the fact that this man named soros is so afraid of what us tea partiers are really capable of. Dare we spoil the old boys investments???
Maybe Soros will die soon
Beautiful, Liberty!!! There is a strong confirmation of your thesis in a real life.
SARAH PALIN!
Hasn’t the Soros-Obama’s monstrous propaganda machine tried to destroy her using all the methods taken from the manual written when the communists were taking over the Eastern Europe after the WW2?
Still she single-handedly managed not only to survive but is constantly winning.
So perhaps good is indeed stronger than evil and malice…
Great!
Where can I sign up?
Anything that drives that bat bastard crazy is a good cause.
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Any ideas on how to get rid of fat A$$ Michael Moore?
We desperately need a full scale investigation of soros before the 2010 election. And we need it to continue on leading up to the 2012 election. We need soros to be looking over his shoulder at the American people instead of the other way around.
Sometimes I think we need to give these people some of their own medicine. The group teapartytracker.org should be labeled tea party stalkers an anti-free speech group. Lets stick that to them that they are stalkers obsessed with drowning out free speech for everyone except themselves. It does really tell us that it is a threat to the power SOROS is achieving. I I wish some individual who is hurt by their slander and name calling could sue them for all their worth.
George Soros wants what he wants and he is willing to buy it. He certainly put up millions to defeat George Bush and he put up more millions to help Obama win. He may even be the “shadow” behind this administration directing it to ruin. He certainly is the director behind the Democratic Party as he works through such organizations as Center for American Progress, The Open Society Institute, American Constitution Society (where he advocates “a progressive vision of what the Constitution ought to be.”) America Votes, Democracy Alliance, the New Democrat Network, the New Politics Institute, ACORN and, of course, MoveOn.org.
He certainly does not like this country and has said so in his book “The Age of Fallibility”, “The main obstacle to a stable and just world is the United States.” He also has made it clear he is against Israel in the New York Review of Books in April of 2008.
George Soros wants a world order so he can control all of the world and not just the United States so he can make us pay. This is a man who has no compassion for his fellow man and no desire to be brought down to his level. He loves what he does and he continues to use his money to buy what he wants and play with other peoples lives. He is a destroyer without remorse. He is anti-America, anti-Tea Party, anti-Capitalism, anti-Israel, anti-Christianity, anti-morality (this includes funding legalization of drugs, and Euthanasia. Soros provided $15 million in initial funding for Project Death in America (PDIA), whose headquarters are located at Columbia University’s College of Physicians & Surgeons. In an interview with the New Yorker (January 23, 1995), Soros recounted his father’s battle with cancer and voiced disapproval at the senior Soros’s unwillingness to die. According to Soros, his father “…unfortunately wanted to live… I was kind of disappointed in him … I wrote him off.” George Soros’s promotion of death can also be traced to his mother, who was a member of the Hemlock Society (a pro suicide organization) and committed suicide.) George Soros is pro-George Soros. Soros declared, “1 fancied myself as some kind of God,” and appears determined to replace Judeo-Christian moral values with the rules of his “Open Society.” His policy agenda is the extension of his motto, “If I spend enough, I will make it right.” “I am sort of deus ex machina- I am something unnatural,” Unnatural alright, downright evil.
Hg/95; speaking of the mass-death green-cult inside the Soros wing (specifically, how direct-action agents such as Weathermen might be responding), note the affiliations listed toward the end of the memo.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/andy-stern-joins-sigas-board-of-directors-2010-06-21
…and gird your loins.
What will Soros do now that his boy (Obamao) is tanking?
Will he take him out and get Hillary in there? We need to watch who he backs next. Hillary and Soros are tight.
Soros = sauron = the abhorred.
Yep. Like all those democratic movements in Eastern Europe he supported to help the fall of communism. (Sorry you consider them ultra-liberal.) Supporter of democracy there, supporter of democracy here. He’s just being consistent.
See, for instance, http://www.newstatesman.com/200306020019
“The conventional view, shared by many on the left, is that socialism collapsed in eastern Europe because of its systemic weaknesses and the political elite’s failure to build popular support. That may be partly true, but Soros’s role was crucial. From 1979, he distributed $3m a year to dissidents including Poland’s Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union. In 1984, he founded his first Open Society Institute in Hungary and pumped millions of dollars into opposition movements and independent media. Ostensibly aimed at building up a “civil society”, these initiatives were designed to weaken the existing political structures and pave the way for eastern Europe’s eventual colonisation by global capital.”
From the Washington Post Sunday:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/11/AR2010091105057.html?wpisrc=nl_headline
“The $100 million gift to Human Rights Watch from billionaire George Soros announced last week will extend the overseas presence of the influential American rights champion and ensure its financial health for years to come.”
Jesus, Roger, what a horrible person you are. Calling Soros a Nazi collaborator is over the top. Does the right even listen to themselves anymore?
This is the best part. The left has a Move On org ad from years ago–one that was “refudiated,” meanwhile the right has Glenn Beck, who has Nazi Tourettes and he’s probably viewed by 90% of the right wingers on this site. And of course PJM promotes his book and defends him come what may.
Stay classless.
That Tea Party tracker isn’t the only one spying on people the estate44 account on twitter keeps posting supposed tea party posts and rightwingwatch ? is stalking people too
Boris, you’re a scream. Just when you’ve set up your point, that the rhetoric (even the truthful stuff about Soros) is too ‘over the top’, you punch out with ‘Glenn Beck has Nazi Tourettes’ –yuk yuk –good one –
(BTW, Does the right even listen to themselves anymore? should be “Does the right even listen to itself anymore?”)
PS; …word to the wise for future posturing, the ‘horrible person’ and ‘stay classless’ are also counter the stated thesis, and thus expensive to the credibility account.
I think you missed the thesis, buddy. The thesis is: do not be a hypocrite. Roger pounds Soros for a Move On ad that was rightly removed–but says nothing about all the Nazi comparisons from Glenn Beck et. al.
Boris, i guess at some point the irreducible ‘which side are you on?’ point is reached. And you do have a point, that Glenn Beck is doing as much to beclown the left as Soros is doing to subvert the center.
But just to belabor a point, a thesis sentence generally opens or closes a statement, and yours is technically in Jesus, Roger, what a horrible person you are. Calling Soros a Nazi collaborator is over the top.
The two problems leaping immediately to mind are that your signal ‘exaggeration is bad’ is squelched by the ‘Jesus, Roger, what a horrible person you are’ (if Roger is horrible, what words do have left for Jack the Ripper and Vlad the Impaler?), and the second is that as a matter of fact, Soros –as he himself has admitted several times –DID work with the Nazis. Ergo, even tho he was but a teenager, still it leaves his (his agents) liberal use of Nazi imagery to attack oppo (such as GWBush) open to someone returning the serve, so to speak, without becoming anywhere near ‘horrible’ for the doing.
So long/short, IMHO your thesis statement construction contains both a rhetorical inconsistency and a logic drop. The imputation is content and context renders it clearly an assertion, so no fault there.
Apparently you think I’m writing a term paper rather than a comment on a blog.
Yes, Roger is a horrible person for smearing Soros with the slur “Nazi Collaborator.” Maybe you don’t know that this term has a hugely negative definition. It is not appropriate for use in describing Jews who were forced into working closely with Nazis to hide and keep from being sent to the ovens. It is especially heinous to heap these accusations on someone who was a child at the time. Roger is not merely calling Soros a horrible person, he is slurring him with one of the vilest smears imaginable. I would have no problem with anyone saying Soros is a horrible person–hell, maybe he is. But Roger wouldn’t even car about any of this if Soros wasn’t a political enemy. This is just a gotcha–unless Roger is going to write a column about all the evil Jewish boys and girls who worked with the Nazis simply to save their own lives and the lives of their families.
And, as I’ve said before, the Move On.org ad quickly removed from the website. It wasn’t even created by anyone paid by Soros, but by was submitted to the website by a third party.
Not nearly as heinous as said Jew stating that he feels no guilt about what he did because “If I wasn’t doing it, somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. Whether I was there or not. So I had no sense of guilt.”
You know what you call someone who collaborated with the Nazis and who feels no remorse about said collaboration?
A Nazi.
Awww…and you’re just sooooo torn up about someone being unfairly slurred as a Nazi, right? Then it should be no problem for you to provide us with a few links to posts you’ve written condemning other Leftists for their CONSTANT, UNREMITTING slurs of “Nazi!” against George Bush, the Tea Party, Glenn Beck, etc.
Chop-chop, Bore-Us.
I’m sorry George Soros doesn’t feel the remorse you think he should feel. I don’t think he should feel guilty either. He was forced into doing what he did because people were trying to put him in an oven. You and Roger think this means that he was trying to put other people in an oven. Not only is that an idiotic, illogical position, it’s an abhorrent one.
There were plenty of Jews who refused to do what Soros did – they had a moral line they wouldn’t cross. There were plenty of Jews who did what Soros did but felt guilty about their actions – they had a conscience.
Soros did it…and doesn’t feel any guilt about it. That’s because he’s a disgusting, morally decrepit Leftist piece of sh!t. And so are you for defending him.
Still don’t see those links to any of your posts where you berate Leftists for the endless litany of “Nazi!” accusations they hurl at Republicans/conservatives. Where are they, Bore-Us?
The reason why I don’t see those links is because they don’t exist. The reason why they don’t exist is because you have no problem when that type of invective is thrown at Republicans/conservatives…you only have a problem when it’s thrown at an actual Nazi collaborator. And the reason you have problem with it being thrown at an actual Nazi collaborator is because that collaborator is a Leftist, which means that all of you other Leftists will defend him no matter what.
You’re an intellectually dishonest hack and always have been since you first started posting her a few years back, Bore-Us.
You have it back.wards, rvastar. I think it’s clear why you and Roger are pummeling Soros for this: you hate him.
But you are a clueless asshole, so who even cares?
But you are a clueless asshole, so who even cares?
Maybe…but at least I’m the not an apologist for an unrepentant Nazi collaborator…all because my fragile self-image won’t allow me to admit any fault in my ideological worldview.
How does it feel to be a spineless, intellectually dishonest, morally decrepit whiner?
That you think I am spineless and intellectually dishonest is a complement. If you ever start a sentence with “Boris makes a good point…” I would probably worry.
Just keep blindly listening to the Coulters of the world and see how far you get.
All those quotes from Mr. Ezra Levant? They are lies. Levant has now apologized and retracted his article.
http://www.torontosun.com/comment/2010/09/17/15388356.html
Of course it was all lies. I see that the paper and the author have apologized “unreservedly” to Soros for this smear. Now, will Roger Simon? Somehow (and to his shame) I think he won’t.
Boris to make this nice and easy for even you to understand: Soros is a Kapo. Pure and simple. That link was a boilerplate statement by the Sun’s lawyers. Said statement does not however erase the words the kapo Soros said to Steve Kroft on 60 minutes nor does it get your scumbag puppet master off the hook for what he did and continues to do to kill, destroy and degrade humans. I am comforted with the reality that Kapo Soros will be soon be facing a Higher Court where none of his money, lies and influence cannot change the outcome. Soli Deo Gloria.
George Soros is a Bolshevik of the highest order.
Keep in mind that the worst of the inqusition was an ex Jew-Its too bad that old George S-has 3 or 4 sons with instrutions on how to continue his evil plans-In my own poor way I will do everything to help the Tea party and the 912ers-I will also pray for his soul, nad all the deluded paid minions he owns-
The threads here were fascinating and somewhat tiresome in a few cases. The article wasn’t an indictment of the Hungarian people. Truth be known, the world should be held accountable for the Holocaust, including the USA for e.g. not allowing the ship filled with Jews to dock here. How many died because no one would give them refuge?
That said, the real issue is George Soros. Yes, he’s Jewish biologically, and that’s about where it ends. His “atheism” exists because Soros is his own god; and he hates competition from the real God of the Universe. That makes him not only sociopathic and psychopathic, it makes him even more narcissistic than the current usurper in the White House. One could certainly make the claim, as the article did so well, that Soros is a monster . . . or evil inside and out. Evil loves to destroy for the sake of destruction. It loves to rob souls and keep them from what some call archaic fantasy and others know to be divine truth. One could also make the claim that Soros loves evil and supports it . . . that he guards it and makes every effort to protect it. His history clearly shows that to be true. His belief that someone else would have done the evil he did during the Holocaust is not finite. Had he not been evil, he would have said, “Someone else will have to do those things because I cannot. My faith means more to me than staying alive. My relationship with God means more.” But he couldn’t and he didn’t say those things.
There is a time coming in the future when every knee will bow before God–even Soros. In the meantime, we must be wiser than he is and harmless where he isn’t.
I know that my great uncle was in the battle of the bulge in world war 2 and that we won against the nazi’s.so yes there was a holocaust,i think it would be hard to make up pictures and films of jews being shot ,just to fall in mass trenches to be buried some alive. that would be hard to get the jews to go along with such a grand lie.
SOROS, is evil. In my opinion from all that I have read about him since 2007, supporting Obama, etc. he
is Satan himself and he has his dogs, Obama being one of them.
why soros never give any$$$$2israel WHY WHY???????
Sounds like Soros was reading from the same talking points that Cardinal Ratzinger used.
One’s the leader of one of the largest religions in the world and the other’s a multi-billionaire. (I hope we ignore the lesson there.)
One escapes any scrutiny on the issue at all, yet the other drives conservatives into a moralistic frenzy (primarily due to his political leanings – let’s be honest.)
Moral relativism as a basis for one’s moral outrage. Deep!
Golly, after reading Soro’s inspiring biography, I really have to admire the guy for all of his accomplishments and all that he has given back to help the disadvantaged in our world.
Soros is ironically similiar to the word sorrow. JEHOVAH shall surely strike thee down, just as David smote Goliath by the hand of YHWH !!!!!!!
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