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Sum Ting Wong

July 13th, 2013 - 3:39 pm

Ironies abound. For example, even  as Dick Durbin  defined  journalists as anyone who got a media paycheck, a San Francisco news outlet demonstrated that they were not exempt from making stupid mistakes.

And the worst mistake would be to underestimate the Chinese. Gordon Chang at the Gatestone Institute argues that Edward Snowden, rather than being a mere “whistleblower” or even an ordinary spy, may actually have been a “dropbox” for an even bigger spy cell within the NSA and the FBI. In other words, he was just the tip of the iceberg.

This theory explains how Snowden could possess information to which he did not have access. It is possible he figured out how to bypass barriers in NSA’s systems, but it is more likely he had help. Eli Lake of the Daily Beast reports that the FBI is investigating whether Snowden obtained documents “from a leak inside the secret FISA court.” Similarly, Mike Rogers, chairman of the House Select Committee on Intelligence, has suggested Snowden probably had an accomplice in the NSA who gave him information.

Beijing may also have encouraged Mr. Snowden to leave Hawaii. One of my sources indicates that Chinese intelligence, either directly or through FBI personnel working for China, tipped Snowden off that NSA investigators were closing in on him.

There still is no proof of this allegation, but it is telling that Snowden chose to run to Hong Kong.

This theory implies that not just American intelligence, but its counterintelligence apparatus has been penetrated and compromised. Some of the bad guys are not only the perps, they’re also the cops.

The word some of you may be thinking of is rootkit. Suppose the Chinese or the Russians — or the Saudis — have instead of infiltrating ordinary spies, managed to install a rootkit in the US government? “A rootkit is a stealthy type of software, often malicious, designed to hide the existence of certain processes or programs from normal methods of detection and enable continued privileged access to a computer.” In plain language, suppose they managed to take over the United States government from the top. This is how computers are sometimes attacked and it is where the term “rootkit” comes from.

A “rootkit” in this case would be a network of enemy agents placed high up in trusted positions of great power, in such a situation of trust they could hardly ever be questioned.

Of course the idea of takeover from the top is an old one. Julius Caesar understood it in principle. ““The greatest enemy will hide in the last place you would ever look.” Nor was he wrong. The Roman Empire was dealt a near mortal blow by an enemy from within. The Romanized barbarian Arminius led Varus and his legions into an ambush in the Teutoberg forest, a setback from which the imperium arguably never recovered. Rootkits are deadly.

Once installed, it becomes possible to hide the intrusion as well as to maintain privileged access. The key is the root/Administrator access. Full control over a system means that existing software can be modified, including software that might otherwise be used to detect or circumvent it.
Rootkit detection is difficult because a rootkit may be able to subvert the software that is intended to find it. Detection methods include using an alternative and trusted operating system, behavioral-based methods, signature scanning, difference scanning, and memory dump analysis. Removal can be complicated or practically impossible, especially in cases where the rootkit resides in the kernel; reinstallation of the operating system may be the only available solution to the problem. When dealing with firmware rootkits, removal may require hardware replacement, or specialized equipment. …

The fundamental problem with rootkit detection is that if the operating system has been subverted, particularly by a kernel-level rootkit, it cannot be trusted to find unauthorized modifications to itself or its components. Actions such as requesting a list of running processes, or a list of files in a directory, cannot be trusted to behave as expected. In other words, rootkit detectors that work while running on infected systems are only effective against rootkits that have some defect in their camouflage, or that run with lower user-mode privileges than the detection software in the kernel. As with computer viruses, the detection and elimination of rootkits is an ongoing struggle between both sides of this conflict

About the only way the public can tell that Sum Ting Wong is detecting behavioral anomalies in the system. The OS will report itself clean because the OS has been taken over. Therefore the only clues are that things no longer work as before. The system is perverse.  It gives manifestly wrong outputs. And often the only fix is to reboot from a known clean copy of the OS, which in this case would be the US Constitution — a document more than a hundred years old that nobody reads.

The fact that Snowden fled to Hong Kong and then Russia strongly suggests that the rootkit — if in fact it does exist — has not completely taken over the system. There was still someone left to come after him. But the fact that he got so far and that efforts to spread surveillance into every aspect of American life have gotten even further imply that, Ho Lee Fuk, the malware is well along.

The usual solution to this kind of problem is a political reboot, whose main goal is to purge the system of bad information. Over time garbage accumulates in the memory space of an information system and unless it is purged, then it is Bang Ding Ow! for its processes. We do this for our own computers, but think that “permanent majorities” are a good thing in government. Yet they are not. With the government collecting information on everyone and the (Chinese, Russians, Saudis) abstracting it in turn, we are Wi Tu Lo at this point.


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your average reader wrote: "Snowden's exact status - whether dupe, agent, or officer of the MSS or SVR - is besides the point. "

Let me be blunt. If you really wanted to sound like an 'average reader' -- instead of an Obaminoid plant -- you would also have included the other possibility, that Snowden is exactly what he says he is: a loyal American who is shocked that his Government is unconstitutionally spying on ordinary US citizens. That possibility certainly fits Occam's Razor.

It is no surprise that governments spy on each other. It is a great surprise to get confirmation that the US government spies so thoroughly on its own citizens -- the people to whom that Government notionally reports.

As to Snowden having access to things he should not have been able to see -- Occam's Razor again suggests that there are (hopefully!) other Americans in the NSA who are just as disgusted as he was about the Administration's betrayal of the Constitution. They shared things with Snowden, but were not prepared to take the risk that he did in coming out.

Until we see convincing evidence to the contrary, Snowden is a whistleblower, not a spy. Anyone who says anything different is either not thinking, or is a mouthpiece for an out-of-control Obama Administration. Our loyalty is to the Constitution, not to the fallible (or corrupt) individual who happens to live in the taxpayer-provided White House.
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When the Administration concludes the only way they can continue ruling is by rounding up and jailing everyone who is utterly disgusted and fed up with the reckless destruction of this country by its self-mutilating behavior, they will find they have to put the majority of the population behind barbed wire.

They won't have enough people who actually know how to do anything useful to keep the lights on, the crops growing, the trains running, the propaganda machines churning out lies, or the toilets flushing. Life inside the FEMA camps may very well be more livable than outside.

The society will certainly be more bearable.

Seriously, though...

When push comes to shove, it's likely that Mr. Jefferson's comment about the tree of Liberty will prove prophetic.

Just for instance, "Fast and Furious" continues to produce fruit of the sort that would have brought other governments crashing down. But all the safeguards have been compromised. The institutions that were designed to temper criminal, traitorous, and deviant behavior WITHIN the government have been disabled and by-passed.

We are in that period of the flight of Japan Air Lines flight 123, after losing its rudder shortly after take-off in August of 1985; We continue in what seems to be controlled flight, but the prospects for an orderly landing are negligible. None in the crew compartment are competent in any aspect of even routine navigation, much less an emergency.

To refresh memory, that JAL hull - a 747 SR46 which had logged almost 19,000 takeoff/landing cycles - lost its vertical stabilizer ("rudder?") after an explosive decompression incident shortly after take-off from Haneda airport near Osaka, Japan and continued flying for another half-hour before crashing into a mountainside, killing some 520 crew and passengers of the 524 souls on board. This was despite the strenuous and creative efforts of an experienced and professional crew, not a bunch of pathetic amateurs.

We have on our team a crew that has read the Classics Illustrated version of the flight manual, and thinks that they can bully the aircraft into proper maneuvering by shouting Marxist dialectics at the cockpit controls.

God Help this country.
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It's hard for me to tell when people here are talking seriously, or when they're just sort of playing a prose online game.

When the U.S. finally collapses I don't think we'll find anything as elegant as a gang of superspies who've infiltrated the White House, Congress, the Supreme Court and the National Cathedral. I think it'll look just like all the other collapsed empires throughout history, where men got greedy and figured that taking "just a little bit" couldn't possibly hurt because so many others had done so before and the colossal structure had always been able to absorb the damage.

After a month of this Snowden story, it looks like people have gotten impatient with the facts. Like the Russians trying to crack the code of American imbecility in the Middle East, we're fed up with the script we've been handed and we're writing a new one. A better, more exciting one, with worthy adversaries and diabolical challenges. It makes us feel better about losing.

But actually the story is just what it was a month ago - the government is corrupt and rotten to the core, and it wasn't really very hard for someone who knew where to look to find the proof of it. And since nobody wants to do anything about it, it's less embarrassing to explain America's slide into slavery by positing the existence of some gang of super-plotters, too powerful to combat.
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Hey Belmont Clubbers who happen to pay American taxes...looks like we could soon be paying for those who pop in here to tell us to stop worrying and put away the tin foil hats and love the NSA!

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/07/12/us_backs_off_propaganda_ban_spreads_government_made_news_to_americans
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I have reached much the same conclusion as Blert.

If this was carefully planned intelligence operation, then they seemed to have left out the Escape and Evasion portion.

Perhaps the intent all along was to leave Snowden hanging, but that seems sloppy at best. Even if he already has been pumped dry it would be far better to place him in a gilded cage and retain him for future use, such as prisoner exchange or other bargaining chip, if nothing else.

Instead we seem to have a situation right out of the TV series, The Americans. "You'll like Moscow! It's very cosmopolitian and the sking is great!" And in reality it's obvious that such a fate is inferior to a one room apartment in Guadalupe, CA.

I would like to see a correlation between Snowden's actions and the Obama Admin scandals. At what point did he perhaps realize that the people in power could not be trusted?
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My timeline starts with PRISM data being used to burn Petraeus.
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sorry for my american fiends, I wrote this comment on TE tonight


"this tread might be closed down tonight

so we all agree that we don't agree

p'tain, the NSA will have hard time to decipher a dominating opinion

Hello my friends from across the pond, my best wishes to your family, you're doing such a boring job, hey, if it's for feeding your family, you're excused

you know, we, the Europeans, are such bysantine people we can't agree on one single path for wealth, that you know what it is. Hey, some of us are in a survival process, or a wishful process, we haven't a predetermined future, certainly not the future that some formated Goldman & Sachs elite wants us to adopt, we are chicaning like our elders used to do in our old play ground yards. You can't change the Brits, the French the Germans, and that is worrying you because we are your supposed wise elders.

but depends on your definition of wiseness, it's relative, like Einstein should have tought you

you, see, this week I have seen "Stalingrad" movie from Jean Jacques Annaud on french TV channel, then the german version of 1993, then the older versions from Youtude (even in German), and all were about fierce combats, but also of humanity. the Germans weren't all the Nazis we were told, some paid of their life their rebellion, seen that in Stalingrad, the nazis officers took the plane off like you, the Good men took the helicopter from your Saigon Embassy when there wasn't any hope anymore, leaving the sans-grades to their sad fate

so, Mr Americans, you ain't better than us"

uh, while would think that I appreciate vin rouge, tonight it's vin roséb (Tavel)

hmm Snowden, another con artist for what we all know !
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Were is vin roséb (Tavel) from?
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Well, about the vin rouge, it just seemed like viewpoints were being expressed that were different from those we have come to expect from our beloved Marie Claude.

I recall an interesting conversation with the propriétaire du tabac on a bicycle trip from La Brede to Bordeaux. She insisted that I drink vin rouge rather than Coca Cola! Mon dieu! Did she realize how difficult it is to cycle after a little vin rouge on a hot day.
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;-)
it's also hard to get a beer in Bordeaux restaurants, they look at you if you were some degenerate
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What, we find George Zimmerman not guilty and now we are all fiends?
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Can I buy an R?
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Hope you enjoyed your Bastille Day, our dear Marie Claude!
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thanks, Bastile doesn't mean much to us anymore, but what our allies are doing with us. It should be noticed that the Chadiians were our best allies in Europe, also the Americans with their planes and intelligence drones
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Marie, it seems to me there is a clear fight going on inside Germany between the EUrocrats who want to do any dirty work D.C. asks them to do -- and even set the rationalization hamster spinning when it comes to stealing from British and Cypriot retirees savings -- and a very small but very smart 'Eurasianist' faction in German politics and industry that knows the 4th Reich's future is in the East. Always was, in fact, since Bismarck despite all the misdirection towards Turkey. It seems for now since Cyprus the 'Atlanticts' (Germany as part of Oceania, really) will have the euro circle the toilet bowl with the dollar all the way down, until later this decade the German people finally have enough of their crap and throw them out. Unfortunately because German citizenship is a very tough thing to get and involves renouncing all other passports, there is no option of a cunning Greek getting in after Merkel's successor and saying to hell with the euro let's go to a euro-mark or Nordic mark. But very smart guys like Jim Willie insist that remains the end game, which presumably leaves France back on the franc and any sucker who bought French gov debt getting renominated in francs from euros.

Tough crap, banksters! Hopefully by then they won't be able to make up the difference with explosive devaluation Russia in 1998 style.
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Actually, it seems that Merkel is not having some warm relations with Putin, well may-be she is posturing for appeasing the german voters, she wants the maximum of voices for her reelection in September, so that she still can direct the coalition government of Germany.

It's true that a significant number of Germans would prefer that their policy would expend at east, at least with Poland (for replacing France)

Well Germany doesn't want to let the euro down, it was so benefitful for her trades surpluses within the EZ, but if France was to leave (or forced to leave by the markets), the euro will not have any justification anymore, everyone will have to swallow the bitter pill, especially the german people savings will disappear for the third time in a century. So this chaos happening is not wished, at lleast until the german elections, we'll know then the verdict of the Karlsruhe Court, or Merkel will opt for eurobonds, until 60% of the national debts...

I don't think that Germany wants a common fate with Russia or China, as all these countries think that they are unique and nationalist.

Germany is trying to sell goods with trade surpluses, so long she can, because it's a aging country, time is coounted for her, in the next decade, France and or Britain will become more important again

But Merkel still is a soviet style leader, she is dreaming to become the general secretary of EZ, with vassal countries at german economy service.

pity we have that Flanby as a president, leaders like De Gaulle and Mitterrand aren't to be seen in our horizon soon

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But at any rate, as with Molotov Ribbentropp Germany is THE pivot state. If they decide to go with the Russia-China monetary economium it's game over for the dollar as we've known it. Sure dollars will still exist in the 2020s but they'll be more like Mexican pesos, drachmae, lira or pesetas. Since I've underestimated how long the banksters can keep the game going I have to push out my time horizons to probably 2020-25. That's congruent with 4th turning theory and also when members of Gen Y and elder Gen X finally get in power when the Baby Boomers haven't succeeded in turning themselves into immortal cyborgs after all.
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People from Chad?

By the way, I am reading a book about WWII events in Jouy-le-Chatel. Based on the pictures, looks like a nice place.

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no the Chadian soldiers that made the hardest work with the French's, in Mali, while the Europeans were telling us good luck, but without helping

Jouy le Chatel is looking lake most of the old french villages
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your average reader wrote: "The program was started under Bush, who I voted for ..."

That is the standard line from an Obaminoid plant -- Chimpy McBusHitler started it! Please try harder. Barry Soetero needs all the help he can get.

"I'm going to get a job at Booz Allen, steal NSA data as soon as possible, then fly to China... I mean Hong Kong."

When you put it that way, it really becomes obvious how improbable the Regime line is. If someone were going to steal data as a committed spy, then why make such a scene on leaving? Why not just tiptoe out the door? Why leave at all? Why not keep on spying?

Occam's Razor -- Snowden's behavior is completely inconsistent with his being a spy, or even just a guy out to line his pocket. However, his behavior is entirely consistent with a patriot disgusted as the unconstitutional behavior of the regime which has taken over the US. Especially when that regime has drones, and is protected by the silence of a lapdog media.
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Glad somebody finally smacked down the Obamabots, Palantir sockpuppets and two-legged GS drones frequenting Belmont Club comments.
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May I posit the illegals waiver legislation as a rootkit of the highest order?

That by this augmentation to our polity, the US Constitution is lobotomized?

In the beginning, the Founders limited voting rights to the landed few.

Now, the opfor is busing in aliens by the mega-load to vote askew.

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This is how the bad signal created by China works through the rare earth business and the thorium debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZLPqA3eKtY
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HUGE technical errors at the podium by your expert:

Luftwaffe -- for octane reasons -- HAD to be fueled overwhelmingly from Ploesti petroleum. Nazi Germany used coal-to-liquids for motor vehicles and jet fighters. His commentary about the fuel quality was quite incorrect.

He also dips into Spindletop -- placing it circa 1860 (!!!) off more than forty-years.

As for fossil energy -- fracking has made his big push low priority.

The BIG problem with U-233 (nee Thorium) reactors is at the containment wall. It can't be cured. The experts went through the entire periodic table trying to find any critter that could tolerate hot Fluorine -- the essential halogen for ALL molten salt reactor designs.

Like the electric car -- the molten salt reactor will be ALWAYS just around the corner.

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Here in the SF Bay Area there's a new food craze. Seems like Asian restaurants specializing in gristly meat and tough, stringy vegetables are suddenly popular.

My neighborhood version is called "House of Chu."
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reminds of that ruptured Chinaman, Won Hung Lo
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Snowden flees to SCO, Napolitano flees Minilove for Minitrue.
He runs, she quits, coincidence?
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The program was started under Bush, who I voted for in 2004 (McCain in 2008), in 2005.

I guess it all depends on what you consider "evidence." Occam's razor has nothing to do with this. "I'm going to get a job at Booz Allen, steal NSA data as soon as possible, then fly to China... I mean Hong Kong." Then he flew to Russia, and was supposedly being offered asylum by Equador and Venezuela - according to statements by their own governments.

I suppose this was all just a series of events that occurs to Sam Adams 2013. You can think whatever you like, Kinderanuachinaughterrrer, although its hard to see why you choose to be such a gullible putz.
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your average reader wrote: "Snowden's exact status - whether dupe, agent, or officer of the MSS or SVR - is besides the point. "

Let me be blunt. If you really wanted to sound like an 'average reader' -- instead of an Obaminoid plant -- you would also have included the other possibility, that Snowden is exactly what he says he is: a loyal American who is shocked that his Government is unconstitutionally spying on ordinary US citizens. That possibility certainly fits Occam's Razor.

It is no surprise that governments spy on each other. It is a great surprise to get confirmation that the US government spies so thoroughly on its own citizens -- the people to whom that Government notionally reports.

As to Snowden having access to things he should not have been able to see -- Occam's Razor again suggests that there are (hopefully!) other Americans in the NSA who are just as disgusted as he was about the Administration's betrayal of the Constitution. They shared things with Snowden, but were not prepared to take the risk that he did in coming out.

Until we see convincing evidence to the contrary, Snowden is a whistleblower, not a spy. Anyone who says anything different is either not thinking, or is a mouthpiece for an out-of-control Obama Administration. Our loyalty is to the Constitution, not to the fallible (or corrupt) individual who happens to live in the taxpayer-provided White House.
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For one thing if Snowden were a real Russkiy spy who had planned out his escape, he'd already have sipped a cocktail with Anya:

https://twitter.com/ChapmanAnna/status/352480982101798913
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He jumped onto the wrong flight too many times...

His profile is now consistent with at least high minded dope (not dupe)... of which the Democrat voter base is larded to the gills with.

IF a 'direct asset' -- he's been played ALL wrong.

The opfor ought to be gagging at his overt revelations.

He's actually ruining the game for ALL digital spies, e.g. Moscow is reverting to typewriters. (!)

Ultimately, Snowden is certain to trigger a revulsion of cloud based computing -- and probably create a mega-niche of computers that CAN'T hook into the Internet, can't use USB, can't use....



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