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White Nationalist Says His Relationship with SPLC Is 'Symbiotic'

On Wednesday, PJ Media's Tyler O'Neil broke the story about an explosive new lawsuit against the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). While researching the claims in that lawsuit, he spoke with Will Williams, the current chairman of the white nationalist group the National Alliance (NA). Williams argued that the SPLC "needs" organizations like his, so they can profit off of demonizing them.

"It's kind of symbiotic. The SPLC needs us and we kind of need them," Williams told PJ Media on Wednesday. (He later clarified that the National Alliance "does not need SPLC," save perhaps for some publicity.) He noted that the far-Left group consistently reports on his organization's every move in an attempt to destroy its reputation — and boost the SPLC's profile as a "hate group" watchdog.

The SPLC earned its reputation by taking the Ku Klux Klan to court, but its mission has expanded in recent decades. The organization claims to monitor the "radical Right," along with racist groups. To its credit, the SPLC has included liberal anti-Semitic groups like Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam on its "hate group" list, but it also attacks mainstream conservative and Christian groups on that list, ranking them along with the KKK.

As for the National Alliance, Williams' group traffics in conspiracy theories about secret Jewish control and advocates for white identity politics. NA's late founder, William Pierce, wrote a book that may have inspired Timothy McVeigh in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing (although Pierce denied the connection). When Williams took over in 2014, the organization was in shambles, and it is constantly struggling, thanks in part to the SPLC's attacks.

"People support us, but they're scared spit-less that they'll be on the list, that they'll be doxxed," Williams confided to PJ Media. He told a horror story about a young woman connected with NA whom the SPLC mercilessly attacked.

"They called the parents, asking if they knew who their daughter was having a relationship with. Then they call her employee, and then they call her grandmother," Williams said.

"They want to get rid of us, where we don't have jobs, where we don't have careers, where we don't even have family," he said. "They want to destroy any organizations like ours."

"We call it 'lawfare,' where they file civil suits, where they tie you up, cost you a lot of money, and try to wear you down," Williams explained. "It cost me over $50,000."

He said former employees who had been turned by the SPLC falsely accused him of murder, rape, embezzling, assault, and more. He was convicted of assault in August.

The SPLC has good reasons to attack Williams and the NA. In defending his ideas to PJ Media, the chairman favorably quoted Louis Farrakhan.