Sandmonkey from Cairo — Exclusive PJM Audio Interview

Mahmoud Salem -- aka Sandmonkey -- is the well-known and highly-respected Egyptian blogger who was one of the original democracy demonstrators in Tahrir Square back when people, including me, wanted to believe in the "Arab Spring." How naive we were.

I was able to catch up with Mahmoud this evening via Skype to his cell phone in a Cairo suburb for this audio interview. Not surprisingly, the Sandmonkey does not sound optimistic, but, as you will hear, he has not lost his sense of humor, even while calling for heads to roll among "Arabists" at certain Washington think tanks.


(13 minutes long; 12MB file size. Want to download instead of streaming? Right click here to download this podcast to your hard drive. Or right click here to download the 6 MB lo-fi edition. For those whose browsers are incompatible with our streaming audio player, a YouTube version of my interview will be online later this evening. Watch this space for a link.)

Update: Audio-only YouTube clip of interview now online: