Anarcho-Left Meltdown as Radical Infighting Turns Violent
The publication of the mini-manifesto set off a revelatory (and occasionally hilarious) barrage of comments from members of the multifarious West Coast anarchist factions, exposing some of the ideological and practical rifts and conflicts that are literally tearing the scene apart. Here’s a sampling:
Lierre Keith pied with hot pepper not cream
The pies used to attack Lierre Keith were heavily laced with hot pepper and effectively she was pepper sprayed in the eyes, etc. This post claims PM Press & Bound Together have “crammed” Lierre “down our throats” — which I think goes a long way toward showing the bizarre and warped mind set of the middle-class toxic fetuses responsible for this attack. This apparently was carried out by a group of young people of privilege who have never had to deal with much hardship of any kind, and who have had to opportunity to sit around and dream up theories about the earth and universe that they desperately can’t abide any challenge to, from any quarter, no matter how well meaning. They remind me of some super politically correct counter-culture friends I used to have back in the 60′s. I could never measure up their ideas of what was “right” and they were fairly brutal to those who could not measure up. Every one of them crashed and burnt in some bizarre way.
Loved this
She was pied, get over it. Big deal, even IF it was a spicy pie. Somebody call the waaaambulance for this loser. This action was both hilarious & totally appropriate. Anarchist resources should not be for posers just promoting the status quo. Her very presence there was very inappropriate.
fundamentalist idiots
This is pretty much what I expect from fascist vegan fundamentalist assholes. Heaven forbid that someone disagree with you and point out errors in the half-assed emotionality that you mistake for thinking! May your teeth all rot out (most vegans’ teeth do) and you suffer from the myriad deficiency related diseases for your sins of stupidity. Meanwhile, leave the rest of us alone to pursue our health and happiness!
She called the cops
No one has mentioned yet that the first thing she said after being pied was “Call the cops.” Sure enough, twenty minutes or so after she had cleaned off, many people saw her surrounded by a small group of supporters filing a police report, right in front of the bookfair.
to anyone who justifies this . . .
She was violently assaulted . . . of course she called the fucking cops.
You people (whoever did it, whoever posted the original message above, and whoever justifies or celebrates this attack on Lierre) are pathetic, cowardly, sadistic assholes.
Perhaps filing a police report wasn’t the best response. But how every so-called “anarchist” present stood by, idly, while 3 young men attacked a women without giving them a boot party is beyond me. You people aren’t anarchists, you’re Stalinists with a black flag.
Sorry, “anarchists”, you’re wrong.
To those who pied Lierre Keith: Your “self-congratulatory” note of ASSAULTING an ALLY was… fucked up, and flat-out wrong. Sorry, but you lose this argument. If you were part of my community, I’d vote you leave (banished) for highly abusive behavior.
Let me remind you, this was THREE (young) MEN assaulting a 45 YEAR OLD WOMAN! This is MISOGYNY and disgusting behavior. I am very anti-police, but anyone who demonizes someone for calling the police for a MAN ON WOMAN attack, seriously has their priorities fucked up, and is without a doubt anti-woman. Let’s not let the police oppress, but goddamn it, if they can be utilized to SOMETHING/ANYTHING useful (like preventing very REAL, very TRAUMATIZING abuse), then so be it.
Stop being so immature. We’re supposed to be allies (and diet, like others have said, is not revolutionary – actually fighting power is, not shooting yourself in the foot), but now I have less faith than ever in the people involved in the “movement”.
What? Nobody intervened? Nobody grabbed the perps? A room full of so called anarchists lets a woman be assulted by 3 men and nobody stands up to it? I’m disgusted. Lierre’s book is well reasoned, well researched and balanced and it’s a call for a compassionate way of living. To the Anarchist’s who did this it’s called dialogue you had an opportunity at a public event to question, cross examine Keith’s book and you took the lowest possible road exposing your own pathology.
To the perps: This is no movement… you are members of a lifestyle cult. Oh, how I wish I could join your elitist, pain free, cruelty-free club. Do you sense the irony in all of this?! You attacked a defenseless 45-year-old woman at the very moment she was speaking out AGAINST factory farming. Were you listening? Did you even read Lierre’s book?
Thank goodness these brave guys had the courage to assault this woman. More so, thank goodness they had the good sense and honesty to do so anonymously.
If we keep letting her discuss her issues openly, allowing her arguments to stand for themselves, then people might actually change their minds.
We can’t have that.
No! It’s time to mobilize, to silence dissenting voices, and to humiliate people who, through years of personal suffering, are motivated to share their personal revelations with others.
Thank goodness there were three of these men. Strength in numbers is always essential when you attack women with degenerative spine diseases.
This behavior is insane, and not surprising. I don’t understand why people are all like, “don’t call the cops”. What other accountability is there? Are there anarchists who will hunt down these three assholes and beat the fuck out of them? I didn’t think so. As much as I wish I could beat the fuck out of people who harass women (and men) like this, I’d end up going to jail when they called the cops on me. That’s sort of the joke of anyone saying “don’t call the cops”. It comes from a privileged position of not being the one who got fucked with. Let’s fuck with you and see what choices you have. It’s easier to bitch at someone for calling the cops then it is to come up with a different choice that brings balance and justice. Not that cops do that, but it’s the only choice we have cultural support for.
Interestingly, the pie-ing incident is not the only evidence of a Bay Area anarchist meltdown. Elsewhere on IndyBay (http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/02/26/18638853.php), for example, is this listing for a Bookfair afterparty which reveals that half of the anarchists have banned the other half from their clubhouse:
“Banned in Berkeley” A Bookfair Afterparty
For the ever growing list of individuals who have been ostracized by the Insane Banning Posse at Berkeley’s Long Haul Infoshop, there will be an alternative Anarchist Bookfair afterparty in Berkeley at Kip’s
…. There’s no reason why sane, rational radicals in the east bay cannot get together after the annual anarchist bookfair for a chat and a brew.
And there’s more. Though most of the Bay Area anarchist groups have an extreme far-left anti-American anti-capitalist tendency, the recent emergence of some far-right “National Anarchists” — as I captured on film at an anti-Israel event in San Francisco last year — has caused yet another massive conflagration of anarchist infighting, as the youngsters try to reconcile the irreconcilable conflict between the “total freedom” of political anarchy and the need to violently suppress all dissenting viewpoints.
And so it goes. Over the last 100 years, the various manifestations of radicalism have repeatedly self-imploded once confronted with the non-viability of their beliefs. It’s almost pathetic to watch these incredibly ignorant political buffoons destroy themselves. Let’s hope the rot spreads to other areas of the radical scene, so we can all sit back and enjoy the show.






bwahahahahahahahaha!
I’m gonna need more popcorn.
Ha. It took a while for me to figure this out, but these self-called “anarchists” simply want to be the tyrants who tell others what to do and how to live their lives.
So if someone who “wants an end to all mass-production of food” doesn’t deserve a pie in the face, then who does? But three of them, and served with pepper, was over the top. If she was a real anarchist, she would be prepared to defend herself and packing. That would have about taken care of the problem. By the way, were the pies mass produced?
If God didn’t want us to eat them, he wouldn’t have made them taste so good…
Just have to love the tolerance of the left. Why is any anarchist taking sides? Isn’t anarchy the complete loss of order and control, so anything goes.
(BTW right wing vegetarian, trying to clear my arteries a la the Dr. Dean Ornish program so I can go back to dining on the flesh of God’s critters for another 40 yrs)
#4 wGraves:
So, you think she deserves to be pied because she’s too radical, yet the anarchists think she deserves to be pied because she’s not radical enough?
Splendid.
How about this: Neither she, nor anybody, deserves to be pied.
Throwing pies in people’s faces stopped being funny about 50 years ago. The Yippies took the old Three Stooges / Soupy Sales gag and turned it political. At that moment, all humor drained out of the act.
Ever been pied? I have. It’s not funny — in the slightest. During the assault, you don’t know what’s happening, and for all you know, you’re about to get killed. You don’t know if it’s a pie or a bottle of acid or a bomb or anthrax or what. For five seconds, it’s absolutely terrifying. Especially in this modern era when crazy people run rampant.
Let’s not lower ourselves to the level of these anarcho-fascist scuzzballs by justifying the attack in any way.
Pepper in your eyes is nothing to laugh about.
lol an anarchist that CALLED THE COPS???
are u friggin kidding me…thought they were anti civilization? HYPOCRITE!
These ‘Anarchists’ aren’t even that. They’re just vandals, period.
@steve4libertyinsc: You expect them to live by their professed principles? That’s not very nuanced of you.
These people read books? And most likely not on kindles, or locally produced unbleached, hand-made paper, either. My guess is made of paper by the planet defiling paper industry. Then trucked into town on diesel, particulate-spewing plannet warmers. What’s a true believer to do. I suggest huddle down and suck you thumb, while the rest of us producers get on with life.
How about we wall-off San Francisco and let them experience “sustainability.”
10. Odysseus: lol i dont expect anything but violence and crazy from them
does that count?
It’s St. Patricks day so I’m on my way out for corned-beef-and-cabbage, carrots and potatoes all washed down by any number of beers (read Guiness.) I expect to be surrounded by convivial people who exhibit intelligence, a sense of humor and a sense of perspecitive. You can bet that none of these qualities (especially the intelligence and the corned beef) are on display at the Anarchists Bookfair.
#6: No one deserves to be pied? Civilization is for the civilized. When you call yourself an anarchist and are opposed to all agriculture, you are declaring yourself an enemy of all human society. If you think of yourself and all other humans as amoral animals, you deserve any and all random acts of violence that come your way.
Heh. You want to see anarchy? Just wait for the Social Security checks and VA benefits to stop…
Too funny! “Ja, it seems you have forgotten our little deal, Lebowski.” Oh, am I confusing the anarchists and the nihilists again?
What Lierre Keith, author of The Vegetarian Myth, went through was a horrible personal attack perpetrated by a militant vegan clique at the Anarchist Bookfair. While there are some serious flaws in the ideologies of both of these “movements”, neither one of them is exclusively both things. In other words, not all vegans are, by a long shot anarchist and not all anarchists are, by a long shot, vegan. That said, there are plenty of people who are both. Making assumptions as to what that means is folly because there is a lot of difference of opinion even within the fairly narrow frameworks that encompass these groups.
The audience WASN’T overwhelmingly supportive of this, as has been said in some of the comments here. What it was was overwhelmingly shocked and unable to respond. The condemnation for this act has been swift and adamant and fairly widespread even within these “communities” and more so at-large. Most of the people in the audience went to hear her speak (surprise!), wanted to ask questions AND was very disappointed and disgusted by what happened.
To clarify: Lierre Keith was attacked because she has some very powerful things to say. Things about agriculture, diet, mass food-production, ecocide and what we can do about it. It’s not light-reading but it’s necessary reading. You might not agree with everything. That’s fine, we can’t all be the same, right? The importance of this work is in the debate it engenders, the solutions it offers and the hope it brings. And it does this in a way that is beautifully written and very accessible. That is what the vegan fascists are trying to silence. Because they function as a freedom-hating cult that has lost a member, and they will do anything to stop her from speaking her truth. The vegans take Lierre Keith personally. They think it’s all about them when in fact it’s all about sustainability and saving the planet. But don’t take my word for it. Get a hold of this amazing book, that has already changed so many lives, and see for yourself..
Which tastes better, vegans or vegetarians?
I think radical black blok pie throwing terrorists should be shot in self defense or for whatever other reason one could come up with …
3 guys attacking a woman. With masks. These aren’t protesters, they are cowards afraid to stand up for their beliefs but determined to force their own beliefs on others.
Her ideas are pretty much equally loony. If she wants machine farming ending she should have the honesty to tell us which 2 or 3 billion she wants to die of starvation. Also be honest enough to tell the rest that they need to live in poverty and the ever present chance of hunger and actual famine.
Both sides of this thing are either unable to think to the end of their arguments or they are savages wishing death on a 1/2 to 2/3 of the worlds men,women and children.
Liberal on liberal action. Sounds very entertaining. I think both groups deserve each other, and I don’t believe we should use our white-male-middle-class privilege to stop this. And the police should also stay away – I believe they don’t want to “act stupidly”. I am sure that the ultra-ultra-ultra left, and the ultra-ultra-left are smart, educated and tolerant enough to peacefully resolve their disagreements. And if involves throwing pies – then so be it. Who am I to tell them how to behave?
Of course, if they try to throw pie at me – then all bets are off – I will throw a chair at them. And throwing a chair would only be an opening salvo.
What’s with “veg*n”? Is it too sacred a word to spell? If spelled completely, will a vegan call for a pie fatwa on you? Can vegans be depicted in drawings or other man made images? Can vegans shop in regular supermarkets amongst the food infidels? Can a vegan cashier place meat in a bag? Do vegans need two sets of dishes, one for normal people and one for themselves? Can a vegan pass by a shelf full of Slim Jims and beef jerky without weeping openly?
When is the sequel? I got my popcorn all buttered up with pig fat and cows milk.
Better than celebrity boxing!
The only thing that could have made this more enjoyable is if everybody in the room got pied and temporarily blinded. For once, all involved would had a moment of clarity called pain.
And pain is the only thing radicals understand.
so, after they abolish agribusiness and factory farming, what will they eat? food production should fall off a cliff, and people will still want to eat. It will then be everyone for themselves. That gives the advantage to those who carry and know how to USE guns – generally not the anarchist, who commits violent destruction by stealth and under cover of darkness using accelerants and a match. (becasue they *are* cowards)
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23. Dave M. (now in S. Korea):
I like the “pie fatwa”! What I wonder is how long it will take the far left wing to some how blame the whole episode on Bush?
What a bunch of freakin’ losers. The eunuchs watching the show look too oblivious to react to anything in any way. These are the detritus of collapsing society; people who are too lame to survive what ever comes down the pike. Screw ‘em all.
Love the Benny Hill theme (“Yakety Sax”) accompaniment on the video, as this is a classic moment of political-bizarro slapstick. And not to go all Zapruderesque on the PJM community, but when you watch the three masked morons lope out of the shadows and pie Ms. Kieth, at 0:07 you’ll also see what looks like a *fourth* object being flung at her from the audience.
One common theme in the comments both here and on the SFGate story: these supposedly tough anarchists are a bunch of freakin’ cowards. Not only did three of them hide behind masks and then assault a middle-aged woman with the comestible equivalent of pepper spray, but *not a single man in the audience* bothered to chase any of the perps and administer a well-deserved beatdown. In the million-to-one chance that *The Revolution* they fervently desire ever came to society, these creeps would be hiding under their beds and whining. Anarchists have come a long way in the last hundred years: from the hard men of the IWW, to the passive PoMo poodles of Bay Area leftist wimpery.
Anyone who thinks three men assaulting a woman with degenerative spinal disease is amusing – for any reason – needs to take a few steps back and think about it.
She may be an idiot. That doesn’t make an assault like that amusing. Unless, of course, you’re a sniveling voyeuristic sadist.
security at an anarchist convention? who organized it? who brought the whole thing to order? did they hold a vote? did they take minutes of this meeting? maybe the pie in the face was how they jumped her out of the gang. whats next, mimes yelling at each other. this is so funny
Yeah, anarchy is all fun and games….till some one gets hurt.
13. steve4libertyinsc: Yeah, that’ll do, I think.
“She may be an idiot. That doesn’t make an assault like that amusing.”
No, what makes it amusing is the fact that little miss militant action was /perfectly okay/ with that sort of thing (and worse) being done to other people in the name of advancing her own agenda. Now she gets a taste of it herself and suddenly she’s crying about how very, very wrong it is. Hypocrisy like that deserves jeering, loudly and often.
Oh, and if she wants to play poor pitiful crippled damsel, she might want to try not filling her social circle entirely with cowardly little anti-chivalric twerps.
Hopefully, the girly-men who did this will suffer their self-induced nutritional disorder called orthrexia. Creepy, very creepy.
Meanwhile, on this very website, you have the creme de la creme ogling photographs of Rachel Corrie, just having been killed by a bulldozer. Tell me, Zombie, does that say something about you and your politics? Or do you just direct that sort of logic at things that bother you?
Hey Oscar get back in the trash can and take your leftist crap with you.
Anyone who thinks this is in any way funny, whether amongst anarchists or regulars of Pajamas Media, is a cretinous asshole.
Love your work Zombie.
This poor girl being pied deserves to have at least one large tree full of naked protesters-
Do stay out of Peach trees though.
My half naked friends and I climbed out on a Southern Jezebel limb to eat our sandwiches and it brought us down around ourselves.
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Anyway…
I was so overcome by your story of this young girls suffering,
I had a moment of silence before I sat down to eat my Kentucky Fried Chicken Livers smothered in fried green onions with a large Coke chaser.
Great comments!! This anarchist dust-up sounds like a bunch of little kids fighting in the sandbox.They ALL need a good thrashing and a dose of reality.I haven’t seen too many males on the left side of the political spectrum that ever scared me very much.The further left you go, the wimpier they become.
Tex Taylor = cretinous a-hole
Funny as hell! My biggest disappointment is the sissified #3 wimp missed her head and hit her in the back; a terrible waste of good pie.
Sorry. When a punk get his or her comeuppance, even if received from even more egregious punks, justice has been served. Maybe this “cretinous” dunce might wake up and realize that the pie incident is of her own making. The bully has now been bullied, and that is a good thing.
18. exveg:
You have written a very thoughtful piece, and I don’t mean to attack you personally, but I’ve never before run across the word “ecocide.” Of course, I don’t hang out with people who might share your same views.
Still, I was struck by the use of the term, and how Mother Earthers (rhymes with “birthers” – sorry, I couldn’t resist) must look at things. Ecocide? Please? Have you ever heard of Chicken Little?
18. exveg:
Oops! After I said that I don’t mean to attack you personally, I guess I might have when I inferred that you, personally, are a Chicken Little. Sorry.
To bad she wasn’t armed with at least a Taser, these people need a wake up call.
Leftists always end up doing one another in once they have the power to do it. There is no room for spoken independent thought and experience. Mao, Stalin, Castro…all killed off a lot of their unhappy supporters once they harnessed utopia. The “smart people” were killed by Mao; identified by the glasses on their faces. Utopia is political correctness with the power of the State to impoverish, imprison and murder those who speak and think incorrectly. This was just a taste of what Lefists would do to all of us if they ever harnessed the total power of the State.
This ranks with the two green groups who are fighting because some of them want windmills and the other group doesn’t. It’s because some of their favorite birds are too dumb to stay away from spinning blades.
Same old, same old. “More radical than thou” has long been part of the Berserkeley toolbox. I can recall similar incidents from 4 decades ago.
The anarchist speaker’s first reaction to an attack was to call the cops.
That says pretty much everything that needs to be said about anarchy as a practical system.
I’d really like to see these clowns try to do that to a speaker at a TEA Party rally.
I would give them props for courage for THAT – posthumously of course – but I’d say they were brave (no credit for intelligence or sanity though).
Hitting a smaller, older woman – hitting her from from behind, and slapping her head hard with cayenne-laced pies is the act of a bunch of gutless cowards and the fact that no body tried to bring these scum down was disgusting.
Mike says:
3 guys attacking a woman. With masks. These aren’t protesters, they are cowards afraid to stand up for their beliefs but determined to force their own beliefs on others.
good points Mike but what struck me, was the speed with which they were running. It was like they were pieing a lion for crying out loud. What a bunch or punks. the chili does but it on an even more vicious level
and like someone else pointed out the dame was more than happy for violence against the mainstream because of her ubermoral clarity
vicious punk bastards though….
Mr. Zombie;
It is amazing that this kind of entertainment is available…for free…on the streets of San Francisco.
BTW, where the Scrotal Inflation Fellows at this year’s book fair?
San Francisco will forever be linked in my mind with the image of two middle-aged men buck naked, and having finger painted dollar signs all over each other’s bodies, then publicly inflating their scrots with saline solution.
This image of yours also led me to two conclusions:
1) Everyone should have a hobby
and
2) Everyone needs to have a friend,(and when someone is willing to finger-paint yoyur middle aged carcass, that’s a friend!).
These two conclusions led me to a final summation:
God. Help. Us!
Like starving wolverines in a canvas sack, they tear at each other until there’s nothing left but shredded fur.
That’s essentially what’s happening on the West Coast anarchist scene, as far-far-far-far-left radicals have taken to assaulting the merely far-far-far-left radicals for being insufficiently revolutionary, opening up a huge rift in a political milieu that is now hemorrhaging adherents as we speak.
Infighting has been a defining feature of the radical left since…1864? I wouldn’t guess that this has incident has far-reaching implications for the far left’s future.
(I should mention that, although I myself am a vegetarian, I fully understand that my diet is simply my personal preference; and I’m perfectly OK with other people eating meat or whatever else they want to eat. For me, politics and lunch do not mix. Not all meat-avoiders are demented revolutionaries.)
Inane. If you’re a vegetarian for ethical reasons or environmental, then that’s a political choice, whether or not you choose to ruin dinner parties by telling people meat is murder. If you’re a vegetarian for health reasons they you have nothing in common with these people so why are you even bringing it up?
How very Hobbesian. Yes, that’s anarchy alright.
What this event tells me is that there isn’t much unanimity holding the far left together. They are looking for reasons, not just to disagree, but to assault each other. This is sad.
At the end of the day, I don’t care whether someone is from the Far Left, the Far Right, or somewhere in between. I care about whether they want our country to thrive. As long as we agree on that much, I will be happy to see our politicians break bread together and discuss where common ground exists.
The sick part of this is that these people do not even agree that the latter is a reasonable course of action. I would treat these assailants no better than I’d treat some secessionist ultra right wing cult in the wilderness. If we can’t at least agree that we are trying to arrive at a goal that makes our country better, then what is there to discuss with these idiots?
Something even more disturbing from the cesspool that is Anarchist book fairs and “collectives”: Support for the pedophile group NAMBLA.
Bound Together Books, an SF Anarchist book collective which sponsored the fair and Lierre Kieth’s speech, also apparently sells the NAMBLA bulletin amongst other pro-pedophile material.
From one of the comments at the story on Indybay:
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/03/14/18640886.php#18640990
“You might also want to boycott Bound Together for the fact that they are Nambla (National Man/Boy Love Association) sympathizers who actively promote pedophiles, sexual assault and abuse through the sale of the Nambla bulletin in the store.”
The claim is also repeated at an anarchist website in an unrelated article on anarcho-pedophiles (yes, they openly exist within the anarchist movement apparently):
http://libcom.org/library/paedophilia-and-american-anarchism-the-other-side-of-hakim-bey
“Anarchist bookstores in the US almost always carry Hakim Bey titles, but not the ones which can be understood only as pedophile material. One exception is Bound Together Books (San Francisco), which carries the Prison Diaries of NAMBLA Members and other NAMBLA literature. One member of the collective was quoted as saying that “to force the issue would destroy the bookstore.””
Perhaps a topic for a zombie photo essay?
Their address & website:
Bound Together Bookstore
1369 Haight Street
San Francisco, CA 94117
415 431-8355
http://boundtogetherbooks.wordpress.com/
The ur-luddites who advocate the abolition of modern agriculture are, in the most literal sense of the term, hostis humani generis. Would that they could be treated as such. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined didn’t kill as many as Lierre Keith’s program would if implemented globally.
So while I would be happy to read of the perpetrators being caught and punished to the fullest extent of the law, I can’t muster any sympathy for the victim.
I haven’t read Ms Keith’s book but I do actively hold the position that mass agriculture will destroy the planet this will cause mass death and starvation for people living in the most vulnerable parts of the world. Anyone who has in mind an immediate end to modern agriculture is an idiot but I support a process of a gradual pulling away so that human populations can shrink naturally, not catastrophically and we can regain a balance between humanity and our natural world that had existed for millenia prior to agriculture. It is an urgent issue in the sense that it would be a process that would take generations and must be begun immediatly if we are to pull ourselves from the brink.
Additionally, although I do not align myself with any bloc of anarchists, I do believe that it is the most humane form of organization. Despite the colloquial misinterpretation that it means “chaos,” the anarchist political philiosphy advocates a coersion-free form of organization that is non-hierarchical and egalitarian.
That said, these masked idiots have completely misunderstood the philosphy they are supposedly advocating. This makes it harder for open-minded deeply caring and engaged people to even consider anarchism as a real political alternative to coersive state-based structures. It makes me embarassed to even call myself an anarchist. And strenghtens my resolve to stay the hell away from all these crazy people.
Aga
@Nate: “Do you know what a Luddite is? A person who hates newfangled contraptions. Ned Ludd was a textile worker in England at around the start of the 19th century who busted up a lot of new contraptions – mechanical looms that were going to put him out of work, that were going to make it impossible for him with his particular skills to feed, clothe, and shelter his family. In 1813 the British government executed by hanging 17 men for “machine breaking,” as it was called, a capital crime.” from Man Without a Country by Kurt Vonnegut.
Initial reaction: Only in America –> only in California –> only in San Francisco. Also enjoyed a hearty guffaw and gloat at the lib-on-lib antics. And they accuse us conservatives of being juvenile!
However, I agree with other posters who point out that modern agriculture is not conducted properly. So many pesticides in runoff water, and/or erosion and other potential hazards, are not healthy.
Having said that, there IS a healthy way to farm, and it’s the way farmers have been farming for hundreds of years, namely alternating fields to allow fallow rejuvenation; use of insects and naturally occurring herbaceous pest control to at least supplement, if not replace, the vast quantities of synthetically produced pesticides currently in use; and terracing (yes, even on so-called “flat” surfaces — all water runs down), underpinned by rock and gravel beds to help filter pollutants out of the water table. These are not simply quaint traditions; they’re possible on as large a scale as any of today’s agri-complexes.
Still, though, I remain torn between wanting to laugh my head off (sorry, but pies in the face, like banana peels on the floor, are eternally funny) and a feeling that, yet again, liberal idiocy has managed to overshadow a potentially relevant issue.
Fact: vegans have a 75% higher chance of giving birth to a child that is mentally disabled
Just have to love the tolerance of the left. Why is any anarchist taking sides? Isn’t anarchy the complete loss of order and control, so anything goes.
Hey! They are anarchists aren’t they? If they were real anarchists, and not pussies, they would have used guns and bombs. I would hope no one paid any money for the “books” on offer either.