Sandy’s Surge Was NOT Unexpectedly High
(Incidentally, if you’re wondering about even earlier predictions, the predicted range as of Saturday afternoon was a 4-8′ surge. That’s still enough to seriously flood the city (“only” ~5′ to ~5.5′ at high tide was needed to do that) — which is why Bloomberg should have ordered the evacuation of Zones A and B on Saturday — but it’s not quite as high as the 9′ surge that ultimately occurred. Going back a little further, to the Saturday wee hours when I composed my earlier-quoted blog post, the official NWS forecast was for a surge “2 TO 3 FT ABOVE ASTRONOMICAL TIDES…WITH POSSIBLE HIGHER DEPARTURES DEPENDENT UPON THE TRACK OF SANDY.” My citation of 6 to 10 feet in my “NYC In Peril” post was based on computer model estimates of those “possible higher departures” in the event of a worst-case track, as conveyed to me by Eric Holthaus of the Wall Street Journal.)
Here, by the way, is a tweet I posted Saturday night, which also made clear that the forecast was for 6 to 11 feet plus high tide on top of that:
@racheldulitz Wait till WHEN, Rachel? Till less than 24 hours before the storm starts? 6-10 ft surge + high tide + big waves WILL flood A&B.
— Brendan Loy (@brendanloy) October 28, 2012
And yet Con Edison says “nobody predicted” a 9-foot surge plus high tide. And the Associated Press repeats that lie without comment or correction.
What’s really strange is, I don’t think ConEd has done anything wrong with respect to its handling of the storm. Of course Sandy was going to produce widespread power outages, and of course it’s going to take a while to get the power back on. As of now, there’s really nothing to criticize the power companies over, so far as I’m aware. And yet ConEd is making complete factual misstatements in its CYA statements. I have no idea why they feel the need to do that — but this false “unexpected” meme must not be allowed to take hold.
Let me repeat what I said repeatedly before the storm hit, and have been emphasizing ever since:
Reminder: if any politician says this was “unexpected,” “didn’t see it coming,” THEY ARE LYING. Treat such statements as resignation letters
— Brendan Loy (@brendanloy) October 30, 2012
Sandy was an extraordinarily well-forecasted storm (and thank goodness for that), and what it did is precisely what had been forecast for many days in advance by the computer models and the National Weather Serice. There was absolutely no reason for anyone to be surprised, and you should not tolerate CYA excuses — from anyone — that claim otherwise. Again, I encourage voters and citizens to treat all such “caught us off guard” statements as, effectively, letters of resignation by the officials making those statements, because anyone making such a statement is — necessarily — either lying to the public about a matter of critical importance, or was so woefully unprepared and uninformed about the nature of Sandy’s threat that they do not deserve the public trust.
As for you journalists: Do not repeat this lie. Do not allow officials to get away with it. Correct it every time it is stated. Shame those who state it. This cannot be allowed to continue. It is an affront to the notion of public accountability and transparency, an insult to the meteorologists who predicted this storm so well, and above all, a fraud on the American public, to pretend that Sandy’s wrath was “unexpected.”
You are the Fourth Estate. Your job is to inform your readers and viewers about the facts. Do your damn job.
P.S. Please note, this is not about me. I’m not beating my chest or trumpeting how right I was. What I wrote was obvious and well-known; I was relaying information from forecasters, not making “predictions” of my own. It was widely predicted that a surge like this could happen, and indeed, was expected to happen if Sandy stayed on track. So I’m not bragging about how I got it “right.” I’m merely using my statements as an example of how widely well-understood it was — among those paying attention to the computer models and the official NWS predictions, anyway — that a 6-11′ surge on top of the tides was potentially in the offing.






I take it you are attempting to contact whoever’s in charge of corrections at the AP, as well as blogging and tweeting?
Already e-mailed them, yes. Also tweeted at the three authors of the article.
BTW – Excellent job these past few days, Mr. Loy. No better source of info was to be had in the days leading up to Monday.
Did you have to take a sick day on Monday, or do you have a very understanding employer?
Everything you say here is true. Your warnings were available way before the storm, but knowing the threat in advance didn’t require reading a (possibly obscure) weather blog, since you were re-presenting information coming out of NWS. That of course should be the first source for officials charged with planning a response to an emergency.
I will give Con Ed some slack here — all of their employees above the fractionally-beyond-moron level are out busting their butts to get the power back on, and so only the stupidest guy on staff was left behind to jawbone with the press.
I appreciate your understanding of weather issues this stupid layperson doesn’t quite get (until they’re explained as you have done here). I tried to look up the same information on the new Nor’easter heading toward NY/NJ, but I don’t see the same type of information (yet?) I also tried to find out the storm surge level from Sandy for my area, thinking I could compare it to the forecasted surges (as I found at http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/point-pleasant-beach-nj/08742/weather-warnings/2195391). I previously tried to compare the forecasted surges for Sandy to Irene’s surges nearby, and what I assured my family would be at most “up to the dock” ended up being chest-deep in our street, up to the top step of the porch, and back door, with a good foot of flooding in the garage, so clearly I am not clever at this. Can you just tell me if the new Nor’easter (due 11/7-8) is likely to flood us the same way Sandy did, or close, or worse? Or please point me to where they have records of surges and forecasted surges for coastal NJ? Thank you!
Where’s my NANNY!!!! WHAAAAAAA!!!!
Well he didn’t catch any balls between his legs or behind his back, but he also didn’t throw any away to 1st or over the head of the 3rd baseman with a players on 1st/3rd like Price,Shields…
Maybe they give the award for not making (errors) mistakes, you think?
Hellboy keeps piling up the awards…payday is coming…….. Boras is the man to get it
Hey Michael I just want to tell everyone out there im on Long island and its getting very scary out there The lines for gas are hours long and reports of looting are Rampant and all I hear at night is police and fire dept sirens. I’m one the lucky few who have power but I Know plenty of people who have know power heat or even potable water. I have my brother inlaw and sister inlaw staying with me now cause there was a fire at sewage treatment plant in Nassau county Long island and there told not to flush or drink the water due to possible sewagae backup. Please pray for us that we don’t get another noreaster and this doesn’t turn into ground zero and a preview of the coming days for the rest of the country God bless.
Wow, sending out prayers to the east coast.
15 of the 20 guys in Dan’s original post were pitchers, or primarily so. Of those 15, for whatever it’s worth, 9 were listed by Bill James in his Historical Abstract of 2001 as among his personal top 100 pitchers of all time:
Ferrell was ranked at #40 (between Blyleven and McGinnity)
Cooper at #55
Walters at #69
Shocker at #71
Mullane at #82
Carruthers at #88
Uhle at #91
Adams at #93
Bond at #97
I feel bad for all the people that lost everything