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		<title>By: Alsadius</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101983</link>
		<dc:creator>Alsadius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to think of the last time I actually turned on a television to watch something being broadcast, and I&#039;m genuinely coming up blank. I&#039;ve been in rooms with TVs on, sometimes sat down to watch parts of shows, but the last time I actually sought out TV...at a guess, the 2008 Super Bowl? And even that was more an excuse to load up on my buddy&#039;s home-made nachos. I still watch plenty of TV shows, but the networks themselves have nothing to do with it - I hear a show is good, snag it off BitTorrent, then buy it on DVD if I like it. 

As for the actual point of the article though, the parallels seem fairly obvious. They got big, cocky, and risk-averse, didn&#039;t change with the times, and forgot why they ever got to the top in the first place. Their corporate culture stinks, and anyone with an idea worth having works for the upstart competitors instead of beating their heads against that particular wall. The real question you should be asking is, how many hundreds of other companies fall into the same bin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to think of the last time I actually turned on a television to watch something being broadcast, and I&#8217;m genuinely coming up blank. I&#8217;ve been in rooms with TVs on, sometimes sat down to watch parts of shows, but the last time I actually sought out TV&#8230;at a guess, the 2008 Super Bowl? And even that was more an excuse to load up on my buddy&#8217;s home-made nachos. I still watch plenty of TV shows, but the networks themselves have nothing to do with it &#8211; I hear a show is good, snag it off BitTorrent, then buy it on DVD if I like it. </p>
<p>As for the actual point of the article though, the parallels seem fairly obvious. They got big, cocky, and risk-averse, didn&#8217;t change with the times, and forgot why they ever got to the top in the first place. Their corporate culture stinks, and anyone with an idea worth having works for the upstart competitors instead of beating their heads against that particular wall. The real question you should be asking is, how many hundreds of other companies fall into the same bin?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101950</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did NBC fall so far and so fast?  Jeffery Imhelt!!</description>
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		<title>By: mary sabel</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101948</link>
		<dc:creator>mary sabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Leno has never been funny IMHO.  He was sarcastic and snobbish, but never funny.  He made jokes at the expense of others, but never in a kind or offbeat way, just nasty.  Now, prime time viewers know that he just doesn&#039;t have IT, whatever that may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Leno has never been funny IMHO.  He was sarcastic and snobbish, but never funny.  He made jokes at the expense of others, but never in a kind or offbeat way, just nasty.  Now, prime time viewers know that he just doesn&#8217;t have IT, whatever that may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Oakley</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101946</link>
		<dc:creator>Oakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leno&#039;s time slot is absurd.  He was great late night, but 9:00 MST?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leno&#8217;s time slot is absurd.  He was great late night, but 9:00 MST?</p>
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		<title>By: PR</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101945</link>
		<dc:creator>PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Leno still explain all of his jokes, 2 or 3 times? As a rule, real comedians do not ever do that, even once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Leno still explain all of his jokes, 2 or 3 times? As a rule, real comedians do not ever do that, even once.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl D.</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101940</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do yourself a favor... pick up seasons 1-5 of ABC&#039;s &quot;LOST&quot;, get caught up, and enjoy the final season when it starts in January.  It lagged a bit in season 3, but it&#039;s back to top-notch quality now and is headed for a thrilling finish in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do yourself a favor&#8230; pick up seasons 1-5 of ABC&#8217;s &#8220;LOST&#8221;, get caught up, and enjoy the final season when it starts in January.  It lagged a bit in season 3, but it&#8217;s back to top-notch quality now and is headed for a thrilling finish in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: paul_unalaska</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101938</link>
		<dc:creator>paul_unalaska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Leno, the 2nd best comedian who&#039;d read a placard/ teleprompter of other people&#039;s jokes is doing his &#039;own show&#039; now on another channel?  And it&#039;s not doing well?  Wow, I&#039;m in &#039;shock and awe..&#039;.

Jay, get off the teleprompter, hit the comedy circuit again.  Heck, borrow Robin Williams&#039; rainbow suspenders and remember once upon a time: you were actually funny!

I long for the days of Rodney Dangerfield.  The ultimate funny man in his heyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Leno, the 2nd best comedian who&#8217;d read a placard/ teleprompter of other people&#8217;s jokes is doing his &#8216;own show&#8217; now on another channel?  And it&#8217;s not doing well?  Wow, I&#8217;m in &#8216;shock and awe..&#8217;.</p>
<p>Jay, get off the teleprompter, hit the comedy circuit again.  Heck, borrow Robin Williams&#8217; rainbow suspenders and remember once upon a time: you were actually funny!</p>
<p>I long for the days of Rodney Dangerfield.  The ultimate funny man in his heyday.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Leno used to be a Conservative, then he accepted Liberal jokes, now he doesn&#039;t care if you are red or blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Leno used to be a Conservative, then he accepted Liberal jokes, now he doesn&#8217;t care if you are red or blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Alana</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101935</link>
		<dc:creator>Alana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is it with these people who insult whole portions of their audience?  I don&#039;t mean gentle humor (a la Carson), but outright ridicule?

I can&#039;t believe they actually believe that everyone agrees with them.  Or that losing a large portion of their audience is good for them.

I guess they just exist as a propaganda machine for the very young.  I suppose it works.  I imagine that is more important than providing good entertainment everyone can enjoy.  

Seriously, I think the propaganda is the purpose.  I also think it helps propel us into civil war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is it with these people who insult whole portions of their audience?  I don&#8217;t mean gentle humor (a la Carson), but outright ridicule?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe they actually believe that everyone agrees with them.  Or that losing a large portion of their audience is good for them.</p>
<p>I guess they just exist as a propaganda machine for the very young.  I suppose it works.  I imagine that is more important than providing good entertainment everyone can enjoy.  </p>
<p>Seriously, I think the propaganda is the purpose.  I also think it helps propel us into civil war.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Schreiber</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101934</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronnie Schreiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite part of Sons Of Anarchy is that the baddest biker and the baddest biker babe are both played by Jewish actors.

Fun show with good acting. 

Hamlet on Harleys with a nod to the Sopranos.

Actually, there&#039;s some similarity between MCs and the Mob. They are both subcultures with their own rules. They may not be society&#039;s rules, but they are rules nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of Sons Of Anarchy is that the baddest biker and the baddest biker babe are both played by Jewish actors.</p>
<p>Fun show with good acting. </p>
<p>Hamlet on Harleys with a nod to the Sopranos.</p>
<p>Actually, there&#8217;s some similarity between MCs and the Mob. They are both subcultures with their own rules. They may not be society&#8217;s rules, but they are rules nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Uriel</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101931</link>
		<dc:creator>Uriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed something about Leno and his replacement, Conan.  I used to never watch the Tonight show when Leno hosted; basically because the opening monologue was too full of Leftist humor (i.e. Bush-bashing, capitalism-hating, etc).  Now that he has his own show he appears more open not only right-wing guests (he actually dared to have Rush on) but the occasional actual Left-bashing, Obama jokes.
Conversely, I used to love watching Conan&#039;s show.  Firstly, because I liked his weird and self-deprecating humor; and, secondly because political jokes were rare and there was no discernible outright Leftist humor.
I started watching the Tonight Show when Conan took over; but it took less than a week to rack up an uncountable number of Anti-Conservative, Anti-America, Defending-Obama &quot;jokes&quot; in the opening monologue.  A thing unheard of on his own show, when Conan was actually in charge of the content.
I must therefore apologize to Jay Leno.  Yes, I know ... I&#039;m sure he&#039;s been anxiously awaiting MY apology.
Anyway, I apologize for thinking that Jay was a rabid Moonbat, when it was the NBC writers all along.
I must also apologize to Conan for assuming that he had any integrity.  My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed something about Leno and his replacement, Conan.  I used to never watch the Tonight show when Leno hosted; basically because the opening monologue was too full of Leftist humor (i.e. Bush-bashing, capitalism-hating, etc).  Now that he has his own show he appears more open not only right-wing guests (he actually dared to have Rush on) but the occasional actual Left-bashing, Obama jokes.<br />
Conversely, I used to love watching Conan&#8217;s show.  Firstly, because I liked his weird and self-deprecating humor; and, secondly because political jokes were rare and there was no discernible outright Leftist humor.<br />
I started watching the Tonight Show when Conan took over; but it took less than a week to rack up an uncountable number of Anti-Conservative, Anti-America, Defending-Obama &#8220;jokes&#8221; in the opening monologue.  A thing unheard of on his own show, when Conan was actually in charge of the content.<br />
I must therefore apologize to Jay Leno.  Yes, I know &#8230; I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s been anxiously awaiting MY apology.<br />
Anyway, I apologize for thinking that Jay was a rabid Moonbat, when it was the NBC writers all along.<br />
I must also apologize to Conan for assuming that he had any integrity.  My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>74. Gringo:

Ayyy, gringuito

&quot;many of whom said they didn’t bother with TV anymore,&quot;

The woman was talking trash, delusional, how do you know she&#039;s not a soap opera addict like you?

&quot;which in the Southern Cone of Argentina, Uruguay and Chile, and other countries means . . . &quot;

That&#039;s their slang, not anywhere else, keep your smears within your agringados.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>74. Gringo:</p>
<p>Ayyy, gringuito</p>
<p>&#8220;many of whom said they didn’t bother with TV anymore,&#8221;</p>
<p>The woman was talking trash, delusional, how do you know she&#8217;s not a soap opera addict like you?</p>
<p>&#8220;which in the Southern Cone of Argentina, Uruguay and Chile, and other countries means . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s their slang, not anywhere else, keep your smears within your agringados.</p>
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		<title>By: rp</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101925</link>
		<dc:creator>rp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, Leno is a joke. And the only time Obama makes me laugh is every time I look at those megaphones he wears masquerading as ears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, Leno is a joke. And the only time Obama makes me laugh is every time I look at those megaphones he wears masquerading as ears.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101922</link>
		<dc:creator>whiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve blogged on this considerably. NBC promoted it&#039;s head of Cable operations, including USA, to replace Ben Silverman (his name escapes me at the moment). While USA is excellent at getting a broad spectrum of viewers, men/women, young/old, Bravo and other outlets are niches, gay-female ghettos.

On substance, Stephen Green is wrong. NBC&#039;s problem, and GM&#039;s, and Leno&#039;s, are that they are not popular enough. They are niche operations with a broad-based legacy cost structure, unable to live off revenues from niche customers.

Ferrari can handle only a few thousand customers per year -- they charge premium prices. NBC wanted to be Ferrari, not GM of the past, and sought the logical extension of the &quot;Brandon Tartikoff strategy&quot; by using stuff like Hill Street Blues to attract fewer but wealthier yuppies. 

This soon morphed into a politically correct mish-mash of a gay-female ghetto.

WHERE on NBC&#039;s schedule are any shows aimed at men? The two that were SOLIDLY aimed at men last year, Life and Chuck, were either cancelled (Life) with no real effort to promote and work with the show, or relegated to a mere 13 episodes in the Spring (because Sponsor Subway was inundated with Chuck fans mailing in their register receipts demanding the show be saved). 

Meanwhile you have the female-gay oriented &quot;Mercy&quot; which features an Iraq War veteran nurse who cheats on her doofus good guy husband with a hunky doctor. Or &quot;Trauma&quot; etc. No shows appealing to men.

Broadcast TV is in fact a gay-female ghetto. Most of Hollywood is oriented (particularly TV) around the female audience, with various princess fantasies being the basis of Disney-ABC&#039;s empire, and variations of that for ABC (Desperate Housewives, Witches of Eastwick), NBC, CBS, and to a lesser extent Fox (which is the youngest and most male oriented of the nets). CW is of course the home of &quot;Gossip Girl&quot; and &quot;the Vampire Diaries&quot; so that takes care of younger viewers.

In order to succeed the Nets need a broad audience. Men as well as women, old as well as young. The Superbowl with about 100 million viewers or so represents what could have been done with five nets accounting for population growth, akin to the 60 million viewers that the Beverly Hillbillies got in a nation of 200 million people in the late 1960&#039;s. Even with cable erosion, the amount of people actually watching, particularly 18-34 for the five networks is about 12% or so IIRC of the potential 18-34 population.

Link to my article, WSJ sources, comparison with the Census Bureau data is &lt;a href=&quot;http://whiskeys-place.blogspot.com/2009/07/future-of-tv-is-on-internet.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

Let&#039;s review: NBC abandoned Saturday Nights (Pretender, Profiler, etc.) in 2000, ABC in 1999, CBS in 2004. In 1999-2000 the Networks had: &quot;Angel,&quot; &quot;the Pretender,&quot; &quot;Martial Law,&quot; &quot;Walker, Texas Ranger,&quot; &quot;Nash Bridges,&quot; &quot;Harsh Realm,&quot; and &quot;Seven Days.&quot; All male skewing. It would be a miracle if the nets had even ONE male-skewing/oriented show left on their schedule.

The networks in good times, pursuing wealthy yuppie women, with ad money rolling in, had no reason to pursue a broad viewership that would insulate them from downturns. They were like GM focusing on trucks/SUVs. Unable to make anything else profitable. 

Now broadcast TV is perceived as male-friendly as Broadway or a Twilight convention. It would take years of losses to lure back men the way it will take years for GM to lure back broad based consumers for non-truck/SUV vehicles. 

Lesson: in media, pursuing wealthy yuppie customers is very vulnerable to inevitable economic downturns. NBC is in trouble because they have nothing men want to watch, and are in pursuit of the same female audience that CBS, ABC, CW, and Fox pursues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve blogged on this considerably. NBC promoted it&#8217;s head of Cable operations, including USA, to replace Ben Silverman (his name escapes me at the moment). While USA is excellent at getting a broad spectrum of viewers, men/women, young/old, Bravo and other outlets are niches, gay-female ghettos.</p>
<p>On substance, Stephen Green is wrong. NBC&#8217;s problem, and GM&#8217;s, and Leno&#8217;s, are that they are not popular enough. They are niche operations with a broad-based legacy cost structure, unable to live off revenues from niche customers.</p>
<p>Ferrari can handle only a few thousand customers per year &#8212; they charge premium prices. NBC wanted to be Ferrari, not GM of the past, and sought the logical extension of the &#8220;Brandon Tartikoff strategy&#8221; by using stuff like Hill Street Blues to attract fewer but wealthier yuppies. </p>
<p>This soon morphed into a politically correct mish-mash of a gay-female ghetto.</p>
<p>WHERE on NBC&#8217;s schedule are any shows aimed at men? The two that were SOLIDLY aimed at men last year, Life and Chuck, were either cancelled (Life) with no real effort to promote and work with the show, or relegated to a mere 13 episodes in the Spring (because Sponsor Subway was inundated with Chuck fans mailing in their register receipts demanding the show be saved). </p>
<p>Meanwhile you have the female-gay oriented &#8220;Mercy&#8221; which features an Iraq War veteran nurse who cheats on her doofus good guy husband with a hunky doctor. Or &#8220;Trauma&#8221; etc. No shows appealing to men.</p>
<p>Broadcast TV is in fact a gay-female ghetto. Most of Hollywood is oriented (particularly TV) around the female audience, with various princess fantasies being the basis of Disney-ABC&#8217;s empire, and variations of that for ABC (Desperate Housewives, Witches of Eastwick), NBC, CBS, and to a lesser extent Fox (which is the youngest and most male oriented of the nets). CW is of course the home of &#8220;Gossip Girl&#8221; and &#8220;the Vampire Diaries&#8221; so that takes care of younger viewers.</p>
<p>In order to succeed the Nets need a broad audience. Men as well as women, old as well as young. The Superbowl with about 100 million viewers or so represents what could have been done with five nets accounting for population growth, akin to the 60 million viewers that the Beverly Hillbillies got in a nation of 200 million people in the late 1960&#8242;s. Even with cable erosion, the amount of people actually watching, particularly 18-34 for the five networks is about 12% or so IIRC of the potential 18-34 population.</p>
<p>Link to my article, WSJ sources, comparison with the Census Bureau data is <a href="http://whiskeys-place.blogspot.com/2009/07/future-of-tv-is-on-internet.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s review: NBC abandoned Saturday Nights (Pretender, Profiler, etc.) in 2000, ABC in 1999, CBS in 2004. In 1999-2000 the Networks had: &#8220;Angel,&#8221; &#8220;the Pretender,&#8221; &#8220;Martial Law,&#8221; &#8220;Walker, Texas Ranger,&#8221; &#8220;Nash Bridges,&#8221; &#8220;Harsh Realm,&#8221; and &#8220;Seven Days.&#8221; All male skewing. It would be a miracle if the nets had even ONE male-skewing/oriented show left on their schedule.</p>
<p>The networks in good times, pursuing wealthy yuppie women, with ad money rolling in, had no reason to pursue a broad viewership that would insulate them from downturns. They were like GM focusing on trucks/SUVs. Unable to make anything else profitable. </p>
<p>Now broadcast TV is perceived as male-friendly as Broadway or a Twilight convention. It would take years of losses to lure back men the way it will take years for GM to lure back broad based consumers for non-truck/SUV vehicles. </p>
<p>Lesson: in media, pursuing wealthy yuppie customers is very vulnerable to inevitable economic downturns. NBC is in trouble because they have nothing men want to watch, and are in pursuit of the same female audience that CBS, ABC, CW, and Fox pursues.</p>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>66. vivo:
&lt;i&gt;Political? Spin? Go back to your soap operas and foxed news.&lt;/i&gt;

Apparently vivo has not bothered to read the comments on VDH&#039;s recent article on being a cultural dropout, which got around 500 comments, many of whom said they didn&#039;t bother with TV anymore, let alone &quot;soap operas and foxed news.&quot;

Also note that a number of posters here also said that their TV watching had declined considerably. 

But what can one expect from someone with a screen name of vivo, which in the Southern Cone of Argentina, Uruguay and Chile,  and other countries means con man, flim-flam artist, scam artist, fast talker etc.  

vivo is not a very good vivo , as it is so easy to see through his inane comments. He’s more like a wannabe vivo.</description>
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<i>Political? Spin? Go back to your soap operas and foxed news.</i></p>
<p>Apparently vivo has not bothered to read the comments on VDH&#8217;s recent article on being a cultural dropout, which got around 500 comments, many of whom said they didn&#8217;t bother with TV anymore, let alone &#8220;soap operas and foxed news.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also note that a number of posters here also said that their TV watching had declined considerably. </p>
<p>But what can one expect from someone with a screen name of vivo, which in the Southern Cone of Argentina, Uruguay and Chile,  and other countries means con man, flim-flam artist, scam artist, fast talker etc.  </p>
<p>vivo is not a very good vivo , as it is so easy to see through his inane comments. He’s more like a wannabe vivo.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s television programs are so tawdry, so boring, so intellectually impoverished even the tawdry, boring, intellectually impoverished American public is turning them off.  Maybe it&#039;s time to look elsewhere for entertainment to fill our empty lives.  Exciting things to do:  fistfights over politics, picking up a stranger in a bar, drag racing, form your own band, (fill in the blanks)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s television programs are so tawdry, so boring, so intellectually impoverished even the tawdry, boring, intellectually impoverished American public is turning them off.  Maybe it&#8217;s time to look elsewhere for entertainment to fill our empty lives.  Exciting things to do:  fistfights over politics, picking up a stranger in a bar, drag racing, form your own band, (fill in the blanks)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101916</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khiri, yes Empty Nest! I loved that show. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khiri, yes Empty Nest! I loved that show. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sebastian Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped watching Dirty Jobs since Mike Rowe was forced to do green jobs; he still does. The last show had him recycling toilets in San Francisco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped watching Dirty Jobs since Mike Rowe was forced to do green jobs; he still does. The last show had him recycling toilets in San Francisco.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen in Afghanistan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2009/10/23/laughing-at-leno/#comment-101914</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen in Afghanistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Norton is a brilliant, conservative leaning comedian that makes regular appearances on Leno&#039;s show. He trashed Sharpton a few days back, and other than his appearances, the show is somewhat bland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Norton is a brilliant, conservative leaning comedian that makes regular appearances on Leno&#8217;s show. He trashed Sharpton a few days back, and other than his appearances, the show is somewhat bland.</p>
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		<title>By: cosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Boston Legal? Does nobody watch it? I LOVE it! Of course I live in Europe and it may not be one anymore in the US?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Boston Legal? Does nobody watch it? I LOVE it! Of course I live in Europe and it may not be one anymore in the US?</p>
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