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		<title>By: RASTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>RASTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOCIALISM DEMANDS CAPITALISM [TO PAY FOR IT]SOCIALISM DESTOYS CAPITALISM [ DESTRUCTION OF PRIVATE PROPERY RIGHTS]  PEOPLE THAT WANT FREEDOM WILL BE FORCED INTO SELF-DEFENSE OF THAT FREEDOM. I AGREE WITH BASTIAT WHO SAID...NOW THAT WE HAVE TRIED ALL THESE ISM&#039;S, LET US TRY LIBERTY..FOR LIBERTY IS FAITH IN GOD AND HIS WORKS...&quot;THE LAW&quot; 1850</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOCIALISM DEMANDS CAPITALISM [TO PAY FOR IT]SOCIALISM DESTOYS CAPITALISM [ DESTRUCTION OF PRIVATE PROPERY RIGHTS]  PEOPLE THAT WANT FREEDOM WILL BE FORCED INTO SELF-DEFENSE OF THAT FREEDOM. I AGREE WITH BASTIAT WHO SAID&#8230;NOW THAT WE HAVE TRIED ALL THESE ISM&#8217;S, LET US TRY LIBERTY..FOR LIBERTY IS FAITH IN GOD AND HIS WORKS&#8230;&#8221;THE LAW&#8221; 1850</p>
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		<title>By: The Origins of Obamism &#171; B2 Journal</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Origins of Obamism &#171; B2 Journal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 01:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Origins of Obamism &#8211; Victor Davis Hanson &#8211; 24 dec &#8211; I do not think it will be easy to delay Obamism. It is not just that both houses of Congress are under liberal leadership with ample majorities, with a White House and captive media egging them on. The problem is that now the entire engine of the federal government is harnessed in the most unapologetic way to pushing through a far left agenda. There is no shame, no hesitancy in using the full powers of the state. How does that work out? Without qualification (remember we are in a new age of transparency and ethical reform) votes are bought with hundred-million-dollar earmarks; the attorney general predicates judicial action on the political ramifications of indicting or not indicting; federal bureaucracies (watch the EPA if cap and trade stalls) are devoted to the new Caesar rather than the letter of the law . . .  &#160;  This entry was posted on Thursday, December 24th, 2009 at 09:42 and is filed under asides, asides 2009. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Origins of Obamism &#8211; Victor Davis Hanson &#8211; 24 dec &#8211; I do not think it will be easy to delay Obamism. It is not just that both houses of Congress are under liberal leadership with ample majorities, with a White House and captive media egging them on. The problem is that now the entire engine of the federal government is harnessed in the most unapologetic way to pushing through a far left agenda. There is no shame, no hesitancy in using the full powers of the state. How does that work out? Without qualification (remember we are in a new age of transparency and ethical reform) votes are bought with hundred-million-dollar earmarks; the attorney general predicates judicial action on the political ramifications of indicting or not indicting; federal bureaucracies (watch the EPA if cap and trade stalls) are devoted to the new Caesar rather than the letter of the law . . .  &nbsp;  This entry was posted on Thursday, December 24th, 2009 at 09:42 and is filed under asides, asides 2009. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: clairesolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>clairesolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so much conventional wisdom is just bunk. Let&#039;s just take one example, that the country is hopelessly polarized. How can that be when Independents are the biggest voting block? America has sunk into a relativist muddle. Conservatives are as bad as any. I watched them  nitpick candidates to death over thankless issues as Mormonism, uable to stir themselves to vote for a war hero and lifetime public servant. That showed me that Americans have no creed, anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so much conventional wisdom is just bunk. Let&#8217;s just take one example, that the country is hopelessly polarized. How can that be when Independents are the biggest voting block? America has sunk into a relativist muddle. Conservatives are as bad as any. I watched them  nitpick candidates to death over thankless issues as Mormonism, uable to stir themselves to vote for a war hero and lifetime public servant. That showed me that Americans have no creed, anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Kean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Kean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>214. Ed.A
Rove is a respected commentator on TV, Iraq was approved by Dems &amp; Republicans, and Plame and her husband have been throughly discredited.

238. Fred
&#039;the existential challenges you fear are just small changes at the margin of government &quot;
I hope you&#039;re right but most of us disagree strongly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>214. Ed.A<br />
Rove is a respected commentator on TV, Iraq was approved by Dems &amp; Republicans, and Plame and her husband have been throughly discredited.</p>
<p>238. Fred<br />
&#8216;the existential challenges you fear are just small changes at the margin of government &#8221;<br />
I hope you&#8217;re right but most of us disagree strongly.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great summary, Dr. Hanson.

Your gift is a calmness and precision in laying all this out, which helps tamp down a sense of rising hysteria.

In appreciation for your sharing of insights on PJM and wishing you Happy New Year.

Sincerely,

&quot;no free lunch&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great summary, Dr. Hanson.</p>
<p>Your gift is a calmness and precision in laying all this out, which helps tamp down a sense of rising hysteria.</p>
<p>In appreciation for your sharing of insights on PJM and wishing you Happy New Year.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>&#8220;no free lunch&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Countervailing Views</title>
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		<dc:creator>Countervailing Views</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill M.  The flavor I like is reality....see the comments of Fred, George Fulmore, Tom Ontis and a few others in the comments section.  The panic and fear that is trying to be created in many Blogs (and a network or two) will not serve our nation well.

Any of us who are over the age of 20 know that we live on a seesaw, it is moving today one way (I believe up) before it comes down again.  

My only hope is that somehow we continue to stay &quot;up&quot; a little higher with each cycle. I remain impressed that so many Democratic political leaders seem to be committed to that vision, regardless of the personal cost.  God Bless them.

VDH is a fine writer and can make make many thoughtful points.  I enjoy reading his essays but I never want to live in an echo chamber.

Best of luck to you Bill and a Happy New Year.  Happy new Year to you Professor Hanson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill M.  The flavor I like is reality&#8230;.see the comments of Fred, George Fulmore, Tom Ontis and a few others in the comments section.  The panic and fear that is trying to be created in many Blogs (and a network or two) will not serve our nation well.</p>
<p>Any of us who are over the age of 20 know that we live on a seesaw, it is moving today one way (I believe up) before it comes down again.  </p>
<p>My only hope is that somehow we continue to stay &#8220;up&#8221; a little higher with each cycle. I remain impressed that so many Democratic political leaders seem to be committed to that vision, regardless of the personal cost.  God Bless them.</p>
<p>VDH is a fine writer and can make make many thoughtful points.  I enjoy reading his essays but I never want to live in an echo chamber.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you Bill and a Happy New Year.  Happy new Year to you Professor Hanson.</p>
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		<title>By: Harley Charley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harley Charley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 06:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angry Black guy is the typical guy who thinks no one else understands his plight. He talks like he knows all about slavery from experience. Nada! 
   Why don&#039;t you give up always telling the rest of America nobody knows anything about the poor in this country unless he is a person of color.
   Slavery was a terrible thing. No argument there. I dare say that the average black in America is much better off than the average black in Africa or any other part of the world for that matter.
   Let&#039;s hear it for moderation in all things. This thing Obama has going on is way left of liberalism...left of socalism as well as communism...how about Baby Doc???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angry Black guy is the typical guy who thinks no one else understands his plight. He talks like he knows all about slavery from experience. Nada!<br />
   Why don&#8217;t you give up always telling the rest of America nobody knows anything about the poor in this country unless he is a person of color.<br />
   Slavery was a terrible thing. No argument there. I dare say that the average black in America is much better off than the average black in Africa or any other part of the world for that matter.<br />
   Let&#8217;s hear it for moderation in all things. This thing Obama has going on is way left of liberalism&#8230;left of socalism as well as communism&#8230;how about Baby Doc???</p>
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		<title>By: William Vaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you truly believe that Obama is advocating and pushing a &#039;far left&#039; or progressive agenda, then you&#039;ve really got to take another look at the divisions and goals of the groups within the democratic party.  Obama is not liberal nor is he progressive.  He&#039;s a corporate centrist.  It&#039;s important that you get these things right, because his policies and failures, when viewed through the lens of him being a liberal, cause harm to the longterm goals of actual liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you truly believe that Obama is advocating and pushing a &#8216;far left&#8217; or progressive agenda, then you&#8217;ve really got to take another look at the divisions and goals of the groups within the democratic party.  Obama is not liberal nor is he progressive.  He&#8217;s a corporate centrist.  It&#8217;s important that you get these things right, because his policies and failures, when viewed through the lens of him being a liberal, cause harm to the longterm goals of actual liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Lizdas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lizdas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of one insightful commentator, Victor D. Hanson &quot;makes a doorknob look intelligent &amp; interesting&quot;.  His article on the &quot;origins of Obamism&quot; is just about the most idiotic drivel I&#039;ve read in the current year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of one insightful commentator, Victor D. Hanson &#8220;makes a doorknob look intelligent &amp; interesting&#8221;.  His article on the &#8220;origins of Obamism&#8221; is just about the most idiotic drivel I&#8217;ve read in the current year.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you knew anything about radicals, or &quot;leftists&quot;, you would realize that Obama is no leftist. Are you kidding? 
Did he immediately institute single-payer health insurance when elected, &amp; outlaw insurance comapnies? Did he end both wars? Did he throw the lobbyists out of Washington? Repeal don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell? Bring up Bush/Cheney, both Vietnam service evaders, the latter actually a draft dodger, on war criminal charges? 
He actually broadcast a Christmas message! Christmas! I know, there was some secret message in the tree that read: Death to The Infidel!    
He asked the legislature to propose a modest health care plan that was even less &quot;liberal&quot; than the ones proposed by Nixon &amp; Truman. This was deemed too &quot;left-wing&quot; for most people. 
Oh my God! He appointed czars! I think it has been settled that czars have been a fixture in Washington through several administrations, a fact conveniently ignored by you Righty-Tighties.
He kept on some of Bush&#039;s appointees, which Ann Coulter was even happy about. 
Though you are well-read &amp; literate, you really have no argument. We all know his faults, he is not, however a &quot;communist&quot;, or &quot;socialist&quot;. 
The very same things were said about Roosevelt when he was up for re-election, e.g, he was part of the New York political machine, he was a Communist, he was going to expand social welfare programs that would interfere with business and people&#039;s personal lives, take away private &amp; personal initiative, etc. 
I would think being a student of history that you would realize you are repeating the same swill over and over, ad naseum.    
You would trust health care companies, but not the democratically elected government of this country, with your lives, &amp; let the insurance companies keep the stranglehold they have on every person in this country, from birth to death. So it&#039;s ok for private corporations to control people&#039;s lives, but not the government? 
Wake up fellas, why do you think insurance co&#039;s lobby, at the rate of 1.4 mil a day? You think that they don&#039;t want to control your lives? That they have your best interests at heart? Talk about naive.
What was the unemployment rate two years into Reagan&#039;s first term? And the defecit?
Just let me know. 
Oh, I suppose I could help you out a bit with your research.
Oh my God, your hero Reagan gave you some tax cuts! Whoops, didn&#039;t help.    
Bush did it? Yes, he did, along with some help from Reagan.
Bush got Congress to pass No Child Left Behind and the Medicaire prescription drug act, with no provision to pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you knew anything about radicals, or &#8220;leftists&#8221;, you would realize that Obama is no leftist. Are you kidding?<br />
Did he immediately institute single-payer health insurance when elected, &amp; outlaw insurance comapnies? Did he end both wars? Did he throw the lobbyists out of Washington? Repeal don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell? Bring up Bush/Cheney, both Vietnam service evaders, the latter actually a draft dodger, on war criminal charges?<br />
He actually broadcast a Christmas message! Christmas! I know, there was some secret message in the tree that read: Death to The Infidel!<br />
He asked the legislature to propose a modest health care plan that was even less &#8220;liberal&#8221; than the ones proposed by Nixon &amp; Truman. This was deemed too &#8220;left-wing&#8221; for most people.<br />
Oh my God! He appointed czars! I think it has been settled that czars have been a fixture in Washington through several administrations, a fact conveniently ignored by you Righty-Tighties.<br />
He kept on some of Bush&#8217;s appointees, which Ann Coulter was even happy about.<br />
Though you are well-read &amp; literate, you really have no argument. We all know his faults, he is not, however a &#8220;communist&#8221;, or &#8220;socialist&#8221;.<br />
The very same things were said about Roosevelt when he was up for re-election, e.g, he was part of the New York political machine, he was a Communist, he was going to expand social welfare programs that would interfere with business and people&#8217;s personal lives, take away private &amp; personal initiative, etc.<br />
I would think being a student of history that you would realize you are repeating the same swill over and over, ad naseum.<br />
You would trust health care companies, but not the democratically elected government of this country, with your lives, &amp; let the insurance companies keep the stranglehold they have on every person in this country, from birth to death. So it&#8217;s ok for private corporations to control people&#8217;s lives, but not the government?<br />
Wake up fellas, why do you think insurance co&#8217;s lobby, at the rate of 1.4 mil a day? You think that they don&#8217;t want to control your lives? That they have your best interests at heart? Talk about naive.<br />
What was the unemployment rate two years into Reagan&#8217;s first term? And the defecit?<br />
Just let me know.<br />
Oh, I suppose I could help you out a bit with your research.<br />
Oh my God, your hero Reagan gave you some tax cuts! Whoops, didn&#8217;t help.<br />
Bush did it? Yes, he did, along with some help from Reagan.<br />
Bush got Congress to pass No Child Left Behind and the Medicaire prescription drug act, with no provision to pay for it.</p>
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