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		<title>By: Lee W. Dodson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee W. Dodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 00:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to worry actually, Carter, et al., witness the death of liberalism in the American sense, not the classical sense. They are elitists, one and all, and the marketplace of ideas is extremely unkind to those who allow history to pass them by.

This is why they fight so hard, why Clinton fights so hard, to keep their &quot;better&quot; ways alive, even if it&#039;s on life support and slipping into a permanent vegetative state.

Carter&#039;s policies twenty years ago were seeds to today&#039;s problematic weeds. He senses it, and he will do almost anything to cover it up with &quot;if only you&#039;d listened to me&quot; excuses.

If he and his ilk weren&#039;t so damn petty, they&#039;d be honored for their service, but every time they open their mouths, we are reminded of years of failure.

Too bad Church isn&#039;t around to share the embarrassment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry actually, Carter, et al., witness the death of liberalism in the American sense, not the classical sense. They are elitists, one and all, and the marketplace of ideas is extremely unkind to those who allow history to pass them by.</p>
<p>This is why they fight so hard, why Clinton fights so hard, to keep their &#8220;better&#8221; ways alive, even if it&#8217;s on life support and slipping into a permanent vegetative state.</p>
<p>Carter&#8217;s policies twenty years ago were seeds to today&#8217;s problematic weeds. He senses it, and he will do almost anything to cover it up with &#8220;if only you&#8217;d listened to me&#8221; excuses.</p>
<p>If he and his ilk weren&#8217;t so damn petty, they&#8217;d be honored for their service, but every time they open their mouths, we are reminded of years of failure.</p>
<p>Too bad Church isn&#8217;t around to share the embarrassment.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 11:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the initial giddiness of the MSM and the left over Clinton&#039;s staged rant on Fox News, the reality is beginning to set in that &quot;Mr. Bill&quot; has reverted from the kinder-and-gentler head of the Clinton Foundation to the same mean bastard we all came to know a decade ago. I can&#039;t imagine that is a positive thing for the Democrats.

And if Fox really wanted to be mean-spirited, they would run, back-to-back, clips of Clinton&#039;s rant against Chris Wallace and his infamous &quot;I did not have sexual relations with than woman, Ms. Lewinski&quot; rant in 1998.

Same guy, different suit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the initial giddiness of the MSM and the left over Clinton&#8217;s staged rant on Fox News, the reality is beginning to set in that &#8220;Mr. Bill&#8221; has reverted from the kinder-and-gentler head of the Clinton Foundation to the same mean bastard we all came to know a decade ago. I can&#8217;t imagine that is a positive thing for the Democrats.</p>
<p>And if Fox really wanted to be mean-spirited, they would run, back-to-back, clips of Clinton&#8217;s rant against Chris Wallace and his infamous &#8220;I did not have sexual relations with than woman, Ms. Lewinski&#8221; rant in 1998.</p>
<p>Same guy, different suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Shepard Barbash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shepard Barbash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 04:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re illegal aliens: &quot;in romance they often cling to the notion that an oppressive foreign way of doing things owes them what they cannot obtain.&quot;

In God We Trust--all others bring data... especially for observations like this that are vulnerable to the charge of tendentiousness. Staged marches and the antics of border lobbyists do not constitute data--any more than do my personal experience getting to know a few hundred Oaxacan illegals, whose lives (I would contend) refute the above characterization.

&quot;In republican democracies,&quot; Lincoln observed, &quot;public sentiment is everything. With it nothing can fail; without it, nothing can succeed.&quot; One can reasonably doubt that the public would have put up with so many illegals for so many years if their sense of grievance and entitlement--on balance, as a class--were as bad as you suggest.

I am not with the open-borders crowd, but your sloppiness here ill befits the tradition of the great historians who shaped you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re illegal aliens: &#8220;in romance they often cling to the notion that an oppressive foreign way of doing things owes them what they cannot obtain.&#8221;</p>
<p>In God We Trust&#8211;all others bring data&#8230; especially for observations like this that are vulnerable to the charge of tendentiousness. Staged marches and the antics of border lobbyists do not constitute data&#8211;any more than do my personal experience getting to know a few hundred Oaxacan illegals, whose lives (I would contend) refute the above characterization.</p>
<p>&#8220;In republican democracies,&#8221; Lincoln observed, &#8220;public sentiment is everything. With it nothing can fail; without it, nothing can succeed.&#8221; One can reasonably doubt that the public would have put up with so many illegals for so many years if their sense of grievance and entitlement&#8211;on balance, as a class&#8211;were as bad as you suggest.</p>
<p>I am not with the open-borders crowd, but your sloppiness here ill befits the tradition of the great historians who shaped you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 03:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hanson - I just wanted to take this opportunity to voice my appreciation of your talent and insight.  It is easy to find oneself despairing amongst the current dysfunctional (nay crazy) &quot;conventional wisdom&quot;.  Your words keep my spirits up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hanson &#8211; I just wanted to take this opportunity to voice my appreciation of your talent and insight.  It is easy to find oneself despairing amongst the current dysfunctional (nay crazy) &#8220;conventional wisdom&#8221;.  Your words keep my spirits up.</p>
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		<title>By: William J. Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>William J. Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 23:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Hanson,
Having enjoyed your writings since becoming acquainted with them many years ago in the pages of Military History Quarterly, I especially appreciate your frank and totally justified criticism levelled at Carter and Clinton in their roles as ex-presidents. Speaking now as an elderly Southerner, it occurs to me that one explanation for the difference between their behavior and that of Ford, Reagan and Bush 41 could be that the latter are gentlemen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Hanson,<br />
Having enjoyed your writings since becoming acquainted with them many years ago in the pages of Military History Quarterly, I especially appreciate your frank and totally justified criticism levelled at Carter and Clinton in their roles as ex-presidents. Speaking now as an elderly Southerner, it occurs to me that one explanation for the difference between their behavior and that of Ford, Reagan and Bush 41 could be that the latter are gentlemen.</p>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nathan Ditton: I&#039;ll offer two, the first being 6 Days of War by Oren, and the second being The Case For Democracy by Sharansky. The former is a tough slog if you&#039;re not into military history and names with lots of punctuation, but the latter is a fairly short read and about as clear as glass. There is also Dershowitz&#039;s The Case for Israel, but that one seems a bit obvious!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan Ditton: I&#8217;ll offer two, the first being 6 Days of War by Oren, and the second being The Case For Democracy by Sharansky. The former is a tough slog if you&#8217;re not into military history and names with lots of punctuation, but the latter is a fairly short read and about as clear as glass. There is also Dershowitz&#8217;s The Case for Israel, but that one seems a bit obvious!</p>
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		<title>By: Reportero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reportero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The situation you mention in Oaxaca keeps descending into deeper - and more dangerous - foolishness. Just this week, after four months off the job, the embattled governor finally insisted the striking teachers stop being paid. Actually, the teachers go on strike every year - the running tally is somewhere north of 20 straight years.

One encouraging thing in Mexico, when the PAN party wanted to kneecap Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, they compared the leftist populist with Hugo Chavez. It worked - who needs Yankee bashing?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation you mention in Oaxaca keeps descending into deeper &#8211; and more dangerous &#8211; foolishness. Just this week, after four months off the job, the embattled governor finally insisted the striking teachers stop being paid. Actually, the teachers go on strike every year &#8211; the running tally is somewhere north of 20 straight years.</p>
<p>One encouraging thing in Mexico, when the PAN party wanted to kneecap Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, they compared the leftist populist with Hugo Chavez. It worked &#8211; who needs Yankee bashing?</p>
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		<title>By: uhzoomzip</title>
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		<dc:creator>uhzoomzip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 15:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, coming from the Clinton vs. Fox tirade - I had an interesting thought concerning our national security.  Let&#039;s pretend 09.11.2001 did not happen - or hasn&#039;t happened *yet*.  How would the Bush admin dealt with the growing threat of militant Islamic fundamentalism?  Would he have had the intelligence/military support to put troops on the ground in the Middle East?  Or would he have dealt with trigger-shy politics - as Clinton suggested he did in the 90s.

Exactly what steps was the Bush admin taking after he got into office to deal with terrorism?  Few have been very clear on this.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, coming from the Clinton vs. Fox tirade &#8211; I had an interesting thought concerning our national security.  Let&#8217;s pretend 09.11.2001 did not happen &#8211; or hasn&#8217;t happened *yet*.  How would the Bush admin dealt with the growing threat of militant Islamic fundamentalism?  Would he have had the intelligence/military support to put troops on the ground in the Middle East?  Or would he have dealt with trigger-shy politics &#8211; as Clinton suggested he did in the 90s.</p>
<p>Exactly what steps was the Bush admin taking after he got into office to deal with terrorism?  Few have been very clear on this.</p>
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		<title>By: chip outnumbered in santa rosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>chip outnumbered in santa rosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hanson, you are so fun to agree with. Your presence in the theatre of ideas is such a balm to me. Where the sheer volume of half-thought-out ideas appears to bury reason, your words repair the damage.
The real kicker, though, is that you are such a good writer.
Both qualities in one man: how remarkable and pleasant.
Rave on!
Chip
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hanson, you are so fun to agree with. Your presence in the theatre of ideas is such a balm to me. Where the sheer volume of half-thought-out ideas appears to bury reason, your words repair the damage.<br />
The real kicker, though, is that you are such a good writer.<br />
Both qualities in one man: how remarkable and pleasant.<br />
Rave on!<br />
Chip</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny Vidivici</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny Vidivici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the contrasts could not be more stark.

The same simpletons who label criticism of what they say &#039;stifling of dissent&#039; or a refusal to buy Dixie Chicks CDs &#039;censorship&#039; give Islamists a pass when they rant and riot over what what others say or write.

Or take the Islamist protestors calling for the Pope&#039;s execution outside Westminster Abbey after Sunday services.

Was there any attempt to keep the hecklers away from those attempting to exercise their religious freedom without harrassment?

Or was preservation of the protesters&#039; free speech rights of paramount concern to the police?

Did any of the threats being made constitute &#039;hate speech,&#039; worthy of investigation, as has been the case with negative comments made about Islam?

More important, was there any variation in the &#039;see-how-angry-the-Pope-made-them&#039; template of media coverage?

If a group of protesters, insulted by constant incitement to murder emanating from mosques -- or, perhaps incensed over the slaughter of innocents by Islamist terrorists -- stood outside a mosque calling for the submission or murder of Islam&#039;s &#039;holy men,&#039; think the coverage template would be &#039;look-how-angry-they-are-over-Islamist-atrocities&#039;?

Hardly.  Instead, boilerplate about intolerance and the influence of &#039;right wing hate groups&#039; would be trundled out for yet another encore.  &#039;Society as a whole&#039; would be blamed for its insensitivity and for fostering an atmosphere where such an appalling display of bigotry could take place.

Any police attention would focus on protection of the mosque and its attendees, lest law enforcement authorities be chastised for failure to extend the protection law to &#039;beseiged&#039; minorities.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the contrasts could not be more stark.</p>
<p>The same simpletons who label criticism of what they say &#8216;stifling of dissent&#8217; or a refusal to buy Dixie Chicks CDs &#8216;censorship&#8217; give Islamists a pass when they rant and riot over what what others say or write.</p>
<p>Or take the Islamist protestors calling for the Pope&#8217;s execution outside Westminster Abbey after Sunday services.</p>
<p>Was there any attempt to keep the hecklers away from those attempting to exercise their religious freedom without harrassment?</p>
<p>Or was preservation of the protesters&#8217; free speech rights of paramount concern to the police?</p>
<p>Did any of the threats being made constitute &#8216;hate speech,&#8217; worthy of investigation, as has been the case with negative comments made about Islam?</p>
<p>More important, was there any variation in the &#8216;see-how-angry-the-Pope-made-them&#8217; template of media coverage?</p>
<p>If a group of protesters, insulted by constant incitement to murder emanating from mosques &#8212; or, perhaps incensed over the slaughter of innocents by Islamist terrorists &#8212; stood outside a mosque calling for the submission or murder of Islam&#8217;s &#8216;holy men,&#8217; think the coverage template would be &#8216;look-how-angry-they-are-over-Islamist-atrocities&#8217;?</p>
<p>Hardly.  Instead, boilerplate about intolerance and the influence of &#8216;right wing hate groups&#8217; would be trundled out for yet another encore.  &#8216;Society as a whole&#8217; would be blamed for its insensitivity and for fostering an atmosphere where such an appalling display of bigotry could take place.</p>
<p>Any police attention would focus on protection of the mosque and its attendees, lest law enforcement authorities be chastised for failure to extend the protection law to &#8216;beseiged&#8217; minorities.</p>
<p>Please pardon my long comment.</p>
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