2013: Welcome to Very, Very Scary Times
White Guys Did It
The non-archaic, un-idiosyncratic, and anti-downright evil Professor Seidman presses his argument against his inferiors who wrote the “evil” document: “Instead of arguing about what is to be done, we argue about what James Madison might have wanted done 225 years ago.”
Ah yes, old white male Madison, who lacked the insight, character, and morality of our new liberal technocrats in our successful law schools, such as, well, Mr. Seidman himself:
As someone who has taught constitutional law for almost 40 years, I am ashamed it took me so long to see how bizarre all this is. Imagine that after careful study a government official — say, the president or one of the party leaders in Congress – reaches a considered judgment that a particular course of action is best for the country. Suddenly, someone bursts into the room with new information: a group of white propertied men who have been dead for two centuries, knew nothing of our present situation, acted illegally under existing law and thought it was fine to own slaves might have disagreed with this course of action. Is it even remotely rational that the official should change his or her mind because of this divination?
I suppose human nature changes every decade or so, so why shouldn’t constitutions as well?
I can see Seidman’s vision now: Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi decides that semi-automatic handguns, not cheap Hollywood violence or sick video games, empower the insane to kill, and, presto, their “considered judgment” and favored “particular course of action” trump the archaic and evil wisdom of “white propertied men.” But if we wish to avoid the baleful influence of white guys, can Seidman point to indigenous Aztec texts for liberal guidance, or perhaps the contemporary constitution of liberated Zimbabwe, or the sagacity of the Chinese court system?
The Law Is What We Say It Is
Note the fox-in-the-henhouse notion that a constitutional law professor essentially hates the Constitution he is supposed to teach, sort of like Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg warning the Egyptians not to follow our own constitutional example, when South Africa has offered so much more to humanity than did Madison, Hamilton, Jefferson, and others: “I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012. I might look at the constitution of South Africa.” Ginsburg obviously vacations in Johannesburg, goes to Cape Town for her medical treatment, and has a vacation home and bank account in the scenic South African countryside.
Seidman looks fondly on Roosevelt’s war against the Constitution (especially the notion that law is essentially what an elected president who has proper “aspirations” says it is):
In his Constitution Day speech in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt professed devotion to the document, but as a statement of aspirations rather than obligations. This reading no doubt contributed to his willingness to extend federal power beyond anything the framers imagined, and to threaten the Supreme Court when it stood in the way of his New Deal legislation.
No doubt.
“Fisked” as only FDH can do it. Excellent essay DR.
The truth about the Valerie Plame case. (10 years later)
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2013/01/01/the-truth-about-the-valerie-plame-case-10-years-later/
Seidman: “What has preserved our political stability is not a poetic piece of parchment, but entrenched institutions and habits of thought and, most important, the sense that we are one nation and must work out our differences.”
Our “habits of thought?” I have lived a good many years now and haven’t noticed any largely accepted habits of thought that express that the Constitution needs to be thrown out. In fact all our elected Federal office-holders and members of the armed forces take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution. This would pit obvious traitor Herr Seidman against our President (at least on the record, if not in deeds), the Supreme Court, the Congress, the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, and Coast Guard. (Oh, his free speech is protected by the Constitution he would do away with, so nobody can touch him? I see.)
“…entrenched institutions…”? Like the Supreme Court that would no longer be needed without a Constitution and so would be closed up to save money for more vote buying.
“Most important” is the fact that we are “all one and must work out our differences”. Sorry, but I don’t recognize that Seidman’s lunatic views are any part of my country, and, therefore, the differences I have with him can never be worked out. As far as I’m concerned every elected official in the Federal government should immediately condemn and ridicule that traitorous devil and his ultra-crazy ideas.
I do agree with the “habit of thought” point. It is our culture that really matters. Part of that is the culture that follows rule of law and documents like the Constitution.
Russia and Mexico and many other places have had constitutions, the failure of the cultrue to honor those constitutions is the major problem.
Agreed, excellent takedown of this small-minded Seidman fellow.
I would only add this. Seidman begins his screed by blaming our nation’s ills on our desire for adherence to the Constitution. He then makes the point that we have flagrantly violated our Constitution’s laws repeatedly and have managed to avoid a descent into chaos. Has it not occurred to this nimrod that our “broken” government is the likely result of having strayed so far from the original constraints on federal authority? The average 12-year old possesses greater wisdom than this mental derelict who fancies himself a law professor.
The time for tar and feathers to make a comeback is long overdue.
The main reason we face the problems we now face: the massive overspending and huge debt is because FDR managed to pass unconstitutional programs like social security, and that LBJ was able to follow suit.
Declare the NAACP, National Urban League, 100 Black Men of America, etc. racist hate organizations and make membership illegal. Hey! We did it to the Communist Party, and these groups are the last vestige of institutional racism in America. …Then I would tie Maxine Waters and Michael Eric Dyson to the back of a Chevy pickup truck and drag them around a parking lot until they saw the light on race.
IF American’s don’t get with the Constitutional program, exerting their rights as free Americans, the following will be America’s fate – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/12/27/dhs-americas-planned-deconstruction-via-valerie-jarrett-domestically-foreign-policy-wise-addendum-to-barack-hussein-obamas-deconstruction-plans-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/….not tomorrow, but certainly in the near future.
Once freedom is lost it is night impossible to gain back, at least for many decades. It will cost rivers of blood to flow, for ensuing generations to recover from this generation’s disaster.
Adina, I see you haven’t let up whoring your site on PJM. I’m surprised they continue to let you do this.
Jealous? Keep your nasty comments to yourself. When someone is trying to enrich your knowledge, thank them. Don’t spit in their face.
No, I won’t keep my comments to myself. You don’t like it? Tough.
That was such a nasty comment. Adina does nothing but state truth. There are many on this site that appreciate her investigative skills. You know, the ones that are perverted by our own so called journalists.
Adina does nothing but latch onto the first comment, like a teat. If his blog were good, people would go there, without his spamming.
I’m not commenting on Adinas skills or arguments. I’m commenting on her tiresome habit of using PJM as a vehicle to market her website. She may be the greatest advocate in the world but after a while her MO comes across as tacky.
nigh
Adina, I love your stuff. Keep on writing.
Why does this guy ALWAYS pick the first comment, and then write something incoherent, and link to their blog? Isn’t that spamming? Why does PJM allow this? Somebody cut him off, and disable his spammy links! If you want to subscribe to his blog, then do it. Otherwise, it’s just yammering, and it’s insulting to watch him do it on EVERY STORY. Sheesh.
Count me as a fan of Adina.
Amy!! Adina is a ‘her’.
The communist party USA is still alive and well also. Likely prospering after indorsing the little O.
Remember – GREEN is the new Red!
The commies didn’t go away – they just rebranded. Now they are concerned for mother gaia and the EPA will declare dirt a pollutant so farmers can’t grow food for people.
Was Barack Hussein Obama a Soviet Communist mole?
It’s true that Leftists feel a bit more entitled to state their goals publicly today. But Leftists are all working to destroy existing society. They’ve been on this quest since the French Revolution. And that Revo was one of the purest, even though the first. They worshipped “Reason” and abolished religion. They destroyed churches and monasteries, just like the Taliban destroyed the Buddha statues. They destroy historic cultural and religious shrines because culture and religion are the foundations of every society. The only antidote to Leftism is Rightism. If you’re able to read, you’re observing the uselessness of Conservatism and Moderation in reversing Leftist policies/programs. A stumbling block in the US is that Jewish-Americans reject Rightism anywhere. Jews don’t contol things, but they are ‘very influential’ in media and pop culture, and they demonize the Right at every chance. John Boner is a wimp; it’s time for OUR John Brown to enter, stage Right.
Your right about this and it pisses me off no end. Jews are smart people and yet they have a gut reaction to the so-called right. Can’t they see they are supporting tyrrany and a regime that hates them?
None are so blind as those who choose to not see.
Jews are decended from Abraham and Moses who were able to discern G-d directly. Centuries of training and breeding have disributed at least vestiges of this this ability so that many jews have above average gifts of understanding. Many use their gifts for religious study or scientific or mathematical study of creation . Unforetunately many use their gifts only for their own advancement , while others , seeeking to do good , see that government has far more power than they as individuals will ever have and seek to gain that power to perform good works . The old testament warns against kings/government quite explicitly. But those attracted to power have already transgressed their faith and willingly blunder into falsehoods, to which they cling quite tenaciously . They are oblivious to the obvious ; that charity and love reside within the individual, not in institutions or laws . Reform judiasm is almost entirely corrupted by this error, so that practioners often look to goverment or wealth for solutions and betterment, rather into themselves for the still small voice.
“while others, seeking to do good, see that government has far more power than they as individuals will ever have and seek to gain that power to perform good works.”
“Don’t… tempt me Frodo! I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand, Frodo. I would use this ring from a desire to do good… But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine.”
We’ve seen this movie before.
You mean like THIS?
I’m a natural pessimist (I’d prefer to call it realist) and I’ve come to the belief that there is probably nothing that will be done within the standard political channels to change course in this country. The open calls for tyranny from the paper of record in the US has made me very unsettled. They have no fear of ripping the mask off now. The rumblings on the more fringe liberty-minded blogs have changed in tone. There has always been the defiance and (perhaps empty) bravado, but now it’s changed to mostly quiet determination. Don’t forget that just about any useful firearm and corresponding ammo has now been wiped clean from the stocks.
When Dr. Hanson, whom I consider to be perhaps the most sober and non-hyperbolic writer here at PJM, sees the same trouble coming that I do, it gives me great pause.
Wait! Was silly ‘ol Joe and his communist list poorly executed or what?
” No one can predict in detail what our system of government would look like if we freed ourselves from the shackles of constitutional obligation…”
Uh, yes professor, we can. Chicago, LA, New York? Gun control?
Excellent essay Dr. Hanson. And foreboding is the right word to use. I used it when Obama got elected in 08. We have been a long time getting here by the way. Call it God’s judgement, the karmic wheel turning, cosmic retribution, call it whatever one wishes but the intense selfishness of a population that has allowed the killing of millions of the unborn and nearly born has come to roost. The desire to work and excel has left the majority of our population and now we, like ancient Israel have cried, “give us a king!”
Notice the House has passed the Senate bill avoiding the fiscal cliff and in it Hollywood, one of the fonts of filth in our country, has retained all of its tax breaks and even gained some. The House Republicans couldn’t even get that changed. Abject surrender indeed!
I used to have a problem with abortion. Then I looked at the kinds of people who get abortions: leftists. Conservative women don’t kill their kids, only leftists do that.
Why should I exert time and energy worrying about the offspring of my existential enemies?
Hear, hear.
Yes – and those (leftists) women are inherently selfist and would have no doubt put their babies up for adoption. Killing a potential Einstein or Mozart is never the answer.
So true. But that is too commonsensical to expect our Jesus-humping-hordes to grasp. Abortion is the most importantest issue ever!
“Jesus-humping hordes…?” Don’t you have anything better to do than pee on fellow conservatives? Normally I am a patient, loving person, but drop dead.
Sorry, but you are very, very wrong. Leftists have friends, relatives, cousins, and telephones. One of the worst weeks, ever, was hearing my mother list out all the people who called her up to tell her to abort me. One DROVE HER to an abortionist, and dragged her into his office. She was barely 90 pounds, probably 80something pounds, and five feet tall. She fought. She was a teenager, in high school. She got knocked up by her boyfriend. She was trying to keep it secret enough, so he could finish college. She didn’t know he loved her, just that he had used her.
Her own relatives- his relatives, too, once he found out. I’ve been on the phone with them. They are proud of what they were arguing for. To my face, they were proud of arguing that I shouldn’t even get a chance to exist.
Leftist women don’t intend to have kids. They get jobs in media and in school. They look professional and intimidating. They are wealthier and more influential than regular, schleppy housewives. They are social workers driving vulnerable teens to the abortion clinic, across state lines, for instance. They are teachers, and professors, and school nurses. For that matter, they are, occasionally, pastors in some congregations.
I’m in my forties- I would have been in that first wave of legal abortions. My mother had to flee to a distant relative in a far city, and hide under her protection ( IN AMERICA!!!) until I was born. My dad, upon hearing that his summer fling had produced a child spent months- MONTHS!- finding her, and then begging her to trust him enough to keep her safe, for her to marry him. They had another child near immediately, stayed in contact with her family mostly, and then joined the military and petitioned to get out of the country.
This sounds like some awful Taliban special, doesn’t it? It was in America, b/c of a death-dealing, pro-choice harpy. I literally cannot imagine the grief and fear my mother endured to keep me safe and alive. I thought she was lying when she told me, it was so bizarre. I called and asked the participants who were still alive- they are still proud and sure of what they did- they said it to my face. To me- To ME- the one they would have killed without concern.
I thought there was anomaly. I was married, with two children. Married to a good man with a good job, with lovely, cared for, happy, smart children. I got pregnant a third time, and I had relatives- on his side (!)- driving up to tell me to get rid of it- screaming at me that it was too much, too many, I was too old, that she would never help- I had every friend from before my marriage tell me that I shouldn’t have more- my husband’s boss took him out and the guys wife suggested an abortion for me, and a vasectomy for him. For the environment. This couple had four children. I was pregnant with our third.
Seriously, we are religious, stable, married for years, financially stable, well-educated, I volunteer, he works 60 hours at a responsible job, he’s got multiple degrees, I’ve got certificates for my field, we own a house- we are excellent parents- and yet, somehow, my children shouldn’t exist.
It’s a sickness. An absolutely Absolutist evil. They don’t just kill their own children, they want to kill everyone else’s children.
White populations world wide are THE only group self limiting their reproduction to under replacement, in other words we ARE voluntarly cutting down our own population, evert other race on this planet is pumping out babies like factories. Whites, expecially white AMericans, Europeans, Russians are NOT THE POPULATION PROBLEM. Yet they are trying genocide on us.
Im with the guy above who thought abortion was OK for his enemies, not for him and his. Leftests ARE right that the world is over populated and a food crysis IS comeing, but WE arent the problem and WE wont starve.
THe miserable screws who wanted your mother to kill you are just more brainwashed idiots genociding their own race in the face of massive pandemic overbreeding by the other races.
No, abortion is not primarily a war against white babies./strong>
WOW! Holy SHIT! Lady, you’ve scared the hell out of me. I have always been against abortion for philosophical reasons. But you take it beyond the philosophical and bring it out into the real world. Thank you. And I mean this. Thank you.
Beautiful post Ari, thank you
Very good post.
Ari, you have my respect.
Ari, your mother is a noble woman. I can’t imagine the degree of strength it must have taken to stand up against that kind of family pressure. I wish her situation and yours were exceptions, but they aren’t. I’ve heard similar stories in my own family (including a cousin forcibly taken across state lines by her father to get an abortion).
We have seized upon the most amazing ability a women can have–to produce human life–and turned it into an inconvenience to be discarded. We have become less “humane” than any other species on this planet when it comes to protecting our own young.
I’m older than you and was an unwanted pregnancy in 1957 when the law still protected my right to be alive. The woman who gave birth to me, unknown to me still, gave me up for adoption and I’ve had a great life as a result. When someone says they’re going to kill their baby, they are effectively telling me to drop dead. So I say it back to them.
I’ll call Mom today and let her know I love her. And that ya’ll respect her.
Honestly, it’s easy to miss: “mom and dad married young…blah….dinosaurs…blah…mom was in high school….uphill both ways….soap for naughty words….blah blah blah.” It just really did not register that this was important information. She’s MOM- she bakes cookies- really, I got five tins of Christmas cookies from her, this year- she makes quilts, she’s pudgy, and kind of dingbatty- I get letters about what her cats and dog are doing today- she wears dorky mom clothes outfits- gold shoes with panty hose and shorts to go to the beach—
A story about her being skinny, and 17 and making straight As and vulnerable- trapped in a grotty little medical office with a vicious relative and an abortionist not asking too many questions—that doesn’t sound like MOM. She ran out the front door, and into another business to escape. I think of abortion clinics to day, with locks and panic buttons and protesters out front. I didn’t see how she could get in, or out, or away, or anything. I couldn’t even imagine her at 17. She’s my mom, she’s pudgy and she bakes cookies for me and she dresses weird, and she watches lame tv shows. I saw a photo of where she described, in the right city, in a book on urban planning. It was a tiny little house office, on the wrong side of town. She could have been there, and run out. She did.
I didn’t think it was true, at all. It’s too hard to imagine. Then my dad would mention some detail that corresponded to what she said. Or I’d find something at the house with a name painted on it, from her story- a real person, not made up. I called, and the relatives in question were open. I thought they’d lie, too. I’m alive- I was in my 30s at the time. They’ve seen me every summer for my whole life. I’m alive- I’m real- I’m a person- they held me as a baby, they’ve held my children- and yet they stand by what they were trying to do?
My MIL drove 3 hours to yell at me, when she found out I was pregnant. Then she came back two days later to yell at my husband. She was screaming at me about her son being too young- he was in his 30′s, we have two sons already- she was screaming she’d never help- which I don’t get, she doesn’t help anyway- and on and on. It was literally like a scream from hell. I don’t understand what drove her to this. We were married for ten years already. We are happily married, the kids already here were healthy, happy, flourishing. We both had jobs. We wanted as many kids as my body could handle. We want them to have friends for their entire lives.
His boss? He thought they were going for a meeting to discuss a new business deal. He’d spent the last year putting together multi-million dollar deals. He had two partners in this- an alcoholic, drug-addled homosexual guy in a tempestuous relationship, and a newly-wed woman. The gay guy said ” Congratulations!” and brought him a gift- yellow booties. The woman said, to his face, if she had to choose between saving a drowning child, or a drowning kitten, she’d choose the kitten. He said ” You know my wife is pregnant, right?” She answered ” Yep. I’d save the kitten.” So he’d moved his business away from them.
He was waiting to transfer to another branch. His supervisor took him out for a meeting, and spent the meeting explaining he could get a vasectomy, and that abortions could be covered under insurance, if he lied. He checked. Having your boss suggest you get your nuts cut off, more or less, is not harassment.
We really did not talk to a lot of people after our third child was born. Who could we trust? My husband has built this group of friends at work, and it’s guys who are married with kids. His next supervisor deliberately hired men with families- he’d been through similar stuff.
My MIL coos about how she loves her grandchildren, and she wonders why I stare at her, as if she were some bizarre lizard. She’s finally noticed that I don’t talk to her, I don’t listen to her, I don’t stay in the same room with her, that I don’t ask the kids to hug her, ever. I try not even to look at her.
I explained I held my children b/c of Attachment Parenting. I held onto my kids all the time when they were babies b/c I didn’t know that they were safe. I wonder if I’m the only one like that. I can’t be.
If I say ‘congratulations’ to a new mom, she looks relieved, and surprised. We were at Costco a few months ago, and there was a family with 6 kids, including a new baby. They were eating at the food court. The older kids were helping the younger kids. They were in athletic uniforms- the two oldest, dresses, jeans. They were happy together. I was next to the mom, picking up some pizza- I said ” Your family…” and she hunched up, tensed up- ” is beautiful.” and she relaxed. She said she usually heard that she had too many.
Notice how most articles about birth control feature photos of pregnant women? Do they feel safe? Are they?
I wonder when I read stories like yours if my husband should ever look for his biological parents. He was born in 1972, just before Roe, his birth and adoption were carried out under semi-quickie circumstances. His adoptive parents had been told that they would not have a child for at least 6 months, but suddenly they were called out of the blue and told that there was a male child for adoption … now. That was my husband. We have a letter from a biological grandparent that gives him some sketchy info. We know, for example, that his mother was 16 and the father was 21. We know they lived in the NE, but for some reason, he was adopted from Florida.
So, we always wonder if he would have even survived that first wave had he been just a year or so later.
And, while he doesn’t feel any obligation to his biological parents, he has a certain amount of curiosity and wants to know some things genetically. But, your story and his circumstances makes me wonder.
maybe. how’s that for positive?
all of my friends parents are teenage parents. half were adopted by older, more stable couples. their stories range from heart-breaking to heartbreaking. How strong is your husband? How strong are you?
The found mothers have ranged from: respected wife and mother of one other child, career, to homeless, mentally ill, to sociopath in jail, to lunch-lady who kept the next kid as a single mom, to mother of a drug addict that the adopted kid tried to help- no thanks given- to never had another kid, heartbroken at the kid being adopted out, glad the kid is doing well. That’s one mom, out of a group of ten mothers. A few corporate warriors. One of the corporate ones had her kid tested, to see if the kid was her biological kid. It was. Then she still couldn’t believe it. Oh, two of the moms had ended up adopting other kids.
Add in, viciousness about how the kid looks or behaves- nice, normal kids who maybe look like the father a little bit, or have accents that aren’t like the mother. or they are jealous- the adopting couple has money, and spent it on caring for the kid. or they are a different religion than the bio-mom. One kid ended up going alcoholic, b/c she couldn’t handle any more rejection and hatred and contempt and fear. She’d had a rocky adoption, and was hoping for love and acceptance and understanding.
I mean, there’s a reason that kid got adopted out. Maybe the mom isn’t functioning too well. Or, maybe she was just young and vulnerable and trying to do the right thing. It’s hard to tell.
The main thing is- they sacrificed a year of their life to give an infant a chance at life. That might be the most heroic, loving thing they’ve ever done, so it doesn’t really matter what happens afterwards.
My mom suffered a great deal of brain damage right after my brother’s birth. She’s really ding-batty. I have to explain stuff like “when to go to bed” when she gets tired. She bakes cookies, and throws tantrums, and I literally do not care that she can’t reason her way out of a paper-bag. When she was 17, she ran out of a doctor’s office, and into an office across the street and hid. She was smart enough for the both of us, then. My brother and I can be smart for her now.
most people don’t know but abortion was legal in Washington state a year or so BEFORE Roe v Wade Washing ton has lead the country on many issues and what is wrong about Roe v Wade is two fold. First, there is not “right of privacy” in the constitution, atall. Next, this is truly the a States Rights issue and the courts decided wrongly as this was a judicial taking of the first magnitude. We as coonservatives MUST stand up and fight these and other abuses by the FEDERAL government. Remember alway “that government that governs least, governs BEST”
I think the rest of us may want to shut up a while whenever a survivor of potential or attempted abortion such as this one has something to say about the subject. Thank you for sharing this.
Is that a thing now? A survivor of a potential abortion? Will they start a support group where they will tell each other their stories of survival?
Um, well, you don’t have to have a support group. It’s everyone born after 1972 in the United States. It’s been in every ” we got pregnant!” conversation for two generations, at this point. The USA has sent the equivalent of 24 (26?) states population up the chimney or down the drain, before they even had a chance to start.
We also don’t need a whimpering support group b/c the type of person who decides to tell an employee to kill off his kid and cut off his nuts(more or less) is the sort of person who is going to make other bad personnel comments, and not have any staff support. They get sent away for lame work results.
A baby is a disruptive technology, by its very existence. The sort of person who sees potential, or possible potential, is the sort of person we like in the West.
The sort of person who sees a baby as worthwhile and worth keeping around in some way or another- kept or adopted out- is the sort of person who believes the future is going to be okay, and that it’s going to be interesting and worthwhile. This means that the harpies- when they are old- they are alone with each other, and wondering why no one visits them in the old folks home. Or they visit each other. I see that in my family- the main dreadfuls- they spend their time visiting with other old childless, or only children living far away- types.
The people who bet on kids? are betting on the future, and life. This means, for instance, my dad gets Christmas cards from artists all over the world, that he’s cared for in some studio friends thing. This means my mom had a tablet before anyone else in the family, and plays video games, and hangs out with a touring rock music drummer when he comes through town. He takes her out on his motorcycle.
The guy who took care to hire dads with multiple kids? Got promoted. Dads work their butts off, and stay mostly sober. They get three sheets to the wind together at the quarterly meeting- but they all get each other into cabs- who needs widows and orphans? Dads have lots and lots and lots of practice managing irresponsible, immature, not sure about the program employee-types- their called kids. They learn racing on the rusty bicycles. Put them with grownups? They’re great.
People keep whinging on that the future is conservative, religious, pro-child- you know, it belongs to the people who show up?- mormons, quiver-fulls, evangelicals, catholics, main-liner protestants with multiple kids, southerners and westerners?- and I don’t see a downside. Optimistic, hardworking, religious, young, healthy. What’s not to like?
If you are happy to see the innocent babies of your enemies die then I don’t know what you are fighting for because your victory would be a moral hell.
The people getting abortions are the well off leftists. Unfortunately, the government dependent breeder class does not.
That outcome has often been predicted, but the statistics do not bear it out.
Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin.
Deuteronomy 24:16
You’re wrong to think that a
…left/liberals can be trusted to leave anyone’s freedom of life, liberty and property alone.
You’re wrong to think that in the socialist utopia “everyone has the same slice of stuff from the zero-sum pie.” Obama lives like a pharaoh, while his Democrat elite also enjoy great wealth and privilege.
True. And, true of every “utopia” ever invented. Stalin’s ‘nomenklatura’ lived the high life in the old USSR; ditto the henchmen of Hitler and Mao. It is all about power, power, money, money, etc. Anyone who thinks the left wing liberals don’t aspire to having more than thee and me is a fool…and an uneducated fool as well!
There will be a point where the people will no longer take any more and then the power will shift violently. It has always been this way and it will be again. Messy, yes. Necessary, probably. We should all study history more and stop with watching sports and movies and playing video games.
Progressives/leftists may be arrogant beyond belief, but they know that their hold on the nation will not be secure until they monopolize force. Free-born citizens with the Constitutional right (even “obligation”, Professor S.!), not to hunt, or target shoot, but to resist a tyrannical government, stand between them and complete victory. The Sandy Hook murders present another opportunity for that “national conversation” the Left keeps losing, at least to date: just another crisis not to be wasted.
“They have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”
>You’re wrong to think that in the socialist utopia “everyone has the same slice of stuff from the zero-sum pie.” Obama lives like a pharaoh, while his Democrat elite also enjoy great wealth and privilege.
Socialist Utopianism is not a rational argument. It is “argumentum ad crotcham”. The mind readily sees that Obama cruises far above garden variety hypocrisy. Obama’s genius is that he draws in the victims to view him as some sort of lottery winner. A vote for Obama is a lottery ticket, and you too have a share in the chance of delivering drivel off of a teleprompter. Here is your handout.
Rational? No. Effective? Bet your bippy.
But that has been their whole plan all along. It’s no fun to be one of the “haves” unless you can rub it in the faces of the “have-nots.”
People who have “stuff” tend not to care what “stuff” other people have. What better way to enjoy your status than to take the “stuff” away from the proles?
Over ten million people starved to death in the “socialist paradise” in the 1930s and there’s no record of a single member of the Communist Party missing a meal, let alone starving to death. That’s socialist equality for you.
I’m afraid you’re wrong about no Communist bigshots ever starving.
It’s true that the Soviet Communists had special arrangements for food beginning only a couple of weeks after Lenin seized power in a coup. This arrangement continued until Gorbachev’s day. Party members were entitled to food under these arrangements and it caused no little resentment among those who realized it was happening. But quite a number of Communists fell afoul of the party leadership, especially in Stalin’s day, most notably during the Purges, and found themselves in the gulag. There, they were NOT entitled to extra rations and starved just like the other prisoners. Read Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago or Robert Conquest’s various books on the subject, particular The Great Terror.
Well, once they fell out of favor, they were no longer “bigshots.”
We’re on a collision course with a second civil war, it seems. The progressives will not accept even the slightest resistance to their sweeping changes to enslave the masses and institute their theology to create the New New Socialist Man. Any serious possibility that a portion of their program will be rejected will be met with violence by it’s ‘morally and intellectually superior’ adherents.
Sounds extreme? Think about the implications of the arrest that happened today in downtown Manhattan – a couple who were essentially 1%’ers were caught with weapons, ammunition, extremely volatile explosives, and apparently some plans to start up a new ‘symbionese liberation army’ or ‘weather underground.’ Think about the fact that over 500 murders happened in Chicago in 2012, including 60 children killed (and another 400+ wounded), and yet no one in Chicago dares to challenge progressive scripture regarding the city’s implementation of extremely strict gun control laws.
There’s no way the union will survive the next 4 years. There will indeed be states that will secede. Texas will be the first, with Wyoming, Idaho and Utah following closely behind.
Our nation has gone mad.
Oklahoma has just joined the growing list of states that have declared themselves “Sovereign States”. It appears that we are well on our way to leaving the liberal looney left behind and starting over. There won’t be much of a civil war when almost the entire nation chooses to leave.
I don’t think that states will “choose to leave” so much as they will choose to exercise the Tenth Amendment. What will be interesting is when (hopefully) it comes a showdown between some governor and the Feds.
Right, “Paul”;
I’ll be close behind my governor locked & loaded.
(Why do I keep hearing the 1812 Overture?)
WE should be so lucky that state governnors tell the feds to get off.
That is THE optimal situation, the more likely situation will be gun confiscation, a repeat of the Condord bridge. A LESS likely situation but still up there in my mind, is defense of a popular shariff like Arpio, I and thousand of Arizonians have told the Sheriff and his deputies, “if you call, we will come”.
I have little hope for Missouri since it has a Democrat for a Governor, but it does have enough of a Red legislature that they can override the veto. My hope here is that Kansas jumps on board with the other states when they go. I live less than 15 miles from the border with all my family and family land in Kansas. Of course, maybe Nixon will hie back to more blue dog roots like a Truman democrat if things get ugly enough.
You got that right!
You could be right. Beneath the incoherent thinking brilliantly laid out by prof Hanson, lurk even more sinister passions and drives. Joking publicly about killing white people has become de rigeur lately…
There is considerable (and disturbing) scientific evidence suggesting that the urge, especially among males, to kill large numbers of humans is deeply wired into our brains… a relic of our simian past. Indeed it is possible that this instinct has contributed to our success as a species. Being such aggressive competitors may have been one of the drivers behind the evolution of consciousness. Thankfully for the vast majority of us that urge is safely buried beneath other more powerful instincts like empathy, love, and creativity. It is only when we are under extreme threat (or feel ourselves to be) that it sometimes comes out. It can also be brought forward by charismatic leaders who harp on our resentments and fears, and awaken this inner demon. And btw women possess it too, they just don’t act on it directly as often.
I believe that Obama and others on the left are deliberately trynig to stir mass violence; against whites in particular. This kind of civil unrest would allow him to invoke emergency powers and impose martial law. It would also allow him to fulfill the old racist, revanchist and genocidal fantasies that drive so many on the left today. He is playing with fire of course, because once unleashed, there is no telling how such conflict will play itself out. Historically there is a better than even chance that many who unleashed the conflict will themselves become its victims. I can’t say for sure that this is what they have in mind, but they are certainly willing to push the envelope and risk it. That in itself tells you a lot.
Stay alert…
“…a relic of our simian past…”?
If that’s true, so what’s the problem? It’s each (evolved) monkey for himself…simians don’t bother much about rules by which to live, ya’ know. If a stronger, smarter simian wants someone else’s branch, or rock, or banana, there is absolutely nothing immoral about about killing, if necessary, to get it. The lions eat the defeated, (formerly) evolved carcass, nobody remembers the event beyond the time it takes to scatter the remains, everybody goes back to scratching themselves and glaring at intruders.
So, evolution goes full circle, and since there’s no compelling reason not to become apes again, except that fur is dang inconvenient; being hard to comb and all; don’t come with any clap-trap “empathy, love, and creativity” stuff.
Who needs self-restraint when there is no G-d to ultimately account for one’s actions to?
Say…that’s a nice bunch of yellow bananas you’ve got there…
Who said there is no God?
The latest research on the evolution of intelligence is even more direct:
Predators evolve intelligence. The apex predator, with no other species
above to cull out the defectives, necessarily becomes auto-predatory.
Provided other prey did not run out there is no logical reason for any apex predator to prey upon their own species. Owls and eagles dont, nor do they eat their young. Instead mating couples cooperate . Humans too often cooperate (unless criminally inclined ) and do better by doing so.
One excellent reason to view the theory of evolution as merely a convenient means of talking about distibution of genetic material rather than a serious scientific theory is that it can be used to explain ANYTHING and that there is no means of disproving “evolutionary” propositions.
2 interesting questions for Darwinian evolutionists are :1) what is a species and 2) how can the ribosome ( which manufactures all protiens in all life ) itself be partially composed of protiens ?
Those are not interesting questions. They are retarded questions. (ug I hate to take your bait, but…) The first question has nothing to do with anything. Biologists know that the idea of a “species” is a man-made construct- it’s just useful when talking in general about life forms. The second is like saying “Which came first the chicken or the egg! Aha gotcha!” Ribosomes make proteins, they are also made up of other proteins- this is not some mind-blowing idea. A protein is not a fundamental particle or something.
There ARE intelligent arguments to be made for the existence of God in the light of evolution (but these are not them).
The evangelitard creationists come out of the woodwork. Repeating the same debunked points over and over again like antigun kooks.
Of course, that all makes perfect sense to those whose outlook reduces human beings to things animals or machines. And as modern history history has so clearly shown, therein lies the foundation for mass murder, slaughter and atrocity for its own sake. Since you appear to agree with these killers without conscience, don’t complain when you share the fate of their victims. As you surely will.
The evangelitard talks about how humans are magical beings. Silly evangelitard. I don’t need a concept of a personal god to protect me from cold blooded killers, my body armor and my gun will do just fine.
Questions: Do you pedestalize women? Do you condone no-fault divorce? Do you promote shitty advice that tells men that women are attracted to nice guys?
The irony of course is that ancient and medieval churchmen knew that humans were flawed animals, even though they believed God breathed Imago Dei into them. The Evangelitards have a feminized view of the human animal in contrast to the ancient church.
Rockethead – your response indicates that if there were such a thing as a F**kwit’s Pride Day in San Francisco, your float would be leading the parade down Market Street.
You understand nothing. Pathetic.
You won’t refute any of my points? Won’t answer my rather simple questions? Typical evangelitard response.
To: R7 Rocket
“You won’t refute any of my points? Won’t answer my rather simple questions? Typical evangelitard response.”
I will answer your points. What are they?
I’ve thought the same thing was in the cards for a long time. No socialist, semi-socialist, krypto-fascist-socialist, or even self-anointed “progressive” regime’ in history has ever been able to resist what has been called “the siren song of cleansing violence”.
As much as anything else, because once they have near-absolute power, just having it isn’t enough. They have to use it, to reassure themselves that they actually have it.
Plus, let’s be honest, many of the “progressives” are types who just thrill to the idea of hurting people. I suspect many of them were schoolyard bullies as kids, and never saw any reason to grow out of it. Why should they? It got them what they wanted- power, and with it the ability to hurt people.
I agree with you that they may be enamored of the thought of burning down “hated honkey AmeriKKKa” and of putting anyone and everyone they don’t like to the sword.
But they fail to consider the old saying that goes, starting an avalanche is all too easy; stopping it is next to impossible. And getting in front of it to try to aim it just gets you buried by it.
Avalanches hurt.
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Eon, I think the average leftist was never a schoolyard bully but a passive/aggressive type who liked to snitch, lie about and get others into trouble.
Their becoming bullies is the result of being afforded power by their cronies. They become insulated and thus, can act out their hatred and violent tendencies without fear of retribution.
We all may possess such attributes which is what Christ talked about when one should forgive those who trespass against us. It takes a supremely noble individual to not desire revenge. I’ll admit that sometimes, revenge is a whole lot of fun but if it means really hurting someone or causing them significant pain then…the “best revenge is living well” in that case.
Problem with lefty socialists is that they are perpetually angry. Blame, finger-pointing which begets vengeance, usually of violent means. I’m pretty sure obama, reid, pelosi, holder, and many others on that side would shed no tears if Rush Limbaugh was to (God forbid) die in a horrible, painful way. In fact, I’m pretty sure they’d all come out and gloat about it and say some pretty horrendous things.
No, the typical leftist socialist used to take a magnifying glass to ants on a sunny day and/or hurt puppies or kittens and enjoy the pain they inflicted. The one thing that has always struck me about socialists is their inability to deal with their own anger. Why it’s there, how to turn it into something constructive, laugh at it, what-have-you. No..someone always has to pay in pain for it.
It’s who they are and what they do.
No need to speculate. Remember the orgy of gloating after Andrew Breitbart passed?
The Strelnikov character in Dr. Zhivago is a perfect exemplar.
@ Art Chance -
That movie is scary prescient. However, if we are correct about the left – and we are – how could it not be. Everything that has been going on these past four years is in there somewhere.
I tend to agree with you. I recall several years back when George Clooney was on the Jay Leno Show and gloated that Charlton Heston had Alzheimer’s disease. Lord knows Looney Clooney would have first gone savage followed up by high dudgeon and finally pouting lips had someone made fun of his overweight, diabetic and perpetually depressive aunt, singer Rosemary Clooney. Cruelty as irony, cruelty as humor…very liberal.
Calls for ideological purity from the right lead down a similar road.
Freedom or death.
Everything else is B.S.
Baloney and blow it out your p–p chute.
It has been my experience that those with a Progressive political agenda (as opposed to traditional heartstring liberals) were more commonly awkward in their youth, and have more of “entitled to revenge” as their underlying motivation.
“Thankfully for the vast majority of us that urge is safely buried beneath other more powerful instincts like empathy, love, and creativity.”
For many humans empathy, love, and creativity are not more powerful. In fact for too many Americans the urge to take from others what they don’t have is central to their voting and the way they conduct their lives …
F’rinstance: Mexicans have had the vote nearly as long as we have, yet, they never seem to get the hang of it. They almost always elect the worst person.
That’s because they didn’t have two thousand years of Law and Culture to draw upon, so that they could know which decisions to make. They were still eating each other just 500 years ago when the Spanish arrived.
So, letting as many of them into this country as possible helps whom, exactly?
It helps them if you demand that they assimilate to the dominate culture and become Americans first and Mexicans second, the same way our ancestors become Americans first and whatever else we all were second. But, instead, we have this multi-culti crap where we insist that all cultures are co-equal and don’t enforce assimilation.
There is the idea of the great melting pot for a reason. We all melt together to create the American alloy which is stronger than whatever else we are were, but it was still the AMERICAN allow and American in culture.
I agree, inner city riots and attacks on white people (as obama throws the black community under the bus) will be the given reason for martial law. Once our military sees itself in THAT light and accepts its role, we are in trouble.
I also agree this administration is delusional in thinking they can escape the conflageration once ignighted.
We are a nation of laws (David Gregory waving a Hi-capacity M16/AR15 mag around
in D.C where it is verboten)or Chicago’s ultra strict gun laws and high crime
rate , just wait until President Obama replaces any Supreme court justice that
retires ..Watch how fast things go down hill then.
An oft-cited misquote, apparently, of “A government of laws and not of men.”
That pesky Constitution prevents Lord David Gregory from getting his title of nobility.
/sarc
Leftist tyranny (what the NYT article about junking that pesky ol’ Constitution implies as a substitute)… has anybody tried it before (I recall there might’ve been something in Russia like that once)?
But they did it all wrong, and we’re smarter than they were. We learn from their mistakes. And, we have Iphones now.
Yeah, never mind anything George Orwell wrote about…
Unfortunately, they do learn from their mistakes. The worst mistake the communists ever made was attempting/threatening to confiscate German industry. The German capitalists made their piece with Hitler’s NSDAP who promised to protect the owners who “coordinated” the actions of their business with the needs of the Party.
Today, if you hook up with the Soros Junta not only can you keep your business, you can get the government to put your competitors out of business for you.
Look to history to understand what is happening right in front of our eyes today.
Obama is nothing more that the latest iteration of those political despots we “thought” would never inhabit our shores, dictators that our nation formerly spent blood and treasure destroying when it visited other nations.
For crying out loud, not even Jefferson Davis, the President of the Confederacy was as adamantly against this Republic as the Obama cabal openly proclaims to be – the Confederate Constitution was nearly a clone of the U.S. Constitution absent the issue of slavery. Obama does not even want that. He would scrap the entire thing and hurl the entire bunch of us into indentured servitude to the state.
Every action, every action, of this administration is predicated upon maximum harm to the economy, politics, morals and Judeo-Christian ethics that undergird this Republic and its society.
Make no mistake – Barack Obama is the Anti-Madison, the man who came to take our Constitution away from us
However, there is an undercurrent that suggests a looming clash between the usurpers and those who cherish their nation and their Constitution. You know what I am talking about, don’t you? The words of Jefferson echo through the ages as to what must be done.
I think that is why you’re not seeing crowds upon the National Mall like you did during the Tea Party rallies – its the calm before the storm.
They realize that the next step is resorting to the inspiration left to us in the Declaration of Independence and the instructions in the Bill of Rights. Our Founding Fathers were right in the days of the quill pen, they are right today in the days of the internet.
Make no mistake that there is a leftist/progressive coup d’etat going on right now – a silent one that is completely okeedokee with the fourth estate, those who were formerly charged with reporting upon the machinations of government for a free people.
As you said, “the calm before the storm”. – Tea Party people rallied legally and decently; then watched as they were demonized, then copied by “Code Pink” and “Occupy” people who were doing the debauched acts the Tea Party was only ACCUSED of doing. – So, the Tea Party people took a breather. – All thinking people are taking a breather in order to determine what evil this way comes next. It is so true that “sufficient to the day is the evil thereof”.
It’s the theme of post 1776 history.
Before then, despots had ruled from the dawn of civilization. The American Revolution changed that. Since then, the would-be despot have devoted thousands of lives to climbing back into the tyranny saddle. Now they think they have won at last. The envy card (aka, marxism, redistribution, fairness, et al) is their magic bullet.
Hence the never-ending attacks on the second amendment. Now that 50%+ of the population is dependent on the tyrants, an armed and angry minority is the only thing that stands in their way. The Bill of Rights was an after-thought. It was a good one.
Kaul, in the fashion of his kind, imagines that the one obstacle to gun control, “licensing” or confiscation is the vile “Gun Lobby.” Suppress it and its 4.3 million members will disperse while the millions of armed citizens will tamely turn in their fire-arms. No need to estimate the number of arrests, the vast deployment of police power, and the casualty rate from resistance. It’s not the malice that astonishes, or even the obsession with expanding government power. It’s the depths of his stupidity.
I stopped reading right here:
“These are the most foreboding times in my 59 years. The reelection of Barack Obama has released a surge of rare honesty among the Left about its intentions, coupled with a sense of triumphalism that the country is now on board for still greater redistributionist change.”
This “rare honesty” of the intentions left is simply this; they now are out of the closet with the fact that they are “making history”, by again setting themselves up as the “gods of this age”. No men “make history” in the sense that the left thinks it does; the only one that makes history is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Islam wants to “make history” too; by “forcing” world events to accelerate the return of the mahdi. Both methods of coercion (by the left and Islam) are exactly the same … they play God with our lives.
These times are only “foreboding” because of the fear of the future instilled by the Left and Islam. The future is what they target; they hate it, and they want to control it. Here is but one example from each of the ungodly entities:
1) The left steals the future by targeting children, since children ARE the future. Insurmountable debt to demoralize the youth; and mass killing of those youth still in the womb.
2) Islam steals the future by controlling every aspect of their subjects’ lives while they are living … condemning women and children to slavery. Any doubts as to the intention to enslave can be dismissed by witnessing Islam’s men hiding behind women and children when attacked, and by their use of women and children as gun fodder in the expansion of their hideous caliphate. The future of women and children in Islam is dire; hopeless and very “foreboding” indeed.
Contrast the two examples above with the desire of our Founders to establish a constitutional republic; a desire driven by their belief and trust in divine providence. Yahweh Himself set that desire (freedom from tyranny) in the hearts of our Founders; so that the U.S.A. could be a “shining light upon the hill” for an entire world to see; a real life example of the love of God for his creation.
We, as a Christian nation, are Israel; a spiritual Israel. We are linked to Israel even in our constitution. How Israel goes; so do we. Israel is currently able to supply itself with energy from natural gas for at least 150 years!! Why, only a few months ago Egypt was bombing Israel’s their vital gas supply from Egypt; trying to terrorize and punish Israel and cursing them. Now? Israel are also sitting on a massive supply of oil from shale!!! IOW Israel is energy independent!!! THAT is GOOD news!!! So, to hell with foreboding and fear of the future; we should be rejoicing in the streets alongside Israel, because we DO have a future, and it includes constitutional fidelity and a return to the values expressed in it. Therefore:
“These are the most promising times in my 55 years. The reelection of Barack Obama has released a surge of rare honesty among the Left about its intentions, coupled with a sense of triumphalism that the country is now on board for still greater redistributionist change. Boy, are they in for a surprise!!!”
Amen!
I stopped reading right here:
“…the only one that makes history is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.”
Pull your head out of your ass and wake up already. Reality is staring you in the face and you’re checking the scripture for pointers. It’s one of the many reasons conservatism is doomed: an inability to reason directly in the real world, deferring instead to the sky wizard and his contradictory tome written by multiple authors over several hundred years. Our small government reasoning stands on its own, you diminish it by citing poorly-written fiction.
Obviously it’s so poorly written that people still find inspiration in it! Perhaps you’d prefer more modern stuff like Das Kapital or Mein Kampf, which have inspired others.
Actually the Federalist Papers (and Anti-Federalist Papers) will suffice.
Evangelitard Gentlemen are the Achilles Heel of Republicans and Tea Partiers trying to stop the Marxists from seizing our freedoms.
Reconsider. The whole notion of history stems from the Bible. The idea that the world is made up of conscious individuals defining the meaning of their lives in relation to the forces that endendered them is first expressed in the story of Abraham. Before that, there were only the endless cyclical wheels of creation and destruction by remote and capricious gods.
Oy vey, hava nagilah. Israel energy independent.
Somebody wake me when they no longer take US aid. Oh, wait… that will never happen.
e (I mean ‘Murka) ought to be more like Israel in some regards. Enforce the borders and deport the Hominids.
I do not mean Operation Cast Lead against the Canuckistan. The Canucks are wealthier than us’Murkans.
“There is scant political appreciation that the materialist Marxist argument — that justice is found only through making sure that everyone has the same slice of stuff from the zero-sum pie — was supposed to end up on the ash heap of history.”
You would think that after the fall of the Soviet Union, the “westernization” of China through manufacturing, and the financial collapse of European social-welfare states like Greece, Spain, Italy Portugal, and Ireland (among others), that the liberals in this country would be convinced that socialism, let alone communism, just doesn’t work. As Margaret Thatcher once said, you eventually run out of other people’s money. But no, liberals in this country act as if the above events never happened.
So why do they act this way? Because liberals and socialists are still determined to prove that socialism works, regardless of whether or not it destroys this country. They always make believe that the Soviets, the Europeans, or the Chinese simply didn’t do it “right” and that’s why it didn’t work in their countries. Oh no, the big liberal “brains” in this country, most of which come from an academia that has never produced anything but illiterate graduates, can certainly guide this nation to a utopian socialist state that the left has been yearning for.
Sure, and how did that work out for us with the “stimulus,” when all those Harvard economists said that our unemployment rate would never go up over 8% and that the “stimulus” would turn around our economy? That really was a “magical” experience, wasn’t it? And what did it do for us? It just drove us $1 TRILLION more in debt. And that’s the “new normal” now, being trillions (with a “T”) in debt. Forget about those pesky billions. No, a trillion is the way to go now. The amount of debt that used to be considered “inconceivable” is now the “new normal” for generations to come.
But what happens when we DO become Greece? What happens when nobody loans us anymore money, or the cost of borrowing money becomes so expensive that we can’t afford it anymore? Either we end up printing more money and it becomes worthless, or we have to make massive spending cuts like they did in places like Greece and Spain. And how did that work out for them? It shattered their economies, gave them massive unemployment, massive social unrest, sky-high taxes, chronic low economic growth, and a military that’s a joke to the rest of the world. Is that our future? Is that what we have to look forward to?
I’m not going to kid you, gang. I’m scared. This country is headed for really bad times and the “cherry on the top” will be if a liberal Congress decides to enact massive gun control and disarm the American public. This has been a wet dream of the left for generations, simply because it would finally trash what’s left of the Constitution and it would allow the Federal Government to do literally anything it wanted to without the fear of an armed public having the final say in the matter. Don’t think this could ever happen in America? There are calls right now for massive gun control legislation, and if Congress somehow follows through on this, there could literally be a insurrection in this country. And you don’t have to take my word for it. Try disarming everybody in, say, Texas or Oklahoma. I’d really like to see that.
We live in dangerous times, my friends, and the next year has all the potential of being one of the most dangerous, especially when it comes to spending and gun control. How will it turn out? I don’t know, but what I do know is that if this liberal president keeps wandering down this socialist path and decides to continue transforming this country into a European-style social-welfare state, it will not end well. Always remember that the patriots during the American Revolution were always in the minorty, and yet they still won.
Huummmm….”disarm everyone in Texas and Oklahoma.” Just who would do that? Your local, friendly, elected County Sheriff? I don’t think so. Somehow I can’t see Sheriff “Bates” and deputies trying to take weapons from Jim-bob and John-boy. On the other hand, I can see the Sheriff and his deputies working with Jim-bob and John-boy to stop the Feds, even the Army should it come to that. Although the military would probably divide something like 60-40 for the Government, that leaves a lot of people willing to fight to maintain the Constitution.
We certainly don’t want it to come to that; but were it so, I think that once federal troops crossed borders into our beloved Texas, they’d likely break 90/10 in favor of freedom.
They’ll break 90/10 for doing what their officers order; don’t fool yourself that just because a 19 yr. old is wearing ACUs and carrying a gun he knows any more about the Constitution and US history than does one wearing baggy pants and a hoodie.
That maybe true if there is actual real currency to pay the troops.
The Left will be in for a nasty surprise if they try to use a bankrupt government to seize guns from citizens. Militaries don’t fight for free. And they most certainly won’t violate their own oaths without getting paid.
We have to be very careful here. The U.S. Military has a very strong tradition of not acting on U.S. soil, stemming from – among other things – the Civil War. It would be very difficult to get them to do so. Also, remember it’s not the 19 year old in ACU’s that would be the issue, it’s his lieutenant, and they are fairly well educated in such things.
Rather, it’s Obama’s non-military “civil defense force”, probably the TSA and the implementation arms of the EPA, etc. that we have to worry about. Remember, Hitler didn’t use the German Army for his initial work, it was the brownshirts.
And don’t forget the hundreds of millions of rounds recently purchased by all federal law enforcement agencies. For what purpose?
google: ‘The Plain Truth. The next American Revolution’ for a paper showing how the numbers should break down. Includes an old poll of active duty military on whether or not they’d follow orders to fire on American citizens.
Historically, with 2% – 3% of the population actively involved in the resistence, w/ another 30% to 35% actively supporting them, the insurgents never lose. Throw in some foreign aid for the insurgents and things look even better.
Don’t kid yourself. They’d mow us down just like our own cops do everyday.
They won’t mow people down for free.
The plan will bring troops from the east and west coasts to pacify the center of the country, it’s a tactic that despots have used throughout history. No Texan will fight to disarm another Texan… but someone from Maine or Washington (or Illinois) might.
Oh my dinkum word: Progressive illusions about the US military _here_ ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Uniformed_Services_Oath_of_Office
If it ever reaches the point that the states start seceding from the Union, you will see Obama send Federal Marshals, to arrest the governors of those states. The question is, will the state and local police agencies stand against the federal LEOs, or will they allow the feds to arrest our elected state representatives. If it comes down to opening fire on the feds, will they do so, because I have no doubts the feds will open fire on state law enforcement.
Lincoln essentially arrested the government of Maryland to prevent Maryland’s secession. One of Lee’s objectives in the first campaign into the North was to pull Yankee troops away to Pennsylvania so that Maryland’s Legislature could secede and join the Confederacy, leaving DC inside the Confederacy. Harry Turtledove in “How Few Remain” goes through the evolution had Lee’s General Order 181 not fallen into Yankee hands.
The Soros Junta isn’t going to let a state or group of states secede and they’ll do what is necessary to prevent it. Instead of crazy talk about secession, we should be pressuring the governments we control to make life more interesting for federal employees in our states and for Democrat front groups operating in our states. Most federal money coming into our states is simply being laundered from the Treasury to Democrat constituencies and front groups. We don’t have to take the money, but if we can’t resist taking it, e.g., Medicare/Medicaid, UI, then we can make life a living Hell for the contractors and grantees that receive federal funds. Very little federal money goes directly to end recipients; it goes to the states, which then appropriate and spend it. The states can and should audit the grantees and contractors but rarely do and even more rarely do so effectively. Frankly, anybody who handles public funds takes his/her freemom into his/her hands every time a federal report gets signed; the rules are so arcane and vague that anything you do violates something, so you’re at the mercy of the auditors. Of course, if we cut off some union’s “training” grant, then the guy that runs it will drop a dime and the feds will come visit the state fund manager that cut him off; that’s a war we can fight because those line level feds don’t want to go to some state jail on Comrade Obama’s behalf, so it won’t be long before the fed has some severe morale and performance issues. I’m up for it!
Don’t forget the UN blue hats he will bring in to back himself.
Will those Bluehats be more effective than they’ve been every elswhere?
I agree it’s possible to see UN troops on American soil, only these would not be peace-keepers, these would be enforcers. It really wouldn’t surprise me. Perhaps they would be wearing red hats instead of blue.
Really? I wasn’t aware that the military kept its recruits stratified by region. Certainly, of the officers and enlisted personnel I know from here, they’ve been sent all around the country for training and deployment.
But on the other hand, the 2nd Regiment, Northeastern Fighting Metrosexuals probably could take Texas all on their own–the defenders would be laughing themselves to death!
SRBON(Snort Root Beer Out Nose). Thanks for the laugh!
Washingtonians will invade Texas only if they are assured there are plenty of Starbuck’s coffee shops there.
I’m already working on invasion plans to liberate the US from the coasts.
The resistance will not take the form of an armed revolt by the states. Instead, expect millions of Americans including state and local officials to drag their feet in complying with federal law. In addition, the people of the United States will continue to sort themselves into regions with different attitudes regarding the relative strength of government and the individual. Federal law enforcement will try to make an example of a few individuals, but that will simply encourage more of the economy to exist outside of the law. Over time the “ungovernable” people will group together and create new institutions and products that work around the things the federal government screws up. Think of how radar detectors made the 55mph speed limit much less relevant and how wireless brought competition to phone service in spite of corrupt landline regulation.
“Federal law enforcement will try to make an example of a few individuals, but that will simply encourage more of the economy to exist outside of the law.”
Every time the feds do that, the right piles on, agreeing with the MSM and the fed that whoever was involved had to be a criminal nutcase… then, you go back to saying how much you have the MSM and complain about how much they lie to ya.
The last memorable occasion was Walt Fitzpatrick and a couple of acquaintances of his.
Plus, we have SWAT team no-knock raids killing or wounding approx. 300 innocent Americans each and every year. iow, we now have a Waco or Ruby Ridge type of event ech and every week, on average. …with SWAT tems raids dragging thousands of people out of their beds at night each and every year. Most of those ‘warrants’ are for non-violent offenses. But…you agree with the MSM and the feds that those are all accidents that can happen to anyone, when arresting criminal nutcases.
One of these days, you’ll be the ‘criminal nutcase’ in question…and people on the right will pile on, agreeing with the MSM and the feds… and after the right piles on you, the right will turn right around and claim that they don’t trust the feds or the MSM…
(Note: I’m not a lefty. I’m a realist and a Jeffersonian Democrat.)
“Realist” = pessimist.
The line in the sand for the feds will be when a state governor tells their constituency “you don’t have to pay federal income taxes anymore, they don’t represent you”. And throws every fed out of the state physically. I wish my governor had the nads. WE don’t need the feds for anything in Arizona. NOTHING. WE can certainly cover the border better then they are.
Or, when a state refuses to turn over the money collected for Fed taxes from the state and keeps it within the state. One of the penalties they’ve been talking about for refusing an excahnge, for example, is for the Feds not to fund hospitals. What if some angry governor simply kept the fed tax money and sent it to the hospitals in his or her state? Or spent it directly on the fed highways? Or any other formerly fed project that the feds are refusing to fund for punitive reasons?
Dead-on as usual, Libertyship, but you left out one important element: e.g., WHY our betters are determined to foist socialism on us regardless of its terrible track record. It’s not because they believe that they’re smart enough to make it work THIS time. They’re smarter than that, have eyes to see, and even know some history; they KNOW it won’t work to produce peace and prosperity for all.
But don’t make the mistake of thinking that they want that! The advertised benefits of socialism are exactly what they DON’T want. The actual goal is control – and control concentrated in their hands. It’s obvious. They want peace, prosperity, and power FOR THEMSELVES and their children in perpetuity. Socialism is only the mechanism for the return of blood aristocracy. They know it, and it’s about time the rest of the general public learned it…
It is the rare country that is so impoverished that its leaders don’t live like kings. As long as it is so, the rulers will care little for the fortunes of the masses.
But I will make one tiny concession to the planners, managers, and controllers: Animal Farm should be required reading for everyone above the age of 12 in this country.
I read recently that the ruling elite in China numbers between 200 and 300 people who are all descendents of Mao and his elite contemporaries. The current elite will certainly entrench their offspring in the ruling class. They have created a Chinese dynasty, as in days of old.
They dont even eff around with lessor titles anymore in China, They are starting to call them princes openly in the news.
“if this liberal president keeps wandering down this socialist path and decides to continue transforming this country into a European-style social-welfare state”
Earth to Liberty! We already ARE a “European-style-social-welfare state,” have been for decades and decades. How do you think all your tea party friends buy their Lipitor, motorized wheelchair, and diabetes medicine?
I currently buy mine with insurance–no Mediscare or Medifraud.
Employer based health insurance … until such time as Obamacare robs me of that. Then, we don’t know how we’ll be able to pay 10% of my husband’s base salary for the “minimum” acceptable insurance under Obamacare. Gee, so much for making it “affordable.” I’m not old enough for Medicare, and by the time I am, this country will be bankrupt.
“You would think that after the fall of the Soviet Union, the “westernization” of China through manufacturing, and the financial collapse of European social-welfare states like Greece, Spain, Italy Portugal, and Ireland (among others), that the liberals in this country would be convinced that socialism, let alone communism, just doesn’t work. As Margaret Thatcher once said, you eventually run out of other people’s money. But no, liberals in this country act as if the above events never happened.”
Progressives do not care about history or the USA…they simply want power. We are heading for a real cliff I fear.
Progressives do not care about history or the USA…they simply want power.
Now ask yourself, “The power to do what?” You won’t enjoy the answer to that question. History is my witness.
Our new Sheriff Wilmot is “John Boy or Joe Bob”. He will be the one to rally all of us in AZ right next to Sheriff Joe.
I really don’t think any kind of civil war is necessary in order to get away from the progressives. The legal method would be far more affective. Sometimes I think people start dreaming up big wars in order to make what needs to be done seem like a last desperate life-or-death measure in order to be able to kick the can down the road. Or to use the necessity of somebody else’s despicable action in order to get things going because they lack the guts to do it for themselves. As in, “Just you wait, when they come to take my guns there’s going to be war!”
People, succession does not require gunfire. Mostly, it just requires the will . . . and, of course, lawyers. Waiting for “the big event” only ensures that the world we end up inheriting after the utopians have their way (again) is poor, sick, and a dysfunctional mess. Getting out now may or may not seem rash or too early, but it sure beats having to deal with the catastrophe to come.
BTW. For those who missed it, a pretty good article on succession was linked in one of the articles from yesterday. I suggest you all read it:
http://1389blog.com/2012/12/31/how-patriotism-becomes-idolatry-and-why-secession-is-the-only-answer/
The Left’s two-step has become as clear as that of Islam:
1. Make irresponsible demands with its “public” arm (i.e., its elected officials), on whatever grounds are tactically useful, while the “private” arm (i.e., “journalists,” unions, academics, professional agitators) foretells or threatens all sorts of mayhem if those demands aren’t met.
2. Once the demands are met in part, the “public” arm declares victory and crows about having fulfilled some illusory “right” or having met “the needs of the people,” while the “private” arm advances new demands and heaps opprobrium on the Right for “standing in the way of history.”
Now that “scholars” are proposing to do away with the Constitution, it is no longer possible for a rational man to believe that the Left will be satisfied with anything less than permanent totalitarian power. The “revolutionary technique” first deployed by FDR (cf. Garet Garrett’s “The Revolution Was”) has matured fully and reached its end stage. Whether it has seduced a sufficient fraction of Americans to win through remains to be seen.
Thank you, Prof. Hanson, for reading the Seidman piece so I didn’t have to. Even filtered through you, it was beyond shocking. This little dream-tyrant has been “teaching” the Constitution for 40 years, and calls it “a poetic piece of parchment”? Has he even READ the thing once? “Poetic,” especially by the standards of its time, is about as far off the mark as you can get, but it IS the default judgment of hypermodern morons when faced with styles of the past – any and all of them.
The question I have about these dreamers of social control and perfect freedom only for “those who are smart enough to handle it” is: Don’t any of them realize that, once on the table, these tools – weapons, rather – can be picked up and used by The Other Side as well? That if might makes right, one day their opponents just may get mightier than they? Why does this possibility never occur to them, when change is the one constant of life?
P.S.: Your little section on John B. Judis contains the most apropos typo possible – and twice, yet! Or was it not a typo? I’d prefer that it was…
I caught that too, and wondered if it was an error or on purpose.
Me three!
In over twenty years of dealing with Alinksky disciple lefties, I never met one that gave a scintilla of thought to what the other guy might do or even acknowledged that the opposition was capable of thinking and planning. It is a real asset to understand this if you have to deal with them, as we all do now. All you have to do to defeat a lefty plan is not do what they expect you to do. Most of the “Rules” based agitation is designed to get otherwise sane people to do something irrational and preferably violent; all you gotta’ do is not do it. The way to defeat them is to not rise to them and cause them to do ever crazier things to try to get you to rise to them. As they do that they shed the support of the sane among their followers and their support among the uninvolved or neutral in the oommunity. Then, when they do something stupid and violent themselves, you smash some of them. Unfortunately, you have to smash the mindless followers rather than the leaders; the leaders always have another union or front group or some fellow traveller to go work for so you have to fire or jail the useful idiots, smash some heads if you can get away with it, to show the rest of the followers that there is a price. The other side of it is that if you aren’t positioned to make smoke and noise and break things and hurt people, you leave them alone until you can. The worst thing you can do is merely TRY to hurt them.
A good, sorta kinda case-in-point there, is Occupy.
Breitbart was a master at using Alinsky tactics against the Left. It caught them off guard. Using gentleman tactics is a losing strategy.
The Leftists like this “Constitution Scholar” twist language again. The Constitution isn’t poetic, it’s written in plain English. Congress shall pass no law… Means what it says.
This debt will take generations to pay off. Even if our productivity ascends to new highs, we do not have the population growth to pay off these debts. Nobody does.
The only thing saving us right now is that our economy and government spending is the worst in the world, except for all the others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_emergency_power
Repeal _all_ the IP law for the duration of the world economic emergency and
watch the 21st century Hi-Tech capital goods manufacturing section produce
the new wealth the world needs to avoid falling back into barbarism.
The left already has an “answer” for that. Look up “platinum coin seigniorage”. They may very well try something along these lines, and claim credit for “paying off the debt” to boot.
Don’t worry, the advocates of Modern Monetary Theory say. It won’t be inflationary, and it will be the solution to problems many and diverse.
If history is any guide then in a few years the GOP/conservatives will again be in control of Washington and the Democrats/progressives will suddenly remember how much they like the Constitution and the rule of law.
It wasn’t that long ago that the left despised the idea of a unitary executive and praised the filibuster as an essential check on the power of the majority.
GOP, perhaps. Conservatives, unlikely.
The GOP leadership is almost indistinguishable from the Democratic lot. They are part of what Codevila refers to as the “ruling class”, “limousine liberals” who have more in common with their Democratic opposite numbers than they do with their own constituents.
The GOP leadership blamed the Tea Party for Romney’s loss, not because they were responsible, but because it was a convenient excuse to purge them from the Party’s upper echelons with almost Stalinist ferocity. They have no intention of listening to anyone who dares to say that they can’t tax and spend like… Democrats.
As for gun control, if you think the bodyguarded leaders of the Republicans like an armed citizenry any better than the Democrats do, you’ve never read that “conservative” icon, Robert Bork, or the other supposed one, Richard Nixon. Both were fanatically devoted to disarming the American people, “for their own good”, and said that since the Second Amendment was in the way, if it couldn’t be repealed, it should simply be ignored. They were joined in this by none other than “conservative” columnist, Pat Buchanan.
The ruling class goes to the same schools, has the same attitudes, and universally views everyone not of their class as stupid, bigoted, dangerous, and crazy. Party affiliations are only relevant insofar as to whom they lie to get votes.
The Republicans are absolutely willing to be the “junior partners” in a de facto single-party state, as long as they get paid for it.
As for the rest of us, so far our only real protection has been that they are not nearly as intelligent as they believe themselves to be. This is why their grand plans tend to blow up in their faces; they always have a “Plan A”, but never a “Plan B”.
On the other hand, in Dilbert, Scott Adams once observed that there is nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot.
Of which there are many inside the Beltway. In both parties.
clear ether
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Where does Victor Davis Hanson actually refute Seidman’s argument against the Constitution? I have an inkling of what a proper counterargument would look like, but Hanson doesn’t even try.
No, Hanson has Seidman pegged. The essence of Seidman’s belief is in a government of our betters, with himself and other leftists as the magisterium of this secular church — one which rejects the ideas of objective truth and unchanging human nature, and which holds no articles of faith except those it tactically chooses to proclaim for the moment.
Which things did the “dead white men” get right, and which wrong? The great civil rights struggles of the past appealed to Christian truth (for what else can “created equal” mean, anyway?) as a benchmark by which to judge the law; Seidman would replace that with the will of the mob. He aims to replace the American Revolution with the French.
It is like he is trying to replace the Constitution with Medieval Feudalism with us as the serfs and people like him as the nobility (with knight retainers surrounding them).
I was referring to Lord Seidman… err, Professor Seidman.
Considering that Seidman’s “argument” is that the Constitution was written by “white men” and doesn’t let Obama run a totalitarian dictatorship, all that was needed to rebut it was to state it.
Unless you *WANT* to live in a totalitarian state. In which case, leave.
If he needs to refute it for you then you won’t understand what he is saying anyway …
Read The Federalist Papers, they speak for themselves.
of what a proper counterargument would look like . . .”
and in plain sight, too, with your head up your ass
and kiss His ass
Obama is King
wash Her feet
and kiss Her ass
Obama is Queen
of course
Boehner’s on the job, either way
taking it, or giving it?
most likely
besides being axiomatically inane — and really, he’s just writing to shock, he doesn’t sound serious — seidman also refutes his own argument by concluding that “entrenched institutions,” “habits of thought,” and “the sense that we are one nation” are what keeps us together, not the constitution. just what entrenched those institutions, inculcated those habits of thought, and maintains us as one nation? oh yes, it’s that piece of parchment seidman pretends to disdain.
vdh is a cure for contemporary ailments. THANKS for yet another great column, and a good antidote to a still-young 2013.
Exactly my thought (i.e. What about the cause of such things). But like so much for the irrational, such things come from magic — miracles from Seidman’s god-men who view life in episodes not as epic. I can’t wait for the Obama mini-series to conclude. But what to do about his “network(s)” (that keep promoting the same old tired reruns)?
“There is no historical appreciation among the new progressive technocracy that central state planning, whether the toxic communist brand or supposedly benevolent socialism, has only left millions of corpses in its wake, or abject poverty and misery.”
There is seemingly no understanding among the arrogant progressive technocracy that tens of millions of us have no desire to go where they want to drag us and that we will fight back. With force if necessary. I am beyond disgusted with the Left and the forced march toward collectivism they have us on. I do not work to have my income redistributed. What’s mine is mine.
All is not lost, when you describe a hot stove the ill-informed may not understand, they are about to get burned. The last four years we have been describing a hot stove now the diminished paycheck and out of control inflation is on the doorstep.
In the cowboy pictures of the 1950′s, the good guys and bad guys were as easy to spot as one’s ability to distinguish black hats from white, white horses from black.
The good guys were hired by the Bar 20 ranch while the bad guys wore moustaches and worked for Black Bart. When injustice reared it ugly head, Hoppy would say, “that comes under the heading of my business”
Well, lately, it’s reminded me of back then. I mean, the way, number 10, TURFMAN explains it; with the bad guys and good guys being so easy to spot.
“Every action, every action, of this administration is predicated upon maximum harm to the economy, politics, morals and Judeo-Christian ethics that undergird this Republic and its society.”
Which is bad.
This makes Obama and his henchmen, in the eyes of Americans, the bad guys. It’s as obvious that Obama wants to bring down Constitutional America as the nose in the old movies on Jimmy Durante’s face.
But the majority of voters in America, (regardless of the million s of stolen votes)the leftist Obama vote reminds me of the population of Germany during the Hitler free for all; night of the long knives and such. A populace who swore they could’t smell the smoke of burning bodies following their Ledo to death and destruction.
My huge thorny question of today:
Are the believers in the Constitution like Dr. Hanson up to the charge embedded in Turfman’s words?
“I think that is why you’re not seeing crowds upon the National Mall like you did during the Tea Party rallies – its the calm before the storm.
“They realize that the next step is resorting to the inspiration left to us in the Declaration of Independence and the instructions in the Bill of Rights. Our Founding Fathers were right in the days of the quill pen, in the days of the musket, the cannon ball, the sword; they are right today in the days of the internet.”
Are we up to the job of dissolving the corrupt Obama government? Do we plan a ten million man march on Washington to remove the evil regime? Or do the pieces in the totalitanian puzzle have to be removed one by one? Obama has a plan. Maybe the rest of us should have one, too.
Was the incompetent, oppressively dumb Chicago Bears coach, Lovie Smith, fired because he was a bad coach? I don’t think so. I think he was fired because he “did a commercial that said, “I have Obama’s back.” What a stupid thing to do. I think the Bears owners decided to run Lovie out of town the day that spot first ran.
Obama naturally called the firing of Smith racist. Which comes as no surprise. Everything Obama does is racist. Or anti-American. Every move Obama makes is designed to remove another brick from the a nation built on beliefs that ended up freeing the 1940′s world from chains.
Will American patriots take the easier way out and secede from the union state by state?
I would prefer we remain the United States and force the secession of Obama.
What did Benito Mussolini and Clara Petacci have in common with Michelle and Barack? At first glance, nothing.
Naw, easy… left/liberals are either evil or deluded, take time to figure out which each such individual is if you wish.
Obama naturally called the firing of Smith racist.
Link?
The diehard liberal commenters at the new ownership (very important change in ownership) The New Republic think Obama is a RINO, too center right.
anyway, the first tnr blogpost after the election was about amending the Constitution so that Obama can get his third term, which is how long it will take for Obama to patiently explain his transformation to the simpletons, umm, voters.
I think my comment on that thread was to stop being silly because it will be Michele Obama who runs for that third term.
The NYT Seidman editorial conveniently did not allow comments. Free speech for me, not for thee.
You would think a law professor wouldn’t hang his argument on a complete inability to understand history.
“…is not a poetic piece of parchment, but entrenched institutions and habits of thought and, most important, the sense that we are one nation and must work out our differences.”
Where, pray tell, did these “entrenched institutions and habits of thought” come from? How did we arrive at “the sense that we are one nation”? Might they not be a derived from that “poetic piece of parchment”? Might that parchment be the very foundation, i.e., historical root, that drives us to work together?
Sadly, this inability to see what formed the “informal, cultural rules” seems to be the new norm in academia. Yes, private and even government predation is restrained by “informal, cultural rules”, but those rules are derived from the formal mechanisms that stand ready should the “informal, cultural rules” fail. Nor do the new academics seem to be able to comprehend that it all rests upon that “poetic piece of parchment”.
Or the more likely answer, that “poetic piece of parchment” so they seek to shred it.
Why do I think Victor Davis Hanson is a man besotted with the cleverness of his own rhetoric? I dunno. Maybe because I cannot understand what VDH is whining about. In my humble experience 90% of Americans would not have a clue what a phrase like “coerced socialism” meant. As for the evils of historic communism, well that was on another planet far away. Wasn’t it? Cuba? Isn’t Che cool or something? What’s hard to understand? America voted for a cool guy and for what they think he vaguely promised them, and they feel good about it. Obamma’s job approval rating has risen, not declined. Right? The Republicans are in fact, not in metaphor, a despicable, incompetant, snivelling rabble as keen to line the pockets of their own cronies as are the Democrats. Bi-partisan approval for tax cuts for Hollywood? Are you kidding me? Don’t you get it VDH? Most Americans do not want the America you fantasize about! They want the flim-flam world promised by the flim-flam man. If that means the US goes to hell in a handbasket, well then, that is what they want, or at least a consequence of what they want. So give it to them. Give them what they want, they’ll love it when it arrives. Or do you VDH think that democracy means that only good rational outcomes are produced for all?
Actually a big part of the stupidity of the Republicans is that they want to protect Americans from the consequences of their own decisions. As if there is no downside (eg recession, poverty, bankruptcy) to the democratic process. As if Americans should not suffer the consequences of their own greed and foolishness. This big mistake makes Republicans complicit in the whole scam. Makes them look weak and venal. Big mistake. Why? Because there is a downside!
You spend a lot of time praising yourself, don’t you, “kkk”?
Oh, I think kkk has it about right
Nailed it!
Not to harp on the words, but i have naively believed that recessions poverty inflation etcetera were the byproducts of fiat currency and deficit spending. Now thanks to gkkk i have understood that they are the products of democracy.
This is from an earlier VDH post and deserves repeating…
“Unfortunately, the reality of socialist/communist countries never lives up to their utopian ideal. Instead of admitting that Marx was wrong, the intellectuals suggest that it would work “if only the ‘right people’ are in charge” (meaning themselves, of course).”
Comment by Larry J
I’d like to add that I believe there’s another factor at work that drives so many self-proclaimed “intellectuals” towards Marxism and that is envy. They see people who they consider their inferiors being more successful in life and it frustrates them. After all, someone who creates a business and becomes wealthy is a mere businessman. In most cases, he doesn’t have advanced degrees like the “intellectuals” so obviously he’s their inferior. Why then does the businessman become wealthy and the intellectuals don’t? Under Marxism, the “intellectuals” believe they’ll rise to their true place in society and those awful businessmen will be put in their place, be it a forced labor camp or in front of a firing squad.
What galls the “intellectuals” the most is likely the realization that society doesn’t put much value on their knowledge and in fact considers most of it worthless. They clump in government and academia through their connections but know deep down that if they had to make a living in the real world, they’d fail miserably.
“They clump in government and academia through their connections but know deep down that if they had to make a living in the real world, they’d fail miserably.”
Pan-handling and dumpster diving from those they despise the most. Fear is a great motivator.
A friend who left the military, worked in the private sector and landed a fed job in DC told me, “Those employees who never worked outside of govt. would all be dead if they had to work on the outside.” That I believe.
““Those employees who never worked outside of govt. would all be dead if they had to work on the outside.””
That’s certainly true of some, probably most of those that went straight from school to working for government. The best run governments are at best a 90/10 proposition with 90% of the work being done by 10% of the employees. The federal government isn’t even that efficient. Unfortunately, some of the apparatchik-level ones, those just below appointees and some long-time appointees, are both ruthless and efficient. Governments have “hot” work units here and there that can do the heavy lifting when an administration needs something actually done. Most of government just exists to spend money and give people jobs and nobody tries to do anything particularly well or efficiently, but there are those who can when need be.
There was an America which jettisoned the foundational American code and created its own document of constitution. It was called Jonestown. Set up by Harvey Milk’s buddy. Endorsed by Walter Mondale. Ended horribly. Children first and no lessons learnt.
True-believer leftists have a death wish, they can’t quite suppress the urge to give in to it. Simple as that. Their eliminationist rhetoric is projection of what they want to do to themselves projected onto others. They crave the deadly enslaving kiss of the vampire. Zombie existence fascinates them. Life, and the thinking human life requires, is a burden to them.
Ayn Rand called ‘em on it and the truth drives ‘em into screaming fits at the mere mention of her name.
It really does seem that way doesn’t it? Their whole doctrine was mere dismantling for the sake of it. Reactionary and psychologically violent deconstructions of phallocentric archaisms transgressive to liberate the homogonously didactic fructosismcentric. Cruel and nasty smash it cause I didn’t build it. Now, however, after a century of f-ups they found a doctrine in basic math. It’s called diversity, a divine division, another paradox that they subjugate to yukky scientific thought, even if at potty training grade. For now they only have enough power to enact open scorn and ostracism with relatively minor penalty. Bloodthirsty, obviously so.
Well said. Its hard to believe there’s a Constitutional law professor who hates the Constitution, teaching classes at some law school. What is he teaching?
The rest of it is very scary – redistribution is going to anger the white working class and eventually, I suspect, the actual middle class will start hitting back. If somebody on food stamps, wellfare and Medicare has all the same “stuff” that I have, yet works 100% less than I do, why should I continue working ? Or at the very least, why should I continue working in the United States and pay taxes into the system.
I had a very heated argument with a good friend (who is, unfortunately, a flaming liberal) about secession – while I don’t take it too seriously, I was trying to explain to my friend that people are talking secession because there does not appear to be any other option for getting out from underneath this monstrosity that the Federal government has become. There’s no where for people to go who want to pay less in taxes and receive less in “services”. There’s no where for people to go, who are sick of the parasites who refuse to work and instead, vote for more stuff for themselves. I’m open to suggestions.
Why is he teaching? Because he’s a deluded left/liberal bonehead like the folk who hired him and think… well, maybe they don’t.
Seidman’s home phone number and address are in the D.C. Whitepages.
opensecrets.org revealed that he was a big donor to Obama in 2008 and 2012.
Big surpise, that!
Yes, I’m shocked! Shocked to hear he’s a donor! (props to Claude Rains).
“we ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage”
Memos for Professor Seidman:
1. It’s not a good thing to extricate oneself from constitutional bondage because it also gives your enemies carte blanche to do the same.
2. And that means they’ll also have extricated themselves from any archaic notion of mercy when they come for you.
Hmm, “Constitutional bondage”? Personal reponsibility of freedom and not having tyranny to run your life is SOOOO oppressive, you know.
Dr. Hanson & PJ Media colleagues:
Please also read: “The Socialist Mind Game: A Brief Manual” by Oleg Atbashian via American Thinker. This essay incorporates tactical thinking as to how these folks operate. And you can see similar tactics and rhetoric exhibited by BHO the administration and campaign.
The more BHO claims he is not a Socialist, the more it’s clear he is a modern variety, steeped in the Chicago political dogma and representing real danger to our Constitutional Republic.
Happy New Year!
I’m sorry to say, with true sadness… I want a divorce.
There is no living with leftists. There is treason and there is traitorism…and then there is leftism.
Tyranny, treason and traitorism…the Three T’s of Leftism abound now in my country and they are inextricably woven into our culture. We are now left with three options. 1)surrender; 2)civil war; 3)separation.
Because we are too timid, perhaps to put it generously, by nature we are respectful, more reserved, less prone to slimy tactics, generally believe in silly concepts like honesty, integrity, loyalty, devotion to country, …and therefore we don’t fight dirty nearly as well or as often as leftists…who have made it an art form. We have lost our information stream to liars, our news gathering and sharing to propagandists and slanderers, our entertainment to people who want to spit on the country and our academia to revisionist operatives of enemies of state.
Fighting people who are rules-breakers by nature…with an army of rules-followers, is a bad setup to begin with, but it is REALLY made worse when the refs and umpires (media, Hollywood, academia and all other manner of information stream and water cooler toxic polluters) are rigging the outcome.
We live and die by our code of ethics, but we fight against an enemy who doesn’t have any. That polity doesn’t work against dirty fighting. We can’t and won’t win unless and until we all recognize the same thing. Balancing our honor with the lack of our enemies’…is our final clarion call to save this land of ours…if not for ourselves, then for our children.
I no longer hold out…at the age of 59…ANY hope that we can convince the “culture” to un-brainwash itself. Nor do I hold out ANY hope that the Republican Party, the Washington Generals of politics, can somehow find the courage, skill, fortitude and strategic brilliance it would take to actually provide a voice for us who oppose the vile and despicable tyranny of leftism.
As much as I might like to fight on, even to confront the despicable traitors of the left and their violent fantasies…I cannot bring myself to advocate civil war and bloodshed.
That leaves surrender or separation.
That is a Hobson’s Choice of epic proportions. North Korea is separated from South Korea. North Vietnam separate from South Vietnam. I think we should divide the country and let each side take it in the direction that are clearly completely different paths, living side by side in peace…but with very different notions of fidelity, loyalty, honor and integrity.
Now…is the hour of our divorce. Let’s do it amicably.
For the children.
“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed.”
Bad idea. Two questions that you must consider:
1) When would the subdivision stop? Succession (being a breed of utopianism) would not solve the problems, eventually we’d end up with 50 or more separate countries and look like Europe of the 1900′s. Do you really want to have to produce a passport to visit your relatives in Chicago?
2) Who gets the nukes?
“Who gets the nukes?”
Anyone who tries to secede. At the rate of one city glassed per hour, until they surrender.
Progressives believe only they are allowed to be revolutionaries. For their definition of how to deal with anyone who dares to revolt against them, look up “French Revolution”, “Directory”, and “the Terror”.
To them, any resistance to their superior consciousness must be dealt with by methods extreme enough to frighten everyone else into not even thinking about it in future (Orwell’s “thoughtcrime”).
And for the next four years at least, they have the “football”.
clear ether
eon
Awesome, time to secede. Nuke the cities, do America a favor.
I would take a few rads to see Chicago, New York, Boston, Seattle.. vaporized. Sometimes radiation is the best treatment for cancer.
This Right Wing octogenarian thinks that your smirking snarkism, “Sometimes radiation is the best treatment for cancer”,…. is an adolescent obscenity.
Being all of a very impressionable fourteen years old when Nagasaki and Hiroshima were leveled gives me a bit of perspective. Couldn’t believe that one “atomic bomb” could do that to each of them. I remember still the awful newsreels, we called then then, at the movie theaters. Also, visited Nagasaki and that museum in 1957 while on USAF active duty near there.
The left wing [caps. omitted] corollary is the 53% who voted for Obama as an adolescent surrogate “cool man” neighborhood “leader”. We simply must raise the voting age to 29 and also return to a literacy test for issuing a voting card. We’ve reached the 21st cent version of mob rule.
We should, all of us, pray for resilience.
I believe you do not mean succession, and I understand your reluctance to secede.
But your logic fails. There will not be 50 separate nation states.
A house divided against itself cannot stand. We cannot live half traitor and half patriot.
Perhaps more fundamentally…we cannot live half small c communist and half free market democracy. We are being defrauded into a political system that repels the very fundamentals of our current one. The mask is falling off in places but still remains intact on the face of small c communism that hides behind it.
The political/fiscal/governing principles behind the two systems are antithetical to each other. One must die for the other to live within the same body.
Right now, our side is dying. Through fraud, lies, slander, propaganda, brain-washing, and other devious and despicable means…but, make no mistake…we are currently on the losing side.
The violent fantasies of the vile cretins are becoming more and more open and naked. We either engage them in a war for the soul of our land…we surrender to them and go quietly or we separate and let them live out their will in half the land, while we live lives of honor in the other half.
Tyranny is at our doorstep. Sedition is within our walls. Doing nothing is surrender. Continuing to let feckless Republicans be our “defense” is a cosmic joke. Forge a new nation, sue for peace and separate seems the best of the bad options. No bloodshed, no slavery to tyranny.
And, the leftists say they don’t believe in nukes. We’ll take them off their hands.
” Forge a new nation…”
Can you explain how this can be done without bloodshed? How on earth can the small c’s be convinced to give an inch, let alone a mile or two?
bobbcat
Money. The states can begin to withhold it, the citizens can withhold it…and the states begin to assert their independence from federal tyranny.
Unless Obama and the small c communists wish to try to bring in the military…a serious problem for them, since they will not be assured of loyalty of the breed to their particular vision of brute force against their own…I would think they would be happy to be rid of us.
Frankly, it would neatly sort out what they would like to see anyway. We are generally older…rather than solve the “Ayers problem” by exterminating 25 million, we can simply move to states that already stand in opposition to their tyranny.
If the small c communists want a fight…I wouldn’t bet on the military doing their bidding if I were them.
There’s a need to secede. Let tyranny serve itself and its followers. I would like to separate from them without a drop of blood being spilled.
Something such as that, CFB, would require very strong leaders, a great number of people, resources & organization to pull off. I just don’t see how it can be done, considering the makeup of the American public in general.
bobbcat, RE: “we can simply move to states that already stand in opposition to their tyranny.” Would that it were that simple. The states themselves are part of the problem though, with the liberalism that dominates major urban areas (Seattle, for example) rendering voiceless the conservativism spread across the rest of the state.
Don’t kid yourself about nukes.
They will voluntarily give up their nukes just as soon as they voluntarily give up their power and their palaces.
One useful rule of thumb is to realize that everything they say is either a lie, or the setup for a future lie. Non-violence is the biggest lie of all.
My question is, say you become South USA, how do you prevent the same thing that happened to the USA from happening also to South USA?
After all it only takes a small number of leftists to start a decades-long gradual process of takeover of academia, the media and the rest of the culture. There will still be some leftists in South USA, and there will also be North USA agents much like you had Soviet agents and today have Muslim Brotherhood people in positions of power and influence. I don’t think most regular Americans understood what was going on in the first stages of the cultural takeover, nor realized what the far-reaching consequences might be after losing the culture war. And I don’t see the conservatives today are able to mount any effective counter-revolutionary effort. If the leftists play dirty and the conservatives are clueless most of the time, how are you going to prevent the same process from happening again in your part of the land after separation?
“Tyranny is at our doorstep.”
Please, elaborate!
Paul, the secession scenario is Texas leaves the United States when some unfunded liability of the federal government collides with strict Texas constitution limits on the ability of state government to impose new taxes to pay for it. The departure of Texas would severely unbalance the Red States/Blue States balance of power, causing a wave of other Southern, Plains, and Mountain West states to depart too. The remaining Blue States might welcome the opportunity to consolidate power and make changes the Red States keep blocking. A traditional America retrenches in the middle while the coasts become more like Canada.
That would go down the way it did the first time: The North was happy to say “let our erring sisters go” until they figured out what the loss of Customs revenue and the existence of a free trade port at the mouth of the Mississippi would do to the Northern economy. Then they decided to “suppress the rebellion.” Yeah, the lefties hate us, are contemptuous of us bitter clingers, but they’ll figure out that even they need to eat and fill their cars with gas, and then they’ll try to kill us.
I DON’T believe that was the reason the North DEFENDED itself against the South-rather, the South attacked, first, the Imago Dei with its injustice of slavery. Nothing you say can dissuade me from this-NOTHING.
@David
You need to learn to read.
It seems that David is having a conniption because some challenges the propaganda that he has swallowed.
Art – as with most who become radicalized in thought, they all tend to begin to lose touch with reality. While I found your senario interesting reading, it was constructed around major flaws.
You bring to light a central contingency of the ‘ports’ and and the mighty mississip; how they would isolated the demons of the north, east and west.
First, the mississippi doesn’t just serve, geographically, the south. It originates in the north. Port of Houston – major port. Port of New Orleans – major port. Mobile, Savannah, Charleston and ports in florida and North Carolina, not major or deep water commerce ports. On the other hand, the demon reagions you speak to have greater numbers of a major deep water and lessor commerce ports.
In your perfect senario you ignore the issue of rail. The national rail system does pretty much to the south and plains states what aviation “fly-over” does to those states.
In your pefect senario, you ignore the major piplines that carry oil and natural gas around the nation. They DO NOT ‘originate’ in the beloved plains and southern states. Likewise, the seceding states DO NOT monopolize the oil and natural gas markets in the U.S. Furthermore, your seceding states DO NOT monopolize agri production of livestock and human foodstuffs or their processing.
Push come to shove over arrogant and ignorant attitudes on behalf of your seceding states, the west, north and east could well isolate their economies.
Califanada? New Yorkanda? Oreganda? Washanada?
@Zeke -
I know all you lefties tell each other that you’re the smartest people who ever lived, but you’re an effin’ idiot. I guess whatever dumbed down credential you have didn’t include reading comprehension.
The Customs revenue and the Mississippi were the keys to the change of heart that The North had leading to the Civil War. Neither has much to do with today other than a lot of the oil you parasites in the Blue States use originates in LA and TX and is transported in pipelines that originate in Red States; don’t think we wouldn’t shut them off. In Alaska, we’d just love to sell oil on the World market rather than supply the communists in WA, OR, and CA. Oh, and then there’s the matter of food, and before you think of CA, think about where CA’s water comes from.
When the lefties and greenies were raising so much Hell about Alaska oil, we had a bumper sticker saying: “Let the Bastards Freeze in the Dark.” In the brave new world you idiot seem intent on provoking it could say, “Let the Bastards Freeze and Starve in the Dark.”
When Whatever IT is Comes, Let’s Hope it’s, well as they say aboard Firefly, Shiny.
Ballad of Serenity by Sonny Rhodes
Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don’t care, I’m still free
You can’t take the sky from me.
Take me out to the black
Tell them I ain’t comin’ back
Burn the land and boil the sea
You can’t take the sky from me.
Leave the men where they lay
They’ll never see another day
Lost my soul, lost my dream
You can’t take the sky from me.
I feel the black reaching out
I hear its song without a doubt
I still hear and I still see
That you can’t take the sky from me.
Lost my love, lost my land
Lost the last place I could stand
There’s no place I can be
Since I’ve found Serenity
And you can’t take the sky from me.
“Who gets the nukes?”
We do, silly. Progs hate guns and wars and weapons……ergo, we get them all. They also don’t like the military and the constitution……ergo, we get those, too.
Agree, csbleachers. everything east of the big river,(Missouri)to the fool hearty lib’s and everything west to the freedom loving Americans and a Chinese type great wall in between. In time we can reclaim the whole thing, they will have eaten themselves up with the dumpash any lefties left we can ship them home to the euro-morphes or whats left of it.
This is why the Tea Part movement was the liberal’s greatest fear. As was Palin.
Anyone speaking to our Constitution and liberty needed to be destroyed. But, both are still standing strong.
Liberals cannot extract the idea of freedom from our minds and bodies.
There will be a second coming. And, it won’t be pretty.
This is why the Tea Part movement was the liberal’s greatest fear. As was Palin.
Unfortunately I think you actually believe this.
Alt.Planet.You.
They don’t fear the Tea Party, Palin, or you. They don’t even think the Tea Party, Palin, and you are human. Lefty apparatchiks see anyone not allied with them as a thing, a Weberian “other.” If they feel anything at all about the “other” it is contempt. Inside that bespectacled, lank-haired, metrosexual lefty is a wannabe Strelnikov dreaming of cruising flyover country in his armored train with his brigade of Cossacks killing the bitter clingers.
Not sure “Weberian” fits your post. There is not any meritocracy within the progressive/marxist/left. I am in basic agreement though with what you are saying. And appreciate being exposed to Weberian.
Having said that. I think the left does fear the Tea Party. They know there is no proliterate to fuel their marxist revolution here. The working people here get to keep and amass what they earn if they so choose. We do not hate the wealthy as we aspire and can be them, they are in most cases us. We are the Tea Party, we are Legion, and we are well armed.
The marxist/obama/left have only isolated pockets of sub-proletariat(totally non-productive parasites) to use as cannon fodder. I am pretty sure that garbage will not propel the Politburo, or as I prefer to call them the Dictatoriate, to the heights they imagine.
The Dictatoriate think they can win all in the social dissolution they are bringing to America. They think they can maintain control of the reaction.
They are wrong, hopefully , when it is over, they are dead wrong.
***************I think the left fears the Tea Party******************
The perfect modern definition of delusion!
Also a really great tattoo for the foreheads of the tea party people.
It’s been a very long time since I read any shamanism dressed up and called sociology or psychology, but I think the notion of otherness goes to Max Weber, the German, of course, sociologist and refers to someone excluded from a group. But I may have the wrong German, they all look alike to me. You see how it applies a lot with lefties, especially if they’re concentrated together like teachers or the employeees of a social services agency. As long as someone is a part of the group, they can do no wrong. If they do something of which the group doesn’t approve, some apostasy, mere misbehavior doesn’t count, they become an “other,” not part of the group and the group turns on them viciously.
It is a good way to describe what the Nazis did to Jews and other untermenchen; they as a matter of law made them no longer human, so the protections afforded to humans no longer applied to them. If you want to make lefty professors’ heads explode get them going with a rif on how the Germans were far and away the most educated and democratic nation in the World at the time of Hitler and how virtually everything they did was done democratically and was legal under German law. It is interesting to read German court cases from the Nazi times where everything in the decision turns on “the healthy opinion of the volk.” Our Con Law professor Dr. Hanson is referencing would probably very happy with that sort of legal structure – at least until the Gestapo came for him.
These are the harvests of several generations of pollinating little minds with the idea that man is the font of all wisdom, the source of all morality.
Unfortunately, many who ascribe to these heretical notions are very good people. I say unfortunately because they become an army of dupes for those egomainiacs who lust for power and use the presence of good but pure secularists to gain access to power. Once acquired these happy, good dupes will find out what the mind of man with the veneer of civility, the power and office of king and the velief that mankind, in particular gimself holds that wisdom and moral compass untethered from God.
That’s why Hanson’s article is so precisely, devastatingly true.
A nation divided against itself cannot stand.
By the way, has anyone else noticed that the very “Christian” Obama has been preaching disobedience to the 10th commandment for years?
“You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor’s.”
Your neighbor’s PB&J? Remember that anecdote about “sharing”?
“Hey! We did it to the Communist Party”
And the Communists would up running our country. So, I say: yes, please, outlaw and persecute the NRA. In thirty years, paradise!
This will end in war. It always does.
A fair counting would show that the USA is now some 90Trillion dollars in debt – when all debts are counted including SS and Medicare obligations.
Contrast that with $2.5Trillion (and falling) of taxes (revenue) collected by the IRS or even the $15Trillion GDP for that matter and you can see that the nation is bankrupt. There is no way to pay even the interest on this debt, even if we taxed GDP at 100%. The only way out is default or hyperinflation. Default is not likely, so we are probably headed on the path to hyperinflation.
The end game is that this always ends in war.
Then the question becomes: what kind? There are several to choose from.
Is it civil war, where we fight amongst ourselves over who rules who?
Is it a resource war, where we attack another country to pay our debts?
Is it a defensive war, where a creditor attacks us after realizing he is holding an empty bag?
It will most likely be religious war. With those who define themselves as “enlightened” telling everyone else, “convert or die”.
We look at radical Islamists and the mullahs of soon-to-be nuclear-armed Iran, and see existential enemies who are perfectly willing to destroy civilization in pursuit of their dogmas.
Progressives look at them and see wise gurus and role’ models. And can’t wait for their chance to emulate them.
clear ether
eon
Bill Ayers said that at least 25 Million Americans need to be killed in order for the system the Progs want to implement to work, and that was when the population was significantly lower than it is now.
This is why suddenly, now that Progressive Political Power is at the Zenith of its hold on the hearts of the non-political class, you’re seeing the “journalists” and some celebrities start to openly call for the death of political opponents.
Just throwing it at the wall, to see if they can get it to stick.
Perhaps those Iraniacs or similar actors will do our work for us, decapitating the US government at some opportune moment. Eventually we may put back the pieces as we wish.
Progressives look at them [radical Islamists and the mullahs] and see wise gurus and role’ models.
Let’s see the printed work on this contention. As in links. Surely there must be a vast body of printed articles showing that your claim isn’t mere hyperbolic, opinionated, fabricated nonsense.
You don’t need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Not a chance they would ever put it in writing.
“Progressives” never state what their true beliefs are. How could they ever get elected? And their followers love it.
But I disagree with eon about this anyway. Islam is only an ally of convenience of the left. Only fools think that Islam would survive for more than a few months if leftists ever manage to acquire the power they lust after. Even if the leftists are defeated by China, China will do the same, probably more ruthlessly. Islam is just a temporary annoyance. Muslims can’t build machines or even maintain them, so they can’t possibly defeat a modern movement once they are no longer useful.
Actually, you’re missing eon’s point.
He’s not saying that Progressives specifically want to institute Islam, but that they are seeking ways to grab a similar level of power over people’s lives, from cradle to grave, with a set of strict beliefs that must be held to under penalty of dismemberment or death to those who stray.
K’:
Precisely. Similar aspirations often result in similar “measures”, irrespective of the philosophy being promulgated.
Or in plain English, if thuggery is seen to work, those who dream of hegemony will act as thugs.
cheers
eon
Their silence speaks volumns. The holy grail of liberals is homosexuality and feminism. What are the two things islam disdain? Homosexuality and feminism. Where is the condemnation? They surely don’t spare it for others (others=conservatives/Christians/Israeilis)…………
Waiting for a liberal to condemn the human rights violations of islam is like waiting for that mysterious and elusive creature – the moderate muslim – to speak out on the abuses of the so-called radicals.
The most important change for this country and its future is the huge demographic change that is occurring at warp speed. The failure to recognize group differences and the fact that some groups are contributors and some are takers will destroy the US as we know it.
Written by a better man than myself, I’ve -probably foolishly- inserted a few new words, in an attempt to bring some of the ideas up to date.
‘Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offence, I should consider myself guilty of treason towards my country. It is natural to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the government for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which you have been pleased to comfort yourselves.
Shall we try argument? We have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer on the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not deceive ourselves. We have done everything that could be done, to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated. We have all but begged on our knees before The Congress and The White House, and before our elected representatives in both parties.
Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt by politicians in both parties in D.C.
After all these things, may we indulge the hope of peace and reconciliation? There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free? If we mean to preserve inviolate those rights for which we have been so long contending? If we mean not to abandon the struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon?
What else is left?
They tell us that we are weak; unable to cope with govenment force. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed?
Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by rolling over and lying on our backs? By hugging that phantom of hope, until our enemies have bound us hand and foot?
There is no retreat but in submission and slavery Our chains are forged! What course remains but to fight?’
Lots of eloquent words in this thread, but are words ever going to be enough? I hope all of you patriots are still hoping for the best, yet planning for the worst. Our children and grand children’s lives depend upon it.
This Viet Nam combat Vet has always been a “Glass Half Full”, “Life of the Party” kinda guy..but also being a student of history and living in realville..I’ve seen the writing on the wall since Nov. 7th 2008. That’s when I started to allot myself time and money to supply myself and my family the new necessity’s of life in Post Barry America..knowledge..Food..guns..ammo…
You don’t need a telescope to see what’s coming my friends….✎Not Over!
Another excellent article by Dr. Hanson, which clearly identifies many of the ailments that plague us and surprisingly, our strengths.
I’ve been reading Dr. Hanson’ commentaries for a number of years now and find them insightful and though provoking. The ideological menace that we face is clearly depicted. I’d like to see Dr. Hanson make a case for the most appropriate methods and avenues for resistance to the creation of a “new” America, from a historical perspective at least.
Many (and more each day) can see the efforts of the Statists as they tighten their hold on our society, much like a constricting snake does with its prey as it exhales. Each moment, a bit tighter, closer to the final outcome. It’s time for all who can see the snake to start speaking clearly about how we’re going to cut its head off and save ourselves.
Outstanding article, Dr. Hanson. Those quotes from Seidman sound like something right out of the pages of Atlas Shrugged.
Scary times, indeed.
Mr. Kaul advocates declaring NRA members terrorists and dragging Republican politicians behind pickup trucks. He does this while restrained both by law and the quantity of firearms amongst patriots. Does anyone doubt what he and his fellow travellers will do when they are no longer restrained? And they wonder why WE won’t disarm.
I always think: Thank Gawd our military is mainly white and Christian. Imagine if it were non-white and Muslim.
Military members — heroes of the USA — swear to protect and uphold the constitution, not the god of white people.
You should be ashamed.
You should go to HuffPo or Kos where somebody might care about the lefty idiocy you try to peddle.
Said it before and I’ll say it again, you’re really a nasty little dickhead, aren’t you?
Hugo Chavez Outlaws Gun Ownership, Murder Rate Hits 21,692 January 1, 2013 By Daniel Greenfield
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/hugo-chavez-outlaws-gun-ownership-murder-rate-hits-21692/
On Nov 6th, when the bad news was more than obvious, I told my family that I was going “Soviet” in my mentality regarding our government. I would, in public, lie to whoever was asking me political questions, etc. My lying would be designed to protect my self and those who I truly love…everyone else would be on his/her own.
The State would never get the truth from my lips if such truths would injure my freedom or those I wished to protect.
I would seek out others who might share my perspectives, political beliefs, etc.
I am now looking to armor up and seriously considering watching those tv shows on “doomsday preppers” along with “gold rush” for obvious reasons.
I don’t like flies, bugs, really cold weather, etc., so maybe Alaska is too far out of the question.
I’ve also noted that our dear Secret Service is intending to create a “more secure” environment for our Dictator’s swearing in show later this month. I wonder what they know that we may not…
At least Hillary is working overtime to help us little people…
You’d have a real argument if you could show Seidman was typical whereas what you appear to be showing is merely that the exception proves the rule; Seidman gets print due to being provocative. If he said anything mainstream or even sane, he’d be too boring to print. You argument is of little merit. It’s lazy.
On the other hand chicken little-ism sells. Contitutional chicken little nonsense sells to the non-thinkers here and climate chicken little crap sells to the equal and opposite faux intellectuals on lefty sites.
randomengineer,
You are a fraud, a faux intellectual who has long posed here as a critical thinker.
Unable to rebut the article, yet desperate to discredit it, you claim the only reason Seidman gets printed is because he is provocative. In the next sentence you then call VDH’s work “constitutional chicken little nonsense”. I suppose that does not constitute provocative writing? Your own argument collapses on itself in a grand total of two sentences.
Congratulations, you are the most pathetic example of a failed intellectual deconstruction in PJM history.
You are unmasked. You are no critical thinker, but instead an ideologue who ignores open calls for tossing aside our entire basis of government, provided by the most influential newspaper in the world. Instead you have criticism for a relatively small new media blog whose author merely points out the implication of the NYT Op-Ed.
That demonstrates either stunning foolishness, or a purposeful action lacking in integrity.
The scare here is immediate, not metaphysical.
Solyndra is the face of the beast – money coerced from the rich – and burned. This being the system to replace capitalism that has brought us the (gasoline burning) automobile, the iPhone, and VDH’s Target tie.
All Obamanomics does is consume, and it eventually kills actual productivity. It’s all very “Atlas Shrugged”.
The point being we are OVER THE REAL CLIFF. The 10,000,000 jobs shipped to China means there IS NO FIX for the US economy – until and unless those jobs come back. We can diddle the tax rates and live on Bernankebux a little longer, but it’s just the socialist leveling and sharing of what’s already in the pantry.
Plus, Obama is still dead set against the new energy technologies because even if fracking were 10000% safe it produces oil, that when burned produces CO2, which is the breath of the devil. Oh, I suppose he will let himself be dragged kicking and screaming into supporting it – as it has *already* produced 1.7m jobs according to late reports and basically saved his socialist ass, there’s irony for ya.
My whole lfe, I have spent dismantling and scrapping once-mighy industries, most of which fought WWII, all of which hired, at very good pay, lots and lots of black men. Mostly with little education. Yet they all drove nice cars, had houses and families and went to church frequently. They worked very hard, in harsh conditions, but they had a society that was healthy.
The reason for their demise was either the EPA, OSHA or Unions.
There is no comparable job available for similar black men today that pays them anything like the same kind of wage. Because of liberal policies. Everyone I know pointed this out at the time. Noone listened. “We’ll TEACH them with a government jobs program!” We all know how well that works out.
So the government decided that, instead of backing off those regulations, they would just hire all of them in government. The problem is that, between child support owed, drug charges, drunk driving charges, etc, these men can NEVER get a government job. So they sell drugs. And get welfare. And steal.
I have yet to get one single liberal to understand this and accept it as a fact. They (who were not there, I was) will never admit to having caused it, in the firt place. They try to change the aubject, accuse others who had nothing to do with it, claim that it was just that those businesses were no longer profitable (they weren’t, because of them!)
Libtards lie, all day long. They know very little because it doesn’t matter to them:
Libs only care what it SOUNDS like, not what it really IS.
Let’s use the threat of secession to force a Constitutional Congress. That way, any State that fails to ratify it, secedes anyway, without bloodshed.
Just make sure that NO current Federal politician serves with that Congress.
Let’s get busy with getting some States to begin their disobedience and start the process for a Constitutional Convention. Then you’ll REALLY find out just how smart those darn Old White Men in Funny Suits were!
Athletic teams at Fontana HS in Fontana, California are known as the Steelers.
It comes as a compete shock to those without a sense of history that there was ever a steel mill located in Fontana.
Sorry, but I don’t have even the slightest interest in allowing a res publica that could elect Comrade Obama start writing a Constitution.
Since the beginning of times all societies have been ruled by small tyrannical elites who Rarely one of them ended up as benevolent king/dictator. No one understood this reality better than The America’s founding fathers. And their solution for this human condition was to limit the power of the powerful, even though they were the powerful elites of their time. Unfortunately all those people featured in this article are unable to learn from history. They are stupid enough not to understand that always out there is some smarter, more devious more intelligent, more evil who’s waiting to take them down.
Excellent article; one can only explain these times by believing that Obama doesn’t have the country’s best interests at heart. I wouldn’t say he hates the country, but he certainly has issues with it that bring him right up to line of hating it.
Obama’s current smug public arrogance isn’t appropriate for what the dems did to get him reelected. And what they did won’t work for them next year. Maybe the famous dem self-preservation instinct will kick in sooner or later and end this madness, but I’m not counting on it.
The math doesn’t support what Obama wants to do. Only a level of taxation that would bring on a revolution would and that revolution, if it comes, won’t have Obama’s name on it.
It makes a point, but we could do with knowing about cranks like Prof. Seidman. We hear about them with depressing regularity now because they’re no longer afraid to make their opinions public. They understand that almost every member of the MSM won’t take him to task and might even agree with him.
They want to rule. They believe they ought to rule. They can’t think of a single reason why they shouldn’t rule.
The next step is to make sure nobody can stop them.
If that causes a little pain for some, they know it will all be worthwhile in the end.
I’ve seen this movie before. Actually, I think it’s playing in about 100+ theaters right now.
Stockton California Defaults, Puts Investors at the Back of the Line January 1, 2013 By Sara Noble
http://www.independentsentinel.com/2013/01/stockton-california-defaults-puts-investors-at-the-back-of-the-line/
I came to Dr. Hanson’s positions many years ago, (except, at 70, I still change my own oil.) Better minds than mine pointed out facts. Judge Bork estimated, decades ago, that 40% of the judges in America do not believe in the Constitution they swore to uphold. IMHO, the concept of the “living document” is a equivocation to square a circle. Example; Nibble at the 2nd Amendment’s,”shalt not be infringed” into “turn them all in.”
It would be honorable if those who disagree attempted to openly revise, or revoke, our basic law, but everyone knows they lack the votes. So today, they overturn our basic freedoms by some byzantine entry in the Code of Federal Regulations, or buried in a 45,000 page law nobody reads. What America has lost is candor (truthful speaking) and trust in each other.
The fiscal cliff, after years of failures to define a national budget is another clear example. America is failing its most basic functions.
Freedom is measured in many diverse ways, and one key metric if economic freedom. If an entity owns 100% of the output of your effort, by definition you are a slave. If an entity knows everything you do, everywhere you go, every one you speak to, and what you think, you are a thing. I welcomed the enormous uproar against President Bush’s use of wire taps, because I naively thought America would have an adult debate on electronic data gathering and computation. However, the US just enacted laws and regulations which permit unlimited surveillance on all electronic communications, among Americans, without a peep from the media. What changed? A President elect, from a different party, and different skin color.
A sizable portion of the Washington D. C. government leadership have become felons. They pasted harsh laws, creating felonies, for the mere possession of ammo, or magazines. One military non com have been convicted of these laws, through innocent ignorance. But a network talking head brandished an illegal magazine on national TV, was not arrested, for committing a worse crime, a deliberate violation, then interviewed the Commander-in-Chief of the US the next week. His network had sought and was denied permission to possess the magazine.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/1/two-systems-of-justice/
The wheels fell over two miles back. Our nation is in deep trouble.
I go to church and pray.
Seemingly, you forget or most likely intentioanl forget, that few — very few government regulations have any origins isolated from within the halls of congress or the executive. Virtually all of the business of the congress and the administration of the executive are influenced and controlled by endless numbers of the “peoples” special interest groups and their lobbyists.
Intellectual ignorance and hypocrisy always want to point blame to the governments officials. Nor, do they ever want to recognized that the government is of the people – by a majority of the people.
Theres plenty wrong within the great american experiement today, but pointing too, and intellectualizing the wrong source(s) of the problems does nothing to correct the real problems.
weo, above has a point.
We have allowed two institutions to be taken over by those who would be our rulers: public education and a free press. The education system in general has become generally corrupted over about 50 years time; the primary and secondary public schools have corrupted two generations of the young. What used to be a free press has become a propaganda organ for our would-be rulers. Together they rewrite history and reshape the future.
The young are easy targets for corrupt thought; they have never known anything else. How do we reverse that?
Not sure how much to believe, and this will turn off the anti-conspiracy crew, but we seem to get the truth only from non-US media. THis caught my attention recently. Terrifying if only partially true….
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=364c513134-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email
Only in academe could someone as deeply, irremediably stupid as Seidman remain viable. I weep for the prospects for freedom in this world.
Your lies about poverty speak volumes.
Which lies, lefty punk? Lies and “I don’t like it” are synonyms to lefty punks. Let’s have some specificity, or you can go back to the idiots at HuffPo or Kos.
Well said Art. I cannot argue or add anything to that. And I think you are right, it is time I began to read Leftist idiocy again, it’s just that it’s ever so much more deceptive and anti-American.
Okay, I’ll add huffpo and dailykos to my news reading, thanks.
Libertyship46. Now Its your time to write those thoughtful responses – you have valid points. For those of “US” with arms and ammo, (you might even be one) its not our time as yet, it will unfortunately come, I think within the next 10 years, but not yet.
There is still time for someone to stand up and speak a message that will resound with the mass, it will not be easy, it will take time, energy, guts, luck, some protection from the media membrane, and our collective situations will have to get worse, but there is still time.
Those of “US” with arms are not yet met on the town green –where ever and whatever that looks like in the modern era. But we will not wait for the thugs or Govt. robots to come down our street and we will not give up our arms no matter what the chattering candy ass political class thinks about weapons in the hands of law abiding citizens,
I, you, we all pray this need will never occur, that someone will speak up and be heard. But if not! beware — there are more than enough of “US” willing to pull a “HESTON” to defend that 200 plus year old document that the arrogant asses mentioned in the Doctors. essay think is rubbish. For their sake and ours I hope they do not test “US”!
Check 6
Having read Seidman’s piece, I literally could not determine whether he was really being serious, or not. Were I inclined to write a great parody of a progressive ideology, and get a progressive newspaper to publish it, I might will have written the Seidman essay.
In re-electing Barack Obama, the American people chose for America to decline. all that remains is to determine how far and how fast. Decline is locked in.
In staying home and not going to the polls, Republicans and conservatives allowed the Obama re- election, achieved with a very narrow margin.
Had a few million Republicans exercised their electoral power and voted for a not-so-great Repub. candidate over a tyrant, instead of throwing a hissy fit, they could have achieved leverage with the Republican candidate as POTUS and begun rebuilding the country.
But they stayed home, sulking and NOT VOTING – on “principle”.
Yeah, that always wins over pragmatic grabs for power.
A journalist, Donald Kaul, in the Des Moines Register offers us a three-step, presto! plan to stop school shootings…”Repeal the Second Amendment, the part about guns anyway.”
The 2nd amendment is only one sentence long, and it’s “about guns”. Has Donald read the thing, or is he as big a moron as the WaPo guy who opined that the US Constitution was antiquated (“over 100 years old”) and nobody knew what it said?
And speaking of morons
In 1933 the Twenty-first Amendment was ratified, which repealed the 18th Amendment (Prohibition). It’s not like there is no precedent for repealing part of the Constitution.
The Constitution is a broadly formulated, general document that lays out the structure of the proposed federal government.
It delineates who has which powers and responsibilities accruing to each.
If one amendment abrogates another amendment (such as prohibition), I don’t see that as equivalent to “repealing part of the Constitution”.
The Constitution is not “repealable” but it is AMENDABLE!
The 18th amendment had to be passed by the states in the first place, before it was part of the law of the land.
13 years later it was repealled because we realized what a stupid idea it was! Which also meant it had to go through all the states to be ratified.
The first 10 amendments are non-amendable. It was the inclusion of the Bill of Rights that enabled the 13 Colonies to move past the Articles of Confederation to adopt the Constitution. If the Bill of Rights were not included in the ratification of the Constitution, several of the colonies would not have agreed to the Constitution, and we would not have A Republic as we have now. Virginia was one of those colonies, and IIRC the first to call for an acknowledgement of the God given rights of men.
You’ve got your history right, but your law wrong. No part of the Constitution is “unamendable”. Note that I’m not saying the Bill of Rights should be amended, just that, as part of the Constitution, it could be. Personally, I’d fight such an effort.
If the left is feeling it’s victory and intends to rush forward with it’s redistributionist plans, they couldn’t have chosen a worse time. There’s nothing left to redistribute but debt. Look up the Weimar Republic 1921-1924 fools.
Louis Michael Seidman…A law professor
Good God.
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg warning the Egyptians not to follow our own constitutional example, when South Africa has offered so much more to humanity than did Madison, Hamilton, Jefferson, and others…
Don’t forget Affirmative Action beneficiary and self-proclaimed Wise Latina now sitting on the SCOTUS.
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor, who is now considered to be near the top of President Obama’s list of potential Supreme Court nominees.”
TIME TO INDISCRIMINATELY KILL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY PERSONNE.
Smells like troll.
Mary,
I smell troll, too. But, because so many of our civic officers, from firefighters to cops to teachers, are unionized, they have forfeited the civic nature of their work, and their loyalties are now unclear.
I have no beef with law enforcement, or firefighters and such, only with their penchent for unionizing to squeeze their patrons, us.
There is no honor in serving a public that your union sees as an adversary to their pension and pay-scale goals. Just as a dude that refuses to put our your house-fire because “you aren’t paying him enough” is devoid of civic honor.
This difference between honorable civic officers and their fake, unionized wannabes is going to start to matter soon, especially since the unions officers are being urged to join are likely to be foreign or “international” ones, with zero fealty to local citizens civic concerns and pocket books.
Let’s break all government employees’ unions and bring our civic officers loyalties back home where they belong!
Just who the Hell is Louis Michael Seidman anyway? No doubt some mediocre scholar who barely understood anything he learned in college and spent most of his time parrotting what his law professors said so he could get good grades.
There are very few effective brakes on Obama’s power left in the federal government.
He’s purged key military leadership and is poised to slash the officer corps making any career officer afraid for his job and his family’s livihood.
Somehow, he’s cowed Chief Justice Roberts and has appointed two supporters to the SCOTUS so the court is of little effect.
Harry Reid seems to have very effective control on the Senate.
There are few insitutional checks on his power as his use and abuse of executive orders will continue and expand.
The House will be sidestepped whether or not the RINOs have the will to muster a defense.
Governors and legislatures in conservative states are one of the few contravailing power centers.
One weak spot for Obama must be certain Senate Democrats. Many of them seem to be exceeding the wishes of their electorate in continuing to back Obama and Reid. Who are these people? Manchin in West Virginia might be one but he backed off criticism of Obama and recanted promptly (I forget the details).
As RandomEngineer noted, Seidman is either on the fringe on on the vanguard. I’m tending to believe the latter. His thinking goes back to the academic work of Woodrow Wilson so he is by no means a lone wolf intellectual. He is not alone!
Ergo, the pressure points for citizens who support and are willing to defend the Constitution should be 1) conservative Democratic senators and congressmen, and 2) state governors and legislators.
If there’s a “cfbleachers”, “I want a divorce crowd” in here, albeit, one lurking in the entire nation, my DNA calls me to join it. Secession, I believe, in the right choice. The bloodless choice.
If there is a civil war contingent in here and out there, the method for achieving the goal is open for debate although Rachel believes it would require a bold, brilliant Yamamotoesque attack plan. Radio silence. A Sunday strike. Battleship row violence.
The Japanese believed America would sue for peace after a 100% successful attack, one that left Japan in charge of the skies. But the carriers were still floating full speed ahead when the day’s setting sun disappeared on the horizon along with Yamamoto’s expectation for a quick rising sun victory.
The American version of the Dec. 7 attack would have to impact fear deep into the marrow of every surviving soul.
“Would me and my family be next” I would expect to keep them up at night, Ambien or no. And keep their governmental actions in check during the day.
Anyway, that’s how I see cfbleacher’s civil war option possibly being successful. Day’s end fear in the hearts of every government official would turn them all into geldings, not leftists itching for a fight. This would not be a bloodless. I’m fall in the Lennon camp.
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know that you can count me out
Don’t you know it’s gonna be all right
All right, all right
Back to prose.
Capitulation; what the Republican party is about whenever the choices make them sweat. Capitulation is easy. But it involves abandoning your principles and killing the Constitution; committing suicide in the process.
Does the choice come down to 200 or so Rachel words?
That’s how I see it.
Unfortunately, the 7th cavalry with bugles blowing can’t be expected to come to our nation’s rescue, regardless of how much they’d like to.
The best of both worlds would be for us to secede with the nuke codes for the missiles in the states that have left making the seceded states a sudden nuclear power and do it all on one day. I doubt such a thing would even be possible, but if it were, any remaining states would have to think long and hard about trying to force us back into the union.
Note the fox-in-the-henhouse notion that a constitutional law professor essentially hates the Constitution he is supposed to teach…
It’s not like there isn’t precedent…
Those stupid founding fathers just weren’t enlightened enough to imagine the federal government as Redistributionist Godfather and Community Organizer
What piffle. The only radical political force in the U.S. is the radical right. You are the utopian revolutionaries while the center and center left tries to hang on to the institutions that served us so well.
I appreciate that it looks to you as if you have been losing ground because on cultural matters you have been losing ground—racial equality, feminism, gay rights. Things are very different on the economic front, however, where it is you guys who have had your way since the Nixon administration. As you desired, taxes on the wealthy have gone drastically down while they went up on working people. Infrastructure spending has been kept down. Military spending has been kept up. A non-stop war has been waged against the unions. Corporations are now officially people, my friend.
Here’s the normal pattern. When radical movements implement their policies and the results are unfavorable, they don’t reassess their ideas. The true believers simply insist that all will be well if the true faith were only more purely enforced. So you win some more and things get still worse. The fault, however, never lies with you, but with the mysteriously powerful liberals, even though they haven’t been calling the shots for decades. It isn’t us, you cry, we just haven’t beheaded enough aristocrats or shot enough kulaks yet! The real McCoy free market will save us. The real Constitution (properly interpreted)! Universities that teach everybody exactly what we want them to!
If only you’d really live up to your ideological fantasies and go Galt once and for all.
As you desired, taxes on the wealthy have gone drastically down while they went up on working people.
Half the nation doesn’t pay federal income taxes. At all. zip zilch nada
The top 5% of earners pays close to 60% of total federal income taxes.
Barack wants more of their cash, not in the name of fiscal sanity since those projected revenues won’t do diddly squat to his enormous deficits, but in the name of class warfare.
A non-stop war has been waged against the unions.
People are sick of unions, leaving them in droves, sick and tired of hugely overpaid bosses funding their own lavish lifestyles (and political favorites) with union dues. Among other corrupt anomalies.
Your university brainwashing hasn’t enabled you to begin to understand the sterling realities of capitalism.
You need to spend some time reading Milton Friedman. And Ayn Rand.
If going Galt would deprive you of a shirt and a computer, I would consider it
Actually, you’ve proved his point for him, there, cupcake.
You’re a reactionary, not a revolutionary. A Torie, iow. You want to be in charge, but you don’t really want to change anything…except for you being charge, instead of the other guy. Freedom and liberty, and even The Constitution, are secondary concerns.
The other fella, in his comment above, was actually agreeing with you, while also pointing out a few problems with your logic and with the previous, well known and historically documented actions of the right, due to that false logic.
Go away bonesteel.
One idiotlogue at a time is already too many.
And what happened to your “W” ? More lost letters ?
If you must be a certified, accredited and licensed typist in order to have an opinion, we’re already screwed.
You’re a part of the problem, there, chief. You’ll have as much blood on your hands as any other guilty party, when it begins.
You wanna know where this is all going?
Recent commentaries on what’s about to happen can be found at
Bob Owens blog, titled, “What you’ll see in the Rebellion.”
DaTechGuy blog, titled, “Fire meet gasoline.”
Those two have something resembling a clue. The comments on Mr. Owen’s site are particularly revealing. Some of you are still arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
How bad can it get?
Google: ‘a reader’s resources on systemic collapse.’ a short commentary followed by extensive resources and references, the latter half of which are still timely and relevant.
see also: ‘The Next American Revolution by Warren “Bones” Bonesteel’ A longer commentary followed by references and resources. Somewhat dated, but still relevant. Includes an old poll of active duty military, and what they would do if ordered to fire on American citizens.
Then: ‘Beyond Conspiracy: Police State America.’
Plus:
“Winter is Coming” by Jim Goulding
“The Fourth Turning” by Strauss and Howe
Two papers by Miller, Butler and Joubert, “The Rise and Fall of Civilizations” and “12,000 Years of Elliot Waves.” Both are online and free.
A storm is coming, kiddo. It’s going to be a bad one. Best get ready for it.
This is not going to end the way you might think.
In the end, all that will remain are the things you only think you understand. Freedom. Liberty, Credibility. Honor. Commitment. …and courage.
Remember: There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch. Your own words reveal that you don’t have a f***ing clue what it really means.
Infrastructure spending has been kept down.
In 2009, under conditions of enforced panic (“never waste a good crisis”) Barack got close to $1 trillion for purposes of “stimulating” the economy.
Cost per job “created” under stimulus $230,833/per job.
Millions and millions more given to not ready for prime time boondoggles under energy dept. loan guarantees, most enterprises now bankrupt, poster child Solyndra.
Cost per green job (3,545) “created” $5,000,000.
And you and this sucker want MORE ?
I appreciate that it looks to you as if you have been losing ground because on cultural matters you have been losing ground—racial equality, feminism, gay rights
You’re kidding with that trash right? The democrat party has NEVER been for racial or feminine equality. After you democrats lost the fight over outright ownership of people in the 1860s you spent the next 150+ years making every avenue of black success in America bloody and full of death. NO attempt for racial equality has ever been championed by the democrat party. None.
At best democrats have convinced blacks to put themselves on the plantation of govt dependency and you’ve turneed women into insipid, vanity driven little whores and champions of your evil eugenicist policies.
Do you really believe your own nonsense or is just that you never finished high school? Since the days of Harry Truman, the Democratic and Republican parties have pretty much switched places. (Compare the election maps for 1948 and 2012: blue is red and red is blue.) The Democrats opted for civil rights, which costs them the South for 60 years as the former Dixiecrats became the heart and soul of the new Republican party. The reorganization of the party system goes beyond race issues. The Republicans and the Whigs, the party they evolved from, had once been the party in favor of a closer American union and what was once called “national improvements”—what we call infrastructure and you call socialism. Obama’s Democratic party is the nearest thing we have to the Republican party of Lincoln, Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower. You lot are now the true heirs of Jefferson Davis. What a side decline!
Jim Harrison,
Do you genuinely believe all the southern Democrats who turned firehoses and police dogs on black marchers jumped into, and were welcomed by the Republican party and their voters?
You know MLK Jr was a Republican, right?
You know that the Civil Rights Act got 80% of its votes from Republicans, right?
You know that the KKK was composed of Democrats, right? Even my kids liberal California history textbooks admit that.
You know about Lyndon Johnson and his “support” of civil rights? http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/40889
So you really, truly believe that they did everything in their power to hurt blacks, disenfranchise blacks, suppress blacks, separate blacks, prevent blacks from getting educated, prevent blacks from voting, prevent blacks from interacting wtih, dating, and marrying whites, and then suddenly got all lovey dovey on blacks?
You don’t think they shifted tactics after the blacks got 100% equal treatment under the law?
All that hate, and it just vanished?
How does that happen? How does all that hate just go “whoosh” ?
The hate didn’t vanish. It simply moved into the GOP. Your party made a Faustian bargain. You’ll have to judge whether the 24 years of political prosperity were worth it.
What bothers me is this: the two worst political power blocks in the United States have long been the plutocrats and the Southerners. In the first half of the 20th Century, their ability to harm us all was moderated because they were concentrated in different parties. Since the great reorganization of American politics, both have landed on the same side of the fence with predictably deplorable consequences.
the kkk was formed to stop blacks from raping, looting and doing things blacks love to do throughout the south.Fact.
When is the last time the KKK did anything to a negro?
Serious, question, I hear negro’s going out killing white peoples every freaking day of the week.
Some of these whites are children that don’t deserve it…
The Black Panthers put a ten grand target on Zimmerman and threaten race war just a few weeks ago.
Yet, you’re targing the clan?
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photos of Whites being lynched and also a story of a Black male being lynched by a mob of Blacks.
Lynching most of the time had nothing to do with racism. Whites, Blacks, Jews, Men and Women were all lynched, if you committed crime that outraged the local community you were lynched, simple as that really.
Only the Blacks and Liberals turn lynching into a race issue.
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http://violentflashmobs.com/
This is precisely why they had segregation in the Southern States, exactly why they had and NEEDED the good ol’ boys of the KKK to ‘take care of business’ etc. This is why they had segregation in South Africa
Yea, the democrat dixiecrats that all went back into the democrat party are now the republicans. Please. 100 years of republican’s championing equality for blacks, including freeing them from slavery magically changed to what the democrats believe overnight? Maybe in your head. Of course, you’ll be able to list us those examples of the positive things you’ve done for blacks. Ya know, those things like destroying their families and completely impoverishing the.,
Putting money into infrastructure is socialism? Uhh not so much, but please enlighten me. Which of these was actually putting money into infrastructure. 1. Solyndra 2. The take over of GM 3. vetoing the canadian pipeline 4. Benghazi 5. massively reducing offshore drilling 6. Obama coal 7. Fast and Furious 8. the 500 million dollar green jobs training program
(5 days of training) that ‘created’ 11000 jobs.
The democrat party is nothing like Lincoln, TR or Eisenhower. You dolts are the party of Marx and your redistribution of wealth and dis belief in private property rights is why we KNOW you’re a bunch of howler marxists. You people are the anti-God party. How on Earth do you think you have the slightest thing in common with Lincoln or Eisenhower?
I didn’t get into this game yesterday. I remember very well how the John Birchers of my youth denounced Eisenhower as a Communist, just as you folks call Obama and many others Marxists.
You know when you call everybody in sight a “Marxist,” you aren’t communicating an idea, you’re essentially just swearing. I understand that it’s quite common for stroke victims to be able to curse even thought have lost the power of articulate speech. Maybe something like that is going on with you guys. Maybe what we have here is an epidemic of neurological dysfunction.
By the way, why do you suppose that black people vote overwhelmingly for Democrats? After all, they have been doing so for a long time now, though in Teddy Roosevelt’s time, they voted mostly Republican. Since you assure us that you Republicans are in their corner, I guess you must think they are just too stupid to realize what’s good for them.
BTW, your response amounted to, ‘well I cant refute what he’s saying so I’ll just Alinsky him.’
I blame blacks voting for democrats on the progressive takeover of education. You people have duped a whole bunch of people with your revisionist history. YOU people still run around blaming segregation and the KKK and all the ills YOU foisted on this country on republicans and it’s all lies. I’ll give you all credit, you are certainly the master of lies. You do it VERY well.
The democrat party didn’t magically become the party of freedom. You have zero evidence to back that up. Instead of enslaving just blacks you people have moved on to just duping Americans into enslaving themselves. You’re still the party of slavery, you just want to enslave everyone.
Sorry, forgot to put my name above.
And BTW, your response amounted to ‘we know whats good for blacks and we approve of what we’ve done to them’. It also bears out my contention that you’ve duped them.
The Democrats aren’t the party of Marx, oddly they are the party of the Government. Everything they advocate and everything they do benefits the government. It is bizarre. Many of them think they’re Marxists because they don’t understand Marxism. Marx believed the revolution would happen first in the most advanced countries like England, France, and the United States where it never happened. He also believed that government would nearly disappear when the revolution was over which certainly didn’t happen in the Soviet Union, China, Koo-buh, or any other Communist state. These failed predictions are part of why Marx was wrong and Marxism is a false philosophy.
Riiiight because nothing about the country has changed except its political parties? Did you miss the Great Migration where southern blacks migrated to the north to get jobs? What happened when they got there? Unions happened to keep the blacks from taking labor from northern white laborers. Let’s look at today. The South is Right to Work and remains so even in the face of a new Great Migration away from jobless northern states, killed by their own unions. If the racists still inhabit the South, where are the measures to keep the migrating peoples from taking jobs?
If the racists still inhabited the South, why did South Carolina elect Indian descendent Nikki Haley or Louisiana, Indian descendant Bobby Jindal? Why did South Carolina elect Tim Scott from the Ft. Sumter district? How did Allen West get elected for even one term, and what’s Marco Rubio’s excuse?
And it’s no use saying these people were only elected by minority populations because we all know how proud you are that those populations vote so heavily democrat, so that can’t be it because you work very hard to make sure those populations won’t even recognize a minority Republican as one of their own. Ergo, it must be the votes of the so-called racist Republicans, and even worse, those insane TEA Party folks that got these people elected. Why? Because we aren’t racists, you idiot.
Half my family is Southern, and I’ve spent a great deal of time down there, so spare me the right-to-work paradise argument.
Median waged (2006):
Michigan $47, 064
Mississippi
So you view success only thru the lens of money. According to you people it’s the republicans that are the greedy ones..
Harrison, this statement of yours is arrant nonsense:
“Obama’s Democratic party is the nearest thing we have to the Republican party of Lincoln, Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower.”
[...an aside (1) to the hovering spirit of George Orwell: In your "1984" sequel, devote a chapter to one "J.H." who is holding upright a forked spear while hypnotized through glazed eyes by that swirling vortex around your famous "Memory Hole".
....an aside (2) to Richard Wagner: cue in your "Gotterdammerung" score, suggest adding lots more brass.
....an aside (3) to Giuseppe Verdi: round up more donkeys, deploy them to follow (reluctantly) behind the massed elephants in your Grande Marche. Alert chorus of bellowing dung sweepers to follow the donkeys.
All cast members to be mobilized at the Hollywood Bowl for dress rehearsal.]
“The only radical political force in the U.S. is the radical right.”
Bwahhaha. Extreme left wing fascists would say that. Pimp you lies and blog elsewhere Jimbo. No one believes you here.
There goes Jim again, dragging race into every post where it is not. It only took him 60 words this time, until his idee fixe took over: “… you have been losing ground—racial equality, feminism, gay rights.”
Really Harrison? Get real. Gay rights and racial equality? In 2008, minorities in California rushed out to overwhelmingly vote both for Obama and against gay marriage. Seven out of 10 blacks showed their hate (to use the same word you included in a subsequent post here) against gays while 56 percent of Latinos voiced their opinion against homosexual marriage.
Imagine, the very people whose well being that you and many liberals are so obsessed about, expressing disgust with gay rights. “The hate didn’t vanish. It simply moved into the GOP,” you wrote in a subsequent post here.
Well, as a lifelong Californian, it’s obvious the California Democrat party is loaded with plenty of hate too. Of course, silly liberals explain away that delicious fact with the inevitable, “It was the Mormons fault” excuse. Lord knows I don’t want to put those words into Jim’s mouth; after all, he’s much better at putting words into other people’s mouths (posts?) than I could ever be. I’m just being thorough.
You also ask, somewhere here, “…why do you suppose that black people vote overwhelmingly for Democrats? … I guess you must think they are just too stupid to realize what’s good for them.” Clearly, black people, and Mexicans, and Filipinos, and Tongans, and Samoans, and Koreans, and Muslims, and Guamanians, and Costa Ricans, Nicaraguans, Marshall Islanders, and all the faces of the California Democrat party did indeed know what’s good for them. Homosexual marriage rights was not among them.
I guess Jim, that incessantly bringing up race, thus inferring racism, is not much different than your assertion here that, “…when you call everybody in sight a ‘Marxist,’ you aren’t communicating an idea, you’re essentially just swearing.” Jim, you swear a lot; a whole helluva lot in these posts and other posts.
What else did you crap out here? Oh yes, “A non-stop war has been waged against the unions…” Are you speaking of California’s overwhelmingly Democrat teacher’s unions, who along with their overwhelmingly Democrat school board counterparts, and its overwhelmingly Democrat voting public, have destroyed this state’s school system?
California ranked in the bottom half of states in the overall high school graduation rate in the 2010-2011 school year, according to the U.S. Department of Education. A recent report placed California schools at 30th in the nation. A May 2012 report showed that California schools ranked 47 in the nation in science achievement. Since California schools are overwhelmingly majority-minority, I am certain those same kids could teach us all a thing or two about putting a condom on a cucumber, much to the dismay of their minority parents who voted for Prop 8. Democrat controlled, liberal philosophied, minority driven.
Still, as you write, “The true believers simply insist that all will be well if the true faith were only more purely enforced.” Thus, don’t respond that droves of elderly white voters in California just aren’t spending enough money on the schools, or to reference your earlier post, “I guess you must think they are just too stupid to realize what’s good for them.”
Finally, you write, “I understand that it’s quite common for stroke victims to be able to curse even thought have lost the power of articulate speech. Maybe something like that is going on with you guys. Maybe what we have here is an epidemic of neurological dysfunction.”
I understand that it’s quite common for prostate patients to strain and dribble when voiding. Perhaps there are islands in Jim’s stream when he empties his thoughts in these posts.
Since you threw the kitchen sink at me, I’ll only address one point here. It is perfectly true that black voters in California opted for Proposition 8. That was hardly surprising granted that so many black people belong to conservative Protestant churches. And that points towards a larger irony. Many of the cultural characteristics of black people who emigrated from Dixie since WWII have their origins in their historical experience in the South. A certain style of fervent and irrational religiosity is only one of them. The black diaspora also brought with it a Southern sense of personal honor. If you’ve ever lived in a nearly all black neighborhood, as I have, you know that black men often have as prickly a sense of perpetually threatened manhood as any Appalachian white. The resulting propensity to violence works out differently among members of a despised minority than among, say, red-faced Texans in a Houston bar, though you better not look funny at either of ‘em. Blacks form gangs and express their Southern heritage that way. The whites join the NRA and go in for vigilantism. Both share a barbarian ethos. I wish they’d get over it.
Geeze Jim, I threw the kitchen sink at you? Is this the liberal moment when I get called “mean-spirited” and you go into either high-dudgeon or lip-pouting? Which sink, by the way, the ebony one or the porcelain one?
You write, “Many of the cultural characteristics of black people who emigrated from Dixie since WWII have their origins in their historical experience in the South. A certain style of fervent and irrational religiosity is only one of them.”
I see, so it’s still WASPs at fault; blacks still cannot be held culpable for their own bad behavior including being homophobic — never my word, I hate the word, but it sums things up — as there are c-u-l-t-u-r-a-l reasons for a behavior that is not approved of liberals. Thus, it is forgiven? Your lib-tribe refuses to attack them for it, thus enabling them? They are not purged from your ranks because their numbers empower you? Do they or do they not know what is good for them when they vote, as you mentioned earlier.
And Oh Law, “a certain style of fervent and irrational religiosity…” Jim, you are criticizing the very roots of our precious national music heritage, as well as the only national church-going approved of by liberals and the Democrat party — a photo-op at a black Gospel church — the long-suffered Clintons come to mind. I feel like Claude Rains, shocked…shocked…
You say you grew up among blacks and the above explains their behavior. I grew up in California and I speak Spanish more than half of my day, so don’t try and give me the pre-1848 ranchero cultural-cause lecture either. The early Californios married Irishmen and Portuguese. Modern Mexican-American behavior must be something else. Perhaps it is Maximilian and Carlotta’s fault that Latinos aren’t so fond of gays or abortion, just as you say black behavior has a cultural reason.
Following your example, for additional experience bonda fides, my hometown is now a plurality of polygamous Muslims, Filipinos, Samoans, Tongans, Chamorros, Chinese, and all of the rest of the Democrat gorgeous mosaic, and none of them grew up in your South. Perhaps Chinese-Americans in California dislike gays because they are still bitter with the Central Pacific Railroad.
Among the groups I mentioned above, there is no display of the “prickly sense of perpetually threatened manhood” you ascribe to blacks. These California Democrats are what they are and they are proud of it. Their tastes and beliefs have not and will not change, in part thanks to the liberal mantra of “diversity” and the liberal “assimilation is annihalation” model.
How do we explain their Democrat bad behavior? How to explain the hefty Polyesian women holding up anti-gay signs at street corners, far meaner than many bored white conservatives in California. And yet, these people are never held accountable by your people because they are not white.
I teach in private colleges Jim. My classes are entirely non-white. These Democrats are against abortion, against women’s rights, against gays, are pro-gun and for the death penalty. Welcome to your world Jim, your new liberal world, your polyglot, homophobic, gynophobic, abortophobic California world that is coming to your state soon. And like the poor whites and touchy blacks you described, they also like government services and plenty of them — and in their languages too. My neighboring town actally has a Muslim prayer room including the city hall itself so those workers and city-council meeting attendees can feel c-o-m-f-o-r-t-a-b-l-e when they pray. And those Democrat voters ain’t praying for the same things you pray for, Harrison.
It has been fascinating to watch Democrats here in California (excuse me Jim, Alta Calfiornia, Lord knows I don’t want to offend one of your liberal Democrat model citizens) cobble together this not-so-liberal Frankenstein monster.
Like the blacks and poor whites you dissected, do the people I described above also have a “barbarian ethos”? You wrote, “I wish they’d get over it.” Frankly and honestly, I admire you for being open with your disdain. That is the first step in coming to terms with reality.
Now, as a good liberal, do you still want to spend trillions in tax money to support all of the above, including the failing schools I mentioned earlier? I do not, and people like you call me racist, anti-intellectual, nativist, etc., for that belief. You likely do want to pi*s away that money (after a prostate palmetto pill of course) , despite the candor with which you expressed your disdain at certain behavior by some blacks. In essence, you are like the gay-hating blacks you described as you are not held accountable for your beliefs. I’ll take the scorn. That is the difference between you and I.
That is why I loathe your ilk and your media and your universities. Your lib-tribe members are hypocrites in the fullest sense of that overused word, a word I rarely use because I would be embarassed for sounding cliche. I am also ashamed at myself for writing at length here, as I have admonished others for doing so, even those I agree with. However, people like you tire me, race, race, race… I regret having even responded to your posts, because you probably mow your lawn and pick up the dog poop after walking your pet. Then again, if you lived in California you’d probably have cactus instead of a lawn and your pet would pick up after you.
Well, I’ll give you this. Most of the folks in these parts assume that everybody they disagree with is a Marxist. At least you operate with a different stereotype.
Since I’ve never figured out how to say everything at once, I didn’t give a very nuanced appreciation of black religiosity, which has its good as well as its bad sides. On issues like gay marriage membership in traditional congregations is bound to sort with resistance to sexual equality. For that matter, I can appreciate the barbarian values of the old South. Heck, I’ve got right to ‘em myself. My great great great great great grandfather got himself killed leading a charge against the Feds at Shiloh. I’m a Californian myself, and I spent part of my youth digging ditches beside a bunch of Chicanos. Hispanics have their own heritage, which, like everybody else’s, has its strengths and weaknesses. Things are changing, though, and the younger Hispanics I meet aren’t automatically anti-gay. Republican hostility to immigrants has something to do with that—as you probably know, a lot of the political problems of the Republicans in California dates back to Wilson’s strange decision to opt for nativism. The policies of the Republican party are radicalizing a great many people.
You are quite correct that Nixon was not an economic conservative, and I wouldn’t date the gradual triumph of the right on economic policy that far back. For that matter, I don’t think it was only a Republican thing. Jimmy Carter was a big fan of deregulation, and plenty of current-day blue dog Democrats and even supposed moderates have pretty much signed on to Neoliberal solutions to all problems, ergo the steady decline in the progressivity of the income tax and the relentless hostility aimed at unions from many Democrats as well as essentially all Republicans. Unfortunately, it turns out that increasing economic inequality and deregulating everything in sight isn’t a recipe for economic growth. I don’t chalk up the bad performance of the American economy over the last 30 years to political factors exclusively—I expect the causality runs both ways. Business interests have decided that America isn’t going to grow very much anymore so they have quite rationally decided to opt for getting a bigger piece of the pie by supporting tax and fiscal policies that divert money from below to above.
By the way, what did, “you guys who have had your way since the Nixon administration” mean? Nixon was responsible for Affirmative Action, the Endangered Species Act, the Environmenal Protection Agency and a host of other “urban” and environmental laws and programs, all articles of faith for your current lib-tribe.
In fact, when reviewing those dubious accomplishments, my twenty-something students look upon Nixon as a kindred spirit and can’t figure out why he was reviled. Needn’t worry, unlike the liberal professors I had, I am an honest academic, and I explain why and keep them on a truthful path. I will not abuse my podium.
Good Lord, “Half my family is Southern, and I’ve spent a great deal of time down there,”…”I spent part of my youth digging ditches beside a bunch of Chicanos”…”If you’ve ever lived in a nearly all black neighborhood, as I have…”
Jim, you are beginning to sound a little too much like, “Some of my best friends are…” Will someone please freshen Jim’s cocktail, I’ve never met a person as broadminded and provocative, or as well traveled.
“Things are changing, though, and the younger Hispanics I meet aren’t automatically anti-gay. Republican hostility to immigrants has something to do with that (and)…dates back to Wilson’s strange decision to opt for nativism.”
Are you saying Proposition 187 in 1994 caused minorities to go anti-gay some fourteen years later? Jim, I think you are flattening the maize of cause and effect into an awfully thin tortilla of shaky thought. Have another cocktail, a mint julep perhaps, or maybe even a margarita with your ditch-digging friends.
“The policies of the Republican party are radicalizing a great many people.” Wrong. The already radicalized gays provoked non-white immigrants to support Proposition 8. There is nothing more radical than gays marching in a San Francisco street parade screaming, “This isn’t ‘Ozzie and Harriet’ anymore!” with feather dusters shoved up their behinds. Pete Wilson had nothing to do with that. The anti-gay behavior of minority Democrats is reactionary behavior, pure and simple. Besides, in an earlier post you wrote, “The only radical political force in the U.S. is the radical right.”
And did you actually use the word “plutocrat” in an earlier post. Oh God, I have always taken great care in my life to avoid using a cliche term. Next you’ll be raging against “technocracy.”
Your dredging up of Pete Wilson from the who-cares files reminded me of the oft-forgotten fact, or rather the preferred-to-be-ignored fact, that in the 1974 California gubernatorial election, illegal immigration was an issue then as well, oh yes, and ex-priest Jerry Brown was openly against illegal immigration; in those days Democrats cared about the wage structure and farm-workers’ rights.
Unlike Nancy Pelosi who openly hires non-union labor for her grape plantation. And Cesar Chavez testified before Congress requesting the military be placed on the border, no less. My, my, now California has a holiday honoring the man, but folks like Jim call me a racist and tell me that I deal in sterotypes, albeit “different ones.”
Do you think that Nancy used her monetary gain to hire the late Phyllis Diller’s plastic surgeon? Clearly not, she hired Mickey Rourke’s plastic surgeon. Jim, how about you and Nancy star in a revival of “My Fair Lady.” You could play Henry Higgins, and look good wearing a smoking jacket and an ascot, perhaps hold a mint julep, and Nancy could play the bumbling Col. Pickering. Cheap community theater stage make-up could mask her growing rictus.
The plot would be that you two conspire to turn an innocent illegal girl into a raging, festering liberal Democrat. That’s good, “My Fair Laborer.” I like it. I’ll call William Morris now. And as for music, let’s see, what could be the mantra that converts her into an image of you. Ah, yes: “The face of race should always be the case.” Let’s sing:
The FACE of RACE should AL-ways be the CA-se…
The FACE of RACE should AL-ways be the CA-se…
By Jove she’s got it! I think she’s got it. Now repeat afer me my dear –
“In HART-ford, HOL-ly-wood and HAMP-shire, HI-rings HARD-ly HA-ppen…”
Great. You get a Tony and the Democrat party gets a million or more (abortions excluded) voters at the expense of others’ paychecks.
The hell with ya’all.
I just finished reading Niall Ferguson’s “Civilization” and “War of the World”.
History may not repeat itself, but it seems to me that when it comes to human beings, there are enough born traits to bring on chaos—that is, law and order are so fragile, that basic human nature MUST prevail.
Ferguson’s vivid exposition of all the manmade horrors, such as the rape of Nan king, certainly was enough to make me take notice. He even provides a quote from father Freud, about the inherent tendency of humans to want to survive, by procreating—ergo, rape—and by destroying “others”.
I believe we are RIGHT NOW experiencing the power grab by totally amoral descendents of at least Lenin, and probably Stalin. What else does it mean to be so cocky, to publicly proclaim that “a crisis is a terrible thing to waste”?
It still isn’t any where close to being well known, though, that Obama and his vanguard of the New Disorder are actively doing EVERYTHING they can get away with to create myriad crises, foreign and domestic. The marching order to any people who rise to the top of their “party” is—find ways to screw things up!
Here’s another chicken coming home to roost—they are using “Do it for the children” as a form to apply to ANY situation. Whereas in the past, presidents used to talk about leaving a better world for future generations, nowadays an Obama MOUTHS such phrases, but he actually is doing his best to bring about HELL for them.
Indeed, it pains me, as a 70-year-old to write this, but my generation and the one from the 60’s epitomizes CHILDREN, themselves—so, it’s all about THEM.
In effect, then, we have children leading the country, and the civilized world, therefore, and what’s coming won’t be pretty.
Simply put, most Americans are too physically fat AND fat headed—why, Hillary Clinton has been the most admired woman for many years, now! The criminal, Bill Clinton, even popped up on Jeopardy, yesterday!
As I try to imagine the future, despite all the positive aspects VDH mentioned, I’m in Mark Steyn and Niall Ferguson’s camp—the descent of America, and the civilized West, is just beginning.
I predict “We don’t need no stinking badges” will become much more well known as the watch-phrase that encapsulates our new “disordered” society.
Who NEEDS the rule of law, when ruthless men can arrogantly throw away the Constitution?
A simple example of the failure to stop the criminals—why haven’t the Republicans in the Senate SUED Harry Reid and his party for BREAKING THE LAW, by not submitting a budget, for three years, now?
See what I mean.
It’s ALREADY over—the bed has ALREADY been made, and there’s a whole lot of sleeping in it still to come.
Buy gold.
Hard to buy gold at today’s prices when you can remember it at $35/ounce.
Plus it won’t be worth a whole hell of a lot when the Alinsky, Frances Fox Piven, Van Jones, Barack et al. dream of complete meltdown comes to fruition.
Can’t eat gold. Will be a mess to haul around in a wheelbarrow on The Road (Cormac McCarthy).
But I hear you, Who Knows.
(over and out)
Of course, “buy gold” is short for acquiring stocks of food, etc, and IMHO especially getting free of debt.
Best is, nowadays, to “be neither a borrower nor a lender”, but to be an owner.
When you write gold won’t be worth a hell of a lot, if Obama et al take control, surely you jest. No doubt, if/when it comes to the worst, a barter economy will arise, and hard money—gold and silver—will rule.
Actually, one should also have some silver coins, in order to cover smaller expenses–now, there’s where you might need a wheelbarrow, if you’re really rich.
Inflation is currently running at 10%. The fed buys 80%+ of all treasuries issued, so we are directly monetizing in excess of 1 trillion dollars a year. The government cannnot afford to let market interest rates predominate since then treasuries would have to pay more than the rate of inflation. 10%+ interest on the debt would eat half of tax revenues, medical entitlements another half and social security another half still . Keeping interest rates at or as close to 0% as can be managed requires accelerated debasement of the currency, grete and greater amount of QEn (see Von Mises) . With Obama in office I can see no way to avoid a hyper-inflationary collapse of the dollar. I doubt the US has any gold reserves left, it has no silver reserves at all, so I cant see how a backed currency can be created to replace the dollar. Without a replacement currency commerce will collapse . Someone somewhere will create a backed currency . The Chinese have the reserves and capability to do so. Hopefully some US state will coin gold and silver since the Feds refuse to do what the constitution requires . Without currency technical civilization ceases . There has got to be some fed gov plan for a new currency but what it can be I cant imagine. People are not going to watch their saving and investment implode and then cheerfully accept some new differently colored paper.
Anyway inflationary collapse is almost certainly how things will fall apart. I doubt that the US military will function for long without a currency, especially overseas. Hopefully Mossad is preparing offers for select personnel now (F-35s, F-22s, nuke subs, etc.)
Inflation rate in 2012 = 1.8%
@Harrison
Actually the CPI that you are referring to is a statistical stunt to keep you from believing your lying eyes. It is achieved artificially by printing more money. It’s fake money, not based on the true value of the GDP but we’ve been able to get away with it so far because all the other currencies are also in the tank. This will end probably in the next five or so years and we can expect a correction of 10-15% inflation. 1.8% is only for November 2012.
As for your larger post above, go peddle your leftist drivel somewhere else.
MIT’s billion price index for 2012 = 1.7% (approximately)
To anticipate: Mr. Burns, “Lies! Lies! I tell you it’s all lies!”
@Jim Harrison
You probably also believe that unemployment dropped to 7.9% just before the election too. You know that anomaly that’s never happened that way at that time…
Oh wait, they were caught lying their a$$es off omitting the worst of the worst weren’t they. Yup, they omitted California that liberal bastion with the WORST employment in the nation. Like I said, master of lies….
“Who NEEDS the rule of law, when ruthless men can arrogantly throw away the Constitution?”
In doing so they lose any Constitutional protection for themselves. Goose sauce = gander sauce. (To them:) “No habeas corpus for you!“
Funny; A search of this article and comments does not show the use if the word “DISCIPLINE” one time.
And it is precisely DISCIPLINE that is lacking in just about every phase of American living today. Dr. Hanson outlined this in elegant fashion with his treatise on the American Institutions of recent history.
DISCIPLINE is seriously absent from the very people that have anointed themselves with the responsibility for the livelihood of all Americans; Congress and the Federal Government.
Their blatant display of lack of DISCIPLINE has been dominating the most celebrated time of year for most Americans, the Holiday Season.
How much more clear can this regime display it’s contempt for Our Constitution, Our Holiday Season, and Our civil liberties?
Haven’t you heard? They give drugs in place of discipline. You do see how well it’s working, don’t you?
An open call for getting rid of the US Constitution is one of the few hopeful developments in an otherwise exhausted culture. I will never understand why those professing the cause of conservatism do not greet this news with interest and even excitement. Instead they seem to think that an all-powerful, Manichaean Leftism has held the human race in bondage throughout the ages, and is constantly threatening to destroy America—the “land of the Free”—as well, were she not protected by her hallowed Constitution. Of course, it follows from this belief tht all men have lived in brutal tyranny and misery since time began, excepting those relative few who have inhabited America since 1789. This belief has absolutely no foundation in fact, yet that does not stop the defenders of the Constitution from accepting it as an axiom.
If you stop and think for a moment, you might just find that many of your treausred freedoms and values will be far easier to practice without Constitutional constraints. Take the Second Amendment, for instance. Where is the freedom to bear arms actually practiced with more gusto? In the United States, where you must submit to an entirely Constitutional background check and waiting period before purchasing a target pistol; or in Russia, where simply having the right money can get you anything from an AK-47 to a fast-attack submarine to a nuclear warhead?
Where is the right to life more concretely defended? In Russia, where Vladimir Putin paid women to have babies; or in the United States, where Obamacare forces taxpayers to pay for killing them? Remember that Obmacare is also entirely Constitutional.
Do you want the government out of the business of telling you what you can eat, drink, or smoke? In Russia you can still lite up a cigarette in the airports, the restaurants, the bars, and pretty much anywhere else; and nobody minds in the slightest if you want to have sausages and vodka every night for dinner. Try doing that in America these days.
How about the freedom of religion? In Russia they actually arrest people who impugn the dignity of the church. In America they arrest 76-year-old priests for protesting Obama’s visit to the University of Notre Dame.
None of this is meant to be an argument, by the way. Just food for thought. The real argument against the US Constitution is that it is a Godless, heretical, metaphysically nonsensical, humanist derivative of the great Protestant schism. Neither the Constitution nor its authors really care that much about you. The Framers cared only for getting rid of every impediment to their unfettered quest for personal satisfaction. The phrase “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” ought to shock the conscience of any pious soul, for contained therein is the kernel of every liberal reform you decry, and underneath it there breeds the pride of Satan, the fall of Adam, and every subsequent step of man’s descent into the abyss.
The Constitution is not a “conservative” document. It is an earlier form of liberalism, hailing from the day when the field still belonged more to the great intellects of splendid imposters like Locke and Jeffferson, rather than the passions of drunken urban canaille. Nevertheless, it is the self-same spirit which impells them both. Real property, real tradition, real dignity of life, action, or belief, is something the Constitutioon will neither recognize nor tolerate. Its aim is that of “taking,” just like Marxism. Republicanism is proto-Marxism dignified by a veneer of pompous moral theorizing.
The “conservatism” of today’s Constitutional defenders evidently dates back no further than the most recent sucessful reform. What is it, then, but laggard liberalism, and effeminate liberalism at that? Real conservatives begin from quite other metaphysical premises, understanding reality as it is, doing what must be done for the good of the soul and the sempeternal stability of the world.
Thank you for your screed.
You must have been in a near euphoric state of arousal as you pressed the “submit comment” button, weren’t you; reached for a cigarette to savor the moment, eh? I was having trouble figuring out if you were smug in your condescension, or condescending in your smugness.
To paraphrase Marshall Macluen in his cameo in Annie Hall, “I heard what you were saying! You know nothing of the Constitution!…How you got to be an American is totally amazing!”
Let me put this to you bluntly, if you live here please leave. We already have a form of government that works quite well when it is actually practiced as designed, not as it has been bastardized. It is clear that one of two things is true, first that you are ignorant of American civics, or second, that you understand American civics and have rejected it. Either way, you are a net negative upon our society. Just as the Tories decided it was best to pack up and sail away after the Revolution rather than live in a land governed contrary to their consciences, you should hit the road too, Jack.
If you are not here, please do not come. We love visitors, but not people who befoul our lovely country.
Rarely do we here, see such a verbose display of anyone illustrating that they;
HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE WRITING ABOUT.
Congratulations! You are exceptional.
A recent student or graduate of our fine public educational system, no doubt; probably from Cascade College in WA or a Berkley-like Liberal Arts institution.
My constitution recognizes my right to follow my G-d. Do you have a problem with that?
Question: In non-flyover country, which has abandoned the U.S. Constitution, what do you say to an Active Shooter?
Answer: It doesn’t matter, you will be shot.
Question: In flyover country, which has NOT abandoned the U.S. Constitution, what do you say to an Active Shooter?
Answer: BANG!
Question: When will the idiots in California and New York and D.C. figure this out?
Question: In either flyover or non-flyover country, what do the security teams of Governors or our President say to an Active Shooter?
Answer: Same as what a citizen can say who lives in flyover country. You see, our President and Governors are more equal than their citizens of non-flyover country. They have rights they deem are above the rights of left & right coasters.
This is not an argument, not even a screed, but a mere sentiment and an ignorant one at that.
First, the phrase “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” isn’t even in the Constitution; it’s in the Declaration of Independence.
Second, I’ll grant you that the Constitution itself is Godless, in the sense that it appeals to no authority except the states by way of the ratification process which it includes. But heretical? Metaphysically nonsensical? You’re going to have to show your work there, son.
And what would this “real property, real tradition, real dignity of life, action, or belief” you speak of as the ideal actually look like? Be specific. There are certainly vast examples of how throne-and-altar conservatism of the Bourbon and Romanov kind failed to secure justice, freedom, or prosperity for the common folk (although the nobility did quite well), and the corresponding failures of contemporary America to secure those things for the common folk owe more to Great Society liberalism than to anything the Founders devised. The Founders’ aims were not only to create a legal entity comprising sovereign states, but also to restore the long tradition of English common law going back to the Magna Carta, law which had been abrogated on these shores by the British Crown in order to suppress self-rule by the colonists and leave them defenseless.
And as much as Americans’ freedoms have been unjustly curtailed in recent decades, your claim that Russia is an improvement is simply nonsensical. True, in Russia those with money can get (or get away with) what the common folk can’t; the same is true everywhere (*cough* David Gregory *cough*). Russia defends the right to life so staunchly that for years there have been more abortions there than live births, and the population is declining.
The intellectual social and political philosophers never have propsals of viable solutions and consequences! That is not their self assigned purpose. Their sole calling is to stir the pot of their ideologies and see how many drummer pawns rise to the top to join their drum corps. You can’t have power without a sizable drummer corps. From anarchism to communism, to socialism, theocracy and democracy to what next? What all the intellectual philosophers attempt is to exert a control over independent thought for some self serving motive(s) — a common demnominator among all the government forms I listed above.
The American experiment was to free the people to be independent thinkers with individual freedoms never quite witnessed by the rest of the world. And what do we find today? Master manipulators of one little tiny cog of human nature — the weakness of many too intellectual indoctrinations.
The greatest failing of the american experiment today, is that so many have forfieted their greatest freedom — independent thought! In fact, as witnessed on so many internet social and political sites, the freedom of independent thought is grossly scorned by the drummer corps of their chosen intellectual philosophers.
The government and the constitution are not the failure in America. The people are!
Like so many others, I was not impressed with this latest poorly choreographed “last minute cliffhanger.”
Ending those two wars, cutting the deficit, cutting spending, fixing healthcare and growing the economy is what I believe the American people want. Instead, what they get is a bad acting kabookie theatre and a smoke n mirrors dog n pony show.
Where does this end? or rather, when will this end… or better yet, will this ever end?
The dog continues to chase the cat and the cat continues with fascination staring at the birds in the sky and the birds in the sky continue to fly around that sky…which is falling…only to quicken in 2013 unless there is a miracle.
“…kabookie…”
*Sigh* It’s kabuki.
SpellingNazi… sheesh,
now that is funny….
Oh by the way its “Spelling Nazi”
Yur welcum… ha !
Freedom has been devalued in the votes of the 47% and social media oriented. There has not been a conflict inside the U.S. since the Civil War that was about freedom. WWI and WWII was about freedom over there. Personal freedom-liberty has been mutated/degenerated in value to ‘anything goes’ and freedom from insecurity.
The red-blue voting map had densely populated (800 persons/sq.mile) voting for what we got in the Chavez “New Century of Socialism.” Urban people need more rules of social conduct to survive. The Cloward-Piven strategy worked too well. The tipping point of too much government fast approaches. God gives rights, men fight for freedom, and the progressive entitlement parasites have not yet discovered their limits.
I’m still wondering what Prof Seidman was smoking when he penned his screed.
Sounds like something a 1st year wrote as a “what if” piece.
Is it was not something I had come to expect over the years I would be astonished that anyone would be willing to put their NAME on such a piece of dreck–its can’t even remain conistant with its OWN internal logic.
My fav is this:
“what has preserved our political stablity is not a poetic piece of paper but entenched insitituions, habits of thought and……we are one nation”
And the “professor” can’t see that having a enduring Constitution is the foundation of said “entrenced institutions”, “habits of thought” etc?
Without such a stable piece of “poetic paper” then none of the rest would have been possible.
He also seemingly overlooks the fundemental nature of the docuement–you can CHANGE it at anytime you wish–provided you have the votes of course.
I’d love to get the guy in front of a camera and ask him about all the things that stem from the document–such as a Supreme Court–if we accept his premise that we are “shackeld” by said document then why should we allow 5 out 9 UNELECTED people in black robes deciding for the 300 milion people what is “legal” and “illegal?”
Love to hear his arguments about the legality of abortion OUTSIDE of its Consitutional legality.
Like I said, the argument is dreck—in any rational context its dreck and rational, educated people should be deeply shamed by having thier name on it—again, sounds like a 1st year.
VDH: the voice of sanity in an increasingly crass and insane world.
I wish people like him could win an election. These days, it’s nearly always hucksters that run for office — or, at least, win. I’m not talking about Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney, both good men. But they lost.
I had a lefty tell me in all seriousness today that Republicans are bad because they stand in the way of unlimited taxing and spending… which evidently is the new *new* definition of “progress”.
What… what can you possibly say in the face of this almost unfathomable ignorance and greed?
Everytime I think I’m done mourning for this country, something like this brings up the grief once again.
Hatred dripping off every word — every syllable you utter in absolute self confidence, the central idea of every sentence seems to be this: you should hate Obama because of __________.
Hate is a spiritual reality, spread by men of extreme self confidence, who espouse easy answers, but more, always give you people to blame for problems, real and imagined.
Hate? The hate I see comes from the left. Dragging people behind cars, eco commercials wherein the kids who don’t think “correctly” are blown up, and on and on and on. From the right I see mainly dismay. Of course, what you are really implying is that favorite self-denfense of the left: racism. Heaven forfend we should judge a man on his actions. But that ultimately is the root core of the problem facing our country: an abdication of responsibility for ones actions.
@ Mark – You see hate where there is none, yet refuse to see it where it is. Try perusing the HuffPo or Kos for regular calls, both implicit and explicit, to violence against those who don’t share the Left’s narrative. The article is sober and controlled compared to the constitution-shredding, violence-prone Leftists he writes about, which you apparently have no problem with and/or are in agreement with. “Hate…spread by men of extreme self confidence, who espouse easy answers, but more, always give you people to blame for problems, real and imagined.” How ironic that you admonish perceived hatred for Obama, yet describe him perfectly in your last sentence.
Both sides are ‘spewing the hatred.’ They doing in a way you don’t see anywhere else except before right before a war.
More about that, here:
http://standupforamerica.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/guest-commentary-the-rise-of-extremism/
That wil be the only thing that will get it out of your systems, sadly enough.
Once you’re both sick of the death and destruction you’ll both bring down on all of our heads …is when it will stop…and only then.
I do have great hope for what lies on the other side of this madness that will soon comsume us all. My research tells me that it should be very nice for a freeedom-lovin’ fool like myself. Survivng until then is the only trick.
I note that your commentary is four years old, O Steely Bone!
The crew in the white house are less intelligent, less competent and less ruthless than the politburo of the USSR were. When the easy times are over and there is some personal risk , they will leave ,just as the soviet rulers did ,looting on their way . The federal goverment may well end just the way the USSR did. We outspent the USSR and Obama is outspending the capacity of the dollar .
Very good. First, we outspent Moscow,now we outspend ourselves. It appears we have learned something from history.
VDH is right. These leftists are nuts and they feel empowered.
I am a Southerner. As I watch as most other states (and even our fringes) succumb to the valueless, anti-Western drivel that Hollywood and public schools have passed off as “enlightenment” for decades, I see an end to this Union, which has outlasted its usefulness. The Union will end as it implodes in its fiscal incontinence.
I am a Southerner as well.
We’re watching, and waiting.
It is interesting to see how the other states have become dominated by this fanaticism and how we have, so far, withstood it.
You mention that our rivals are shrinking demgraphically…Yes, but China is working with 1.3 billion to our 330 million or so…The BRIC countries have a couple of billion workers to our 180 million. So, I’d say there is no help demographically speaking to the economic competition we face. More, I would say that we and Europe are facing a demographic Tsunami as these two billion workers all work for pennies on the dollar relative to Americans…American and European workers will be under relentless pressure to maintain what they have as so many others abroad will gladly do their jobs for less. Nothing new here. This has been going on for decades already. My hope would be that the United States could become like Switzerland or some other small nation and ride out the tectonic economic shifts in the world while maintaining a high standard of living…But alas, I don’t see that outcome. Our leadership in Washington and around the country are spendthrifts where the Swiss are thrifty. They are demagogues hell bent on keeping power at whatever costs while the Swiss are led by the rational. The Swiss have had centuries of practice at doing things the right way or else as they have been surrounded by powerful neighbors…I’m afraid that our leadership and our people have no such tradition. No, I don’t see Americans following a rational path as witnessed by our recent election. We chose to re-elect a demagogue instead of a man with perhaps the best credentials ever to manage this nation’s economy…I see no help on the horizon only a long painful decline in our standard of living. We will become California. Horrendously expensive with enormous strain on the middle class and a large underclass who ulitmately tilt elections to those who keep the dollars coming their way, whatever the costs to the nation.
Very well said, and true.
I wonder if Judis would be good enough to tell us how many more billions we will need to spend to make health care “affordable.” Or how large government will need to grow and what share of GDP it will need to spend to at long last make public education “quality” education.
It’s interesting that he talks about raising taxes on income and wealth. I would dearly love to see a serious movement in Congress to start taxing wealth and net worth. The ensuing brouhaha would be entertaining indeed.
A Constitutional Law Professor who takes his student’s money and then teaches them that the Constitution is an outdated and stifling document written by men so evil they’d be universally condemned today as criminals against humanity?
If that’s not ‘evil’ I don’t know what is. At least the serpent didn’t make Eve take out a loan to pay for the apple.
And Not A Shot Is Fired. History doesn’t repeat itself but it sure does rhyme.
“possible for America too, if only we would just junk that evil Constitution.”
Now that there comment is funnay! The only people living in that phobia is the ‘tantrum club’ of the GOP. Some people dressed up funny, carried funny signs and made phobia speeches, pointed their fingers and got a ‘few’ million uummmm — people of the GOP — to follow along and beat their drums for them.
Their mantra was all about the constitution being trashed by the tyrannicals ‘voted’ into office. Stop and think about that kind of radically flawed logic!
People register to vote across the land. People go to the polls in all the districts across the land and cast their votes for the candidates of their choice from each party so designated by the candidates. Pretty constitutional so far, eh?
The candidates who win their elections by a majority vote go trotting off too Washington. There, they join the house elected to by the people. Then, they learn the rules and procedures of the appropriate house elected to. Then, they get a refresher course in their constitutional authorities and mandates. Then they set about conducting the business of their houses. Pretty constitutional still, eh? Oh, Wait! They learn how the founders came together to debate the many issues of constructing a constitution and through that debate a ‘majority’ consensus was arrived through compromise for the benefit of the constitutions finality. Geesh! Can you believe thats the process of congress today too?
To many people today have little respect for the process(es) of the constitution mandated upon congress. To many people forget, probably intentional to their cause(s) that, there are checks and balances designed into the constitution making all this current rant about the trashing of the constitution complete idiocy.
The constitution is quite well. The electoral process is quite well. The representation by majority of the voting disricts across the land are quite well. The functioning of the congress and the other two branches are quite well. What is NOT well is some of the nations citizens. These people, besides being of poor sportsmanship, are seriously indocrinated into the phobia movements leaders club as drummers.
The nation becomes what the ‘majority’ more consistantly votes for in selecting their candidates and the candidates platform issues.
LOOK, LOOK — THE SKY IS FALLING!
Is English your first language?
Thanks for asking Gayle. No tongues is my first language! You have anymore really, really stupid question for me?
You in a nutshell: democracy equals liberty, DERP!
Oh, I love the game of projection that you and your leftist fellow travelers come here to engage. Classic Alinsky!
What is NOT well is some of the nations citizens.
What do you plan to do about it, Comrade?
“What do you plan to do about it, Comrade?”
Well, Comrade Dworkin, lets see now. There is little one can do to correct for intellectual ignorance — use to refer to them as the educated morons. There is little one can do to correct intellectual arrogance. There is little one can do to correct intellectual hypocrisy.
The constitution granted to the people the freedoms to control their own individual destiny. The same constitution granted to the people, the freedoms to control the destiny of this nation by a majority electoral and representative process.
Seems, you comrade, and many like you, have little to no respect for the constitutional freedoms granted each of us — because the majority outcomes disagree with you and your friends who suffer the infirmities I listed above.
when you have a craven agenda driven media, questionable election result integrity, much rule by fiat via executive orders,fraud and deception in the finances of the nation, it’s not the cheery little sixth grade American government video you make it out to be. In reality we have stark choices ahead and half of the population convinced we’re on a suicidal path. A whole lot of the population is abysmally ignorant of cause and effect.
So smile on Zeke, your boy won and he owns this now. We’ll see what the future holds.
C’mon, democracy has almost always been VERY messy. Hey, would that the South had bitten the bullet and let democracy take its messy course. But they didn’t and that is part of our history.
I agree with Zeke to the extent that people are simply NOT keeping current events in anything close to a proper HISTORICAL context. Either they don’t know the history or just need to vent. As usual, I find that those often quoting the Founders know a few quotations which resonate with their own views, but don’t know (or choose to ignore) all the messiness which surrounded the Founders and every political scene from then on. From my perspective, when you start muttering about civil war, you have stopped being a player and become a grumbler. Change usually comes with a 1% gain here, a 1% loss there. Many here are disgusted with that “game,” but most of the time, that is how things work.
On the other hand, the comment that Obama now owns this mess IS a practical response. Odds are that he will experience the Second term decline and malaise of almost all recent Presidents. The system is self-correcting, but, admittedly, always producing bigger government. The lefties will always raise social services and the righties will always raise defense and here we are.
At our founding, taxation without representation was thought to be unjust. Today we know that representation without taxation is too.
Good line; I will have to remember that one.
We should not surprised that The Constitution is under attack. Under Sharia Law the First Amendment is illegal. What is being done today is laying the groundwork for tomorrow. The attack on The Constitution is part of the war against the United States. The Islamists have learned what they cannot do on the battle field they can do by other means.
The Constitution and our fealty towards it is our North Star. Our freedom will be lost once we no longer look to it for guidance. Professor Seidman is guilty as hell and free as a bird if the charge is domestic enemy of America.
“Welcome to Very, Very Scary Times”
Isn’t that pretty much what partisans always say? Like, ALL the time?
There’s always something, somewhere that the political myopic doesn’t like, and it’s always the greatest threat to peace and democracy in living memory.
“Isn’t that pretty much what partisans always say?” I’ve read VDH for years and rarely has he ever said that, so no, I doubt very much he is some fiendish “partisan,” but more a lucid observer of reality. There were those in the 1930s who gave similar warnings about Germany, or were they just “partisans” and politically myopic because of something they “didn’t like”?
Since our government is essentially not our elected officials, or the office buildings and other acutrements necessary for their governing operation, but is our law – our Constitution – I fail to understand why any public call, much less instruction from a law professor in a classroom, isn’t treason. If, in an airport, anyone even joked about taking over an airplane, they would be arrested – “It’s no joking matter. It must be taken as a serious threat,” would be the response. Why isn’t taking over the government and killing officials who disagree with one’s political dogma taken as a serious threat? Does freedom of speech actually extend that far? Apparently it does, because it’s allowed to, but should it? Our nation is founded on and grounded in capitalism, never mind all the statism/socialism that has infiltrated and crippled it. Socialism and communism, other than as topics for student discussion, comparison/contrast thought, should never have been allowed to be taught in American schools and universities either, much less taught by those who hate it. What sort of national suicide wish ever prompted it to be allowed? Do we need law professors dictating, teaching our children, which parts of our government are to be disallowed? I don’t think so!
C. S. Lewis, paraphrased, once wrote that if you don’t like science fiction, don’t read it, but don’t write a critical review of any genre, unless you love the genre because you’re ill-equipped to judge the work. I would suggest the same is true of our Constitution. As Dr. Hanson essentially wrote: there are boats and planes leaving every day for those countries anti-American law professors and any others find so admirable. Nobody is forced to be an American citizen. There is a screw loose somewhere in the heads of those who want to live in prosperity and freedom, but want everyone else to lose it, by forcing them to provide it for them. If you feel claustraphobic in forests, stay out of them. Don’t saw down all the trees: go live in the desert, by the ocean, or plaines.
I guess that since they can’t hate Bush anymore because they know it won’t work; they’re turning to the COTUS as the next object of their attack. It isn’t Bush’s fault anymore. Now it will be the Constitution’s fault. Scary, yes.
So Mr. Seidman wants us to collectively kick the constitutional habit? Let’s start by firing all constitutional law professors, with Mr. Seidman the first to go.
This reminds me of the bioethicists, the Very Smart Guys who are always the first to call for the murder of the handicapped, elderly and otherwise infirm members of society that have a difficult time taking care of themselves, a decidedly unethical thing to do. Perhaps the title Constitutional Law Professor likewise means the opposite these days also. Funny how all these bozi (multiple bozos) are all screaming leftists. Not. Cheers -
Like the Bible (Specificly the Cross 1 Corinthians 1:18), the Constitution is “foolishness to those who are perishing”. Humanism has replaced Christianity as the new norm so communal requirements has replaced individual responsibility.
Rule Of Law? Who needs it when someone like Bam-Bam is in charge!
There are two paths. Enough Americans voted for Occupy. We’re through the looking glass already.
http://theconmom.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/1164/
#WAR
When does Dr VDh realize that nothing he says makes much of a difference. But he says it so well. Has he ever proposed any action ? Too difficult I suppose.
VDH and most of the writers here choose to dramatize our current plight because…well, I suppose life would get boring for old farts sitting around licking their wounds from their latest defeat without a lot of “this is the worst ever” talk.
VDH purports to be shocked by Seidman, but in 1996, Daniel Lazare wrote a book called “The Frozen Republic,” which went over much of the same ground, but in a more comprehensive fashion. Please, this is all political soap opera, and just as a segment of the masses love soap opera, elements of the left and right love to chatter, mutter, or threaten in their own particular styles. The left will tell you that never has so much income been concentrated in the mitts of so few, blah, blah and the right will go on and on about secession and wet dreams about another Civil War.
I am worried about us going broke, but much of the rest of the chatter above is just people who need to get something off their chests, letting their imaginations run wild as in “my nightmare scenario is more creative (or goofy) than yours.
Just for kicks, make a list of the top ten crises that the American Republic has faced and then make the case that our current plight would get onto the list. Could our events today stand up even to, let’s say, Shay’s Rebellion? But not to worry, we can all PRETEND that these are the worst times ever. ;-)
I suppose that the pretending is harmless,except for the fact that it keeps us from concentrating on the boring numbers: MATH as some recent PJM column pointed out. I loved the fact that there was some spouting on FOX last night on the outrage of the 10% increase in the Social Security tax. What could be more appropriate than making the system come closer to paying for itself? Never mind; it is a tax, and taxes are BAD. Both parties bribe the middle class and tell them how they can get all this stuff without being taxed. The left claims to be concerned that the poor middle has been pillaged by the 1% and the right is afraid that more taxes from the middle actually would pay for government programs and that they couldn’t use the “we will go broke” argument. But then history reminds us that politics is (among other things) the art of shamelessly bribing (or scaring) people and to get their vote.
And cheer up, never in the history of the Republic have so many guns been in the hands of so many private citizens; in fact, you might say that we are in a gun bubble. Oops, some crazy lefty just said that guns should be banned. I think that I will go out and buy a few more.
Seidman apparently forgets that the men who drafted the Constitution built in a process of change. We are not bound by anything but our collective will. But Seidman isn’t interested in the will of the people, is he?
A few minutes with of looking at comparative stats should disabuse anybody of the notion that right-to-work states are worker’s paradises. 9 out of 10 of the lowest median wage states are in the South. Southern states can’t even compete with rust best states. For example:
Median wage (2006)
Michigan $47,064
Mississippi $35,261
The notion that unions somehow busted the economies of the North-central states is not an argument. It’s an assertion. I could just as well claim that Germany’s lasting prosperity is a consequence of the fact that unions there are far stronger than they are in the U.S.
Mr. Harrison, $35,261 will get you a lot more in goods and services in Mississippi than $47,064 will get you in Michigan. In the “9 of 10″ Southern states the cost of living is not nearly as much as it is in the “rust best states.”
Ya, please tell us about how wonderful those unions were for auto manufacturing in the north.
Ya know, the ones where most American cars arent so American any more vs Toyota flourishing in the South.
Or even better, why doncha lay out why all those not so right to work union states have the WORST employment in the union.
Who here would rather be unemployed living high on the welfare is freedom hog in them high cost of living bastions vs living pretty decently in Miss on $35K?
And you don’t need as much money to live in Mississippi as you would in Michigan because you won’t live as long.
Life expectancy (2010-2011)
Michigan 77.9
Mississippi 74.8
Norm life expectancy in MS, or any Southern state, for race and you’ll find it it is the Democrats who live less long.
Life expectancy 2007 (whites only)
Michigan 78.8
Mississippi 76.1
U.S. 78.7
LMAO! And if we implement your marxian wet dreams none of us will need to make much because you people LOOOOVE to round people you disagree with up and murder them.
What the hell is your point Alinsky – we should all move to your socialist utopia so we can live longer as slaves?
Where Mississippi is at question, I don’t think it’s very advisable to bring up slavery since that states used to feature the real McCoy.
alrighty, by your logic you shouldn’t be nor defend a democrat since that was their institution.
Where’s Detroit?
It is only due to thinly veiled racism that the name “De Troit” continues to oppress the community.
It should be called Colemantown Youngsbabwe
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Here are some sobering facts—
It is about the economy.
And, the economy starts and ends with the REAL life of every person, summed up in all the “leading indicators” we love to put so much attention, and worry, on.
Check out these All American facts—
The average citizen consumes:
170 pounds of white sugar a year.
400 candy bars a year.
500 donuts a year.
300 Soda pop drinks a year.
Over a lifetime, they consume:
12 cows, weighing 3,000 pounds each.
6 pigs.
3,000 chickens
3,000 sea creatures.
30,000 quarts of milk.
2,000 gallons of alcohol.
30,000 aspirin type pills.
20,000 prescribed pills.
The average America has 2 to 4 bowel movements a week, which means they are about 170,000 short, compared to someone who eats a healthy diet.
Conclusion—people are, LITERALLY, full of it!
“It” is about the economy—and, most individuals are choosing to be IT. I left off the first 2 letters, s and h.
Source? Also define “average citizen.”
My source is Dr. Richard Schulze. He’s at herbdoc.com.
“The average America has 2 to 4 bowel movements a week…”
I just cannot imagine being afflicted by such a thing. If true, no small wonder colorectal cancer is so common.
Nor is there much philosophical worry that giving people massive subsidies destroys individualism, the work ethic, and the personal sense of accomplishment.
Victor, this is a goal of the socialists. It makes total control of society, a la Plato’s Guardians, achievable. But you know that of course :-)
There is gonna be a reckoning soon. Arm yourselves.
The left has been relentless in its pursuit of power and now dominates the nation even as it destroys it. Conservatives must embrace the tactics of the left in order to save it.
http://www.exodusmd.com/blog/taking-back-the-country
Check out blog at website exodusmd.com
The left has been at this for a hundred years. We ceded the country to them. They are now the colossus astride the continent. But roughly 48.5% of the country agrees with us. It is not lost yet…
The left has been relentless in its pursuit of power and now dominates the nation even as it destroys it. Conservatives must embrace the tactics of the left in order to save it.
http://www.exodusmd.com/blog/taking-back-the-country
The left has been at it for a hundred years. We have ceded the nation to them. They are now the colossus astride the continent. Yet 48% of the country agrees with us. It is not too late…
Now that i am worried and frightened will someone lead me to safety?
All that seems certain is that we must stand with our One True Friend and Ally,AIPAC.
How did Detroit go from one of the most remarkable cities in the world – when it was all white – to, well, the Detroit of today? Thomas Sowell and other conservatives would have you believe it was all about liberal policies and socialism, yet those same policies have helped a country like Norway flourish. Innovation and entrepreneurial activities are commonplace in Norway, similar to the commonplace high rates of illiteracy, corruption among the elected officials, and crime found in Detroit.
The Constitution is so evil that it allows dirty villeins and serfs to have due process, equal treatment before the law, to speak freely, and to own weapons. It is so low brow that it bars the government from granting proper titles of nobility and knighthood to our betters! After all, civilized societies must have a high-born nobility that is above the common rabble.
/channeling antigun David Gregory.
Always thought-provoking piece by VDH.
I’d like to post a few quick thoughts, having read Prof. Seidman’s NYT Op-Ed.
“The American system of government is broken”: Having engaged in almost 50 years of sustained and expanding ‘deconstruction’ and undermining of America’s political and cultural structures, Seidman now discovers – with the (so-called) liberals – that the system is broken.
“Why does a grotesquely malapportioned Senate get to decide the nation’s fate?”: The Senate was designed structurally to provide a counter-weight to the House. The concept is that of the sailing ship: the ballast of hull and keel balances the movement-inducing sails in a dynamic but constructive tension. Otherwise you either have stasis or you have the ship blowing itself over.
But ‘revolutionaries’ place great stock in whipping up ‘the masses’, manipulating them to follow the New Order to a huge ‘liberation’ ; a Senate (properly functioning by responsible adults) would only get in the revolution’s way (the Bolsheviks didn’t keep the Duma once they had taken power by overthrowing (not the Tsar but) the government of the Duma under Kerensky). Why, for that matter, have a structure or a secure process at all? Just let the government do what it thinks best, staffed by the knowledge-elites (American Progressivism) or the Party-elites (commissars). And since a government so constituted is doing everything FOR the people’s good (though the masses are too benighted to know what’s good for them) and since a government so constituted is doing everything WITH such a good intention, then the government cannot ever be obstructed, limited, boundaried, or contradicted. That’s where Seidman will wind up, whether he realizes it or not.
“Instead of arguing about what is to be done, we argue about what James Madison might have wanted done 225 years ago”: The first principles Madison grasped are the same now as they were then. Today’s new ‘insights’ are merely ‘new’ because they are the revolutionary insights of Marxism-Leninism, channeled through Gramsci and Alinsky and a wad of Eurocommunist thought of the postwar era, injected like a plague-bacillus here in the past 50 or so years by radical-feminiss’ scarfing of that school of thought. It’s ‘new’ to the United States only because the Framers worked so hard to prevent happening here what was happening in revolutionary Jacobin France (which ended with Napoleon’s imperial take-over). Thus too “our obsession” with the Constitution is nothing but a sleazy and treacherous psychologizing-away of any loyalty to the first-principles of the Framing Vision, which constitute the true ‘genius’ of the American Experiment.
“As someone who has taught constitutional law for almost 40 years, I am ashamed it took me so long to see how bizarre all this is”: So a presumably educated professor of Constitutional law took 40 years to suddenly realize all the problems with the Constitution? The man is either an incompetent in his chosen field or else he is merely posturing to surf a current wave of political trendiness and Correctness (‘Correctness’ itself being a Marxist-Leninist concept and term).
“[A] group of white propertied men who have been dead for two centuries, knew nothing of our present situation”: What of first-principles did they not know then that certain self-styled elites claim to know now? Just because they didn’t imagine 747s and mass-societies, did the not know about the fundamental human dynamics that drive all human politics?
“[A]nd thought it was fine to own slaves”: only (some of) the Southerners thought so. The awful Offer That Couldn’t Be Refused posed by the Southerners was: either an America with slavery or no America at all. But the Framers built into the Constitution a 20-year period (until 1808) during which there would be no legislation against slavery by the national government. The implication – clear as a warning bell – was that after 1808 all bets were off. The Framers made this stipulation about no other political and cultural reality in American society and its polity. Had the Framers adopted an ‘abolitionist’ stance, there would have been no country in the first place .
“Constitutional disobedience may seem radical, but it is as old as the Republic”: The Framers were seeking to serve the first-principles of the Framing Vision while today’s revolutionary-liberals – grounded in and motivated by Leninist and Gramscian Content and Method – are, as Seidman says, seeking to get rid of the Constitution. There is a pro-Constitutional ‘disobedience’ and an anti-Constitutional ‘disobedience’.
“No sooner was the Constitution in place than our leaders began ignoring it”: Which precisely demonstrated the utter need for the Constitution and the Framing Vision’s first-principles. And current ‘liberal’ national-security laws are hardly better than the (soon rejected) Alien and Sedition Acts.
And Jefferson’s Purchase quickly proved itself to be a boon to the nation. After almost 50 years, can we say that what has been done has proven more a boon than a lethal undermining of the nation’s principles and the Framing Vision? (Also: Referring to his Purchase, Jefferson himself used the image of acting as a parent for children who didn’t know what was in their best interests. This is the elitist approach that now informs the ‘liberal’ programme – grounded in the presumption that since most of the voters ‘just don’t get it’, then why listen to them anyway in the first place?)
“In his Constitution Day speech in 1937, Franklin D. Roosevelt professed devotion to the document, but as a statement of aspirations rather than obligations”: If the Constitution’s first principles and the Framing Vision are optional – which is what Seidman is saying for all practical purposes – then what solid Ground is there under the American polity of limited government and government BY the People at all? The liberal-elites have now reached a point where they, like the Soviets from whom so much of their ‘philosophy’ is drawn, are governing IN THE NAME OF the voters (hardly any longer characterizable as The People) and FOR THEIR OWN GOOD.
“In the face of this long history of disobedience, it is hard to take seriously the claim by the Constitution’s defenders that we would be reduced to a Hobbesian state of nature if we asserted our freedom from this ancient text”: And are we not seeing the Hobbesian reality reasserting itself today, in both private and public (government) behavior?
“Our sometimes flagrant disregard of the Constitution has not produced chaos or totalitarianism; on the contrary, it has helped us to grow and prosper” [boldface mine]: Is this man talking about the same America we know today? From where we were 50 years ago, is this man claiming that things have gotten better?
“This is not to say that we should disobey all constitutional commands”: But now on what grounds can he assert any ‘should’ at all? And what gives his ‘should’ any more authority than anybody else’s ‘should’? The Ground underneath any authoritative Vision has been deconstructed-away, and it all comes down to whatever surges of fancy and emotion can be drummed-up among ‘the masses’ or whatever new excitements and illuminations capture the attention of the elites. Both the Grounds and the Bounds pertaining to the government power have been eliminated. Thus in his next paragraph all of his ‘nor-s’ are left hanging in the air with no authority whatsoever except on the basis of what I just mentioned.
“What would change is not the existence of these institutions, but the basis on which they claim legitimacy”: A base of Jello is no base at all. And these institutions would lose all legitimacy except that which can be manipulated, enforced by government coercion, or imposed by fiat-laws (enacted, of course, for the people’s own good and in their name).
“Congress might well retain the power of the purse, but this power would have to be defended on contemporary policy grounds, not abstruse constitutional doctrine” [italics mine]: This epithet – abstruse – is precisely one that was bruited by Catherine MacKinnon (feminist law professor) in her 1989 summa and how-we-did-it victory-lap book Toward A Feminist Theory of the State: reason and logic is so ‘male’ and ‘patriarchal’ and we must now be guided by female ‘intuition’ and emotion instead (did she realize what she was saying?). Has Seidman just gotten around to reading her book? Or has her theorizing become so unthinkingly accepted among the elites that Seidman thinks he is coming up with something fresh and new?
“The deep-seated fear that such disobedience would unravel our social fabric is mere superstition”: Given our current fractalized polity – claimed to be a good and necessary result of Identity Politics – can this assertion by credible at all? And the bit about “superstition” may well be applied to the ideological dampdreams of the small-c ‘communist’ theorizing of the past 50 or so years. Recall as well that Identity Politics has no use for a “deliberative democratic politics” (Chantal Mouffe).
“What has preserved our political stability is not a poetic piece of parchment, but entrenched institutions and habits of thought and, most important, the sense that we are one nation and must work out our differences”: But these institutions are precisely the ones that have been assaulted, undermined, and ‘de-valorized’ for the past 50 years in the service of that Identity Politics and the rest of the cutting-edge ‘revolutions’ embraced (for demographic purposes) by the Dems and then by the whole Beltway.
“No one can predict in detail what our system of government would look like if we freed ourselves from the shackles of constitutional obligation, and I harbor no illusions that any of this will happen soon”: And what are we to do for first-principles in the meantime? Wait like Micawber for “something to turn up”? Or stagger on in the sure and certain knowledge that – given enough time and an endlessly receding horizon – the pandemonium of a million liberated monkeys will bang-out a new set of first-principles like they hypothetically will also be doing with one of Shakespeare’s plays? We are afloat on a darkling berg-strewn sea right now, the great Ship is in dire need of course and watertight structural integrity – and we are being advised to wait and see what amusing excitements might come along eventually at some point as yet to be determined by processes as yet uncertainly described?
“If we are not to abandon constitutionalism entirely, then we might at least understand it as a place for discussion, a demand that we make a good-faith effort to understand the views of others, rather than as a tool to force others to give up their moral and political judgments”: In the first place, the revolutionary (Lenin, Gramsci, Alinsky) Method is precisely not to let things take their course but indeed to force them through the impositions of self-proclaimed trail-bossing elites upon the cattle-like masses. And in the second place ,”good faith” doesn’t enter into it when you are talking about Leninist, Gramscian, Alinskyite maneuvering and manipulating.
“If even this change is impossible, perhaps the dream of a country ruled by “We the people” is impossibly utopian. If so, we have to give up on the claim that we are a self-governing people who can settle our disagreements through mature and tolerant debate”: First, we see here “the dream”: rather than clear and well-reasoned policy proposals we are invited – like kids before Christmas – to imagine what we might like to see and what might turn up under the tree for us. This is a form of treacherous manipulation masquerading as sensitive and hopeful politics. Second, ‘revolutionary’ Method does not allow for debate whatsoever (why argue with people who ‘just don’t get it’ in the first place anyway?).
“[W]e ought to try extricating ourselves from constitutional bondage so that we can give real freedom a chance”: Well, it’s been 50 years of this approach. Are things better for the country? Or is he making the GW Bush plea that the Plan was good, it just hasn’t been fully Implemented yet? Dangling yet another bale of hay in front of the cattle-like masses (in the Framing Vision: The People) and promising that if not this Christmas, then next Christmas fer shure. How many more Christmases, how many more ‘four more years’ cards do We The People have left to play?
For a constitutional scholar, Mr. Seidman does not seem to understand the source of political power. Governments do in fact exist by consent of the people. We are the ones who make and do while it lives off of us. Being rid of the Constitution will not free Barack Obama and the Left to do whatever they want. Instead, it will mean we have no good reason to put up with them any more. Their hubris has led them falsely to believe the power they have is their own.
SO–The estimable Mr. Seidman wants to ignore certain parts of our Constitution? For himself, or for the plebes and peasants?
So–Searches and seizures now longer prohibited? A Congress or “President” declares the “fourth” to be limited to what they or he (she) determines.
Some entity, Congress, The Administration, the Supreme Court will henceforth determine whether the Constitution applies to a given case or person?
SO–forced confessions, truncheons, double or triple jeopardy are approved and acceptable??
No impartial jury trials or speedy procedures??
Excessive (present definition) bale is OK. Cruel or unusual punishment (current definitions) is OK if some judge determines it as needed.
AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, NO term limits for Presidents; Obama or Hillary could be “elected” President for Life, avoiding the complications of change of Administrations.
Seems to me, that such as above is what the “old, white, slave holding,” men (NO women) were fighting against in our War of Independence, or am I missing something??????
And—-could some “justified, limited” form of slavery be approved and established???
@Art Chance
“…other than a lot of the oil you parasites in the Blue States use originates in LA and TX and is transported in pipelines that originate in Red States; don’t think we wouldn’t shut them off.”
Other than a second rate comedian, you assume you know far kmore than you actually do! That said, I was glad you recognized that ‘today’ is not close to resembling the distant past you related to. You assume you know the energy distribution systems across the land but your commenting idicates otherwise. You again assume, you know the petroleum and natural gas orgins and thier capacities and that they’re limited largely to TX, LA and AK. Nothing could be more wrong from more than a couple of reality checks. Were you possibly thinking of refineries and their capacities on a national scale? Even in this instance, only a slight investment in the West, North and East would take care of that problem. Doesn’t take long to throw up and EPA approved moonshine still. Being a native ‘okie’ with family land holdings well up there today, with oil and gas, and having chosen to make my physical retirement residence in the deep south for many years and, married for decades to a native ‘deep southern’ wife, I’m pretty familiar with the agri, engery and distribution economies relative to them. Likewise, during my career days, I traveled, lived and worked across the land. My cousin was a geophysicist with Amerada GRC seismic oil exploration company out of Tulsa, Ok from just after WWII to the mid 70s developing oil fields in the south, and around the globe. If you think the coasts of the West and East and the inland north are void of oil and natural gas resources, you’re very foolish and uninformed. The nation can well survive without the resources of TX, LA, AK or other plains states for any resources necessary to industry, commerce and life sustainment. That said, such states to include the plains states and other southern states, will NEVER secede from the Republic. Such thought, is yet more delusion and fantasy by you folks!
@ VDH
“Militarily, the United States is light years ahead of its rivals. And so on…”
May I ask of you to recall the numbers of troops killed and maimed in Korea without a clear victory? May I ask you to recall how many were killed and maimed in Vietnam without a clear victory? May I ask of you to reacall how many have been killed and mained over the past 12 years in Iraq and in the case of Afghanistan, a withdrawal without a clear victory?
The better technology in these times of non convential warfare doesn’t always equate to victory — now does it?
You speak too an aging China population. With a population of 1,339,724,852 and 25% of China’s population on target too be age 65 or older by the year 2040 and current over age 60 is only 13.3%, I’m not sure you’re looking at the numbers correctly in relationship to your intended point. Their growth ‘potential’ economically is largely unrealized but on a relatively steady path. Their growth in regards to a very high techonlogical advanced military is likewise, in its infancy and notwithstanding a complete global economic melt down, they are in a fine position to be able to afford such technological military advances while ours will be forced at some point to be greatly diminished.
Well said. May I assume that the switch in the spelling of Mr. Judis’ name to “Judas” was intentional? Nice touch.
The 2nd. amendment is gun control. Those who wish to do away with the 2nd, are the biggest fools in America and they don’t even know how stupid they are. Think of the country with the stricture of total weapons control and have this country go to civil war and I can guaranty weapons will freely flow into this once total weapons controlled country. The Seidman’s of this country don’t even know what their asking for, when they want total weapons ban and 2nd repealed and that the Constitution is outdated, what fools do they be. With so much wealth in the hands of the American people what sort of weapons would be bought that flow through our pour-est boards and coast lines, it won’t be 44′s, 38′s, AR15′s it will be weapons of war AK47′s, M16′s and the like, you name it. This is why I say the 2nd is weapons control, you take it away no more control. There be fools out there.
Fix your damn page. I am so sick of webmasters who are to busy playing video games or pulling their puds to maintain their websites. I am old and retired, and I also have a 1 3 year old grandson, so if you need some help, let me know. I have the time, and so does he. No charge.
I agree with VDH that Marxists think of equality as equality of outcomes, not equality of opportunity, but to call the Marxists and their progeny “materialists” is wrong. “Dialectical materialism” is not the same as the “mechanical materialism” that Marx and many social democrats opposed. I wrote about their putdown of the citizen-individual here: http://clarespark.com/2013/01/02/culture-warriors-and-the-enlightenment/.