Too Few Oppressors, Too Many Victims
Not Telling the Whole Truth and Nothing but …
Some House Democrats are alleging that reservations voiced about a potential nomination of Susan Rice as secretary of State are both racist and sexist — and do not concern the fact that on five consecutive occasions she misled the nation about the nature of the Benghazi murders of four Americans (peddling an improbable story, which both the CIA and the president of the United States were, at least now and then, on record denying).
But stop and ponder the charges of prejudice. We have not seen a proverbial white male secretary of State since the inept Warren Christopher stepped down over a decade and a half ago. How could a sexist and racist country nominate and confirm a Madeleine Albright, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, and Hillary Clinton as consecutive secretaries? Maybe such accusers confused State with the white-male-only office of attorney general? But no — there we have seen Janet Reno, Alberto Gonzales, and Eric Holder. I don’t recall these congresswomen alleging racism when white males in Congress tore into Alberto Gonzales and forced him to step down from the office of attorney general.
The New Wars
We talk about a war on women. But a majority of college graduates are now female. Most fathers know that it is easier for their college-educated daughters to find good jobs than it is for their sons. When I advised graduating seniors about professional schools, it was common knowledge that the white male, A-student from Tulare was out of luck, in a way my Asian, black, Latino, or white women students were not. Stranger still was the notion of affirmative action musical chairs (as in don’t dare leave your seat) — the white liberal guys that came up through the old-boy network were exempt from the ramifications of their own ideology.
If one truly believes in affirmative action, could not a white male, after, say, 20 years of tenure, step aside from a senior post to let someone of a different gender or race have a turn? Would that be to pay your fair share? Did you really build that professorship, that movie career, that law firm? Cannot a Chris Matthews at last call it quits and move over for those who did not have his contacts, power marriage, and insider pull? At some point in your life, haven’t you accrued enough privilege?
We Are All Minorities Now
Are there any minorities in California? In fact, everyone here is a minority. In my town, Latinos are the vast majority, as they are now in most San Joaquin Valley schools and colleges. Are they “overrepresented” here or at CSU Fresno? Should we have busing to achieve proportional “diversity” at the local grammar school two miles away that is 99% of one ethnic grouping?
Are Asians “overrepresented” at UC Berkeley — or are the 20% of the student body who are white males the ruling establishment? Are blacks “overrepresented” at the U.S. Postal Service, but “underrepresented” at the DMV? Such are the absurd questions that arise in a tribal society where one’s primary allegiances are not to universal values or collective traditions and customs, but are first pledged to those who look most like oneself.
So many wars Barack Obama has waged — young women against anti-abortionist old white men, Latinos against nativist old white men, blacks against racist old white men, Asians against stereotyping old white men. But, President Obama, will there still be enough oppressors from such a fading group for so many victims? Old white men are also apparently at war with young white men. And bad, right-wing old white men are also at war with good, liberal old white men? And also at war with old white (but good) gay men?
Again, are there enough conservative old white men to go around any more? If we lose half our oppressors by the nature of their gender, we are left with only 160 million or so suspect males. Then we must exempt another 30% as minority males (to the extent anyone is so easily stereotyped in an intermarried and integrated society).
Politically speaking, “Divide et impera.” The long term effects are not an after thought.
Being a “legitimate” victim also salves the ego and scapegoating the “white men, Jews, conservatives, etc…” is easier than accepting responsibility for their own actions.
It will get interesting when the money runs out.
Exactly. Why on Earth would any minority person in the USA today ever blame themselves for the consequences of their own life decisions when there exists those convenient white male, racist, sexist, homophobic scapegoats? Seems as if “minorities” are are indemnified against any bad life outcome by reason of their race, sex, sexual orientation…..or something.
Hey, if this really takes off then I’m that much closer to getting a retribution check from Italy for all the persecution my Christian ancestors endured in the ancient Roman empire.
I’ll add that to my indentured servitude reparations from my ancestors.
Well, alrighty then – as an Irish-Cajun-American, I stand to clean up in the reparations department. My Gaelic and Acadian ancestors’ suffering should entitle me to something, no?
/sarc
Well half my family is French Canadian and the other half is Polish American so the Canadian part owes the American part and vice versa for the war of 1812, and both halves are awaiting their paycheck from Germany for WW2 and the Teutons. Then again the French part of me owes the Canadian (English) part of me for Napoleon. But the English part owes the French part for the Hundred Years War. Damn this is getting confusing. And idiotic. Tribalism is the new inclusiveness and trying to explain it to most people is a good way to get accused of racism. George Orwell here we come.
Heard of the Irish potato famine? When I was a little girl my Irish grandmother told the story to me in a way that made it sound like genocide. by WASPs.
Heard of the ‘No Irish Need Apply” signs in US cities 100 years ago? Again, the “villains” were US WASPs.
Was my grandmother fair? She and her brothers and sisters worked very hard at whatever work they could find – which wasn’t very dignified work, servants, chauffeur, etc. My great-aunt’s descendants include a CPA, a lawyer, teachers, RNs, and so forth, but the early generation endured hardships.
If you recognize yourself, I’ll gladly take reparations for WASP discrimination in my PayPal account! LOL!
You’re mangling two different issues — lifestyles and wealth. Non-whites don’t share whites’ work ethic. If some old ethnographic studies still exist, you’ll see that African and AmerInd societies usually operated with males ‘working’ a couple of hours a day and spending the rest of their time gambling, story-telling, creating artwork, or in religious ceremonies. This is what those people do. If you move them to LA or Detroit, shazaam!, you’ll find them spending little-to-no time working, and happy as clams. The only problem with unemployment is poverty. Send them a check once a month and — no problema!!!! Prof Hanson mentions the broblems in India, the Balkans, and Rwanda, but these are simply places where more than one race/deme/breeding population live in the same area. Any other place where race-mixing takes place is the same. America was peaceful as long as whites dominated other races so completely that resistance was unthinkable. The minute it became thinkable, in the 1950s, the conflicts began. Prior to 1960, the term ‘race riot’ meant rampaging whites, attacking minorities. After the Watts riots, and ever since, the term implies the opposite. All of these race riots, demonstations, black-on-white crime (30 times more frequent than white-on-black) are simply a slow-motion race-war. After the Civil Rights Acts of the mid-60s made whites de facto and de jure second-class citizens, the Democratic Party became the enforcer of non-white dominance. There is no way any other party can displace them, because they are performing too well to allow competition. Even at that, can anyone imagine the GOP deciding, by default, to become the party of white people? Get real! Whites don’t deserve an advocate for their interests because whites have no rights that a colored person has to recognize.
“Ethnographic studies”, you mean white supremacist rantings about the inferiority of the non-white races? What kind of bogus nonsense are you talking about. While whites were still wandering around in caves and forests, so-called minorities ruled the world and built civilizations that lasted for thousands of years.
According to your race based theories, minorities were able to do this by working only a ‘few hours a day’? They must have been mighty smart to be able to accomplish all that they did, when it took the White-euro world powers all day to accomplish the same thing. ??? That doesn’t make sense.
And then you said this:
“America was peaceful as long as whites dominated other races so completely that resistance was unthinkable. The minute it became thinkable, in the 1950s, the conflicts began. Prior to 1960, the term ‘race riot’ meant rampaging whites, attacking minorities”
America was peaceful? For who, the whites, who were the oppressors at that time? It certainly wasn’t ‘peaceful’ for the oppressed minorities (etc. blacks and Indians) Does ‘rampaging whites, attacking minorities’ fit your warped view of ‘peaceful’? Really?
Conflict begins the minute one race thinks that it is superior to another race and that it has the ‘right’ to dominate them! Oppression breeds rebellion. Always has and always will.
WarrenMA:
You sayin’ that Indian tribes and black African tribes didn’t war, rape and kill each other? Who’da thunk it?
Professor Frank Salter writes:
Relatively homogeneous societies invest more in public goods, indicating a higher level of public altruism. For example, the degree of ethnic homogeneity correlates with the government’s share of gross domestic product as well as the average wealth of citizens. Case studies of the United States, Africa and South-East Asia find that multi-ethnic societies are less charitable and less able to cooperate to develop public infrastructure. Moscow beggars receive more gifts from fellow ethnics than from other ethnies [sic]. A recent multi-city study of municipal spending on public goods in the United States found that ethnically or racially diverse cities spend a smaller portion of their budgets and less per capita on public services than do the more homogenous cities.
Additionally, Professor Byron M. Roth argues that the current debate over immigration policy is unlikely to produce a satisfying outcome since it takes place uninformed by the science of evolutionary psychology. He thoroughly reviews theory and research indicating that the success of any policy of mass immigration will be profoundly constrained by fundamental features of human nature. Prominent among those features is a natural bias toward ones own kind and a certain wariness of others, making harmony in multi-ethnic societies problematic at best. The problems for such societies are compounded when groups differ in ability and temperament in non-trivial ways. Roth explores the history of European immigration to the United States prior to World War II and contrasts it with post-war immigration in the West. The evidence marshaled makes clear that the earlier European immigration experience of the United States is so different from current patterns that it cannot provide a useful template for understanding and assessing those patterns. In addition, Roth addresses the disturbingly undemocratic nature of the regime of mass immigration imposed by authorities on the citizens of all western nations in defiance of their clearly expressed wishes. He shows that the chasm between elite views and public opinion is so deep that current policies can only be maintained by an increasingly totalitarian suppression of dissent that undermines the very foundations of western democracy.
And if black people claim that they built this country, it is all hail to the downtrodden black minority. Right Ms Warren? But since it was a white male making these claims, you are all in for the condemnations and persecutions. Right, Ms Warren? Look at yourself. Look at what you have become. A sniveling self righteous woman who is exactly the type of tribal victim Dr Hanson is referring to. And you are so immersed that you can’t even see it. If this is your identity, you are an imbecile. It appears that the majority of American voters now see themselves as part of small tribes. And that is exactly how they will lose this country. By the way, I am white and male and I don’t share this man’s views, but your view is more destructive, as you will see soon enough.
I got rear ended at a stoplight by an illegal with no insurance or license. Can I start a tribe?
Though my DNA is Irish/Welsh white male I now declare (under the E. Warren rule) that I am a Hispanic unmarried female. That should do it.
Interesting thread.
Of note, anyone younger than I– I would recommend that when applying for govenrnment jobs, grants or college admissions signify you are the minority flavor of the month.
If you are confronted, demand a blood purity test. Let the fascists enforce their racist policies. They will back down, I’ve seen it, and the more they “enforce policy”, the more documentation you have to use against them.
Once upon a time there was the idea that being “American” meant shedding all of our previous tribal identities and allegiances and becoming one people. “E Pluribus Unum”
Most of my ancestors came here after the Civil War, but I think of the 13 colonies and the Revolutionary War as part of “my” history.
Multiculturalism is segregation by a different name.
Great point, Jim. When one considers the results of all the “protections” minorities enjoy then one can see the awful results. See the state of large black American communities from 1924 to 1954, then compare it to the same in the period 1964-2004. The combination of government programs, drugs, cheap weapons, and abortion are decimating black Americans.
Oh please…. do not buy into the BS about about cheap guns- it’s hard to get cheaper than stolen. Besides, machetes would do as well, ask any Rwandan.
Inner city violence is a culture problem, not a tool problem. The people pushing the “Saturday night special” crap do not give a rats ass about the gangbangers shooting one another, they just want an excuse to disarm the rest of us.
Self defense is a human right- and arms are the tool to exercise it.
“Multiculturalism is segregation by a different name.”
Great point, Jim. “Separate but equal” has become “equal but separate,” or to put it in 1 word: multiculturalism.
“Celebrate Diversity” is a cliche that should be tossed out with Thursday’s turkey carcass. We should respect diversity but celebrate those things that make us the same as Americans despite our diversity.
Your message sets off all my alarm bells. Are you a barbarian? Throwing out the turkey carcass is unforgivable, it is the best part. Save all the little scraps of meat, then boil the rest, bones and all for two hours. Combine the stock with the meat, add celery, onions, sliced boiled egg, seasoning and thickener. Serve over grits or, if you are a yankee, toast will do. There will be enough for an entire week of wonderful, savory breakfasts or suppers. It draws out the delight of Thanksgiving day for a week, almost enough to get you into Christmas season, when, if you plan well you can have another turkey carcass until New Years. It is a very American thing, a turkey. Enjoy it to the fullest.
Carcass is not identifiable after the stock is boiled off. Result looks like jello in the fridge. We make turkey gumbo with it and plenty of okra and other stuff I am not at liberty to reveal. Lasts about four meals.
Identity politics is the essence of the leftist party, without which they would seek to survive.
And this is precisely why the Radical-in-Chief tasked his Racialist AG to do the following – http://adinakutnicki.com/2012/07/30/the-racialist-potus-seeks-transformation-via-raced-based-classroom-edicts-say-it-aint-so-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
And it is not as if any of the above should come as a surprise. To the contrary. Their leftist seedlings were planted decades ago, but few paid attention from the Repub party.
They just go along to get along, even though it doesn’t appear as such.
It was not the Marxist Left but the progressives who instituted identity politics and multiculturalism. It is capitalism itself that is on the line, as I tried to explain here: http://clarespark.com/2012/11/07/capitalism-is-on-the-line/. It is true that communists have infiltrated the progressive movement, so it is not surprising that there is confusion. If the Republican Party wants to adapt to the decline in the “white” population, it needs to defend upward mobility, and change the schools so that students are educated in science, economics, and the history of conflict, without idealizing any group or system.
Sorry, that isnt a solution. That is what we have now.
Scientism is the new religion.
And for the record nobody is promoting the denying of women their ability to choose the timing of their own reproduction, except maybe the Islamists.
It is easy to not reproduce, by keeping your legs closed.
And nobody is proposing to ban contraceptives.
Clare – Wrong as usual. Politically correct language, multiculturalism and identity politics are all Marxists constructs. Study more.
“the essence of the Leftist party and the essence of the Rightist party” is on this wise:
Because life and marriage is a practical matter, if you took home-ec and can garden, and then you married a guy who took manual arts / ag classes, you are Conservative; if otherwise, dependent as you are, and apprehensive about the world around you, inevitably, your thinking tends to fall back on what of life is supplied by the poorness of sharing in some appearance of the modern tribal relationship, you will look upon Conservatives through the lens of a mystified envy—you are a Leftist, . . . a Democrat.
Either way, these things and this condition obtains from one’s own conformance to, or failure in respect to the Great Command: “HAVE DOMINION OVER THE EARTH—SUBDUE IT.”.
Practical skills training having now been a long time removed from childhood training, this nation is now populated by people who can do very little regarding wrestling wealth from the chaos which is Nature. And when faced with a nagging sense of reality concerning their own powerlessness, increasingly, ppl who should be having children, are instead, expressing apprehension and are inventing theories to paste various appearances of blame over the whole idea.
Also, and no surprise, even many so-called Republicans are becoming of Leftists—and in fact, so much so that, for such, it has been found useful to have invented a name—”RINO”, . . .
And, it’s all so simple: The beginning being a great place to begin, train a child in the way in which he should go, and even when he is old, he will still be in fulfillment of the Great Command: “HAVE DOMINION OVER THE EARTH—SUBDUE IT.”—not as now and as was in ancient Rome will he find occasion to look for so-called Liberals to “spread the wealth around” so that he can at least squeak by, . . .
Nor also, will he feel compelled away from production and driven into the governmental workforce, feeling that to be “the best he can do”, . . .
Here is a YT example of modern tribalism in demonstration and those poorly trained as children and who unavoidably, have succumbed:
“http://tinyurl.com/bdm8z5w”—and yes, they are Leftists, all, . . .
Obama’s identity politics would create a Frankenstein of patched-together victims
…Amen…but the rot is much wider and Obama is just a symptom; let’s not forget his enablers, so many of them in the academy and the MSM.
In the fractious future we face, nobody gets a pass. Put bluntly, the bad guys can run but they can’t hide. That applies to many corrupt household names in the GOP, too.
Who among them will yield power quickly and gracefully? Approximately…none.
Endless chatter won’t get anywhere — it bounces right off the vanities of our self-styled elites.
So buckle up and batten down if you have any balls worth protecting — and especially if you identify with the large and powerful tribe known as Really Pissed-Off Americans Of All Backgrounds Who Demand Change Now.
E pluribus unum makes a fine battlecry for the fights ahead.
The time to go underground is now.
IMHO, the ho politicians were left out of the “enabler” bunch, oh, and it’s time to TAX the 1% in Holloywood that have paid NO, none, zip, zero, nada, taxes on the $billions earned by the movies: The Hobbit Triology, Harry Potter, James Bond, etc.etc.etc…Right mr. More.
It is sad that so much of what Hanson is describing in this article is coming to pass. While Obama exploited the tribalism to get elected and re-elected, he is not the cause of such divisive politics. One only has to work in a university environment to see where such a racial spoils system is fully entrenched and how counter-productive it can be.
There is no longer a left or liberalism in America. There is only a politics of victimhood that looks on all allocation of employment, college admissions, rewards of any kind as a spoils system to be divided baseded on formulas that favor formerly underrepresented groups. Visit any website offering jobs of any kind at a university and it will advertise that they are favoring women and minorities.
This is not unfamiliar to anyone who was part of the new left in the late 1960s and early 1970s. The people who had worked so hard to end segregation, create vast new opportunities for women and had pushed for a more human rights oriented foreign policy allowed their movement to be taken over by those who sought to use their cause to fuel their own personal ambitions. That is how a movement with humane ideals could degenerate so quickly into a collection of interest groups promoting their own aggrandizement at the expense of the common good.
“Causes begin as movement, develop into businesses and end up as rackets.” This quote or some similar wording is attributed to Eric Hoffer and I believe that it represents what we are seeing transforming America. The Democratic Party did not create this mess but it has cynically exploited it to gain the presidency where it rewards its supporters by filling the federal bureaucracy and judiciary with advocates for the racial, gender and ethnic spoils system.
Within days of the election we have seen Democratic Party appointed judges vote to void the Michigan law, Proposal 2, by which Michigan voters reaffirmed the racial neutrality of the fourteenth amendment. And we have seen the EPA refuse to allow Iowa farmers to use their corn as food and feed grain because environmental extremists demand that it be turned into ethanol. While clearly, this policy is supported by those with an economic interest in it, it could never be allowed without the support of a “sustainability” movement that is incapable of considering the overall economic consequences of its environmental extremism.
The future is not promising. Title IX extremists will now use it to attack American science, attempting to create gender equality of numbers in engineering and physics the way it creates equal numbers of athletes receiving athletic scholarships. In the process it will create an entire new bureaucracy of regulators and compliance officers who will be paid to ensure that college admissions, scholarships and assistantships, post-docs, conferences, speakers at national meetings and the like are assigned to assure that the number of females is greater than or equal to the number of males receiving such rewards. And when people try to resist it, the armies of regulators and compliance officers will respond by declaring that such resistance is a war on women and is evidence that the problem is that we don’t have enough regulators and compliance officers.
I am a generally optimistic person but it is hard for me to see how this is going to end in anything but disaster.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed……”
“And when people try to resist it, the armies of regulators and compliance officers will respond by declaring that such resistance is a war on women and is evidence that the problem is that we don’t have enough regulators and compliance officers.”
Very well put,Jonathan!
“Causes begin as movement, develop into businesses and end up as rackets.”
Thank you for that quote. It is so painfully evident that it applies not only to the big causes like civil rights but also to public service unions, planning commissions and government agencies of all types. In fact it could be an apt metaphor for federal, state and local governments in their entirety. Yes, the tree of liberty needs refreshing indeed!
“Some House Democrats are alleging that reservations voiced about a potential nomination of Susan Rice as secretary of State are both racist and sexist — and do not concern the fact that on five consecutive occasions she misled the nation about the nature of the Benghazi murders of four Americans (peddling an improbable story, which both the CIA and the president of the United States were, at least now and then, on record denying).”
I’m REALLY getting sick of this. Whenever you have the temerity to criticize ANYBODY in the Obama administration, you are labeled a “racist” or a “sexist.” They have done this for four years now, and seem bent on doing it for another four years. Vile toadies like Chris Matthews, as well as all the others in the mainstream media who just adore carrying water for Obama, LOVE to do this on a regular basis. The problem is that it cheapens the words “racist” and “sexist” and people start to become immune to those words when they are overused on a regular basis. So when there are real instances of racism or sexism, people just tend to ignore it.
So what are we to do? Well, as long as you have a mainstream media that’s willing to play ball with Obama on this, you’re going to hear a lot more of it. But what is more troubling is that, instead of doing their jobs and trying to uncover the real truth about what happened in Libya, the mainstream media is buying into this meme about racism and sexism. So not only is the mainstream media spreading false charges, but it is ignoring a very real tragedy in Libya as well.
All we can do is try to expose this and prove to people that this bias does exist. When enough people stop reading their newspapers or watching their programs, maybe the mainstream media will start to listen.
What to do? Yawn. Yawn every time that the word “racist” or “sexist” is mentioned. It’s like mo-fu’r and SoB. Words lose their meaning when stretched beyond their permissible limits. T.S. Eliot told us a century ago that words “decay with imprecision.” Yawn. But speak the truth.
And what motivates our masters to divide us into ethnic groups and to foster a sense of victimhood? Why are they uniformly horrified by the demonic Tea Party movement? This system enhances their power and security. The “victims” need them to get a “fair” share. Because of their low birth rate, their money and their connections the elite can assure their own children a place at the trough and at the same time allocate a percentage of the power positions to identifiable members of victim groups who buy into their ideology. Non-hyphenated Americans who adhere to the melting pot vision for America are a serious threat to them. They have to be “reduced” to the status of just another victim group. Until they are reduced they will be demonized along with serious Christians and what is left of the military subculture. Any alternate viewpoint equals hate.
Tribal is the word for it but it is now to be a primary driver of K-12 classrooms using Obama’s Positive School Climate Executive Order coupled with “The 10Cs: A Model of Diversity Awareness and Social Change” as the means for cultivating the desired new attitudes and values. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/making-race-and-class-oppression-the-locomotives-driving-the-positive-school-climate-mandate/
This is THE Prism that children will be trained to filter all their perceptions and experiences through. Individualism is being slayed in the classroom and each student must accept the mantle of their assigned Group Identity. Literally or be deemed not to have attitudes and dispositions demonstrating the desired Growth. You really are not going to like the definition of Student Achievement the Obama Administration is foisting on states and districts.
If you couple the 5 Cs of Awareness and the 5Cs of Change with the Community and Others first requirements of Moral Competency and Performance Competency that are also part of the Positive School Mandate, you have the kind of personal belief alteration and manipulation that CANNOT happen in a free country. At least for long. So either this needs to stop soon or we need to understand government officials no longer accept personal boundaries of American citizens.
We are simply clay to be molded, votes to be mined, and taxes to be collected. That’s what the rejection of the primacy of the individual is leading us to. Largely out of sight and unappreciated.
They’ve been at this for a long time. I stil recall the time, shortly after 911, when I got into a discussion/exchange with a young black guy at work about AQ, jihadists, etc. At one point I used the phrase “those people” in describing AQ, etc. He immediately jumped on this. “Oh, it’s Those People, is it? (emphasizing “those”). Them, right?” I replied “Well, yes, they’re fairly common words, you know. They, them , those…”. An indignant look appeared on his face and he shook his head and walked away. He’d been brainwashed in the public schools system to believe that a white person like me using common terms like “them” or “they” or “those people” was a racist expression. It meant I was viewing the “brown people” as “The Other”. He had been conditioned, as sure as if he’d been Raymond Shaw looking at the Queen of Hearts, to react this way to the use of a common word.
racist shitface, that’s all. forget him.
The Left now goes about attacking “angry white men” the same way that white segregationists of a generation or two ago used to attack “savage black men.”
The Left has actually constructed a new, upside-down racialism in which blacks and Hispanics and certain Arabs are at the top, considered the salt of the earth and the noblest of all; and whites and religious Jews are at the bottom, considered as nothing but evil and brutish.
And they are reaping the reward of such tomfoolery. Inept affirmative-action recipients who really have no business in the positions they hold, mostly because they lack objectivity and clear-thinking. Holder is an excellent example. Rice is another. Obama is a third but to some, not so obvious. However, the list goes on and on.
The media has taken it upon itself to be the apologizer for all all of the white-man’s past sins. It’s not enough that the laws have taken their toll on productive America and Americans; We now must do penance in the form of repeating the mantra “being black is cool” at every opportunity and whenever a black is compared to a white of superior ability, not only must the black be praised and held on a higher pedestal, but the white competitor must also be identified as a racist by default and therefore incapable of being anything else.
These times were most likely bound to happen in the (for lack of a better way to put it) “evolutionary state” of finally getting away from the scourge of actual racism. The pendulum swing and all that. But naturally, the power-brokers see profit in it and use it to fill their pockets. Always follow the money.
In perhaps another 200 years, if this nation has survived, it may be seen that the behaviors of the second half of the last century and the first part of this one were all BS. Looking at history has the tendency to be more objective than when one is in the middle of it. Not always but it helps to be distant from it. By the same token though, the left never seems to learn anything from it.
are dirty, filthy, rotten racists, that’s all
Liberal progressives that feed on “victimhood” for their power will continue to drain this country of our freedoms until they centralize all the wealth of this country and we finally are back to the totalitarian governments that the “old white men oppressors” of this country tried to escape just two or three generations ago. Not one of my great-grandparents who came to this country from another would consider themselves anything but American. No hyphens. If academia was more interested in teaching our children about what our grandparents remembered, namely having their land confiscated and their food “redistributed” to governments that could only satiate the armies it took to keep them in power, we would be what they were, self sufficient and grateful. Instead I listen to my children tell me about the intolerance of teachers who insist on papers calling our history of assimilation a travesty. REALLY?!! Try walking across a continent to escape starvation,war,and imprisonment! How easy to be so self-rightous under the cover of tenure! Parents should revolt in their public high schools and universities against these teachers and the mudslide of brainwashing propaganda our youth is suffocating under.Read Anna Ahkmatova’s poems,the fate of her husband and son- want her life story for your own? Only when we succeed in proving the progressive ideology responsible for inflicting real oppression can we save the Constitution, the one limited government that brought more prosperity than the world has ever known. God help us now.
I see it as the attempt to remake the nation into a kinder, gentler vision of the Old South.
This morning, reading The New York Times Book Review in the only venue appropriate to it (IYKWIMAITYD), Lloyd Grove appraised a book about how racist, stupid, and brutal Texas is. He closed with a reassuring paragraph about how rapid Latino immigration and birthrates would soon fix all that and make Texas a liberal Democrat redoubt in perpetuity, as its new inhabitants voted their “natural” interests. It hit me then: Lloyd Grove and the rest of our Leftist neo-gentry (AKA the doucheousie) understand exactly what they’re doing when they encourage the replacement of their own countrymen with foreigners whose political culture is almost the opposite. They want to replace those fractious, independent, don’t-tread-on-me Americans (of all extractions) with people who are much, much easier to rule, because used to being ruled. That’s why assimilation into American culture has been so strongly discouraged for decades (thank you, Ford Foundation).
The neo-gentry are sanguine about this horrid prospect because they don’t expect ever to lose their power, or even have to share it, ever again. The traditional routes to rising and bettering one’s position in this society are entrepreneurship and education. Both are just about completely closed off now. Starting a business? If it’s not big already, and jacked into the real power centers of DC, NY, LA or Chicago, it’ll never be anything but an endless struggle against regulation and taxation. As for a college education, that was subverted with diabolical subtlety: It’s become so costly that if your family can’t pay for it upfront (i.e., you’re already in the elite) and you aren’t of the correct tribes to qualify for the scholarships and price breaks (most of which are ethnically targeted now), you incur deep debt to get it – which makes the most effective fetters of all, because you forged them willingly yourself, rather than having been denied opportunity over something you couldn’t help. Meanwhile, our betters can choose from the young, ambitious collegians those who will be assets to the neo-gentry, and they will rise to the top (Elizabeth Warren herself is the best example).
The ultimate goal is a stable order with a small stratum (about 5%) of wealthy friends and families who all agree on everything, and control society for the General Good, starting with protecting their own interests. Most of us will struggle in between, a nation of Julias afraid of losing the subsidies and accesses (e.g., health care) we need to get by no matter how hard we work. At the bottom, a 20% or so permanent underclass can be managed with outright handouts, with the threat of their potential for violence another handy tool to use for threatening the uppity. And so it will go until the money runs out – which will be a lot sooner than the neo-gentry think. Then, the fire.
Somebody give me reason to hope. Please.
Gee, that sounds remarkably like a society with an Inner Party, an Outer Party, and Proles.
No, where have I read a description of such a society before?
You just described France.
What you’re describing is already true in a country I know very well, Belgium, where I worked for 3 years – more precisely, its French-speaking near-half, Wallonia.
Wallonia’s four major cities – Liege, Namur, Charleroi and Mons – are already (with the possible exception of the capital, Namur) dumps of high unemployment – I mean long-term, three-generation unemployed, in Charleroi it’s probably above 30%. Yet the Socialist Party’s grip on the government of Wallonia – and its major cities – is unassailable, in fact, its leader, Elio di Rupo, is now Belgium’s prime minister. Di Rupo is on the record saying that he didn’t think that the situation of the long-term unemployed was a reason for concern as long as the state took care of them. It is utterly impossible that any party with relatively free-market policies – even in the European context – will ever run the government of Wallonia. The place is like Detroit, in many ways.
(As an aside: the Wallonia PS comes up now and then with grandiose plans for “infrastructure investment” – sounds familiar? – that go nowhere. One, around 2004, was called Wallonia’s “Marshall Plan”. A Belgian friend told me: “are they kidding? The Marshall Plan was a plan to rebuild Europe after a major war. If anything has made Wallonia in need of rebuilding, it wasn’t a war – it was the Socialist Party itself!”)
If you fear that Obama’s aims is to make the US more like Europe – well, there’s a big difference between Europe’s more dynamic places such as Germany and the Netherlands, and places like Wallonia.
Wallonia is bankrupt – yet it is subsidized by Belgium’s more prosperous and dynamic region, Flanders, which is more like the Netherlands. Which is precisely why separatist Flemish parties are gaining in power – even as the Walloons are terrified at the prospect of Belgium splitting. Yet what won’t happen – it’s impossible – is that Wallonia will reform and recover on its own. It will either continue as it is as long as Flandres or the EU support it, or it will collapse.
To be sure, it is still possible for individuals – small businessmen or professionals – to get on with their lives in Wallonia – but accepting the fact that they’re politically powerless and that the region as a whole has no future.
Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.
I don’t think it’s that complicated. The progressives despise their own country and culture and want to see it destroyed. They delight in defeating the caricature old white male culture they have imagined is at the root of all they hate and seek to cause as much pain as they can manage in the process. What and who might replace it is never given a thought. Read the comments in the Daily Kos.
The military cemeteries of America are filled disproportionately with those evil white males. One day the call will certainly come again, are you prepared to die on that hill and the answer will be ‘no’. Consent of the governed is predicated upon the willingness to ‘give the last full measure of devotion’. Going Galt just isn’t about business. You own it now, you defend it. You can’t appeal to nationalism when you reduce the game to tribes.
The USA was once a melting pot. It is now a centrifuge.
That is brilliant.
Those who advocate quotas for participation in most of life should be very careful of what they wish for. Let’s assume, for argument’s sake, that there is a racial quota on all jobs everywhere as well as admission to all schools from pre-kindergarten through PHD candidacies.
Assume further that the U.S. Census indicates that the population consists of 13% “black”, 13% “hispanic”, 6% “Asian”, 63% “white”, and 5% “other.” What would professional sports teams look like? Major League Baseball would be the only professional league to be not much changed. The NFL and the NBA would look massively different. Would the Black community be willing to accept the fact that, regardless of demonstrated skill, many of their children would be rejected automatically from consideration for positions to which they might be otherwise qualified?
“The NFL and the NBA would look massively different. Would the Black community be willing to accept the fact that, regardless of demonstrated skill, many of their children would be rejected automatically from consideration for positions to which they might be otherwise qualified?”
Not to worry, as the above would never happen. Why? The principles of affirmative action, as they are practiced here in the US, would never, ever allow quotas to occur at the expense of any minority group, only that of white males . Those black football & basketball players have nothing at all to be concerned about.
I remember, a few years ago, Joe Morgan going off on a rant on ESPN about how Hispanic players were crowding black players out of baseball. Joe’s solution? Limit the number of *white* players! Unfortunately, although I wrote several letters to ESPN about it, I never got an answer from Joe concerning which white players he was willing to ban from baseball in order to achieve that quota.
Dr. Hanson, the most important point you made was when you said you had more affinity with your Mexican American friend of 50 years than with some amorphous white person that you are not acquainted with. This is simply human nature.
How true that is for most of us. We are most comfortable with those we know and like. In rural and small town settings, that usually includes most of our neighbors. In larger communities probably not.
My experience living in a big city was that I was friends with like minded people whether white or Hispanic. In my rural setting where I was raised and live I am friends with neighbors and those I trust and have interests in common with, again regardless of ethnic background.
People, let’s face it. The vast majority of us want to associate with those who are like us. It is just much more comfortable. And remember, when it comes to getting a job, it’s who you know not what you know.
Liberalism is infantilism and the belief that history can be changed, undone, or avenged by reparations fits perfectly with such Tooth Fairy naivete.
The problem, of course, is when government decides to put their full weight behind one side. This government has shown scant interest in the documents, laws and principles that elevated them to power and now that they are the ‘ins’ they are happy to act as legbreaker for imagined racial sins.
Their lawlessness is cheered on by media who also make a daily mockery of their very precious First Amendment rights. A press acting voluntarily as the propaganda arm of the government was outside the experience of the founders; they specifically referred to freedom of the press because they fully expected the press to point out instances of government deviating from the law. That line of demarcation has been erased, literally and figuratively (hasn’t it, Mr. Stephanopoulos?) and so we are running headlong into Chinese peasant territory. The communal loudspeaker mounted on a pole has been replaced by a sleek 1080p LCD screen purchased with EBT funds but the stream of propaganda from and about Dear Leader are quite similar.
I cannot give a reason to hope.
I can try to inspire a couple of things: 1. start a White AntiDefamation League, 2. Give money to/start/European Heritage education activities such as leaning to play classical music and romanticizing past European heroes through childrens books i.e.King Arthur, Charlemagne,beautiful princesses, etc. so that there is alternative propaganda, 3. if you’re white, have lots of children and teach them positive things about their culture of origini.e.Irish, Czech,Italian,etc.teach them to love their own looks and culture.
These are things the blacks and others have been obsessively focused on for many years.
“WHITE” people have allowed themselves to become the “color of water” and now used as the wash-up water for everyone else.
Unfortunately, this is the real goal of these Globalists, to make everybody homogenized, rewrite history and institute a sci-fi police state over the entire world in the name of “fairness” and “equality”. Its ANIMAL FARM coming true.
Time to head for the monastaries and preserved the illuminated manuscripts big time, people.
Democrats are very aware that leaving a saucer of milk out for a stray cat will attract other animals and vermin. That’s their base.
Unfortunately (actually fortunately), the smaller prey (lower income) become a food (income) source for the larger predator (politician).
And since we are dealing with humans (?), the advantage of power is too delightful to pass up when you can use it to scourge your opponent.
White European Identity Politics or you will be treated like evil oppressor dirt and picked off, picked on, discriminated against, etc individually by other tribes.
The tribe is survival.
We used to have a collective American tribe, which all assimilated to. That identity and assimilation is now racist and evil.
Form a tribe or die. Nature is what it is.
Theh Dream of America is finished. Time to survive.
Hire only white Europeans.
White Europeans in general and Americans are demonized and scapegoated, in the halls of power and in respected academia. If you think this ends well, if you think that appeasing this is going to end well for White Europeans, you are fool 10 times over.
Time to re-embrace Identity Politics and fight for our survival.
I agree
One benefit of White European Identity Politics Tribalism, is that White Women will have something to hang their hat upon, they know that when other tribes rape them, or they are discriminated against because of their skin color, that the tribe will be looking out for their well being. This will bring White European Women closer to the White European Male, which is of paramount importance. Individualism, which begets Feminist politics and separates the tribe and family, has left us ripe for the pickings by other tribes. It is easy to defeat a disorganized group with much smaller forces. It is also easy to pick off individuals one at a time, off alone by themselves.
It’s survival of the fittest out there, and White Europeans have recently been losing by their own choice. Embracing self loathing and hatred, self doubt and nihilism.
Or, the other explanation is that all of this nonsense is just a smokescreen used by (leftist, only) politicians to manipulate the public. If Cheekbones Warren were a Republican, this crap wouldn’t have worked. Clarence Thomas was black but also conservative, so he must be destroyed… the blather about “equal opportunity” was out the window. Not coincidentally, most of the people propagating these memes are themselves white and male, or at least white.
I can tell you that when Christine Whitman (a Republican) was elected first woman governor of NJ, she won a majority of MALE votes in the state, but not female. Did we hear any of the media or other critics say how tolerant NJ males had become for providing the margin of victory for NJ’s first woman governor? Of course not.
All. About. Manipulation.
Yea, I’ve been wondering about the disingenuous difference in treatment between Condeleeza Rice and Susan Rice, and the casual acceptance of clearly illegal election shenanigans of R. Allen West, where St. Lucie County had an average if 141% voter participation- partially due to a recount of votes after he was called in the lead. To name a few egregious examples.
No one is calling Racism or Sexism if the offended is not a member of the right (er, left) party.
House minorities good, at all costs. Anyone off the plantation (R, Libertarian, Tea Party, Independent)- even part way, like Juan Williams- demonized and drummed out.
Party line is everything, in the politics of Power.
And then there were the lovely cartoons portraying Condi Rice as a house slave etc … check out google images, you’ll find too many to link to …
Dr. Hanson;
Are you prepared for the looming “Death Tax” about to befall you and other farmers like you on January 1st?
Have you any plans you can share with us?
Also, Dr. Hanson; Are you aware of the amount of bigotry and racism in this critique of the Obama Regime? What other defense do they have? Although they will use whatever white victim they can for their “offering” of penance.
(The dirt on Patraeus was not supposed to come out this early; They wanted it saved for a later campaign if he ran for political office. He was the perfect sacrificial lamb for use in a produced “crisis”).
The U.S. is sending a few of the U.S. fleet to the Mediterranean in case there are “Americans” wanting to escape Israel.
Just how many “Americans” are there, that would require this capacity of evacuees?
How are they going to keep the “American” Jews separate from the “American” muslims? I mean, if they are allowed to bring “personal effects” on board, “personal effects” to a muslim consist of explosive devices, shrapnel, RPG’s, and IED’s?
And WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO AWARD THE BENGHAZI VICTIMS THE MEDAL OF HONOR? I know that “above and beyond the call of duty” for Democrats isn’t considered authentic unless there is traveling to exotic locations, dining and schmoozing with local dignitaries, with golf included, but, can’t they make an exception?
Why is it that anything that smacks of decency, gallantry, intrepidity, valor, benevolence, or heroism be called racist by the Democrats?
Yes, Victor Davis, you’ve seen the future. The short term response of the GOP over the last decade has been to try to play at the same game. But a new long term response is needed else things will get significantly worse. I write about one here at PJ:
http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2012/11/07/gop-outreach-to-hispanics-wont-work/
Everything you describe in your piece is the product of hard work over decades by the racialist groups.
Being a science fiction reader all my life, I tend to take a long view of events and I have fun extrapolating them out. For the last 40 years, speculative SF has told us about technology gone mad or good and evil corporations and post-environmental disasters and what have you.
The one dystopian SF story they have never told is the one Dr. Hanson just did, eloquently and with a ring of truth that cannot be denied; after all, he is stating simple facts from our real country.
The real SF novel waiting to be written will be about an America, and the West, overwhelmed by Third World populations which will reside alongside and find solidarity with, America’s disenfranchised: women, gays, blacks, etc. Resentment and a lack of talent will win, and the reality of that lack talent, fueled by political correctness, will only create even more resentment. An ethnic, bickering Tower of Babel looms.
The thing about Third World populations is that, if they were capable of doing a thing like inventing electricity, as the Dr. says, they would have already done so. Coming to live in America won’t change that. A plane ride won’t change the nature of a thing.
The dystopian reality waiting for us is one the mostly liberal SF writers won’t touch, the reality of what is and has been history, and the faith-based view of what liberals WANT to believe is the future – that diversity and multiculturalism will right all wrongs and ships and the unlucky and historically oppressed rocket scientists of Mexico, Haiti, Egypt and Somalia will usher in a glorious new age with all the good tech and social order and wealth people like but without the racism and oppression, because whites will have their population written down so their racism and longing for Ozzie and Harriet and the anti-bellum South is manageable.
And liberal are coming to put it like that, especially identity groups, and especially in the last four years. Liberals openly cackle about the new demographic coming to America. In essence, every demo will grow in influence that is failure and every demo will shrink that has been the font of success.
If one bases one’s view of the future on the past, rather than a thing that has never taken place among history’s failure, one sees a much darker future for America, one where the first shanty towns are just around the corner, and there are fewer sources of innovation in America, but which will nevertheless be huddled up to physically, even while they are rejected philosophically as racist bigots. That is a recipe for disaster and unreality.
Throw a ball into the air and gravity will act on it, even while it is ascending. That is what will happen to America in the near future, maintaining the illusion that our new immigrants are not gravity. Things will seem fine for a long time. The decline may be so slow that only the oldest will be able to give warning. Then, the ball will begin to fall. It is inevitable, unless one really believes in the osmosis theory behind school busing, that some kind of assimilation equals brilliance rather than, at best, stolid order. Order is not innovation. Without a spark, it can be a culture treading water, waiting for someone else to innovate. Who will innovate if you overwhelm and marginalize the goose that laid the golden egg? It is not some Brazilian who invented time-keeping at sea but the English. Multiply that by 10,000. This is simple reality. Then bring in Brazilians, and take out Englishmen. Now start to divide.
A baseball player is not the same thing as a club owner. The owner creates and the player steps into a ready-made situation. The team looks good, everything is orderly and successful, but we know the real reason why. America has too many ball players and too few owners and it is getting worse and worse. Extrapolate out the Congressional Black Caucus, players not owners, to all of America and you have the Third World, not a bright culture. Liberals call this racism. History says otherwise. Liberals write SF – liberals lie. Liberals believe in the complete opposite, and act on it.
Take away those owners I described and you have an America that will eventually come to resemble Cairo and Mumbai, Jakarta and Bogota, Mexico City and Denpensar. It’ll take decades but it’ll happen.
The story Dr. Hanson has just told is one of a downward spiral. It is not hope but it is change, and one for the worse. The most unfortunate thing about Dr. Hanson’s article is that it is not fiction. At the same time, it is a spot on SF novel that has written itself. They say that truth is stranger than fiction. In this case, it is much, much worse than fiction, and far more accurate.
Unless of course you know a better story than Dr. Hanson’s, and reality.
“It’ll take decades but it’ll happen.”
Thank God I am not likely to be around to see it. My son, on the other hand……
One small note…uh…nobody “invented” electricity. But I don’t like being critical of the larger, much more valid points you made.
I have often examined history and noted this:
When Rome fell, there was a great period of darkness in Europe and not much happened except land-squabbles and disease. However, around 1600 or so, the time of the Renaissance, Galileo turned the new invention, the telescope to the heavens. Ships were being built and men went forth and explored, usually to find wealth. Innovation and invention started to take hold and the scientific method of examining the physical world became standard practice.
The black man was engaged in tribal warfare on the Serengeti.
Newton pondered gravity and had his epiphany about celestial objects and the like.
The clock was invented and, after some great experimentation, the problem of longitude solved with the invention of the mainspring for the chronometer.
The black man was engaged in tribal warfare on the Serengeti.
The steam-engine was invented and was mastered to power vehicles of incredible weight.
The black man was engaged in tribal warfare on the Serengeti.
Addendum, those blacks brought to the US were engaged in slavery.
The automobile was invented, slowly took hold and allowed everyone the mobility that was both cheap and fast. Oil made life much easier.
Then came the airplane and the ability to travel great distances even faster became commonplace. It competed against the train for a time but the airplane ultimately would win out.
The civil war had ended, the emancipation proclamation ended slavery. The black man set about becoming a citizen of the freest nation on earth. But there would be problems.
Businesses thrived worldwide, manufacturers after WW II numbered in the thousands.
The civil rights movement came along with the intention of eliminating racism and the harm it did to the black man. The coffers of the government were opened up and given to the black man. He decided to quit trying to become a citizen because being a victim was more profitable.
In 1969 I was reading a National Geographic that had the pictures of Armstrong and Aldrin walking on the Moon. A couple issues later, there was an article about the black man fighting tribal wars on the Serengeti.
The paragraph “the civil war had ended” should precede “the automobile was invented”. Not enough coffee.
I’m fine with the idea that someone invented electricity. Apart from the obvious defense that “electricity” often means the use of electrical appliances or the knowledge needed to make them — as in, “the ancient Egyptians had no electricity” — one could point out that the concept of electricity, which is not to be confused with direct experience of electrical phenomena, is, like any other concept, the product of the human mind.
I would’ve preferred “discovered” but I realize that it’s common practice to say “invented”.
“Made good use of” is too cumbersome. LOL
But I concede the point. :-)
“harnessed electricity…”
And in the 21st century, we’re told all those discoveries and inventions you discuss are evil incarnate–destroying the Earth, making the baby Gaia cry. Much better to have a “small carbon footprint”, eking out a subsistence living amidst the tribal wars in the Serengheti.
Very depressing.
Except, of course, that that idiotatariat absolutely must have their Ipods and smart phones, and all of the infrastructure that goes along with them. Not to mention that $4000 six-burner stainless steel stoves that they never turn on because they don’t know anything about cooking.
Darwin, sad to say, had a point. Worth reading: The Fate of Africa: A History of the Continent Since Independence, by Martin Meredith. Another one of the great tragedies of modernity. Africa, left to its own devices after a relatively brief period of European colonialism, proceeded to revert to tribalism and savagery, made all the worse and enabled by guilt-ridden whites who were all too eager to salve their consciences by pouring their wealth into the empty wells of African con artists, gangsters and genocidal monsters.
Those Africans who have chosen to educate themselves and who have worked towards a more humane civilization on the continent have been consistently overwhelmed by those who have not cared to escape the geas of tribalism, greed and savagery that still haunts modern Africa.
I do not believe this quote ever originated with Charles Darwin.
Unfortunately, the internet is rife with wrongful quotes.
I am reminded of the William F. Buckley observation that one cannot reasonably equate putting a bone through one’s nose with the building of Chartres Cathedral . . . . . .
Like several of Victor’s pieces, this article may be irrefutable in totality. The proof, if not apparent on its face, could be that there are as yet no Journolisto-appointed trolls rushing in to take it on. Oh they can sometimes make attempts at attacking 2+2=5 by attacking the messenger, and we may soon see such an attack, but it must needs fail. Come on Biden (“They’re gonna put y’all in chains.”). Come on Tingles Matthews. Come on Amanda Marcote, Ezra Klein, Paul Krugman, and acolytes; let’s see what you’ve got.
I must apologize for a truly stupid mistake I made above. It should read “2+2=4″.
Fred;
#24 is a reply to your #22;
Thanks for your reply, Cyb.
One comment:
Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as “bad luck.” Robert Heinlein
To paraphrase Adam Smith: CAPITALISM IS WHAT PEOPLE DO IF YOU LEAVE THEM ALONE…
They have nothing but more cheap, visceral, rhetoric.
Terrible writing. Unreadably convoluted sentences.
If you want to see how to simplify your writing, look at Richard Nixon’s book “Leaders”. You’ll see a very intelligent man writing very clear sentences.
Brilliant! Yes, Alan, if you want to see simplified writing at its best, you must read this great example: About those serving in the military the great expositor Kos wrote, “Screw them.”
/s
Eminently disposable sniping from a blogger with the hackneyed term ‘rants’ in the title.
“ridiculous large televisions, ridiculous large houses…I’m frankly glad that the economy crashed”
Take your asterisks, your OWS-grade mindless class envy and your beginner’s HTML and troll somewhere else.
How many titles have you published, Alan?
(Another hint — you’re the only one complaining about the writing style. Probably because the rest of us are skilled enough readers to follow complex thoughts.)
“Convoluted”?
Maybe to someone that has no capability to process LOGIC.
You need more pictures, too?
I think Alan has several connect-the-dots menus from Denny’s to finish yet before he can move on to more difficult tasks.
Unreadable and convoluted? Really? Dude, do not try for a career that involves reading comprehension.
On the other hand, tribalism favors the one group with no racialist or sexist or sexualist bone to pick, in that not having a set of pat excuses or grievances means that one is not as likely to get stuck in that dead end. And it is a dead end. It’s not as if decades of racialist thinking have raised the living standards of blacks in America–unless you consider majority illegitimacy and government dependence an improvement. As a white heterosexual man, while I have certainly been saddened and appalled by the way that others have flocked to these kinds of excuses like the opium they are, I have always counted myself lucky to have no such outlet for my failings. I know its antithetical to the zeitgeist, but I’ve always been grateful that I, and my sons, won’t become paralyzed by endless grievance and protest.
Me, too, Charles.
America fell in love with championing the underdog. It roots for them…until they become successful, then they begin to resent them and start tearing at their flesh.
It’s puerile and inane.
We became products of the protest culture. Pacifism became self-loathing and an excuse to slander our land. The protest culture revels in destroying unity, disparaging patriotism, creating victims of oppressors…where neither truly exist.
The “feel good” high of “being for the little guy” is so reckless and rampant, it exists on all sides of the political spectrum. Wall Street is not a hallmark of brilliant fiscal construction, it is Gordon Gekko. Large corporations are not paragons of enterprising genius, hiring tens of thousands, they are robber barons ripping off any and all for bloodthirsty greed.
Our military is not protector against world threats, it is a thief looking to steal oil and riches from people of a different color or creed.
All of this is a sublime big lie. It is the inching tectonic plate that will eventually crumble the very ground we trod upon.
Condoleeza Rice, Thomas Sowell, Marco Rubio, must be hyper-slandered. They ruin the fractured fiction and the fairy tale of leftism. The Koch Brothers and Adelson are the “wrong kind” of Jews. They must be demonized, lest we ask the questions that collapse the leftist narrative.
Clearly, we are on a horrific path. Our information stream is riddled with lies, distortion and intentional acts of treason. Our academia is worse, if that is even possible. Our Hollywood culture is a treasonous cesspool.
Liberalism in its classic form has been hijacked by radical leftism. There is no turning back on that. Republicans have lost their way in a rigged game. They are a damaged brand and are extraordinarily weak at messaging or combating the tyranny of lies, slander and distortion. As our “home” team, they are the Chicago Cubs. Hapless, feckless losers….with no idea why they are losing ground in a game where the umpires are bribed, bought and pocketed by the other side.
There is no quick fix in sight. Honor, loyalty, rational thought, unity…are passe’ notions. Betrayal is kewl. Treason is hip. And tyranny is on its way with a vengeance.
And tyranny is on its way with a vengeance.
Unfortunately true. It will fall to those of us who remember our history to make the exercise of tyranny expensive and fatal for as many of its perpetrators as possible.
Sorry, all the Communist criminals in the Eastern Block countries and the Soviet Union were given a free pass and incorporated into the new governing structures.
No or very few Crimes Against Humanity trials, were conducted.
Keep dreaming.
These people lived to perpetuate their poison and we are reaping the rewards of not prosecuting treason.
About 2,000 years ago the world was very much like VDH describes our future. It was utterly transformed in character and institution by changing the heart of man with the Good News of a nobody Jewish carpenter. How ironic that it was Enlightened men who took it all apart.
Politics will not save us from ourselves, nor will politics ever be capable of delivering the psychological prerequisites of the good life. Pull down your hat and scream in terror, but only the Catholic Church is capable of seeding the culture with the Good News of life beyond politics.
The Catholic Church as our savior? While I have the utmost respect for many Catholics, such as the folks who put on the Acton Institute, the overall cultural impact is debatable. Check, for instance, the Obama votes from Hispanic Catholics vs Hispanic Protestants!
Archaic, apparently, is the notion that ALL Americans rally ’round the unifying ideas of the country.
A day or so after the election, John Boehner telling Diane Sawyer that “republicans need to learn to appeal to ALL Americans.” Similar sentiments expressed on a Sunday show by Newt.
Boehner was also heard pandering to Barack’s ideas on taxation, forgetting that the House of Representatives is 1/2 of 1/3 of the US government and has not insignificant powers over government spending.
Too many republicans are joining the tribe of wimps. Obama and his divisive cabal love it.
To say nothing of the left’s notions of “compromise” which simply means to them for the right to do as the left wishes. Truly, they believe that really is compromise.
Most of us know, only too well, the various pathologies discussed by Professor Hansen in this article. Yet seeing them iterated, one piece of insanity after the other, is as if being hit in the face by a gust of freezing wind — in the dog’s days of August!
Going over the election results, the psephologists breakdown of who voted for whom, the almost certain electoral fraud in places like Ohio, the fact that a freak storm and a fat turncoat Republican Governor very probably resulted in 4 more years of Obama; to brood on these things is a waste of time — and a convenient way of overlooking the truth of this election: what kind of people could re-elect such a worthless creature, an empty suit —and yet full of venom, a poseur — and yet an arbiter who,literally, holds our fate in his hands? I flinch even to write these words, as this dire message is one of hopelessness, despair, and death.
Die iacta est: and so we each cross our own Rubicon — in the dark and very much alone.
Ex animo, Parchellan
Twenty years ago, my Government (Civics) teacher – the class was called Government – had everybody in the room stand up. Then he called out the names of various minority groups: women, Asians, Hispanics, Blacks, etc…. By the time he was done, only he and one other student were still standing out of a class of around 30 (class-size heresy these days). They were the white males in the room. His words? “Congratulations! We’re the majority.”
It was a great lesson on legal definitions vs. reality. I think all of us “got” that these definitions and groupings were a little stupid.
I differentiate myself, therefore I am.
Essentially, after reading the latest VDH excursion into detailed excellence describing the present condition of our American Experience, isn’t it obvious—
There’s a whole lot of confusion going on!
Just saw Ken Burns’ “The Dust Bowl” on PBS. What was the lesson?
I imagine there will be many people who will buy the “big government and FDR are good” argument by the Obama supporting Burns. However—
The Big Cause was stupidity, galloping into insanity, by the greedy “farmers” who rode the nature horse the wrong way, indeed off the cliff. Besides trying to grow wheat where logic screamed “Don’t’ do it!”, they used methods that tore up the earth, and when drought came, what else was the loose soil to do but blow away?
And, they STILL tried to do the same thing, after nature kicked their butts!
Even worse, we are reminded that stupidity or insanity continues, guaranteeing that in 20 years or so there will probably be a desert from Nebraska to Texas!
The greedy fools have pumped half of the aquifer deep under their feet, and when it runs out—well, move on, fools.
Just so, when it comes to Obama and his enablers. Simply spend a while pondering the state of mind of him and his pals!
Obama and his gang are Shiva the Destroyer, in accelerating action. They are blissfully unaware that there are irrefutable and unbreakable laws. And, as they flaunt them, and DO BREAK THEM, what must follow won’t be fun.
There is no free lunch! Hubris will bite back.
There are economic laws, based on supply-demand, but most vitally, there are the laws of physics.
As Maggie Thatcher memorably said, eventually socialists run out of other people’s money.
I’d also say, inspired by the history of the Dust Bowl, despite what Americans have learned about the material universe, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if mother nature finds a way to bite back, as well—a physical example of overusing “other people’s money”.
Obama proved you CAN fool enough people long enough to get and stay in power, but real Reality can’t be fooled forever. Even the densest Obama maniacs will soon enough realize what a horrible and suicidal mistake they made, by voting for him.
Tribalism has only JUST broken out, like measles!
You might want to find new sources of information on modern farming techniques. Documentaries about the Dust Bowl and left-wing agitprop are not reliable for up-to-date information.
Hey, man–the only REAL question, in my opinion, is whether the aquifer has been pumped half dry.
Do you doubt that plants need water?
Do you think “modern farming” has so advanced that when there is no more water to pump, the wheat farmers who are NOW relying on the aquifer can adapt?
Why don’t they NOW stop using that water?
I don’t know for sure, but I think mother nature will probably prevail, and those places that must pump water to grow plants will hopefully return to being grazing grasslands, at best, and deserts at worst.
Who, taking the Leftist point of view, writes: “Why don’t they NOW stop using that water?
I don’t know for sure, but I think mother nature will probably prevail, and those places that must pump water to grow plants will hopefully return to being grazing grasslands, at best, and deserts at worst.”
Who, let us examine your statements for their origins. Your use of the word “hopefully” above must really mean “I hope”, because mother nature can’t hope, neither can grasslands nor deserts. So you hope that all irrigated lands become grasslands and deserts. But if that ‘hopefully’ happens won’t the inhabitants of our southwestern states have to adopt the original nomadic goat- and oasis-centered Arab way of life? Likewise, won’t the inhabitants of the Midwestern states have to adopt the nomadic lifestyle of the plains Indians, hunting bison and raiding each other for sustinence?
I’m afraid some of the people who now live in those regions would rather die first if they must in order to prevent hopeful people like you from having your utopian dreams come true.
“Even the densest Obama maniacs will soon enough realize what a horrible and suicidal mistake they made, by voting for him.”
Don’t count on it. Remember: it’s all BUSH’S fault. Obama INHERITED this mess. Nothing that goes wrong is his responsibility.
Look at all the companies that are saying they won’t hire new workers or are cutting hours of current workers to get around the requirements of Obamacare. The loss of jobs won’t be blamed on Obama. Instead it will be the ‘greedy one percent’ that are deliberately foiling his plans.
Maybe I should have qualified my statement, and said MOST people who voted for Obama will be forced to realize what a horrible mistake they made. My point is that when things get MUCH WORSE, domestically and especially in foreign affairs—can you say Iran?—it’ll be like what happened after Watergate—
You could hardly find anybody who’d admit they voted for tricky Dick.
Indeed, I tried to watch this Ken Burns mastabatory hailing of government perfection and cut it off when the self-appointed intellectual described the “self-reliant Oklahomans who didn’t want government in their lives in any way had to realize that in order to survive, the only way to do that was with government help”.
Obvious socialist sales pitch. The people I’ve met from Oklahoma who had a dust bowl story to tell, told of moving away, like the family that moved to Oakland and recovered by going into another line of work and still keeping true to their ideals that they wanted nothing from the government if they were able to work.
I won’t watch anything more put out by Mr Burns. (excellent!)
I’m with you, but I did gut it out. I almost didn’t even give the program a shot, but decided to put up with all the FDR blather and such big government rah rah crap like you mentioned.
Ken Burns is such a weenie!
I don’t know how anyone could watch “The Dust Bowl,” and think that these people did not need some help from the guvment. Who knows if FDR’s policies actually extended the Great Depression, but how can you not respond to starving, desperate people? Is the conservative meme that if we had let a few more million people actually starve, we would have been out of the Depression a lot sooner?
I believe the point is that expert propagandist Burns, who turned the history of baseball for God’s sake into a history of Jim Crow, could make it appear that the Dust Bowl event was mitigated by Big Government. We have learned recently in fact that many of the widely published photos of DustBowl victims were posed and taken by Marxist photographers paid by the Government. Ken Burns is also paid indirectly by the Government.
Come, Dwight, you are smarter than this.
“Come, Dwight, you are smarter than this.”
What? It’s not a matter of intelligence. It’s a matter of indoctrination.
D-White, The Master of Nuance, sees none where The Julia Scar will no longer allow.
Strange brew
Kill what’s inside of you.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!
And apparently you live in an alternate universe, where the Dust Bowl really wasn’t that bad and the guvment really didn’t do anything to help. Your take on the pictures taken by “the communists” is unbelievably provincial. Frankly, I thought that YOU were smarter than that. What is your claim, that the commies took happy prosperous people, trucked them over to some shack, made them change their clothes into hicksville gear and then snapped away? Sure, the photographers were going for certain effects that is what photographers do, but they did not invent the damned Dust Bowl nor all the suffering connected to it. Aren’t there plenty of old people in your neck of the woods, who remember how the CCC or the WPA saved their sorry asses, if only as a stopgap measure?
But let’s suppose that you were making a documentary on the Dust Bowl; what would you be showing?
Me? Make propaganda films? Nah, I’ll leave that to Burns, HBO, and PBS, who make them for the gullable audience who relish eating up staged, posed, and now Photoshopped pitchers so that they can fool themselves into thinking they really care what happened in the 1930s. (‘Time’[Magazine] cries and Makes you care.) The dust storms in Oaklahoma, and other south-midwest states, were real, just like Sandy is real. The conservatives didn’t do it. Big government didn’t stop it. Big Government took pictures of it. You’ve been reading propagandist John Steinbeck’s “Grapes” again, at Thanksgiving time? Or did you just watch it on TV? How about that community organizer played by Hank Fonda. Say, by the way, without Homeland Security Agency and FEMA nobody would have survived the dust storms. [/s]
We couldn’t have another CCC at this time. Many of our youts would never put up with army discipline.
From History.com
“The CCC operated under the army’s control. Camp commanders had disciplinary powers and corpsmen were required to address superiors as “sir.” By September 1935 over 500,000 young men had lived in CCC camps, most staying from six months to a year. The work focused on soil conservation and reforestation. Most important, the men planted millions of trees on land made barren from fires, natural erosion, or lumbering—in fact, the CCC was responsible for over half the reforestation, public and private, done in the nation’s history. Corpsmen also dug canals and ditches, built over thirty thousand wildlife shelters, stocked rivers and lakes with nearly a billion fish, restored historic battlefields, and cleared beaches and campgrounds.
Although professing a nondiscriminatory policy, the CCC failed to give a fair share of work to blacks, especially in the South where local selection agents held sway. But in spite of rigid segregation and hiring quotas, black participation reached 10 percent by 1936.
In all, nearly 3 million young men participated in the CCC The army’s experience in managing such large numbers and the paramilitary discipline learned by corpsmen provided unexpected preparation for the massive call-up of civilians in World War II.”
BTW. Don’t bother correcting me on who played the community organizer Jim Casy. I know it was John Carradine, but Fonda’s character became a communist…er ah community organizer himself late in the film.
Ok. Here’s The Ground Zero Universe.
Been through and spent time in the OK, Texas Panhandles, the Dust Bowl area of New Mexico, Texas, Kansas and Colorado as outlined in the documentary. My wife’s extended family on her mother’s side is from that area. From Tucumcari, Geary, Amarillo to Wichita etc., some were around who remember those days, in days past.
Drive through the OK Panhandle and into southern Colorado for instance, to get a feel for how desolate it is there. Or just take I-40 west from OKC. Take the back roads up from western OK up to I-70.
The stories told do tell of some very hard times. Another line emerges that goes along the lines of, fewer than advertised were directly impacted by the dust, as not many were “out there”, the population density was quite low, and much of the land was known to be marginal at the that time in any case. Those “out there” knew the risks, (as stated in the documentary), and those that hung around and tried to make a go of it were labeled somewhere in the neighborhood of “crazy”, even before the early ’30s.
The Depression itself, regardless of whether you farmed or not, was said to have had much more impact.
This does not minimize the impact on those who suffered. As most in my wife’s family did indeed have a difficult time. It’s that, as some have stated here, the documentary over emphasizes the Federal government’s role, rather than individual initiative. The Joads are more like it, exaggerated, although the bespectacled graying commie savior at the end is… a bespectacled graying commie bullshiter.
I have several friends who grew up in the Central Valley of California whose families came west at that time, and again, things were tough as the stories went, but those who stayed put back there for too long paid a price.
This was known before the tragedy. It was known that that land at that time was “use at your own peril”.
And that scar is quite becoming.
Mr Lucky, you have a reasonable and coherent narrative here, while Fred, you are completely dodging the issue of whether or not there is a story in the dust bowl and depression worth telling. Apparently, no; nothing to see here; move on.
When one has sunk one’s life savings into marginal land, which happened to have produced bumper crops for the better part of ten years, it is not hard to understand why many would cling to the land. Yes, the smart and/or lucky ones left early, but if you had watched Burns’ production, you would get a decent sense of why many stayed. He makes it clear that their hope worked against them. It was a human tragedy, but you can’t fool Fred; it was really just commie propaganda. Fred, you are so allergic to any commie influence either back then, or in Burns now, that you are prepared to essentially deny that there was a Dust Bowl, a Depression, and that people suffered through terrible times. Is it too much to ask for sufficient powers of discrimination to speak coherently about the matter?
Finally, to the heart of the matter.
When one invests their entire life’s savings into something, it is the government that is there to bail you out of your failure? Is that what you’re saying?
If I start a business and it goes belly-up, it’s the government that will be there to make sure I don’t go destitute?
Solyndra?
Dwight, I’m sorry, sir but it is not the government’s duty to prevent people from failure. Therefore it is also not the government’s duty to profit from my success, though they do anyway.
If you want a sure-fire way to bollux up anything, get the government involved. As today with record numbers of people on food stamps and “extended” unemployment, and also the lack of jobs produced by your hero,Obama, we are in a total crap-fest of the government chasing its own tail. It always loses, by the way.
The strong, individualistic Oklahomans and Texans and others, by their instincts, found ways to survive. The government, by contrast, spent MILLIONS of dollars to teach them contour plowing and other ridiculous things which could not begin to eliminate the problems brought on by the drought.
Drought is a natural risk when farming. Much as certain intellectual elites would like to believe, human beings cannot control the weather. Not in 1930, not now. Nor does man have any influence on it.
Dwight, step back and re-assess what you’ve read, studied and made efforts to understand. Although the presentation had some interesting parts, it was a propaganda piece to tell the citizens who watched it that “mother government is here to protect you from failure”. That is the constant theme of socialism/communism. “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Karl Marx.
So if YOU fail at something… and you desire for some authority to fix it for you so you still get a trophy. Is that how you played soccer as a kid? Never keeping score? Everyone wins? Hmmm.
I’m sorry for making assumptions but the government of the United States of America was specifically designed to ALLOW for people to fail..with that ever-present feature to allow that same person to try again. In Communist America, Thomas Edison would’ve been denied any more tries after his second light-bulb failure. That would be because the proletariat would not allow him the funding or the opportunity to keep trying. So in the FREE United States, he kept spending his own money to keep trying. He eventually succeeded.
You need to understand people better and also grow some cynicism. It’s not bad nor negative but a healthier way to live. Thus, when you go buy a car, you won’t feel bad about being rude to the idiot salesman who’s trying to take you for all your money.
Can you or can you not come out and say that the guvment should NOT have helped folks during the Great Depression? You may not like to admit it, but many people needed help. I still haven’t gotten an answer to my question “Do you think we should have let a few million people starve or kill themselves so that we could have gotten out of the Depression earlier, or just because it is NOT the proper role of guvment to help people? Righties hate the fact that there was a permanent sea-change during the New Deal. Did the guvment screw up some? Of course, and it always will, but there ain’t no getting rid of it, until everything falls apart.
Take the trip D-White, check out that neck of the woods. LSD doesn’t count. Note how arid much of it is. Note how many more recent failed homesteads there are. Not a place to propped up to make it.
You pose 3 questions, with 3 different issues.
1. “Do you think we should have let a few million people starve or kill themselves so that…”
No. This is conjecture. It did not happen, and it is clear that what the government did was not helpful in the long term, 80 + years later. Certainly you help a person in need, short term, whether it’s from Uncle Sam or individuals. Most of the help then was from family members. However, you don’t help them to become helpless on the scale of the present, and allow the government to crush other alternatives by bogarting the joint, totally. The Road to Hell is paved with the labor of others.
2. “… we could have gotten out of the Depression earlier…”
Indeed. Much present economic thought centers on the idea that the government prolonged the Depression, with the late 30s being the worst period (no argument there), after FDR’s masterful 100 Daze, and after the height of the Dust Bowl. We live with that today, in part, with a $17 trillion legacy/debt launched during that time period.
3. “… or just because it is NOT the proper role of guvment to help people?”
Yes it can be proper. Again, don’t create helplessness so you can feel good now. I hang with Libs, D-White. Most are well off, some not so. It’s interesting how they “forget” about what their causes are, once they yell and scream a bit. They really do tend to gravitate to the “clean” things. They will not, in many cases, go where they get will their hands dirty, not beyond mouthing platitudes. There are some, to their credit, who do go there, and work hard. Unfortunately, it is usually with other people’s money, which is viewed by them as very moral, and as taking from those who “caused” the “problem”. Gives 2 birds with 1 stone.
In short, they should put their own money and energy where their mouth is, and not rely on the forced “kindness” of strangers.
“Too Few Oppressors, Too Many Victims”. That day has arrived.
The universe will enforce reality on all the fools living in their fantasy world, but, don’t expect the fools to ever grasp what they have done to themselves.
I believe the fools die believing their bs. That is why God has to get rid of them; they steadfastly refuse to accept reason.
Despite DiFi and others babbling in her defense, Susan Rice showed an absolute disregard for the truth on her infamous Sunday show appearances September 16.
She did Barack’s bidding in a loyalty tryout for Hillary’s position, which you can imagine others may have had the integrity to turn down the opportunity to go out and lie on behalf of the administration.
If you ever listened to Rice’s babbling repartee prior to the current UN gig, you would know that she would not be in such a position on her own merits and thus, like all the sycophants and surrogates, owes the boss.
The “racist and sexist” accusation for criticism of Rice, coming from about 10 Congresswomen, is simply an indication of how stupid and mendacious and ridiculous some Congresscritters have become. Some are a flagrant insult to human intelligence, like Maxine Waters.
With direct popular election and the 17th amendment, we’ve now got Senators like Al Franken and the nutty 1/32 Cherokee woman.
Thank their constituents. People like Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi reflect poorly on the people who vote for them.
No, they reflect perfectly the people who vote for them.
Somebody this year said and I paraphrase, “The nation can survive another 4 years of Obama, but it will not survive the electorate that voted for him.”
Maxine Waters is a genius compared to Shirley Jackson Lee, from Texas.
There would be a rebellion against the tribalization of America except…except that most of the tribes have no problem with it. I strain to hear blacks clamoring to be judged as individuals not blacks, same with hispanics, same with asians or orientals (whichever is the “correct” term), same with, I’m ashamed to say, white women, who have no problem being advantaged over the dreaded white male heterosexual tribe (the only tribe not thrilled with the whole idea). Sorry, but it’s happening because The Peoples, bless their hearts, want it.
I read Eric Holder will stay on, he guy who picks and chooses which laws to enforce, stuffs the justice dept. with ideologues, sues states for trying to enforce federal law, lies and dissembles on Fast & Furious.
Val Jarrett will be there pushing Barack this way and that, don’t get bin Laden, do get Q-Daffy, Val privy to inside information she has no business knowing.
Will we have 4 more years of the secretive sycophant at EPA, Lisa Jackson ? How much of our cash will Steven Chu dole out to green boondoggles, since Barack two days after his selection declared that AGW was worse than ever, despite there has been no warming in 16 years?
Timmy Geithner will stay at Treasury ? Yesterday, he recommended lifting the very notion that there is such a thing as a debt ceiling.
Who will win the battle for “control” over the internet, Julius Genachowski at the FCC or the wannabe world rulers/transnationalists at the UN ?
Ruled by morons.
White Americans are the only divided sub-group in America. We can’t agree on economics, culture, degree of religion in our lives. Non-white groups are divided too but are willing to put aside there differences in order to achieve common political goals. Why can’t we? That is the crux of the problem.
Because we have the wealth , or are so perceived. Thieves always band together, until it is time to divvy up the loot.
They’ve set up a Producers-style system in which each person is promised a lion’s share of the profits.
Of course, the irony is that African-Americans have been decimated by this president. Hispanics, too. But they’ve bought into the notion that if some elite person of their race (or gender) is in a high position, then they benefit…somehow.
Trickle-down social justice.
We may now be down to the hard core of 20-30 million bad old white male problem-makers who need to “get over it” and give others “their turn.”
That number is in the ballpark of what Bill Ayers estimated some years ago.
Funny, that.
Billy and friends advocated those 25 million or so “resisters” would have to be dispensed with, in the style of Mao or Stalin.
Those bad old white men in Rhodesia gave Robert Mugabe and his cronies ‘their turn.’
And now even former Mugabe supporters, pine for the good ole days, when their bellies were full, and they had jobs.
There is no such thing as a Debt Ceiling, the Petro Dollar system was created for that very reason. As long as Saudi Arabia pumps oil out of its sands, the US Banking system (and therefore the US government) will have access to unlimited credit lines. Tim Geithner was just stating the obvious. If you dont understand the Petro Dollar system please study it, its the reason your dollar is worth 11% of its 1973 value.
The GOP was set on its present course by Rove, Norquist, Limbaugh and the rest of its leadership in the W. Bush Administration. Gathering evangelicals with traditional Conservatives and the core together for elections was never going to last; the Candidate is forced to the far right during primaries, then must immediately shift to center left to win an Election.
It is an idiotic approach resulting in best forced out early, it will change or the GOP will keep losing elections and more importantly watch its power shrink each election cycle.
Change or wither…there is no other choice.
The change is withering the country. You haven’t noticed?
The truth is that the 60 million or so individuals who re-selected Obama are, euphemistically speaking, “low information voters” who have been conditioned into the nanny state.
Your debt ceiling “analysis” is questionable, at best.
The US military dollar, more precisely.
But nations are abandoning the Petro Dollar, the international trade dollar, and the dollar as reserve currency, and forming their own bilateral arrangments (check out China specifically), because they can see the writing on the wall.
Then I prefer to wither. As the system decays I will only have the very poor self satisfaction of saying I told you so AH.
The famous Wa-Ha-kans were mentioned to tweak all the big-thinkers back east.
I have a daughter (caucasian American) living in Oaxaca with her native Mexican husband and their children. She has been accepted by the indigenous tribe and loves the people and culture. I just visited her a few months ago, and truthfully I can understand why she loves it there and would go live there in a heartbeat.
A prayer to the Patron Saint of the Americas for your family:
‘Remember, O most gracious Virgin of Guadalupe, that in your apparitions on Mount Tepeyac you promised to show pity and compassion to all who, loving and trusting you, seek your help and protection.
Accordingly, listen now to our supplications and grant us consolation and relief. We are full of hope that, relying on your help, nothing can trouble or affect us. As you have remained with us through your admirable image,so now obtain for us the graces we need. Amen.’
Queen of Angels = pray for us.
Thank you! That is a beautiful prayer and I appreciate your sharing it with us.
I reckon all tribal roads eventually lead to Srebrenica:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
The only bright spot in all this (if there is one) is that all through history, socialism has failed. During the 20th century, the United States was the primary White Knight that kept millions of socialists from starving.
As in all instances, America’s experiment in socialism will fail. But there will be no America to bail us out. It will be painful, but we will survive it.
It’s not a question of if, but when. As far as I’m concerned, the sooner it collapses, the sooner we can get it back on track.
Exactly, so the question becomes do you want this to linger in 3rd world squalor like Cuba for half a century or more…..or we can adopt the Cloward Piven strategy and apply for maximum benefits, swamp the health care system with frivolous visits, etc. Bring it down.
And why should Heaven save you? Even you most-conservative of believers have long ago deserted apostolic restrictions that you find outdated and parochial. Very well, then. Try saving yourselves.
When last whites were confined to themselves Spain took over the New World, crushing the native empires to the point that today they claim the imposed spanish language and culture as their own.
And tiny England swept over the entire world, building an empire the Romans couldn’t even have imagined.
I think the world has forgotten this.
I am old line WASP. My line came to Back Bay in the 1630s. Others came later, but a common strand was a desire to escape Old World identity politics.
I personally loathe the whole thing as it reduces you to the lowest common denominator and makes you support the unsupportable. You loose your freedom of decision. Further, you make enemies.
Never for get that all group politics is based on hatred for outsiders of course, but also from a need to be hated as a means of keeping the group together. Armies commit atrocities so that it will make it harder to break ranks and quit. The Waffen SS had that down pat.
In our society you need to deal with a lot of different people. If your group loses sympathy, you can go whistle if you need help, or rather hope Obama rides to the rescue. I have personal knowledge of that.
Here in New Mexico, Hispanics are now an absolute majority, with Anglos and Indios being the two primary minorities. Out State Speaker of the House announced, when the Hispanic majority was determined, that being the majority would in no way change Hispanic minority status … for various benefits, handouts, and preferences. So — when is a majority a minority?
When it refuses to surrender its victim status.
“Here in New Mexico, Hispanics are now an absolute majority…”
Having lived in NM for most of my youth I thought this condition was met about 1960 since 60% of my HS class was Hispanic. Then again I lived only 50 miles from Mexico. Maybe all the non-Hispanics were over there near Texas back then.
In my home town of Santa Fe anglos only became a majority in 1996. Other places had other experiences. Take Espanola (please). Or Chimayo.
It was that all lived in pretty good harmony, then came the liberation of the civil rights act. The rest has been a downhill trend.
I left.
Where in New Mexico? I was raised in Tularosa, just 12 miles north of Alamogordo. 54 to 68. Dad worked at Holloman, quit Boeing, ran his own business, deadbeat file > than the active file, went bankrupt (thanks to the ratio of deadbeats:actives), returned to Missouri.
Among my friends were whites, Mexican Americans (the term in vogue at the time), Mescalero Apache, and one (ONE) black family. And we all got along (well, except for the chief of police…).
If one can stand the pain reading through all three pages of Dr. Hanson’s piece, pain caused by truth, one might be struck by the one-word obvious counter: individualism.
Here is my guiding cut-through :
“The smallest minority is the individual.” ~ Ayn Rand
Just a reminder.
Race/gender/sexuality are just the bullets.
The guys pulling the trigger on the country are the same old progressives, aka marxists, aka royalists, aka oligarchists who have been defecating on humanity while claiming divine goodness and guidance for the last ten thousand years.
Well said. Thank you for reminding of that the means are not the true ends here.
Personally, I prefer it when gov’ts fear people, not the other way around.
Typed too fast: Thank you for reminding US that the means are not the true ends…..pun intended
Just a reminder, the bullets worked. European Civilization has been taken over and destroyed. Time to protect yourselves outside of what were once our institutions, as disempowered and despised, if you wish to be a going concern. Or you can just go quietly to the trains. The choice is yours.
agreed. In fact, that is my latest theme as well.
Get used to it or get out.
(Which is not to say that one shouldn’t resist; just don’t go thinking that voting for republicans will make any difference whatsoever. That fantasy was shot in the head Nov 7, after RomneyRoveMcCainBushDole apent four months doing what lots of people predicted from the start…i.e., rolling over and handing the keys to the country to the anti-christ. Romney and the Republicans were and are the handmaidens of the liberals/marxists.)
Just a reminder, the bullets worked. European Christian Civilization has been taken over and destroyed. Time to protect yourselves outside of what were once our institutions, as disempowered and despised, if you wish to be a going concern. Or you can just go quietly to the trains. The choice is yours.
Thank you! I wish more people realized that the differences between a Pharoah, a King, a General Secretary or a Fuhrer are matters of style and not substance. Our “betters” have always been self-appointed arrogant thieves.
Obama is like FDR. He gives the underclass faith that the welfare state will hold together and even expand it.
The fact that the Euro welfare states are crumbling, does not sink into the average low information voter. Social Security and Medicare always have been there, and they always will, as long as Obama is in office.
Two fundamental truths (and one future certainty) to be remembered here, even during frustrating and distressing times such as these.
1) We are all children of God; He will be merciful to those who acknowledge Him. Remember the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount.
2) The Law of the Harvest cannot be superseded or cast away
3) This government does not transcend the Laws of God; their lies will only be hidden for so long; their true machinations WILL BE uncovered. Bank on this and move forward with faith, hope and love. God can take any situation and influence the outcome as He sees fit.
http://christiansocialscience.com/2012/09/the-forgotten-law/
I read these long, well written and well thought out articles and comments. There is some relief in finding there are others out there that think (not feel) as I do. However, the “low information voters” now rule and they can only read about 140 characters as in a Tweet or maybe slightly longer but it must be “texted” only. Their information input level is extremely limited and can only handle sound bites. If you don’t believe this then check with Obama, he figured it out in 2008 for sure but probably it was his years as a community organizer and his highly developed skill in following Saul Alinshy’s suggestions that made his methods so good at this low level of discussion.
I am very afraid those of us that can read and comprehend what VDH writes is a dying group.
INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY. The overarching issue is that America was, at its inception, a nation of sovereign individuals; and that we collectively granted LIMITED powers to our federal government.
The message of the left consisently attacks or undermines this concept of individual sovereignty. And their practice is to see us, as Mr. Hanson notes, as members of a union or political party; or, most importantly, as in need of stuff from government.
Whether we retreat to tribal paradigms is problematic. What is manifestly certain is that we need to re-assert individual sovereignty.
Victor Hansen keeps evoking race blindness as the true American ideal, not recognizing that the race blindness to which he is unquestioningly devoted produced the immigration policies which gave decisive political power in this country to race-conscious nonwhites and thus assured the doom of his own race-blind ideals. As I explained yesterday, right-liberalism leads automatically to left-liberalism, and the right-liberals never, ever grasp this.
Another way of putting this is that right-liberal (“conservative”) whites never look at nonwhites, never see them as human beings. They simply imagine that the nonwhites are just like them, sharing the same ideals. The right-liberal whites can never understand this criticism, because they think that to believe that the nonwhites are just like them is to see them as human beings, because all human beings are by nature right-liberals.
More and more are listening to sense, now that the writing is on the wall. Perhaps the Left and racialist groups cheerleading the death of majority white America will wake a few more up.
Warren’s lie was not just her own. When her ancestor claimed that his mother was Cherokee, it was done in order to be awarded land by the Federal government. There was great benefit in that era for being of American Indian descent – you got free stuff. You couldn’t move into Indian Territory unless you could prove you were of American Indian descent and the Cherokee of Oklahoma were pretty accommodating about that, so many Oklahomans can claim Cherokee blood, whether they have any or not. Warren’s ancestor was unable to convince the government, but the family hung onto the lie anyway, in hopes that eventually the government would buckle. A few generations later, it worked out for her.
When people claim Cherokee blood from Oklahoma, I take it with a grain of salt now. The Eastern Cherokee keep their rules tight, but out west, it is simply meaningless.
By the way, I am part of the oppressed Basque minority here in America. Wait, you haven’t heard how oppressed we are? That’s PROOF of how oppressed we are – no one even admits that we’re being oppressed!
What made America different? Well, in the United States of America, we have a group called “white people”.
In Europe, there are French, Germans, Spaniards, Greeks, etc. and so on and so forth. In America, the descendents of our common ancestors are “white people”.
And in Britain, the British still differentiate between Irish, Scots, Welsh, and English. The Spaniards are Catalonians, and others. The Belgians are Walloons and Flemish. And the differentiations among Italians are too numerous to name. In the United States, they are all “white people”.
Also, in Africa, there are Hutu’s, Xhosa, Zulu, and hundreds of others. Lumped together in America as “black people”.
America was the post-tribal society. And the Democrats are now, as they have always been, the party of group rights. And the Republicans, the party of individual rights. The Dems have simply changed what groups they favor. Group rights and individual rights cannot peacefully co-exist.
Good point, but as a Brit of English extraction I have to say that it is the Welsh, Scots and Irish who mostly want to be independent of England, though gradually this is dawning on the English who can see that the parliament in London can be influenced and even ruled by sectional/regional interests but the English themselves do not have any such voice, other than as part of a union.
The Scots, Welsh and Irish have gained their devolved assemblies and to some degree law-making abilities though they often want more, such as independence of all London influence (except when it comes to hand outs, of course).
Where is this relevant to America? Simply that all these groups and sections, while initially working together for a say in the current power base, will slowly fracture into their component parts and interests. True, the handouts will keep them together in some fashion, but there will be a slow gathering towards their own interests. The Latino section may in time not want to play nicely with the Black section when it comes to who gets what and when and in time they will form their own parties and groups, perhaps even standing against the Democrats who rely on them this time round as all being ‘as one.’
We have started to see this in England when an upstart political party pushed forward the otherwise unappealing cat-pretending Galloway to represent a largely muslim area — a man who said his subsequent election was the will of God, which was amazing for a once-avowed marxist.
Britain’s Labour party wanted to have a lot of people of one religious persuasion in this country, and unfettered immigration allowed that. At first it benefitted the Blair and Brown-led party to bring in a large block vote who would not question anything other than what was in it for them and collectively vote for the left, but the emergence of the Respect party is fuelling the islamists into thinking they are separate from the mainstream of British life and deserve, they might argue, separation in lots of ways.
The Democrat scheme to use currently disparate groups to elect Obama, offering so much appeal and benefits to factions who for now profess to be ‘together’ is sure to go the same way. Labour in the UK, who lost a working-class seat to Respect and may lose more, will in time regret their plan to garner support by pandering to these sectional interest groups who in turn will reject the ‘traditional’ in favour of their own policies and candidates.
The Dems will become the ‘traditional’ and lose ground. Of course, the ones with money won’t care as they have their way out of the mess but the rank and file Dems will feel the pain.
Relatives laughed when my mother (age 95) called herself an Indian princess. I guess I missed my chance to capitalize on that.
Some black congressman complained that certain words were a white code for black people….lazy was the only word I remember. Will we be deprived of the use of those words as we have been of “gay”…which used to be sort of synomymous with happy, cheery and having a good time.
Political correctness as perceived by some individuals is depriving us of our freedom of speech.
Speaking as a middle-class white male who voted for Obama: spare me your crocodile tears and concern trolling. The GOP has made racial division its entire modus vivendi for almost 50 years. It’s just starting to backfire arithmetically.
Oh please. Just admit you’re a liberal & be done with it; there’s enough drama in the world as it is.
good luck with that no tax pledge, Mr. “middle class”.
But of course, as a liberal, you WANT your taxes to go up, don’t you. You’ll get 2 bucks on the dollar in those yummy gubamint services for every 1 you throw in, just like it’s been working in Greece for three decades now.
Another scathing critic who writes no criticism of Victor’s article at all. I don’t see any, do you?
Changing demographics aside, if you can’t get the population to at least vote in a mediocre government at the national level then maybe you’ve got a serious problem there. By any measure Obama isn’t qualified to be where he is, but is he where he is largely because of changing demographics? The left wants the rest of us to believe the answer to this is yes.
But it also happens to be the operative intention of the organized left to demoralize the part of America that disagrees with it—combined with voter fraud it worked well enough in the swing states. But there’s a limit to how much bad government, bad leaders people can take, no matter how manipulative the former happens to be.
The argument that no president since T. Roosevelt has had a successful second term works against Obama having a successful second and the fact that he’s front-loaded with at least as many problems as Bush prior to his second says that he isn’t likely to have one. So, it’s going to be interesting to see what Democrats and the left do to save Obama from history…and himself.
Seccession is the only way forward for American Conservatives.
Identity politics is merely the handmaiden of Socialism. Dr. Hanson complicates the matter unnecessarily. The Civil/Equal Rights movement, having achieved equality of opportunity, morphed into a Socialist movement when equality of opportunity did not generate equality of result.
Since WWII, Socialism has been a tough sell in the US. But re-branded as Equality and Multi-culturalism, it has found a new audience and a new legitimacy, cloaked as it is now in faux Moral Righteousness. It’s the same old crap and will fail the same old way – it doesn’t deliver the goods.
Very insightful article as usual from Dr. Hanson, but one thing that bugs me is the use of this new word, “racialist”, to describe this new obsession with race. The GOP is too white, too old, too male, they say. They don’t care enough about my particular minority group, they say, blah, blah, ad infinitum.
Just call it what it is – Racism, straight up. Sorry, but in my book, if race factors in any way into your decision of who to vote for, or who not to vote for, you’re a racist. Why try to hide it with weasel words?
It never got here. Oh, a lot of people were certain that’s what they were voting for, but it was never on the table, as can be seen when any criticism is leveled at the Administration. Any criticism is equated to “racism, end of discussion now go away you slave owner.”
A new tyranny is coming. Currently it’s still soft and imperceptible to many ‘low-information’ citizens but it’s there. When it hardens, as it surely will, it will be more oppressive than anything seen in the past, mainly because of the all pervasive creep of technology into every aspect of our lives.
Back in the days of Nottingham, one could easily avoid the sheriff’s men and duck into Sherwood Forest. Where will the escape be in a society where everything you do, every transaction you make, is so easily monitored? I think a second darkness is falling. One that will make the earlier Dark Ages seem sunny by comparison.
I want to find a quiet, out of the way place in the country and let history pass me by.
Break it down to it’s simplist parts for a clue to better understanding.
1st: Hyphenated Americans – Think of an old whore trying to work both sides of the street.
2nd: Afirmative Action – Holding different enthnic groups or genders to different standards – Always lower. (merit is not to be considered)
3rd: Tribalism – Just notice all the tatoos and body-piercings today. (there’s a woman cop in my town whose arms look like my grandmother’s wall paper)
WTF.
Possibly way off-topic. Dr. Hanson started this piece: “Since the election, some fatalistic Washington conservative elites . . . ” One observes that a number of pundits and their responders on this and other conservative-oriented websites are more frequently using the term “elite” when referring to politicians, academics, bureaucrats and other seeming high-ranking muck-mucks who might more appropriately be referred to as elitists. The term elite connotes, to me, cream of the crop. Seems like the term elitist might be more accurate, connoting the presumption of excellence rather than actual acheived excellence. Any input on this notion will be appreciated.
“Criminal” is more descriptiive than elite or elitist.
***Accordingly, the enlightened and redeemable liberal elements of the otherwise now played-out old white majority, when combined with the new ethnic minorities, will result in a permanent progressive majority***
The problem with this is that Hanson ignores the reality of differences in educational and socio-economic outcomes. Those are going to be a major problem for places like California and elsewhere. As David Frum noted:
“Many Americans carry in their minds a family memory of upward mobility, from great-grandpa stepping off the boat at Ellis Island to a present generation of professionals and technology workers. This story no longer holds true for the largest single U.S. immigrant group, Mexican-Americans.
Stephen Trejo and Jeffrey Groger studied the intergenerational progress of Mexican-American immigrants in their scholarly work, “Falling Behind or Moving Up?”
They discovered that third-generation Mexican-Americans were no more likely to finish high school than second-generation Mexican-Americans. Fourth-generation Mexican-Americans did no better than third.
If these results continue to hold, the low skills of yesterday’s illegal immigrant will negatively shape the U.S. work force into the 22nd century.
The failure to enforce the immigration laws in the 1990s and 2000s means that the U.S. today has more poorly skilled workers, more poverty and more workers without health insurance than it would have generated by itself.”
If I was a politician depending on buying the votes of Mexican Americans with other people’s money, I would call you a racist for saying that.
In Lawrence Auster’s brilliant Huddled Cliches: Exposing the Fraudulent Arguments That Have Opened America’s Borders to the World ( http://jtl.org/auster/Huddled/Huddled.html ), he quotes a Japanese economist who had an op-ed in the San Franciso Examiner back in 1991 anticipating the likely economic dysfunction of the United States as its demography changes. Here’s the quote:
“Do blacks and Hispanics, for instance, have the skills and knowledge to run an advanced industrial economy? If the answer is yes, America will maintain its vitality through the next century and beyond. But I’m skeptical.
“To compete in a high-tech age dominated by microelectronics requires a disciplined, well-trained labor force. Brilliant inventors and innovative engineers are not enough. Workers themselves must be highly motivated and equipped to meet the stringent norms of standardization imposed by precision-perfect high-tech manufacturing.
“Blue-collar employees have to work steadily, day in and day out, at jobs requiring great concentration and manual dexterity. They must continually hone skills and improve personal performance and products through quality control.
“Unfortunately, relatively few national groups meet these exacting requirements. I doubt that many African or Latin American countries, for instance, will become high-tech societies in the foreseeable future…. [T]he experience of the last 500 years leaves little room for hope. Blacks and Hispanics will not be able to run a complex industrial society like the United States unless they dramatically raise their sights and standards in the next 40 years.
“Burdened with a handicap of this magnitude, how will the United States cope?”
Or as Alex Aleviev noted in NRO a few years ago:
“Perhaps even more important than the collapse of educational achievement among the lower strata is a deterioration of the higher education that was for decades the basis of California’s preeminence in science and technology. California currently ranks 40th among the 50 states in college-attendance rates, and it already faces a significant shortage of college graduates. Studies have shown that the economy will need 40 percent of its workers to be college-educated by 2020, compared with today’s 32 percent. Given the aging white population (average age, 42), many of these new graduates will have to come from the burgeoning Latino immigrant population (average age, 26). By one estimate, this would require tripling of the number of college-educated immigrants, an impossibility if current trends hold. The state’s inability to improve the educational attainment of its residents will result in a “substantial decline in per capita income” and “place California last among the 50 states” by 2020, according to a study by the National Center for Higher Education Management Systems…
One myth is that because America is a country of immigrants and has successfully absorbed waves of immigration in the past, it can absorb this wave. But the argument neglects two key differences between past waves and the current influx. First, the immigrant population is more than double today what it was following the most massive previous immigration wave (that of the late 19th century). Second, and much more important, as scholars from the Manhattan Institute have shown, earlier immigrants were much more likely to bring with them useful skills. Some Hispanic immigrants certainly do integrate, but most do not. Research has shown that even after 20 years in the country, most illegal aliens (the overwhelming majority of whom are Hispanic) and their children remain poor, unskilled, and culturally isolated they constitute a new permanent underclass.
Perhaps the most disingenuous myth about illegal immigrants is that they do not impose any cost on society. The reality is that even those who work and half do not, according to the Pew Hispanic Center cannot subsist on the wages they receive and depend on public assistance to a large degree. Research on Los Angeles immigrants by Harvard University scholar George J. Borjas shows that 40.1 percent of immigrant families with non-citizen heads of household receive welfare, compared with 12.7 percent of households with native-born heads. Illegal immigrants also increase public expenditures on health care, education, and prisons. In California today, illegal immigrants’ cost to the taxpayer is estimated to be $13 billion half the state’s budget deficit.
The state should stop providing welfare and other social services to illegal aliens as existing statutes demand and severely punish employers who break the law by hiring illegal immigrants. This would immediately remove powerful economic incentives for illegal immigration, and millions of illegal aliens would return to their countries. Instead, with President Obama in the White House and the Democrats controlling Congress, an amnesty for the country’s 13 million illegal immigrants may be soon to come.”
Finally, the comments of Lawrence Auster about John Podhoretz may also apply:
“John Podhoretz, the only son of Pope Norman I and his successor as editor of Commentary, was a guest this morning on Joe Scarborough’s program. He said that Romney lost because he didn’t reach out to groups such as Hispanics. He went on to declare that the Republicans can win the Hispanic vote, if they will just change their position on illegal immigration.
But what else can he say? If he admits that the great majority of Hispanics will never be Republican voters, he would be admitting that (a) the hugely expanded Hispanic population which (b) has been created by the mass Third-World immigration which (c) John Podhoretz, his father, and the entire neocon movement have truculently supported for the last several decades (d) has doomed America to be a leftist country.
It should never be forgotten: Right-liberalism, of which neoconservatism is a subset, leads automatically to left-liberalism. Right-liberalism says that culture, ethnicity, and race do not matter, because we are all universal individuals who have the right to equal freedom with all other human beings. On this basis, the right-liberals open their country’s borders to all of humanity. But humanity does not consist of universal individuals. It consists of various cultures, ethnicities, and races all of which have particular identities, characteristics, ability levels, values, and agendas which are different from those of the host society. As a result, the mass presence of those different groups in the host society, far from advancing right-liberal equal freedom, empowers their unassimilable identities, characteristics, ability levels, values, and agendas, and thus changes the host country from a right-liberal society into a multicultural, left-liberal, racial-socialist society whose ruling principle is equality of outcome for all groups.”
Lawrence Auster nails it.
Pathway to citizenship for Mexican National disrespectors of US law and sovereignty is the death knell, from which we cannot recover as a nation.
As it is, succession may be necessary for at least part of the nation to retain the rule of law and the principles of our Constitution.
Mr. Hansen left out the newest most prominent poster child for this new cult of victim hood, Ms. Sandra Fluke. I’m sure he considered penning a few lines about her, but thought better of it. But perhaps he’s right….maybe if we never mention her name again, we can free ourselves of her tedium. Of all the wonderful young women who might have been featured in a prominent speaking role at the DNC, ( Olympic athletes, young businesswomen, Iraq or Afghanistan war veterans, daughters of undocumented who have beat the odds in any number of endeavors, today left wingers gave us Ms. Fluke. I have no personal axe to grind with her, but any woman savvy and smart enough to make it to Georgetown law can surely scrape together some allowance to make sure she provides herself with the necessary woman’s health devices readily and inexpensively available. Yet there she was in prime time lamenting about her nearly inhumane treatment at the hands of some mythological old white guys. If it didn’t have such dire consequences for the health of our nation, her foolishness could be fodder for SNL writers. The entire episode while a brilliant political tactic lapped up by the gullible Chris Matthews types is so profoundly perverse and disingenuous it sickens me.
And righties seemed baffled when their attacks on Fluke boomeranged. It was a foreshdowing of their being relatively out of touch with how the majority of women would react.
Indeed. Which is why universal enfranchisement in general and women’s suffrage in particular was a really bad idea. Our system of government has been feminized.
It is what it is. You have to play the cards you are dealt. This goofy grumbling about woman being able to vote shows that the world has done gone up and left you behind.
I’m surprised at you Dwight, claiming you know women’s minds. But Fluke’s idiotic claim that others, the half of the country still paying income taxes rather than paying nothing or receiving welfare through the tax system, owe her, have a duty to subsidise her demands for birth-free sexual activities. Surely you yourself don’t buy into that nonsense.
Most married women probably reacted to Fluke the same way as the woman I’m married to did. Fluke is a slut who wants us to pay for her play.
The gender gap is not real- the married gap is.
We are no reaching a point where liberalism has been utterly expended. All that is now left are gay rights, contraceptive rights and the absurd notion that illegal aliens are not breaking the law.
But how utterly absurd are these causes? In the USA, gay people can get married wheresoever and whensoever they wish. The notion that their ability to wed is obstructed is false.
Alas, this is a caricature of leftists. Intelligent leftists are not dishonest enough to argue that gay marriage is obstructed, yet this notion is implicitly put forth through their advocacy.
Does this not show that in order for gay marriage to gain any sort of traction among the masses, it must be ‘dressed up’ — made to appear more oppressive than it actually is?
Indeed.
And is this not central to all modern liberal causes? The war on women, for example, is now a cliche; but what does this even mean? The notion that it is a war is clearly absurd and clearly not believed by intelligent leftist, yet this is what is implicitly put forth, and thus what riles up the masses.
Did we not see the same with Romney? He was ‘dressed up’ — made to appear more oppressive than what actually is; and did not this caricature crumble when the masses saw him go toe to toe with Obama?
VDH excellent article.
I feel left out. I am not black, not gay, not latino, not pregnant with an unwanted child.
Really just left out… Is there a group for Senior white Christian Conservative Happily married mother of 3? Let me know… lol
Do not follow VDH, his neo-conservative views will corrupt your thinking to clear conservatism. Follow and support people like Pat Buchanon, and James Ecdwards. Take it from a reformed ditto-head.
Robert
“if you know the ethnic composition of the electorate you also know the election result.” If you know the ethnic composition you also know the crime rate.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/333583/tribal-america-mark-steyn#
Mark Steyn
Call the waaabulance. Poor put upon white males crying a river.
Let me guess – you’re a virgin, aren’t you?
LULZ!
Yes, he is. But soon he’ll have pubic hair and need to shave.
I always thought orcs were green? After 4 years of Obama our nation has never been more divided. After 4 more years the racial and sex divides may take 100 years to heal. Obama is the most negative, divisive, incompetent, and arrogant President in all of U.S. history, and we are stuck with 4 more years of what has almost become outright hate!
Civil society is a term of past tense. Words have no power.
Most of the folks in our white, but hardly in the 1% family are doing fine. Is that why I don’t share a lot of this tribal resentment. Yeah some stuff is going on out there, but I don’t obsess over it. I don’t see us falling behind these “tribes,” who are supposedly getting all these advantages, but then we live in New England.
You live in New England? I thought you once wrote you lived in Alaska.
Only a certain part of D-White’s wishes that “it” could reside in “Alaska”.
Dwight…
“I have been to Wasilla, though, if only passing through. As I recall, I bought boots and firecrackers at Fred Meyer. What did you get; a latte, maybe Preparation H?
As for lust for Sarah-poo, alas, the “folksy/twangy” bit is a serious turn-off. She is a beautiful woman, but once she opens her mouth…aaargh!”
October 20, 2010 – 5:05 pm
A short ditty based on The Nuance –
lust for Sarah-poo, alas,
is serious
She is a beautiful woman
opens her mouth…
have to admit that,
swollen streams,
splintered
butt, who knows?
Happy Thanksgiving you nostalgia hound, you! Recently, having worn out other boots, I have taken to wearing my work boots which were purchased at the Fred Meyer in Wasilla, now many moons ago, and have them on as I sit here, chatting so amiably with you. As for Sarah-Pooh, it would take a real disaster for her to get major national elective office, but stranger things have happened. Once she gets Art Chance on her side, there will be no stopping her. ;-)
So your contribution is to knock Art and Sarah and plug Fred Meyers’ work boots store?
You may wonder why I use so much energy on you, Dwight. I am also a sentimental lug and so I suspect that you are not like so many of the 100%-feelings trolls who stop by here. Sometimes you show a streak of thinking that must trouble your feelings mightily. You might wake up a conservative one day…maybe. “Until that day, Eustis, until that day.”
http://www.ovguide.com/soldier-in-the-rain-9202a8c04000641f80000000009ed621
How am I knocking Art?
Barack Obama and the Democratic Party have worked tirelessly to balkanize America along racial, ethnic and gender lines in order to gain victory at the ballot box.
Unfortunately, it works.
They may come to regret their tactics some day as it may backfire on them. What works for them, for now, in national elections may not be so successful at the State and Local Levels. For the sake of our Republic, I hope so.
Think things are bad now brothers? Just wait until we hail to President Hillary Clinton. Feminism is the root of liberal progressivism. Males are being relegated to the back seat in this society. Useful second class idiots. The gender issue is of far more concern than race. Gen’l Patraeus was overwhelmed by circumstance that would not have been presented to previous generations in the manner it was in his case. Not sure if gender based divisions constitute tribalism but you can only go against human nature so far. I would guess the continuing spiral downward might make the gender pendulum swing in the other direction as times get tougher.
I don’t think there’s any positive outcome to all of this.
There’s only one question worth answering at this point – a question I submit to all of you:
Which states seem to be most likely to actually follow thru on a call for seccession? Because, frankly, that’s a state I want to make my home.
My guess is – in order of likelihood:
1. Texas
2. Utah/Idaho (tie)
3. Wyoming
4. Montana
5. Arizona
Anyone see it differently?
How could things come to this? I was raised to think racism is evil, shameful and stupid – and this idea goes back 3 generations in my Italian American roots. How could such an un-American HORROR be spawned so easily in a country such as this???????
I despair for the end of all that my 3 generations of Americans worked and strived for. I despair to see all of it so…….desecrated.
Perhaps I’m just a fool. But I feel horror at what’s happened to my country.
If we seceded think of all we’d miss: Obamacare, amnesty for illegals, the EPA, affirmative action, the TSA, Nancy Pelosi, etc.
Deo Vindice!
Your not a fool!
“You can see a lot by just looking.”
— Yogi Berra
But I’m tellin’ ya – I don’t understand!
I remember when I was a kid back in NJ, my dad and I were picking apples off the tree we had in the backyard. It was late october and getting cold.The high that day was maybe 50-53, with a very cloudy sky and an on and off drizzle coming down. The tree went nuts that year and produced enough apples to cover Kansas a foot deep – it was amazing. They were delicious apples, too, I kid you not.
Anyways: a korean family had moved in directly across the street about two months before. They were very quiet, almost invisible. My folks had been looking for a way to introduce themselves for a bit, so my dad sent me over to their house with a nice big crate of apples.
Nobody was home except the grandparents of the man of the house. Their english was a bit limited, but I said hello, explained myself and handed over the crate of apples. They were flabberghasted and did everything they could to drag me into the house to have some tea. I very, very politely declined (repeatedly) and explained I had to get back to my Dad and help him finish picking apples from the tree.
We became friends with that family, as you might expect.
But someone please help me understand:
Why am I now considered ‘the Enemy’ by the political operatives of the progressives operating with latino, asian and black leftist special interest groups???
I defy ANYONE to prove me wrong when I say that any lingering fragments of ‘institutional’ racism in America died out in the late 60′s and thru the 70′s thru the efforts of my parent’s and grandparent’s generation. That was over FORTY YEARS AGO.
Where do progressives get off saying that this crap is still alive and well, and how could they be so certifiably insane and thoroughly execrable to accuse any of the last THREE generations of “White people” of being the culprits of their imaginary victimization?
Are we doomed to undergo the same kinds of psychotic excesses inflicted on France by Robespierre and his cohorts?
It’s alive and well because the socialists keep tilling the soil of its grave.
Eventually, people (not individual persons) will come to realize that the profit will run out when the obvious failures of socialism begin to take hold. Actually, after those failures are deeply entrenched. It’s a sad case but history tends to repeat itself.
Victor, you’re either being deliberately obtuse, or you really don’t understand what identity politics is, at all. The reason it worked for Democrats so well this time, and the reason the GOP had better get with the program is that identity politics is about eliminating tribalism — not promoting it — by accepting the fact that people of different backgrounds often have different common values and interests and therefore different priorities. By not realizing that simple fact, the GOP is the one that is, in fact, practicing tribal politics by only focusing on the interests, and values of one diminishing tribe: middle aged white people. That’s neither a winning strategy, nor is it an acceptable way to make public policy in a large, growing, federal republic made up of people of many different backgrounds.
Insightful
Yet your wrong. Republicans Whites are the only group truly trying to judge by content of character and not the color of skin. Its seems the democrates left white males out of their focus tribes, I guess the Whites are left to pay for the other tribes. Republicans are in the process of rapidly going the way of the Whig party. Republicans think that pandering to the left will pull people to the right rather than moving the party to the left. Just by making a statment like this im considered a raciss. By liberal stantards i’m a huge bigot, because I believe whites have interests that are worth defending just like every other group.
And they still fail to understand that people who prefer big government in their native lands are always going to prefer big government in the lands they’ve invaded. This is as true of Californians moving to Texas and Massachusetts residents moving to New Hampshire as it is of Malaysians and Mexicans moving to the USA. Very few people are abstract or long-term thinkers. Most people want the wealth produced by a society with limited government distributed to them more generously by bigger government.
The fact that this happens to be a contradiction when viewed from a long term perspective is totally irrelevant. The locust doesn’t stop to think about the consequences of stripping the field bare, especially when all the other locusts are busily devouring everything in sight. He’ll worry about next year when it arrives. America always had its share of native locusts, but they were always outnumbered by the ants and they were not capable of rendering the fields barren. Now, their numbers have been significantly boosted by immigration, but the Republican Party cannot hope to retain its viability by reaching out to the new locusts and attempting to convincing them that they are ants.
Romney lost for two reasons. He was too moderate for his white traditional base and there are too many new big government voters in the electorate. Republicans might complain that libertarians and conservatives staying home cost them a number of elections in 2012, including the presidential one, but then, that’s exactly what increasing numbers of libertarians and conservatives have warned they would do ever since George W. Bush revealed himself to be a fake conservative.
Vox Day
The GOP is going to fall flat on its face in 2016: Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Susana Martinez, Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal, Jeb Bush, Nikki Haley, etc.
Who cares? If that’s the choice, then I am voting for Reality.
JimK,
Yeah, common values. That must be the reason the Obama campaign tailored emails to target each demographics seperate concerns, cus everyone has the same priorities. Yeah right.
So all white people can be lumped together?
I hate ta tell ya, pal, but back east where I grew up, we were italian, irish, german, dutch, french, armenian, puerto rican, anglo, greek, filipino, korean, polish, and (primarily) russian jewish families, all living together.
Yet we were all Americans. We all went to school together, we all started the school day with the pledge of allegiance, we played in municipal sports leagues together, we were in the boy scouts together, we went to each other’s churches or barmitzvah’s as it applied, we all spoke ENGLISH together no matter what we spoke at home, and
WE
WERE
ALL
AMERICANS.
EVERYTHING about Progressivism is as Anti-American as it comes.You divide us, you foment HATRED, COVETOUSNESS AND ENVY between us, you make DEMANDS on one group at the behest of another to correct some imaginary injustice or inequality which is just jealousy and the greed of the mob masquerading as egalitarianism……………
YOU ARE PURPOSEFULLY DESTROYING ALL OF US SO THAT YOU CAN RULE OVER ALL – the legal authority of government & the courts and the financial power of the economy all in your hands, along with your vainglorious presumption of ethical and moral authority.
I only pray that I live long enough to see the day where you are brought to Utter Ruin. I also grieve that the long road to that day will be littered with the devastation of the lives of countless people of all races, creeds and colors who will be taken in by your sanctimonious narcissism disguised as egalitarianism.
You lead us – not just us ‘middle aged white guys’, as you said with such casual bigotry, but every citizen of the country – to an age of darkness, grinding poverty, hopelessness, corruption, want,injustice and despair. Such is the inevitable result when those who were once protected from each other’s excesses by the rule of law and it’s impartial justice are instead subject to the madness, cruelty, flimsy excuses for vengeance and winner-take-all absolutism of the crazed mob driven by the will to power, demagoguery and cynical opportunism that flowers from the rule of Men.
Actually, I left out a few. In our neighborhood, we also had vietnamese (right next door, in fact – our families became friends), chinese, japanese, blacks and cubans. And we never thought anything of it.
How I weep for my country.
You left out one thing. If there is no unifying ideology or culture anymore we are just a collection of unrelated warring pressure groups.
This country will be just like all the others, unified by blood and soil. If there is no unification by blood, then there will be blood on the soil. How do you think all of these countries became largely monoracial?
The guy that wrote this article is one very sick, twisted, racist dude. There isn’t enough intelligence in the article to discuss, or argue with. I think,he thinks, if he uses enough big words, enough vague references that most people aren’t familiar with, well….. he might fool a few people. NOT THIS ONE!
He had lunch with an old schoolmate and lifelong friend who is latino, openly stated he had more in common with him than he did with ‘middle aged white’ progressives……….and he’s a RACIST?
I hope you’re just trolling.
If not – do the world a favor and go swimming off a California beach next to a colony a sea lions. The great whites might enjoy a change of menu.
Rick, you are a god. You are so smart!!!!
Rick, dude. Hey, whoah, one sick hella twisted reply on your part too, dude. Peace out…
Notice, Rick did not refute one single word of Victor’s piece. He just can’t stand the truth.
Tribalism does not equal ethnicity. And all the LeftDems wanting to make it so can’t do it.
Fact. In my work environment I associate primarily with whites, Indians, and other Asians (and some Latinos). And we all get along very very well. And I have more in common with the Indians and Asians than I do with various subgroups of “whites” — including the urban Lefties or the “Honey Boo Boo” tribe.
Fact. As a white man I am the toughest, smartest, and most bad ass man in the arena. So no I don’t care about the Lefties and their stupid games. All they do is f*ck over themselves and their foolish followers. No matter what, I will not only survive but thrive.
Fact. All groupings of peoples are mere conceptualizations — they are not really real. If someone wants to think of themselves as black, or gay, or whatever — they are only screwing themselves over. I am an individual. I associate with individuals. I respect them as individuals — and they damn well respect me.
Too much sniveling and fearmongering in these posts about how all us whites have to tribe up. That’s a pile of crap. I tribe with people who I respect and who respect me, and they come from multiple ethnicities and countries.
Excellent point. It makes me wonder why so many of the posters here are so blustery, so bitter. Is life not going well for them? Have they suffered terrible defeats? I can understand VDH’s bitterness about the family farm/vineyard/orchard becoming greatly diminished as the country goes to hell around him, but I get the feeling if there were a vibrant, energetic family on that same land, they would be doing what they had to to make it work.
“Notice, Rick did not refute one single word of Victor’s piece. He just can’t stand the truth.”
Substitute Dwight for Rick and repeat. I thank you.
Quislings always think they’re the other team’s favorites. Only when they get put up against the wall do they realize that both sides hated them.
Multiracial societies are a mistake. The idea that race does not matter is an asumption of enlightenment thinking that mistakenly believed that people are “rational.” They are not. Politics is collectivism and just accept that. I have one friend who is Chinese and all my other friends are my own race. Is this a mistake, or did I just subconsciously pick them because I could assume that I could trust them more than “people who did not look like me.” You can have splendid close friendships with people of other races, but in a political setting it will revert to group identity.
People are animals and are products of evolution so it’s hardly surprising that they would stick with their own breed. People are inherently tribal.
As Ayn Rand said, and I’m paraphrasing, “When a man finds that he is of no moral or metaphysical significance he joins a gang. And the easiest gang to join is the one given by his race, the fact of immutable biology.” In politics, one finds they are of no moral or metaphysical significance. You often hear it expressed in the lament, “My vote doesn’t count!”
Small, you make a very good case. One can only hope you are wrong, a hope against the whip of experience.
When Sandra Fluke begged Pharoah Obama to ensure that her va-jay-jay (Oprah’s term, not mine) would be well cared for at public expense, and the majority of the population defended her, I knew instinctively that we were doomed.
If Republicans are now determined to be more like Democrats, perhaps Chris Christie could share the details of his next prostate exam before the 2014 mid-terms.
I say the hell with them.
R Daneel
“Though my DNA is Irish/Welsh white male I now declare (under the E. Warren rule) that I am a Hispanic unmarried female. That should do it.”
Meanwhile your moniker suggests you might prefer being regarded as an extraterrestrial robot!
I keep seeing this phrase or a variation of it–
“…and I have more in common with >ramdom minority group< than a lot of white people"
And not a one of you realises that this is a thing white people say.
Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms Random Minority isn't thinking this. At best, thy're thinking that they're surprised they had anything in common with a white person.
The very idea that a person should be judged as an individual comes from white people–and they are so smug, so blind, that they can't even entertain the idea that someone might think differently about that core precept.
And that's why we are where we are.
“There will be 38 Democrats and 15 Republicans representing California in Congress come January. Of those 38 Democrats, 18 are women, nine are Latinos, five are Asian Americans, three are African Americans, four are Jews and at least one is gay. Just 12 are white men”
38 minus 18(women)+9(Latino)+5(Asian)+3(Black)+4(Jews)+1(gay)=?12? REALLY???
I guess those Latinos and Jews and the gay must also count as white? Double counting – just like the votes? No wonder California is so screwed when this is how Dems there add up!
I tried to read the VD Hanson article. He goes on and on about how Political Correctness has manifest itself in appointments to the State Department, the Supreme Court etc. Hanson’s point seems to be that the grievance industry is out of touch with reality, that it really needs to become more rational. He points out that the Susan Rice appointment is unjustified. She is unqualified, that she is incompetent, that its just plain wrong that she lies so much. Has Hanson never heard of the reelection of Marion Barry? Coleman Young? Robert Mugabe? How is that it never occurs to him that incompetence mixed with delusion is the preeminent black characteristic? The truth is that the more Rice can be unfazed by failure, and the more truth has no claim on her, the more she is likely to be promoted to high positions in and black- and liberal- ruled America. Can Hanson name one black-run country or city that does not fail in precisely the way that Obama has failed? One? But Hanson can never come to clear judgment on anything. Its always the same shambling, good-natured, moralizing vagueness that 100 years ago would have had him pegged as a “big dumb Swede.”
Hey edy, your brown shirt and armband are ready for the little parade. Don’t forget to re-ink your SS tattoo. Though some of what you say may have elements of truth, the majority is just buxxxxit.
It would be useful for someone to read a couple of typical Hansen articles and analyze them step by step to show how pointless they are. His articles appear in an unceasing jet, and 95 percent of the time he says absolutely nothing of substance, just the same complaints (always about liberals’ bad character, not about the substance of their ideas) that go nowhere, yet people keep reading him.
“It would be useful for someone to read a couple of typical Hansen articles and analyze them step by step to show how pointless they are.”
But you lack the capacity to do the analysis, but instead whine and moan. You seem to keep coming back like a moth to a flame.
If his essays and books had no substance, no one would read them except progressives. Hence, your mud-slinging doesn’t stick. Also – you’re a troll. If I was such a twit as to actually peruse the frothingly polemical demagoguery and vitriolic scripture of Soros-funded progressive websites, I’m sure I’d see you posting under another moniker, linking back to your post here and screeching “Look what I found on another teabagger site, see what RACIST SCUM THEY ARR!”
Fred – I would like to put Edy’s question in slightly different form to you: Can you name one black-run country or city that is successful?
Also, since we’re on the subject, can you answer a another question? Why doesn’t anybody say that Detroit needs more non-blacks, or that China needs more non-Chinese? Like the way we always hear that Des Moines, Idaho or Ireland are too white and need more non-whites, because “diversity” is our strength and all that good stuff.
Nevermind, the answer is: diversity is a code word for white-genocide.
Are you going to call me a nazi for pointing this out? Or are you capable of having reasonable discussions?
If tribal identity is really to be the currency of the New America, then all I can say is white people better get together and develop a tribal identity real quick.
Thank you, Mr. Hanson, for once again speaking the unvarnished truth. It was a breath of fresh air in the midst of our nightmare. I live my country. I just don’t know where she’s hiding.
Problem is that you misunderstand race and racism, it is not about a tribe it is about power.
Interestingly you refer to Ancient Greek writers as ‘white males’.
1) In the USA South, some states mandated Greek immigrants go to Black schools. So much for Greeks being White
2) Those Ancient Greeks did not identify themselves as Whites even as they fought the Persians. It is you who labels them Whites and in that single move, you center Whiteness, not humanity. You actually more than Obama or any liberal, create the division. In other words, you use an unconscious and unnecessary racial frame in your perspectives. For post-racial to work, you have to let that mindset go or you continue to unconsciously support the racist order.
I will leave your minimisation of gender inequality but the same flaws in logic are clear.
Laughable.
It is not VDH who is labelling Greeks as ‘white’, but your progressive comrades in academia who belittle classical studies as being ‘white man’s history.’ A non-brainwashed reader would have understood that without being told.
And – your gender inequality claims are just another progressive canard.
How sad.