The Philosophies of Illegal Immigration
Should there now be 6 million Korean nationals — and more on their way — inside California without legality, would the proverbial Hispanic community in large part be calling for stricter border enforcement? Would it be amnesty or deportation? English-only or Korean-language interpreters?
Are we back to the 19th century concept that each ethnic group feels itself superior to all others? Or, if the issue is not tribal solidarity, is it some vague sense of reconquest — the American Southwest belongs to those whose ancestors used to have claim to it — as if Germans could now without worry of law or statute migrate en masse into Western Poland on the basis that it is really still East Prussia, a Gdansk still Danzig? Do we remember the arguments from the Volk about “lost land” and “German speakers” that characterized the 1930s?
But that too raises a disturbing question: if, as some polls reveal, a majority of Mexican nationals both wishes to emigrate northward, and yet believes that the American Southwest in some vague way should return to Mexico, then what? Does one wish to leave one’s country and yet recreate its premises where one flees to? Or are we stuck in fantasyland, where logic simply does not exist, and the entire issue is clouded by feelings of victimhood, inferiority, anger, a desire for belonging with fear of rejection, and a need for tribal expression, as one from the Third World is thrust into a highly competitive postmodern America without the requisite tools to succeed (legality, language, education)?
Schizophrenia
And when one adds in the schizophrenia of simultaneously demanding amnesty while couching such demands in a critique of America (as is often the flavor of La Raza literature, or what we saw at the Rose Bowl or the Morgan Hill high school Chicano student anger at someone wearing an American flag T-shirt), should we laugh or cry? Is it: “I prefer the idea of Mexico and will cheer her on, but I will never leave the reality of America that I boo?” Or as the L.A. Times quotes one spectator:
“I love this country, it has given me everything that I have, and I’m proud to be part of it,” said Victor Sanchez, a 37-year-old Monrovia resident wearing a Mexico jersey. “But yet, I didn’t have a choice to come here, I was born in Mexico, and that is where my heart will always be.”
(Such contradictions remind me of the mayor of Los Angeles. Despite his efforts to promote open borders and a permanent political constituency, he nonetheless is the first mayor to insist that he needs a vast wall around his “Getty House” residence to protect himself from hoi polloi.)
Money, Money, Money
The issue of remittances has changed the paradigm as well in three ways: it makes transparent the cynical efforts of the Mexican government to export its own citizenry in hopes that they will live frugally, and/or with U.S. government help, in order to free up a portion of their wages to send back to families that the Mexican government has no interest in — given that many of the expatriates and their Mexican families back home are indigenous peoples far from the centers of concern and power in Mexico City. U.S. remittances are now the second largest source of Mexican foreign exchange (well over $20 billion), and money, not morality, governs most of what we hear from Mexico City.
Second, the level of cash sent to Mexico and Latin America — who knows the exact amount, but variously reported at well over $30 billion — redefines the entire question of immigrant wealth and poverty. We are not talking of $10 million or even $1 billion, but a fantastic amount of capital, which, in theory, computes to several thousand dollars per resident illegal alien. Are aliens, then, sending capital to Mexico with the full expectation that federal, state, and local agencies here will make up the difference with health, welfare, housing, and education subsidies?
Could not there at least be a 10% tax on funds remitted to Mexico as a sort of bond to ensure the sender is not dependent on American taxpayers?
Third, the dollars represent a huge drain in capital from the American Southwest and a transference of financial resources across the border. The one defense of massive remittances — they prevent social unrest in Mexico — is even questionable, especially with the violence today inside Mexico. (Could it be worse without the remittances?) Oaxaca sends more illegal aliens to the U.S. than other regions in Mexico, and is probably the largest recipient of U.S. cash sent back — and yet is one of the most unstable regions in Mexico. Were not the Mexican system propped up by several billion, would it not, in Greek fashion, have to embrace structural reform?
So Tribalism Trumps All?
Then we come to ecological exemption. The American left is proud of its advocacy of radical ecological reform, more government regulation, and insistence on family planning. Yet in matters of illegal immigration, these issues are not merely ignored, but considered racist or illiberal even to introduce. In vast swaths of California, issues like zoning laws, single-family residency edicts, or family planning are simply taboo, as if the impoverished have no choice but to live in garages, to park four or five Winnebagos behind a farmhouse, to plop down a kitchen on the roadside and call it a restaurant without adequate bathroom, washroom, or refuse facilities. So are we the least or most regulated state? The most or least liberal?
Because of the sheer numbers of arrivals, the lack of English and education, and the neglect from the majority population, there is a sort of exemption — in part politically correct, in part benign neglect — from the whole array of environmental and regulatory statutes, and this from the most fanatical of regulators and strident environmental zealots in the world.
Where does all this leave us? A mess of alligators and moats, poor children being arrested on their way to ice cream, wise Latinas, ethical lectures from the Mexican president on the White House lawn, and America as a foreign team in the Rose Bowl. The former liberals have now become the most illiberal sorts; a movement that targeted racism is now itself race-based, as La Raza has sought to resurrect the once discredited notion of Volk — a people to be defined not by ideas or values, but by how they look.
God help us all.







Excellent, perfect analysis.
You’ve covered all the points – from the racial and ethnic blackmail of Americans, the reliance of the Mexican government on those remittances to support their impoverished – whom the Mexican government neglects..to the stupidity of the American government in allowing this massive loss of capital to occur.
VDH
You can’t have a conversation about “illegal immigration” because the entire premise is based upon a lie.
What follows any rational inquiry into “illegal immigration”, is a pack of lies to defend the original lie and then ad hominem attacks upon those intending to expose the layering of lies upon lies.
First, “illegal immigration” is hardly a bit better than “undocumented workers” or the best of the bad lot… “illegal alien”.
Border crashers are not “immigrants”. Nor are they simply workers who are not properly “documented”. And, when they come in the hundreds of thousands and then in the millions, they are not even “aliens”. They are an invading army.
They clearly are willing to take up positions against the “host” country…insist on being housed, educated, given health care, roads, bridges, police, fire, sanitation and other services. They want the freedom to hang our flag upside down and to form political groups to call us names and hurl epithets.
But the invading army has no intention of following our silly laws, our antiquated rules or even keeping the money they earn within the country to help build those roads, bridges and law enforcement services.
The invading army burdens every single aspect of our tax base in order to provide for them. The parasitic quotient exceeds our ability to keep the host from collapsing. We are bankrupting our own states in order to allow the parasitic invading army to leech its lifeblood out of it.
You can’t have a discussion with an invading army. Or the traitors who wish to abet their invasion.
Let me place 13 million Americans in any other country, send their money back here, demand to be given preferential treatment and to denigrate the host country in an open display…and within two years tell me how many of them would be either beaten, dead or in jail.
It is our very soft nature that allows us to be taken advantage of like this. It is because we actually care about being accused of bigotry, that the conversation can never take place. Do you think other countries give a Tinker’s Dam if we invaded there, stole identities, sent our money back here…whether we called them “anti-American”? The notion is laughable.
We are invaded because it benefits leftist Democrats for us to be invaded. And, for no other reason. The army of invaders are simply Easter Egg Democrats. They are hidden as part of a game that everybody knows isn’t serious. There is no downside, there are no repercussions for invading America. We get gang warfare, drug running, gun running, murder, rape, and car-jackings.
Mexico gets free money, a free jobs program and an easing of the burden of providing schools, hospitals, doctors, police and fire services.
When the system is designed to steal and tell lies, you can’t have a conversation about how it is amoral, unethical and unfair. Of course it is, that’s the whole point.
Bravo, cfbleachers!
Thank you for what has to be one of your very best comments *ever,* and that goes double for Dr. Hansen’s masterful exposition above. This issue has the power to send my mind to gridlock so fast that I tear past “Go” and head straight to sputtering incoherence in about one nanosecond, so my hat is off to anyone capable of the energy and discipline required to hold his emotions in check long enough to frame such lucid and cogent pieces as his and yours. Conservatives at every level of the electorate simply must become more active and vocal in demanding that candidates for 2012 demonstrate an unwavering commitment to the strongest possible stand against this lawlessness, the Islamic terrorism it facilitates, and its devastating economic consequences.
Oops and an apology to Dr. Hanson for misspelling your name.
Perhaps a little payback is in order?
What would our “friends” to the South say about a little “guerilla” campaign along their Northern Frontier?
What with the repressive government, and the jackass cartels, it is a target rich environment.
We have “an invading army” of Mexicans for exactly the same reason that we have drug gangs: we’ve criminalized something that many Americans want.
We want people willing work for low pay doing menial jobs such as picking crops, mowing lawns, and cleaning motel rooms. If we had established a guest worker program that allowed foreigners to come here and work without being eligible for taxpayer-funded benefits, then the illegal immigrant problem would never have arisen. But, we were too stupid to do this. (Guest worker laws were proposed in Congress numerous times but were never enacted.)
I’m not in favor of amnesty, and I’m not in favor of trying to locate and deport 13 million people. (We already have too much of a police state.) I propose a one-time offer to every illegal immigrant: register for a guest worker program, remain gainfully employed for another seven years, and you can apply for citizenship. Legal immigrants would be rewarded by reducing the wait time for citizen to three years. (It’s currently five.) Once the one-time offer expires, we would deport the illegal immigrants who didn’t become guest workers.
You don’t need a “police state” to get rid of the illegals. Point your favorite search engine to “Operation Wetback”, the highly successful expulsion program that Eisenhower invoked. The dirty little secret: only a small percentage of the illegals were actually rounded up and deported. The rest saw the handwriting on the wall and “self-deported” — IOW, they skedaddled back home on their own. The same thing would happen today if “Operation Wetback 2.0″ was launched. FYI, illegals are already fleeing Arizona because of the laws recently enacted there.
We don’t need a guest worker program — there are plenty of Americans to do the job. We need to eliminate the over-regulation that prices native labor out of competition.
You obviously have no farming experience. I absolutely can guarantee that you will not find enough American citizens for drudgery farm work such as plucking bugs off lettuce plants and picking the dozens of different crops that cannot be picked by machines. These jobs require hours of labor in the hot sun with lots of bending (removing bugs or picking ground crops) or lots of leaning and stretching (picking fruits, nuts, or olives from trees). The jobs require some knowledge because the worker is penalized for picking unripe or overripe crops or for damaging delicate crops such as berries. Farm and orchard owners pay by the amount picked (minus unusable pickings), not by the hour. This combination of conditions results in jobs that almost no Americans will take.
I had a temporary job picking string beans when I was 16. The young owners of the farm picked alongside myself (a farm kid) and two village kids. We out-picked the village kids two to one. When too many beans ripened for the five of us to handle, the owners called the local employment office asking for day workers. They bused out eight workers the next day. Most of them stopped picking before they got one bushel of beans. The ones who kept going were incredibly slow. The next day, the owners contacted someone who could bring in migrant farm laborers (mostly Puerto Ricans in upstate NY). Those workers demanded (and got) more money per bushel, and they picked 2-3 times faster than the owners and me. Looking at the unemployed today, I doubt that one in fifty would do such work.
Of course Americans won’t work for that kind of money because they can make more on the dole – unemployment comp, welfare, etc. Cut the long term bennies and you’ll see more Americans take those jobs.
‘You obviously have no farming experience. I absolutely can guarantee that you will not find enough American citizens for drudgery farm work’ I’d say that that absolutely depends on what you’re willing to pay.
Senator McCain made a crack a while back that he couldn’t find anyone to pick cabbage for $50/hr. I emailed him asking where I needed to be to get that job. No answer. For $50/hr I’ll bring the whole famn dammily.
Hogwash! Like you, as a young teenager I was sent out to these fields all summer long – for free. It was a lark to us and an opportunity to meet people and hang out while working at something we knew we’d never be doing in “real life.” But guess what? The work got done and for free. Caesar Chavez didn’t like that!
It IS an invading army of violent, illiterate peasants who breed as soon as they are able. All their men are drunk pedophiles who love to baby-rape. They are out breeding us just like the islamists are out breeding Europeans. I don’t even care about being called a racist anymore. I just want them out of here. I can’t even stand to hear spanish being spoken any longer. Also, as a side note – their numbers are NOT 11 million like they keep saying. It’s more like 70 million and growing! And if your parents are not legal and birthed you here> You’re out too!
Booyah, man, BOOYAH.
And who among our presidential candidates have even whispered this issue?
Good point’s. we’re a nation of sucker’s.
The domestic parasites, welcome more parasites to the host. Eventually the host is overcome by the feeding parasites.
The principle weapon the parasitic left, illegal immigrant parasites, MSM and the monopolists of human compassion type pundits use in their defaming comments that are a charade for “debate”. How can their be debate when mature and purposeful dialogue does not occur!?
The R word is what is not handled in the effort to form policy. That’s the principle weapon in the frequent ad hominem discourse on this subject.
Whether legal or illegal we need to teach the kids about the USA. Everyday they need to hear in the news, schools, tv programs, radio, etc. that we are the greatest country on earth. We are the melting pot where everybody can pursue life, liberty and happiness.
Take off those opaque glasses.
Each and all of these illegals know right this minute; actually knew all of those months before they crossed the border…that America is the greatest. El Dorado…..indeed.
“Educate them?”….good grief!
They’re taking advantage of a nasty “open doors” situation created by our very own elected representatives who’re more concerned for their tenure in office than they are about the good of the American Southwest, or our nation as a whole.
All the politicians are thinking about is the net gain or loss of votes…..for themselves.
I so agree with all the comments I have read, but have chosen to reply to loveamerica for the favorable reference to the “melting pot.” I wrote about it and its modification in the 1930s here: http://clarespark.com/2011/06/16/the-antiquated-melting-pot/.
Just to make the pot boil a little hotter, consider that Jews fleeing from Hitler were not allowed into the U.S. (or Palestine, in sufficient numbers). We are not talking about 11 or 12 million but a tiny fraction of that number. It is a labor question, and also political, as everyone notices. The U.S. wants cheap labor, not professional rivals (the Jews in the interwar period) or potential communists (as was commonly assumed during that period).
Now we are in a big mess, and I tremble to see the results of the next election.
Mark Steyn, along with VDH, is in the group of pundits who have EARNED their fame by incessantly telling the truth, with wit and clarity.
The honorable Mr. Steyn nailed the whole human shebang when he reminded us that demographics is destiny.
As long as Mexicans and any other third-world “tribes” continue to happily make babies and use their time and energy to raise them up into adulthood, well—
The more ‘evolved’ classes who don’t even come close to keeping pace in this essential way don’t have any right to complain!
Look—laws are FINE, but they are not determining factors.
The jig is up, “volks”!
In whatever language used, “We don’t need no stinking badges” is in the DNA of probably the vast majority of go-getters who come to America.
It ain’t gonna get any better, I bet, whoever is in the Casa Blanco.
Perusham you write, “As long as Mexicans and any other third-world “tribes” continue to happily make babies and use their time and energy to raise them up into adulthood, well—…” I’d like to amend this statement with , “and use their time and energy AND OUR MONEY to raise them…”
It could be argued that we keep up just fine. We just kill our babies.
Let me guess the perps who made a dash with your saw recently were, um, how can I put it, Hispanic? You might want to check e-bay…
Liberal progressives exploit the disadvantaged for power, they are the masters of identity politics and will do all they can to protect and grow their electoral base. They will undermine the nation to the nth degree, fracture it socially, economically in order to grab power or maintain it. The often resulting lawlessness, debt, misery is of little to no consequence. If there is no chaos, they will create it. They look to basket-cases like Mexico and now Europe and see all the mayhem and are excited by it – how cool are all those riots and protests against capitalism, and austerity?! They’ll turn a blind eye to drug wars, mules, and massacres. Quietly they’re hoping for more of the same here – as they can be pretend to salve us all from our own demise.
Without chaos their arguments and philosophies fall flat, law and order prevail, society is less divisive, governments shrink, productivity increases, the economy grows, and the good Dr gets to keep his prized possessions. Now we can’t have that now can we Victor? It’s too great an ask, a sacrifice for the Totalitarians running the country today.
Who knew that District 9 was a true story?
cfbleachers you nailed it:
“Let me place 13 million Americans in any other country, send their money back here, demand to be given preferential treatment and to denigrate the host country in an open display…and within two years tell me how many of them would be either beaten, dead or in jail.”
Our federal gov’t allows this to happen because they think they have the “big picture”, i.e., the US will be the pressure relief valve for the dysfunctional Mexico. We will absorb these parasites if it means the whole of Mexico won’t erupt. California, willing handmaiden that it is, helps make this possible. Arizona is showing signs of rebellion and the feds will come down on them.
The parasites are killing the host. Obama is aiding the infestation with a smirk. Just imagine what he will do if re elected for another 4 years. Where is the T party on this issue ? No boundaries = no country.
The liberal Left has provided a pre-packaged cover story to race which minorities have eagerly succumbed to in the same way a surprised burglar would when told by the addled old lady in residence, “Oh, you must be here to check the gas readings. Here’s the keys to the house, I’ll be back in 2 hours.”
That cover story has to do with the fact that countries like Brazil and Guatemala are no more capable of competing with America in innovation and productivity as are it’s inhabitants when they come to America.
Convinced by the Left that the problem resides, not in themselves, though they obviously know this to be true in their hearts, but in white racism, they eagerly use the keys to the house to extract goodies from a society reduced to impotence in the face of cries of racism.
It used to be considered merely polite to not point out the failed nation status of Latin America and indeed the entirety of the Third World. Now it has changed from decorum into an actual and insistent belief that the Third World are full equals, morphed from that dangerous ideology called political correctness, a monstrous faith-based politeness put forth as reality. Everyone’s the same and equal no matter how much they prove the exact opposite; the fault IS in the stars.
Imagine if a basketball team was forced to Affirmative Action its way through a season, everyone on the team considered a Kobe Bryant. The very success of the best scorer comes to be seen as defining and even enabling the lesser results of the rest of the team. Blame and even a certain degree of immorality is attached to success and props put under the lowest scorers in the name of self-esteem and equality.
Reading the rhetoric of such groups as the NAACP and La Raza, it is evident they believe, not only in racial advocacy, but in an idea that blacks and Latinos are unlucky rocket scientists, held down and back and the lucky white Europeans who in fact built America on their backs through massive exploitation.
This is a theme echoed in the Democratic Party over and over again until it becomes a mantra and the only solution the dissolution of the demographic make up of America. In that manner the endemic racism of whites can be leavened with wise Latinas and the cool soul of blacks until those European Americans are incapable of exerting the moral bankruptcy of Columbus and other slavers who have come to define the story of America for those who feel exploited.
Maddeningly, those minorities make a connection of guilt by skin color against whites that stretches back centuries which white liberals eat up with a spoon but apply the exact same and depraved idea of connection by skin in regard to contemporary crime and you are brought to heels as a racist. What is good for the goose is emphatically not good for the gander.
Unable to compete, those on the world team bench have instead decided to behave like criminal con men with lives built on excuses and blame rather than the productivity that is beyond a man on donkey back in the suburbs of Cairo or a black student as entranced with rap music as they are disdainful of books.
A meritocracy stills exists and it always will because it is the foundation of reality itself but we as a nation no longer believe in such a thing or are shouted down from expressing such a belief. No surprise that we are at cross purposes and expending largesse and money on something which is broken but cannot be fixed since no matter what you do you will not take a bench player and change them into a Michael Jordan.
Mexicans love to complain about how their land was stolen and our liberals are eager to agree with them. Actually, the “lost territories” was lost fair and square in a war. This was acknowledged by Mexico by signing a treaty renouncing their claim to the said territories and accepting payment from the United States as was common in the nineteenth century. Saying that losing a war is tantamount to a theft is like losing your stake in a poker game and claiming that you were robbed.
Mexico could not defend the territories that it lost because because it had never settled the territories. The small hispanic populations in Texas, New Mexico and California were put there by Spain. The Spanish missions that were hispanicizing the indigenious population were defunded by Mexico. This is important because many of these native americans returned to a nomadic raiding lifestyle which scared away any prospective Mexican settlers. American settlers, in contrast, were willing to move into Commanche, Apache and other warlike tribal areas; American settlers did not need permission from the government to defend themselves and the U.S. Army was usually behind them. Mexican settlers when there were any needed a grant from their government to bear arms in self defense and the army was almost always deployed to protect the government, not settlers in remote territories. Only when the U.S. Army captured Geronimo in the 1890s did the American Southwest (AKA the lost territories) become safe for Mexicans to migrate to. Now the United States is safer for Mexicans than their own country.
No, the the American Southwest was not stolen. Mexicans were not dragged in chains across the Atlantic and made to work for free so there is no need for affirmative action for Mexicans and rich Spanish businessmen. The southwest was paid for just like Alaska and the Louisiana Purchase were so we owe Mexicans and Mexico nothing.
Reconquista? First there had to be a conquista!
1) In 1835 Mexicans north of the Rio Grande revolted when Santa Anna dissolved the 1824 constitution, and with it the Republic of the United States of Mexico.
2) In 1836 the farmers north of the Rio Grande formed the independent Republic of Texas.
3) In 1845 the Republic of Texas was admitted to the U.S. as the 28th State after begging to be admitted.
4) In 1864 the Second Mexican Empire was established by France and the Hapsburg Empire, and ruled by Maximilian of Austria.
5) In 1867, after its own Civil War, the U.S. followed its Monroe Doctrine and helped the Mexicans throw out the French.
6) Mexicans were once again free to return to their “civil” habits of chaos and violence south of the Rio Grande — right through to this day.
So re: “some vague sense of reconquest” — what part of their crazy-quilt past would they like to restore?
Why not Colonial France? It’s a lot more recent than the secession of Texas from the anarchic stew then called Mexico.
Time to call these macho swaggerers out when they talk “reconquista”.
BTW: the lingua franca of SE Texas before the 1900 hurricane wiped out Galveston was German! Should Germany reconquer it?
hey what do you mean by reconquista?
……….are the mexicans (indiginous) or the mexicans (spanish desendants)?
shouldn’t they give mexico back to the Aztecs and Mayans?
I’m pretty sure that science has tracked their DNA right to the very spot. Abiogenesis and all.
…just pointing out that they are hypocrites
There is a certain bizarro irony when people from another country come here in droves illegally and then spit on the country they are illegally parked in and then on top of it all, want to turn the country they just escaped to into the country they escaped from.
That’s just effed up.
You LEAVE friggin’ Mexico and want to make America friggin’ Mexico?
Yeah, you’re freakin’ RETARDED.
Mexican illegal invaders are only part of the problem the muslim invaders are the other. aside from those two groups the rest of the immigrants appreciate the USA the way it is …well was is probably the correct way of putting it.
It happens domestically as well. People are moving from heavily regulated and taxed blue states to more business friendly red states where job prospects are better. The only problem is most of them will vote for the same idiots that made their state a mess.
with respect to the point C de V made regarding Muslims, nobody is outraged in America when Muslims says out aloud that their only loyalty is to Islam and they intend to implement sharia.
Does one wish to leave one’s country and yet recreate its premises where one flees to?
Yes, going by the behaviour displayed. Had they truly wished to be part of the US they would have done everything to integrate keeping those emotional cultural rituals for the home.
With the converting of the poor in South America to Islam, as is happening in Venezuela, Bolivia, Brazil for example, many of the future illegals will be Muslim Hispanics!
Actually, retarded is a little strong, but dumb(er) is true. Average U.S. IQ is 98, while average Mexican is 87. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations
The U.S. gains very little human capital from the mass of illegal aliens.
Good article. The rest of the southwest and select areas of the country have a little of the same problems with illegals as California. But this won’t help the state when it comes time for it to make its inevitable request to Congress for a bailout. Given that everyone knows that bailout money would be used to maintain California’s entitlement spending at current levels makes it a political non-starter from the get-go. What is worse the political climate for bailout assistance will get even iffier next year. So, the California legislature should get on with the job and severely curtail entitlements to its illegal population while simultaneously reforming its entire entitlement system, if not the mindset that created it. It’s quite possible that this will cause millions of illegals to migrate back to Mexico. But anyone remotely plugged in to reality can think of far worse things happening to the state.
A CA legislature filled with “San-Fran, Blame Amerika First”, Dems?
Not in this lifetime!
You guys are including Bush, Rove, Mccain, Graham, the wall street journal, the American chamber of commerce, the Catholic church, the republican party et al into that liberal/left/democrat description right?
You’re not ignoring the significant contributions those individuals and groups have made in aiding, abetting and encouraging the steady flow of hostile illegals into our country, right?
Okay then…
You’ve got a point there tatosian. It’s pretty hard to think of any politician who puts love of country ahead of self and special interest. Illegal immigration is a no brainer to the average American but there are too many vested interests in keeping the status quo.
Excellent point. In South Florida, Catholic and other Christian denominations are behind much of the organized lobbying, as the Chambers of Commerce feign muteness, the community activists howl and point fingers, and the so-called conservative politicians hide, including the otherwise “so articulate” media star Marco Rubio. All are culpable.
I live across the street from one of the many “service providers” for migrants. Nice place — posh for a non-profit. A bilingual friend — former legal migrant worker herself — got a job in another one and quit after seeing them double-dipping Medicaid. I toured a third facility and was startled by its size — rooms of computers where counselors paid with federal block grants processed crowds of women with babies and little kids — each of them being registered for food, housing, pre-school, after-school, medical care. ID? No problem. That’s collapsed. The proliferation of agencies enables proliferation of fraud. The girl buying enough formula for 30 babies with her tattoo-covered, gold-chain wearing boyfriend is going to sell it at a flea market and go back and register for more. All the social service workers complain, but their jobs depend on it, and they know better than to turn anyone in.
Cars and money back home are what’s purchased with the money earned in the fields, and we pay all the rest: it may be the biggest farm subsidy, I don’t know. I do know all the food banks get rolled by people who travel from site to site collecting extra to sell, and several Catholic agencies just got cited for failing to do accounting, but they’ll doubtlessly get the money back in the next go-around.
The loud left’s the vanguard, of course. But the religious groups are the ones redistributing the resources and quietly steering the policies with the help of many, many Republican and conservative politicians.
Yes……..
Thanks again, Mr VDH. I’m a Hispanic, not a “Latino.” I don’t speak Latin. To see that Mexicans boo the US while living on her soil is MIND-BOGGLING! It’s true that if you boo the Mexican or Colombian or Brazilian team while you are in their stadium, you do have to run for your life. To allow this to happen here is truly unbelieveable. Do the US citizens REALLY love this country or do they really give a damn if she suceeds or falls? Can someone answer that question for me?
Dear José:
Hispanic is an even more generic term than Latino/Latina:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic
Do the US citizens REALLY love this country or do they really give a damn if she suceeds or falls? Can someone answer that question for me?
You speak of America is if you are not from here. Without being too nosy, would you mind telling us here where you’re from.
As for an answer to your query…
I really love this Country and I give a damn. I give a HUGE damn.
Real Americans see themselves as individuals who enjoy freedoms given to them by their creator, not some state, and have produced the economic envy of the world by living this ‘dream’.
The booing Mexican soccer fan knows nothing of this and so, places his faith in his state, flag, language, or ‘team’. To him, winning is a collective effort- to a real American, winning is the sum of individual efforts unimpeded by tyranny, fascism, statism, etc.- those things that saddle most of the world’s countries that plainly suck.
America is an idea, not a place. It can accept any who accept it and no others. What appears as complacency toward nationalists in her midst is really tolerance that has it’s limits. Pushed too far, our whites, blacks, browns, and yellows will unite in a fight to protect America from threats without and within. We’ll share a foxhole and fight like there’s no tomorrow because if we lose, there won’t be one- tyranny wins.
Jose, you might do a favor to your kin by explaining the danger they will face if our tolerance toward foreign nationals living illegally in our country runs out. America will fight back, and when it does it will not be pretty. People who love this country love their freedom (which is under attack as I type) and are genetically disposed to reject collectivism in all it’s forms. The election in 2012 will prove this by rejecting Obama in numbers too great to imagine.
The American ideal will not suffer defeat, not this time, nor the next. Freedom and liberty have built alliances among many culturally disparate people who are ‘united’ in the belief that America is the best hope for them, their families, and the world if only they could embrace it.
You’ll know when it’s time to stop booing the USA at sporting events. It’ll be about the same time we reject this administration’s booing of America in almost every other venue. Obama’s defeat will signal a new day in America where most of the crap that we’ve tolerated will no longer be tolerated. Your hispanic/nationalistic friends would do well to understand this. The liberals and hammock dwellers here would benefit from such an understanding as well. America will be making a U-turn and heading back toward that which made her strongest. Those in her way will be mere speed-bumps.
the 80% mexican crowd booed while the US national anthem is being played.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-0626-plaschke-gold-cup-20110626,0,7072114.column
So, the Goths have crossed the Danube en masse and the empire’s coffers are empty. Barbarians tend to get peevish when their tribute is denied them. Prepare to be ransacked. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.
“So, the Goths have crossed the Danube en masse and the empire’s coffers are empty. Barbarians tend to get peevish when their tribute is denied them.”
Well said. I was thinking the same scenario.
And our legions are off on foreign shores propping up failed states that will surely collapse upon our withdrawl.
I pay “tribute” in 147 & 230 grain increments!
Which do you prefer?
I’d prefer that we let it be known that we’re ready to use them.
I see everyday that we claim we’ve had “enough”.
Yet…I see more action on the wrong side than I do on the right side.
I see an ongoing invasion, assault on everyday Americans by 3rd world thieves and “religious” fanatics. The latter the kind that don’t mess around and knock over two 110 story buildings with commercial aircraft.
I see a country under attack from virtual human scum…and I don’t see the kind of reaction that one would expect from a free people being murdered and invaded.
I’d like to ask…if this isn’t enough of a cause to begin to be serious and fight back…then what it?
I see a country with states who are actually bleeding to death from this illegal invasion….yet can’t mobilize their defenses to repel the invaders. Nor even use peaceful means ( a pen ) to cut off the money train to these thieves.
I see the feds ignoring and undermining the 10th amendment with impunity. Yet I see very little fight back from the states…who are supposed to be sovereign? Because the fed and the gov’t tit is the only way they can survive?
I don’t think any state that wants or thinks of secession as an impossibility. I see these states as brave, bold and wanting to protect their citizens….that the feds will not do.
Are you serious? Cities and states all over the country have passed laws and initiatives to deny these invaders their spoil only to have lawyers, judges, the supreme court and even our own federal gov’t over turn the will of the people. Short of pulling our your gun and going on a shootin’ spree I’m not quite sure WHAT we can do about it.
Tish tish…this is a problem that is not that hard to solve. Step back and look over to Iraq and Afghanistan: See how our military and it’s bride–our Peace Corps, have done their magic during these past nine plus years. Hidden behind words, theories and pleas for more time, American blood and treasure have been thrown away faster than even Obama-Mao can talk!
Are there lessons learned or do we just watch as Hillary’s thighs grow wider and wider, while Obama-Mao’s nose gets longer and longer?
Let’s give the American voting citizens a choice and ask for the same of those fine Mexican nationals who can also vote.
The choice: Should Mexico become a part of the United States?
After this vote by both countries each will know what the voting majority’s wish. Should the answer be no, then decisions can clearly be made on how to protect both countries and the laws pertaining to each.
Have the voting ballots written in English and Spanish, with Jimmy Carter watching close by…
Just don’t let pathetic little Jimmy count the votes.
Precise, perfect, perzactly! The invaders from the south are often loveable, hardworking, responsible; both the legal and the not so legal.
But they will not assimilate in significant numbers. Those numbers are growing, and soon they will be the majority and whites the minority.
They will then control, and the former majority will, as per Odumbos’ dicta, “ride in the back of the bus.” Get used to sitting behind the yellow line, folks; its coming your way, and soon.
Their long tradition of deception, theft, corruption, promiscuity, etc. will continue, until this Republic is another Mexico. Their historical ignorance and tolerance of evil, obesity, criminal activity, substance abuse will make it impossible for decent persons to live comfortably in their midst. A genetic lack of basic intelligence is pervasive. And more drop out of school than not.
But all the opposites are true in certain asian populations. Can you guess the destination on my oneway ticket?
I still dont understand ‘whites’, to me, it is American versus not American…??
The particular issue under consideration is illegal immigration, 99% of which consists of people entering across the mexican border; almost all of whom are non-whites, and almost all of whom are hispanics.
I am a jew, my wife is chinese and our adopted son is mexican.
We live in a Texas border town where the population is more than 95% mexican. A distinct minority treats us well. The vast majority evade us. A significant minority are openly hostile. We are pressured, ineffectively, to accept the majorities’ tolerance of evi, criminal activity; deception; theft; sloth; irresponsibility in general. Nothing is properly organized. The cost effectiveness of a given project is of no concern. Almost all are scofflaws. Most ignore the traffic laws. Religion is at the “cafeteria christian” level.
The important things in life to most are eating and sex, in that order. The simplest bit of business cannot be conducted without extensive negotiation. Commitments are usually not fulfilled, but,”that is to be expected”. All that is done “for the family” is acceptable; criminal or not.
It is a world different from that in which most americans live. But it is a world in which all americans will soon live, as the hispanic population is growing rapidly and will, in the not too distant future, be the majority.
Unless those wrong, irresponsible and unrealistic attitudes and behaviors are changed drastically, the existence of a democratic republic is impossible.
And your grandchildren will live in it.
The thing that has always frustrated me is that this is such an easy problem to fix. Enforcement would cost almost little and you don’t have to deport anybody.
The problem is NOT that we have millions of illegals crossing the border every year. That is incidental to the problem. The real problem is that we (seemingly by design) make it so attractive to jump the fence. So folks – the key here is not to round people up and send them back. The key is not to even enforce the border. The key is to take away all the reasons that people come over. Enforce I-9 employment regulations – at the employer level. Knowingly hire an illegal – go to jail. ALL government benefits should require legal residency. There should be no illegals in government housing, no illegals in public schools, no illegals on food stamps. Again – enforcement shouldn’t be focused on the illegals themselves – it should be focused on the enablers.
We don’t need border enforcement. If US policy became “Sure – climb the fence if you want to – but you will be unemployable and you probably can’t live inside” the problem would fix itself. People would self deport.
GDT: Exactly! The solution is easy, but to get the Democrat-Socialist Party and the RINOs to implement it is near impossible.
Let’s give credit where credit is due to the wealthy Republican segments that permitted this to happen in order to pay sub minimum wage to cheap pools of labor. This is the only the Democrat’s fault. That being said, they are now the main beneficiary of this misguided policy. It’s basically a repeat of the Fan/Fred disaster.
VDH,
What most don’t remember now that history has been rewritten is that Saint Caesar Chavez opposed illegal Mexican immigration. My uncle in Delano used to rent to Chavez so we were close to the source as it were. Caesar’s view and public position was that illegal immigration hurt his cause, which was farm worker unionization by driving down wages and providing scabs.
Now days, the Illegal lobby has stolen the Caesar Chavez story for their own use.
Just for the record, when France plays Morocco they are likely to be booed by the many Moroccan immigrants in their country.
There is also a problem with Pakistani immigrants in England supporting Pakistan rather than England in cricket. See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_test
“Borders, language, culture” (as Michael Savage once said).
If Canada had jobs that paid 3 or more times what a comparable job paid in the states but required me to do the paperwork to get into Canada, I might consider sneaking into the Maple Leaf, especially if there was a political party in Ottawa that pandered to Americans, giving us special considerations and free stuff.
Then I’d go to a hockey game and cheer for the Penguins!
The Canadians wouldn’t have a problem with that (not a LOT, anyway). What galls Americans about the Hispanic invasion is that they (Hispanics) seem to have taken the leftists’ pandering to heart and really believe they have a right to enter the USA illegally. When a group not only violates federal law but also thinks that it is morally correct to do so, we have a huge problem.
As a veteran of the very halfheartedly fought Immigration Wars (22 years as an INS agent, now retired, thank you) I view all this with a combination of damped down fury and wonderment. Exactly what the hell did anyone think might come of 50 plus years of pandering and mendacity from both political parties?
Over three decades ago we racist jackbooted thugs used to discuss the long and short-term damage unrestricted and uncontrolled immigration was doing to the country. Teddy Kennedy & Co. kicked open the floodgates with the results you now see. Republicans and ALL administrations steadfastly looked the other way to accomodate the demands for that old time cheap labor. The public, to the extent they even noticed, just snickered and thought someone else would absorb the ultimate financial and social costs. In our simple minded thuggish way those of us trying to enforce the law thought that somehow, some day, the American public would rouse itself and demand enforcement. My God–talk about reaping what you sow.
When I started that fools’ errand way back in 1972 my mentor was a very crusty old Texas dinosaur named Travis B. Martin. He immediately took me aside and said, “Son, it ain’t for real”.
Words to live by.
PS: Just about everyone I knew was eligible to retire at age 50 under law enforcement provisions. Almost every one did for medical reasons. After years of futile effort, all our hearts were broken.
God help us all.
I met a young border patrol agent training in South Georgia a few years ago. Although he had not yet been assigned, he was shocked by the information he’d received.
In England, police, ambulance, and social worker bloggers are providing the first real-push back on suicidal social policies. Can’t you get your early-retired colleagues to start speaking out on-line about these things? You are no longer reporting to bosses. You are young and living on pensions the rest of us will never acquire. Tell the truth, loudly.
One caveat I’d add. The Dream Act for people who merely get into college — a foregone conclusion — is wrong. But I feel differently about the young men and women who join the military. Military service inculcates a culture of brotherhood and loyalty and patriotism. Those young people deserve automatic citizenship, and it seems beyond churlish to deny them.
The problem is easy access to welfare and lack of law enforcement. Build the fence along the entire Mexican border and staff the border area with enough agents. Then the illegals will just come across the much longer and less patrolled Canadian border. OK, we’ll get fewer Indios from Oaxaca, but we’ll get plenty of others from around the world. But CA will have to enforce its own laws, cut down on welfare forever and scatter and shuttle the prisoners to keep the gangs from organizing in the prisons. The US will assimilate even this bunch, just as it has before.
TRUE, THIS HAS BEEN A TOTAL SETUP TO GET US EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE TODAY. WHAT REALLY GOT IT MOVING SO QUICKLY WAS NAFTA. THEN THE HOUSING BUBBLE WAS CREATED.
THANK YOU DODD, FRANK. FANNIE, FREDDIE AND THE CHANGING OF LOAN REQUIREMENTS. TO CREATE A BUBBLE FOR MORE TAX AND SPEND. THEN WHAM HOUSE OF CARDS ALL FALL DOWN AS PREDICTED. RECESSION. NOW TO PAY AND WAIT FOR THE TOTAL TRANSFORMATION TO A NATION OF SOCIALIST, WHINNING FAT SLOBS, CRYING AT THE DROP OF A HAT OVER NOTHING. TIME TO GROW A SET. BE PREPARED FOR WHAT IS COMING AND KNOW HOW YOU WILL REACT WHEN THEY COME TO GET YOUR GUNS, REMOVE YOU FROM YOUR HOME, KEEP YOU FROM DRIVING, NOT ALLLOWING YOU TO SPEAK YOUR MIND, NO RELIGIOUS SPEAK THAT OFFENDS ANYONE. WELL I AM SCREWED. FINAL ANALYSIS, MY GOD IS GOING TO WIPE ALL OF THEM OUT. IN THE SHORT TIME THAT IS LEFT-PREPARE.
An alien who is present in a country (which is foreign to him/her) unlawfully or without the country’s authorization is known as an illegal alien of that country.[2] An illegal alien commonly refers to a foreign national who resides in another country unlawfully, either by entering that country at a place other than a designated port-of-entry or as result of the expiration of a non-immigrant visa. An enemy alien is an alien who is a national of an enemy country.
GOOOO HOME.
In AZ today, our good friends in the Latino hate groups, La Raza, et all, will be demonstrating and protesting against the All Star game and AZ 1070. One thing their signs will not say is that an ILLEGAL ALIAN was arrested yesterday in the Phoenix area for the cold blooded murder of two ASU college students a few days ago. There is not a week that goes by here in AZ that a major crime is committed and reported or not reported, (depending on the news source) by an illegal alien.
As a naturalized American, I find it offensive to use “Illegal” and “Immigration” as titles to an article. Is it “Illegal?” If it is, it most certainly cannot be “Immigration!” Why?, one asks! Because “Illegal” is an act circumventing laws and regulations established to govern actions by a country’s citizens and/or those seeking to become citizens. “Immigration” Is an orderly process established by a Country’s government whereby a foreigner seeks (through following a Nation’s established laws and procedures) to apply for and ultimately being granted citizenship, after having passed several LEGALLY established check points. An ILLEGAL” foreign citizen is just that, an individual circumventeing any country’s established laws and procedures in order to gain some form of benefit (either legal or nefarious). It would help correct the discourse by calling “ILLEGALS” just that. Foreign citizens having criminally circumvented America’s legal system, therefore being subject to the full force of all LEGAL penalties including deportation.
As another choose-words-carefully junkie, I have to agree.
Parsing the phrase this way is silly. They ARE immigrants: they settled here from another nation. But, they violated the law when doing so. Thus, the phrase “illegal immigrants.” It’s a more usable phrase than “foreigners who snuck into the USA and settled here in violation of immigration laws.”
Well the Politicans and the “Swells” have had a 70 year quest to change America. And you know, they’re winning. They have managed to push out God from the town square and the schools. They have destroyed traditional marriage, but just love to grant gay marriages to people who can not naturally have children. They have destroyed the work ethic and tuned the nation into “get mine” people. Whether its welfare, unemployment, disability, food stamps, social security, medicare, medicaid, farm subsidies and on and on.
Now they are working on transforming the voters. Gone will be the traditional, white, Protestent, hard working conservative. They are being replaced by another “get mine”, although browner population. And one way or another, they will get them voting.
An old joke describes a Mexican complaining to an American that Mexico is poor because the USA took the best part of their country from them.
The American asks which part of Mexico was that.
The Mexican replies “Why the part with all the good roads, utility systems, and industries, of course.”
It is said that in so many years that Hispanic power there will be so great that Californa will be able to secede from the Union and become part of Mexico.
And not many years after that we will have a huge problem with millions of Mexicans pouring across the border to Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona to escape to “the part with all of the good roads, utility systems, and industries.”
We are “upgrading” California into a Third World Country.
There is no legal way to immigrate into the USA, except for a few tens of thousands of individuals each year. It has been this way since the 1970′s.
Westerners especially (Europeans) have been unable to legally immigrate into the United States for the last 50+ years…
Always remember this fact when thinking about or discussing immigration…
Also, keep in mind that the former “INS” was one of the most dysfunctional, corrupt federal agencies, staffed by some of the most stupid low-IQ morons you’d ever want to meet… The current “ICE” is, if anything, even worse…
A million LEGALS enter the U.S. every year and maybe a half million illegals.
No – he’s right. White people are NOT welcome in this country. ICE routinely deports or revokes green card status of Europeans – even those who own businesses and are forced to leave without their assets.
Max @ 29:
You are misinformed. I’m not saying it is easy, but I work with a recent immigrant from the Republic of Eire. Young engineer. Company sponsored him. Used to have a Philippine engineer. Married a US citizen of Philippine descent. I worked with a Mexican (Tarascan tribe) who got his citizenship by joining first the US marines and then the US Army. He was killed a little over a Year ago in Iraq by an IED. Many of our clients here on the SF Peninsula are recent foreign arrivals. Mostly Asian, mostly working in Silicon Valley.
Maybe the doors should be open wider, but there are still legal ways to come to the US, get a green card, and, hopefully, after a proper education on American civics, become citizens.
Legal immigration is not the issue. Illegal immigration by the poor, the criminal and the uneducated, is.
How can anyone keep coming up with the “13 million” number amazes me. That figure was probably way low in the 1970s. The caucasian race simply cannot keep up with exploding birth rates (often to ten-yr-olds)and others which practice zero birth control, but look forward to a new baby EVERY 10 months, for the financial benefits of state and federal gov’ts. They’re not interested in large families especially, EXCEPT THAT IT’S THEIR CHIEF INCOME. Thirty years more, and caucasians will probably just die off out of sheer disgust. 13 million is a drop in the bucket.
SPEAK UP OR PAY MORE TAXES?
The Dream Act in itself, might be a reasonable law allowing the students of illegal parents, to be permitted to stay in the United States? But the ramifications are more ominous, that once the students have legitimacy they can then start petitioning for family members and that by any other name is CHAIN MIGRATION. It further challenges more people to simply scorn what lax laws we have and just enter illegally. Immediate family members overtime can then bring in even more people, and this has set up a chain reaction. Just like another possibility of yet a second mass amnesty, it always attributes to costs. It has been verified that the 1986 accounting, when the final tally was made that it cost US taxpayers 76 Billion dollars. By the time of a further amnesty in today’s dollars and cents had been calculated, the Heritage foundation assessed such final bottom line of in the range of 2.6 Trillion dollars.
Now this dollar figure is based on the assumption, that there are only 11 to 12 million foreign nationals in the country, a number based on processing, background checks and an accumulation on other personal data along with medical examinations. But (FAIR) Federation of American Immigration Reform, ( NUMBERSUSA) and thousands of grass root sovereignty organizations have assessed the population figures to well over 20 billion. This is an overwhelming number to consider and a dollar figure to incredulous to even imagine. That would strip any gains against the $14.5 Trillion dollars we owe outside the shores of America. This nation must be entirely thankful to the great State of Arizona, who started this long and dangerous crusade against the tyranny inside the Obama administration that would welcome into America every indigent family from across the globe.
America cannot keep giving anymore as they are not representing the needs of those of Citizens and legal residents? Taxpayers have been burdened to long in Georgia, Alabama, Arizona that has become the height of outrageous irresponsibility and indifference. Rallies or demonstration are looked upon with disdain and anger, with those politicians who pander to foreign nationals exhibiting poor judgment. Arizona outburst against unfair laws was just the beginning and now the real battle will begin in the coming months as we progress towards the 2012 election.
THOSE STATES THAT HAVE NEGLECTED THE PEOPLES WISHES, BY ADDING SENSIBLE ENFORCEMENT LAWS WILL BE QUICKLY OVERRUN BY ABSCONDERS FROM GEORGIA, ALABAMA. EVENTUALLY LAX ENFORCEMENT STATES WILL BE PAYING A HEAVY PRICE IN MORE WELFARE AND PUBLIC SERVICES, AS UNDER CONSIDERABLE PRESSURE FROM ECONOMIC ILLEGAL ALIENS?
Stepping forward now the TEA PARTY is the only true way that will elevate this massive debt, placed upon taxpayers by thoughtless politicians. We cannot trust the Imperials in the Republican Party and we certainly cannot trust the undercover far Left, that has impregnated the Democrats. Either party has had their own agenda for omnipotent power of new voters through illegal immigration, or the overall influence from big business to relax laws, so millions can be used for a lesser form of slavery; except in both ideals the programmed taxpayer picks up the unknown estimated cost to support them. In three decades America’s working man/ women has lost a percentage of his wages, to support illegal immigrants. How academia thinks the economy would grow, must live in a delusional world, when nearly every State is burdened by instant citizenship baby laws, which under the current misinterpretation payments of cash to these families, has diluted every treasury.
Our schools are crammed to capacity, full of the children of illegal aliens, the health system slowly falling apart as more hospitals fail of wanton families to be treated; many of these institutions unable to survive. Then we have the US penal system choked with illegal alien criminals, that is yet another tax hike on the American population. The TEA PARTY is our only remedy as the Congress, have no sense of urgency to the impending financial crash. Perhaps Rep. Michele Bachman of Minnesota, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Sarah Palin of Alaska; all regarded as strong supporters of the ever growing TEA PARTY. Only the TEA PARTY leaders seem to understand the financial predicament we have truly manufactured for ourselves, from the years of corruption within equal parties. The TEA PARTY has astounded both political parties in power, and will release us from the years of rot and poor or intentional mismanagement to gain favor with open border lobbyists. The TEA PARTY has sworn to the major majority of the American people, no new amnesties of any kind, which includes the dismantling of Sanctuary cities and towns, no dream Acts or anything assigned to foreigners who broke our stagnant laws.
To accomplish this task we must insist our government implement mandatory E-Verify and Secure Communities, which will track down both illegal workers and criminal illegal aliens. There must be no compromises, but that Congress should enforce these laws, without interference from the open border zealots or the elitist groups discount labor.
You should also introduce yourself to the people who run this devastated country at the Senate—202-224–3121/ House—202-225–3121 and tell them it’s time to depart of fight for the American taxpayer.
Did you notice that the “Progressives” were the ones who originally gave us restrictive immigration laws and now they are the ones fighting against implementing them?
SoCal is now more like Mexico than it is like the United States.
And the southern border of Texas (“The Valley”) is also like Mexico. Anglo street signs are torn down while those with Hispanic names remain.
We took the southwest by force of arms. A move that was at the time opposed by many in the US including Abraham Lincoln. Now we don’t like the mess. Believe me Mexicans are no more going to forget that than France is ever likely to forget the invasions of the Germans. Or we are likely to forget the attacks at Pearl Harbor or 911.
Anyone in their right mind would have to agree we did a better job of managing the place than Mexico has done with the part we left them.
We are, in the main, Christians that owe a debt to god to be truthful and merciful.
And too, since we have given up making our own babies we should not overlook the possibility that we will be needing some of these new children to be educated and out paying social security taxes.
Oh, what drivel! Were that true then mexico would have a stronger case against Spain than us. How about the French? Both were in that country repressing the indians there long before we bought some property! And we DID pay for the land! We didn’t HAVE to! Mexicans for 150 years respected that until just recently and I HATE our government for encouraging this destruction of our land and the wholesale MURDER of our innocent people! And for your information, God is a big believer in laws. All these illegal bastages are in defiance of Gods laws! OUR sin is killing our babies!
Enforce the laws against drug dealers, thieves, and gangsters? Would that now solve the problem?
One aspect that has to be considered is that America has a long history of accepting immigrants, and of recognizing that immigrants often have a sentimental attachment to their homelands.
This is not a new thing at all. During the Civil War, the Union Army included many regiments explicitly recruited from Irish immigrants: for instance, the 29th Illinois (“Mulligan’s Irish Legion”), and the 69th New York (“2nd Irish”), whose regimental flag was a green field bearing a harp. The 69th was part of the famed “Irish Brigade” of the Army of the Potomac.
Nobody thought they were disloyal, despite this display of “foreign” attachment.
We accept, with some reservations, that immigrants and their descendants will have political concerns toward their homelands. Armenian-Americans keep the issue of Turkish genocide denial alive; Cuban-Americans have been the core of U.S. opposition to Castro; Jewish-Americans support Israel (and are accused of “dual loyalty” or worse). Irish-Americans have supported the IRA.
We also accept that immigrants and their descendants will be attached to the culture of their ancestors. Indeed immigrant cooks have given us most of the food we eat.
Sports is another area of sentiment. Indeed, sporting loyalties are nothing but sentiment. In international sport, the U.S. is too large to inspire intense loyalty – we are such natural favorites. (When an Australian yacht won the America’s Cup, breaking the string of U.S. victories, it seemed to me that Americans were more pleased by the success of an underdog than otherwise.)
People who have potential attachments to other causes thus may neglect the U.S.
One should not make too much of that.
None of this excuses the toxic stew mixed up by “hispanic” race-hustlers. They exploit the natural sentiments of immgrants and the tolerance extended by a dominant group. These factors would be harmless by themselves, but are used to add “body” to the race-gaming.
Mr. Hanson,
Are you familiar with the fate of General Sutter? He was the renowned savior of the survivors of the Donner Party fiasco who, less than a decade after his prime was made distitute by squatting gold-mine claimants.
Reason I ask is, the concerted, rhetorical defense of illegal immigration, including the regimented peals to convict private landowners for simply defending their properties from trespass, is redolent of the tactics used by Sutter’s squatters’ defenders to defend their seizings of his property.
To restate and refine, the “reconquista” is nothing more than a slick end-run around Americans’ private property rights. The “la Raza-ists” net achievement is to generate an industry devoted to defending trespassers and squatters against conviction under America’s foundational English common-law framewords governing same.
Right now the anti-constitutional movement is wearing a burqa: it is posing as a racialist advocacy group only for tactical gain. If we tug its mask a little more, as your essay above certainly does, it’ll have to show it’s true colors. As the movement comes under more pressure, watch for blatant grabs at government rents, media attention (like Georgia’s rioting), and ranchers’ land in the SW.
Find some peace knowing that when those Christian harassing – work enslaving – crony – corrupt – aristocrat – blue state governments bankrupt and crumble those illegals will reward them by pillaging then burning them to the ground. The real question is, how many of us red states will be able to defend ourselves?
Europe is in the same self made noose with their Muslim immigrants.
If we see the Mexican illegals as refugees from a failed state then we can begin to solve the problem. I’m pretty damn sure that most of them wouldn’t even think about risking their lives to come here if they were happy with their country’s leadership.
We need to pressure the Mexican government bigtime and without let up. Hell, invade the place if that’s what it takes but this problem cannot continue unabated.
Expand our southern border all the way to the Panama canal if that’s what it takes.
I’m all for an invasion of Mexico and recruiting the drug cartels to help us overthrow the Mexican “government”!
It’s obvious that they’re in charge anyway. So if we can cozy up to the Taliban…why not make a deal withe the cartels? Hell…we’ve done worse and what’s to lose? We’ll still have an enemy on our southern border either way.
Bring home over 130,000 troops to seize control of the border. Bring the drones home to strike at the invaders.
Mexico sure looks like an enemy to America to me.
Su casa es mi casa, gringo!
The liberals have one thing in common with the illegal immigrants, who yours is theirs and whats theirs is theirs. Have any of the liberals check the box to give more in taxes? There response is that I have a life style to maintain. Or I work to improve these peoples lives, so I give time instead of my treasure. I believe that people would have a better feeling about the granting of citizenship if path was made for the betterment of the United States. What disturbs most Americans is that the people who put little or nothing in to the system get the most out of it. Additionally, these so called hard working people (and you have to understand that crime is a very difficult job) will never pay anywhere close to what they take out of the system.
Re: “Border crashers are not “immigrants”. Nor are they simply workers who are not properly “documented”. And, when they come in the hundreds of thousands and then in the millions, they are not even “aliens”. They are an invading army.”
Cfbeachers, very well-said – a rhetorical bull’s eye! World-renowned national security expert and strategic thinker William Lind, the co-creator of the “generations of war” model, has written that the United States faces no greater threat to her security than the de facto invasion from Mexico. The dominant form of warfare today is not conventional war along the model of WWII, but “fourth generation” war, or 4GW. One of the distinguishing characteristics of 4GW is that it is fought not only using traditional weapons of war, but tools that, at first glance, are not even distinguishable as weapons. One of these is immigration, which is a silent yet devastatingly effective method of ‘conquering” a nation or region (as Europe’s experience with Islam is now showing). We will soon reach the tipping point here in the USA, i.e., when “illegal immigrants” accumulate enough numbers to swing elections. Obama and the Democrats seek to hasten that day using the so-called “DREAM” Act, which is simply a polite turn of phrase for hijacking our nation politically, and overturning our borders, language and culture. The invaders, aka “migrants,” are aided and abetted by the Mexican government, which has assisted their efforts to get into the U.S. undetected. The billions in remittences siphoned off from the USA and into Mexico City sweeten the deal. Last but not least, narco-terrorist cartels smuggle people as well as drugs, even as they expand their reach into the USA, bringing violence and terror with them.
Would someone please remind me, why are our armed forces busy halfway around the world, defending other nations and peoples, when we face such a threat on our very own southern border?
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Take your complaints to the doors of the Congress, as regards to illegal aliens stealing jobs, by way of collusion of dishonest business owners. Don’t moan about the policies of Sanctuary Cities, Dream Acts or the 6 small amnesties since covertly passed since 1986, unless you are ready to speak up. Then again, if you are incensed about the 20 million foreigners settled in America unlawfully, you can do something now. These migrants and immigrants are depleting the US federal and state treasuries and taxpayers pockets and then make your voice known. Tell the Senators and House Republicans you want Rep. Lamar Smith’s mandatory “Legal Workforce Act as bill H.R. 2885 brought urgently to the House floor. It will reduce illegal immigration nationwide, including your states. Stop the clogged classroom full of children of aliens and sever free health care of these families and empty prisons and jails. The $113 Billion dollars a year, should be going back into your bank account.
Arizona the first state to recognize the invasion of our sovereign lands, has just made the statement that their prison population has fallen, as an the effect of zero-tolerance enforcement.
The Courts and President Obama’s Department of In-Justice, Governors, Mayors and federal and state officials have all the power against the average man or women. But if we unite, as one people we can derail all their plans, as the federal judges have deemed mandatory E-Verify constitutional.
ALL AMERICANS AND LEGAL RESIDENTS SHOULD ACQUIRE THEIR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE TO PASS THIS LAW, WHETHER YOU’RE BLACK, WHITE, HISPANIC, ASIAN OR ANY OTHER RACIAL GENDRE. JOIN THE TEA PARTY AND GET THE ‘LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT’ PASSED.
There is no credence in LEGAL IMMIGRANTS being arrested, as this sort of outright lie is generated from the Liberal and Democratic media. Those with a legal right to be here is completely free from any harassment. Any citizen or legal immigrant is welcome to the TEA PARTY membership, no matter the rhetoric and propaganda from the leftist morons.
ELECTED TEA PARTY FRESHMEN WHO DOESN’T VOTE FOR MANDATORY E-VERIFY IS BEING CAREFULLY WATCHED BY THOUSANDS OF TEA PARTY BRANCHES, THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY. THEY WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN IN FUTURE ELECTIONS? THEY HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Our freshman Congressman has done nothing so far this year to advance the cause of E-Verify and driving illegal aliens out of U.S. jobs to open them up for unemployed Americans. This fax tries to focus your Congressman on the most important thing he/she can do right now to fight illegal immigration — co-sponsor the Legal Workforce Act (H.R. 2885).
WE NEED YOUR U.S. REP SIGNED ONTO H.R. 2885 THIS WEEK
Millions of patriotic Americans getting this Alert have freshman Representatives who supposedly ran for office to do things differently. Many are members of the TEA PARTY and the TENS OF MILLIONS IN THE TEA PARTY REVOLUTION, must urge these individuals to sign on to H.R. 2885.
But until they sign onto the bill and moved out of Judiciary, there is little chance that the House Republican leaders will bring it to the floor for a vote. That means millions of Americans will stay unemployed instead of having a chance at the jobs that will be opened up when this bill throws millions of illegal aliens out of their construction, manufacturing, transportation, service and hospitality jobs.
You can also send a free fax, by going to NumbersUSA or call 202-224-3121 and ask for your U.S. House Representative’s office to urge action in this next session in Congress. The TEA PARTY will not tolerate Sanctuary cities, Dream Acts, another Amnesty or any Immigration Reform that circumvents the law. As far too long the politicians have placed the interests of illegal aliens before its citizens and permanent residents. In additionally we must harass the both parties to build the REAL 2006 SECURE FENCE, an act already passed with no exceptions.
Entering America unlawfully must be prosecuted as a Felony, as currently it’s not even a Criminal offense. Then we will see some radical changes to this impossible plague.
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WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW—HURTS? Illegal Immigration, Voter fraud and E-Verify.
Every American can do their part, to insure that ‘THE LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT’ (H.R.2885) and get to the floor of the House of Representatives. It’s the only way to get future satisfaction of saving the billions of dollars we give reluctantly, to illegal aliens. E-Verify–the bill would require 100% of businesses to begin using E-Verify for all new hires within 2 years and require all federal and state governments to check new hires and existing employees within 6 months. Although the official figures estimates there are only 11.5 million illegal aliens in the US, other reputable organizations exceeds this number by at least another 10 million. Of these 8.5 foreign nations have claimed a job unlawfully, while 22 to 24 million citizens and legally here residents are unemployed. These are non-agricultural numbers and this could be reduced by the immediate vote of ‘The legal Workforce Act.’
Unknown numbers of illegal families began departing Arizona, Alabama, South Carolina, with the introduction of harsh policing laws and headed for other states with more flexible immigration laws—California and Nevada included. Sanctuary States will be overwhelmed, with economic illegal aliens, looking for free money and other easy accessed welfare benefits. Thousands of American workers are already replacing the illegal absconders, as business have no option but to look elsewhere for labor. The days of cheap illegal labor is over and so are the big profits they have for years.
There is no time to wait, as E-Verify must become mandatory, instead as it is now—voluntary. Hundreds of thousands of businesses are now hooked up to the electronic program and can now vet their workers. Businesses that are not using E-Verify needs to learn an expensive lesson of harsh fines, company profit confiscation and prison for hiring unauthorized labor. Rick Perry unlike most of the others, is true GOP establishment and not a member of the TEA PARTY leadership.
Citizens and legal residents must challenge the Republicans dominated House and insist on E-Verify. The ‘Ways and Means Committee led by Majority Speak John Boehner (R-OH) must adopt the Mandatory E-Verify Bill (H.R. 2885.) and should be bombarded with insistent voters. Reps. Chip Cravaack (R-Minn.), Tim Johnson (R-Ill.), Reps. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.V.) and Joe Walsh (R-Ill.) , Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) have cosponsored House Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith’s Legal Workforce Act (H.R.2885), with new members to sponsor in the forthcoming wings. Not sure what to do? Go to NumbersUSA web site, where you can freely fax politicians or you can also can locate them through this phone number at 202-224-312; the Congressional Switchboard.
Monday, November 7, 2011 currently has 100 sponsors and 57 co-sponsors.
Our freedoms and liberty are under constant attack by the Liberals, Democrats and even hard core Republicans, so that’s why everybody is fed up with the usual trash from Washington; ‘The Quid Pro Quo’ should join the massive population of the growing TEA PARTY. We must anticipate that in the 2011 Presidential race, the impending gubernatorial and state legislative elections in Louisiana, Mississippi and West Virginia will be electing governors. . In addition, 578 state legislative seats are available, with the majority of these in Louisiana, Mississippi, New Jersey and Virginia where the fate of politicians are in the hands of voters. ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE BEEN VOTING AND WILL IN THE FUTURE. Democrats are looking the other way, as this has been happening nationwide. We must be watchful of Congressman as Keith Ellison, who could cripple our voting system. Ellison would weaken our nation’s policies even more so, than the voting regulations are already so poorly enforced.
In agriculture, the dairy industry for decades they have been substantial subsidies, but that has not filtered through to the illegal workers. Poor wages and even poorer conditions will not bring US citizens and lawful residents to the farmers or others need. The American people are finally aware that the farmers do not pay for the hospital care in case of injury, sickness and that all their children go to public schools and these benefits; fall in to the US taxpayers lap to pay. Eventually a uniform system of tracking agricultural worker, with employment visa over-stays deported.
Georgia’s Secretary of State’s office is obligated to administer elections and investigate allegations of voter fraud. Brian P. Kemp, who is Georgia Secretary of State, said that Georgia’s elections are among the most secure in the nation, and we take every measure possible to guarantee the integrity, security, and fairness of our elections process. Election voter fraud undermines the very foundations of our great state and country, and will not be tolerated under any circumstances. Then in the Liberal Progressive window or a leftist Democrat Congressman called Keith Ellison from Minnesota’s wants to impose on his state a slack election system and also on the rest of this sovereign nation. This moron has introduced two bills to impose the worst two aspects of Minnesota’s system on the entire country. This arrangement undermines election integrity and trust we used to share as citizens.
This Democrat “Same Day Registration Act” H.R. 3316 and its attendant H.R. 3317 would involve all states to allow unconfirmed voters to register and vote on Election Day. This would be outrageous enough and is mild compared to being infuriated by the second bill, namely “Voter Access Protection Act,” which would forbid states from requiring voters to show photo ID. Perhaps 25 years ago—but not anymore, when we have notorious groups like Acorn, caught using low-life’s collecting hundreds of thousands of registrations, which should have been flushed down the toilet. Democrats are out to win the presidential race, in any way they can—and have, as ACORN was prosecuted by numerous state attorneys for fraudulent voter registrations. Its federal funding dropped a supposedly dismantled, but however it has resurfaced in New York under a new name. To me and I’m sure to tens of millions of TEA PARTY members this is beyond incredulous, that any politician would try to destroy what little is left of our freedoms. Under no restraint H.R. 3316, in expelling all photo identification necessities, and H.R. 3317, that would allow people to walk into a polling station, register and vote straight away in all 50 states. GOD HELP US!
America can no longer support the poverty entering this country. If we don’t look after our own veterans, our own homeless, how we supposed to be the PPO health care for the world. This is an invitation to financial disaster, when large parts of the 16 percent living in poverty are illegal migrants and immigrants
Rep. Ellison states his proposals are needed to “curb voter suppression” and shield the rights of young, elderly and minority voters, except photo ID laws in 14 other states have been challenged in America and state Supreme Courts and plaintiffs have no evidence that a single voter would be disenfranchised by those laws. Perhaps Mr. Ellison should investigate the growing trend of illegal aliens or even permanent residence, either by being misled by registration canvassers or using ‘The Motor Voter’ bill to vote. This is extremely dangerous in very close races and has been prevalent in many states throughout the nation. Hopefully the citizens of Vermont see through this reckless law, and drive this unpatriotic fool from Montpelier.
The state of Georgia maintains a website for US citizens or any individual to inform the Secretary of State of violations in their voting law. In fact every American state should provide a website to report this serious wrongdoing, as it is undermining the basic foundation of citizen’s right to vote. This is not just a threat within a the polling stations, but where anybody could walk in and profess to be a citizen, Under bills introduced by Rep. Ellison brought to Congress or in his own state of Vermont would have irredeemable consequence to our electoral system. , One of the easiest documents to forge—is the absentee ballot. Outside of the influence of a Secretary of State’s Elections Division is easily compromised.
We already have almost indescribable problems with the illegal aliens side-stepping our borders, or slipping through air terminals. Every American state should power their politicians to supply a law, that every American has a government photo ID to vote. In addition today when our country is carrying a near 15 Trillion deficit, we need to start repatriating all illegal foreign nationals. When our elderly cannot find a seat in a clogged emergency room, as the hospital has become overpopulated with illegal parents and their children. That these impoverished people have no conception of the cost for a minor infection, an Aspirin or major treatment. That these are unfunded mandates, which include the education of their many children, is carried by the US taxpayers.
Overcrowded public school classroom, congested hospital emergency waiting rooms, is what’s seen above the surface—the massive financial costs are hidden below. Over a $113 Billion dollars is attributed to subsidizing foreign aliens, so surveyed by a Heritage foundation report.
No matter where these undocumented are from, they must go home. This is where Lamar Smiths E-VERIFY is so urgently important. The ‘LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT’ will shift the legal responsibility, over to the employer. They will be charged with insuring every worker fills in a I-9 form and identifies the recipient, who has been hired. That the business owner checks their ’Right to Work’ verification through the federal E-Verify process. Those who are ineligible can verify their lawful status, through appearing at the nearest Social Security office, to rectify any problem. Of course No Liberal associated newspaper pass this information, staying silent about any irregularities as they are determined to cripple any chance of this commonsense bill from becoming law.