The Great Madness of 2004-10
The First Symptoms of Hatred—2004 to 2008
For about seven years the nation lost its collective mind — and was only partially coming-to in November 2010.
During the years of insanity, Al Gore won both a Nobel Prize and an Academy Award for his propaganda film An Inconvenient Truth — before the disclosures of ClimateGate, new data on everything from the Himalayan glaciers to polar bear populations, realization that temperatures had not risen in the last 12 years, and the rather blatant and various money-making schemes of Gore, Inc. (that parlayed green advocacy into a billion-dollar, medieval exemption/carbon offset empire, several homes, and a propensity for carbon spewing private jet travel). Give Gore credit: he understood brilliantly that anger over Iraq and Katrina, his own popular vote victory in 2000 but subsequent lost presidency, his vein-bulging “he lied” screeds, and puppy dog pouts had combined, in perfect storm fashion, to locate Gorism at the nexus of anti-war, anti-Bush madness.
In these years of insanity, I used to be asked on-campus questions, but delivered as lectures, along the lines of “Bush’s polluting pals are ruining the planet when we know Al Gore’s cap and trade would save us. Now it’s too late!” Of course, in 2006 gasoline was relatively cheap, unemployment low, and there was growth in the economy. College students had the luxury of declaiming how George Bush had wiped out the polar bears as they waited for several good job offers.
Do you remember the hysteria over the supposed trampling of the Constitution? Those were the days of anger when Harold Koh, instead of writing briefs defending the Obama’s administration’s targeted killing by Predators and bypassing the War Powers Act in Libya, had been suing various Bush-Clinton-Bush administrations over the unfortunate at Guantanamo. At one time or another, a Sean Penn, a Hollywood producer (Rendition, Redacted, In the Valley of Elah, Lions for Lambs, etc.), a Whoopi Goldberg, a David Letterman, and legions more were all claiming that we had lost our freedoms to the satanic George Bush. These were the glory days of Dick Durbin comparing U.S. servicemen to mass killers, as John Kerry claimed they were quasi terrorists, in Harry Reid’s “lost” war, committing John Murtha’s war crimes — to the chorus of Michael Moore (guest of honor at the 2004 Democratic Convention) cheering on their killers as “minutemen.”
Until January 2009, almost nightly on the news, a liberal grandee would swear that Guantanamo, renditions, tribunals, preventative detention, Predators, wiretaps, intercepts, Iraq, etc. had ruined America in these days of “General Betray Us” ads and “suspension of disbelief” putdowns. Then in a matter of hours the verbiage suddenly stopped, abruptly so in January, 2009 — and has never returned to this day.
(I remember remarking to a former CSU colleague in those dark hours that the Congress had approved Iraq, with stirring speeches in support by Kerry, Reid, Clinton, and other liberal giants, that the public voiced a 75% approval when the 3-week war ended, and that Andrew Sullivan, as a tiny example, had mentioned Bush as Nobel laureate material and the need to use nukes against Saddam if he were behind the anthrax scare. Funny days, those, when Fareed Zakaria and Francis Fukuyama were writing serious, sober, and judicious briefs for preventative regime change in Iraq. The professor said to me, “That’s a lie. They all always opposed his amoral war and the Bush criminality.”)
In those days of “civility,” Bush hatred soon became a liberal creed. “Nuclar” (I don’t find such a tongue-twisted pronunciation as grievous as “corpse-man,” which reflects phonetic ignorance rather than clumsiness) was the stuff of NPR vignettes. Books came out about killing Bush; comics joked about his death. The Guardian ran an op-ed in which the writer longed for the return of John Wilkes Booth. Bush and Cheney as the Nazis or brownshirts or fascists was evoked by everyone from Al Gore and John Glenn to Garrison Keillor and George Soros.
The British were told to write Ohioans to stop the Bush coup in the 2004 election. Moving to Canada should Kerry lose (promises, promises) was a Hollywood boast. In these days before the BP spill, and assorted later disasters, Katrina was a mad Bush plot to disenfranchise people of color. Barney Frank was pontificating about the vendetta against Fannie and Freddie, as Maxine Waters et al. blasted scrutiny of the brilliant Franklin Raines, even as he prepared to walk away with tens of millions in “bonuses” after helping to wreck the American mortgage industry.
We forget now that the Bush administration (under which nearly 50% of the population was exempted from income tax and under which home ownership reached new highs) was pegged as some right-wing monstrosity that nonetheless caved and gave us No Child Left Behind, a prescription drug plan, and had allowed the liberal congressional cadre to turn mortgages into entitlements. Finally Bush was reduced to enlisting Bono to prove that he really did give billions in relief to Africa — even as the latter trashed him to the Left as the philanthropist schemed to avoid paying taxes to his soon-to-be-broke Irish homeland.
Quite mysteriously, radical Islamists trying to kill us became victims of Bush’s police state, and poor dying Oriana Fallaci was a lone voice in the desert warning us of our madness.
I’ll stop here and turn to the second phase that begin in 2008 after the page jump.
Stage Two of Worship, 2008-10
Then the mad hatred turned to the mad worship. Do we remember the great campaign of 2008? The madness now metamorphosized, as an obscure, heretofore unremarkable rookie senator became the Great Savior who would deliver us from Bush. Newsweek declared him a god; almost nightly we heard of leg tingles and speeches comparable to the Gettysburg Address. To doubt was racist, to really doubt was un-American. But now there was no shrieking, shrill Hillary Clinton to scream that such dissent was not really un-American.(She would soon charge that doubt about Libya was a sort of un-American support for Gaddafi.)
Denial was part of the madness. Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright were right-wing slurs. “No more disown Rev. Wright than…,” “typical white person,” “cling to their guns…” either never were uttered or were irrelevant. Soon the Pied Piper had everyone leaving Hamelin into the Weser. I rode a bike in the Palo Alto suburbs and watched as Obama signs on lawns were replaced each month by larger ones, until this “keeping up with the Joneses” reached billboard proportions — the more and larger they sprouted, the more the Stanford-affiliated community felt less guilty about never venturing into nearby downtown Redwood City or East Palo Alto.
The liberal press warned darkly of the dangerous months to come between November and January, the scary 80 days in which the discredited lame duck Bush might do terrible things (start another war somewhere like Libya? Make some dreadful Van Jones appointment?), until the savior came at last down from the mountain top. So we waited in terror until the danger passed and the salvation arrived in January. “Cool,” “competent,” “assured” were the media epithets; “reset” became the national motto.
In this second-stage madness, suddenly mediocrities like Timothy Geithner were deemed messiahs, tax-cheating or not. Tax-delinquents Hilda Solis and Tom Daschle were not quite tax delinquents. Geniuses like Peter Orszag, Larry Summers, Christina Romer, and Austin Goolsbee (as either formal or informal advisors), were going to apply Paul Krugman-like Keynesian borrowing (“stimulus”) to save us from the Bush “he did it” meltdown. Money was a construct and need not be paid back — whether at the Federal Reserve or at your own credit card, home mortgage, or tax problem level.
Relief was finally here. You see borrowing was not really printing money but a new sort of math in which the “people” would be saved from Wall Street chicanery by brilliant new stimulatory theories. Borrowing money “created” more money; spending “money” was stimulus that made even more money. Most of the debate centered around the pitifully small size of the new deficits: a three-year plan to print $5 trillion was deemed conservative or too timid by many of the Obama geniuses. Joe Biden, given his sterling credentials and vast knowledge (re: his call for Bush to rally the people — as FDR supposedly did as president “in 1929″ and “on television” no less) would oversee the trillion-dollar borrowing to ensure it was “shovel-ready.”
Amid all this, the Pied Piper began to bother a few on the hard left with a new tune: Guantanamo did not close “within the year.” Renditions and tribunals were embraced. Predators, under Harold Koh’s brilliant legal defenses, killed five times more than Bush had dared, including U.S. citizens. The Patriot Act was now A-OK. Troops should not have left Iraq by March 2008, but rather according to the Bush-Petraeus plan. Escalation was the new plan in Afghanistan. And, of course, bombing started up against Libya and on the sly in Yemen. But now there were no Harper’s mad op-eds, no anguished exegeses in the New Yorker, no Dark Ages have returned glum to be found in the New York Times.
Diagnosis, Treatment, Prognosis
What caused the American madness from 2004 to 2009? Fury arose over Iraq in part. In part, the profile of George Bush as Texan, Christian, strutting, twangy “dead or alive” stereotype was an easy target. The long years of liberal wilderness, out of power, had turned into a shrillness. The expanding economy had made life good and gave one the leisure to listen to the unhinged like Code Pink, Cindy Sheehan, or Michael Moore.
Obama was right out of upper-middle-class, liberal white guilt central casting: charismatic, young, half-African, an exotic name, hard-left credentials to the left of the hackish Hillary and Bill, full of platitudinous mush about “hope and change” and “millions of green jobs,” all directly imported from the faculty lounge, where gassing the car or changing light bulbs become complex endeavors.
And so we got an inexperienced, hard-left, messianic president whose job apparently was to enjoy life, politick, play golf, hang out at Martha’s Vineyard, pick up prizes and awards, and turn the economy and foreign policy over to the Ivy League professoriate.
As I said, the madness abated in November 2010, and once again money is real and has to be paid back, debts are not stimulus, and the world abroad is not hopey-changy mush, but back again as a scary place.
I’ll end with an anecdote about these years of madness. Out of the blue, an irate reader called me at my office this past Tuesday, feigning that he wished to talk about a strategic problem, but using the occasion to rant. After 20 seconds, I interrupted him and said the following:
Wait, wait, I have changed and now see how wrong I was in opposing your Obama. You see, he proved to us why Guantanamo was needed. That third war in Libya was necessary and I hope he goes into Yemen and the Sudan. Finally we got rid of the War Powers Act and the dreadful public campaign financing of presidential elections. Who else could have gotten gas up to $4 a gallon where it should be? Next he’ll get rid of those awful coal plants as we evolve to an 8-hour power day, saving us from global warming. Then look how well the economy recovered from Bush’s. We finally have a president who accepted the sophisticated European model so we can enjoy life as it should be lived, as in Athens or Rome. The new $5 trillion in borrowing will make those fat cats pay higher taxes and that will mean more jobs for everyone. Airbus is better than Boeing anyway so why build planes in union-hating South Carolina? We can all buy Chryslers and GM now to support the workers and shun those awful Volvos and Mercedeses. And without any more oil or gas leasing we will soon have to use solar and wind. Most people don’t need power anyway but waste it watching Oprah or grinding designer coffee beans.
I went on with:
Let us just hope Obama gets reelected. We could get food stamp usage from 50 up to 80 million where it belongs, expand home defaults and allow people just to “live” in “their” homes without foreclosures from the “greedy” banks. We all need time anyway to “be creative” and “leave your work.” Thirty million more could be given the chance to emigrate from Mexico without worry over a Gestapo-like border patrol. We could have ten Rose Bowl crowds booing an awful U.S. per week.
I thought he was still on the line, so I ended with, “And I didn’t even mention Obamacare with its 400,000 new jobs and lower health care costs for all of us! Who could be against Obama after that?”
But he had hung up and thought I was crazy.
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A few notes:
Our annual “show up” Sierra Nevada hike this year was delayed because of snow in the high mountains. We have decided to go at 7 AM PST, on Saturday, August 6th, to Twin Lakes (ca. 8,550 feet), a moderate two-hour-in / two-hour-out hike, far less arduous than last year’s Kaiser Peak killer climb. All welcomed for conversation about the state of the nation as we huff over to the lakes (quite beautiful, especially this year). Bruce Thornton will join as last year, and perhaps Raymond Ibrahim. We should arrive at the lower and upper Twin Lakes between 9 and 9:30 AM, stay for an hour, and be back at the parking lot at noon. More info to come. We depart from the Kaiser Pass road (make a right off 168 right before entering Huntington Lake); the trailhead is located near the Badger Flat campground (8,300 feet) 4.6 miles above Huntington Lake/168 road, parking in camping area lot across the street. There are facilities (water and bathroom there). The trailhead is about a 1 hr, 45 minute drive from Fresno, and the hike deemed “easy to moderate” (last year’s Kaiser Peak hike was judged “extreme”).
The End of Sparta comes out on September 27. It is a fictionalized account of the great Theban march of Epaminondas in 369 B.C. and his effort to destroy Sparta and free the helots-part history of ancient Greece, part novel, part philosophy of democracy, part story of the mind of farmers of all ages.







He was right. You are crazy. (At least to assume he’d listen.)
Left is a religion. Dogma trumps logic every time.
It gets worse. Not only are Democrats left-wing, but they have succeeded in pulling the GOP leftwards too.
Everyone must read ‘The Misandry Bubble’. Things are far more dire than you realize.
We are still quite insane, VDH.
I can no longer distinguish between the small c communists, the socialists, the anarchists and the other assorted hippie burnouts who make up the 2011 Democratic Party and their stoner base.
After four years of mass delusion (a liberal arts degree at the indoctrination farms often called a “college education”, without the slightest sense of irony), and with the wafting smoke of dorm room bong-a-thon ideas and the fun house mirrors of “me too” ferocious peer pressure still attached to them like so many ticks…the hippies aged chronologically…but not emotionally or intellectually.
The adrenaline rush of having a Republican “enemy”, the “being right” about war, pollution, “the establishment”, civil rights, equal rights, …gave them “marching energy”…..which was impossible to sustain.
But they tried. Oh, they tried. Global warming is just a hippie trying to regain an adrenaline rush on a pollution retread.
Iraq was Viet Nam. EVERY war is Viet Nam…when a Republican needs to wage it. Libya doesn’t count….because you can’t blame it on a Republican.
And unions are now the Workers’ Party…hardly a scant difference, certainly at any of their marches, lots of communist signs and placards and fliers.
All the “typical white person”, police are stupid, we are cowards, Katrina was a race thing…is a hippie’s way to gin up the civil rights “marching energy”. Yes, it’s sad and pathetic…and really cruel to the purported “victims”, because it hurts them most of all…but that’s what hippies do. They create division…race, class, gender, ….and they keep picking at the scabs they create to make them bleed.
We have elected a hippie President. His idiotic dorm room bong-a-thon notions of “redistribution” and MS-DOS (mega socialism-dump on successful) fiscal idiocy is all the rage with the Depends-Trotsky crowd of wrinkled potheads.
Anyone who “makes it” is the “enemy”. We are institutionally hostile to success and virulently opposed to achieving the American Dream. You can pay lip service to striving for the American Dream, you just can’t achieve it…unless…you are in leftist news gathering (distorting), entertainment, politics or academia. Then you get an exemption and absolution from any sins of any excess.
No, VDH…we have not recovered from our fall into insanity. The lowest depths of which we have not yet reached.
Until we stop our free fall driven by rampant, unchecked leftism, we must face the facts.
The bank account is overdrawn, the eviction notice is in the mail, our credit cards are maxed out, we’re unemployed and the answer our bong-a-thon dorm mates have suggested is to apply for a couple of those other credit cards to solve our problems, raise our debt ceiling…and by the way…don’t work for “the man” and let’s go protest marching.
Insane.
Indeed.
cfbleachers. you summed it up so well and you prety much identified the STUPID IDIOTS who worshipped the CLOWN CHEIF. the heck of it is there are still so many of the IDIOTS out there they will probaly get him reelected because there are so many people who are TOO STUPID to go to the poles and vote thinking other people will do it for them. well I will VOTE and if I could I would do it over and over. the republicans need to do as the democrats and raid the cemetary’s.
CF: I was going to write something similar but you did a great job. Mr. Hanson is wrong. The 2008 election, at best, was a dead cat bounce. Wake me up when Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi are thrown out of office. I’d even settle for a sensible democrat. But that’s not going to happen and the insanity will continue.
Greatest abdication in the history of mankind is how the MSM props up the Democrat’s regime.
“sensible democrat” is an oxymoron.
Very well said.
Of immdediate concern is the proposed sale of 125 M1A1 tanks to Egypt.
For the first time in my life,I have requested friends and family to write their represenatives. It just keeps getting unbelievably worse every week.
The only hope about the M1A1 tanks is that the Egyptians will no more be able to maintain them than the Iranians were able to maintain the F14 jets we sold the Shah. Better would be to stop the sale since the Egyptians can’t even feed their people this fall. There we agree.
iirc the f-14 were sold with no fire control avionics, or the sale of that part was stopped after the airframe delivery.
I thought these planes had never flown sice the sale, or limited hours, but am not positive.
still, I hope they try to disable governors and stretch the treads right through the turret.
Not true… the Iranians got fully operational F-14s, with AWG-9s and Phoenix missiles, and they are still flying them, effectively, to this day. That doesn’t have anything to do with the Egyptians operating M1′s, but the M1 is a lot easier to maintain and operate than an F-14.
Worse yet, we provide aid to Egypt that will probably be paying for the tanks. What political model would describe this?
they already have MANY of our m1a1′s, biggest question this time (in my mind) is whether they get to see the details of the armor process.
They do not get to see, feel or smell the real armor, even if they take theirs apart. They have their own tank plant, paid for by you and me. Why do you think Mubarak left Israel alone? We gave him the means to control his own populace.
The hippies did not invent the horrors that VDH so capably lays out in this essay. Statism has a much longer pedigree that stretches back to aristocratic responses to industrialism in England and Germany. I wrote about that switcheroo here: http://clarespark.com/2009/12/12/switching-the-enlightenment-corporatist-liberalism-and-the-revision-of-american-history/ and everywhere else on my website. One theme in VDH’s essay is the victory of the Greens. It is incumbent on the challengers to the Obama programs to come up with a sensible environmental plan, one grounded in sounder science.
“It is incumbent on the challengers to the Obama programs to come up with a sensible environmental plan, one grounded in sounder science.”
We need something scientifically valid, comprehensive, and sweeping in its scope – an Act that will not only draw the widespread support – praise, even – of business and environmentalists, but will pass with unquestionably bipartisan support.
Maybe we could call it the “George Bush Clean Air Act of 1990″.
(Face it. They hated him with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns even while he was proposing and passing their own dream programs – programs that they wished they had had the guts to propose. NCLB was a liberal’s dream act, and, had it been passed by Kennedy (whose staff drafted it, IIRC) instead of Bush, liberals would be falling over themselves protecting it and defending it still. Instead, they hated it from Day One.)
I usually enjoy your posts but I have to say … so … everyone who ever had long hair and smoked a joint is the enemy, CF? C’mon! Gee, why not lump all people ‘who you don’t like the look of’ into one category? Heck, I was there and may I just point out that not all “hippies” were Marxists, not all Marxists were “hippies” and your rant just shows and encourages a new kind of weird, hateful bias. Replace hippies with the n word and think it over. They all support Obama too. Maybe we should lynch a few of those goddam long hairs? This is unbecoming of serious thought on the subject. Barack Obama is no hippie. Apparently, he’s a Marxist revolutionary and totalitarian statist. They almost always round up the “hippies” first.
Not everyone who “once was”, but those who cling to false ideology of “dorm room politics” are a serious problem.
Using the term “hippie” as a shortcut to understanding the bong-a-thon mentality is not to suggest that anyone who was on the Kumbaya bandwagon is the “enemy”. It is to highlight, however, that we shouldn’t be formulating national policy based on half-baked notions rooted in Marxism and adolescent rebellion.
Yeah, man!
A great post that has enlightened this American loving Brit as to what the hell has happened to America in the last decade…..I will keep the faith.
Dear VDH – In the second section, Harold Koh became Harold Koch. And just for nit-picky fun, in paragraph 3, you have “as” for “at campus lectures.”
Sorry to bug you with this, but I thought you might like to know.
Really? REALLY?
YES, Really. The whole point to this is that how you live your life matters. And a great deal of your life is communicating with other humans. Without linguistic standards our communication becomes babble, incoherent. And our civilization dies.
So, yes REALLY…
Help Me! I can’t see the forest! There are too many damn trees!
Quiet, I’m counting leaves here.
VDH has typos and misspellings in every article, I’ve noticed. As long as they do not distort the message, and as long as he is not busy calling others ignorant while demonstrating his own ignorance, I am fine with it. One must be careful of becoming bureaucratic about such things. Better to send him an email, than to post such here.
Your motives for the criticism I agree with.
So does every other PJM columnist. I’m inclined to believe the culprit is not the columnists, but rather an automatic spellcheck which overrides the writer’s spelling as the column is filed.
I used to have a similar problem with Microsoft Office Word in my Windows installation, which (among other things) insisted on “correcting” the word “office” to “offis”. After a few more such amusing but obviously subliterate “suggestions” from it, I simply turned it off. Any spelling problems I have had since then have been my fault, and not the work of a computer program.
I prefer it that way, by Dr. Hanson & Co. may not have that option. Short of reprogramming PJM’s system with the proverbial very large ax, that is.
cheers
eon
“And our civilization dies” comes off here as an awkward fragmentary add-on. Yes, it has a subject and a verb, and, no, there truly is no proscription against beginning a sentence with the word “and.” However, your statement would have been clearer and stronger had you merely ended your previous sentence with the words ” . . . our communication becomes babble, incoherent, and our civilization dies.” Sometimes a caesura acts as more of an interruption than a dramatic pause.
“And our civilization dies” has the feel of an awkward fragmentary add-on. Yes, it has a subject and a verb, and, no, there truly is no proscription against beginning a sentence with the word “and”. However, your statement would have been clearer and stronger had you merely ended your previous sentence with the words ” . . . our communication becomes babble, incoherent, and our civilization dies.” Sometimes a caesura acts as more of an interruption than a dramatic pause.
;)
The common denominator in your excellent recital of the recent madness Dr Hanson, is the media. They are the Pied Pipers. They determine the content and the tone of the national conversation. And their intent is to poison it. They are truly domestic enemies – the same ones I swore to defend against when I took my commissioning oath many years ago. An oath that still stands even though I took off the uniform long ago. I do not know how our country survives when the institution charged with presenting the information that citizens need to make informed choices is so wholly corrupted and rabid in it’s determination to take sides and spew propoganda, rather than present the facts. The only comfort I take is that despite this relentless misinformation campaign – made more effective by an education beauracracy that qualifies as another domestic enemy – there are still about half of us that refuse to be brainwashed and still see with clarity the greatness that was, and is, this country. I hope and pray that this half will prevail in the fight to keep it alive. God Bless and Protect America.
Do what I do, and read the Wall Street Journal?
Though, to be honest, I finish it and feel like screaming. Yesterday’s edition had an article on the EPA’s new regulations on coal-fired plants, and no one seemed to notice.
We notice, but there is such a flurry of this kind of madness that we cant keep up with it all. EPA carbon regulations, the NLRB assassinating industries, The DOJ running guns to Mexico, NASA being charged with muslim outreach, “Raising capital gains taxes….lower revenue…its a fairness issue. “, …..
My God, I could fill up pages and pages of that stuff.
Is the left insane? Are we for letting them get into power?
Yes, absolutely raving, batshit crazy.
Better that we all live poorly, than some live richly, even while holding out the prospect that the poor can move up economically. It’s all about perceived fairness, not opportunity, not mobility, not freedom to thrive . . . or to fail. Obama’s remark that he’d rather soak the rich even if it meant less revenue was the thing that chilled me the most of all the crap he’s spewed. It’s all about power.
power…and ‘if it moves on its own, kill it’ –so, power, and death.
Hear, hear.
I love to watch Youtube clips of P.M. Thatcher, and here’s one of my favorites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHGCz6xxiw
” . . . he’d rather the poor were poorer provided the rich were less rich . . .”
Definitive facts about C02 and Climate Change:
1) The cause and effect relationship is still unproven. Do temperatures react to C02 output or is C02 the byproduct of temerature change. For every expert who says yes another says no. It’s still which came first,the chicken or the egg
A scientific fact can be proven without a model
2)The financial burden of trying to control output will place the country into a permenant recession/depression and a lower quality of life. The same people saying it’s imperative to control will not allow alternatives…Nuclear No Gas NO Oil NO
3) The govt subsidizes the economic loosers – Wind Solar and battery cars such as the Chevy Joke. Their isn’t a profitable wind or solar farm in the world without tax support
4) The cost of regulation will break consumers. Spain built their windfarms at a cost of $755,000 per worker and today utility costs are up 60% (Businessweek) How about the cost of gas in the EU who have enacted penalties ? Coutries such as Ireland have to pay a flatulence tax for livestock. This is the future if we don’t roll back these enviromental laws enacted by wack jobs (Remember “one square” Cheryl Crow) – flies a private 747 to College Station and wants everyone to limit toilet paper to one square for the good of the environment) Gore – hypocrite Bono – hypocrite Crow – hypocrite David – hypocrite Decaprio – hypocrite…the list is endless
A tax for animal farting, what next another for them belching?
AMEN LGoPs. we both took the same oath along with millions of other men and women. Sir I am still bound by and intend to abide by the oath I took some 59 years ago. I no longer buy the new york times haven’t for years. I no longer watch the left leaning alphabet channels and I shy away from any union made merchandise,
As for the media, I was in a public place on friday. CNN was on. It was a full court press against Murdoch. There is no doubt the media is 100% a partisan clique intent on controlling our elections.
It’s all quite insane and troubling that this great country has had so many Keysian/Marxist leaning citizens (and non-citizens) that can never try enough for Utopia… no matter how many times it is tried and fails, fails, fails. God bless American and PLEASE, God Save America!
Well put. Good imagery.
Years ago, I remember seeing on the campus where I worked at the time a bumper-sticker that read “Lobotomies for Republicans: It’s the Law!” and I thought to myself “so that’s where liberals come from.”
What does it feel like to be one of the few sane people in view?
Campuses are overflowing with bumper-stickers like that.
Just as Socrates was “wise enough to realize how little he really knew”, the typical liberal is dumb enough to think that he/she knows all the answers to everything.
Well…..they ARE the ones they’ve been waiting for…..:P
They want a level plying field hence the desire to lobotomize republicans.
Thinking about the level playing field the Maoists want, let’s apply it to beauty. It is totally unfair for some to be prettier than others. We can’t very well make the uglier ones pretty so let’s make the prettier ones ugly! How about intelligence? Oh, let’s just give them all A pluses so they will “feel” equal. (Oh, we are already doing that! Our students in the US “feel” great about their knowledge of math, but Asian students don’t “feel” good about their knowledge of math.) We could only wish the madness ended in 2010.
excellent re-cap of Re-set immaculations. But you forgot to mention that Jamie Gorelick, architect of the wall set up by her in the justice department to separate intelligence sharing among our security agencies, went to work for Frannie Mae/Freddie Frank, and left with millions of dollars in “bonuses” just like Franklin Raines did when the both of them looted the company of taxpayer revenue just before the well ran dry.
Insane perhaps, but completely understandable.
As has been said many times, the left laid the foundation for their strategy decades ago by taking over the media and the intelligentsia. They flexed their muscles in the 70′s, cratered Nixon and won an improbable victory in Viet Nam. Then they slipped Carter in, who looked to be a perfect fit. Mad as a hatter, but a veteran, Southern, religious, with expertly hidden views, and dedicated to the cause. Life was good for the marxists of the day. Loony Jimmy was a willing puppet. At that point, the leftist kooks even appeared relatively sane. Unfortunately, Jimmy was also dumb as a rock, or shall we say, left as a rock.
That’s when things started to go off-track. Reagan was a body blow, but he didn’t cause them to push the panic button. Soon enough, they made a fool of the country again with Bubba, who started out in a promisingly nutty fashion. Again, things looked good for the power-mad. But then Hillary-care happened, and soon enough Bubba’s little piccadillo’s couldn’t be papered over any longer. That was body blow #2, when they began to go over the edge. Fourteen years later, they froth at the thought.
Outwardly however, they remained cool. AlToad was in the wings. But against all odds, dubya happened. Florida, body blow #3. Hard core insanity began to ooze out. Al was so committed, so robotic and SO LOONEY. The loss was catastrophic. Florida was the bridge too far.
But it got worse. 9/11 happened and the bushhitler’s popularity soared. The country hadn’t bought the koolaid yet. Body blow #4. At that point, they couldn’t take it any longer and that’s when the locomotive really jumped the rails. If it wasn’t for the Slimes and the rest of the Uber media, there would have been violence and the country would be better off today.
Mr. Hanson describes it well, although insanity doesn’t really do it justice. It just proves that the pen is way WAY more powerful than the sword. If it wasn’t for the marxists’ decades old strategy, they would have had to go to the streets.
So now we have a nut who is easier to control that Jimmeh, has better control of his hormones than Bubba, and is less wooden than the Toad. He reads better too, when he knows the words.
But then, things STILL aren’t going well for the eager commissars to be. With everything in their favor, reality isn’t cooperating. And worse, only 49% (not counting the dead) have accepted the hopenchange alternative reality. If The great White and Black Liar can’t fake his way through this one, things are going to get much uglier; they have gathered strength since 2008. It’s hard to believe that anything can exceed the period of 2004 to 2008, but if the Manchurian is rejected in 2012, then the Valentine’s Day Massacre is going to look like Sunday school.
If you believe what Obama and the Liberals have done is bad how about what the spineless Republican leadership is about to do by giving in to Obama’s tax hike scam to raise the debt ceiling. At any given moment is is difficult to tell which is the party of corruption or which is the party of cowards. Pity. Third Party is definately in order.
And not a word of illegal immigrants? Well at least one had to leave the hard way in Texas the other day.
Yes, and when you’re happy to see a POS that happens to be Latino executed for the extremely cruel rape-murder of a LATINA (!) underage girl, you’re raaaaacist. Or something.
(WARNING: graphic case details. Don’t read unless you have a strong stomach.)
http://www.prodeathpenalty.com/pending/11/jul11.htm
Even al-Guardian, while bemoaning his execution, admits that the guilt of the scumbag isn’t in doubt.
Let’s see, that guy was brought to this country illegally, as a 2-year old. He would be eligible for the Dream Act! I hope his parents and family have been deported, for bringing this pestilence upon us.
Oh, c’mon! How can merely giving into the Leftist plans to raise the debt ceiling be rationally considered ‘worse’ than all the sins of the LWers who have forumulated and are pushing the debt ceiling increase in the first place?
When the Republican Leadership betrays those who put them in power (To do a specific job mind you) the base becomes Dishearted and Synical.
This leads to a spliting of the party and thus opens the door for Democrats to retain power via a plurality of the vote without gaining a majority. (See the election of the Minnasota Governer for how this worked.)
This then damages the Republican Brand and leaves rational people with nowhere to turn for aid, while the Democrats are allowed to engage their headlong dash for the Cliff of Financial Ruin.
In 2006 many people on the RIGHT were saying “Republicans Deserve To Loose.” They were not voting for MORE SPENDING and Expansion of Government, they were voting for Less, but the Republicans weren’t providing that so they went elsewhre!
That’s How!
‘formulated’ Btw, not that Republicans giving into the LW plans is ‘good’ by any means, but let’s keep a sense of perspective if possible.
I only wish I’d been there to hear you on the phone. I’d have just said something like “screw you, bud.” I now aspire to greater comebacks.
I’m so glad you’re on our side.
Us Brits need to move to florida again!
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Life in America has been too easy for too long. Most Americans think food and fuel is always plentiful and cheap, good jobs are always guaranteed with a college degree (regardless of major), and a home and comfortable retirement are birthrights. The connection between the good life, the capitalist economic engine’s ability to produce them and the political class’s power to screw things up has been lost. People are starting to discover America CAN become broken and it’s not all that hard to do; bad governmental fiscal and economic policies for an extended time, an attitude of entitlement and denial, and a few terrible incompetents like Barack Obama have damn near done it.
You are correct. Unfortunately, the majority of voters have been conditioned to reflexively turn to government to fix what’s broke, though the government itself did the breaking. The left-wingers won that battle two generations ago. Whenever some group is angry, scared, or dissatisfied, the federal government placates them with new laws, commissions, agencies, task forces, programs, or investigations (witch hunts). Those responses that cost millions or billions, rarely fix the problem. But, people have short memories, and our media rarely point out the failures of government actions when left-wingers are in charge.
The bottom line: In 2012 we could be in the midst of a double-dip recession, be spending two billion dollars a day on our wars, be filling our prisons with medical marijuana “criminals,” be increasing our national debt by two trillion dollars per year, and Obama still would be reelected because he would claim that only big government can save us (from the follies of slightly less big government).
“Life in America has been too easy for too long.”
It has been too easy for SOME for too long. When people are too removed from the struggle to survive, when they find themselves in the easy bubble of academia, for example, they begin to indulge in insane beliefs and stray from traditional time-proven wisdom. Such wisdom lacks meaning for them. There is no life-experience for them to which they can relate the wisdom offered. All is theory, there are competing theories, and their theory is superior to yours, because they are intellectually superior to you.
It is not insanity. It is childishness. They are sheltered, spoiled brats whelped with a silver spoon. They are petulant children. Unchecked, it mimics insanity, because real adults do not act like that.
surely not all are like that. I grew up dirt-poor. My younger brother shared my circumstances. The moment he got into a superior lifestyle, he grew a superiority complex, which is the flip-side of the inferiority complex coin. He went to a liberal college and became a Democrat. The money came easily thereafter. He likes being a Democrat. He likes being one of the cool kids. He likes to toot his own horn. He is an insufferable braggart. He seeks not respect, but outright admiration. Mere respect is not good enough. He has to be superior.
Now, however, business is way off. Now, the money comes not so easily. His marriages have been disasters. Truly kooky women. (But hey, what sane person could deal with his constant chest-beating braggadoccio?) As a result, he has been moving rightwards for a couple years now. He has become a Conservative Democrat, still unable to shed all his indoctrination. I guess more pain is required. The beatings will continue until clear thinking has ensued.
I love my brother. He’s my brother. He is certainly not an evil person, nor insane, but his childish mentality in some areas, his failure to grow up completely, mimics insanity. Perhaps most insanity is nothing more than a failure to embrace wisdom?
Evil is a type of insanity. Sociopathy. Real liberals, not the malevolents behind the lies, are often decent people. Every one of them I have met, however, are adolescent, lacking maturity and wisdom. Conservatives express outrage. Liberals express just plain rage… childish rage. They behave insanely… for adults… but it is normal childish behavior. We are only confused about this, because mixed among them, leading and inciting them, are the truly insane, the sociopaths.
These liberals, these children in adult bodies, deserve not our contempt, but our pity. We should not be treating them as adults. We should not be entertaining their nonsense, nor be treating them as equals whose voice deserves to be heard. They should just be dismissed as children, and spanked when they refuse to be dismissed.
I’m not sure what to do with the truly evil ones behind it all, the sociopaths. Perhaps that is the real problem. We have not defined this evil, nor its proscription, and so it thrives.
Marc,
Great insight. This has such a ring of truth to it – that I will need to ponder for a while. Lucky for me I like to ponder.
“It has been too easy for SOME for too long.”
Marc, I agree totally. But sorry, I don’t pity them because I can’t pity lazy people. I agree with almost everything you said, but….
I am firmly convinced, in talking to my fellow citizens, that most people really WANT to be told what to think. It simply takes too much effort to do it on their own. Children indeed.
Great post! Very insightful. Colleges & universities are the epicenter of this insanity. We may never right ourselves without purging the universities. Actually we should take a page from their hero Mao Tse Tung and turn out the professors into the fields for hard labor under the hot sun.
Ironic isn’t it?
That these same idiots that praise Mao are the first ones that Mao would turn on if he were in charge today escapes them.
What a bunch of morons.
Dissent.
“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Burke, or Tolstoy. Decide if there are more Irish or more Russians in your audience, I guess.)
Evil prevails if we sit aside and watch, without actively helping the fight against it.
It just follows that, when we know that a course leads to evil and we not only fail to fight it but we join it for our own personal gain and pleasure, we lose that shield of passivity and ignorance.
The inevitable course and result of socialism is clearly spelled out throughout history. No one who can read should be able to claim ignorance of that fact. (If someone replies “Sweden!”, they need to read more currently. The answer remains the same.)
Thus, even immature, self-indulgent little brothers reasonably cannot disclaim this knowledge, especially if they’ve attended college or beyond.
And so, no one in that position can claim any comfort from his immaturity when he joins in and perpetuates that system for his own gain. It’s probably stupid-evil as opposed to shrewd-evil, if that gives any comfort.
But it’s evil.
Good Doctor-
As an Historian (in the scholarship sense)you are surely aware of, but know the difficulties of conveying a perspective of “what caused the madness.”
Perhaps that is why you avoided references to what has been evolving.
In the last century within the U S (as well as elsewhere within “Western Civilization”) the domination of the uses of surpluses (capital) has moved from financial institutions (banks, etc.) to an industrial (production) managerial class (retained “earnings” etc.) where it has been employed to retain a quasi-status quo (“stable” prices etc), rather than deployed to expand (via technology, “creative destruction,” and innovation) not just the economy, but the core of civilization and the relationships of the individuals within it.
The effects of that “lock-up” of capital have been trickling out into the awareness of a public generally concerned (rightly) with consumption that seemed (again rightly) to be facing upcoming constraints (now partially with us) without a clue as to the factors (political and social) involved.
This writer falls somewhere in the “capitalist-libertarian” category, tempered by reality of the irrationality of popular reactions.
We are in a particular phase of “Western Civilization,” that may be the beginning of a long period of conflicts and ultimate decay (if not external conquest) UNLESS, as has happened before, new instrumentalities of expansion appear that lead to further expansion – this time probably globally.
Study of the “Classical Civilzation,” provides us with examples of what we are facing.
Well that cleared everything up.
i’m still laughing. Thanks for that!
Well if I try to unpack this comment, I get corporatism, rampant regulation, redistributive taxation policies and favored-class exemptions, quotas, seniority and tenure, coupled with public employee unions at every level and policies to disarm the citizenry of both weapons and truth, et al, which adds up to a real putrid “freedom” sandwich for taxpayers, what with 20% of them currently unemployed. Those jobs are never coming back, even if the economy doesn’t outright tank. We have no more credit to supply unemployment benefits. How will re-employment happen, soon enough?
The Republican leadership is talking compromise on the debt ceiling, when they ought to be demanding 95% downsizing of 5 major federal agencies, abolishing the IRS via 10% flat tax, and promoting jail time at Gitmo for AG Holder and cohorts. After all, we are in a state of WAR on multiple fronts, including the invasion from the south.
Both parties are arguing about what percentage they can redistribute to whom; not whether such redistribution in whatever form is legitimate. That’s the crux of our problem – the “entitled” classes from above and below are stealing our future, and we are paying/subsidizing them to do it.
Even the self-deprecating Bill O’Reilly (claiming ignorance of all matters financial – and he’s more convincing by each utterance) is calling for compromise on the debt deal.
Any compromise of the good, only benefits the bad. It’s not a religious debate; but a moral one nevertheless. And, the Left fully understands. They opportunistically exploit “compassion” and “civility” and “morality” which last until they don’t. Hard to see how this situation ends as well as 1865.
I believe that the poster is referring to the Quiglian view of the evolution of civilizations. Loosely rendered, Quigley postulated 7 phases of civilization:
1. Mixture
2. Gestation
3. Expansion
4. Age of Conflict
5. Universal Empire
6. Decay
7. Invasion
Quigley felt that the West has saved itself on at least two occasions by short-circuiting the process and returning to the Expansion mode. An auguable hypothesis, but one close to what the OP has suggested. The 0bama regime, or rather, those behind it, dream of an unending Utopian Universal Empire. What they’re going to get instead is something else entirely.
Yes, my views would fit with those of Quigley to some degree, including how the “core” of Western Civilization has moved to the U S for now, although my views on the “capture” of capital are not confined to the U S.
As I recall, he also cited the trend toward possible uses of governmental powers to offset the failures in deployment of capital – I’ll have to look that up.
When in the history of this country was capital “deployed to expand (via technology, “creative destruction,” and innovation) not just the economy, but the core of civilization and the relationships of the individuals within it”?
Given the very widespread ownership of shares of stock in American industrial firms, and the smoothly predictable and happily swift rise in stock prices during much of that time, it strikes me as odd to claim that earnings are being retained for stability’s sake. Earnings have notably been reinvested for the very technological leaps and progressions that are so transformative of societies just as you mention.
No doubt I sound a bit pedantic, but I am of the generation of VDH’s father and realize my viewpoints are skewed.
As to an age of capital deployment: In the U S, consider the era of canal and railroad building which expanded the distribution systems enormously, leading to greater consumption, the shift and increases in food production (e.g. the creation and rise of Chicago, the commercial decline of Boston (which shifted to finance); followed by the defeat of canals by rails, etc.
People often mistake “ownership” of businesses with control over deployment of the capital assets within the business. It is the management that “controls” the deployments of capital not the “owners.”
“Stability,” or increases of prices or profits has been the over-riding objective of managements. The trend has been aggregation, not innovation (I worked in M&A domestic and foreign). Most “innovation” has come at the smaller scale levels not from the aggregators. Consider the objectives of aggregation: “market share,” “Scale,” “additional lines,” etc.
Since you also ask about the human relations aspect, I should have added a reference to the resultant “opening” of the midwest, followed by the flood of north European immigrants (including my
family in 1832 from Switzerland); a resultant change in the population complex of East Coast commercial and port cities.
All of that was possible because of the availability of “capital” derived as surplus from production (profits) that were deployed in the dynamics of expansion and change from the previous status quo.
Very well said.
The left seems to fall into two categories:
1) The professionals, who will stoop to anything, and
2) The useful idiots, who have zero memory, live happily with massive cognitive dissonance, and have no critical thinking capability. The latter, by far the majority on the left, are cognitively damaged. The latter include a lot of privileged, “well educated” (i.e. credentialed) technocrats who, these days, have more and more power and higher and higher salaries in their jobs as diversity coordinators or investment bankers – all while they complain about income inequality.
Screw them all. Please keep them in California – too many escape here to Arizona, bringing their silly attitudes with them since they don’t have the good sense to realize those attitudes are what destroyed the former paradise now known as the left coast.
What is insane?
Like there’s a place you can begin and end with?
The insanity began when we EVER let ‘government’ take the reigns of each individual.
Social security? Not only a ponzi scheme but NO OPT OUT for people who can afford to take care of themselves. Spreading of ‘wealth’ right?
And, before some lefty LOON tries to tell me that social security is going to continue to ‘secure us’ in our ‘elder years’…
THEN TELL ME WHY YOU ARE FOR LETTING ILLEGAL ALIENS IN to bankrupt the ‘entitlement’ system who don’t even pay into it and suck off other government entitlement programs like welfare and food stamps?
If you Lefties were soooooo concerned about ‘everyone’ paying into the ‘system’ of social security, then, you’d be marching every illegal alien in this country right back to their shiteous homeland, you hypocrites.
/rant off
You ask what is insane, well with the current economic situation one of the complaints I’ve read about is the giving of money to help other countries, 1 billion here, two or three there.
What nobody has complained about is the approximately 50 billion that illegals and others are sending each year to Mexico, for one.
Now that’s insane.
Cynic: Yep, insane
Delia you hit it right on the head. so very true,
It’s not insane. We built a welfare state and it needs poor people. A job approving food stamps wont last long if we don’t import more poor.
Wow. The best short summary of the political and social confusion that has gripped the nation I’ve read to date. To me it seems like 9/11 ripped the lid off the cauldron of conflicting values that have been colliding for the past few decades. i.e. the clash of Right vs. Left, or Classical Liberalism vs. Socialism.
The “Socialists” (I use the term loosely because many of them are in bed with global capitalists, autocrats etc.) efforts to destroy capitalism and representative government at home go back decades, but it was a stealth campaign of infiltration and propaganda. And it is only relatively recently that all the many threads have been brought together to try and push the nation over the edge. It is Marcuse’s “Long March” coming to frution…
George Soros once said (paraphrasing) that he put all his efforts into defeating Bush back in ’04 because he was terrified that the US would succeed in Iraq. His real fear of course was that the spread of secular democracy would hamper the emergent global oligarchy that he and his cronies have been fashioning, using the “useful idiots” of the Marcuse generation as their operatives and/or pawns. Soros may be brilliant, but I think he miscalculated his timing. We shall see… Now the question has become:
1-Have enough awakened to what is happening to defeat Obama and retake the Senate in 2012. I believe the answer is an unequivocal “yes!” Though the get-out-the-vote effort will still be absolutely critical. The “cabal” will try every trick in the book, including fielding their own ‘conservative’ candidates etc. We must be alert to this.
2-Having reclaimed the balance of political power – what next? I believe we need to go straight at the globalist, crony-capitalist / leftist cabal; expose them, isolate them and destroy them (as in neutralize them politically). They will come out swinging, and so it will be extremely divisive. It could bring the Republic to the edge of civil chaos and even beyond, because there are many who have invested heavily in their revolutinary narrative. But we must be resolute and see it through because the alternative is to bind our children to the demented, engineered future of a clique of life-hating autocrats. History has called us.
so true
I’m reluctant to look beyond 2012, because it’s a battle that must be won, and distractions aren’t helpful.
But when we win this time, you are correct that the old style of being benevolent victors simply won’t do.
Reagan can be forgiven for not crushing the domestic marxists. It wasn’t clear in 80′s that they had redirected their focus from international to US revolution. If we had been in his shoes, defeating the foreign enemy and rolling back the Carter idiocies certainly would have seemed enough.
But this time, the magnitude of the problem is crystal clear. It isn’t just the philosophy, it’s that the philosophy has been imbedded deeply in our institutions, like a vine that will keep spreading unless every single root is killed.
Rush has been right all along. There can be no compromise with the oligarchists and their criminal and anarchist allies. They have to be driven back into the sewers and the manhole covers have to be sealed tight.
And then it will take a long time, perhaps decades, to simply reverse the damage that has been done and get rid of the moles in education and the media, and undo the statist foundation in the illegal cabinel bureaucracies.
Well said. We may have to re-write the rules somewhat, and otherwise arrange things. But we will do it in an open, honest and consensual way. And with deep reverence for the principles embodied in the Constitution.
Frankly, I want Obama to be re-elected just to teach the morons who elected this freak just how bad reality can get. Considering the Great Depression generation defeated Hitler and 60 years of prosperity produced Obama and twelve year olds masquerading as 25 years olds I’m standing strong for another depression.
Maybe this is relevant: Frederick the Great said that when he wants to teach a province a lesson he sends them a philosopher as governor.
By re-electing him and getting some of us outside the US killed is not going to teach those morons, who elected Pinocchio, much.
Sorry, even the remote possibility of this abject failure getting to replace Anthony Kennedy with another knee-jerk, reflexivly liberal, judicial mediocrity like “Kagamayor” gives me cold sweats at night. And now that it looks like Boehner is going to cave today and put off any real cuts, while pushing back the due date until after he basically guarantees Obama’s re-eelection I am not feeling to good right now.
They aren’t interested in what’s good for the country, they are interested in what’s good for themselves.
The lesson they need is the guillotine, not 4 more years of pain for their victims.
Bob, the Frederick the Great point is so very spot-on. That’s what we’ve become hag-ridden with: half-assed, self-designated Philosophers. The kind who can endlessly propose fine-sounding ideas to foist upon us, but never, never understand that none of their ideas are workable in the real world.
The rest of the world must be aghast or laughing at us. We can’t do great things as a nation anymore, we can’t even balance our collective checkbook. But damn! we can go around talking about how great we are, because we allowed in “undocumented” Guatemalan, one-legged Lesbians, and isn’t social justice swell!
I said this yesterday, I’ll say it again: Michael Savage was wrong. Liberalism isn’t a mental illness – it’s a murder/suicide pact, and unless they get their way, Liberals will commit Seppuku and take the rest of us with them.
Thats about the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard…
…unless you are a progressive…
A masterpiece!
Diagnosis, Treatment, Prognosis
This section was a big disappointment. The “diagnosis” ignored too many key symptoms. There was no “treatment” specified. The “prognosis” boiled down to empty political bashing.
The analysis shipwrecked on seven key symptoms:
(1) AGW has proved to be a sobering strategic and scientific reality (as the US Navy has concluded).
(2) Free-market Iraq reconstruction failed utterly.
(3) America’s carbon-energy economy enriches our enemies and bankrupts us.
(4) America’s highest-in-the-world healthcare costs bankrupts us too.
(5) Globalization has destroyed America’s manufacturing sector.
(6) America’s family farm sector has been destroyed too.
(7) America’s computerized financial markets retain no trace of Jeffersonian market virtues.
How can a “Diagnosis, Treatment, and Prognosis” that completely ignores these seven symptoms be anything but worthless empty posturing?
(1) AGW has failed utterly and [its lack of] scientific reality bankrupts us too.
(2) America’s Iraq reconstruction enriches our enemies.
(3) America’s carbon-energy economy has proved to be a sobering strategic and scientific reality (as the US Navy has concluded).
(4) America’s highest-in-the-world healthcare [system] has been destroyed too.
(5) Globalization has destroyed America’s computerized financial markets.
(6) America’s family farm sector has no trace of Jeffersonian market virtues.
E=MCcubed???
1) AGW has been shown to not only be illogical, but to be fraudulent. As to the Navy, their job is to militarily destroy our enemies when called upon to do so.
(2) Free-market Iraq reconstruction is doing well, as measured against a time frame equal to the founding of the United States.
(3) “America’s carbon-energy economy enriches our enemies and bankrupts us”, because the Left is preventing us from developing the energy resources we have at home.
(4) “America’s highest-in-the-world healthcare costs bankrupts us too.” Only if we continue down road to government-paid medicine.
(5) “Globalization has destroyed America’s manufacturing sector.” There are plenty of places here that manufacture. When manufacturing products can be done most efficiently in other countries, manufacturing should be done in other countries. Your thinking is badly flawed. You criticize American healthcare for being expensive, but you give high American manufacturing costs a pass. In short you feel like a liberal instead of thinking like a physicist.
(6) “America’s family farm sector has been destroyed too.” Why does farming HAVE TO be by families? America’s farming is the envy of the world. Should cars be made by families? Should computer software by families be saved no matter the cost or inefficiency? You feel like a Lefty.
(7) “America’s computerized financial markets retain no trace of Jeffersonian market virtues.” Is this supposed to be a compliment or a criticism?
If you really are a physicist, please apply some scientific methods to your investigations and thinking and see if any of your hypotheses are supported.
What a scary notion that someone smart enough to get a PHD in Physics and presumably working in a profession that values critical thinking could fall for these delusional liberal talking points. What chance does the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker have? I quess they only will see the truth when they lose their jobs.
See how profound the problem is.
People like this idiot actually believe this stuff.
“(1) AGW has proved to be a sobering strategic and scientific reality (as the US Navy has concluded).”
Utter tripe. Climate Science has become a-scientific, with cherry-picked data, pre-determined outcomes, recorded climate history continually represented as never anything but AGW, constantly moving goalposts, manipulation of peer-review, blocking counter-publications, referring to “non-believers” as “Nazis” -the list is endless.
Explain to me again how any of the above is part-and-parcel of the Scientific Method?
Hell, my advisor (who now is the Director of one of our major scientific institutions) was pushing this crap in the early-mid 90s. He constantly showed people the seasonaly variable plot of increasing CO2 – but could never quite show us any evidence of the supposed catastrophic effects thereof.
Is there some modest warming occurring? Yes. That is the sole thing we can say with certainty.
Much too much reality for PJM and the Wingnut Right, Physicist.
Reality?
All backed up by — nothing.
Typical liberal/progressive, all bluster and no facts.
If you are a physicist than I must be a bear.
I see parallels between the American Colonies after 1765 and the present United States. Perhaps the details of oppression and unjust taxation by the ruling classes of both eras are only tangentially similar, but the reactions by those who value liberty are predictably very similar.
Instead of broadsides, we have blogs and U Tube to voice our growing outrage. Then, as now, officially sanctioned information dispensation was through a press captured by the regime, a press unlikely to embarrass the ruling elite by publishing any truth embarrassing to the rulers.
In both eras, the initial attempts to achieve redress was through the existing political system. The Colonists, unrepresented in the Parliament, initially sought their justice through petition to the Crown, hoping that the King would see fit to voluntarily place checks and limits on his own power. Today, we seek to right the conditions that oppress us through the electoral process, a process now so corrupted by gerrymandering, fraud and bribery that we too will soon lose faith in our ability to affect the outcome using means short of armed resistance.
It has been one hundred and fifty years since the last great Rebellion, in which 600,000 Americans died to decide if the Constitution was the basis for a Nation or only for a loose confederation of otherwise independent states. After the Civil War, the notion of country, especially in the South, has been not the state in which the person was born, but the United States of America.
Those of us who were taught even the rudiments of American History hold the right of rebellion against tyranny to be our God given right, and our duty to our sacred heritage.
Franklin said.”It is a Republic, if you can keep it.”
The Tree of Liberty withers under these new people in government. Will we soon need to water it again, and is there enough love of liberty left in us to summon the will to set Patriot against Tyrant to defend it?
well said
There is a reason some lawyers specialize in “Bankruptcy Law” is there not?
Thelma and Louise decided to drive off the cliff in their Thunderbird, did they not?
We elected these people in Washington, DC, did we not?
Majority rules in our country, do they not?
“Mistakes were made” has been said before, has it not?
My advice: Fasten your seat belts, bring some food supplies and extra gasoline! Get out of Dodge if you can…
The underlying problem is the universal franchise. The great majority of people want a socialist economy; they want to be taken care of. The fact that half of American household pay no (as in no) federal income tax is an indictment of Bush, not an accomplishment. So a drift into a socialist state is inevitable.
It is entirely possible that Obama will be re-elected and will continue his radical structuring of America. Certainly, the “intelligentsia” and main stream media will go all out to achieve it. The election of 2008 was the most violent since the civil war. All of the violence, every single incident, was committed by the left. Expect wide-spread voter intimidation. If Obama is defeated, our cities will explode like never before.
But, even if he is defeated, and Republicans control both Houses of Congress and the Presidency, the Obama revolution cannot be undone, even Obamacare will go into full effect. The RINOs will not allow the overturn of Obamacare and other socialist legislation. The Republicans would need at least 70 seats in the Senate to undo Obama’s achievements.
Our most likely future is a Weimar Republic leading to a fascist (i.e., totalitarian socialist) regime.
Truly depressing. Still, I hope and pray.
Did someone say totalitarian? Check out the article in der spiegel saying democracy can’t save europe while calling for a centralization of authority.
I wonder if the rest of europe is content to say seig heil?
“Our most likely future is a Weimar Republic leading to a fascist (i.e., totalitarian socialist) regime.”
Simply because too many people want cradle-to-grave care by gov’t. Personal responsibility is simply too tall an order for too many. It’s too bad they all cannot be corralled somewhere to carry on in some sort of communal existence, far away from the rest of us.
Bob, you said, “The RINOs will not allow the overturn of Obamacare and other socialist legislation.” I agree, but you don’t suggest why they would do that.
What we don’t explicitely know, but can logically suspect, is that Obamacare carries within itself a multitude of “gold veins” (my term) that congressmen can mine for their own benefit. They would have been put there for the benefit of Democrats when they thought they were going to maintain their grip on power for the next 40 years. But now, if the Republicans gain power, and discover these veins of gold(if they haven’t already discovered them), they will be incapable of resisting the urge to mine them themselves.
…realization that temperatures had not risen in the last 12 years
True Believers are currently offering this mind-boggling rationale for the frustrating fact that we haven’t warmed in more than a decade.
Thank God for pollution !
(Hillary) would soon charge that doubt about Libya was a sort of un-American support for Gaddafi.
And reference Syria’s Assad as a “reformer” just weeks before he started shooting citizens in the streets.
And so we got an inexperienced, hard-left, messianic president whose job apparently was to enjoy life, politick, play golf, hang out at Martha’s Vineyard, pick up prizes and awards, and turn the economy and foreign policy over to the Ivy League professoriate.
Poor thing was, reportedly, off on another vacay to Montana this weekend and those dumb, recalcitrant Republicans who couldn’t even get their homework done forced him to cancel.
Tanstaafl, doesn’t it ever bother you that nowadays, party-line AGW denialism is embraced only by Big Carbon’s hired shills and radio pundits? Heck, even the US Navy, Mitt Romney, and John Huntsman now appreciate that AGW is real!
As for those pesky scientists, they’re on-record as foreseeing the role of aerosols — twenty years ago and more … this understanding *ain’t* new.
Aerosols, Climate, and the Hydrological Cycle
URL: http://ramanathan.ucsd.edu/files/pr108.pdf
The plain fact is, rear-guard skepticism is mighty late to the party! :) :) :)
More broadly, those peculiar brands of conservatism that can’t learn-and-adapt (in Gen. Petraeus’ phrase) to the sobering realities of our times are … well … at best, they’re foolish and irrelevant … at worst, they gravely harm conservatism and our nation.
IMHO, it’s going to be mighty interesting watching these realities sink in, among PJM/Tatler readers.
Uh oh, “physicist”…
Here some folks are actually referencing, gasp, hold on, here it comes…”…well known warming and cooling effects” apart from alleged anthropogenic ones.
Do you think the sun, radiation, Nina/Nino et al. and etc. might actually come to figure in more ?
Could such a miracle happen in the agenda and money driven AGW community?
LOL … you linked to a fine article, taanstaafl! :) :) :)
No-one’s saying — not even the AGW skeptics — that temperatures returned to global normals, are they? Because the world has stayed hot!
As cooling factors saturate (aerosols) or reverse (el nino and the solar cycle), those pesky climatologists are predicting that AGW will accelerate … and based on what’s happening in the Arctic, *right now*, these pesky scientists are gonna be proved right.
Weekly Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis
URL: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
It’s plain common sense that American conservatism had better have a “Plan B” ready … in case the scientists *are* proved right … because for the last three hundred years, betting against science has been a losing proposition … equally for the foolish left-wing (Lysenkoism) and for the foolish right-wing (pro-tobacco advocacy). Ain’t that right? :) :) :)
Oh dear, “physicist”, all those pesky brilliant scientists were into global cooling (imminent disaster !) in the 1970′s.
If so much money and politics weren’t influencing so called scientific research (of all varieties), your cabal of beloved Warmists might be taken more seriously.
The East Anglia/Michael Mann revelations of collusion amongst top “climate scientists” didn’t help your cause.
For the record, someday you and your fellow Alarmists will figure out that we humans are disrupting natural weather cycles through massive deforestation and destruction of natural/animal habitat.
Over and out.
Taanstaafl, yer reply is mighty feeble-on-the-facts … it’s a plain sobering reality, that burning coal is bad for our planet just like burning tobacco is bad for a kid’s lungs.
Corporate shills can spin as furiously as they want … but that doesn’t change the science.
Everyone has learned from the TEPCO/Fukushima melt-down (yet again) that corporate spin can’t be trusted when profits are at-stake. And that goes equally for tobacco, AGW, and reactor safety. Correct?
Eugenics? Lysenko?
Do you want to stick with “science is always right”? I’m not “anti-science,” now, don’t get me wrong… but if you believe that science never makes mistakes and is uninfluenced by human weakness, then perhaps we’ve read different histories and have a differnt grasp of human nature.
You state that AGW is a flat-out proven thing. Really? You don’t believe there is any more room for debate? Based on thirty years of satellite data? Really? You want to stand by the surface record as gospel? You’ve been to surfacestations.org, right? You are unshaken by “climategate” and the strength of climate being so strong and unassailable that documents should be destroyed rather than given over to indepent study? Really?
Wow.
And just WTF is “temperature normal”?
We, at this time, are still cooler than the Medieval Warm Period.
Was that the “Normal”?
BTW, the farmers in Canada, Alaska, and Greenland, would love a return to MWP temps – and I’m sure it would be appreciated on the Siberian Steppes also.
You’re a Fool!
I am an Organic Chemist. The industrial revolution will change CO2 levels from 260ppm in 1700 to 400ppm in 2100.
Mars has the earth equivalent of 10,000ppm CO2 and is very cold and no green house effect. Venus has the earth equivalent of 90,000,000ppm and is very hot with a strong green house effect.
Somewhere between 10K and 90M ppm we can expect a problem. But of courser I am not writing grants to go to Greenland or study the “damage” coral reefs suffer in the south pacific. Nor am I a Marxist trying to hobble global capitalism.
AGW versus Reaganomics … which has the stronger evidence?
Is the planet hotter than in the Reagan administration? Yes, surely.
Are median family incomes lower than in the Reagan administration? Yes, again.
To survive, must American conservatism grasp these realities? Yes, for sure.
@a physicist: “No-one’s saying — not even the AGW skeptics — that temperatures returned to global normals, are they? Because the world has stayed hot!”
Define “global normals”. What *is* the actual “normal” temperature of the world anyway?
As a physicist you know that such temperature definition is dependent on the period of time considered and the accuracy, precision and quantity of the temperature data used as well as the veracity and accuracy of proxy and statistical adjustments applied to the data.
If “global normals” is that temperature arrived at when considered over the past 2000 years, then we can say we’ve warmed about 0.1C over the “global normals” 2000 years ago, but have we exceeded the highs during that period?
Using the last 8000 years the period of the growth of homo sapiens as a significant species, we can say that we’ve cooled about 1.0C over the average of 8000 years ago – and we’ve exceeded neither the highs nor lows over that span of time.
Using the last 12000 years (neolithic), we can say we’ve warmed over 2.0C. Incidentally, 12000 years ago was the tail end of the last glacial period and the beginning of the rise of homo sapiens.
So, pick a period and justify why you think that period defines the temperature we should all use as the one and only “global normals” when deciding the future economic history of the world.
And since the future, not the past, is really the purpose of the entire exercise, please explain why and how the weather/climate models used to predict temperature change over the entire globe over the next say 30 to 100 years (with a precision of 0.1C or greater) that form the basis of calls for sociopolitical and economic changes to address global warming are more accurate than the models used to predict say the temperature change in your town over the next ten days – which are not accurate to 0.1C.
How curious. According to the spreadsheet available here:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/statemedian/index.html
median U.S. household income in 1988 (last full year of the Reagan presidency) was $27225 (in constant 2009 dollars), yet the median income in 2009 was $49777. You assert that “Are median family incomes lower than in the Reagan administration? Yes, again.” Please explain how you reconcile these statistics (for example, is the census data flawed, or am I reading the spreadsheet incorrectly, or is the difference because of use of family income versus household income, or have median incomes dropped by 45% since 2009, or is it some combination of these and other factors?).
Physicist, when you can’t argue on the facts, then attack those you disagree with. Carbon industry shills, my ass! Has it ever occurred to you that there are strong financial and professional incentives for the AGW alarmists to raise the alarm? Are you aware of the suppression of researchers who are skeptical of AGW (I know some). Are you aware that the entire AGW alarmist premise is based on hypothesized multiplier effects (positive feedback) which even the IPCC admits they are clueless about (take a look at cloud droplet size on albedo, for example).
Minor AGW is probably real. Alarming AGW is probably not. Nobody in a *real* science would make the AGW alarmist claims given the uncertainties in everything from paleoclimatological data to modeling resolution and physics issues.
What AGW shills like you tend to do is lump everyone into the total denial camp – you know, the folks who don’t believe even simple radiative balance equations. But it’s folks like you who have driven them there – why should they trust *anything* scientists say on AGW when the scientists have been caught lying, covering up, suppressing dissent, and taking money for their opinions?
The unreconcialable problem is there is a sense in the population of America that these problems are simply mirage or Conservative ploys, since we are surrounded by wealth and prosperity almost everywhere. I don’t think that an actual change can be made until things actually begin to crumble, until actual fault lines break up the ground and lava starts spewing out.
It is no use to even try to make sense of the duality of the Democrats convictions, because it is purely politics. And even now I am in a logical half-nelson where I have to concede that I am also assuming that the problem I perceive in America are true, not entirely based on what I see and experience, but because I put stock in a certain type of person and trust their words – VDH being of one of the upper levels in that (Krauthammer, Coulter, the good folks at Newsbusters are others). I don’t believe Democrats, any of them – no, not even (and especially) the talking heads, really think there is or was a truly dire financial problem. Deep down, or even on the surface they know, or think they know, the truth. That is, that the stimulus and Obamacare were and are simply glue to maintain Liberal cohesion in a quest for a heathen (though, they won’t say heathen) Utopia. And this is why they talk out of both sides of their neck. They have to, or they expose the hand they’re playing.
(People who have apparent hardships that make a lot of noise through the emotional weight of their charges have had it bad past, present, and future, in most cases. Meaning, they can’t actually pinpoint blame on anyone or any thing for their trouble (perhaps, they are to blame for all they know), and simply cowtow to a political philosophy that sooths their burns. Sympathy for Americans in trouble is certainly a political weapon that those in power have the illusory rights to.)
The only solution, I believe, is a ground assault of living and leading by example. Hold your ground, do what is right to the best of your abilities. Teach your children to be different from the rest, to be strong in their integrity. Show that you still have a fear of God, and as the Bible says, it will be alright in the end for that person. I have come to a conclusion in my looking and it is this: this country, and even the whole world, are more and more a people who do not fear God. And this includes the Conservatives.
In trying to understand the universe around us, intuition does not serve well. The very large parts of the universe and its workings are beyond our personal experience, or our ability to experience. The very small parts and machinations of the universe are also beyond our organic, first hand experience, or ability to experience. Therefore radically different, seemingly counter-intuitive, kinds of thinking are required. Very complex math is required. Etc, etc.
On the other hand, social, political, and legal problems require the opposite; intuitive thinking. Thats what we as humans do, what we are wired to do, and what we do best. Looking at these problems in a straight-forward, common sense, intuitive way leads us to effective solutions.
The problem with the left is that they do not apply intuitive thinking to social, political and legal problems. They instead opt for the kind of approach that is counter-intuitive. I suspect they do this because it obfuscates the problem solving process and allows them to achieve whatever end they have decided on before hand. They apply a-priori thinking to achieve solutions that should be reached a-posteriori. Invariably this leads one to a very different place than one should be.
Ooops. Its me, Suthenboy. I forgot to post my name.
The tone is cynical, but the content is perfect. An outstanding summation. You have an important voice.
Doug Santo
Pasadena, CA
I love it when VDH has a bad hair day or whatever it is that puts him into the Total Fulminate Mode!
His analysis/synopsis is quite complete. I would only request perhaps one small change. I believe it somewhat denigrates the life of the young man from Nazareth in referencing the TOTUS as any sort of “messiah.”
The expression is “batten down the hatches.” What’s a coming ain’t gonna be pleasant.
Bush did not defend himself. That and nation building in the middle east got us here.
Nonsense.
The attack on America by the marxists/oligarchists has been going on for at least 6 decades, and decades longer before they turned their attention here.
Yeh, Bush should have defended his policies, but if he had, it would only have delayed the final conflict for a few years.
And Iraq has NOTHING to do with it. It was merely an excuse used by the Marxists to con the public. If it wasn’t that, it would have been something else. It’s equivalent to blaming WWI on the assassination of the Archduke.
Nationbuilding ? Are you serious ? How about 5 years of Democratic majorities in the House and Senate with a 5 Trillion price tag. 3 years of unemployment benefits, over regulation by the EPA, Obamascare, subsidizing windfarms solar production high speed rail and battery driven cars that can never turn a profit. Excuse me, Japan has ONE profitable rail. Demonize Exxon who pays the max in taxes and has the head of GE on his jobs team when they didn’t pay a dime of taxes last year. No new rigs in the Gulf of Mexico Alaska or off of Pacific coast. Appoints the head of the appeals panel at the EPA who is enviromental attorney. How about tthe 80,000 jobs lost in California to protect a minnow? Thank you EPA. Bills passed and appointments made in the dead of night to avoid the transparency he promised.
If the President wants to know “who’s ass to kick ” the answer is staring back at him in the mirror.
Don’t forget to thank your President for the gold gas and grocery prices!!!
It has taken longer than seven years to get to this place. This country has spent so many years keeping up with the Jones’ they forgot to pay attention to what their own government was doing to them. Every time you don’t vote in any election be it city, state or federal, you give more power to incumbents to run your lives. If you don’t vote to toss the Senate and House reps that have brought this mess down on your children and grandchildren you have no right to complain. Can it be corrected? Only real Patriots can correct it. Look at the EU and the ME. EU failing due to extreme socialist programs and ME failing because they want extreme socialist programs. USA is next. Ivy League Professors have answers to all. Not. Therories all over the place with no substance. MSM reports Pop culture news and small children have newest social media access. We are a result of the feel good culture that arrived many years ago. Some of the same culture is running your government. One is Governor of Cali again. I love my country and it’s people, I did not live my life and raise my children to see my country fall to a bunch of people that live in the world of Magical thinking. We have moved in a short time from an industrial revolution to a social revolution. Wake up America, you have been asleep too long. Oh, and you have been had.
Thank you! Your insight is quite refreshing.
Is the planet hotter than in the Reagan administration? Yes, surely.
Is the planet cooler than 30,000 years ago?
Yes, surely.
Have you beclowned yourself on the Internet?
Yes, surely.
AGW is not only NOT the most important issue facing us today, it doesn’t even get uniform on game day and doesn’t even get to sit on the bench part time.
First, AGW has soiled itself and carries the stench of junk science…no, make that fraud science.
“Hide the decline”, fake studies about the Himalayas, conspiracy to create outcomes that rigged studies couldn’t even come up with…stinks of “redistribution” pyramid schemes.
When all the lies, distortions and out right fraudulent works are added up… and they lead to leftists concealing information and providing distortions in order to take money from American taxpayers to go to leftist slush funds…NOTHING that is said about AGW can be trusted.
When it turns out that the planet has not warmed in 12 years and they now say that cooling in California is due to warming….they have not a shred of credibility.
Pardon me, but if I wanted to listen to liars, frauds, cheats…I would go to a Democratic fundraiser or read the NYTimes.
And, when I see Al Gore, Barack Obama, Tom Friedman, Sean Penn, …..and all the loudmouths who have spewed this fraud science…actually LIVE as if they believe the planet is in trouble because of HUMAN “warming”…instead of as carbon farting gluttons…then, and only then will I give it an ounce of merit.
Let some REAL scientists who actually approach any hypothesis with the intent to disprove it as much as prove it…get their hands on some non-rigged evidence, and let’s see before we run around…AGAIN…screaming “the sky is falling”.
It’s garbage right now. It should be thrown out because it is tainted and diseased with leftist plots, schemes and con games.
And calling myself a “quantum physicist” or MENSA member or Albert Einstein isn’t what gives one credibility. It’s treating issues honestly, openly and with integrity that carries more weight with me. So far, the leftists pushing this hoax have none of the above.
Your post was interesting, cfbleachers.
Words notably present (in order): soiled … stench … junk … fraud … fake … conspiracy … rigged … stinks … pyramid scheme … lies … distortions .. fraudulent … leftists … slush funds … shred … liars … fraud … cheats … loudmouths … spewed … fraud … carbon-farting gluttons … rigged … screaming … garbage … tainted … diseased … plots … schemes … con games … hoax.
Words notably absent: mathematics, physics, reason, evidence.
Cfbleachers, even a paid propagandist could not have compiled a bigger end-to-end barrage of loaded terms than your post used. Hmmm … if your case was stronger, you wouldn’t have needed to lower yourself like that.
And that’s the simple thoughtful reason why American conservatives oughtta go with the US Navy on this one. Well done, Admiral Titley. Hopefully more American conservatives will come around to your professional point-of-view.
US Navy Chief Oceanographer: I Was Formerly a Climate Skeptic
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dcc0mV-n4
Everybody agreed that the Ice Age was coming in the 70′s.
Everybody agreed that something can’t be in two places at one time.
Everybody agreed that EVERY theory was the correct one…until a new one came along to disprove it.
I use the words of stain, stench and fraud…because I call them as I see them. And I’m not impressed by intentional deceit. What you have failed to address, is the very credibility destroying impact of that fraud.
And no, I don’t believe that Jon Huntsman or Mitt Romney has a damn thing on me in my ability to detect fraud. Probably substantially less, to tell you the truth.
The list of those who have NOT come to the conclusion (abetted by systemic fraud) that MAN is “causing” global warming…is equally impressive. Their scholarship and pedigree take no back seat to anyone.
So, constantly returning to the tired theme of “look who says this and agrees with me”, is notably absent any reference to the sterling list of those who do not. It does not advance the argument an inch and it certainly does not wipe away the stench and stain of fraud.
No theory worth its weight in carbon molecules needs to lie, distort, hide the decline, lie about polar bears, lie about the Himalayas, conspire, cheat and defraud. You are aligned with scum. That is a tough place to start.
To win people over it might help if you actually start by cleaning up the dishonesty and fraud…then, it might be an issue worth discussing.
Until then, we are going bankrupt because leftists had a number of other schemes to steal our money…this one will just have to wait.
cf, you probably saw the very intersting 3 part article about AlToad and his fantasy published recently by Walter Russel Mead and linked to from PJM. Here is Part III.
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/07/01/the-failure-of-al-gore-part-three-singing-the-climate-blues/
It had many important points, but the one that jumped out at me is that these nutjobs WANT to have their inane arguments about the “science”, for the simple reason that the “science”, stupid, arrogant, unscientific as it is, is still the best they’ve got. At least when they are discussing their “science”, they can link to and quote fellow travelers who have swallowed the con and are feeding on it.
That way, they avoid the even more galactically stupid topic of their sad, stupid and hopeless, earth destroying “solutions”.
So by engaging with this “physicist” idiot, you are doing exactly what he wants. Just flame him and let it go.
And read all 3 parts of Mead’s article. It’s brilliant
You waste your breathe responding to this ‘guy’. His links really don’t prove anything, neither do his posts. I strongly suspect he’s visited here before under another moniker. As a physicist he’s suspect, and beyond that, it’s pretty laughable – ie. he’s just here to annoy the regulars.
Yesterday I went downtown (pop. 8,552 citizens) to get a haircut at my conservative friends barbershop. All five of his barbers are old guys like me except for his 30 year old son who is John Stewart, Bill Maher, Colbert liberal with a defensive sound bite mind full of mush. Anyhow I was taking my friend two sacks full of history and some political booksbooks from The bio of John Paul Jones to The Story of Cod to a History of Quebec to The Ruling Class, none of it that hard of a read but very enjoyable and informative. My friend said thanks so much his son said ” Oh more of your propaganda, any Glenn Beck in there.” half threatening half kidding tone. I’ve known this kid since before he was born. I’m 62. I gave a smile and walked on out shaking my head in wonderment Good haircut by his dad. But what a head full of uninformed mush. He knows nothing about the wisdom in those books. Thanks
BTW I don’t watch Glenn Beck but I do/did watch Katie EVERY nite thanks to my wife and I do watch Breit Baier (sp) and CNN and yes fox, but not Hannity. Limbaugh is the funniest guy on the planet, Colbert has nothing on him and Dennis Miller is over the top. His tone was Mocking I should say not so threatening. Talking to this kid at that moment with all chairs full made no sense or would have gaffed him.
Another cri de coeur, Mr. Hanson. Oh, if only your words were telecast every night on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN et al!
As we continue to deal with the burgeoning economic crisis brought to us by our elected representatives, who’ve struck political gold with their pandering to voter’s public-schooled ignorance, an overarching thought occurred to me—
“The Constitution is not a suicide pact.”
It’s not easy to be other than pessimistic when one fully observes, understands and comes to transcend the factual state of American voter’s consciousness.
We have a few articulate leaders who’ve managed to fight their way to positions of prominence, and they are essentially expressions of what America was truly based upon—individual freedom, with limited government. And, the Constitution is definitely their lodestar!
Now, less than a year ago, I recall reading that by 2020 three fourths of Americans would be either overweight or obese—just being in public, the eyeballs can’t help but view the too many humans ALREADY in such a sick and dying condition!
And, just last week, what do you know—a headline screamed that NOW, in 2011, two out of three are FAT or OBESE!
Why, to get to 3/4ths from 2/3rds, for all you people who “mastered” fractions must know, is only to add ONE out of TWELVE!
So, guess who the newbies are?
“It’s all for the CHILDREN!”, a la Hillary, et al—and, anybody ever heard of Childhood Obesity, and Diabetes type A? Or is it type B, or C?
In any case, in the American pipeline, the slimmer oldsters are slipping into graves, and the fatter new-sters are oh so THERE, to take their place—and then SOME!
What about the Constitution as a suicide pact?
Well, writing as a 69 year old vegan male, who tilts the scales at 135 pounds at 5 feet 11 inches, who many years ago couldn’t help but catch sight of the growing number of fatsos, seeing the trend WORSEN over all those years serves to PROVE that heretofore, the “living” Constitution IS a suicide pact!
Why, it’s settled law that it’s “legal” to advertise a “legal” product! Stare decisis, and all that—a REAL man’s a man, for all THAT!
So, add to VDH’S list of (conventional wisdom suicidal) events CHOSEN by the American people, the IN-OUR-FACE physical evidence, of an overwhelming 2/3rds majority of citizens who have been led by their stupidity and/or gluttony to accumulate excess physical elements.
What a pitiful situation!
America has devolved into a nation of babies, when it comes to eating!
A truly SANE person, when becoming an adult (at least by then!), would buy a scale, and on a weekly basis, say, keep track of their weight. And, when reaching a limit—say, when not able to get into their pants anymore—realize that they DON’T NEED TO EAT ANYMORE, for a while!
Ah, but who listens to the body, when it SPEAKS the FAT truth!
Yes, Mr. Hanson, the spit has ALREADY hit the fan—in gross terms! Very GROSS terms.
When I hit boot camp at 18, I was 6’2″, 149 lbs. You could count every one of my bones. You are 5’11″, 135 lbs. You are proportionally skinnier than I was. That is disgusting.
Perhaps you should not throw stones, since you live in a faddish, artistic, blown-glass house.
Ah, yes.
Reduced to using the “disgusting” “skinny” put down, are we?
Forgive me, as in my super healthy CHOSEN bodily life, after all the years I sometimes forget how ignorant and/or programmed most fattening people are, as they CHOOSE to eat their way to an early and painful death.
I just assume a normally educated person knows that a lean body physically means much less work and stress on all the vital internal organs, which yields less wear and tear on them. Ergo, a longer and healthier life results.
The muscles that this “skinny” body retains definitely are adequate for doing long bike rides, working on my truck, gardening, walking and generally creating my own reality.
Except for minor injuries from a bike fall, and a few required physicals, this lean guy hasn’t seen a doctor since having the tonsils out.
Take care of yourself!
I seldom write commentary, but for some reason, I found this article to be hilarious. Not that I disagree with the premise, no not at all; it’s just funny when you realize how naive and witless the average American has become.
Great civilizations collapse internally. The US has reached the point of terminal stupidity; combine stupidity with the treachery of subversion by the Left, integrity being overwhelmed by decadence and self indulgence by the Right and we have a civilization in free fall decline.
Illegal Immigration by the millions, engaging in wars by Presidential whim, adopting failed Marxist economic templates for an economy, the posturing of morons posing as statesmen are all just symptoms of a fatal disease. It is all a comedy from the theater of the absurd and while you write commentary describing the impending collapse, the walls of the city are crumbling all around you; but take heart, you are witnessing and describing one of the greatest collapses in the history of the world. How many of us would have liked to chronicle the collapse of Rome with its stupidity, decadence, and incompetence, now is your chance.
Despite all of his broken promises Obama is for the left a good president. Will they be able to ever again psychologically deal with a president who is not one of them? My guess is no. They will start the insanity all over again. But it won’t work the next time because a lot of people have been effectively inoculated against the left’s insanity, maybe for an entire generation.
mathematics, physics, reason, evidence.
Evidence.
I love that.
There is no, that is zero, evidence that the globe is warming. And given that, there is certainly no evidence that man is causing the globe to warm.
Jay, ain’t it mighty peculiar that military strategists, businessmen, mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and outdoorsmen almost universally agree that AGW is real?
Hmmmm … what is it that these folks know … that political pundits, talk-show hosts, and Big Carbon’s hired shills don’t know?
Besides math, physics, and the evidence of their own eyes, that is?
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US Navy Chief Oceanographer: I Was Formerly a Climate Skeptic
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3dcc0mV-n4
Phyz,
I am more of a cynic than a skeptic as the same people who preach and prosletyze incessantly about Global errr Climate Change are the same ones who come up with partially useful undynamic solutions to the stated problem like windmills, solar, geothermal, hydro, and cap and trade, and killing camels to reduce camel meth farts,and such….Period. Bring up nuclear, R&D on Fracking, tar sands, drilling, etc. as bridge energy to the future and you are immediately derided as a loon or a Nazi or worst of all,,aaaaahhhhaaahha. A HATE-FILLED, CHILD KILLING, GRANDMA OVER THE CLIFF REPUBLICAN.
I posted on an AGW activist site by accident not to long ago suggesting the gamit in solutions should the oceans rise twenty feet in the next few years and they included nuclear, R&D on Fracking, wind, solar, hydro, etc., etc. and the response I got was as follows: “denier turd”, “rush idiot”, “get off our site you are too stupid to be here” and other choice thoughts on solutions. BUT not ONE response to my rather lengthy and I thought ever so intelligent and thoughtful insightful interim to full solutions.
I did not state whether I was a believer or not when I posted on that site. Actually global warming is probably happening, I’m not a scientist, Hell I don’t know, but sure why not. But I DO agree with Jay re: comment #46, Yes I do, I wander the web enough and read enough to know he is right on that point. The opinion of AGW as real is NOT universal and the science IS NOT settled and finished. I don’t believe that even if there is global warming. (Note: As you know AGW and Global Warming are two different things and Gore and his crowd only entertain one view, their own)
Let’s say there is Global Climate errrrr Change and it is AGW and if it is what is it you suggest we do about it other than lecture all of us about how stupid we are. I can tell you that gets pretty old. And actually, I am sure this is hard to believe, but many of us on this site are pretty intelligent in our own right and have had very successful careers solving problems, albeit not in Climate Science or Climate Politics for that matter.
Still I find the easiest job in the world to be a problem identifier and or creator and the toughest job solving those problems, real or imagined, INTELLIGENTLY and not just throwing money at them, which over the years I have found is the Liberal solution to everything. Throw other peoples’s money at it and it will go away. Bad dog, go away, here take this money.
It doesn’t work Phyz.
Once again repeating history, Obama and this administration and the liberal citizens have to see it all again, well actually not for me and many others on this site.
Thanks. I’ll take your answer off line.
Funny how you keep quoting one particular person that was formerly a global warming skeptic, when there are others that were global warming true believers that have now recanted.
If warming theory was right, it’d fit the facts, right? That is the definition of science, after all. Well, as it turns out, *every* theory of global warming says that there has to be warming in the upper atmosphere; it’s a core assumption of all such theories.
Except, there IS NO WARMING IN THE UPPER ATMOSPHERE. None. Not even a little bit.
This former global warming believer lines it all out:
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/04/07/climate-models-go-cold/
Global warming theory is completely bogus because the FACTS say otherwise, and no amount of bluster on your part can change that. The house of cards has fallen down and you’ll never be able to reassemble it.
Thanks Fin,
Great piece by Evans. I suspect all of us at one time or another have read several articles like this and that is why we are skeptics. Physicist If he/she read it and I doubt he/she would, would simply say that Evans uses selective points of discussion, has fallen into the idiot denier camp and then move on to the next site to pontificate on his vast knowledge of AGW with I might add no meaningful solutions. It is a game of fear, which the left has become quite adept at conveying to the populace.
Your blog name, ‘a physicist’ certainly does not define you, for your statement of “military strategists, businessmen, mathematicians, scientists, engineers, outdoorsmen….universally agree..that AGW is real’ has to be one of the most unscientific statements I’ve seen in a long time.
After all, there is no ‘common scientific element’ in this group. What the heck to they have, as a common knowledge base, and with specific reference to expertise in climatology, that would enable them to ‘universally’ agree on AGW? There’s nothing common to all of them.
Second, it is a scientific fact that AGW is rejected by many, many, climatologists…and physicists…and mathematicians. I won’t go further into your list for I see no reason to consider that a military strategist, businessman or outdoorsman is a valid source of climatology information. All you need to do is google the terms ‘scientists against global warming’ as well as ‘scientists against AGW’ ( including McIntyre and McKitrick)..and you’ll find that your astonishingly unscientific claim of ‘universal agreement’ is rubbish.
It is equally strange for you, who claim that you are a physicist, to declare that opposition to AGW is only held by non-scientists. Surely you know this is untrue. Equally, climate change is hardly disputable; the earth warms and cools, naturally, over centuries. AGW, however, is disputable and unproven.
So, based on the evidence, you are obviously not ‘a physicist’ but a cultist of AGW.
Your are utterly fire-proof; in that you possess absolutely no sense of self-awareness of how completely silly, hysterical and UN-scientific you come off when you state such crapage as this:
“…ain’t it mighty peculiar that military strategists, businessmen, mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and outdoorsmen almost universally agree that AGW is real?”
That’s quite a numerically large and diverse subgroup of the population comprised of people you say are in “almost universal agreement.” What does almost universal agreement constitute as a percentage, 70%? 80%? 90%?
You also keep trotting out the chief meterologist of the Navy as some sort of final, unimpeachable source of corroboration. I find it risible that while lefties have historically never trusted the military about anything [Nuclear arsenals, Reagan's Star Wars initiative, "wars-of-choice" like Iraq, vietnam, et all] you suddenly now embrace a military guy as prudent and right-thinking.
What you’re displaying with that example is a child-like ignorance of the world of politics. New prez comes in with a new agenda of which AGW-countering policies is major piece. What a coincidence! Suddenly the military has a defense-related role in studying this existential threat to the U.S. You are too clueless to even imagine that at the least, the military was ordered to come up with a justification and a delineation of their new responsibilities and policies. At worst, they used this empty exercise as a means to get additional funding so they, like other like-minded “businessmen, mathematicians, scientists and engineers,” etc. could tap into the gravy train of no-strings government funding.
Cit: Line From Dr. Strangelove-
Gen. Buck Turgitson: “Excuse me Mr. President, but I think we need to look at this mine-shaft gap from a military perspective….”
MisterH, the assumption that every modern conservative is an AGW skeptic is just plain wrong on the facts.
Just like the assumption that back in the 1950s, every conservative was a smoking-causes-lung cancer skeptic.
For sure, though, in both decades, plenty of American conservatives *did* get fooled into embracing a skepticism that was not founded on science.
Largely because large corporations worked hard to fool them. Right?
Global Warming Advocates Flunk Ethics, and Credibility…Again
‘Jay, ain’t it mighty peculiar that military strategists, businessmen, mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and outdoorsmen almost universally agree that AGW is real?’
You are lying here.
I do not for one moment believe that you are a physicist. I don’t believe that you have any education or training in a scientific discipline. You may be a peripheral player in the AGW scam but I think that you are just one of the plethora of muddled marching morons who bought into it.
Jay, Any geoscientist will admit that the globe, on trend, is probably warming. It has been for at least 10,000 years (and cyclically before that numerous times). But “physicist” is a true believer and will never have the scales fall from his eyes about our impending anthropogenic disaster. He is more to be pitied than anything else (although justified derision is at least fun). He cites all the “evidence” that supports his “belief” but ignores reason and the evidence that is contradictory. That, simply put, is not science–it is naive and willfully stupid.
Victor great essay. Despite some of the replies by so called Republicans winning about not being republican enough, (beware of cowboys dressed up as Indian’s) I believe we will make progress. Just look at the respect our men and women in the armed forces are now shown. Remember how the grey beards of today who were the hippies of yesteryear, spit and chanted baby killers to anyone in a uniform. These are the the leaders in the MSM, accademia, and government. Remember the slogan of the 60s left, “vote locally but think globally” well for the most part any democratic politician from a school board to a president is steeped in socialist ideals and needs to be defeated. It has now come to this. Any Republican is better than a socialist democrat.
Jay, ain’t it mighty peculiar that military strategists, businessmen, mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and outdoorsmen almost universally agree that AGW is real?
You mean other than the more than 31,000 scientists across the U.S. – including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s in fields such as atmospheric science, climatology, Earth science, environment and dozens of other specialties – have signed a petition rejecting global warming, right?
I do rather enjoy you re-posting over & over that 1 person from the Navy used to be a global warming skeptic.
As if that means something.
Jay, it’s way overdue for AGW skeptics like you to grab your shotgun, rifle, fly-rod, bow, waders, canoe, and just plain camera and get yourself out-of-doors.
That’s where you can join-up with Ducks Unlimited, Trout Unlimited, BASS/ESPN Outdoors, Izaak Walton League of America, the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, the Coastal Conservation Association, the American Sportfishing Association, Pheasants Forever, the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, the Wildlife Management Institute, Delta Waterfowl or the Boone and Crockett Club.
Whichever of these “watermelon” organizations floats your boat, Jay.
`Cuz the members of these outdoors organizations all have enough common sense to believe what their own eyes are telling them, and their life-long wilderness experience, are telling them.
Got any more questions, Jay? `Cuz it appears that America’s hunters and fishers have joined up with America’s military and scientists.
Makes for a kinda tough bunch, don’t it? Kinda makes a person think twice, eh?
Yeah .. it’s getting to where there ain’t all that many AGW skeptics left … `cept among the professional political rabble-rousers, the radio talk-show hosts, Big Carbon’s hired shills … and the folks who listen to them.
Heck … maybe AGW skeptics are gettin’ to be the *real* endangered species. Good! :) :) :)
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Season’s End: Global Warming’s Threat to Hunting and Fishing
URL: http://www.seasonsend.org/understanding_science.shtml
And that proves what?
So if you want advice on how to perform open-heart surgery, you call a plumber?
and the evidence of their own eyes,
There is no evidence.
None.
Zero.
Which is why you can’t produce any, for example.
Why on earth would IPCC have falsified all those years of data and careers of inflata if it had not had to, on pain of having no ‘crisis’ with which to perpetrate their whatever the hell it is?
I read the comments and I realize that the trolls are playing a game:
VDH has put together a wonderful column in which he lists hundreds of contradictions and self-contradictions of the lefties in the last few years
…and what do the trolls answer ?
That the planet is warming.
The trolls simply adopt the discussion “strategies” of any good prosecutor in Stalin’s Soviet Union.
We are talking with a wall, a wall of ideology.
It does not matter to them that they have been proven wrong one gazillion times, they are “sure” that they will be right NEXT time.
Ideology is an addiction, like gambling.
And by the way, ideology (marxism leninism) is leading America where gambling leads the idiot addict. To poverty, misery, ruin.
Hey, but the planet is warming, you know !!??!!
Forget about the Sun and other little details like that. Gore tells you what TRUE science is.
Gore, and comrade Stalin, tell you what science is.
And if you don’t believe comrade Stalin you MUST be a fascist or something.
(Of course Gore bought his villas on the beach AFTER producing his mockumentary, and uses 30 times the energy of any American family, but we knew already about that, the dachas and the nomenklatura.)
Well spoken.
See my response to cf in #39.
Libwit cultists love to discuss the “science” of global warming because they get to link to articles by their fellow con artists who scam millions from taxpayers to make up sham data to support their brainless theories. Just to sketch out how looney it is:
1) nobody knows if the planet is warming or not.
2) if it is, nobody knows if mankind contributes in a significant way.
3) if it is, nobody knows whether it is a good or bad phenomenon.
4) the “data” supposedly proving “warming” is fraudulent.
5) the “theory” is unproven and considered stupid by many scientists.
6) the “theory” ignores other little details like the sun, solar winds, the impact of the earth’s orbit, volcanos, and the impact of plate tectonics.
7) the “theory” has never made a valid prediction about the climate.
8) the “models” based on the “theory” have always been wrong.
9) if the planet is warming, it isn’t at all clear what can be done about it.
10) if man wanted to do something about “global warming”, nobody knows what can stop it since nobody has a clue what causes it, and
11) whatever might be done could do more harm than good.
Other than that, the theory is as good as gold.
The cultists find arguing about their “science” a lot more fun than having to justify their grand schemes for sending the planet back to the stone age. And it has the side benefit of distracting the rubes!!
For a more detailed discussion of the psychosis, see the brilliant series about Al Gore by Walter Russell Mead. Part 3 is here:
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2011/07/01/the-failure-of-al-gore-part-three-singing-the-climate-blues/
Rear Admiral David Titley was appointed to his current offices in 2009 and 2011 – under the Obama Administration.
Anyone wanna’ bet his conversion to AGW believer didn’t contriute to the assignments? Significantly?
Old Bob, let’s take a look at the line-up.
On the AGW-believing side, we got a coalition of America’s foremost military strategists, businessmen, mathematicians, scientists, engineers, and outdoorsmen.
On the AGW-skeptic side, we got a coalition of political ideologues, large-mouth radio-pundits, hired flacks, and (as Jay’s post reminds us) a buncha OISM guys who live in a compound in Oregon and circulate dubious petitions.
IMHO, any brand of conservatism that bets on the skeptic team is mighty badly deluded.
Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine (OISM)
URL: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Oregon_Institute_of_Science_and_Medicine
Any discussion of ‘climate’ must include an acknowledge of continuous change. Any discussion of ‘science’ must include the recognition that ‘settled science’ is an oxymoron.
Arguing that climate change is a result of human behaviors and those who ‘deny’ the dogma are pundits or ideologues merely underscores the arrogance of the proponent.
Having said that, I will no longer contribute to your attempt to hijack this thread away from Prof. Hanson’s article.
Old Bob,
“Settled science” is truly an oxymoron. “the physicist” on the other hand, is just a moron.
I would pay to belong to a website that would limit his contributions to a maximum of two!
On the AGW-skeptic side, we got a coalition of political ideologues, large-mouth radio-pundits, hired flacks, and (as Jay’s post reminds us)
You couldn’t name 2 “hired flacks”
Also, note that you keep repeating “everyone says so” rather than providing actual evidence.
Gee, I wonder why that is?
Jay, it took less than 30 seconds to find a “smoking gun”. Thank you, SourceWatch! :)
Gosh … that’s funny … Japan’s Kyushu Electric Power just got caught doing the same thing … Kyushu’s corporate shills were caught posing as “ordinary citizens”.
Does that add up to “two”, Jay? :) :) :)
By the way … does anyone here think the Boone and Crockett Club can be bought as easily as a congressman, or hired as easily as a corporate astro-turfer? No? Me neither … those B&C guys are *tough*. :) :) :)
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=American_Coalition_for_Clean_Coal_Electricity#ACCCE_lobbying_firm_forges_letters_to_U.S._Congressman
Thanks VDH, yours is a welcome voice of sanity!
I’m really more of a lurker than a commenter, but the “experts” are really telling us it’s OK to pay our VISA bill with our Discover Card, and then that with American Express, etc.
We of course will end up the same way anyone would who doesn’t become sane, BROKE!
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Now *that* is a sensible reply.
Because it’s not really about money (all forms of which are purely symbolic).
And it’s not even really about jobs.
What’s it’s really about is honest, family-supporting work … useful dignified work for everyone … especially young people.
A topic about which (strangely) the Republicans and Democrats are equally silent … and clueless.
Is America *really* short of work that needs to be done? Absolutely not.
Is America short of folks who respect work, and are willing to do it themselves? Folks who hire other folks, to do still more work, with money they earn by their own work? Absolutely yes.
Yeah … it’s all about work … a word one doesn’t hear enough nowadays … from either party.
Everyone wants to prosper without work … but that ain’t never gonna happen … in any America that the Founders envisioned.
Work is not in scarcity. Money is. Since everyone voluntarily spends money in the private market to get what they want, and unless they are connected, give money to government grudgingly and expect to get nothing that they don’t already have, the key is that the sole source of money, the reciprocal of wealth that bears the same relation to wealth as the eletron bears to the proton, is profit. Increase the amount of profit in the economy and we will have more money and more people will be rich. This is why capitalist economies devoted to profit always get richer and by getting richer they attract more capital (money) from other economies. Because government never tries to make a profit, and frankly does not yet know why it has to make a profit, economies that squeeze out their private sector by growing their public sector always destroy the value of their money supply, mostly through public consumption (the private sector being like a muscle, the public sector being like a stomach, and the excretory system that goes with it). I think it only takes three generations of government monopoly to completely destroy the money supply and then there is no one to produce and no one to tax and in Russia and China 700 million people died of early starvation, war, labor camp fatalities, torture and execution. After the money supply was destroyed there was nothing left over to feed those millions.
Now China is the only large country on the planet that has woken up to the value of profit, and has more money than it knows what to do with. If we start teaching our children the value of profit, we will be fine. Socialists like Obama are too brain dead to ever get it, so just send them to the golf links and forget about them.
The real problem is the “liberal” thinking and how they apply it. Here’s an example: My wife’s best friend is a liberal which causes lots of friction. On the 4th of July we were invited to a barbeque at this lady’s house. Yes, they claim to love America too. However, here were her terms. We could not talk about “politics” as it is insensitive to other people’s feelings. Now, under no circumstances would we ever invite her, or anybody else, over and censor their conversation. Yet, this is exactly what this lady did. My wife was quite shaken by the terms of the invitation; but, I delighted in it. The first thing I did was to go to the store and buy gallons of tea and chicken wings. The tea is self explanatory, but the wings were of different intention. On purpose, I overbought the number of chicken wings. I was going to make hot wings but use only right wings. To my absolute disgust, when I opened the four packages of wings, I found only five right wings. That meant that out of forty wings, only five were right wings. I went ahead with my recipe and cooked all the wings. Then I divided the wings into two containers. The right wings couldn’t be with the left wings because they wouldn’t get along. Up on my arrival at the lady’s house, I presented her with about two gallons of tea and my chicken wings. The tea got the expected giggle from everyone there; however, it was my explanation of the wings that got the real laugh and made its point. The wings came in two containers because they wouldn’t get along. There was only five right wings in one container because of the Great California Left Chicken Wing Conspiracy. Enough said, I made my point.
Let’s talk a bit about those folks like A physicist who are firmly convinced of their ability to understand great issues much better than the common people. Allow me to quote just a few.
Races to be studied: the Aryans.— For purposes of widest comparison in tracing the development of government it would of course be desirable to in¬clude in a study of early society not only those Aryan and Semitic races which have played the chief parts in the history of the world, but also every primi¬tive tribe, whether Hottentot or Iroquois, Finn or Turk, of whose institutions and development we know anything at all. Such a world-wide survey would be necessary to any induction which should claim to trace government in all its forms to a common archetype. But, practically, no such sweeping together of incongruous savage usage and tradition is needed to construct a safe text from which to study the governments that have grown and come to full flower in the political world to which we belong. In order to trace the lineage of the European and American governments which have constituted the order of so¬cial life for those stronger and nobler races which have made the most notable progress in civilization, it is essential to know the political history of the Greeks, the Latins, the Teutons, and the Celts principally, if not only, and the original political habits and ideas of the Aryan and Semitic races alone. The existing governments of Europe and America furnish the dominating types of today. To know other systems that are defeated or dead would aid only indi¬rectly towards an understanding of those which are alive and triumphant, as the survived fittest.
Woodrow Wilson in The State.(The actual title is much longer, but this is how it is usually abbreviated.) http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?documentprint=1146
Madison Grant-Grant was a close friend of several U.S. presidents, including Theodore Roosevelt and Herbert Hoover, and also was an avid conservationist. He is credited with saving many natural species from extinction, and co-founded the Save-the-Redwoods League with Frederick Russell Burnham, John C. Merriam, and Henry Fairfield Osborn in 1918. He is also credited with helping develop the first deer hunting laws in New York state, legislation which spread to other states as well over time.
He was also the creator of wildlife management, helped to found the Bronx Zoo, build the Bronx River Parkway, save the American bison as an organizer of the American Bison Society, and helped to create Glacier National Park and Denali National Park.
In 1906, as Secretary of the New York Zoological Society, he lobbied to put Ota Benga, a Congolese pygmy, on display alongside apes at the Bronx Zoo.
He was the author of the book “The Passing of the Great Race” He was, by all accounts, a progressive dujour.
Grant became a part of popular culture in 1920s America, especially in New York. Grant’s conservationism and fascination with zoological natural history made him very influential among the New York elite who agreed with his cause, most notably Theodore Roosevelt. Author F. Scott Fitzgerald featured a reference to Grant in The Great Gatsby. Tom Buchanan, the husband of Daisy Buchanan, the novel’s principal woman character, was reading a book called The Rise of the Colored Empires by “this man Goddard”, a combination of Passing of the Great Race (Grant) and his colleague Lothrop Stoddard’s The Rising Tide of Color Against White World Supremacy (Stoddard; Grant wrote the introduction to Stoddard’s book). “Everybody ought to read it”, the character explained, “The idea is if we don’t look out the white race will be—will be utterly submerged. It’s all scientific stuff; it’s been proved.” However, throughout the book Tom espouses Goddard’s racial theories confusedly; the narrator calls Tom’s focus on Goddard’s ideas “pathetic.”
Grant left no offspring when he died in 1937 of nephritis. Several hundred people attended Grant’s funeral, and he was buried in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery in Tarrytown, New York. He left a bequest of $25,000 to the New York Zoological Society to create “The Grant Endowment Fund for the Protection of Wild Life”, left $5,000 to the American Museum of Natural History, and left another $5,000 to the Boone and Crockett Club.
I know it’s probably amazing to the typical reader here that the Boone and Crockett club as cited by the much better educated physicist above, could possibly be any kind of Progressive club is just silly, and we all know what a damn conservative Woodrow Wilson was.
Most of what I have posted Grant is a cut and paste out of Wikipedia, not a true reference site in my opinion, but an easy site to cut/paste off of. More in depth investigation on Grant, his life and his beliefs are easily found, as well as who the same impacted. There is nothing on Wikipedia that cannot be fully verified.
Just remember, eugenics was settled science, all the more intelligent understood that.
Next, physicist, lets have a conversation about Herbert Marcuse, Martin Heidegger and the Nazi’s.
VDH has written a really excellent tour d’horizon on six years when the Left decided to “cry havoc and let loose the dogs of war” without any regard to the consequences. The Bush years and advent of Obama fully crystallized the self-regard and petty intellectualism of the Left into a “WE ARE ALWAYS RIGHT” posture that was fully abetted by the MSW. I’ve always viewed it as an inevitable result of the “niceness” endlessly advocated by progressives. If you are a liberal you have to continuously police yourself (and others) against “hate” speech and be “compassionate” about everything from race relations to the fate of the yellow-bellied sapsucker. Bush gave the Left an excuse to break loose in a primal scream of hatred that really let them get in touch with their more feral selves.
Claiming that Bush and co. were either stupid or evil was like getting an instant graduate degree. You instantly became a member of the self-appointed smart set. It seemed to validate the smug sense of superiority long held by the liberal-left going back to the New Deal. This also required that everything about 9/11 be minimized lest the Bush Administration gain some sort of political advantage from fighting terrorism. Thus Democrats had to “be for the war before they were against it” and engage in back-breaking exercises of moral equivalence which radical Islam immediately picked up and has since used brilliantly.
Obama rode in on the wave of the fiscal crisis and the Lefts always-present desire for a Leviathan that they could worship and who would smite their enemies with a fiery sword. Despite the awful track record of Mr. Obama the Left still clings to him not because of what he has done but because fealty to Obama is proof (so they believe) of their own intellectual superiority. We see this being repeated in the endless attacks on the “stupidity” of Sarah Palin and increasingly Michelle Bachmann.
Right now one of the most important economic and political decisions in living memory is being made – The decision on raising the debt ceiling and cutting back the size of government. The Left refuses to acknowledge (as Mark Steyn says) that “we are the brokest nation in history.” They are going to use the weapons forged from 2004 to the present, not just against the GOP leadership, but against reason itself. To do otherwise would be to admit that they are not all that smart and that there are things beyond the control of progressive policy nostrums. This is impossible for them to do. After all, they are the smartest and most moral people on the planet. To admit that conservatives are right about anything is to admit that they are wrong. At this point I really believe that they will take the entire nation down rather than do that.
BTW – Everyone should make their own decisions but I would advise against engaging with trolls like “physicist” above. He (or she) will never answer directly and uses that annoying pseudo-folksy slang to make himself look soooo clever. He’s an enviromental totalitarian who, like all of his ilk, sees AGW as the golden opporunity to fasten a top-to-bottom political regimentation on society to avoid ‘climate change.” A perfect example of the insulated petty intellectual that I mentioned above.
I have another quibble with the VDH article. Whenever comparisons are drawn between GWBush and Obama, and someone concludes: “Why, Obama and GW Bush are just alike!” followed by 1) The War in Iraq vs War in Libya 2) Gitmo 3) Spending sprees/bailouts, etc. I think it’s incumbent upon the reader to also consider the differences. In my opinion, the differences far outweigh the superficial similarities. At the very least Bush understood “American interests” and sought to defend them — Obama only understands de-friending allies and befriending enemies. This runs throughout Obama’s policies — both domestic (for example, Obama’s cronies appointed to 6-figure salaries, from Van Jones to a La Raza campaigner — harming U.S. interests) and foreign affairs (befriending the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, remaining mute on Syria, extending “his hand” to Iran, etc.) Finally, Gw Bush, for all his flaws, would never have endorsed such madness/idiocy as “leading from behind”! or making sure that America is never, ever pre-eminent in the world (whether militarily or in science and technology).
“Finally, Gw Bush, for all his flaws, would never have endorsed such madness/idiocy as “leading from behind”!”
I have to disagree with you. Bush was completely ignorant of foreign affairs when he ran in 2000. He freely admitted his ignorance. He campaigned on a “humble foreign policy”. Only after we were mugged on 9/11 did he change his tune.
Sure, he did what he thought was best for America, when such things actually caught his attention. Most times, though, he was busy being another crony-capitalist, big-government, “moderate” Republican. In other words, Bush is Left of Center, a Democrat in Republican clothes. He has more in common than he has differences with Obama, which is why Obama adopted so many of his policies. McCain would have been very little different from Obama. He would have wrapped himself in the flag more, is all.
To me, a Conservative, they seem very little different, something like the difference between a “moderate” Muslim and a “radical” Muslim. It is a matter of degree of devotion. The cause they support is the same. The thinking processes are the same. The instincts are the same. The Kool-Aid carries the same poison, even if one bucket of Kool-Aid is more watered than the other.
One can’t write this story without assigning any blame to G.W. Bush and his administration. That’s a pretty major flaw in this narrative. America didn’t really go mad as much as it got angry with one party and turned to the only other party available to get rid of it.
The Democratic takeover of Congress and Obama’s win were entirely predictable swings of the pendulum because the ruling Republicans just plain didn’t deliver. After the Bush presidency resulted mostly in two rather expensive wars (with at least questionable rationales behind both of them), a massive expansion of spending, new and more bureaucracy and federal powers, work permits for illegals and only some token tax relief. It would be a lie to say the right half of the American body politic was happy with Bush or congressional Republicans if they were being honest with themselves.
Bush’s downfall wasn’t Michael Moore or other left-wing loudmouths, his downfall was that he didn’t pursue a coherent agenda and most importantly got America entangled in a foreign conflict on false premises. The American people supported the war when it looked like it would be a quick “in and out in six months” victory a la 1990-91 and when they thought Saddam was a bad day away from raining down nukes on Israel, once both those ideas crumbled, the war became a heavy political burden. Bush and the GOP had invested so much political capital in it, that it was almost impossible to recover from it.
Pretty much spot on analysis.
Jay, it took less than 30 seconds to find a “smoking gun”. Thank you, SourceWatch! :)
Um, you did not such thing.
But keep on pretending.
Does that add up to “two”, Jay? :) :) :)
Considering you didn’t name two “flacks,” No.
But we knew you couldn’t do that.
I guess linking to a left wing advocacy group counts as “fact” to you.
sitting here watching the madness on the news is depressing. my retired dad hunts around Ga. constantly, and he informed me that the farmers are having trouble getting the crops in. the mexicans are gone, scared of the new laws. i haven’t heard about any mass north to south border crossings, so they just went to other states. the farmers will tell you right quick that (mostly) blacks and others won’t do the work. the pay is $12/hr. and up. that is pretty good $$ here, for unskilled workers. there is serious partying around the 1st of the month in every ‘hood’ down here, especially in the small farming communities. it is very obvious that welfare is much better than working for a living. if these ‘democrats’ get any fatter, we are going to have to start hauling them around in dump trucks.
so my question is, if mexicans are killing themselves to get here to work, make enough illegally to support themselves and send billion$ back home, what kind of person can’t find a job? are the mexicans just better workers? believe me, i already have a good idea about the real answer.
maybe we could keep some of the honest mexicans and trade mexico some of our burger fattened 300 lb. democrats.
Take away their govnm’t checks and they’ll work for earnest $$$. I suspect that if the illegals were getting govnm’t free money, they wouldn’t want to work either.
LOL … Jay, it’s clear why yah don’t like SourceWatch.
But yah know, Jay … the folks who hunt, fish, hike, climb, and kayak up here in the PNW ain’t fooled by these Big Carbon tricks … we can see with our own eyes that the planet is warming … and we know that “Mother Nature cannot be fooled.”
And that’s why Ducks Unlimited, Trout Unlimited, BASS/ESPN Outdoors, Izaak Walton League of America, the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, the Coastal Conservation Association, the American Sportfishing Association, Pheasants Forever, the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, the Wildlife Management Institute, Delta Waterfowl, the Boone and Crockett Club … and dozens more organizations … are finding plenty of recruits nowadays.
And yep, these folks all vote. American conservatism is wrong to deny them.
We live in an age of bubbles. We had the great dot-com bubble in the late 1990s, which was replaced with the housing-market bubble that crashed in 2007-2008, which in turn was replaced with the great Obama bubble of 2008. Unfortunately, that bubble still has not completely deflated. Each of them has caused damage to America, but the first was probably the least damaging.
LOL … Jay, it’s clear why yah don’t like SourceWatch.
It is a left wing advocacy organization that is making a bunch of silly accusations.
Nothing, not one single thing, you’ve posted, provides the slightest bit of actual proof the globe is warming.
we can see with our own eyes that the planet is warming … and we know that “Mother Nature cannot be fooled.
Too bad you can’t find any actual temperature data to go along with “mother nature,” huh?
Articulate young people sit in little booths every day, dialing around America on a variety of public issues, searching for ‘white hat’ citizens who can be persuaded to endorse the political objectives
And this means the 9,000 + PhD’s willing to sign a petition saying there is no global warming are “flacks” how _____ again?
Oh, you’re simply flinging poo.
Never mind.
PS, I did rather enjoy this:
Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’.
The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.
Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.
And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.
But what does he know, he was only the head of the CRU. Maybe SourceWatch can quote him from the boiler room?
Reality has a funny way of intruding on your “facts”
While we are busy lamenting the past Barak is busy planning his future- and yours.
A few weeks ago a new General Counsel was appointed to the Federal Election Commission. The FEC is in charge of administering election finance law and overseeing its enforcement. The General Counsel decides which cases the 120 lawyers of the FEC prosecute and which they don’t.
The new GC is one Anthony Herman, formerly Senior Partner of Covinton & Burling. For those who may not know C & B had another well known partner…. Eric Holder.
Herman was also the head of Covingtons ” Pro Bono Committee”. That committee resulted in C&B being the firm that represented more Gitmo detainees than any other firm. C&B has extensive Middle East operations in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic states.
Get it? The next election will be bought with petro dollars. And the guy in charge of making sure the rules are followed is, well, perhaps a wee bit compromised.
Professor Hanson remarks well on past insanity. My fear is that the insanity has just begun.
Exactly. As interesting and informed are many of the comments, one thing seems to be missing,the urgency for action. While Obama and his troops continue their blitzkrieg through our rights and laws,those who object vent their dismay. Hitler used the same tactics frightening politicians and forcing people to look to their own safety and defend what they could. For politicians it was named appeasement. Can we say the intake of 2010 into Congress and Judiciary have acted, are acting, any differently from Chamberlain?
At the moment Obama and his generals are laughing at those who are not on side, knowing them to HOPE they’ll CHANGE without strong counter-attack. Words are NOT effective when real assaults are happening. Talk a rapist out of his aims is taught in self-defense classes for females. Just how effective is talk with determined rapists?They’ve got you by the short and curlies and know it and are having the time of their lives watching the girlie limpwristed “attacks”. Action still speaks louder than words. Didn’t they teach you that in those psych classes, or those discussion groups? Obama and his troops certainly know it.
I sent Roger an email on this and he replied that he would look into it further. Lets see what a little attention on this subject will do.
Liberals have never cared about facts. They are all about knee-jerk emotion and stalinist belief systems. In their quest to feel good about themselves they have driven this nation to brink of collapse and are likely to give it the final nudge over the edge (all because they cannot muster the self-control to stop spending….a skill most households in America takes as an elemental, no brainer step when times are tough). Democrats have never been good at elemental, no brainer steps.
Instead, they are really good at demonstrations. Lots of demonstrations, with giant puppets and agit-prop “street theatre”, slogans, chanting and songs about their dear leaders (creepily reminiscent of the crap North Koreans teach their kids to sing about Kim Jong Il). Remember:
“Ummm, Ummmm, Ummmm. Bar-ack Hussein O-bama. Ummm. Ummm. Ummmm.”, or “Obama will lead the way”.
Well, nearly 50% of Americans pay zero income tax, 10% of Americans pay 70% of the cost of our federal government, Obama and the Democrats have added approximately six trillion dollars to our debt since 2006, preciptated the sub-prime mortgage collapse and have managed to keep us in the longest economic crisis since the great depression.
If you live in a U.S. urban area, especially a liberal center, you would best consider relocating before the greek-style civil unrest erupts.
Just closing he bolding tag. Someone hafta.
Da physicist–what a funny fella. The moment someone uses “science is settled” I know he/she’s a fraud or a tool. The fundamental concept of science is based on just the opposite.
Maybe now.
Giving up. It strips out closing tags but leaves in the opening ones.
Try the London Telegraph’s James Delingpole …. good stuff!
By James Delingpole Politics
More dangerous than Al Qaeda
Former US secretary to the United Nations John Bolton once famously said: “The [UN] Secretariat building in New York has 38 stories. If it lost ten stories it wouldn’t make a bit of difference.” (H/T Milo)
But I’d say Bolton was being too modest in his aspirations. Far too modest. I’d suggest that if we lost all 38 stories the benefits to mankind would be almost incalculable. Right now, indeed, it’s likely that the United Nations poses a far greater threat to Western Civilisation and the world’s economic future than Al Qaeda does. Have a glance at its latest report World Economic And Social Survey 2011 – and you’ll see what I mean.
The report argues that over the next 40 years our governments must spend an annual minimum of $1.9 trillion – that’s an eyewatering $76 trillion – steering the global economy onto the path of “green growth.”
But “Green growth” – as the report more or less acknowledges – is an oxymoron. That’s why, even though it was supervised by an alleged economist, Dutchman Rob Vos, the report is not at all ashamed to advocate limiting economic growth through rationing, punitive taxation and other forms of government intervention. Why? To combat “Climate Change”, of course.
Here’s the kicker:
“Hence, if, for instance, emission reduction targets cannot be met through accelerated technological progress in energy efficiency and renewable energy generation, it may be necessary to impose caps on energy consumption itself in order to meet climate change mitigation in a timely manner. Proposals to put limits on economic growth can be viewed in this context.” (P.19)
And if shaving off $1.9 trillion from the world economy each year (that’s 3 per cent of the world gross product in 2010) results in further economic stagnation and a lower standard of living for our children and grandchildren, well what the hell. As the report primly tells us, none of us actually needs to earn more than $10,000 a year. Anything more is greedy:
“For example, taking life expectancy as an objective measure of the quality of life, it can be seen that life expectancy does not increase much beyond a per capita income of about $10,000. Similarly…cross-country evidence suggests that there are no significant additional gains in human development (as measured by the human development index) beyond the energy-use level of about 110 gigajoules (GJ) (or two tons of oil equivalent (toe) per capita.”
Are they seriously suggesting that developed economies should ration their people’s energy use? They surely are:
“The Survey estimates that the emissions cap would be equivalent to primary energy consumer consumption of 70 gigajoules per capita per year, which means that the average European would have to cut his or her energy consumption by about half and the average resident of the US by about three quarters.”
So, instead of being able to enjoy a hot shower every day all you Americans, you’ll now confine your warm ablutions to weekends only. Same goes for air-con in summer. And heating in winter. Welcome to the New Green World Order.
What’s amazing about this stuff – and believe me, there’s plenty more where this came from – is the unblushing shamelessness with which it advocates this economic insanity. Here is the world’s most powerful intergovernmental institution essentially arguing for the destruction of the global economy, enforced rationing, Marxist wealth redistribution, greater regulation, the erosion of property rights and global governance by a new world order of technocrats and bureacrats. And being so upfront about it they actually issue press releases, telling us what they’re planning to do and encouraging us to write about it.
This is the thing that amazed while I was researching my book Watermelons. If the global green movement is any kind of conspiracy, then it’s a conspiracy in plain sight. The people in power who are advancing its agenda – be it President Obama’s house eco-activists John Holdren and Carol Browner, Green MP Caroline Lucas, and all those faceless apparatchiks at the UN and the EU – make absolutely no bones about what it is that they want to do to save the world from the peril of “Climate Change”: the end of Industrial Civilisation.
Which might be just about understandable if the crisis we were facing were so great that only the most extreme measures would suffice. But the crisis they describe is non-existent. As I argue in the second half of my book, economic growth and true environmentalism – as opposed to the sick, bastardised, warped, hair-shirt perversion of it currently being dumped on us by the Greenies – go hand in hand.
As economies grow richer, so they have more money to set aside for cleaner rivers, fresher air, as well as to invest in R & D projects for ever more eco-friendly forms of energy. It’s no coincidence that quite the worst environmental damage in the last century was done in those countries behind the Iron Curtain. Free market economies tend naturally to be cleaner and healthier because clean and healthy is what people choose anyway if they can afford it. They don’t need government to step in and take their money in order to spend it inefficiently trying to achieve something which would have happened quite naturally anyway.
What this ludicrous UN report is advocating is the exact opposite of what the world needs if it is to become genuinely greener. All those people in the developing world, if they’re to live healthier, less environmentally damaging lives the very last thing they need is hand-outs from richer economies. What they need is property rights and free trade and the chance to grow their economy to the point where – cf the Kuznets Curve – they can afford the luxury of having to breed fewer children and to heat and light their homes without having to chop down the nearest trees. What they also need for us in the rich X
Blah blah blah, been talking about the same thing for 3 years now, why, Sarah Palin! She caused the reaction that was so ugly and vile people like me had to stand up and defend her. I’ve been following this crap and I’m so disgusted I won’t even let my son near a college! Living in CA, my once beautiful state and watching it import a class of poor that for sure eats anything green and watch our government play games with these people is disgusting. I blame the Republicans, they are the ones that set the stage, Bush was more liberal than the liberals and screwed them all up. Now we have Romney who is “next”, well buck up boys that is not going to happen!! It’s so funny no one talks about the HISTORIC election in Nov 2010, who do you think did that? We’re still out here and growing and we’re coming after all you liberals, Democrat and Republican!!! :) grrrr !!!
Well, the Left has always been mad. This condition has exacerbated in the USA by the fact that we had so much wealth that we actually gave these people good and often influential jobs in which they could not only spew their insanity but, more importunately, avoid the consequences of it. The collective madness of the last decade is mostly due to the fact that they have reached a level of penetration in key institution such that they have control of those institution.
This is, in part, a product of the Baby Boom. It s hard to see how this might change on the near to mid term.
I am really not sanguine about a reversal of this as Dr. H appears to be. To “cleanse” those institutions” of the Left and change the consciousness of the nation away from the Leftist narrative so predominate on this culture would deem to require a “revolution” as radical as the French or Russia revolutions. I do not see that happening.
As “A Physicist” demonstrates here, they are quite irrational and egotistical, and it s quite impossible to engage them in rational debate that has any directly fruitful outcome. They seem as though they are in the grop of a collective psychosis.Perhaps there will be hope when the last Boomer in in the ground, but will there be anything left to save at that point?
Obama and Co. are so outrageous–it s hard to imagine a clearer articulation of what these people are about–and yet I do not see mass demonstrations across the nation. I fear that the electorate has been to degraded at this point: this madness may well be a permanent condition
Politics aside, todays’ Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis shows melting on-pace to set new records.
Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis
URL: http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
Mother Nature is sending us a message loud-and-clear: “You folks are heating up your planet, and you will *not* like the results.”
Back in the 1950s, conservatism adapted to the scientific reality that smoking cigarettes causes lung cancer … it took awhile … there was a lot of screaming and cherry-picking denialism … the process was slow and painful … but conservatives finally accepted that the science was right.
Now its time for conservatism to adapt to today’s triple reality that burning carbon (1) degrades the planet, (2) enriches our enemies, and (3) bankrupts our nation.
You and your activist friends do one thing and one thing only. You constantly throw facts and data around and NEVER come up with any solutions to anything. And the few solutions I ever hear from you fear mongers are so inept they are not worth discussing.
And with that I for one have no intention of responding to your closed and tiny mind again anytime soon.
Good witch hunt to ya.
That attitude is like shopping for a doctor who will tell you that smoking is harmless.
Back in the 1950s, conservatives shopped for doctors like that … and found them too.
It wasn’t a good idea then, and it’s not a good idea now.
MORE DOCTORS SMOKE CAMELS THAN ANY OTHER CIGARETTE
URL:” http://blog.timesunion.com/mdtobe/files/2010/10/smoking.jpg
In your attempt to draw a correlation between cigarette smoking, conservative beliefs and denial of AGW you literally soiled yourself. You drone on incessantly about using facts and the scientific method in a (vain) attempt to buttress your arguments but then you toss out these stupid comparisons that are completely untethered to anything remotely provable or logical. On what historical, factual basis can you claim that conservatives of the 1950′s by and large “denied the dangers of cigarette smoking” and furthermore, sought out “doctors that would tell them it was harmless?”
I come from a family of conservative Republicans who never smoked. Even though they didn’t, they also did not whine about and nag people who did as they figured it one’s personal choice (unlike the current breed of contemptible nanny-state liberals who tend to do just that). The only relatives I had who did smoke happened to be lifelong Democrats. What does that prove? Not a darn thing, as it’s mere anecdote.
You and your activist friends do one thing and one thing only. You constantly throw your sketchy onesided facts and data around and NEVER come up with any solutions to anything. And the few solutions I ever hear from you fear mongers are so inept they are not worth discussing. “stop burning carbon”…..Great, let’s do that. That’s a great solution, thanks. I’ll get right on that.
And with that I have no intention of responding to your closed and tiny mind again.
Good witch hunt to ya.
A Physicist, you are a case in point
You reaction is hardly “scientific”. Statements such as “Mother Nature is sending us a message loud-and-clear: “You folks are heating up your planet, and you will *not* like the results.” ” are absurd coming from “A Physicist”. This is just pure left-wing propaganda and of the most sophomoric, PC sort. No competent scientist would imagine that there is such a thing as “mother nature” or that “she” could “send us a message”. No scientist would assume that there s somehow a “moral balance” to nature” that somehow man has “sinned” against.
Why do you not also weigh in with very real fact the fraudulent manipulation of data and models out of so0-called “climate scientist”? Why do you use “science” to engage arguments that rely on the fallacy of arguing “from authority”? Hanson over at ASA has been shown not only to be of dubious honor but to be a shrill ideologue. You are not engaging in “Science”, you are engaging in politics. Your evasion of this by saying “Politics aside” is the sign of profound intellectual dishonesty and narcissistic denial.
You are irrational, egotistical and seemingly incapable of engaging in either real science or fruitful debate. That is just my point.
If you are in fact a scientist, please give us your name, your degree of study, the institutions where you studied and your body of research work. Otherwise we have no reason to believe that you are anything other than a plant and not “a physicist”. If you are going to speak as “a scientist” please actually do do so.
Please show us the science behind so-called “climate science:, for so far we have not see much in the way of real science out of climate scientists. We have seen the manipulation of data and statistics in support of a political agenda. We have seen these “scientists” resisting simple access to their data sets or their “models”, and when the code for these models has been reviewed in the public area, grave problems have been found with them. We have no reasonable “theory” out of them, no real empiricism, no real way to falsify their claims. When any of this is brought up, the “climate scientist” resort of slander, ridicule and libel, and rely on the left wing propaganda establishment to silence reasonable voices. As a physicist you should be deeply aware of this. If a physicist stood up before colleagues with this sort of shoddy work they would be laughed off the podium.
You cite some localized data when we full well know that the longer term data fro the decade shows no change at all. That NASA article is really a political polemic; it has already reached conclusions and is cherry picking in order to support its foredrawn conclusions. THIS IS FEAR MONGERING AND NOT SCIENCE.
Personally, I really doubt that you are “A Physicist” at all. You do not act like one. You act like a Moby out to spread disinformation.
Above and beyond that, when a decade passes and we see that nothing happens, will you then recant? Of course not. You will have moved on to the next con game.
Unwittingly, you demonstrate just what I am talking about.
I suggest we ignore ‘a physicist’ who is most certainly not a physicist (I note he has written nothing that suggests any expertise in that field) nor a scientist (same reason) but a utopian cultist of AGW.
How anyone who professes to support science would:
- offer ‘universalism’ as a scientific proof ignoring both that such consensus doesn’t exist and that such is non-scientific;
- offer short-term anecdotal experiences as evidence of a deep infrastructural change;
- offer short-term phenomena as evidence of a deep infrastructural change
- offer one cause of such change without any evidence of such causality
well..that just shows that ‘a physicist’ is a fraud and an AGW troll.
However, the concept of utopianism IS relevent to VDH’s post, for the desire of so many Americans for utopia seems to underpin many of their choices. Certainly the election of a blank-slate president with no background, qualifications or history of accomplishments – and based only on rhetorical messianic promises that ‘the oceans would cease to rise and peace would reign’..is utopian.
Rather than admitting the reality of existence, which is material adaptation in a step-by-step manner, with absolutely no reality, ever, of perfection…because that is the nature of Nature…we moved into the Semantic Trap of Words. Words…just like the ‘a physicist’ whose self-definition, based only on that Word, incites us to actually believe he IS a scientist when, if we actually read what he says…he is not a scientist. It is the same with our economic and political situation – we’ve moved into the realm of a false reality, for it is based only on words.
Words – that tell us that we can own a home without paying for it.
Words – that we can have schools, roads, hospitals etc..without paying for it.
Words – that all we need to do is ‘tax the rich’..who are imagined as some huge infinite well-of-wealth…and everything will be fine.
Words – that Islamic terrorism doesn’t exist; it’s all due to ‘man-caused disasters’.
Words – that illegal ‘immigrants’ have the right to move here without due process because centuries ago – they (?) ‘owned’ the land (?)
Words – that a millionaire isn’t defined as an income with 7 digits but only 6, i.e., 200,000, which is ONE-FIFTH of a million, is defined as a ‘millionaire’;
Words – that investment is irrelevant; wealth production must not be used for investment but consumed, and any wealth must be taken from the worker and redistributed to others…
Words – that Big Government, Big Unions, Big Control…is utopia, while free individualism, small business enterprises…are not.
Words. That’s the leftist tactic to utopia. The problem is, words are just words. And utopia means u-tope or ‘no place’. It doesn’t exist. It’s time to return to reality.
History will remember BHO as THE WTF President. And this period (people of these years) as the WTF voters/generation.
Doesn’t matter you are not part of the Obamabots, simply put ‘He WON’.
Excellent, as usual!
Ugh, the hopelessness! It’s all so very awful. Can the processes of American conversion to a sort-of Europe be stopped? So much of the population seems to want this very development, and if enough people want something, they’re likely to get it.
The sense that capitalism itself is an evil that must be overthrown has gone totally mainstream, and it’s depressing to contemplate where it will lead.
Can’t disagree at all. I would also include the Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger debacle at the State level as an example of exactly the same sort of lunacy during the nearly the same time frame. Both he and Obama tend to make one lose all faith in our government.
The hike sounds wonderful. VDH’s clarity of thought and the rarified high country air.
You PJM people are not giving “A Physicist” his due. Dutifully following the scientific method, he has clearly stated that the Boone and Crocket Club supports his position. What more do you peons need?
Have you forgotten that when Isaac Newton formulated his theory of gravitation, there was some skepticism from the scientific community, until Newton shrewdly secured the endorsement of the British Olympic Weightlifting Team? After all, who knows more about the force of gravity than champion weightlifters?
And of course, Albert Einstein was having trouble selling his theory of relativity, until his mother-in-law, a trusted relative, gave it her imprimatur.
Finally, it is a matter of historical record that Charles Darwin, faced with extreme resistance from conservative reactionaries, won the day by securing a statement from none other than Nim Chimpsky, the famously articulate anthropoid, to the effect that, although Darwin was not a direct descendant of his, still, Darwin came from good anthropoid stock, and thus could be relied upon in matters genealogical.
In future, I suggest that you wingnut ignoramuses study Science, and History, and the History of Science, before attempting to debate “A Physicist.”
lol !
Centrist-style Eisenhower-liking math-and-science-respecting conservatism is receiving a more favorable reception on this PJM/Tatler discussion:
The Unbearable Smugness of Liberals: A Guide for the Perplexed
URL: http://pajamasmedia.com/comment/1141933/
The only reasonable thing to do is to commission Mel Brooks to make his long awaited “History of the World Part 2″ using VDS’s recapitulation of the zany goings on from 2004-2010. But alas no one would believe such silly and obvious fictions, though all have all witnessed it and most judge it standard operating procedure.
Hanson writes like a cross between Aristophanes and Mark Twain.
Historians love to characterize different periods in human history in terms of “Ages”. There is the Bronze Age, the Iron Age, the Dark Ages, etc – all clearly identifiable significant periods in the time line.
In the future, when historians look back on this period in human history (assuming there will be a future to look back from – but that is a different topic), they will label the time we live in as “The Age of Idiocy” – the time when the collective human intelligence and its application to solving problems of human existence declined to levels not seen since some centuries before.
It remains to be seen whether humanity will survive this phenomenon.
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