The Fannie and Freddie University
Careers were destroyed by charges of “racism,” “sexism,” or “homophobia,” rarely through smearing a Mormon in class, or skipping a week of instruction to junket at a conference. All of the above is well-known, as hundreds of exposes in the last thirty years have explained to us quite well why college graduates are both so politicized and so lacking in knowledge and the inductive method. We see them screaming in videos at Occupy Wall Street demonstrations — full of self-pity it is true, but also in a sense worthy of pity as well. Nothing is worse than to be broke, unemployed, and conned.
Money is the Game Changer
There is a new element in the equation. Debt. Almost every year, tuition climbed at a rate higher than inflation. It had to. Higher paid faculty taught fewer classes. “Centers,” run by professors who did not teach and full of new staff, addressed everything from declining literacy to supposedly illiberal epidemics of meanness. Somewhere around 1980, the university was no longer a place to learn, but a sort of surrogate parent, eagerly taking on the responsibility of ensuring that students were happy, fit, right thinking, and committed. That required everything from state-of-the-art gyms replete with climbing walls, to grief counselors, to lecture series and symposia on global warming and the West Bank. All that was costly.
To pay for it, the federal government guaranteed student loans and the university charged what they wished — with the hook that the interest need not be paid until after graduation. For an 18-year-old, taking on debt was easy, paying it back something to be dealt with in the distant future — especially when the university promised higher-paying jobs and faculty reminded college students that their newly acquired correct-thinking was in itself worth the cost of education. There was little competition. Trade schools were still looked down upon, and online instruction was in its infancy.
The result, as we now know, was a huge debt bubble, one of nearly $1 trillion in aggregate borrowing that rivaled the Freddie and Fannie frauds. And yet the debt no longer comes with guarantees that the liberal arts and social science graduate will find employment, either of the sort that he was trained for, or necessarily more remunerative than the federal clerk or the union tile setter. Starbucks from 7-7 each day will not pay off that Environmental Studies degree from UC Irvine.
As the economy cooled, cash-strapped parents increasingly had little money to ease the mounting burdens. What was once a rare $10,000 student loan became a commonplace $50,000 and more in debt. Living at home until one’s late twenties is in part explicable to the mounting cost of college and the accompanying dismal job market — and the admission that many college degrees are no proof of reading, writing, or thinking skills. (Note as well that the themes and ethos of the university were not “life is short, get on with it”, but rather population control, abortion, careerism, metrosexism, etc. that contributed to the notion that one’s 20s and even 30s were for fun and exploring alternatives, but most certainly not to marry, have children, get a job, buy a house, and run the rat race.)
I noticed about 1990 that some students in my classes at CSU were both clearly illiterate and yet beneficiaries of lots of federal cash, loans, and university support to ensure their graduation. And when one had to flunk them, an entire apparatus was in place at the university to see that they in fact did not flunk. Just as coaches steered jocks to the right courses, so too counselors did the same with those poorly prepared but on fat federal grants and loans. By the millennium, faculty were conscious that the university was a sort of farm and the students the paying crop that had to be cultivated if it were to make it all the way to harvest and sale — and thus pay for the farmers’ livelihood.
How could a Ponzi scheme of such magnitude go on this long?
Lots of reasons. The university was deeply embedded with a faux-morality and a supposed disdain for lucre. “College” or “university” was sort of like “green” — an ethical veneer for almost anything imaginable without audit or examination (Whether a Joe Paterno-like exemption or something akin to Climategate or the local CSU campus where the student body president recently boasted that he was an illegal alien and dared authorities to act — to near unanimous support from the university.) Since World War II, a college degree was rightly seen as the key to middle class upward mobility. That belief was enshrined, and so we forgot to ask whether everyone was suited for college, or whether the college educated per se were always more important to the economy than the self-, union-, or trade-schooled welder, concrete finisher, or electrician.







VDH:
You missed one very important fact: student loan debt is NOT dischargable in bankruptcy.
BHO’s advisers, being the Ivy League sharpies, may have fixed that by the new rules the President has proclaimed about limiting the number of years and amount of payment each student debtor has to payback.
So we have a huge subsidy that has only gotten worse.
Note the concerns here expressed are about an institution – the “educational system.”
Concerns are expressed about the deficiencies, needed reforms, operational effects of what has become an institution.
The institution we have today evolved from what was originally a social or “civil” (non-governmental) instrument to provide access for the young of various communities to certain levels of education. Those instruments expanded to bring advanced education, largely through private funding in colleges and academies. The instruments also expanded their service objects to a broader base, ” the public” of a particular area or social (intelligence) segment; all while still preserving its civil character.
Coinciding with accelerating urbanizations, transitions began with needs for capital expenditures (principally buildings); the establishment of “Districts,” and the ultimate co-option into governmental functions and political determinations.
Those instruments became institutions within which the interests of those who previously served the functions of the instruments have come to dominate the functions and objectives of the institution.
The resulting conditions and operations of this institution, which has now become systematized (the Education Systems) far afield from the limited objectives of the social instruments that spawned it, have led to reactions, movements for reform, and most importantly and most effectively – circumvention.
Those processes have begun at the areas of secondary education and will now begin (for economic reasons) to flow over into post-secondary education, especially where governmental co-option has been most intrusive and displacing of the original objectives.
The circumventions will generate new civil instruments, which in their turn will evolve institutions which will compete with the residue of the “Educational Systems” of today.
We might profit our nation and all our social organizations if we concentrate on developing the new instruments and accelerating circumvention of a now decrepit, status quo institution, rather than its partial or piece-meal reform.
Mr. Schweitzer, you should have led with your last sentence. Yes, we need new instruments, for the establishment in education is entrenched and has been so since the First World War (the 60s only exacerbated what was already in place among gentlemanly theorists, experts in co-opting and defusing dissent). But innovations in education are taking place within the Democratic Party, and will be limited without an offensive to teach reading propaganda and decoding it. I tried to write about that here, as I reviewed the virtues and limitations of Terry Moe’s new book: http://clarespark.com/2011/10/09/vox-populi-vox-big-brother/.
History is the mirror of the present. It is always changing. Which is why it is impossible for the state to learn from past mistakes and triumphs. The liberals arts we knew have been replaced with a new set that is more fashionable.
In the last few Chronicles of Higher Education I’ve read, the “for-profit” schools are getting a lambasting. Accreditation received a fascinating series of put-downs, as well. Articles about tenure track, hiring, two year colleges and so on all continually reinforce the concept of relentless conformity and labor.
Let’s not even discuss what I read in The Chronicle Review. The worldview is so far skewed from the reality I inhabit that it begins to frighten me.
Is there any saving higher education? The more I read, the less hope I have.
Would you not agree, that true “Higher” education can fend for itself?
Generally, I would agree, yes. Where it starts getting dicey is when we bring in the questions of scholarships and so on, right up to endowed chairs and fellowships.
Though most endowed chairs start with a contribution from someone or a foundation.
I graduated college (a major state university) almost 40 yrs ago with a math degree. I was able to pay my tuition working summers and part-time jobs and started my adult life without a cent of debt. Not only had I felt I learned something, but as it turns out my head was NOT filled with a whole bunch of junk that wasn’t so.
I really feel sorry for today’s college graduates. It’s almost like a novelty item: “$50,000 in debt and all I got is a worthless degree and this lousy T-shirt.” The sad part is it’s not a joke. It’s a terrible scandal, one on the level with the debt crisis. These people have been conned, spending thousands in unforgivable debt on a worthless product. They have been terribly, terribly taken advantage of by “educators” they trusted.
Sorry Buck – I don’t agree.
Nobody told me what to study in college. But I started preparing for it in the 5th grade. Yes, really. I made sure that I wouldn’t embarass my parents or my extended family, who were all hoping that I would do well in school and encouraging me to do so, and I hit the books with a feverish intensity. I never shied away from the tough subjects – math and science. I loved history and literature, but never backed off the hard stuff, because I wanted to see how far I could push myself. So college was partial differential equations, newtonian mechanics, electromagnetism, solid state physics, basic and organic chemistry, analog and digital electronics, signal processing, thermodynamics, control theory and all sorts of other stuff that keeps a soul up looooooong into the night, all week long and over the weekend, wrestling with the abstract like Heracles with Hades. (I make this claim not out of arrogance and ego, but pride in the struggle and the achievement.)
You have to have pride in yourself and a sense of personal responsibility in order to do well in school and choose subjects that will get you a job when you graduate. As I said before, I have a love for history and literature (especially that of the ancient world), and a great respect for Art and teh humanities in general. However: the overwhelming majority of those who take liberal arts degrees do so because they flatter themselves that they have a Picasso, Rembrandt, Hemingway or Frost buried in them that they are trying to ‘find’, but in reality are simply trying to take the easy way out – they pursue something which won’t challenge their assumed self worth, and then armed with their BA in 10th century irish limericks or the Theory and Practice of Post-Modern Fingerpainting, they have the gall to assume they’ve earned the RIGHT to DEMAND a job that pays well enough for them to own 2 cars (traded in for new ones every 2-3 years), a 2500 square foot home in a ‘good’ neighborhood, and all the gadgets and material wealth their heart desires.
This is simple fact. Since the 60′s, we’ve raised 2 generations of adult children.
Nobody told me what to study in college. But I started preparing for it in the 5th grade.
You’re one in a million then.
Most kids are pushed to college by society (their parents, counselors and the zeitgeist the are immersed in)whether they are intellectually suited for higher education or not and with idiotic nostrums like “follow your dreams”. Colleges and Universities then complete the confidence game with manufactured statistics about the great employment prospects for graduates of their gender studies or puppetry programs.
Good, functional societies have always provided models for young people because the ten year old who takes it into his head to prep for college is exceptionally rare. We have failed as a culture when we do not present to our youth a reasonable track toward self sufficient adulthood, marriage and childbearing. This isn’t something for the government to do. It’s the role of families, communities and churches to do, and by and large they all don’t. Youth need responsible adults to guide them, because they ARE young and foolish and often forget that.
Instead, adults encourage their kids to study what they love, get to really know someone by living with them before marriage and a whole bunch of other bad ideas.
Like Buck and others I also graduated in the middle ’90′s with an undergraduate degree and zero debt due to a tour in the Marine Corps in the late 70′s. Before I entered college, I had married and served an apprenticeship in the printing trades. I worked full time and attended full time. Unlike most, however, my degree was in painting, a Bachelor’s of Fine Arts. Can’t get any more basketweavy than that. . . I continued working in the graphic arts until my children graduated high school. In the meantime I also finished the coursework for a BS in Philosophy. Thus armed, I enrolled in a Graduate program in the fine arts, and now teach those appreciation and art history survey courses at a small southeastern US college. In this capacity I also act as student advisor. My advice to many students who clearly confused about the purpose of a liberal arts degree is PLC’s. Programmable Logic Controllers. The local tech school has a one year certificate with a 100% placement rate. Make no mistake, I stand with Dr. Hanson about the absolute necessity of the liberal arts and liberal arts degrees. But progressive academics have destroyed the meaning and content of those degrees in most public colleges and universities. That doesn’t mean liberal arts degrees from the right places are worthless. In fact, I celebrate the mind that sees what the liberal arts are actually about. With the hard sciences, we create powerful people. The liberal arts/humanities are essentially a mediated dialogue about the nature of good. A powerful person who doesn’t know anything about good is dangerous. An education without the humanities creates monsters. But contemporary academics have perverted the humanities by removing the term good from the dialogue. No wonder people are leaving the humanities in droves. Students may not know why in their forebrains, but they’re not stupid.
The solution? Re-take the high ground and re-create the humanities as they are intended. A mediated exploration of the nature of human good with the understanding that the American individual has the power and the obligation to make good choices in a spirit of enlightened self-interest, a hallmark of the classical liberal. We need to get that back.
Meg, you hit the nail on the head.
Growing up back east, I went to grade school, junior high and high school with quite a few kids who had either parents or grandparents that were immigrants. The message to all of us was the same – work hard in school so you can better yourself. Some went for trades; some went into the military. But school was still at least a semi-serious thing, and just about every single one of us knew we had to prepare ourselves for the working world. Between our families, church and schoolteachers & administators, we were inculcated with the principle to take life seriously and not expect things to be given to us by ‘right.’
For those who pursue humanities with a genuine interest, I respect them – provided they accept the fact that they are very likely to encounter limitations on their earnings potential once they finish.
Problem is, not even the STEM students have good job prospects these days. Our economy has been hollowed out, so that everything possible is being outsourced.
There is much truth to this, 1389.
Silicon Valley seems to be truly dying. Manufacturing left in a big way in the late 80′s and early 90′s. Now, even design engineering and marketing are leaving – mostly for India, a little for China.
There’s a reason why the leading Repubs speak of an energy-based revival of the economy from the shale oil and natural gas in the dakotas and utah – those in power are clue’d in to the fact that we are so utterly hollowed out that we are going to have to go back to a resources-exporting economy – along with the third world level of poverty that entails.
Get ready to have your quality of life dialed back 75-100 years, folks. Look on the bright side: we’ll all be so concerned about saving costs in order to afford food that everyone will lose 30% of their body weight, so we’ll all be skinny again……..
“Money is the game changer.” That sums it up.
Like Buck, above, I graduated from college and grad school with zero debt. I worked, saved and did without to make that happen. It’s still possible today, but too few students take time to crank the numbers and figure out what it means to graduate so deeply in debt. Too many others are simply interested in extending their already extended childhood dependencies.
To me, college was a privilege, not a right. That distinction seems gone today.
I took numerous continuing ed. courses during the early 80s at a good university, and what debt I did incur was modest and paid off quickly. In the mid-90s I also took courses at a top-tier, non-ivy league school, and the debt versus income ratio had radically changed. So this is where it seems to have changed for the worse, between these two times.
Perhaps a student (today) could work and pay his or her way through school and graduate with no debt. but with the continually rising cost of tuition (as Prof. Hanson enumerates), isn’t this all very self-fulfilling? For the university in particular? The tenured poobahs secure gargantuan and over-paid salaries, much like sports or show business types, and the student confronts an awesome cost and is lured into the procrastination of putting off that cost tol later with a student loan? Doesn’t his or her “qualifying” for that loan constitute the key means to perpetuating that bubble?
The government acts as a “co-signer” to “guarantee” the students debt, but with no intention of paying it back if the student doesn’t or won’t.
It is indeed the way the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac loans were structured. wonder where the next ‘bailout’ will occur…
I’m sure the government will try to sell it by saying their “new” methods will “control costs”.
Meanwhile the part-time faculty are strung along like neiman/marcus employees with the inference that they will never be a part of the glamour of the ones at the top.
Between the real rigor of the hard sciences and the pseudo-science/corruption of the humanities lies the voodoo of todays medicine. they will get to us through brainwashing or foul chemicals. Or Both
I graduated over 40 years ago. Every day I feel enormous gratitude for the opportunity I had and the benefits I have enjoyed thanks to the university I attended and especially, of course, to those dedicated teachers who made such a difference in my life.
And quite often I feel so sorry for the kids today who missed that opportunity. To think about the fact that they were taken advantage of is almost too painful.
There’s nothing they can’t ruin. But somehow, they all seem to become quite prosperous while doing it.
Why, if you didn’t know better, since they reassure us of their honorable intenitions incessantly, you might say it’s almost like it’s deliberate.
A wonderfully honest appreciation of the State University systems corruption. Thank you!!!
Yup. Just take a hard look at three huge sectors of our economy where the government has become more activist and assumed the role of guarantor and sugar daddy:
- Home mortgages
- Health care
- Education
See any similarity in outcomes?
Great observation. I would add domestic energy production — the non-approval thereof.
Having been associated with universities (both as student and employee) off and on for forty years, I know that your description of what happened to higher education since the sixties is accurate.
In my last thirteen years of employment at a state university, I observed the determined effort to recruit large numbers of students from inner city schools that could not teach them to read adequately or do simple math. They were funneled into remedial classes, and by their second quarter, were mostly dropping out, probably convinced of their own failure and/or a white conspiracy against black students (as most of them were black). It’s only when administrators began to realize that failure rates made the university look worse than recruitment numbers of minority students that the remedial classes were largely done away with. In the case of minorities, it’s the elementary education that has failed them, and university education programs are largely responsible for that, because of their insistence on political correctness and victimology, instead of common sense pedagogy.
Forgive me for looking forward to the coming education bubble burst (disclaimer, now that I am safely out of it), as I believe this is the only way higher education will be able to sweep out the deadwood and get back to its original mission. A university education is not for everyone, and we ought to be giving far more respect to people who do their best work using their bodies and minds, instead of an abstract intellect.
Wow, that was pretty impressive: the introduction of the negative intellectual space and disdain of the positive – Eurocentrism turned on its head.
To take note of the underdog, the ignored, is one thing but to start celebrating such things as if they are some kind of end in themselves is plain stupid.
That’s right folks, it’s the old Critical Pedagogy, the most influential and least known artifact to pollute American critical though in the last half century.
Ironically only winners can play at having a conspicuous disdain for success and so our citizens in their millions have turned to spitting at the atomic bomb that saved an estimated 2 million American casualties and battles without a Marxist social dimension to them as too “obvious” and crude to merit study.
God help us when it comes to learning about an oblique attack when we can worry about whether the regiment has the proper diversity first.
The sad thing is that the -isms are self- limiting. I’ve read most of the -ism books. I’ve taken classes where, for war, we are supposed to go find stories about soldiers with PTSD, or atrocities. But if you research for your paper- five cites necessary- you run up against responsible, intelligent men prosecuting a complex, morally worthwhile maneuver to the best of their ability. And the regular soldiers have a terrific sense of humor. I did. And I made an F. I quoted the general staff action report, the after war report, and reporters embedded in Iraq. I was trying to get an A. And the generals, commanders, captains, lieutenants, and regular soldiers sounded terrific. What they said made sense. What the professor said did not.
It works like that for femininist stuff, too. Reading what women were up to? And the supposed best times? And then checking actual history- to get that A, again? the theory did not match the documented evidence at all. Even the 1950′s, with it’s supposed sins– 3% unemployment, and big, billowing intricate dresses- that looks like prosperity. Plus, women’s diaries? and private letters? ( Gotta get that A)! do not match Betty Friedan’s assertions, at all. The women were working like crazy at home. They didn’t have time to be bored. And they completely adored their physically fit ( former soldier) handsome, young ( in their twenties) honorable husbands. They loved their mothers who had survived the depression by being resourceful, and they wanted to live up to that heroism. That’s what the source letters say.
Or Alice Walker. Resistance is the secret of joy? What about running things? That’s way better. that’s not even on the plate. That’s really messed up- being the permanent opposition is not the best thing ever. And that oppression is the beginning, middle and end of everything. Hellooo- greater minds have worked on this problem….just saying……
or, jane addams is terrific……she was a frighteningly predatorial woman in her private life. If she were doing anything other than running a church without god, without any structure at all, she’d be a scandal.
It’s self-limiting. It’s built on some terrible lies, built by bad people- bad of character, sucky in daily life- we wouldn’t tolerate them amongst our friends- and when you look for research, outside that little bubble- the true strangeness of the good guys really overwhelms you.
I think Eisenhower is one of the strangest, most towering men I’ve ever read about. I was looking for something about the shoah. At one concentration camp- after conquering the town- he made the citizens walk in procession through the camp- in a religious procession- with their church hardware- through the camp, and then pray for repentance. The pictures of that are some of the strangest photos I have ever seen. We’ve grown used to the time/life recycled 100 top- the guy getting shot, the running child, celebrities…seeing goodness, in 1940′s garb in black and white, and it’s not a spielberg movie- doing something new and unknown- that they really did—it’s Twilight-Zone- ish. It makes one curious about what else really happened.
Why bother with that nonsense? I satisfied my humanities and social sciences requirement with economics, world religions and a course on early Christianity. Far less political.
Oh, clever you. The english requirement was exactly that: a requirement. The women’s studies stuff came up in economics. The Jane Addams stuff came up b/c I was having a very long- running argument with Democrat Dad. He thought I ought to be a social worker. I was given literally every single biography of Jane Addams ever written. Two copies of Germinal, the movie. One biography of John Reed, and an annotated 10 Days that Shook the World,- and the movie-twice- a copy of Louise Bryant’s biography ( jr’s wife- and mr bullett, the american ambassador to the ussr) a copy of Bohemians, various books about notable women, and a copy of The New Our Bodies, Ourselves, as a first sex ed book. I’m not from the right-wing.
Ya’ll get excited about ” raised right” and how essential that is? It’s not. Ill defer to Bill Whittle, Mr Klavan, Mr Simon, and Mr Radosh. They weren’t raised right-wing either. I’m glad you’re all happy about how you raised your kids, but please be aware- left-wing parents raise their children as left as possible as well.
That’s why I know it’s self- limiting. It’s what I grew up on. You can’t read NOBO, without being entirely revolted by tertiary stages of venereal diseases, before even kissing a boy. The stages of pregnancy? Well, it’s hard to argue in favor of abortion, when you know what the stages are. The Bohemians? I don’t tolerate skanky girlfriends, I don’t see why I have to tolerate skanky Margaret Sanger behavior.
I grew up reading about sexually transgressive female performance artists. Eventually you notice- they don’t have good lives. Or you go meet your heroes- and they are frighteningly arid, self-centered, even evil people. One goofy Catholic priest blows them away, in the middle of a very boring Wednesday simple mass. And I’m not Catholic.
oh- every last single rick bragg book. Can poor people afford verbs? A biography of Molly Ivins. Freakishly self-righteous drunk. I had no idea. Every last single book by Studs Terkel. Oh- all the Barbare Ehrenreich books. Every last one. some multiple copies.
that’s my starting line. It’s actually kind of irritating, when I was taking classes- I had read more than some of the junior profs, or I was on social terms with some of the people they were assigning papers on. One was asking for a theme- I knew the writer- his kid was trying to bite mine- and I wrote the theme he saw, and was told ” NO IT’S NOT.” Sha- ah, as clueless herself would say.
My kids are in a stable, safe environment, involved in their church, involved in sports, they bring home nice kids, the parents are nice, my husband loves me, we look forward to a faithful life together, my husband works hard…. you have literally no idea how deeply strange this is to me. It’s why I spend time reading about it.
It’s why PJM is interesting- the founders are not “raised right”- they have to think and test and struggle and talk and write. It’s not a finished product- it’s an enlightenment by group practice and dialogue, basically.
My apologies, but for the rest of the readers, the point stands: to avoid nonsense from your professors, knock out your distribution requirements with AP classes and religion courses. The economics AP exams are easy enough to study for, even without taking the associated course. Most leftists aren’t interested in teaching a class where one of the main textbooks is the Bible, either.
so the solution is to avoid the class, and just take a test for the grade?
That’s really so not encouraging. At a major university one ought to be taking the class from the professor who wrote the textbook. It’s what you’re paying for. Even at a competitive community college- the profs ought to be writing textbooks. And, well, the writers of the textbooks have all the parts that didn’t make it into the book.
Why not just shell out for a good fake piece of paper?
All you have to do is go to, say, Politico, and read the comments to see what they’ve done. They’ve made leftist and intellectual into synonyms. It is the constant chant from the lefties that conservatives are anywhere from anti-intellectual to outright stupid. The liberal arts graduate knows leftist cant and little else, but s/he knows that s/he is a “smart” person because s/he knows lefist cant. In the last decade or so of my career I found that I had to recruit young law school grads to be able to buy the ability to reliable write an English sentence and even they were historical and cultural illiterates unless you consider contemporary movies, music, and sports to be culture.
Where this becomes more than just an irritant is in the over-credentialing of the workplace, especially the government workplace where the minimum qualification for many technical, administrative, and supervisory jobs is “a degree.” Here is where the illiterate with a degree in Angry People Studies can get and keep a decent paying job and, what’s worse, hire more people like him/herself, these days more likely herself. The federal government is perhaps the worst; they practically require a Doctorate to get a clerk job – unless you’re promoting from within or fit the right block on the Affirmative Action form. The primary thing the “any degree” qualification does is guarantee a particular ideological bent in the workforce, and this is not a good thing. It has also increasingly made government into a matriarchy. Suffice it to say that many young college educated womyn are VERY difficult for a man to work for or with.
Not just men, Art! That kind of “education” creates a nightmare co-worker, subordinate, or boss.
Using the definition from the left, government is the largest predatory lender on the planet.
You missed another important factor. Griggs vs Duke Power killed aptitude tests and made “degree required” the substitute. When you suddenly need degrees for more good jobs, what incentives do the universities have to keep them affordable?
I won’t go so far as to say Griggs killed testing, but it did make testing more expensive and subject to litigation, see, e.g., the recent USSC case on police or fire testing. What really killed testing other than the expense component is the fact that governments and large corps are so litigation averse and HR heads are usually weenies.
Actually, were I a young man without a degree, I’d go apply for some entry level technical job with a “degree” as the MQ and preferably an experience substitution because most employers have that to allow internal promotion. I would then sue them for disqualifying me on the basis that a general degree did not have any demonstrated business utility for the job and since white males are now much less likely to have degrees, the requirement constituted an artificial barrier based on gender. I think you’d have to go to the SC, but you’d win and upset a lot of applecarts.
You have FAR too much faith in the judicial system.
Don’t think so. Other than the far lefties, wise Latinas, the USSC figured out by the ’90s that discrimination law had gone nuts and was crippling the Country. They pretty much killed the lucrative “disparate impact” scam by requiring a demonstraton of actual harm. It would have to be done right, and Comrade Obama can’t appoint any more communists, but with the current compostion of the Court, properly argued, you’d win, or at least I’d win.
Have people forgotten that once they learn the basics, they can teach themselves via reading, studying, learning, training, experience on their own? Sure, you won’t get a fancy degree but if you can do something and do it well, who really cares?
Also, does everyone feel the need to strive to be ‘wealthy’? How about just ‘comfortable’? I’d certainly settle for ‘comfy’ rather than thinking I should be fetched by limos to the supermarket each day and wearing 5,000.00 dresses and half-a-mil jewelry to flash to everyone that I’m indeed ‘rich’.
What is wrong with making an honest living in a humble job?
Money is debt. We are ALL in debt.
Welcome to the NEW America.
there’s a big difference between humble jobs and filthy rich. The entire middle- class, for instance. Nobody is all for downward mobility. Eamon de Valera is the last one, that I can remember, and he shanked Ireland for a generation.
If you consider “downward mobility” to be synonymous with self-governance and economic self-sufficiency, then yes, De Valera was all about that. Even if you mean what I think you mean, then surely you must acknowledge that the Khmer Rouge post-dated the bould Eamon?
I think the best one liner describing BA’s and student debt was no wonder these people are angry, you would be to if you had just wasted 4 years of your life spent $50 grand and came out just as stupid as when you started.
even stupider than when you started.
Worse, being dumber while beleiving that they are the only informed and intelligent people in America, especially when compared the [OBVIOUSLY] moronic folks on the right hand side of the aisle.
Dr Hanson’s “insider” description of what has happened in higer education is fascinating. It’s exactly the picture I imagined while I was going to college as an Electrical Engineering major. I remember the liberal arts professors and their often open disdain for those of us majoring in the hard sciences and engineering. I went to an well-funded (by private industry) state school. Two experiences still stand out in my mind: I took a mandatory history 101 class, and the grumpy old hippie burnout prof stood up on the first day of class and openly declared that his objective for the semester was to turn us from thinking of ourselves as Americans. He told us we would have to start thinking of ourselves as “internationalists” or some such poppycock. That same semester I took an introductory circuit analysis class from a pre-eminent scientist in the field of laser research. He stood up on the first day of class and bore witness of the saving power of Jesus Christ and told us that if we wanted to know more, to get with him OUTSIDE OF CLASS – then proceeded to explode our brains with scientific analysis of simple electrical circuit behavior. That left me with no doubt I chose the right major. Heck, even if you’re not an evangelical, who wants to be brainwashed into believing the worst about the country you fought for?
Hey kids, if you’re going off to college next year here’s some free advice: If your major doesn’t require at least two semesters each of Calculus, Physics, and Chemistry, it’s too easy. You’re wasting your time and money.
I resent that remark! The Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences program at the University of Michigan only requires one semester of Chemistry (or AP credit for the same), and it is far from easy. Mind you, that has a lot to do with the five semesters of calculus, four semesters of physics (including two in the nuclear department), two semesters of programming (one in the nuclear department), and labs in circuitry, radiation detection and measurement, and the student’s choice of either reactors, plasma, health physics, or a composite lab course, as well as a senior design course to design either a reactor or a radiation shield. No second semester in chemistry required, though.
Yikes! I stand corrected. Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences is an exception I hadn’t considered.
Just a question..did Fannie and Freddie have a child named Sallie Mae?
If so, what does Sallie Mae do?
Answer:
Acorn Activist and part-time sheep-herder.
You’re welcome. :)
Just finished doing some more reading on John Boyd of OODA loop (and much else) fame. In reading an in-depth discussion of the “Orientation” loop within the larger loop, I thought about my own failure as a college freshman in the early 60s to be able to think at all clearly. In hindsight I can track that 1950s aimless, comfortable drifting. It literally took me years to get an appreciation of what I did not know (a project which continues to this day–but I like to think I do better at it now). But even in those early days higher education was already failing us; I was actually “searching for wisdom”, as corny as that sounds. The secret was that, like Oakland, CA–it wasn’t there in the first place. All that college money was down a rathole for practical purposes, and I certainly was NO wiser. The only thing I had, given to me by my Depression/Greatest Generation parents, was the mere beginnings of a BS detector. I should have paid more attention!
It took me another ten years after college to get my head on halfway straight. Getting drafted taught me more than college ever did. The best I can say is that I didn’t make any really felony stupid mistakes–just a lot of the speed bump variety. The best thing I ever did to survive was picking up a copy of Marcus Aurelius’ “Meditations”. It made sense and helped greatly–which was a lot more than any of my so-called “education” ever did.
I wonder if it’s too late to sue those august institutions for fraud?
Was that the biography entitled “Boyd.” That’s the book I read about him some years ago. He was one-of-a-kind. To those who are wondering, he was an Air Force fighter pilot, but the book did not focus on his Korean War experiences, it was more about what he did afterward, in getting his ideas adopted by the Air Force.
– advised to not let education interfere with your learning. Keep your library cards updated.
One of the saddest stories I saw on T.V. was a young couple with two little kids and crying because they had $250,000 in debt for college and no jobs to pay for it. I just couldn’t imagine taking on that much debt for college. Its more like the price of a house which you will spread the cost over 30 years. Who tells these people that this much debt is ever a good thing? It would have been better if the guy had taken an appreticeship and became a plumber. At least he wouldn’t have any debt when he got done.
Taking on a lot of debt to “pay” for college reminds me of indentured servitude. But in this case, you’re indentured to your university or worse the federal government for years.
Who tells these people that this much debt is ever a good thing?
Who told them? Start with K-12 teachers and guidance counselors who overly stressed the importance of a college education because that’s all they know. Also, look at their parents who told them that having a degree is automatically the ticket to a comfortable middle class life. Don’t forget the colleges who kept pushing student loans because letting foolish people keep their money is just wrong. Also, all of those people who talked about student loans being “good debt” when in fact it’s no such thing.
About the only “good debt” that exists is a short term loan that allows a business to take advantage of an opportunity to make more money. Just about all other debt is bad to one degree or another.
Mortgages are bad debt because you end up paying so much before the debt is retired. Mortgage interest is tax deductable but if you’re in the 30% bracket, you’d need to spend $10,000 in deductable expenses to lower your taxes by $3000. Better to pay off the mortgage as quickly as possible, pay the $3000 in higher taxes and keep the $7000 for yourself.
Student loans are really bad debt because you can’t get rid of them even via bankrupsy.
With regard to the mortgage, it really depends on the relative cost of buying vs. renting. With regard to paying off the mortgage early, you’re right that it’s probably the best INTERMEDIATE-RISK return you can get. Long term, stocks will generally yield more than the mortgage costs you, but they’re riskier. Conversely, paying down the mortgage carries substantial liquidity risk because no matter how much principle you pay down early, as long as you still owe a balance, you still have to make the minimum payment next month, so you don’t want to pay down the mortgage early unless you have a substantial emergency fund so you won’t lose the house if you lose your job.
I’m a 54 year old defense contractor, so job stability is very uncertain in this political and economic environment. We’ve already had several layoffs in my department and the parking lot is looking pretty empty. Being 100% debt free is very comforting in these uncertain times.
My wife and I have enough in our emergency fund to last for a few years if it comes to that (and I hope it doesn’t). We have a low 7 figure net worth as we’re on the home stretch towards retirement. While I’ve lost sleep over the job uncertainty, having a home that’s paid for (along with everything else) is more comforting than having a larger stock portfolio and watching its value rise and fall like a rollercoaster.
Might our net worth have been higher had we invested more and not paid off the house early? Perhaps, but the market risk was higher than we were willing to accept.
Yes, if you can pay off the mortgage in full, do it. My warning was for people who still have several years left on their mortgage, even with accelerated payments. Accelerating payments will save you a lot of money, provided you do pay off the mortgage. If, however, there is any doubt about your income in the near future, having an emergency fund takes priority over paying down the mortgage, because as long as you still have a balance on your mortgage, you MUST make the minimum payment each month, no matter how much principal you retired early. You will regret it if trying to pay down the mortgage early results in you losing the house.
Myth, something to keep in mind is that if one is paying down principal on an accelerated basis, so long as there’s substantial positive equity in the home relative to the appraised value then this equity can take on the role of emergency fund. In this situation it makes sense to take the certain path of paying down the mortgage and avoiding huge amounts of interest costs vs. putting cash aside.
An interesting suggestion I read recently is that colleges should be made to co-sign any student loans. That would force them to explain to prospective students that perhaps that gender-studies degree might not be worth borrowing $200,000 to obtain.
BINGO !!!!
Instead of forcing the taxpayers to co-sign the loan, the colleges themselves should take the risk. They are the ones claiming that their product is worth so much. Let them put THEIR money where their mouths and glossy brochures are.
Dr. Hanson is so right when he says that Higher education is desperately searching for students with cash, loaned or not. My daughter is a high school senior and it is unbelievable how many slick brochures and cards she receives from colleges. Even though her grades aren’t very good — because she doesn’t apply herself — I know that any of them would accept her because I can pay for it. Oh, and no one has mentioned how, even after graduation, the colleges still relentlessly hit you up for money as an alumini.
Easy credit is money crack. When you are struggling…”just one more hit” on the money pipe will “get you through”…but, it never does. Ever.
Unless you make a clean break.
I once read an article on the domestication of dogs. Basically it stated that we have bred them to be in “puppy-like” state all their lives. Their attitudes toward humans is not that of a normal adult canine.
Whether that theory holds an ounce of water or not (I know my Black lab can’t), it seems to have a corollary to American “purchasing on credit” from cradle to grave all manner of things we used to have to earn…or forego.
It seems we have bred Americans to be in puppy-like state when it comes to relationship to government’s easy credit and all the other kibbles and bits giveaways.
I worked my way through college and law school after my father died during mid-term exams my sophomore year in college. I worked in a restaurant because the hours fit flexibly into my schedule and I could get meals free…to save money.
I lived in a cheap apartment, drove a cheap car (when it ran) or took public transportation…or walked…often a few miles, and scrimped, saved, went on cheap dates, and lived days with very long hours and little in the way of “extras”.
Even then, I couldn’t do it all without “student loans” for tuition, borrowed books from upperclassmen who were related or friends and I came out with nothing left but debt and a degree.
I don’t know how long it would have taken me to pay it all back if I had not worked full time while going to school full time from my junior year in college through three years of law school. But starting out deep in the hole is a rough road to hoe.
“Going without” seems to be out of the question today. Or, at least it means something different than it once did.
There were no cell phones or email to stay in touch. When you are scrimping, it’s nice to be working and at the library…human contact was made with your head up…not down looking at a screen.
I don’t know which way is better, I only know that being deeply in debt is no way to get a good night’s rest. Europe is finding that out the hard way. America is about to learn that rough lesson as well, I’m afraid.
Socialism is the mother of insomnia. Small c communism is the added condition of sleep apnea.
They can sing all the leftist lullaby’s they want…we are about to have a generation of sleepless nights.
You mean another DARK AGE of “sleepless nights”, cfb — not just a generation.
You’ve used wonderful metaphors, and you’ve organized your arguments,in a way which compliments your education.
Self-supporting from the age of 14, I educated myself by reading the “Great Books” while working nights. That got me a small scholarship which, with lots more working, got me a degree which, with lots more working, got me several interesting careers.
I never thought of myself as disadvantaged, or having had a hard life, though I had tearfully frustrating periods when looking for work and finding none.
Now, in retrospect, having had a good life by simply making the effort to make a good life, I lack all sympathy for the spoiled and whiney and entitled brats that the last three generations of American institutions have produced.
And they are the rule, not the exception.
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Can someone explain just what liberal arts degrees were good for, in decades past?
Suppose a young person graduated in 1960 with a degree in History or English Literature. Who hired him? What kind of career opportunities did he have in the private sector?
I can’t imagine what a degree in History or English Literature could prepare you for in the private sector. I assumed that such folks would end up trying to become teachers or professors themselves.
Or today, they could end up in government.
A degree in History or English meant you were literate, numerate, grounded in the basics of Western Culture and acquainted with the canon. Therefore, you could probably think. So you were qualified for many different fields.
I ran into someone who got an English degree almost 50 years ago, and was asked was he going into teaching, or to law school. Instead, he went into banking, which led to a series of interesting projects.
It used to mean that you were a well-rounded, thinking individual. What it means these days, I am not entirely sure.
You’ve just made the typical progressive error.
History and Literature do not prepare you to think.
They give you a knowledge base.
Add Languages and you have some Epistemology which will help you to understand what knowledge is and how we know it. You still may not think well.
Mathematics and Science, even just plain Jesuit Logic teaches you to think.
Without them, you are a hard drive looking for a processor.
“How To Think 101″: What would that course outline look like?
Suppose a young person graduated in 1960 with a degree in History or English Literature
As a consulting engineer, I designed many sites for cellphone towers back in the early 90s. It was a mad race then between several would-be cellphone companies, and everyone knew that only a few would survive and engulf the others, so the pressure to produce efficiently was intense.
And the best superintendant of the company we worked for had just a BA – in English. He saw the whole picture, and was just a fine and competent field general.
I knew a philosophy graduate from Occidental who started his own company selling irrigation equipment.
You must not have read the beginning of the article.
“Higher learning in the arts and humanities has enriched American life for 200 years.”
At one time, more than half of all business general managers and CEOs had…wait for it…History degrees.
In interviews, they attributed their success to the fact that they’d been taught to find and anlyze information from multiple perspectives, avoid simplistic answers, examine details, step back and look at the big picture, piece together complex puzzles, project current “knowns” into the future to assess impact, evaluate risk, and a host of other things. They’d been taught to think, which is a very powerful thing. Anything specific they needed to know, they could and did learn.
Then along came the era of “specialists” trapped in their silos. American business hasn’t been the same since.
Why not let America implode?
Forest fires are natural and healthy.. it also cleanses the land of tree eating beetles (democrats/marxists)
It’s kind of rough on the TREES, though. Especially when there’s a lot of underbrush for fuel.
It’s coming, I’m certain. I’m not looking forward to it, though.
You know how you get your social security statement every year telling you how much your payments will be once you stop working? Why can’t they do the same thing for student loans? Send kids a statement every year telling then what their payments will be, based on how much they’ve borrowed so far. Maybe then they will think more before they borrow.
But, I think the financial aid offices are at fault, too. My niece is in grad school, where the borrowing limits are about $10K a year. She said she only wanted to borrow 6K, but the aid officer tried to convince her that she should go for the maximum to help pay for living expenses. It was almost the same when she was an undergrad – she always had a couple of thousand extra from her student loan because they always made her borrow the max as part of her “package.”
The recently announced “relief” for college loan recipients will largely apply to people who have not yet taken out loans. Those who are out of school now, and supposed to be paying back are left out in the cold.
On college professors, one of them told our class once, that most college professors have but one lecture they give, in different form, in different forums. Having attended some conferences while working, and having listened to some professors speak, one of whom I had as an instructor, I can say, he was right.
I saw the difference in the 90s. I went to undergrad (Communication!) in the mid-80s, and got a pretty good start on an education. I knew where the library was, read a few books, was exposed to many good ideas, developed a sharp BS detector (if I do say so myself) and tried to become an educated man.
In 1990, I went to grad school (English!) Initially, I had very specific goals — to master my craft. I was exposed to Critical Theory, which is bullshit, albeit very hard to debunk. There was also a generational gap with the professors. The pre-baby boomers were mostly old-style educators, well read folks who could teach and learn from. Then there were the Baby Boomers who had bought into all this Marxist bullshit. I avoided the latter group like the plague. Oh, that cost me.
After two years, my financing (TA) was cut. I asked why. The department chair said that my paper for admission to the Ph.D. program didn’t display “sophisticated use of critical theory.” It came out before I could stop myself. I said, “But critical theory is obviously bullshit. I mean, no one actually believes that.” He glared at me. I said, “Oh. You believe it.” My academic career was thus nipped in the bud. I dropped out.
It hurt, but it was a good thing, long term. I learned a lot from the retiring professors. A few years of working helped me separate the wheat from the chaff.
But it bothered me that the humanities had been lost, culturally speaking. I went over to the Education grad school and that was worse. Both the Education and Arts graduate schools were not only NOT fulfilling their mission, they were doing a lot of harm.
The Gore, Kerry and Obama presidential campaigns were the chickens coming home to roost. Kids aren’t developing BS detectors because they don’t have rigorous training in logic. Then Critical Theory, which infects the humanities, is extremely difficult to take on intellectually. Intuitively it’s crap, but stating why it’s crap is a different storys.
Bottom line: Today’s progressives and most liberals were students who were too good. They absorbed intellectual poison, and it manifests itself through the politicization of everything.
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I think the defunding of the humanities programs is the only answer — the professoriate are incapable of reform. Student loans have protected them from the accountability of the market. Progressives, such as the Occupy crowds, desperately want to avoid that accountability.
The reckoning may be at hand. For the our society vis-a-vis the humanities (and colleges of education), that could be a good thing.
I think that we have to articulate why critical theory is wrong, or at least counter-productive. Is it because it negates all value? Everything becomes subjective, since everything of value has been reduced. Mankind/personkind reduces its accomplishments to nothing and starts from scratch, a very subjective scratch. Youth can say, “we know better,” which youth always says, but critical theory lets them get away with it for too long. On the other hand, I don’t know critical theory all that well. I was a generation before it.
The big notion on critical theory is that one was writing something, but one’s subconscious was writing something else entirely. The critic was supposed to use a scrying stone to see what your hidden motivations were. It was developed in France, a place with an official language- the academic French- and a guardian on that language. There are about 150,000 words. Any prose is, by design,a sort of scrabble game of phrasing. It’s not subtle, or sinous.
It might work well in France, a place that values hauteur and posing and polished, empty phrases. English, however, has over a million acceptable words and no gatekeeping. What is valued in English is completely clear, precise communication- in whatever form the author sees fit. There shouldn’t be a neurotic backstory. As well, the good writer ought to have a deeper background of reading, and then a more creative forwardness, than the critic.
Critical theory is rather like being interviewed by smelly little French journalist- ” of course…blah, blah,blah…nonsense….” it’s a little cuticle knife taking on a great roast buffalo.
OTOH, it is a knife, with an occasional sharp edge. But the serious practitioners–it’s mostly good for samisdat, or prison writings. For free-speaking Englishmen and Americans? it’s a bad, sick joke.
We also have to close those jihadi-funded “Islamic studies”, “Middle East Studies”, and other similar programs.
Years ago as a young Financial aid officer at a state university, I dealt with a student in her mid 50′s who was working towards a PhD in Kabuki (It was actually in Japanese Culture, but her specialty was kabuki). She had maxed-out her student loan allottment,and she was demanding that I give her a waiver allowing her to keep borrowing. Her debt was massive, and she claimed that she would be able to pay it all back when she secured her tenured teaching spot (which if she continued on her schedule, would have been in her early sixties). I took a ton of heat from cutting her off, and when the University allowed her to cntinue to borrow, and threw me under the bus, I knew it was time to leave the Financial aid business.
Great Topic,
I also graduated 40 years ago and came out with no debt but I went to a state school.
I went back for a masters much later in life and the change in campus life was dramatic. There was a very high emphasis on getting foreign students. I was normally the only American in my graduate classes (engineering). The utility of a masters or doctorate doesn’t seem to be there so many Americans usually do it only for the resume.
I also noted the manic drive for more research. Schools make money off of research and my school had created numerous research institutes that weren’t there 40 years ago. The conference held in Washington are packed with Professors and Graduates who present their work but mainly look for research money from the FED to do even more work. A very small percentage of the work seems to have any utility. I went to quite a few of these and was always disappointed. There has to be a lot of wasted resources that could be recaptured and used on campus or at least give us taxpayers a break. It’s become a self licking ice cream cone.
I used to think I wanted to be one of those hired hands teaching engineering after a career on the outside. Not anymore…… I couldn’t wait to get out of there!
I’m a fan of vocational schools and community colleges. For lower division coursework, JCs are hard to beat: inexpensive with smaller class sizes, though I’m sure budgets have changed this somewhat. My first semester of physics at JC, for example, was taught by a gentleman with a PhD and I had only 15 other students in my class. Regretfully, I took the second semester of physics at university and had TAs and a huge lecture hall instead. Ditto for my second semester of calculus. The local JCs also have excellent evening classes for working adults focused on “practical” subjects like database design or certain computer programs.
I still think it’s possible to graduate with a solid liberal arts education with minimal debt, but you have to know what you’re doing, i.e., not screw around. Working part-time, JCs, and graduating a semester early certainly helped in my case.
There’s no question that there is a lot of pork in higher ed. but a lot of the suspicion of higher ed voiced here is yahooism. In fact, that seems to be one of the main problems of the right; their valid critique of the left often trails off into “get a bath” type yahoo posturing that advances nothing, but humans find it easier to be emotional than rational. So it goes.
Obama should be easy to beat, but when you hear the way the right thrashes about, trying to find someone they can stand, apparently anyone except Romney and Huntsman, you see why it is difficult for them to win consistently. And the people who appeal to them, usually are one-click away from self-destructing. They are at least as crazed as the left. Reacting, usually becomes over-reacting. Is that more prevalent in the right than the left? I think so, in that the left finds it easier to get behind their compromise guy, if they think he can win, while a higher percentage of the right blusters more. But then, maybe I think that because I spend too much time here and none on Kos or Huff-Po.
“Yahooism”
“There’s no question that there is a lot of pork in higher ed.”
“…the left finds it easier to get behind their compromise guy,…”
“get a bath”
”…yahoo posturing…”
Indeed D-White, indeed. Porking, getting behind, etc. Such “centrist” rap…
Do your find reading Dr. Hanson acceptable now?
Lord I was born a Ramblin’ Man
“…and doing the best I can.”
Some of my brilliant analysis on the need for romance and rigor in the teaching of reading have not seen the light of day in the Kimball piece on elementary ed. Poor Roger must have been struck dumb with amazement.
Hey, “Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
VDH is not correct in confining the educational indoctrination process to the liberal arts. The engineering and science schools are also changing, becoming just as left politicizing as the liberal arts.
Whole departments are being transformed by the infusion of faculty whose training rigor is weak but green ideology is high. Whole fields are created by the addition of the simple prefix “eco.” Consider for example “Eco Nuclear Engineering.” This has nothing to do with research on new, more efficient, or safer reactor designs; rather it is concerned with all of the terrible things “known” to eminate from existing reactors.
Huge Federal funds flow to those topics that support the agenda, and the proposals for those funds already contain the desired answer, well before the research is done. Of course global warmning is the lead industry, supported by annual billions, ranging from climate models to the effect of future climate change on animal husbandry. Everyone can get a piece of the action.
It is important to be aware of the fact that the politicization of our institutions of higher learning is also producing a decline in our technical intellectual capabilities.
Thanks Victor for confirming what I found when I went back to “graduate school” at midlife. After one quarter at a high-priced “name” institution I opted to pursue my degree online, for less cost and with far less liberal bias (though it’s inescapable in some textbooks…) Kudos for writing the obvious truth: if you want to get a REAL education… consider your options carefully before burdening yourself with debt. Postscript: I can also report that I am every bit as qualified “on the job” as my colleagues who paid more for their fancy name-institution degrees!!
As a person who sits on several Scholarship committees,let me state that it isn’t easy to leave college debt free. The Powers decide on your payment mix. A scholarship from outside,reduces the school’s subsidy so the student still needs a loan. ONLY if you can pay the full cost (a this years car every year) can you emerge free and clear. (Or make money for the school as an athelete etc)
Having taught engineering for quite a few years as a tenured faculty member at a large state university I fully concur with Prof. Hanson’s analysis. A few comments:
- there were more than 30 people in the university phone directory with “vice president” in their title. Many of these were faculty that had moved into some sort of administrative position where they no longer taught. The table of organization, if one could be found, was ridiculous.
- various institutes popped up like mushrooms after a spring rain. Again, the purpose was to capture grant money including increased portions of the overhead, build an empire, and evade teaching lowly undergraduates.
- having served on the faculty senate, I would be hard pressed to point to a more cowardly body of ass kissers. Infused with group think, political correctness, self serving. Discussions of core curricula changes involved dividing the spoils like a gang of pirates (i.e. distributing students among various departments by requirement).
- therapy and the therapeutic mindset totally dominated most instruction outside the sciences and engineering with perhaps a few exceptions. This therapeutic invasion cannot be overstated. There truly was an objective of producing graduates whose world view aligned with that of the NY Times editorial page or NPR. The state board of psychology should have cited the university and most faculty for the unlicensed practice thereof.
I left this of my own accord. My friends thought I was nuts but I had a vision of how the rest of my life would play out if I stayed and this vision was not agreeable. Time to move on.
Some advice to anyone reading this. If you want an education, study the hard sciences, engineering, medicine, or other subjects that are quantitatively rigorous. There is still value in a high quality rigorous liberal arts education with a solid grounding in the canon – rigorous courses in language, history, philosophy where one reads original works and time tested sophisticated commentary thereupon. Someone having such education should understand their own culture and know where they are in time [physical and intellectual] and space. Most importantly, they will have learned how to think and to exercise sound judgement. Sound judgement is an extremely rare and valuable attribute. This type of education is not easy to find. Suggest looking carefully at various Catholic schools where there is more intellectual openness, perhaps some smaller Jesuit schools [Holy Cross, Creighton, ...] Caveat Emptor & good luck
My experience mirrored yours.
“Discussions of core curricula changes involved dividing the spoils like a gang of pirates (i.e. distributing students among various departments by requirement)”
In a biology faculty that I was on, a lunatic professor captured an idiot dean’s imagination with the prospect of setting up a “Bioengineering” curriculum. The department head was too cowardly to tell the Dean and President that the idea was impossible given our faculty specialties. So the lunatic professor convened the departmental faculty to overhaul all the curricula offered by the department. Not a single person, except me, objected to the whole business as insane. No one had researched how changes in our curricula would affect curricula in other departments. Instead virtually everyone in the meeting tried to get to teach a course that they coveted but did not then teach. A total clusterf**k of totally corrupt cowards. At considerable political cost, I stopped the curricular mayhem, but the lunatic professor was allowed to set up a pilot program in “Bioengineering” that turned out to be far less modern than the curricula that were already in place. When the performance of students from his curriculum was compared to that of students in the traditional departmental curricula, it was found to be no better. The lunatic professor was not around to see those results though because he had been fired for being a pornographer using students as models. Academia became a joke somewhere between 1960 and 1990.
A M E R I C A N A U T U M N
Take heart, those of Occupy Wall Street. You are on a noble course. Your voices have been heard and joined by countless others. Like the first Americans who could no longer endure the tyranny of a British rule, you are making your concerns heard. Your worthy actions have spread like a wildfire, bringing a light and direction for real Change, for no more will Americans accept the empty rhetoric of bought and owned politicians.
There are some who call your actions ‘unorganized’. They do this in an attempt to minimize your efforts; but their devices are known and their days, as they well know, are near an end. Let their words not affect your spirit nor cloud your thinking. This event is like a melding of many elements which will come together and be forged into one mighty sword. For, as in this country’s origins, those Colonists were deemed ‘disorganized’. But from among those struggling Patriots arose those who became our Founding Fathers, the originators of the Declaration of Independence; and by their brave actions this Great America of the People was born.
Your actions are a new wind that finally brings Hope to the People. But take caution. Some of those who oppose you are desperate and without conscience. The many crimes of government officials, bankers, Wall Street, Federal Reserve (not a government agency), and other corporate thievery – they may try to hide their actions by wiping clean all computer records. Protect yourselves. Keep current paper statements of your bank accounts and deposits, and proof of mortgages and other ownership of property. Trust nothing to electronic files. This will reduce any chaos of their actions, as well as effects of solar activities, now increasing.
Be encouraged by the numbers joining your ranks. Soon, perhaps those of the Police and other agencies, who will find their invested retirement funds and pensions reduced or vanished, will join your ranks
LMFAO! Yes, join the ranks of the public poopers, the rapists, the losers and the open masturbators.
Your rant was H I L A R I O U S
This came through our email a few weeks ago:
because U.S. society espouses meritocratic ideologies of individual achievement
Not in the students’ lifetimes, it hasn’t. 1992. White girl, interested in engineering, parents paid taxes to Midwestern state of residence for ten years, 4.0 GPA, valedictorian, music and drama as extra-curricular activities, National Merit finalist: Scholarship offer from state land grant U? $250/semester. Puerto Rican male, no particular major in mind, parents never set foot in the state, 3.6 GPA, only extra-curricular activity JV football: Scholarship offer from same land grant U? Full ride.
Curse those meritocratic ideologies of individual achievement!
This article was interesting to me as I enjoy Greek, and am currently studying koine for my own use.
That’s all for my own benefit, though. I sit, statistically, in the top 10% income-wise at my mid-30s, but never had a college degree. It seemed worthless to me, and it turns out I was correct.
I suppose it would be nice if people took up self improvement studies, but without any motivation it is a bit of a pointless endeavor. I understand the desire to see people do better, but you really can’t make people do well. The reality is that the higher percentage of the population attends college, the more completely worthless degrees we will have.
I can’t link, but Mr Terbreugen, thank you very much for a clear description and defense of the liberal arts.
I started my formal education in college and worked with horses on the weekends. I loved it and wish I could do it all over, once again. There was no debt, I lived a normal life and did well. I discussed the class work and life with my instructors during class and over coffee. Upon graduation, I continued to work with horses; it paid better than the jobs that were available.
Education should be looked upon as a method to acquire skills for life, rather than a means to secure a job. A person who can think is better equipped to handle life and its mysteries; thus he will have more tools to handle the problems of life. It has been a big party and I have enjoyed myself. Having an education was the equivalent of eating with silverware, instead of using your fingers. What more can you ask of an education?
Back in 1993 I saw a memorable piece on a TV “magazine” show, as they used to call them, on the plight of recent college graduates unable to find jobs. The gave 3 examples.
One was a young lady who had majored in French (I did not even know that was possible). She wanted to be hired by a bank or some company that did a lot of work with France. In the meantime, she was working as a nanny. The G.H.W. Bush economy was so bad she could not get a job doing French stuff. What I wondered was why would a bank not hire an accountant or Business Admin instead and give them a Berlitz course.
Another was a young lady who had majored in Art History. She wanted a job running an art gallery, but the G.H.W. Bush economy was so bad that such jobs were not available. She was working as a waitress.
Then there was the young man who had majored in International Relations. He wanted a job as a US Senator but the G.H.W. Bush economy was so bad he could not get hired to be a Senator. He was selling magazines door to door.
Then the TV guys did something very smart. They asked Clinton Admin Secty of Labor, Robert Reich, if perhaps those students should have attained degrees that were a bit more practical in terms of getting jobs. His reply was incredible. “No. You should not worry about what you take in college because the company you go to work for will teach you want you need to know.”
So here we have the ultimate excuse for the College mess; it really don’t matter what you get a degree in, kids.
Silly me! I majored in Mechanical Engineering and ended up running space launches. Wish I had known I did not need all that stuff that featured that hard math business.
From the perspective of one who has a very limited supply of competent and responsive plumbers and electricians, there is enormous opportunity out there in the service sector for those who have trade skills coupled with some business savvy. Why has that been so hard for a capitalist society to figure out?
When your goal in life is to be the next super-rapper or a super-model with Victoria Secret, plumbing just isn’t very attractive.
VDH lightly touches on the issue of the physical plant in the CSU/UC system. Seems like we got a better education 3 or 4 decades ago in those old ’40-’50′s buildings with the fluorescent lights and asbestos ceilings. I have yet to hear of a classmate with asbestosis or mesothelioma . Our labs were outfitted with surplus gov equipment, more than adequate for the learning we needed to do. And of course no lavish rec centers, boutique restaurants, and so forth. I’ll never understand how the faculty survived offices in modular manufactured offices. We certainly may be world class in science and engineering. We are doing a great job educating a multitude of foreign students while our own kids struggle in film school and the popular therapeutic majors.
I’ve often thought the same thing.
Ever notice how much the cry “Support Education!” seems to equate to building more and nicer facilities rather than to emphasize what goes on in them?
And thinking of my education from the 1st through 11th grades, I cannot imagine what good computers would have done. Mostly they would have been a distraction. In the 12th grade you could have learned how to run a PC with the currently common OS and that would have been enough.
None of our K-12 schools had air conditioning. I am not sure that some of the buildings in college did, either.
VDH WROTE: “We don’t know exactly all the reasons why Plato (Platôn) so distrusted democracy and favored the Spartans, but it was more than just the democracy’s execution of Sokrates and his own exile.”
This article was published in 2008, “Doric Crete and Sparta the home of Greek philosophy”
http://www.sparta.markoulakispublications.org.uk/?id=143
It is NO mystery why Plato favored Sparta, the philosophy he was practicing was Doric! Aristotle was a Platonist and continues Platonic philosophy.
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