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		<title>By: Richard Gregg</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/some-signs-of-the-times/#comment-36758</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another elitist right wing conservative rant, that can&#039;t hide his hatred for Democrats/liberals, and (in-between the lines)the hope of total failure (that might plunge this country into something terrible), lingering hatred for Hillary (she&#039;s been gone almost 9 years, get over her), and dislike of everything that does not agree with the conservative right wing elitist thinking. A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste...!

                        RSG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another elitist right wing conservative rant, that can&#8217;t hide his hatred for Democrats/liberals, and (in-between the lines)the hope of total failure (that might plunge this country into something terrible), lingering hatred for Hillary (she&#8217;s been gone almost 9 years, get over her), and dislike of everything that does not agree with the conservative right wing elitist thinking. A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste&#8230;!</p>
<p>                        RSG</p>
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		<title>By: Sapwolf</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/some-signs-of-the-times/#comment-36606</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the idiots on here like Now and Then and Vivo will eventually abandon the Messiah.  Yep, they will jump off that ship and onto Hillary&#039;s ship in the Dem primary in 2011.

And they will believe Hope and Change from her and project too.

Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the idiots on here like Now and Then and Vivo will eventually abandon the Messiah.  Yep, they will jump off that ship and onto Hillary&#8217;s ship in the Dem primary in 2011.</p>
<p>And they will believe Hope and Change from her and project too.</p>
<p>Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: RagnarD</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/some-signs-of-the-times/#comment-36475</link>
		<dc:creator>RagnarD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Abroad -

&lt;blockquote&gt;The greatest defenders in America of a Castro or Chavez are precisely those whose lifestyles and income would be impossible under such regimes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ain&#039;t that the truth. Us folks in flyover country use water heater blankets, storm doors, weather strip and the like because they will save us a buck or two in the long run, nothing else. No &quot;higher&quot; sense or altruism involved here.

I think too many miss this. Our overlords would preach to us what they would never do themselves, left to their own devices because they can afford to not do the right things. It is that simple.

Poor Citizen @ 26:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Give it another two years then get back to us “deeper thinkers.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ba-Da-Boomp! Hey, Folks! He&#039;ll be here all week. I LOL&#039;ed, I surely did! By saying that you are pretty much guarantees it ain&#039;t true. &quot;Deeper thinker&quot; indeed. More like &quot;steeper stinker&quot;.

Ward Dorrity @ 75:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Harris’ work is important not just for its context of the threat posed by Islam, but for his analysis of the rational vs the tribal actor. This is where the starry-eyed utopianism that lies at the heart of most modern liberals utterly breaks down. To assume that all men want the sames things that you do; &lt;b&gt;that they see the world in the same terms that you do is breathtakingly, suicidally stupid.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Emphasis mine. Ward! Few I know in these parts understand that we cannot understand the various &quot;bad actors&quot; in the world for just these reasons. They have their own world view that is completely foreign to the experience of most in the US because they have not traveled beyond the safe borders of the Western World.

A few points from this morning:

- IOC selected Rio de Janeiro for the 2016 Olympics. The pictures of 0bambi tell all. The narcissist has received his first major defeat and the world did not bow down to his exalted presence. Tantrum to follow in 3..2..1..
- 0bambi met with his AfPak General, McKrystal, as an afterthought to the trip to Copenhagen. &#039;Present&#039; vote to follow.
- ACORN is catching heat from all the angles. If the Fed DoJ does not investigate look for the volume level to be turned UP ..... WAY UP!
- Unemployment is up to 9.8%. Cuing The 0bamanation claims that this is a success and things are &#039;getting better and better&#039; in 3..2..1..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Abroad -</p>
<blockquote><p>The greatest defenders in America of a Castro or Chavez are precisely those whose lifestyles and income would be impossible under such regimes.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that the truth. Us folks in flyover country use water heater blankets, storm doors, weather strip and the like because they will save us a buck or two in the long run, nothing else. No &#8220;higher&#8221; sense or altruism involved here.</p>
<p>I think too many miss this. Our overlords would preach to us what they would never do themselves, left to their own devices because they can afford to not do the right things. It is that simple.</p>
<p>Poor Citizen @ 26:</p>
<blockquote><p>Give it another two years then get back to us “deeper thinkers.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Ba-Da-Boomp! Hey, Folks! He&#8217;ll be here all week. I LOL&#8217;ed, I surely did! By saying that you are pretty much guarantees it ain&#8217;t true. &#8220;Deeper thinker&#8221; indeed. More like &#8220;steeper stinker&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ward Dorrity @ 75:</p>
<blockquote><p>Harris’ work is important not just for its context of the threat posed by Islam, but for his analysis of the rational vs the tribal actor. This is where the starry-eyed utopianism that lies at the heart of most modern liberals utterly breaks down. To assume that all men want the sames things that you do; <b>that they see the world in the same terms that you do is breathtakingly, suicidally stupid.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Emphasis mine. Ward! Few I know in these parts understand that we cannot understand the various &#8220;bad actors&#8221; in the world for just these reasons. They have their own world view that is completely foreign to the experience of most in the US because they have not traveled beyond the safe borders of the Western World.</p>
<p>A few points from this morning:</p>
<p>- IOC selected Rio de Janeiro for the 2016 Olympics. The pictures of 0bambi tell all. The narcissist has received his first major defeat and the world did not bow down to his exalted presence. Tantrum to follow in 3..2..1..<br />
- 0bambi met with his AfPak General, McKrystal, as an afterthought to the trip to Copenhagen. &#8216;Present&#8217; vote to follow.<br />
- ACORN is catching heat from all the angles. If the Fed DoJ does not investigate look for the volume level to be turned UP &#8230;.. WAY UP!<br />
- Unemployment is up to 9.8%. Cuing The 0bamanation claims that this is a success and things are &#8216;getting better and better&#8217; in 3..2..1..</p>
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		<title>By: dck</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/some-signs-of-the-times/#comment-36467</link>
		<dc:creator>dck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL of this is interesting, but what moves me to comment is your description of the new Democrat Party &quot;relationship&quot; between the poorest and the richest, with the middle class left out.

I think there was some &quot;deal&quot; or &quot;understanding&quot; made between privileged white kids in the 60&#039;s and the angry blacks they noticed in their teens. 

Some sweeping, moral and political absolution was delivered to these upwardly-mobile white kids in unspoken exchange for something. 

(Exactly what was extended in return? Unqualified political support for any pleading? Virtually unlimited access to tax money? Praise for Michelle Obama&#039;s wardrobe?)

The effect of this on the character of many privileged white kids was not to develop a real, hard-won moral maturity, but to deliver a smug, comfortable moral vanity that innoculated them from any angst over their own material success. 

The exact nature of this Class &quot;deal&quot; escapes me, but SOMETHING occurred between these two groups and it was not a lightning flash of moral enlightenment, as Liberals like to claim. That &quot;something&quot; exchanged is the key to understanding everything else about the Liberal political and social attitudes we see today.    

What you are analysing in this piece, it seems to me, are the mature effects of this great sixties understanding, but, to me, it&#039;s like seeing the residual grin of the Cheshire cat while the cat itself remains invisible and inscrutable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL of this is interesting, but what moves me to comment is your description of the new Democrat Party &#8220;relationship&#8221; between the poorest and the richest, with the middle class left out.</p>
<p>I think there was some &#8220;deal&#8221; or &#8220;understanding&#8221; made between privileged white kids in the 60&#8242;s and the angry blacks they noticed in their teens. </p>
<p>Some sweeping, moral and political absolution was delivered to these upwardly-mobile white kids in unspoken exchange for something. </p>
<p>(Exactly what was extended in return? Unqualified political support for any pleading? Virtually unlimited access to tax money? Praise for Michelle Obama&#8217;s wardrobe?)</p>
<p>The effect of this on the character of many privileged white kids was not to develop a real, hard-won moral maturity, but to deliver a smug, comfortable moral vanity that innoculated them from any angst over their own material success. </p>
<p>The exact nature of this Class &#8220;deal&#8221; escapes me, but SOMETHING occurred between these two groups and it was not a lightning flash of moral enlightenment, as Liberals like to claim. That &#8220;something&#8221; exchanged is the key to understanding everything else about the Liberal political and social attitudes we see today.    </p>
<p>What you are analysing in this piece, it seems to me, are the mature effects of this great sixties understanding, but, to me, it&#8217;s like seeing the residual grin of the Cheshire cat while the cat itself remains invisible and inscrutable.</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/some-signs-of-the-times/#comment-36465</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to understand how a Liberal like Obama  can not be angered by the actions of violence perpstrated by the Arabs primarily Muslims. He cannot see or does not to see who the aggressor is in the Middle East or for that matter one of the main agressors  for power and control of their people and the free world. Let us not pusyfoot around going through the UN an outdated worthless organization that is Anti US Anti Israel Anti free world with the influence of spit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to understand how a Liberal like Obama  can not be angered by the actions of violence perpstrated by the Arabs primarily Muslims. He cannot see or does not to see who the aggressor is in the Middle East or for that matter one of the main agressors  for power and control of their people and the free world. Let us not pusyfoot around going through the UN an outdated worthless organization that is Anti US Anti Israel Anti free world with the influence of spit.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/some-signs-of-the-times/#comment-36464</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most telling part of Obama&#039;s presidency is the &quot;Stimulus&quot; Bill.  When crisis erupted the first reaction of Obama and the Democratic aristocracy in Congress was to spend money on all their pet projects that will buy them votes.  That is without doubt the most reprehensible thing done by any party since the Civil War.

If stimulus was so necessary then the obvious and time tested solution was tax rebates to all tax payers.  At a cost that could have been 1/2 to 1/3 of the current travesty that would have stimulated the hell out the private sector and been spent much more usefully than a bureaucrat could possible even imagine.

Bush is not without his mistakes but nothing compared to Obama/Pelosi/Reed’s.  Bush’s mistake was bailing out the banks instead of buying up toxic assets.  The government could have held on to those assets for a few years and then sold them back to the private sector for a small profit, say a few hundred billion dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most telling part of Obama&#8217;s presidency is the &#8220;Stimulus&#8221; Bill.  When crisis erupted the first reaction of Obama and the Democratic aristocracy in Congress was to spend money on all their pet projects that will buy them votes.  That is without doubt the most reprehensible thing done by any party since the Civil War.</p>
<p>If stimulus was so necessary then the obvious and time tested solution was tax rebates to all tax payers.  At a cost that could have been 1/2 to 1/3 of the current travesty that would have stimulated the hell out the private sector and been spent much more usefully than a bureaucrat could possible even imagine.</p>
<p>Bush is not without his mistakes but nothing compared to Obama/Pelosi/Reed’s.  Bush’s mistake was bailing out the banks instead of buying up toxic assets.  The government could have held on to those assets for a few years and then sold them back to the private sector for a small profit, say a few hundred billion dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Weirdone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weirdone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8 November 2006, the day that the Dims took over in both houses of Congress. 
4 Novemger 2008 Obama elected 	
				
Economy in Free Fall  2/12/09
Dow Jones Down Over 2,000 points since Election Day 2008, 3400 since Democrats took over both houses of Congress in November 2006. 
These were the numbers on 							8 November 2006 Compare them to today.						
Dow 12176.56 all time high					

NAS 2384.94								
	
S @ P 1385.72 ALL UP						

Gold spot $635.00							

Wheat $3.78																					
Oil $59.83 Brent spot						
	
Nat. Gas 7.823	 Henery Hub spot						
		
Gas $1.5636 wholesale																				
Unemployment 4.4%									

Home interest rate as low as 5.375%					

CD best rate bank  5.45%								

Fed. T Bond rate 5 year 4.75%						

CPI 201.8 up1.3%						

Job creations; up 132,000 in Oct 				 
.
GDP est.3rd Q up 1.59%					
Budget	total deficit  for 2006 $248.2				
2006 budget 2.2 trillion										  
Inflation rate, latest figure 2.06%, 										
Yen 117								
Euro 1.27								
British # 1.87										
Canadian $.76</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8 November 2006, the day that the Dims took over in both houses of Congress.<br />
4 Novemger 2008 Obama elected 	</p>
<p>Economy in Free Fall  2/12/09<br />
Dow Jones Down Over 2,000 points since Election Day 2008, 3400 since Democrats took over both houses of Congress in November 2006.<br />
These were the numbers on 							8 November 2006 Compare them to today.<br />
Dow 12176.56 all time high					</p>
<p>NAS 2384.94								</p>
<p>S @ P 1385.72 ALL UP						</p>
<p>Gold spot $635.00							</p>
<p>Wheat $3.78<br />
Oil $59.83 Brent spot						</p>
<p>Nat. Gas 7.823	 Henery Hub spot						</p>
<p>Gas $1.5636 wholesale<br />
Unemployment 4.4%									</p>
<p>Home interest rate as low as 5.375%					</p>
<p>CD best rate bank  5.45%								</p>
<p>Fed. T Bond rate 5 year 4.75%						</p>
<p>CPI 201.8 up1.3%						</p>
<p>Job creations; up 132,000 in Oct<br />
.<br />
GDP est.3rd Q up 1.59%<br />
Budget	total deficit  for 2006 $248.2<br />
2006 budget 2.2 trillion<br />
Inflation rate, latest figure 2.06%,<br />
Yen 117<br />
Euro 1.27<br />
British # 1.87<br />
Canadian $.76</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your observations of the sort of person President Obama is and the world he envisions for the &quot;rest of us.&quot; I sometimes hear of a fear that Mr. Obama will be asassinated. I pray not.  But, if there is an assination, I believe it will take place with Obama being the asassin. The victim will be our beloved America. The process of killing off those institutions that have made her &quot;a light on a hilltop&quot; to the world may take some time, but it seems that the deliberate intent is as present in Mr. Obama as it was in Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your observations of the sort of person President Obama is and the world he envisions for the &#8220;rest of us.&#8221; I sometimes hear of a fear that Mr. Obama will be asassinated. I pray not.  But, if there is an assination, I believe it will take place with Obama being the asassin. The victim will be our beloved America. The process of killing off those institutions that have made her &#8220;a light on a hilltop&#8221; to the world may take some time, but it seems that the deliberate intent is as present in Mr. Obama as it was in Lee Harvey Oswald or John Wilkes Booth.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul -Indiana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul -Indiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82.  Meekly?  Not hardly.  There is a reason why the ammo makers can&#039;t keep up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82.  Meekly?  Not hardly.  There is a reason why the ammo makers can&#8217;t keep up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Kean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Kean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Mahatma Ghandi on Google this morning.  He led millions.  Martin Luther King Jr. led millions.

Now we have &#039;...bring-a-gun, ...punch &#039;em hard&#039;  Obama at the helm.

What a switch that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Mahatma Ghandi on Google this morning.  He led millions.  Martin Luther King Jr. led millions.</p>
<p>Now we have &#8216;&#8230;bring-a-gun, &#8230;punch &#8216;em hard&#8217;  Obama at the helm.</p>
<p>What a switch that is.</p>
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