OK, Let’s Decline
“Leading From Behind”
A recent report in The New Yorker suggested that the Obama’s administration’s weird sort of/sort of not foreign policy is now gleefully self-described as “leading from behind.” Not exercising leadership is a reflection, the article suggests, of Obama’s view that the U.S. is both disliked and in decline. Decline?
Here are some tidbits from the Ryan Lizza adulatory piece. The following I think is meant as a compliment:
“The one consistent thread running through most of Obama’s decisions has been that America must act humbly in the world. Unlike his immediate predecessors, Obama came of age politically during the post-Cold War era, a time when America’s unmatched power created widespread resentment. Obama believes that highly visible American leadership can taint a foreign-policy goal just as easily as it can bolster it.”
I supposed eliminating “unmatched power” would also eliminate “widespread resentment” — in that few are envious of the failed. Here is another assessment also offered as a tribute:
“One of his advisers described the President’s actions in Libya as ‘leading from behind.’ That’s not a slogan designed for signs at the 2012 Democratic Convention, but it does accurately describe the balance that Obama now seems to be finding. It’s a different definition of leadership than America is known for, and it comes from two unspoken beliefs: that the relative power of the U.S. is declining, as rivals like China rise, and that the U.S. is reviled in many parts of the world. Pursuing our interests and spreading our ideals thus requires stealth and modesty as well as military strength. ‘It’s so at odds with the John Wayne expectation for what America is in the world,’ the adviser said. ‘But it’s necessary for shepherding us through this phase.’”
What the hell is “this phase”? Where are we “reviled” and by whom? Syria? Russia? Yemen? Somalia? Cuba?
Decline or Ascend?
Does “decline” mean inevitable collapse, like an aging person whose mind and body have become enfeebled? That was certainly the view of the ancients, who felt civilizations had finite life-spans (see Jacqueline de Romilly’s The Rise and Fall of States According to Greek Authors.) Do environmental catastrophes, resource depletion, or foreign armies end societies? They can, as the complex pyramidal societies from the Minoans and Mycenaeans to the Mayans and Aztecs learned.
All that said, decline is far more often a choice, not a preordained destiny. There was no reason that Athens at 338 B.C. needed to lose to Philip at Chaironeia or even that the loss there meant the end of Greek freedom. Macedonian forces were a fraction of the size of a far larger Persian force that had swept from the north into a far weaker Athens in 480 B.C. No law said that drama of the quality of the Orestia, Oedipus, Ajax, Bacchae, and Medea had to give way to the sitcoms of Middle and New comedy of the fourth century B.C. By September 1945, England had far more of its industrial base intact than had Germany or Japan, and had suffered far fewer losses, both material and human, since 1939 than either of the defeated Axis powers whose entire national ideologies had been rendered bankrupt and their people reduced to global pariahs. Why, then, did a country that produced the sort of four-engine bombers en masse that its wartime adversaries could not, or a Spitfire fighter better than any produced by Japan or Germany until the advent of the jet, end up decades later with unsold Jaguars while Mercedes and Lexus swept world markets? And why did a bombed out Frankfurt and Tokyo (200,000 incinerated in March 1945 alone) rather quickly out-produce a less damaged Liverpool (e.g., 4,000 killed in the blitz) or Manchester? Clearly the UKchose a path in 1945-9 that a once flattened Germany and Japan did not.
If Rome was supposedly “doomed” by the 5th century A.D., why did the Eastern Empire last another 1,000 years? Why was 1978 America a very different place than either 1955 or 1985 or 1996? How did gas lines, stagflation, and malaise lead to the boom of the Reagan and Clinton years?
Our Choice, Not Others’
President Obama, listen carefully. By every benchmark, this should be an American century. Our known fossil fuel reserves are soaring, as new finds of coal, natural gas, oil, tar sands, and oil shale keep growing, not shrinking. Demographically, we are expanding; Europe, Japan, and China are shrinking.
We do not have the strikes of Europe, the violence of the Middle East, the state oppression of China. India has religious, social, and caste tensions unknown in the U.S. American farmland is the most productive in the world, its farmers the most gifted and innovative. We inherited a vast, developed infrastructure; out duty is to improve and expand it, not, as our ancestors had to, start from scratch building a Hoover Dam, intercontinental railroad, or port facilities in Oakland.
I remember growing up in the late 1950s and early 1960s, and the sheer amount of wealth creation since then staggers the imagination. I recall my parents taking me in 1962 to a dinner at a judge’s “mansion”: it was a 2000 sq. ft. ranch house in north Fresno — with three, repeat three, bathrooms — an unheard of thing at that time — and a 15-foot kidney shaped swimming pool to boot! The sort of elite home that is solidly now middle class.
iPhones, Facebook, and Microsoft are culturally U.S. to the core; construction, computers, oil drilling, and refining are still American premier sciences. For all the talk of China, it would take the Chinese thirty years to acquire the expertise to launch and employ 10 effective carrier groups. To the degree an India or China is successful, it is because of emulation of the West, and the United States in particular. When I have my solo lunches in the new courtyard at the Stanford Business School, I stare at the number of foreigners networking in this global training station, where the world’s elites flock to shell out tens of thousands for the expertise and signature degree.
We see in the misadventure in Libya what the Europeans do without the U.S. military. Japan’s dense population and centralized mode of transportation, housing, and industry make it serially vulnerable to natural disasters in a way a dispersed, decentralized, and huge America is not. Our poor suffer far more from obesity than malnutrition; diabetes and clogged arteries, not scurvy and rickets, are the plagues of the underclass. Is driving a Kia that much less comfortable than a Mercedes, is hot water in Trump Towers hotter than a mile from my house in federally subsidized apartments? Does a middle seat on a 737 mean you are tortured and exploited while the “rich” zoom by in a Gulfstream? My local Wal-Mart parking lot yesterday in Selma — poorest section of one of the poorest counties in the most bankrupt state in America — had 3 BMWs, 3 Mercedes, 1 Jaguar, 2 Metros, 16 Camrys, 13 Accords, 21 newer double-cab pickups, and lots of late-model Civics, Nissans, and Kias among 82 cars. I counted them for this article; my statistically “poor” town did not look like Dickensian London. Wealth has been distributed to millions in a way once thought impossible. When did driving a Civic make you poor because someone else was driving a BMW, or why was living in a downtown Fresno condo unfair if someone else had one about the same size and with the same accoutrements in Santa Monica with a view of the ocean?
I could go on, so why does Mr. Obama see us in decline? Is it a wish rather than a descriptive assessment?
1) Debt. In 1999 we worried about the specter of paying off the debt and transmogrifying to creditor status. There are trillions of dollars produced annually in this country; it is a matter of redirecting the economy from consumption to savings, and to wealth creation from redistribution. The years 2004-5 seemed to me pretty fat when the federal budget was $2.3 trillion. Go back to those spending levels and we would more or less balance the budget. California is in extremis with a $25 billion annual budget shortage; read the state’s newspapers and they are full of stories about notable state employees accused of retirement spiking, hefty profits at Google, record water levels in our reservoirs, and tiny houses in Santa Monica or Mountain View selling for over $1 million. There is money in the country, and money in California. If we had a leader that was willing to cut and ignore the furor, we could pile up surpluses rather quickly. The present fiscal policy is a choice to embrace redistribution and decline.
2) Energy. Known reserves of natural gas just keep getting larger. The amount of oil in the Dakotas, in Alaska, and offshore climbs too, even as cars are getting more efficient and new hybrids are getting better. There is enough natural gas and its derivatives to power quite easily a quarter of our fleet. Should we have a president who wished to drill, press natural gas as a transportation fuel, and shut up about “millions of green jobs” that so far means a subsidized 1-2% of energy production, we could do wonders on the energy front. Each barrel produced here rather than imported from Saudi Arabia means more money, more jobs, and enhanced national security. By asking other governments to pump more oil, as we insist that drilling and supply have no effect on prices, we want to become more indebted and dependent. Again, a choice, not a fate.
3) National security. For all the talk of Al Qaeda, the Bush anti-terrorism protocols — derided and then embraced and expanded by Obama — coupled with the terrible toll we took on Islamists in Anbar, and in Afghanistan, have meant that radical Islam is far weaker than it was in 2001, we far stronger. We are still spending less than 5% of GDP on defense. If we were to develop a strategic, consistent policy of bestowing our alliances and friendship on those who shared either our values or our notion of security, we could easily regain our strategic preeminence. “Leading from behind”? Does the president think Japan will rush to stop the North Koreans when they cross the 38th Parallel; does he believe France is going to air-lift spare parts to Tel Aviv when the Arabs again attack Israel? Leading from behind is like a person choosing to stay home from work – occasionally calling in to do a bit of business and usually being ignored. That too is a decision, not destiny.
4) Immigration. Close the border, institutionalize employer fines, finish the fence — and predicate legal entry into the U.S. not on race, nearness to the border, or the number of relatives in America, but on skills and capital. We would experience a renaissance. If were to end 500,000 illegal entries and replace them with 250,000 legal entries based on education and expertise, not national origin, proximity, or family connection, immigration would be one of our greatest strengths, rather than a continual effort to bolster political constituencies. Apparently, self-supporting, highly educated, confident immigrants from all regions of the globe are not one’s constituents, and therefore of no value politically. What would we do without “getting in their face” to “punish” the proper “enemies”?
5) Entitlements. Whether we adopt the Simpson-Bowles commission’s analyses, or just raise the retirement age, or follow Paul Ryan’s recommendations, there is a little discussed truth: we can make Social Security solvent and still support retired citizens in finer fashion than was true ten years ago. Borrowing to spend is a mood, a state of mind, not a death sentence. It can be reversed almost instantaneously — if it is recognized as a pathology, a sort of degeneration of the spirit.
We may well decline, and pass on a weaker, more divided, more insolvent and at-risk America to our children. But that is again, entirely a choice, not a fate. It is a decision that many prosperous, but tired and squabbling societies — 4th-century Athens, 5th-century A.D. Rome, 1950s Britain, 1970s America — chose willingly when they redistributed rather than created wealth, embraced envy rather than emulation as their collective creed, whined about not being liked rather than unapologetically assumed unpopularity is always the price of leadership and jealousy its constant twin, and talked of rationing, lectured on what they could not, rather than could, do, and made bickering between the generations, the sexes, the races, the classes, and tribes a national sport, rather than collectively and confidently looked forward to expanding, creating, and uniting in national purpose.







Absolutely agree with one minor disagreement. We aren’t choosing decline, be are being bamboozled into accepting decline.
As VDH skillfully illustrates (is there any other commentator who approaches the examples he cites within an order of magnitude?), if there has been a decline in America’s wealth in power, then America is now only about 4 times, rather than 5 times, better off than any other country with the exception of a handful of small homogenous pseudo-duchees. And our natural resource are still unmatched as is our workforce.
The so-called decline is 100% a bamboozle…the useless and destructive spending, the pretend-work government jobs that are really just another form of re-distribution, the massive transfer of wealth from do-ers to slackers, and the most incredible of all, the idea that our military power is decliningg, when the truth is that there has never been a country so dominant.
This is why I often say that the solutions are simple. It’s probably fair to say that Reagen reversed the previous bamboozle with one act…getting elected. On that day the hostages were released and 20 years of prosperity ensued, with the little side benefit of the fall of Communism.
In 2012, if a strong and confident opposition leader is elected, the same thing will happen. Why one of the republican ruling class candidates doesn’t proudly procaim this is astonishing to me, and unnerving…because the republican ruling class appears to have been bamboozled themselves, even though they were all witnesses to 1980. It is so unnerving that it makes you wonder where they think their own self-interest lies. And the answer to that question is indeed frightening.
proreason,
Your assessments are indeed accurate.I would add though the following-Republican leaders are for the most part Democratic-lite.The ones who hold the real power are basically in bed with their Dem counterparts, except for a few(nowhere a majority)who are true fiscal Conservatives, believe in the Constitution and see the nuclear family as a centerpiece of American life.This is truly frightening….
Moreover, ‘leading from behind’ is a stealth way of placing his ducks in a row for the next go around, merely setting the stage for his second term-heaven forbid!!
As he places radical surrogates in EVERY sphere of American life,(governance by dictates/fiat) regulating the nation to death, Obama is actually on the ‘down low’at this juncture, (unlike during his former life where it was a literal descriptive, currently it is figurative)as he prepares for the real show down.
To wit, Obama understands that a second term will allow him to go for broke, but in order to do so he MUST get re-elected.In other words, leading from behind is his strategy for the final pounce, but not merely for the reasons most people believe, humility and decline. It is in regard to FUTURE mischief-one hint:total gun control…..predicated on flipping the gunrunning run amok via ATF into a flaw in gun control laws, and NOT due to a preconceived disaster of their making, having NOTHING to do with gun control!
Sleigh of hand, sleigh of hand.
There is no one strong on the conservative side that will run and be subjected to what the media is going to do…I think it will be outrageous.
PLEASE read “The Roots of Obama’s Rage” by Dinesh D’Souza
Obama hates America. There is no one , not one…at this point, that can stand up against the left’s machine. They will be mocked, torn apart etc, no one wants to take this into their life.
WE have done this to ourselves.
We allow the unions to run amuck, ie Wisconsin. We allow the southern border to go unattended and mock the governor that is trying to stop the hemorrhaging.
We have allowed this and only American voters can stop it…I’m just afraid we won’t. Americans do not pay attention unless we get stomped on, otherwise it’s a case of “let the other guy do it”…”don’t rock the boat”…etc
the conservatives need to organize to prevent voter fraud. it may be too late but I think obama plans to have voter fraud his main election tool.
Well done, General. If you do not at least mitigiate- one fears abolish is too optimistic- VOTER FRAUD, then everything else VDH writes about becomes unattainable. Some states are beginning to take action, e.g. South Carolina; and since Republicans/conservatives hold more Statehouse seats than they have since (I believe, but need to double check)the 1920s, doing something about voter fraud cannot wait another 20+ years or our country will be unrecognizable.
The local Statehouse is the most advantageous and necessary venue in which to get moving and take action to ensure and protect democracy. Otherwise, leftists will transmogrify our glorious achievement- this American experiment- into a Socialist oligarchy where they enforce what they believe is best for those they look down on- blacks, Hispanics, poor whites- that is-their idea of modern vassals.
They see themselves as the natural overseers of the underclasses and Progressives know what is best for them. Hence their full-throated horror at the mere mention of VOTER IDENTIFICATION and free & fair elections. They KNOW the majority don’t buy their empirically demonstrable fantasies and so they are likely to lose. Socialists/leftists/Obama et al will do anything to win.
If we want to get the country back, there is scarcely any single, more effective way than helping pass local VOTER IDENTIFICATION bills.
Vote fraud is always the chief tool of Democrat election campaigns.
In order to beat the Dems, it’s always necessary to get a majority beyond the margin of fraud.
No…there is…another…
Bamboozled indeed, by true psychopaths spouting the same tired end of the world cult calling as Osama Bin Laden and Charles Manson: http://oi55.tinypic.com/2jb7fk7.jpg
I am greatly relieved that VDH has distanced himself conclusively from the fatalists who pronounce that we are in decline. But I also take the point of proreason who seems acutely aware of our past passivity in dealing with foreign threats. I wrote about that here: http://clarespark.com/2011/04/09/jean-francois-revel-and-father-mapple/. Just as the West (including the U.S.) was inappropriately passive with respect to the Soviet Union, I see the same isolationism and premature self-congratulation in response to the killing of Osama bin Laden. We have been infiltrated, our academic institutions are failing their students, and those of us with a clear idea of the determination of the jihad must never lose our own determination to survive.
Thanks for this reminder that we can survive and thrive.
Having read the history of modern Russia, I believe fiscally we are at the point where Gorbachev realized the USSR had run out of money and opened up freedom of speech. The old guard communists fought him as he tried to reform the statist economy. Yeltzin realized the answer was free markets, and thanks to Gorbachev’s previous efforts (including dissolving the Union), the old order began to disappear in Russia. Unlike the Russians, we know what freedom is like, we aren’t living in misery for decades, and we are aware of the ravages of Marxism. If we look closely at our central government, we find many aspects that are no different from the USSR’s centrally-planned economy/society.
Failed economies of the past including the USSR included a socialist-model school system. The Rasmussen Polls are sometimes puzzling, as they state 72% of likely voters believe we are not getting our money’s worth from the public schools, yet I see few efforts to move toward a market-based education model, as supposedly Athens, Greece had (reference: Market Education: the Unknown History). It would be welcome if you could add to our knowledge about education in Athens. (Or if you already have, please reference it as your insight is valuable.)
Super argument, as always.
Maybe VDH should set up an Exploratory Committee for president.
Notice also: a few typos, but no “F-Bombs.”
Dr Hanson is a gem.
From your lips to his ears!
If one were to try and put a finger on the overarching difference between a more pragmatic America and now it is probably the new American penchant for ascribing value to, not what we observe as demonstrably valuable, but what we want to think of as valuable. In short, political correctness and its many off-shoots.
We no longer care about what “is” but what coulda, shoulda and woulda. Our value system in terms of government policy started flip-flopping in the mid-60s and has only gotten worse.
Great Societies, affirmation action, “moral” illegal aliens who use the law or ignore it at will depending on whether they’re coming or going is the new paradigm and morality dispensed by skin color.
The very simple idea of keeping score is defunct in favor of gerrymandering reality itself to make losers winners and those losers have an invulnerable shield constructed around a belief in the endemic immorality of European Americans and how they built this country. Resentment not patriotism is the new reality and the word patriot nowadays relegated to the dustbin.
The new American doesn’t have heroes who enforce the rules but breaks them – they don’t fight Indians they help them.
In the new America, we are preoccupied with equality but doled out to the disenfranchised with massages, crutches, band-aids, buzz words, loans, aid, programs, special laws, double standards, benefit of a doubt, nurturing, explanations, blame, excuses, apologies, quotas, dead ganders, white kettles, and all the things one usually associates with believing a man is an equal.
Equal has come to mean us scratching our heads trying to figure out how to drag equal from last place and spending national treasure and energy to do it. Multiculturalism hasn’t resulted in tolerance but in intolerance and it’s every minority for them self. The perpetually offended and resentful don’t like America and want to change it. Into what? The failed Third World as near as I can figure.
The problem is that you can’t gerrymander reality, but you can wreck a country trying.
1. “Leading from behind is the oxymoron of the century.
2. This is Obama’s “malaise” moment.
3. It shows how clueless the Obama people are to think that this phrase (“leading from behind”) is a good idea. To us people in flyover country, it only reafirms Obama’s incompetence.
4. Republicans need to hammer this phrase and use it constantly.
5. This might be a sign that even the base (readers of the “New Yorker”) are feed up with Barack.
How about a legacy of a man who courageously advanced to the rear?
Brave, brave Sir Robin…
Obama and his ilk are the masters of spouting the oxy-moron like it was some profound wisdom, e.g. “We have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it”.
The truth- “Leading from behind” is more commonly known as- Following.
And Obama has always been a follower, expecting others to do everything for him. That is why as a nation we currently wander aimlessly due to a very apparent, and dangerous, dearth of leadership.
VDH: Ah, once again you’ve shown hope and more proof that we could change. Here’s to doing it and not hoping it could have been done. Cheers, and on to 2012, electing a president who’ll be proud of America, what it’s done, and wanting to lead the country into doing more!
At some level, Mr Hansen is correct: decline is a choice. But it is not a conscious choice. Rather it is the result of a changed population whose values and interests turn from those noble things that propelled success to dependences, excesses, and (fill in your own attributes). The fact is that we have changed. It is the conditions that produced an Obama that are our problem. Consider the possiblility that in 1970 a patriot, a hero, a voice for moderation, would be defeated by an individual whose record and qualifications were nil, if not decidedly negative.
I have to agree 75%. In 1970 there was an electorate who remembered the Great depression and WW2. However even that more mature generation had the media trying to elect defeatists like Eugene McCarthy and Senator McGovern and a comic book character, Bobby Kennedy.
There are external factors that lead to decline. One of them is the immaturity that comes with too much peace and prosperity. I cannot imagine an Obama being taken seriously in Israel, then again I cannot imagine him being taken seriously anywhere.
BTW,why does everyone want to throw out the illegal immigrants without whom all our crops would rot in the fields for lack of anyone to pick them?
The Great, Gullible Mind-Balloon Festival
By Robert Winkler Burke
Of inthatdayteachings.com
Copyright 4/23/11
I went to a balloon festival,
To lift my spirits up!
Nothing like balloons with hot air,
To fill an empty cup!
I had been thinking that my country,
Forgot Natural Law and instituted slavery!
Slavery of mind in capitol,
In school, in media and wolf-church knavery!
All this crazy hidden slavery,
Working hand-in-glove with other!
Other enslavement chill-thought ops,
To wink, wink: and provide cover!
Up, up and beyond, and far away past the glowing, overflowing June moon!
Flies the goony, granfalloon narrative of leader buffoon,
But beware such a mind-capturing, pied piper, utopian brain-prune,
Hidden-slavery loony-tunes, can’t be stopped too soon!
The first balloon I saw was,
Urgent-Emergent-Nothingness!
And millions got on board,
Too heavy to fly!
None asked why!
Pictures of sky!
Got them by!
Something went then: bad amiss,
The balloon collapsed,
Millions went dark, yet, in bliss!
Next balloon I saw was,
Seeker-Surfer-Casual-with-All-Cool-Thought!
Each balloon rider had,
A spiffy, splendiferous sap-phone bought,
Grabbing neck of another to the right!
Other hand, sap-phone held high and tight!
Sap-phones downloaded with apps of light!
That would uplift believers high: quite!
But they never left the ground,
They felt ripped off when their sap-phones got hot!
Causing no flight at all,
They texted each other: OUR LOT, FLIES NOT!
Up, up and beyond, and far away past the glowing, overflowing June moon!
Flies the goony, granfalloon narrative of leader buffoon,
But beware such a mind-capturing, pied piper, utopian brain-prune,
Hidden-slavery loony-tunes, can’t be stopped too soon!
Next balloon I saw was,
Programmed-to-Disregard-Higher-Thinking!
Venders sold fine bottles,
Of platitude-pandering cheap-cost drinking,
Shallow sips of illogical-brain nap!
Suck-the-soul-out-of-you sweet sap!
Blind-to-self-serving-programs’ map!
Cheer ghoul-zombies eating us: Clap!
The people got so high,
They couldn’t see their brains dinking: and sinking!
The last balloon I saw was,
Criminalize-and-Catch-a-True-Pilot!
They gave badges and ray guns,
To those who promised to not ask: why not?
But fly high, so high in mind!
Hoping for reward: to find!
Pilot: And shoot his behind!
None fly: that don’t fall in line!
With this thinking they fell,
On themselves and with rays each got: brain shot!
Up, up and beyond, and far away past the glowing, overflowing June moon!
Flies the goony, granfalloon narrative of leader buffoon,
But beware such a mind-capturing, pied piper, utopian brain-prune,
Hidden-slavery loony-tunes, can’t be stopped too soon!
So, I got in my old jalopy wreck,
But then my car sprouted wings!
I rocketed to Mars and came back,
Funny, what a good mind brings!
Beware! My advice: the cheap-thought purveyors,
They decrease one’s overall mental acumen, not enlarge it!
They’ll sell, for a price, their sky-to-moon stairs,
Turning your brain into bitumen, if you let them charge it!
Dr. VDH provides hope. Now the rest of America must wake up to Obama’s “decline” agenda. It is frankely difficult to be optimistic about changes by those who put Obama in office. They will vote for him again. Freedom of choice without awareness and insight is a wasted virtue.
VDH said it all except to reject Obama in 2012. Otherwise the “decline” choice will esculate out of control in his second unchecked term. At what point of decline is the point of no return ? Dr VDH ?
Exactly correct! It’s a choice, and one I reject whole-heartedly.
Now, to find some candidates who share this thinking to save both California (where the disease is most advanced) and the country.
By the way, I propose to refer to Obama from here on out as “The Hindmost”, credit to Larry Niven.
Though the Puppeteers would have better sense than to select Obama.
Thanks. I’ve been thinking it, too, since the phrase was first entered the political lexicon. But let’s not forget that the Puppeteers were very intelligent cowards. I think the idea of the herd mentality holds very well, too, for the left in general.
Now, this is lots better than dreams. Let’s take it from the top:
Our known fossil fuel reserves are soaring…
Soaring is an exaggeration and, in this case, an unpardonable one. As far as I know there is absolutely nothing in new fossil fuel reserves to come anywhere near what still sits under Saudi, Saudi’s production has peaked, and China’s consumption is rising as well as being applied to manufacturing real things for real money. This is what allows you to keep buying without borrowing, unlike us. The question is not whether there is more oil to be found here. The question is can enough be found to cure our oil woes without bothering to massively curb consumption. If you know of an energy industry spokesperson who says it can, I’d like to know about him, too.
For all the talk of China, it would take the Chinese thirty years to acquire the expertise to launch and employ 10 effective carrier groups.
China has 30 years. We don’t. The “carrier group” analogy is telling. One of the little understood things the Mission Accomplished Debacle is that for 13 straight months there was only one US carrier on the entire high seas. Start multiple wars unilaterally and you quickly deplete even the largest military on Earth.
Make alliances with “those who shared either our values or our notion of security”. Who would that be besides Israel? China? And why would that be of any help? What would “strategic preeminence” mean besides starting a few more wars unilaterally? And for what end? Particularly since we’ve never really finished the ones that Mr. Bush started.
Close the border, institutionalize employer fines, finish the fence—and predicate legal entry into the U.S. not on race, nearness to the border, or the number of relatives in America, but on skills and capital.
Close the border with what? The National Guards which we now use as logistic support for the regular military? What about all that “strategic preeminence”? Which wars do you want to stop or not start in order to put sufficient personnel in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas?
Canada already accepts immigrants based on skills, education, and capital. Is it the Canadian century, too? And where would all the skilled, educated, and wealthy immigrants come from? Europe? Japan? Israel? China? India? That’s about it. Which country would you expect to supply the most of them? And why, given the world changes that are in progress?
we can make Social Security solvent and still support retired citizens
Of course you can, if you can make the majority of the eligible work until they die. And if you can do what Mr. Ryan proposes, increase the burden of their medical costs from the current 31% to the future 68% [pace CBO] you can clearly get them to die sooner by forcing them to abandon all but the most pedestrian and the most dire medical care. Not to mention the immense pressure on the job market from the young and all those skilled and educated immigrants that will leave the elderly only bagging groceries, in blue vests at Wal-Mart or red shirts at Target, or flipping burgers anywhere–if they can even get those jobs at all.
I-phones, Facebook, and Microsoft are culturally U.S. to the core; construction, computers, oil drilling and refining are still American premier sciences.
First read the labels to see who makes all the parts. It isn’t us. Then ask yourself what we have done or are going to do to the schools here to make our citizens educationally competitive with all those non-citizens with school visas and that flood of skilled and wealthy immigrants we are going to let in through the borders we have securely fenced off without having the wherewithal to do it.
The inventor of the Compact Disc just died. He was Japanese. Ideas no know boundaries save those of poor education.
it is a matter of redirecting the economy from consumption to savings, and to wealth creation from redistribution.
Savings? Wealth creation? You must be joking. There is no way someone both driving a car and living in a house on borrowed money should be anywhere near the Stock Market, which is the only game in town that pays decently, unless their annual income is above six figures. They can’t ride out the down side unless they are.
So what are they going to do? Put their money into Passbook Savings at 1%? Or into CD’s at 2%. When the interest they pay on car loans and mortatges, which they need to keep working, are well above 5%? Give me a break. Below a six figure income only borrowing and consuming pays off.
That’s why we all do it.
Until monetary policy gets off the stop-inflation-at-all-costs dime there is no possible way for anybody not in the Stock Market to accumulate serious wealth. Those folks who can’t are simply playing against a rigged wheel because they do not have adequate capital to invest at the risk levels demanded and they have no decent paying alternatives with less risk
Our poor suffers far more from obesity than malnutrition; diabetes and clogged arteries, not scurvy and rickets, are the plagues of the underclass..
Maybe so, but so does virtually everybody else. Officially “poverty” begins at $25,000 per annum per household, practically that figure should be at least $10,000 higher if not more. It will be closer to $50,000 if all medical entitlements are dispensed with, along with unemployment compensation and food assistance. But then we won’t need an official standard now, will we?
This is a far cry from the Homeless Shelter, the Dumpster, and the bottle of Kamchatka Vodka. It is the people who work [when they can] but cannot seriously acquire wealth in an economy which is geared to routinely strip them of it by the mechanism of the unregulated, and inflation damped, marketplace.
It’s a whole lot of people and I suggest you not call them an “underclass” in their hearing. Most of them are still able to vote. Though maybe not for long.
“Which wars do you want to stop or not start in order to put sufficient personnel in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas?”
Can we start with Libya? Would that satisfy you? Because, frankly, we’re not doing anything there, and there is no clarity as to what would be a ‘win’.
all of the limits and failings you attach to the country practically all are due to government interference in a free market economy
we have plenty of natural resources—> but we cant get them
we could have a strong military if we spent money on it (versus the dep of ed)
“close the border with what?”—–> maybe enforcing our laws?
about your social security issues—> i’m too dumb to extract a point from this
iphones etc—> this is due, in large part, to regulations and mandates that force businesses out of the country
serious wealth only in the stock market?—> the elitism is beginning to show its ugly head; why are the “poor” driving in cars and buying houses they cant afford? keeping the economically careless afloat is a foolish proposition and being “poor” in this country does not begin and end with a dollar amount; it is a state of mind
why are the “poor” driving in cars and buying houses they cant afford
How do you expect them to get to work for that under $25,000? And how do you expect them to live when they get back? They drive cars and are buying homes for exactly the same reasons anyone else does, to get to work and to do better than they can do by renting.
Nothing is more “elitist” than the chronic refusal to view the poor as anything but a different species of human being, as vessels of moral turpitude, or as chronically deficient in judgment. I know. I am poor. I live in the same neighborhoods as they do. I do the same dingy round of trying to scrape by with or without assistance. And I actually listen to their stories when I can.
A person who is poor doesn’t have much money. Period. Very little than that differentiates them from everybody else.
Having said that the question is whether, under current conditions, they can ever acquire much money. For the reasons above, I think the answer is largely no.
If you agree with me there and have different reasons, maybe you should expand them beyond, “government interference in a free market economy” so we can examine them.
As for some of the other issues, being poor gives you a better grasp of the world of fact and the world of what is possible. “How about enforcing our laws” to close our borders? With whom and how will we pay for it? Laws, after all, don’t enforce themselves in the absence of people to catch the perps. They really don’t. And if we do acquire enough people to catch the immigration law perps, how will we pay for what they do?
I disagree with your basic assumptions.
For example, you define ‘being poor’ as ‘not having much money’. That’s an empty definition for it ignores the capacity-to-change that state of affairs. Does the individual have the capacity to change from the state of ‘not much money’ to ‘a lot of money’? This capacity is multi-leveled; it consists of will, motivation, intelligence, work capacity and even, some education. After all, a key attribute of America is that it provided and provides that opportunity to change-your-status.
In Europe, you were locked into status but in America you could get off the boat with nothing and in a decade, be wealthy. The same is true today – where people can start with nothing…and end up wealthy. By their own motivation and work. They don’t rely on others or a welfare govt to achieve this.
And certainly, being poor, in itself, does not give you a better grasp of the world of fact and what is possible. After all, the many poor who voted for Obama hardly did so not out of factual knowledge but acted within the imaginary world of ‘hopeand change’. A hopeandchange which would require nothing from them: no will-to-work, no work, no motivation, no sacrifice, no education. Nothing. The ‘goodies’ would all rain down on them..via Obama the Messiah.
mr marshall apparently had to walk through the snow uphill both ways to get to a library to wait in line to use the public computer to compose his list of reasons america will never be great.
are you sure marshall isnt one of obamas lackys surfing the internet from the basement of the white house making sure americans all know they must only advance by taking handouts from our benevolent all supreme leader illegal alien muslim barack obama?
ETAB…just as a friendly reminder. Nothing on this earth created or by evolution is equal among or within the myriad of species. The ‘social justice’ folks would have everybody believe that especially, among the human species, everybody is equal but for the ‘capitalists systems’ of unequal education, unequal opportunity and unequal pay. That simply is contrary to the laws of nature (practical term) and history. Every known society has exsisted…must exsist, with three principal classes of citizens for which I personally do not included the aged and infirmed. It takes an upper class, a middle class and low class of folks to make the world go round…..rich to poor….employers of every economic measure and employees of every economic measure.
Its apparent that the socialists social justice equality indoctrination has been a tremendous success in America.
After all, the many poor who voted for Obama hardly did so not out of factual knowledge but acted within the imaginary world of ‘hopeand change’.
What did you expect them to do? Vote for an obviously burnt-out and petulant old man who promised nothing more than “more of the same” and whose only serious qualification for the office appeared to be surviving a prison camp? After all, you don’t get a None Of The Above choice.
I will say again what I said before. Both the poor and, in fact, the majority of Americans who are “well off” have been playing against a rigged economic wheel since the beginning of the Reagan Administration. I think I described quite accurately how it is rigged and I have yet to see any who have had the face to contradict that description.
You can win against a rigged wheel, but if you keep playing you lose faster and you lose more. The evidence of this fact is plain in our own census data if you look at the % gain in either income or net worth over time for every 1/5 of our society, and compare it to the same figures for 1945-1980. Since they largely operate on intuition and faith, I’m reluctant to even ask a Conservative to address some documented facts and crunch some numbers. But these are numbers everyone should crunch if they genuinely want to talk sense about our economy and how much we are still a “land of opportunity”.
I presume that most of the people commenting here have less than a six figure income, so I’ll ask the direct question: What have you saved, where have you invested, and how well did you do?
Just how much better is your life after 30 years of “deregulation”, “workfare”, and “letting the ‘free market’ rule our economy?” My parents made a far better life for themselves by the time they reached old age than virtually anyone who works as a Federal Civil Servant and a Mailroom clerk will be able to do now. Let alone anybody who works as an “associate” in a big box store, or who is “lovin’ it” as a fry-cook for Mickey D’s.
Why? Because they were able to accumulate wealth in a completely safe set of investments at a decent, but not lavish, rate of interest. Any of you done that lately?
Do you have college age children? They are generally building debt levels that I didn’t reach until age 40. The partisans of your view in Congress have made absolutely certain that they will carry those debts to their grave, without any chance whatever of the kind of relief or renegotiation offered to any penny-ante corporation or LLC that is about to go belly up.
And now those same partisans keep talking about eliminating Federal guarantees of the loans at all! Want to watch our colleges collapse? Then act to prevent at least half, maybe more, of the students from being able to borrow any serious level of money. What collateral do they have to offer?
The future income from their college education? Phooey!
Take away the loan guarantees and it will be the rare Civil Servant or Mail Clerk who sends their children to college. And virtually none of the children of “associates” or fry-cooks will get there.
How’s your house equity these days? Were you still able to keep your home at all in the midst of the forclosure binge that is still going on.
We don’t even have to talk about gasoline. Go take a look at the corporate report of British Petrolium, even after fouling the Gulf Coast for generations and ruining several different types of small business and varieties of economic livelihood down there. Supply and Demand? Give me a break!! The price spikes are entirely the profits of a rigged market.
And if you think getting more oil out of the ground is going to change that, you’re a fool. Where does the profit go to? Why to all the people who have enough capital cushion to weather the risk of investing in energy stocks, of course!
I doubt you’ll find many fry-cooks, “associates”, civil servants, or mailroom clerks among them.
But everybody pays the same amount for the gasoline. They have to, to get to work at the big box store or Mickey D’s, just like you do.
Today on Fox Sunday, Juan Williams defined the rich as those making $200,000 a year (not $250,000). Please advise.
Advice: Juan a nice guy, well intended, and with lucky stars. But alas no bright to illuminate.
In the past, the Obots defined “wealthy” as $200,000 for a single wage earner and $250,000 for a married couple.
The question is: was Juan’s “slip” a matter of not clarifying which group he was talking about? Or an indicator the definition of wealthy has been/will be revised downward, yet again?
…wait ..are you saying you don’t switch the channel when Juan starts talking?
you guys are a lot tougher then I am.
GDI…Considering that the national median income (2008) was $52,029 per household and a household was 2.59 person…what would you consider as a fair definition of being rich?
This whole discussion only comes about because of the nations tax system and strucure. With a different system this would not even be a topic of discussion. Everybody would pay the same rate of taxes based on consumption of goods not classified as basic existence food, clothing and medical and a defined baseline amount for automobile and housing exemptions. You can’t imagine what that system would do for government revenue and cantainment of goods and services values. Also, it would leave to the people to decide if they were wealthy or poor by their purchasing choices.
Any attempt to define it by numbers is simply false. First you have to disciminate income from net worth, which is income + the value of property and investments. Average “net worth” for the median income of $50,000 is likely to be no more than $80,000 these days, most of this in home equity, and everybody’s home equity took it on the chin in 2008 and has yet to recover. Someone making $200,000 could easily have 4-5 times that in net worth, mostly in stocks or other similar investments: bonds, T-bills, Mutual Funds ect. This person would certainly be “rich”.
And the actual net worth at $200,000 might be far less according to circumstances.
It also fails to take into account how many dependents you have. The $25,000 of “poverty” is for a household of 2 or $12,500 per person. Your tax bill also varies with number of dependents. Some one making $200,000 with a household of six would have an income per person of $33,333. This is hardly lavishly rich, and the higher the household numbers the less likely a family is to have much other net worth.
And for the gentleman grousing about the $25,000 poverty limit, the limits for support by we call “entitlements” such as Medicare, Food Assistance, or access to government supported Food Banks, are far lower, starting with partial support at 50% of the poverty limit and ending with full support at about 10% of the poverty limit, and varies from state to state. The actual dollar numbers will, again, vary with household size and includes net worth.
If you want to speak with genuine intelligence about “the poor” or the “underclass” try pretending to apply for Medicaid and Food Stamps and look up what you would need to have as net worth and what else you have to do in your state to qualify for them. You’re likely to be very surprised. I would suggest this particularly to VDH and the other luminaries of PJM, since it is far more important for them to be talking intelligently about these things than it is for me.
By the way, is anyone else here [besides me] on either Food Assistance or Medicaid?
So how do you measure being “rich”? The U.S. Census does it best. They divide the total population into fifths and measure number levels for both income and net worth, charting them separately against household size. In other words, the top 1/5 is far “richer” than the lower 4/5′s, and it tops out with Bill Gates [or at least it did]. I personally think the upper 2/5s would unquestionably be “rich” and use that standard if I use the word. I also think the bottom 2/5′s would legitimately qualify as “poor”. Both these groups would be somewhere over 120,000,000 people. Which is why I twitted VDH above.
“Officially “poverty” begins at $25,000 per annum per household, practically that figure should be at least $10,000 higher if not more.”
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This provides a great clue as to why someone might claim that the US of A are in a decline.
Someone who is claiming that the word “poverty” should encompass everyone with a yearly income of up to $35,000 is engaged in some serious redefining of terms. Why would anyone wish to expand the number of people in this country who are called “poor”?
My guess is, they want more people to think of themselves as being “poor” for the same reasons they wish to foster the belief that our country is in a “decline”.
The more they can foster a feeling of victimhood – the more universally we adopt a view of our country as finally getting its comeuppance for past wrongs – the more we can be made to view ourselves as being victims excluded from the entity “USA” in order to allow us to revile and hate the US of A – these all serve the interests of those who truly want the US of A to decline in the world.
The only actual “decline” of our country, from what I can see, is a relative one. As these same people come up with more and more complaints about our past and present and future, they keep piling the BS up higher and higher.
And if you stand on top of that growing pile, certainly everything else is going to appear to be getting lower and lower.
But I’m quite content to stand down below and wave at them and smile, because I know that anyone trying to stand on a huge pile of crap won’t be up there for long. They need for us to acknowledge their supremacy before they sink past nostril-level.
But I can wave and smile longer then they can float.
1. “Fuel reserves” don’t mean “oil reserves”. You need to expand your thinking. Our TOTAL fossil fuel reserves including coal, natural gas, shale oil, tar sands and “recoverable” liquid oil ARE the largest in the world.
2. “Make alliances with “those who shared either our values or our notion of security”. Who would that be besides Israel?” Try Poland, for one, and other Eastern European nations. Didn’t Obama nix defensive missiles in Poland because of pressure from the Russians? Why yield to Russia who are constantly our obstructionists?
3. Your stand on the border is ludicrous, in effect saying “we can’t stop them, so join them”. WE have to do whatever it takes. Completely open borders is an unsustainable option. Ever hear of Arizona, maybe California, and their problems? Your position on immigration is also laughable. Canada has one tenth our population. As a policy, it makes sense to limit immigration to the educated only, or people with skills. They are least likely to need taxpayer assistance. It’s called pragmatism.
4. Your position on entitlements is just plain alarmism – “we will never be able to fix it so let’s not try”. There are too many economists smarter than you who will disagree with you.
5. “First read the labels to see who makes all the parts.” Innovation has nothing to do with where a part is produced. When was the last time you read a label on a piece of construction, refining, farming or drilling equipment?
6. “Then ask yourself what we have done or are going to do to the schools here to make our citizens educationally competitive with all those non-citizens with school visas and that flood of skilled and wealthy immigrants we are going to let in through the borders we have securely fenced off without having the wherewithal to do it.”
Open borders, what we have now, is a flood. VH proposes placing a limit on controlled immigration. Sounds like you are OK with an unlimited migration of uneducated people into the US, but afraid of educated immigrants competing with our kids. For a start, get education out of the hands of the Feds. Then get rid of or reduce the power of teachers unions, those same ones who have been promising the taxpayer for the last 50 years how they will improve our education system and make our kids able to compete with those “skilled and wealthy immigrants” you so fear. The unions were given everything they ever wanted – teh right to strike, smaller class size, higher wages, more money for facilities, etc. I’m sure you’ve heard of the $1 billion school in L.A., or did that go over your head? And in case you haven’t noticed, some of those high paying engineering jobs are already being taken by immigrants, because our kids aren’t getting the education they need to compete.
My impression is: your solution to all of the above is either, “it’s too late”, “it can’t be fixed”, “therefore, let’s do nothing”.
No. It is not do nothing. I agree with VDH that we have to transition back to a broad-based savings economy. But we have to do so by having the Fed return to a balanced policy of measuring inflation against unemployment and allowing some inflation to keep unemployment low. Beyond that, we need to do all we can to make instruments like CD’s pay above 5% again. Easing the crusade against inflation may be enough to do this, but, if not, we must do whatever it takes beyond that.
In the same way, I agree with VDH about “closing the border”. But I am willing to accept the reality that only a force the size of several State National Guards will be able to do it. Anybody who has ever lived in that region should understand why. The border is long beyond belief. It in no way resembles Israel fencing off Gaza and Palestine. And they must essentially militarize the border permanently. After that, we can look at what we are doing about the people. Unlike VDH I don’t think the legal immigrants are part of the problem.
If we use the Guard this way then we cannot rely on them as the logistic base for the Regular Armed Services. This means a smaller fighting force, so we also cannot make this change until we wrap up the wars we are currently fighting. Hence the border has to go into the pending file.
But we also have to quit chasing the illusion of “strategic preminence”. This is not our father’s Oldsmobile. The size and weaponry of the U.S. military is incredibly larger and more sophisticated than anybody else’s, but any army can only sustain so much combat over time. It is the threat of war rather than actual conflict that makes an army useful in statescraft. Our armed forces at peace would remain an unbelievably credible threat even at half its current size. And statescraft is what we need rather than continual conflict.
This leads us to the Budget. I am in broad agreement that we have to rein in our levels of borrowing. At the moment this probably means some serious budget cuts. But no part of the Budget should be sacrosanct, not even the Pentagon, and the cutting has to step beyond other political agendas, like defeating Barack Obama in 2012.
In the longer term it is actually in our best interests to try to sustain something like the late 90′s policy where the borrowing was slowed rather than trying to bring it to a stop. The most important drawback of government borrowing is that it sops up credit that could finance enterprise, but once the credit market is relieved of the burden, there are clearly things that the Government can do by spending money that also fosters enterprise.
It may be surprising, but I do not think the current level of regulation has to be massively expanded, and in some areas can even be reduced. We have to revise our attitude about what we are regulating for. The point of regulation is to prevent harm to the public and not broader social engineering. What is actually harmful should not be that difficult to reach a political compromise about. It’s not rocket science. People get ill, people get hurt, people get killed, people get robbed, ect. Nothing fancy.
In a like manner expansion of our energy sources is a must. But we must learn from the example of Thatcher-Blair Britain. They reaped their North Sea Oil bounty, but they also systematically cut consumption. This is how they got out of the genuine cul-de-sac of real socialism [as opposed to the usual paranoid fantasies here of "socialist America"] that was the product of Old Labor. We have to cut consumption. With the Chinese making money hand over fist at levels where they can pay for oil in cash and use it in enterprise, there is no possible way to create an energy glut to get prices back under control. Only reducing demand with expanding supply will do.
As far as an “attitude change” what is really needed can be derived from Bill Clinton’s boast that his time in office “made more new millionaires” than any other. We need to change the 30 year mind-set that if you merely make new millionaires it does much good for anybody else.
We need to remember that a truly healthy economy depends on enterprise, not stock speculation, and that enterprise requires financing from banks offering credible CD’s, or something similar, to people of moderate means as well as high-rollers and go-go mutual funds buying stock.
All the changes I would make essentially point toward that end.
The problem isn’t at the border, the problem is the employer. WE employ the illegals, WE elect the government, WE look after #1 first, WE think WE are a noble nation whose prescription for the ills of the world is a diet of – what exactly? Oh, if only they’d do as we say ….. then they, too, could be happy, just like us, creating rods for their own backs.
Close the border with what?
Barbed wire? Mines? Giant armadillos with lasers strapped to their heads?
Securing a border is not rocket science. Other countries manage to do it and I’m sure we can too, if we ever decide to do so.
Which wars do you want to stop or not start in order to put sufficient personnel in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas?
All of them, if it comes to that. But see above – securing a border is not the near impossible task you pretend it is.
The inventor of the Compact Disc just died. He was Japanese. Ideas no know boundaries save those of poor education.
A good point.
“How about enforcing our laws” to close our borders? With whom and how will we pay for it? Laws, after all, don’t enforce themselves in the absence of people to catch the perps.
You seem to be blissfully unaware of the number of people currently employed by federal, state, and local government, 99% of them doing nothing useful.
You spend a good deal of time whinging about the plight of the poor. One thing which would help them would be if they did not have to compete for work with illegal aliens. Then more of the American poor would have jobs and those jobs would pay better. But you’re so locked into your leftist worldview than you will sacrifice the poor before it.
You seem to be blissfully unaware of the number of people currently employed by federal, state, and local government, 99% of them doing nothing useful.
YOU seem to be blissfully unaware of what Government actually does for everybody. It is exactly for folks like you that the Federal Government really should shut down for a month, so you could actually see how much they do for you rather than just to you.
Do you drive on an expressway to work? Who do you think built it? Local, state, and federal governments built it. Who do you think repairs it? State governments repair it. Who do you think polices it and manages traffic accidents? State and Local Governments, that’s who. Who do you think plows it if it gets snowed over, or salts it if it gets iced over to keep you from killing yourself all by yourself if you drive on it.
At least 3 times in my life I’ve spun out on ice on highways the local government hadn’t gotten around to salting, or just didn’t ever salt at all.
Guess what would happen if governments did none of this.
You would have to pay a toll of money on every road every day that you use. It would probably be paved enough to wear out your auto shocks and springs, or blow your tires, only every six months. It would never be plowed or salted in the winter. If you ran into another car and it simply drove off, leaving you totalled and stranded, you would have to do everything to get yourself back where you came from and find yourself another car to use. And you could do absolutely nothing about the other driver.
If a gang of five or six thieves in two cars blocked you in front and back you would just have to sit still and be robbed, They might also do something a lot nastier to you. You’d have to be still for that, too. And you could never do a thing about any of it. How would you deal with the danger? If you were smart, you’d always travel with 2 or 3 other people and all of you would have to carry guns. Under those conditions you might have a 50-50 chance of surviving the firefight with the thieves, who will certainly have firearms also.
That’s what would happen if the government wasn’t there. That’s what did happen all the time on the roads when the government wasn’t there all through the history of this country. Maybe you should read about it sometime. And there are still places in this country where the State Police will advise you to either go there with a firearm, or don’t go there at all. I’ve been to one or two of them when I was younger.
Now how would you guess all this road building, road paving, road policing, and road clearing gets done? There are all sorts of people sitting in fabric lined office cubicles each with a telephone, and a computer. They buy equipment and supplies, cut paychecks, release funds, hire and fire people, write policy and procedure guidelines, let contracts to construction companies, and keep and inventory warehouses with supplies for paving and with replacements for all the nifty paraphenalia hanging off the duty belts of the State Troopers.
They also keep records of drivers licences and licence plates and do all the supporting activities that make it possible for the Trooper to have all this information, in real time, on a laptop, for every car they stop or drive by.
Not to mention the engine mechanics, 911 dispatchers, building janitors, department receptionists, and security guards that look in your bag if you don’t have an ID in view. They are seldom armed, but they are often backed up by a Trooper, off of road duty, who is.
None of these people, NONE of them, merely sit around and do nothing. Not even the Trooper with the guards, who will have a routine of exchange with a partner, one backing up the guards, one on the move monitoring the elevators and halls, who exchange places every 20 minutes.
For anyone to say that they do is sheer willful ignorance crossed with copper-bottomed gall.
curious, the more you write the more apparent your delusions become
I once swam in a race against a number of my friends after a pizza and beer party, on a dare.
I now have the perfect description of how it turned out, I led from behind the entire time. In fact, what most people do not realize, this is actually a Chicago saying and thought process. You see, our Cubs have led from behind in the World Series chase for over a century.
Our murders per capita has led from behind for many a year and our fixing of potholes after every winter, allows our traffic patterns to lead from behind while on our expressways.
At Jeremiah Wright’s church, he preached to the Obama’s for two decades about how to tell all the “garlic noses” and “them Jews” and “whites and Jews are controlling the flow of worldwide information and oppressing blacks in Israel and America.”, basically telling God to Damn America and teaching his congregation to tell America to kiss his lead from behind.
The place where most of America is reviled, is right here at home in Obama’s inner circle.
Moreover, there is this quote: “Certainly, there is no limit to taxation if the benefits derived from public services by society measure up to the cost in taxation which they have to pay. It is a fallacy to say that there is this limit and it is a fallacy to rely mainly on individual free enterprise to get the savings.” Barack Obama Sr., Problems Facing Our Socialism
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM41_eastafrica.html
When one views America, Israel, Britain, the West as “then enemy” and its natural inhabitants as “oppressors”, then the self-fulfilling prophecy of “revulsion” and the concomitant desire for the “oppressors decline” comes seeping out in every utterance, every strategy, every tactic, every sought out “kindred spirit in revulsion and enmity” of those “oppressors”.
Combine this with an idealized notion of one’s father’s socialism, the notion that more and more taxation and less and less free enterprise, is the path to living up to the absent father’s ideals…and you have a recipe for leading from so far behind, we may never catch up again.
“The place where most of America is reviled, is right here at home in Obama’s inner circle.”
That statement is all the electorate needs to know.
If only truth weren’t such a hard sell.
Which, of course, is why your last statement is, unfortunately – accurate.
” . . . we may never catch up again.”
That article cited by Dr. Hansen is so bizarre.
It tells me the level of sheer stupidity among these people that that she thinks “Leading From Behind” is a compliment.
Or that anyone can think farming out your military adventures to foreign countries militaries is anything but a disastrous policy. Unfortunately however-this is a really bad sign when a country is more concerned about its reputation than its’ own safety and security.
For the rest -At least in California I have to say it is in decline. And the people of this formerly great state do not have a problem with it declining-or they wouldn’t vote the way they do.
Brilliant perspective, as always.
How much of the hobbling and humiliation of America is due to a doctrinaire commitmnpent to redistribute wealth, and how much is done so our embarrassed Global Elites Americans may feel comfortable while dining among the glittering Citizens Of The World at posh restaurants and in the palaces of millionaires and billionaires? People like the Kennedys and Obama’s are so utterly detached from the people they supposedly “serve”. Far more time is spent with their real people, hobnobbing with the glitterati on private jets and in the world’s most exclusive haunts which cost thousands per night not including meals and spa services. I suspect the eagerness for the downfall among America’s Left is due more to the most obscene, craven and self-serving reasons than most could imagine.
Great article as usual. As someone who works in the oil industry, a refinery in southern California, Obama’s energy policy makes me crazy. Or should I say a lack of an energy policy. Obama wants our energy prices to skyrocket, he just does not want the blame. So he attacks oil companies again and again.
http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/04/obama-attacks-oil-companies-instead-of-own-incompetence-for-gas-prices.html
Making a choice that hurts middle class families by killing good paying blue collar jobs in the oil industry. The rhetoric of the Democrats about how they care for us middle class folk rings hallow and hypocritical because their actions are destroying our ability to provide for our families. I fear it is only going to get worse, especially if Obama is re-elected.
Considering that we are in a gas price crisis, maybe the Pres and EPA might have considered waiving – for one year – the crazy rules requiring different gas blends in the summer. Every single year, that’s the justification for higher gas prices.
But our President instead thinks taxing oil companies more is the solution.
Maybe, just maybe, this guy will get it when his popularity falls below 40%.
The Republican candidate that promises to stop a runaway EPA will have a powerful message. Right now we are looking at $7.00 light bulbs, $4.00 gas, diswashing soap that doesn’t clean dishes and toliets that have to be flushed twice. How crazy is that? And it was all avoidable. And it is still reversible.
Chose to lead from the front. We don’t want a President that leads from behind.
Obama must be defeated.
Oh, I’m well aware of how the Democrats have messed up our dish washing soap.
http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2010/12/thank-the-environmentalists-for-you-dirty-dishes.html
We had to search to figure how to fix it. Buying an additive separately works, also lemonade powder of all things.
The tortured semantics of those trying to defend Obama’s actions is reprehensible. I mean that word, for defending the indefensible is unprincipled and unethical.
The facts, as VDH has pointed out, are the Obama’s domestic and foreign policies are destructive to the economic well-being of America. His open hostility to the nature of America; namely, the freedoms of individuals to speak, to critique, to dissent; to work and increase their wealth; to invest in private enterprises; to support and nurture the rule of law and democracy; to support and nurture the rights and responsibilities of being a citizen….all of these basic American axioms are under attack by Obama and his gang.
Obama rejects criticism; notice how he deals with people who critique him. He sets up a situation where he is, in his role as president, inviolate and can pontificate without any redress: his state of the union where he insults the Supreme Court, his recent deficit address where he openly insulted Paul Ryan and his plan; his press party, where he invited Trump and then openly insulted and mocked him.
That’s how Obama treats any who come up with criticism of him, who come up with dissent, different plans…He is unable to interact as an equal; he must control, dominate and belittle.
Then, there’s his denigration of work and production. Work produces wealth. Obama sneers at this connection; he denigrates wealth as a result of work. Obama focuses only on consumption – demanding that ‘the wealthy’ give up their wealth..to others who produce nothing and who simply consume. Wealth production is not meant to be consumed in its entirety; a large portion of it must be INVESTED in future-oriented infrastructures to make more work. Obama’s ideology of the future is imaginary – hopeandchange. There is nothing specific or concrete about it. It’s naive, ignorant..and disastrous to move into a consumption-society and give up production and the development of wealth.
Obama has, himself, never actually worked-for-results. He has been unaccountable all his life and has slithered through by virtue of personal manipulation, charm..and race. His time as Editor of the Harvard Law Review? He edited nothing, wrote nothing; left it all to others. His time as a law lecturer – he followed the course outline. Community activist? Just exhorting others to ‘activate’. And voting ‘present’ as a Senator.
His time as President? He leaves all policy and program development to others; in particular, his backroom gang of unelected radical socialists that he has surrounded himself with.
Foreign policy? Obama hasn’t a clue – other than his basic anti-Americanism and basic anti-Western biases.
A key aspect of Obama is that he has only one focus: his own emotional largesse – which comes from a feeling that he controls other people. This need to control means that Obama must reduce individual freedom and rights. Notice again, how malicious he is to people who critique him, who dissent from him, who oppose him…That’s because he can’t handle feeling that he can’t control him. Such a psychological aberration is dangerous. The GOP are wise to keep their 2012 candidate’s emergence..slow..for Obama will stop at nothing to confront, denigrate and destroy any candidate.
You left out that Barack has played golf 65 times in two years. That’s about once every two weeks.
GWB stopped playing golf after 9-11-01.
Right. For Obama, it’s golf, basketball, endless hours watching sports on TV, parties and dinners…and campaigns.
That’s all there is to Obama. He exists only in situations where he can play..and manipulate others.
Policies and programs? He leaves it all, entirely all, to others. Indeed, it’s been reported that he simply leaves the room when policies are discussed. He leaves it to his gang of radical socialists with their statist agenda, their antipathy to the basic principles of America and its Constitution – they write the policies. Obama will present them to Congress; and insists that they be passed without reading or debate…based only on Trust in The Leader. This contempt for Congress, i.e., contempt for the people is shown as well by his open sneers at the Tea Party, at FOX news, at any who do not kneel before The One.
Press conferences? He has as few as possible and most are carefull controlled. He can’t handle in-depth exploratory questions because he’s ignorant not merely of the policies – and his answers are filled with misinformation, false and fallacious data and irrelevancies – but he’s ignorant of the issues and theories.
All he can do – besides golf and parties, is campaign, for that’s a situation where rhetoric triumphs over facts, where the imaginary triumphs over reality. Since Obama ignores both facts and reality – all he can do is: campaign. He can’t lead a country. He can’t even run a business. Or be a productive member of Senate. All he can do is: talk. And…if you confront him..then, he becomes malicious and vindictive. That’s Obama.
ETAB:
With great respect for your views,just a gentle reminder that a large part of Fox News is Bill O’Reilly, Juan Williams, Mike Huckleberry, Greta Van Susteren, Geraldo Rivera and assorted other left wingnuts. Who other than Sean Hannity, Bret Baher and occassionally Brit Hume when he isn’t on a mission to stop Mitt Romney, or save Tiger Woods, on the big conservative “News” channel has any credibility? What am I missing since I do realize that compared to all the others…….?
I say spend more time, much more time on the links. Get out of the Oval Office more, spend time with the wife and kids. Take Dingy Harry with you to caddy, lord knows he doesn’t seem capable of much else. Can I be the new Golf Czar? I suck at the game so I’m just the one to compel everyone to play just like me, or else my good golf buddies at SEIU…
The American people get the government they deserve. We are the fruit of sixty years of progressive indoctrination in our schools,churches and secular institutions.Someone like Obama was bound to be elected and succeed in implementing his program.
The dollar is losing ground every day to the Euro,which is a piece of crap. What does that tell you about the state we are in? I sometimes wish I had died in Nam,then to see this .
“… a choice, not a preordained destiny”—- Islam (i.e. submission to Allah) is a very fatalistic religion. All things happen because the compassionate and merciful Allah wills it. An individual’s free will is limited to choosing between being a good Muslim or an infidel. Everything else that happens in your life (and the life of your country) is not due to one’s free will to choose, but God’s immutable plan.
I believe the President is a Christian, but that his attitude can be explained by a self confidence that the future is already written and as a nation we should prepare to meet to our fate.
“It’s naive, ignorant..and disastrous to move into a consumption-society and give up production and the development of wealth.”
This is the only part I disagree with.
It’s not naive and ignorant, it’s deliberate and planned; not so much by the vapid ego but by the cabal that uses his as the front man.
A commentor on another thread said something I found startingly illustrative: they want us to be like animals that they control, living in cubicles stacked in packed cities, getting around in the boxes that they attach to rails, doling out calories, energy and health units. Like chickens in coops. All of this sprawl, mobility, striving, competition, cultural evolution we live with makes us very difficult to control. They won’t be satisfied until they contol it and completely dominate the chickens.
this comment was meant for ETAB’s response to VDH
Right – I’d agree that the focus on enabling everyone-to-consume, rather than increasing the capacity-for-production is held by the cabal that run Obama. Obama is the front-man – a vapid, shallow, ignorant, narcissistic ego.
But what puzzles me, is the ignorance of the cabal. It doesn’t take many brain cells to understand a simple mathematical equation, that if you subtract 5 from 5, you are left with zero. So if you remove the wealth from the producers, and distribute it to everyone who does NOT produce wealth, then…the result is zero capacity-to-produce-more-wealth. Don’t they understand this?
I suspect that Obama and the Gang view ‘wealth’ as something like a Golden Well. It’s all ‘there’, bubbling up from some deep whatever in the ground, endless, eternal…and meant to be given to the whole village and not horded by one landowner. That’s not wealth.
Wealth is the result of producing goods and services. Wealth is what’s left after the bills have been paid: the cost of raw goods, labor, parts and supplies, marketing, transportation, shipping. What’s left is PROFIT. And profit must, absolutely must, be INVESTED. In new equipment, in new research, in another factory, in more jobs…to make more wealth. That’s how a production-oriented economy works.
A consumer-oriented economy…consumes. But what does it consume if it reduces its capacity-to-produce wealth? It moves into a dependent economy, based on DEBT. That’s where you borrow from the consumer-returns of the future consumer purchases…so that you can give people money to pay for today’s purchases. That’s like living-by-plastic, i.e., by credit card.
Since you’ve abandoned wealth-production, you can’t produce the goods yourself…so, you turn to China and India, for example, as sources of the goods-to-consume.
What has transformed the US from a wealth-producing nation to a consuming only nation? Unions are one key cause, for they have driven up the costs of production of goods beyond the carrying capacity of the economy..and driven production into foreign control.
And, exhorbitant federal and state taxes on businesses is yet another key cause. Remember, Obama wants to tax any individual making over 200,000 a year (he considers that sum to define a ‘millionaire’). Most of these people are small business owners – and so, Obama will decimate, even further, the US capacity to produce wealth.
It’s time to stop this destruction of America and Americans.
He wants to use the seed corn to make free corn chips for all.
Yes! YES! I read that exchange between you and Merlin, copied it and sent it along to others. Original and frighteningly plausible.
Every time I read VDH or listen to Bill Whittle (two American jewels), I’m reminded why I still have a ray of hope that Americans will decide to throw out the dead weight and push themselves off the sandbar.
Good comments too for the most part.
Good call. They are like blasts of cold, clean air.
Shhhhhhhhh….
Don’t confuse Barry with facts. You’ll just muddle the process and he may miss a putt.
Is that “Lead from behind” or “lead with head in behind”?
What the hell is “this phase”? Where are we “reviled” and by whom? Syria? Russia? Yemen? Somalia? Cuba?
I’ve asked that question so many times. Who, exactly, comprises the alleged “international community” that so reviles the United States ? And why should Americans care what they think, or are alleged to think, since it’s all orchestrated political smoke and mirrors, with more than a soupcon of hypocrisy ?
Zimbabwe? Oogoe’s Venezuela? North Korea? Iran? China?
Obama was essentially brought up in the school of negativity when it comes to America. That’s the attitude instilled into his bones from the getgo. In the circles in which he travels and has traveled, such an attitude is de rigueur. Otherwise, you’re just not a member of the smart set.
As a weak person, Obama clings to that narrative like it’s a life raft. He understands little of what preceded his “coming” in August of 1961.
In Hawaii :) To a Dad that should have inspired nightmares, not dreams.
dad ?? are you referring to the “slippery fellow”
On numbers 4 & 5…
There is also merit to letting those in who are willing and eager to work those difficult low wage jobs as a means to assimilation and advancement in our country. Not necessarily the most highly educated or financially endowed but in some cases very motivated people who contribute much to our society. I’d be curious to hear VDH’s opinion of the fast track to citizenship via military service. Should we be relying on foreign born souls to fight our wars?
This leads us to #5. What of those on opposite ends of the scale who don’t wish to serve in any capacity leaving the majority of us in the middle to shoulder nearly all of the burdens? The wealthy who avoid taxation by any means and others who are capable to working in some capacity yet manage to live full lives (Walmart, BMW, foodstamps, Medical, etc etc) largely at the expense of responsible citizens who wish for no handouts.
I have no problems with labor unions, Social Security, Medicare and so forth. The problem lay with those who see no obligation to the society as a whole. We’ve got the government we deserve.
VDH’s article reads like a draft for an Exceptionalist manifesto., something that the Tea Party needs. Pride in self or in one’s nation’s record is not de facto “arrogance”. It is an essential to maintaining freedom and security. Only a ideolgically warped simpleton could prpound “leadership from behind” as a strategy. It is not oxymoronic, it is just plain moronic. To lead means to be in front,
Obama is dedicated to the destruction of capitalism, of which the first step is necessarily decline. He is as steeped in the communist faith of his father, nhis mother, his mentor :Pops”. his favorite professors, his patron. Bill Ayers, his model, Chairman Mao, as the Ayattolah Khomani is in Islam. That is the audacity of his hope. That’s what he means by “change” – not just a turn to the left, but a plunge to the bottom. He has gien up “presiding” and is currently devoting hinself to “Community Organizing” the electorate in the glories of wealth distribution, nationalized medicine, controlling consumption, saving the environment by refusing to drill for oil, and control of the press.
Since nobody in politics seems willing to come right out and say it, or even the learned Professor Hanson,maybe Donald Trump will. Because that should be THE issue come November, 2012.
Bush’s Edison light bulb ban kicks in in 2012. Obama’s bludgeon in the war against capitalism is the junk science of climatology based on tree ring records. Actual thermometer records are a taboo topic since they disprove the whole idea that recent warming is of any interest at all instead of just a boring continuation of a very old linear trend. See here in single glance format a plot of them: http://oi49.tinypic.com/rc93fa.jpg
Thank God and Gore for the Internet which allows such information to be broadcast by anybody with an iPhone in their pocket.
“Leading from Behind” is simply leftspeak for “not knowing what to do.” You don’t have to be John Wayne to adopt a coherent policy or define your foreign goals with some specificity. If you are depending on a “stealth” foreign policy then I take that as an admission that nobody in the White House or Foggy Bottom really knows what is going on.
Once again I can only quote Churchill when he decried the British government’s lack of a coherent policy in the face of the growing meance from Germany – “The truth is they simply do not know what to do – So they [the Government] go on in strange paradox, decided only to be undecided, resolved to be irresolute, adamant for drift, solid for fluidity, all-powerful to be impotent.”
And he could have added “Going forward so that they can lead from behind.”
Amen to that. Winston Churchill was in full command of the English language. We need someone like him now, to call out the Appeaser-in-Chief.
“Chariot 54, Where Are You” is a classic.
Literally.
And I liked “My Favorite Mycenaean”, “The Αναστασιος Family”, “Gennadios’s Island”, “Mr. Oedipus”, “F Phalanx”, “Galen Pyle, S.P.A.R.T.A.”, “Have Spear, Will Travel”, “Leave It To Castor”, “Philandros Junction”, “The Antipater Griffith Show”, and “The Twilight Ζωη”
I agree in general in that this country is in a decline, but I don’t just blame Obama, we were in decline w/Bush too. I tend to think Obama has made more mistakes, ie Health Care, etc. But I think something needs to be done. What I don’t know but we are headed into a huge mess of debt!
True leadership to take us from the abyss lives on, at least in California. This must be true because I read it here, right in the L.A. Times.
With this notable level of candor, common sense and dedication to the principles upon which the United States
is founderingwas founded, there are no limits to . . . . .No wonder President Obama is leading from behind. With these stalwarts out in front, why should he or anyone else bother?
“ground zero for working men and women in California”
Leaving aside the (usual) ham-handed rhetoric for the moment, is anyone else as offended as I am? the use of that phrase for anything other than the the tomb of hundreds of Americans does not sit well with me.
As a native New Yorker, I was blessed to be able to visit the site several times.
Call me oversensitive, and maybe I am making a big deal out of very little, but to me, anyone who uses the phrase “ground zero” has probably never been there – or is incapable of emotion.
We’ve been building up to this moment for decades.Too many people have learned how to vote themselves something for nothing. The busybodies and oikophobes learned how to exploit class and race envy with the new improved therapeutic jargon of victimhood rather than jackboots and shouting. Feminism and homosexual grievance were given the green light by formerly repressed alpha males seeking the demise of the old European honor culture – and do it in with the schmucks own money. It doesn’t matter much which party’s in power although the zealots on the left seem more hellbent to me than “compassionate” conservatives. However, all the pieces came together with Obama.
Great inspiration Dr.Hansen. The Republican I hear now who is proud of America and its future is Romney. He was Reagan-like on Greta the other night. Dr. Hansen, my big problem is trying to understand the Jewish vote and more importantly, the Jewish members of Congress. They are excessively quiet, including Senator Lieberman, in letting Obama and his administration to defile Israel, the only democracy in that region. I need an answer from anyone as to why these Jewish Congress members are not speaking out against this administration’s policy towards Israel. Some of the Christian groups are more vocal than some Jewish organizations against the Obama adminstration.
The following article accurately and clearly explains this phenomenon.
“Explaining Jewish Political Behavior”, by Barry Rubin
http://rubinreports.blogspot.com/2010/08/explaining-jewish-political-behavior.html
I am a Jewish former “Liberal”. That is: My ethnicity is Jewish; I used to, but I no longer do, consider myself to be “Liberal” politically. Verily Barry Rubin knows well whereof he writes.
The political views that I hold are those that, I think, are the political views of classical liberalism.
The principals of the political views that I hold, which are the principals that I adhere to, which, I think, are the main principals of classical liberalism, are the protection of liberty from tyranny for all individuals, and the protection of justice for all individuals, and the protection of free trade for individuals. In summary, the essential principal of the political views that I hold, which, I think, is the essential principal of classical liberalism, is the protection against infringement, by anyone, upon one’s life, liberty, and well-being, for all individuals. The view that I hold of what constitutes the rights of individuals, and of what constitutes the infringement upon the rights of individuals, which, I think, is the view that classical liberalism holds of what constitutes the rights of individuals, and of what constitutes the infringement upon the rights of individuals, is the view that what constitutes the rights of individuals, and that what constitutes the infringement upon the rights of individuals, are the rights of individuals, and the infringement upon the rights of individuals, that are discerned, and determined, by reason.
Correction:
I wrote:
which should be:
“A recent report in The New Yorker suggested that the Obama’s administration’s weird sort of/sort of not foreign policy is now gleefully self-described as “leading from behind.” Not exercising leadership is a reflection, the article suggests, of Obama’s view that the U.S. is both disliked and in decline.”
Not sure what article the Good Professor is referring to, since he supplied neither a date nor a link. But, no matter. As he’s proven, even a wingnut can quote the New Yorker for his purposes. Below, I’ve provided some salient paragraphs from and a link to Lizza’s blog, “Leading From Behind.” Enjoy. And learn.
“As some conservatives argue, this leading from behind business could certainly be used as a beard to cover up a lack of any leadership at all. But the real test is whether Obama accomplished the U.S. goal of getting the United Nations to authorize war in Libya, and on that score he was successful. It’s no small thing. Bill Clinton could not get U.N. approval for the war in Kosovo and George W. Bush could not get U.N. approval for the war in Iraq.
“Frankly, what Obama did was a massive bait and switch. He used the Arab League’s support for a no-fly zone to win United Nations support for a far larger military intervention. The debate about the merits of this style of leadership should also take into account what was accomplished.”
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/04/leading-from-behind-obama clinton.html#ixzz1L8q6SPqJ
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2011/04/leading-from-behind-obama-clinton.html
Your key notion, point is so simple: It is all about one’s “choice” and nothing more.
Now, why does Obama-Mao make the choices he is making? Answer this question and we then have a painted picture for all to see and make his/her “choice” whether to keep this guy in his present position, or fire his American hating being! I think you know which choice I’ll be making!
Wow, this is as powerful an indictment of Obama’s leadership as anything I’ve read recently. Will definitely pass this on and encourage others to do the same.
The President is a Marxist. He was a Marxist in 2008 and before. His campaign in 2008 was little more than a big lie, saying what he knew America wanted to hear, even though he, himslf, had no intention of impementing what he said he would do [Budget sessions will be on CSpan]. He had a weak opponent who could not do more than promise that he would be a good President, without any specifics. His most noticeable “accomplishment” in foreign affairs is bowing to foreign leaders which they see as subservient.
There’s a fellow higher up the comment list named Marshall. Marshall, listen. You’re wrong, on all counts, and a defeatist. One has only to google for information regarding oil reserves in the US, and one has only to use a bit of wit to brainstorm ideas on how to close the border without magic or palantiri.
We can, and just might do the things VDH suggests. Your attitude about the poor is liberal and misguided.
I have no advice for you, except to fact check your presuppositions before you take the time to screed.
Great essay Mr. Hanson. Are you sure you won’t run for office? Mayor Reed of San Jose is another of these “old school” no-nonsense guys but he says he won’t run for higher office. When good men won’t run for office, we end up with a government by the mediocre or (in Obama’s case) “leadership” from the incompetent.
If we are staying stagnant while other countries such as China are growing that detracts from our power. The conservatives in this country are happy for us to stay stagnant, and this is one of our major problems.
When the dumbed down portion of the electorate outnumber the people who actually think about the repercussions resulting from their voting decisions and who carefully assess their duty to put the right person in the right position of power, this is what we end up with. Is anyone honestly and truly surprised that people are this f*cking stupid and mindless to vote for a complete nobody who hides his past and what little of it we know of is damned shady to boot?
0bama is nothing but a symbol of the decline of the American mind. Intellect, logic and content of character be damned.
It wont matter what the country wishes to attempt, or tries or organize.
The American currency and Banking system have been slowly gutted for over 90 years, congress gave up sovereign control of economy when it handed control of the Nations central Banking system to private Banking families in 1913.
President Nixon sealed our fate by converting Gold Backed dollars to petroleum backed dollars (Giving Saudi Arabia overwhelming influence of the US Dollar) in 1971.
Since 1971, the US dollar has lost over 80% of its value. That is massive impact on international markets, and why many nations are dropping US dollar as currency to settle trade. This is going to further impact US Economy, Since in dropping the US Dollar they no longer need to maintain liquidity funds in New York exchanges. They will convert Liquidity pools to Euros, RMB, British Pounds and Japanese Yen, which is why we are seeing accelerated collapse of the US Dollar.
As far as China, the near future is the telling sign; close to 300 Million Chinese will enter the Middle class in the next 5-10 years. This will drive the Chinese economy, and convert from export driven to domestic driven economy.
Building Carrier groups..? China is building 24 Million Deadweight Tons of cargo and supertankers per year…that statistic alone should Jolt every American into reality. China is not building weapons of War, they are building a Massive economic engine and we are too ignorant to understand their strategy, or too lazy to do something about it.
The US dollar is becoming irrelevant, and that is what is dooming America to its withering fate. As always VDH outlines the symptoms perfectly, but the source of problem must be identified to fix it, and that source is evisceration of US Dollar by President Nixon and Control of US central banking by the Federal Reserve. It wont matter who is in the White House, or a political party did what to whom, the core strength of our economy has been hollowed out and sold off to European bankers and Petroleum producers.
I am looking at my calendar, trying to see when VDH will debate BHO.
That would quite a spectacle.
Well, you can wallow in it or get out there and work hard and vote this sucker out like we did in Nov 2010! Everyone seems to forget that tidbit, IT WAS HISTORIC!!! If you are counting on the establishment Republicans to get us out of this mess good luck on that. They are with Obama it seems by the way they fought Gov Palin and all the people she backed in the election. Don’t believe me look it up. The paradigm has shifted oh about a year and half ago and things will change and already have but it seems some are in a state of denial. Gov Palin has been running a shadow presidential campaign from the moment she quit being governor(one of the reasons she quit) why do you think the media has hammered her so much, it hasn’t worked though and won’t because we have her back. She went to Wisconsin and declared “Game On” and she/we mean it. If you haven’t listened/watched her speech of that day, do it and come and join her and the American people save the world, YES I SAID THE WORLD! Either way we are going do it with or without you, we would appreciate the help! God Bless America and lets roll!!! :) grrrr!
I may not agree with Obama’s philosophy but I can answer who we’re reviled by.
The European public. Also the public in all but the most oppressed countries (where we are loved by a portion of the public for being declared the enemy of their oppressor).
European leaders might secretly wish we were taking the reigns of everything, but the fact is that anti-americanism is the default in much of the world.
Hang around on European blogs and see how people talk…
It is also interesting to not that except for Germany where people still remember the Nazis, the left hates us everywhere.
Remember the stink of madness and fear that Bush inspired at Kos? Well the rest of the world felt about the same, for about the same reasons. No one was going to give Bush the benefit of the doubt, except some minority people in the middle east who were hoping for freedom.
This isn’t a judgment, it’s just a description.
Also Obama has done our reputation no end of good by
1) breaking the back of propaganda spread the world over that America is absolutely racist
2) pointing out the evident fact that the son of an immigrant, with dark skin and a Muslim name could still be accepted and elected. That proves that despite an infinite weight of malicious lies, America is the place of egalitarian ideals that we always said it was.
This does more to undermine our enemies than some wars do. We need this boost We needed this demonstration.
Take your propaganda where people are stupid enough to believe it. Hundreds of America-hating web-sites will welcome you with open arms.
proreason, you should try harder to live up to your name.
Other than Michael Totten’s site which I’ve been following since he first made it years before Pajama’s media, this is my first few days reading the other articles and blogs, and I have to say I’m struck by strange ubiquity of hysterical and judgmental proclamations which are not only totally out of proportion to any reality the odd fact that no one makes any attempt to support them, nor is anyone capable of supporting them when pressed.
A fair minded person might note that I said I didn’t agree with Obama’s approach, I was merely describing the attitudes I observe and talking about how Obama’s election fits into the preponderance of anti-American attitudes and propanganda around the world.
Welcome to PJM, It hasn’t taken you long to see the main problem here and in the internet political world in general. Keyboards and access give people a chance to ventilate immediately..and they do.
The level of over-statement is unbelievable. If people had to make these remarks in public to a group, even a small group of people, there would be some moderating effect on the conversation, but those who want or need to can just blurt the most provocative over-the-top stuff, often about Obama. The vicious blathering of the left against GWB has provided a kind of cover for vicious blather against Obama.
Some talk as if Obama really had stopped the military, surrendered to the Islamists, set up his own version of Hitler youth, intentionally undermined the economy, hates America, will refuse to permit himself to lose an election by taking over as dictator blah, blah, blah.
The redeeming point here is that a few contributors and posters know some history, or have a particular professional or business expertise, or at least can either present a coherent and POSSIBLE alternate solution or realize the need for some reason, moderation, compromise etc.
“…dictator blah, blah, blah” “blathers”. Big Time.
“The level of over-statement is unbelievable.”
Certainly D-White. Did your “over-statement” immunization fail at some point, or is the Pick It Fence But speaking in multiple Ping Pong Tongues?
Such as…
Dwight
Although Anglo-Germanic grammar can be idiosyncratic, singular subjects like system, take singular verbs. Do not be distracted by other plural elements in the sentence.
March 18, 2011 – 3:45 pm
And…
“…but those who want or need to can just blurt the most provocative over-the-top stuff, often about Obama.”
Dwight
Did he say he didn’t have a helmet? I missed that.
March 6, 2011 – 1:12 pm
“The level of over-statement is unbelievable.”
Really now D-White? How about -
52. Dwight
“Evidently, a preponderance of you guys and gals are a bunch of frantic drama queens…”
February 23, 2011 – 8:29 pm
Speaking of Drama Queenism. Alaska calls.
38. Dwight
“I am fascinated by Alaska, but not quite so much by her any more. It’s like she works at sounding like a hick. I like to hunt, explore, and do most the outdoorsy stuff, but she just gets more grating by the month, and her voice gets more shrill.”
October 20, 2010 – 5:14 am
Tongue this to the tune of The Beverly Hillbillies.
Hicks are just all right with me
As long as I can be all I want to be.
Big. It. Hick. Big. It.
Dwight
“You ask, “What is a hick? Isn’t that bigoted?” are these important questions to be answered? Do you know Holmes or someone’s definition of pornography? It also applies to hicks.”
October 20, 2010 – 9:00 am
Get it D-White? Yeah, for old times sake –
Lather was thirty years old today,
And Lather came foam from his tongue.
No, I don’t get it. Somewhere in your brain, there is evidently the belief or feeling that you are making a point, but you’d better help me out with what it is. I thought that maybe you pointing out that my verbs were not agreeing with my subjects, but it’s not that.
So better splain what your point is here, if you have one, because I’m not seeing it, old pal.
The hick-Palin thing just keeps whirling around in your brain too; you seem to believe that some “truth” is revealed each time you requote it. I thought I squeezed all the available truth out of it when I first wrote it, but you are making it virtually scriptural. Thus saith….. ;-)
“No, I don’t get it.” No kidding.
“Do you know Holmes or someone’s definition of pornography? It also applies to hicks.”
And Negroes too? And D-White too? Tu Tu?
Did you do the hillbilly assignment?
Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is…
Mr L: ““Do you know Holmes or someone’s definition of pornography? It also applies to hicks.”
And Negroes too? And D-White too? Tu Tu?
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That makes no sense if you understand Holmes’ point. But making sense is not your forte. You have this reflexive instinct for one-upsmanship, as I may as well, but yours is sufficiently fast twitch and minimalist as to mean virtually anything or nothing. Recently it has been tending toward nothing.
“Do you know Holmes or someone’s definition…”
“…or someone’s…” “…or someone’s…” “…or someone’s…”
That’s right D-White. “…or someone’s…” Anyone? Lady Gaga? Arthur Brown? “…or someone’s…” Divine!
Did you do the hillbilly assignment? It’s in Db D-White, a key you know well.
You put your eyes in your pocket
And your nose on the ground…
Do hillbillies cook stew in a pot, or do potters cook stew for Lady Gaga? Soon I will be as incoherent as you are, (sigh.)
“…or someone…”
It’s just BS.
India doesn’t hate us, by a long-shot, and neither does China. That’s half the world right there. If you imagine that Europe hates us, you are a fool. Sure, there is plenty of jealousy, and a certain amount of rivalry is to be expected. But to say that a significant % of Europe hates us is simply repeating the fever swamp propaganda of the left. The Europeans that do hate us are fever swamp leftists, like yourself. (btw, I’ve lived in Europe for seven years and Australia for another year, and have worked for years with foreigner from many countries).
Roughly similar things can be said of Africa, South America, and the rest of Asia. That leaves the Middle East, which certainly does hate the US, along with any civilization that has exceeded them in the last hundred years, which is EVERY OTHER civilization.
But hey, leftists live in a fantasy world. Just because you spell check and laugably put “scholar” in your handle doesn’t make you any less of a wack-a-doodle. I suggest you align yourself with Matthew below so you both have somebody to whine with.
RE: Europe hating us. Not the east Europeans who remember our moral support during the soviet occupation, nor the Normans who remember d-day, but definitely the left chattering classes.
Who cares if they hate us? Let’s say you hate them. Who cares?
In discussions and chats with friends and acquaintances in different parts of the world about America and the doings of the present administration this supposed disappearance of racism, with regards to your point #2, was never even broached in the analysis but when it appeared was dismissed as someone trying for a warm, fuzzy feeling.
Gaddafi’s son was killed and so were two of his grandchildren, which severely disgusted people, by Nato, which in their eyes is the US not Britain and France, but hypocritically the US leaves Assad free to slaughter hundreds.
America has an image problem partly created by the envy and jealousy generated by the “wealth” demonstrated in Hollywood movies and the incitement of dysfunctional states distracting their citizens, apart from its foreign policy.
Electing Obama has done nothing for the overall image of America as many have seen it as only window dressing.
Dr. Hanson:
“We may well decline, and pass on a weaker, more divided, more insolvent and at-risk America to our children. But that is again, entirely a choice, not a fate.”
Do you not agree that the choice has already been made? Do you know a way to unseat the Marxist Regime that took over the United States Government in 2008?
It seems quite likely that fate stared down choice. I believe it did. The ruling class is determined to take us all down for the sake of power and money.
I deeply regret that you were not willing to speak out forcefully, and truthfully, in seeking the nomination for President in 2012 so that there would have been a choice, not another echo in the play I’ve now seen 18, going on 19 times. Jimmy Carter carried it off, you might have been able to do the same.
["All that said, decline is far more often a choice, not a preordained destiny."]
["All that said, decline is far more often a choice, not a preordained destiny."]
First, it is rather impossible to compare historical governments and societies to that of the American form of democracy and capitalism.
However, it is factual to state that “….decline is far more often a choice, not a preordained destiny” when analyzing the obvious ‘decline’ in America leading up to the present times.
The bonding fabric of traditional America was destroyed giving birth to a myraid of destructive social and political factors over the past several decades. Furthermore, when a nations constitution gives to the people, the ultimate power and authority over its government and social being, all failures and decline rest squarely upon the shoulders of the people for the destiny of its nation.
The decline of America has been and remains from the bottom up….not the top down!
And Happy May Day to all ~~~ !!!
Mr. Hanson, another great analaysis!
I dearly hope the US will soar again (and I’m an Australian, not an American).
But please take VDH’s warning about Athens to heart: there was no need for Athens to fail, but it did anyway.
Some have said, ‘VDH for president’. Not me. I say, ‘VDH for presidential speech writer.’
25. Bill, re: ” I’d be curious to hear VDH’s opinion of the fast track to citizenship via military service. Should we be relying on foreign born souls to fight our wars?”
In my opinion, Bill, a nation that has to rely upon foreigners to staff its military is in dire shape, examples of the French Foreign Legion notwithstanding. Again and again, Americans have proven their ability to rise to the challenge of defending America when she is truly threatened. That’s the rub, isn’t it? Many parents, teachers and others who would have once recommended military service to their teenaged children today tell them not to join.
The reasons are many. For people with traditional values, it the rampant political correctness evident in the military, c.f. overturning DADT, forcing women into combat roles and other traditionally male areas of the armed forces, and the ridiculous ROEs forced upon our soldiers by an overlawyered society. Others, on the far left politically, have never respected the armed forces, and so do not steer their children into it. Many Americans of the “silent majority” see the corruption and fecklessness of their political leadership, and its willingness to expend the lives of our sons and daughters so thoughtlessly and callously on unnecessary wars, and thus do their best to channel their children into other pursuits.
One other issue, near and dear to many members of the GOP and libertarian parties, is in play: the AVF structure. We fought and won WWII with a largely conscript army, and won the Cold War largely on the same terms. The AVF has been unable to attract a large-enough segment of young men into its ranks, and thus has turned to young women. As the military has feminized, fewer hard-charging young men are attracted to it and a vicioous cycle ensues. Like it or not, warfare has always been a male pursuit, regardless of what the feminists say. To the extent that we allow female values to govern our armed forces, we risk alienating the population most necessary to sustaining our forces – that of young, heterosexual males. The “bad money” does indeed drive out the good, only it isn’t money we’re talking about but people. History shows that as a give occupation or field feminizes or admits more women, it drops in prestige for men – especially young men. Proponents of the AVF need to face that incovenient truth and deal with it constructively.
Let me close with a question: what does it say about a nation when its men refuse to defend it? We should all honor American women who step forward to serve, but as long as men in large numbers are required to win wars, it is to men we need to appeal. Of course, some men still step forward to defend America, but not nearly as many as in years past. That fact should trouble anyone interested in our collective security. This is a problem urgently in need of a real solution, not half-baked ideas like the foreign legion.
what does it say about a nation when its men refuse to defend it?
IMHO, you have 1940 France, 1949 Nationalist China, 1975 South Vietnam, among others. None of those ended well.
The notion of “leading from behind” reminds me of nothing so much as the Noble Duke of Plaza-Toro from Gilbert & Sullivan’s “The Gondoliers”"
In enterprise of martial kind,
When the was any fighting
He led his regiment from behind,
He found it less exciting.
But when his regiment ran away they ran,
his place was at the fore-O!
A nice dream, Mr. Hanson, but your article proceeds upon a false premise–that there is a “we” and that “our” interests are shared. In fact, the country is sharply divided into “us” and “them.” The Left is populated by progressives invested in big-Government, unionized public-sector employees, “oppressed” minorities and beneficiaries of public largesse, all of whom have too much skin in the game to change without a fight such as we recently saw in Wisconsin. The “poor” driving Kias and living in homes with no ocean view have their resentments further inflamed every day by a ruling class quick to remind them that the wealth possessed by others came unfairly from their plate. If you look in the rear-view mirror, you will see that we have already turned the corner. If you look ahead, the road signs all say “One Way.”
The May 10 [2010] edition of the Harvard Business Review includes a post titled “Leading From Behind,” about the impact of today’s economy on leadership styles. Author Linda Hill notes that today’s successful leaders are those who are skilled at “harnessing people’s collective genius.”
I find it hard to believe that a President, who managed not to ever meet individually with some of his Cabinet members during his first two years, is worried about harnessing their collective genius.
run. run for gov. run for pres.
if not, be on the guy who runs speed dial.
Was this “lead from behind” buzzphrase put out by the administration on purpose, as a head fake to the conservatives? They pounced on it (as well they should have), but now with Sunday night’s announcement on bin Laden, is all that “leading from behind” washed away?
I am glad he gave the order. He was compelled to of course, as the man ultimately responsible for our security, using the ongoing intelligence and operations put in place by GWB. Call me cynical, but this decisiveness comes a little too close on the heels of the lead from behind stuff.
The good articles keep coming and I enjoy each and every one of them. Kudos!
The U.S. is an exceptional country. Any country that can bounce back from the damage caused by Lyndon Johnson or James Earl Carter is a strong country!
We shall survive the incompetence of this band too. I only wish the American electorate would learn something from past mistakes AND that those in the Conservative side would learn to live by their own principles.
Thank you Mr. Hanson for real hope.
BTW: a million dollars does not buy you much in Abbottabad, doesn’t it?
Dr. Hanson,
Too late. ..at least for California. It is too large to overcome —-See…mass illegal immigration, quotas, govt unions and salaries and pensions, enviromantalist thieves,crooks and wimps in legislature, hippie governor, mass exodus of college grads, , overtaxed with hikes coming perpetually, property, gas food prices too high, two-teired society, more secular (less rules and morals), leftist run education and all forms of governments, Labor unions buy politicians, massive massive waste and fraud in social programs, massive massive waste and fraud in purchasing, leftist judges, ..on and on ..it was voluntary and it was done by the hippie baby boomer white folks. Good old middle class world war two babies…mostly lapsed protestants and catholics. Sad…I’ll wager millions I am right.
Here it is, folks: direct, simple, eloquent as always. It’s PERFECT!
This is one of the best and most comprehensive descriptions of where we are and what can (read: “should”) be done to put us back on the right track. It only takes a few paragraphs, not endless impermeable mumbo-jumbo in embarrassing news conferences, or obscure columns nobody wants to wade through, or two-minute scream fests on cable news shows where no one can articulate a real thought without being shouted over.
Even the Republicans should be able to understand it.
Poor is always a relative term. I know quite a few people that are “ooff” the credit system and have no debt. Once this is acheived, it is very easy to live on $25,000 a year. Besides, what is better than living below the tax level, having no debt, and being relatively impervious to a failing economy?
Cyber, how do I get “off” the credit system? I have a lot of debt that I could never pay…
But what more oft in Nations grown corrupt,
And by their vices brought to servitude,
Than to love Bondage more than Liberty,
Bondage with ease than strenuous liberty;
–John Milton, Samson Agonistes, 1671
Dr. Hanson, watch out for Brazil!
I’m just kidding, but… i’m curious to know, you being a farmer, about your opinion on Brazil’s agricultural sucess.
Credit card etc debt ensures America has a supplement to the less skilled/brain drain labor from illegal immigrants , adding to the slavery that keeps the unsavory work done.
Addictions including to shopping will continually drain the greatest economy while syphoning the money to the nouvous riche beyond the reach of taxation. That makes it hard to redistribute!
Also the objectors to President Obama’s health reforms do not want to pay for the degenerating health-wealth of that.
Unfortunately, it will be easier for the new aristocracy to end up with the “storming of the Bastille” situation in time. What goes up comes down in the cycle… so the rest of the world can wait.
I actually have an answer to your last paragraph, why Germany did so much better than England. Some 40 years ago I was in the colonies importing packaging materials from Europe. I was visiting a potential British supplier, I had to say sorry, I can’t buy this stuff, not only is the quality worse than the German, it is a lot more expensive. At the time wages in Germany were a lot higher so I asked what could possibly explain these differences. I was told the major difference was the German’s luck in having their factories bombed to hell, they could start fresh using everything they learned before. The British still had some prewar machinery and an early 20th century factory lay-out. The other factor was an absolutely bloody intransigent union.
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