Obamania—as in craziness, not craze
A Fair and Balanced Paradox
The contention is not that the media shouldn’t investigate Palin, but whether they are doing it in the manner, spirit, and level of intensity that they likewise explore Biden (and Obama).
So far that is simply not the case. And the voters know that. And it is hurting Obama’s efforts as the polls show. A weird paradox arises: the more the elite media wish to aid Obama, the more their bias and invective seem to turn off voters and help McCain—and the more they in turn redouble their anger, as if more smears and furor, not fewer, are the answer. Strange to say, they don’t seem to get it that they are, well, not liked or respected.
If one thinks I exaggerate, then cf. the latest concerning the Atlantic Monthly, a creepy story that few would believe.
No Foreign Policy Experience?
That, of course, is the charge against Palin, and it is a legitimate consideration. But as an executive of a key state, I trust her administrative skills and experience will ensure she is surrounded with policy wonks, in the way that other Governor-VP picks were in the past.
Other thoughts: I am far more worried about the top, not the bottom, of a presidential ticket. Barack Obama has no foreign policy experience whatsoever, as we have seen in his historically inaccurate and silly speech at Berlin, his flips on Jerusalem, Iran, and the surge, as well as his confusion over Georgia (go to the UN, both sides are to blame, Iraq was the Russian model, etc.) and NAFTA.
Joe Biden claims to know the world as a long-time Senate insider; but that tenure seems to have had almost no positive effects in honing his judgments—inasmuch after 9/11 he wanted to send millions to Iran as a good will gesture. He talked in 2003 in saber-rattling fashion about going to Iraq, only to abandon his war support when it was politically advantageous—but not until loudly advocating a trisection of the country into permanently warring rival fiefdoms. His candidacy thus far has been a daily gaffethon.
McCain and the Press
The liberal press, which is the mainstream press (NY Times, DC Post, NPR, PBS, ABC, NBC, CBS, Time, Newsweek, MSNBC, CNN, etc.), hates McCain.
Why? They claim he has “changed” and no longer is his old maverick self that they used to josh with and kid around with on the straight-talk express. But in truth, they only flirted with him in 2000 for two reasons: (1) he was going to lose to George Bush; (2) he wasn’t George Bush. In their eyes, he was a useful foil. Period.
And now? He (1) could well win; (2) and could well win by defeating their once-in-a-lifetime heartthrob, Barack Obama.
So suddenly he “lies”, is a “liar”, and a “disgrace”.
Issues, What Issues?
For all the talk from the Obama campaign about issues, rather than personalities, I think the McCain positions resonate more with the voters. Here’s my take on “issues”, and hope they will be soon discussed rather than McCain’s keyboard expertise, or Obama’s sex-education programs.
1. Foreign policy. Note that Obama on Iran, the surge, Georgia, Afghanistan, Israel, free trade, and drilling has moved more to McCain’s position. I can’t think of a single instance where McCain emulated Obama, whose main argument seems to be more deference to the UN, “restoration of ties with allies”, and more multilateralism.
But he doesn’t seem to score points here, at least in 2008, when our bilateral ties with the UK, Germany, France, Italy, India, China, etc. are not suffering all that much. Iraq is now on the backburner—given that far more Americans are killed each week in Detroit or Los Angeles than in Iraq.
Note that whereas a year ago Edwards and Obama were demanding apologies from Hillary for supporting the war, now Obama is vulnerable on having advocated a total withdrawal from Iraq by March 2008—de facto defeat when victory is now in the grasp of the elected Iraqi government. Things can change instantaneously, but right now foreign policy is all McCain’s.
2. Energy. McCain should drop opposition to ANWR and give credit for that change to Palin. Note again—Obama’s emphasis on wind and solar is a de facto (hard to tell given his shifts) neglect of more drilling, more refineries, clean coal, and nuclear. McCain can argue he is as strong on wind and solar as Obama is as weak on gas, oil, coal, and nuclear—and thus the only holistic candidate for doing everything we can to avoid going broke.
3. Spending. Both candidates are murky. We either have to raise taxes or cut spending or both—or insidiously see our financial position erode. Raising taxes and raising spending seem to be more the Obama approach that will either raise or keep static the current deficits. We don’t know the details of all of the McCain platform (cut or not cut more taxes?), but it seems to be at least to cut spending and hope the economy grows itself out of a deficit without raising taxes. The latter would resonate more with voters, though who knows once entitlements are capped and there are no new gifts? We await the candidate who promises that archaic notion of a balanced budget first, and worries about the rest later.
Note that drilling would add billions in federal revenues, cut trade deficits and helping to restore the dollar’s strength by curbing US demand on world supplies.
4. Illegal immigration. Both seem to talk of “comprehensive reform”, but are relatively quiet now, and hoping the sudden Bush switch to building a fence, fining more employers, and hiring more guards have cut down illegal entries, and thus will by attrition make the contentious issues (where both are at odds with the public) like amnesty, guest workers, and fines moot — once the influx tapers and the powers of integration, smaller numbers, and voluntary deportation began to come into play. Better enforcement may explain why the issue is growing dormant compared to energy and foreign policy.
5. Cultural issues. There is a sort of schizophrenia here with voters. They don’t want late-term abortions, but seem not to wish to outlaw abortion entirely. They want the death penalty, but then wish to abolish it entirely any time a state executes on even a single occasion someone of questionable guilt or mental capacity. They don’t much care what you do in your own bedroom, but don’t want gay marriage; they oppose biases, but don’t want affirmative action. They want tougher sentences and tougher judges, but no more costly prisons and politically-wired guard unions. McCain here again seems better positioned, and more likely not to have political crazies on the fringe than does Obama, whose hard-left he has courted even more than McCain has the hard right.
With Friends Like These
One thing that is losing voters for Obama and (is ignored) is the growing public anger at celebrities and media elites. McCain has no worries that a sober Clint Eastwood or respected Robert Duvall will say something stupid about Obama. But daily a Matt Damon, Pamela Anderson, Sean Penn, or Richard Dreyfuss will mouth off in a way that reveals arrogance, viciousness and stupidity, and turn the public against whatever they are for.
Ditto the media. A Limbaugh has his own show and a particular audience; a Hannity on TV is balanced by Colmes. But a Chris Matthews, Anderson Cooper, or Keith Olbermann assumes the veneer of a newsperson, and so the bias for the viewer is harder to take.
So far a George Will, David Brooks, or Charles Krauthammer has analyzed, often in tough fashion, the campaign rather than demonized Obama; a Paul Krugman, Maureen Dowd, or Bob Herbert are overtly partisan, and often amateurishly and embarrassingly so. And when one throws in the fringe, witless crowd like Michael Moore (nuff said), Andrew Sullivan (recently peddling rumors that Palin’s daughter delivered her Down Syndrome child), and Randi Rhodes (Palin a sexual threat to teen-aged boys), Obama, fairly or unfairly, suffers by guilt through association with the supportive unhinged as well.
Some of the McCain surge is surely due to the public’s weariness with the New York Times, MSNBC, CNN, and the nut-blogs—all brought to their attention, with editorializing, by widely visited conservative outlets like Limbaugh, Hannety, Fox, Drudge, etc. So another paradox: the elite media suffers both ways. It has lost respect from the public; but its sensationalist charges don’t always result in more sales or attention, since many of the public likely learns, second-hand, of their bias and extremism through Drudge, National Review, PJ Media, Limbaugh, and the regional talk radio stations.
The Old Fish
After all the liberal lectures about bias, racism, sexism, and the other assorted –isms, we are down to one desperate last card: McCain is too old, and by extension so are most over 70, given that McCain is more active than most his age.
Thus we hear him compared to an old stinky fish. It’s not that he doesn’t know how many houses he has, but doesn’t “any more” —as if his memory is now shot. He can’t do email or the Internet (never mind the effects of five-years plus of physical torture). He is “confused” and “angry”.
This is rather strange for a reform candidate like Obama, and ultimately counterproductive as well. Consider that we were warned that anti-Obama forces would use race. None in the McCain campaign so far have. Though Obama himself surely did, via associates like Wright and Pfleger, though his own preemptive warnings about his name, religion, and race, and through his media surrogates who screeched that his failure would mean we were racists and disgraced in the eyes of the world.
But again examine: sexism? Hillary sure thought Obama played the sexist card. We see it again with Palin. How many have asked Obama whether he has tucked his two children in at night; or have gone after Joe Biden’s wife; or have ridiculed Biden’s hair (a bee-hive surely is preferable to hair plugs for most in the fashion world)?
So here we have an anomaly: the candidate that we were warned would be victimized by racial hatred has quite insidiously waged a campaign that plays on fears of women and old people. Again, voters are not stupid and that hypocrisy in part explains the current Obama slide. If one were to examine the mysterious Illinois Senate race of 2004, in which both the Democratic and Republican challengers, Blair Hull and Jack Ryan, in the respective primary and general elections fell victim to a weird concentrated rumor campaign, spurred on by anonymous sources and the Chicago newspapers, about their sealed divorce records, resulting in their withdrawals and a walk-in win for Obama, one would not be surprised that “hope and change” needs to be qualified by Chicago politics.
Casting the first stone…
I was reading this in the recent column of Bob Herbert in the New York Times:
“While watching the Sarah Palin interview with Charlie Gibson Thursday night, and the coverage of the Palin phenomenon in general, I’ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might actually prevail.”…. “John McCain, who is shameless about promoting himself as America’s ultimate patriot, put the best interests of the nation aside in making his incredibly reckless choice of a running mate. But there is a profound double standard in this country. The likes of John McCain and George W. Bush can do the craziest, most irresponsible things imaginable, and it only seems to help them politically.”
But wait! I remember this Mr. Herbert, who on television showed his own degree of erudition, intelligence, and common sense by assuring his audience that a McCain ad film clip of Obama addressing thousands before the Victory Column in Berlin was really a snippet, yes, of the Washington Monument and the Leaning Tower of Pisa! And why did Herbert confuse these easily distinguished towers? To “prove” the point that McCain was peddling phallic imagery to tie Obama with white women through supposedly taboo liaisons. And so goes the New York Times commentary on a gutsy Governor handling the slanted questioning of Charlie Gibson.
This is not the exception. It is striking how many critics of Palin, whether in politics such as Joe Biden, or in journalism such as Joe Klein, have themselves demonstrated in the past poor judgment, a lack of intellectual honesty, and have been caught in false assertions—and yet nearly weekly are offering sweeping denunciations of Palin.
Imagine
I posted a longer version of this on the NRO corner:
To understand John McCain participating in a live-audience forum at Columbia University, Obama’s alma mater, and being interviewed by Time editor Richard Stengel (formerly Bill Bradley’s campaign adviser and speechwriter) and PBS correspondent Judy Woodruff (married to Al Hunt), and answering questions on how the government should expand public service agencies, imagine Barack Obama going to West Point before an audience of cadets, to be interviewed by serious-thinking Michael Gerson and a circumspect George Will, on US defense strategy and the military. Both are perfectly legitimate enterprises and have merit, but the latter would be immediately deemed by the left as disproportionate. This, and the Gibson missteps in the Palin interview, are the apparently unconscious and highbrow versions of CNN/MSNBC.
Corrections and Replies
Thanks to readers for spotting the date concerning the Carter mistake. I wrote correctly in two columns that we haven’t had a Democratic ticket without a lawyer (if one counts Al Gore who dropped out of law school) for a quarter-century, but a third time in reply to critics wrongly wrote since 1976—thus incorrectly not including the farmer Carter’s second run in 1980, the last time someone on the Democratic ticket had not been to law school.
Next time I will reply to the usual weekly critics, this time on the right, Dinesh D’Souza, and the left (?) Michael Scheuer.







Sullivan, with his Bernie Ward logic, is now arguing that McPalin have moved toward Senator “Pettigrew” Obama’s positins on foreign policy.
Accusing McCain of being a liar is pathetic. All politicians shade the truth to some degree. Campaign ads are not held to some absolute standard of truthfulness, and no one I know makes their decisions based on them.
Accusing McCain of being dishonorable is a worse charge, floated both by some in the media and Campaign Obama. This is surely a poor attempt to irk McCain enough that he blows his cool. Not likely to happen. Why spoil a good thing. He duped the media and the Left into going ballistic over Sarah Palin. Now they look like the ones with an anger management problem.
Speaking of dupes, Charlie Gibson was a good choice for Palin’s first interview. That question on the Bush Doctrine or doctrine really brought out his pompous/pedantic side. Clearly, the first order of business in the VP debate should be to have Joe Biden explain his conception of the Bush doctrine and critique it. By the time he’s done, the program will either be over, or we’ll all be asleep and it won’t matter. Of course, that assumes Biden’s still on the ticket in Oct.
Palin did OK. Once she has a better grounding in national security/international affairs she’ll be able to hold her own.
How do you spot a soldier of the far left, the radical left, in the city of Chicago? How many years does it take for such a soldier to earn his “chops” in this organization? Where does he go after he’s been on the streets getting his credo and ticket punched?
What kind of person starts out in this game and why? Do those with whom he works and shares his thoughts have any impact on this person? Does this person end up “owing” these people? If so, how do they get repaid?
If one “plugs into” the government channel of disbursing monies, how much does he take for his “services” for arranging deals?
How did “lobbyists” come into being? Do they perform a necessary function on behalf of those who seek communication with elected officials? What makes them so “evil” in the minds of their attackers? Why have they survived for so many generations?
Seems to me the women of our Democratic presidential candidates have disappeared from the media stage…why?
Will these forthcoming “debates” be really nothing more than preplanned ambushes where our media will agitate in order to “expose” who they think is evil, as opposed to providing an arena where we viewers can learn substantive facts about the candidates?
Does our media “lobby” for themselves or for others…or for us, the viewers?
Is the change we want really a statement about narcissism? Is that why ABC’s Charlie Gibson wore those glasses in contrast to candidate Palin’s during interview part one?
Were the Coen brothers on to something about politics when they directed “Oh Brother…” or was this movie not meant to be a mirror?
Could it be that this election is really all about the dynamic relationship between men and women, a long and drawn out argument about how we’re to get along?
Look at all those candidates who were thrown off the stage: Do you recall the reasons?
Did I hear that the group known as “white males” might be the deciding factor in who wins? How big is the group “hockey moms” or is it really the “ligstick” women who are being sought for their votes?
Warrior versus the lawyer (talker). The pen versus the sword: Another old question being argued, right?
Some things never change, only the players do.
I don’t get it. The mere selection of Sarah Palin for the number two position on the Republican ticket is being blamed for re-igniting the culture wars. It’s not like the nomination of the most liberal Democratic candidate in decades had anything to do with this, right? Liberalism is a hodge-podge of disparate groups with different agendas (secularism, feminism, racism, etc), with nothing intrinsically in common with each other. The glue that holds it all together as a political philosophy is, supposedly, a more refined, more modern, more intellectual approach to governing society. Odd that, in this election, the binding force holding Liberals together is taking on the appearance of anger, irrationality, and more recently fear. If Obama loses, we may get to see how our intellectual superiors hold their coalition together, after they’ve all gone stark raving mad.
Biden, Biden….who is this Biden fellow?
Frankly I could care less about your critics. I would rather hear more of your own thoughts than have to wade through theirs.
PJM has covered — even unto this morning — how the press has dropped the pretense of objectivity. The MSM is almost amazed when a Republican wins, given its coverage, the books, the films, rumors and gotchas the candidate has to face. (Doc has written about this.) So if the Republican still manages to win by one vote, it should not be thought of as a “close” election.
I am shocked by how early the excuse machine of the Left is being warmed up. The Republicans are telling lies, not playing fair, scamming all those bitter rubes in the Heartland to vote against their own interests once again. The invisible hand of Darth Rove is at work, because McCain is too feeble, Palin too much of an airhead to design the treachery. I almost lost bladder control when I saw that Maureen Dowd is writing from Alaska. What insights is she going to gain into the mystery of Sarah Palin by travelling to her home state? She must think her credibility is lacking when she pens her screeds from the remote comfort of Manhattan. Gee, you think so?
Professor Hanson:
Once again, thank you. Your comments are always perceptive and pertinent.
“The contention is not that the media shouldn’t investigate Palin, but whether they are doing it in the manner, spirit, and level of intensity that they likewise explore Biden (and Obama).”,/I> (Dr. Hanson)
I look on the thousands of reporters, journalists, column writers, and stars of our media industry massively invading Alaska, scouring the waste buckets of Wasilla, interviewing the Palin family vet and her ex-boyfriend from 8th grade, as the equivalent of the paratroopers going in behind enemy lines on D-Day to liberate Europe. As we gave our best and brightest on that day (altough I am a violent pacifist and am against all military operations on principle) our nation’s best and brightest minds are desperately trying to save our nation from more years of Republican lies, hypocrisy, and manipulation by digging up anything they can find and putting Palin in a bad light. Some, like the daring Atlantic photographer Greenberg, have even risked their reputations and careers in this heroic crusade to destroy the enemies of earth, progressive social policies, economic justice, and planetary harmonic convergeance.
I just wanted to add to your excellant analysis that plain civility has been butchered by some of the hard core left in the MSM and the Democratic party.
Yesterday, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was on face the nation together with three other female politicians to discuss Palin.
Ms Wasserman Schultz said about Palin “she doesn’t know anything”. The moderator was visibly surprised and tried to get her to refine that statement or narrow it to a specific area of expertise, but Ms Wasserman just repeated that line again.
This may be appropriate for the first grade, but this is not suitable discourse for our democracy, no matter who is the subject of the opinion.
Ms Wasserman-Schultz does not know anthing about civility in public discourse.
Just nitpicks: Hannity with an “i” and Colmes, not Combs.
Otherwise, perfect.
Not when the bee-hive belongs to a Republican. They wouldn’t care if Biden had lime-green shag carpet stapled to his head…you’d never hear a bad word.
they oppose biases, AND don’t want affirmative action.
Fixed that for ya, Doc.
Question: Are you on this blog in agreement with Carly Fiorina that the SNL skit was “sexist” and “dismissive”?
Dan Smith said:
“I saw that Maureen Dowd is writing from Alaska. What insights is she going to gain into the mystery of Sarah Palin by travelling to her home state? She must think her credibility is lacking when she pens her screeds from the remote comfort of Manhattan.”
Poor Maureen can’t get a man, as she has written or rather whined about. She probably figured that in Alaska where men outnumber women 7 to 1 she’d do better.
I can’t believe that with her Procrustean use of literature, seeing the wysiwyg WASP Bush family as either Shakespearean or Oedipal she hasn’t read the introductory essay by George Bernard Shaw to PYGMALION or Tom Wolfe’s HONKS AND WONKS — and hired a dialect coach.
Dowd came heralded by Tim Russert and Charlie Rose and then she opened her mouth, that very lower-class accent made me laugh.
She’s also seen way too many Bette Davis movies.
A note: I HATE it when VDH or any one on our side gives advice to the Obamamaniacs, lest they take it and win, but in Dowd’s case, correcting that lower-class accent and Bette Davis persona won’t get her elected to anything where she can do harm and might improve her general mood.
I’m pretty sure the last time the Dems ran two non-lawyers was 1964.
1968- Muskie, 1972 both Shriver & Eagleton, 1976,1980,1984 Mondale,Ferraro, 1988 Dukakis,1992,1994,Clinton, 2000, Lieberman,2004 Kerry, Edwards.
A minor quibble, I know, but it is significant that the Democratic party has become the party of the tort industry.
The GOP? Last lawyer was Dole, last all-lawyer ticket? Ford/Dole.
Boy, I’m proud to be a Republican.
Schnargley,
Your heroic and daring paratroopers on the left are “desperately trying to save our nation from” truth, reason, and an honest assessment of history as it relates to the present day. That they are willing to distort truth, reason and and honest assessment of history to do this would be delightfully ironic, if it were not so sad.
“avoidswork” 12:57pm – I “on this blog” think both the SNL skit and you are very good jokes.
Care to keep on topic, “sweetie”*?! [* copyright, Zerobama-'08]
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VDH: the “Imagine” paragraph was most enjoyable! If only such “perspective” were voiced to effect a change for the sanity of these days…(sigh).
Dear Mr Hanson,
Regarding Obama’s ridicule of McCain’s not using computers, some time ago, Mayor Daley (Chicago) said that he did not use computers. I don’t remember whether this was on TV or in the Chicago Tribune, but I got the distinct impression that Daley thought use of computers was for underlings. He being Obama’s cheerleader or mentor or whatever, this was not very politically astute of Obama to rag on McCain for this.
No President uses computers….it is a huge security risk…the same reason they do not use blackberrys. However, Obama in his normal stupidity, overlooks serious injuries that prevent McCain from using a computer. It does not mean he lacks “tech” knowledge or savvy….quite the contrary; he is probably one of the more “computer literate” people in Washington. And, that is a proven fact! Obama is an empty suit….IDIOT.
weird paradox arises: the more the elite media wish to aid Obama, the more their bias and invective seem to turn off voters and help McCain—and the more they in turn redouble their anger, as if more smears and furor, not fewer, are the answer.
Insanity: The belief that someone can get different results by doing the same thing.” -Albert Einstein
By that definition, the MSM and the radical left (but I repeat myself) are insane.
Good ‘ole shnargley, every article needs at least one mentally deficient commentator, and as always, you comply promptly.
Might I add that the disparate groups are bound together with a common, irrational loathing of anything and anyone that they do not agree with, in particular, conservatives and conservatism?
“the more the elite media wish to aid Obama, the more their bias and invective seem to turn off voters and help McCain”
This has become something like the conservative conventional wisdom lately and I think it is profoundly false. More specifically, I do not believe that it is at all true that the media are doing Obama more harm than good.
The more accurate way to state this is that the media is giving Obama a massive boost; it just may not be enough to win the election outright. If Barack Obama had an “R” beside his name, and the deep and radical associations that he clearly has, not only would he not win the presidency, his political career seeking any high office would be over.
So I believe conservative writers make a serious mistake in evaluating the media role for Obama by starting with a baseline of: “will Obama win the presidency with media help?” They see that he may not win the presidency and erroneously conclude that the media is not helping and may actually be hurting him.
Try adjusting your baseline to one that I think is more accurate: “Obama’s career would be over without massive media assistance and cover” and then compare this baseline to the reality that Obama is only a couple of points behind in polls for the highest office in the land. Changing the standard of comparison changes your perception on whether the media is helping or not.
Aren’t these the same journalists with the plummeting ratings and low subscriptions. When 69% of Americans think the MSM is in the tank for Obama, what credibility do they have?
They could make significant inquiries on Palin. Even as a an enthusiastic supporter of the Republican ticket I have some questions and reservations. But, instead the MSM is running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Thank goodness they are helping their golden boy lose. Nobama!
Someone brought up the “Bush Doctrine” controvesy in the Palin intrerview.
FYI, Ann-Marie Slaughter, Dean of the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs (Princeton University)responded “Tell me what you mean by ‘The Bush Doctrine’” when asked the same question. Here is the link: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDliOWIxOTQxNmM0N2IxODkzNzcxOGEwYTQ5OTZlZDA=
Oh, here we go again with the “liberals are crazy” nonsense. Such maturity…
Don’t worry, right-wingers. I don’t think you’re crazy. I just think you’re wrong.
Ed, while I may be a female, please do not ever “sweetie” me again. We do not know each other and I do not grant you that license. And it is condescending.
Granted, it is easier to think of me as a joke than as a person with an opinion who does not think that the above laundry list accurately portrays your fave POW candidate. Who thinks that your POW is so out of touch with reality, surrounded by his lobbyists and advisors (the same types of people he says Washington needs to reform from), and who picked a VP after barely meeting with her. Who thinks that your VP is the female version of GWB: cocky, incurious and dangerous for American policy and practice.
the leftist brigade was always a fringe of the democratic party, which was liberal not leftist. republicans have a hard time differentiating, but i was a democrat all my adult life, and born to it, as my parents were FDR democrats, so i do know the difference. it is the reason i am a staunch supporter of mccain-palin. nothing and no one is more horrifying than these extreme leftists. they hate america, would like to take it down, and have love fests with whomever also spews the same garbage. they are also anti-zionist and anti-semitic (the same thing), even those who are jews themselves are psychotically anti-semitic. i like sarah palin, and i have no problem with john mccain, whose record in the senate proves his bi-partisan agenda. from the outset, i was sickened by the way in which barry obama, nothing more than a chicago pol from the daley machine, was taken up by cnn and the other cable news stations, manufacturing this diety that bore no relation to the actual bizarre nature of barry obama’s candidacy. it has been and still is, of course, a terrible time. his black separatist agenda and agitating for racial strife i notice, has been set aside as if it never happened. just like obama’s alliances, which includes islamic fascists as well as terrorists, america haters, and even a slumlord, would under any other circumstances make him laughingly unfit to run for any office, unless it was the panthers or the kkk.
A while back I scolded my stepdaughter, a journalist at NBC News, that seeing as how she had a Masters degree from Columbia she should quit spouting assumptions and search out the facts. But that is the essence of modern journalisn. I suppose it never occurred to them that Palin, who minored in political science, might be keeping up with things outside of Alaska, might even have read some history. I’m a long haul truck driver but I find myself better informed than most journalists, pundits and politicians. Around 1984, the late great writer Frank Herbert celebrated the fact that personal computer use had spread so fast that governments had lost the chance to restrict their use. He saw it as a great benefit for freedom and democracy. How right he was and that was before the internet.
Dear “avoidswork:” SURELY you must know that THAT is what Obama called a reporter – for your urgent and necessary information, a female reporter – in explaining that he didn’t have time to give an interview.
Or…doesn’t that “count”…because The Messiah said it?!
Lighten up, or please seek your embittered, indignant resentment-venting elsewhere!
I mean, doesn’t the image of “Barack Obama going to West Point before an audience of cadets, to be interviewed by serious-thinking Michael Gerson and a circumspect George Will, on US defense strategy and the military” even give you a [insert reference to avoid further sanctimony] Chris Matthews’ “tingle up your leg”?!
I just LOVED that part of VDH’s article!
Obama can call a report whatever he wants in whatever context he wants. Whether you meant an Obama riff or not is beside the point:
I was addressing YOU calling ME “sweetie.” I mean, I don’t see you calling any other female on this thread “sweetie”…
However, if you wanted to call me a trollop or c**t like your candidate called his wife, well then…
I called YOU out. Not Obama (not one of his finer “endearments”).
I specifically asked YOU not to call me “sweetie.”
Skin is thick enough.
But for a board spewing “sexism” against PALIN, you aren’t doing yourself a favor now are you?
Heck, but I guess “sweetie” would be welcome compared to what mccain has called his wife publically.
You know, the Tr**lop word. Or what about the offensive four-letter “c” word?
Yes, we need more domestic oil production, but that has nothing to do with refineries. There’s no shortage of refining capacity. We don’t need to “build more refineries”, with current utilization running in the 80-85% range. That’s like saying that if we build more gas stations, that’ll somehow bring the price of gas down.
There may be specific locations (i.e. California) where the ability to expand refineries is limited by activism, but nationally, there’s plenty of capacity. Yes, we haven’t built any new ones in decades. But the existing ones have been expanded significantly. And with the capital markets melting down, I don’t think anyone wants to finance something that’s not really in demand like that.
Wizard…You could have made your point without calling BHO stupid and an idiot. Your post says it what is required. But as much disdain as I have for him he is not stupid or an idiot. Sorry.
avoidswork:
Sep 15, 2008 – 3:36 pm
One bad remark by McCain is remmbered forever. 20 years of Obama attending the church of hate, claiming the lead hater was his spiritual mentor, and titling one of his biographies on a lecture of his is down the memory hole.
We have heard the screeches of the nutrooots and the vile attacks of the MSM, your petty comments are nothing.
solomonpal, the remarks that Obama made that Wizard refers to most certainly do qualify as stupid and idiotic. Do you really think this faux flap over email is a sign of a brilliant mind? It’s not even the sign of a competent political tactician. Obama may be smart at something, but I sure haven’t seen any evidence of what.
The more research I do on Obama the worse it gets. I know politics in general are dirty and I’ve heard that Chicago politics are even worse, but since I’ve started looking more into Obama’s record, I wasn’t aware of how dirty they really are. The “Chicago machine” would be hard for any politician in Chicago to avoid, but if Obama is really an advocate for change, as he claims, he really took the wrong path to convince me that he would operate differently. Obama’s dealings whether as a legislator, community organizer (modeled after Saul Alinsky) or just a plain citizen is highly suspect to me, from Tony Rezko, William Ayers, ACORN, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Emil Jones, John Stroger, Richard Daley and Alice Palmer (who Obama got kicked off the ballot to get elected), all these associations and deeds are indications of a very slick and corrupt politician. I’ve done a lot of reading of independent writers and investigative reporters (primarily Chicago reporters, or Cook County papers) and the information I’m finding leads me to believe that Obama doesn’t have good judgment to make good decisions.
The economy and national security are my top two issues and from my very well informed opinion, I just trust John McCain more than I do Obama, Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid. I think a McCain presidency has a better shot at keeping me safe, allowing me to keep more of my money and giving me more of an opportunity to find employment in a free market economy.
I completely agree with “Hugh Bris” that from all sides the media has completely quit trying to appear unpartisan in their approaches to coverage. While Palin is strictly targeted for everything from her family life to decisions she made while on city council, I imagine that had Clinton been slated for VP on the Dems side, similar ‘observations’ would (and have) been made.
The issues need to be more focused in the media: energy, immigration, spending…but we all know that even the coverage of these will appear skewed depending on the outlet.
TomJW, you ever been to Obama’s church? Can you speak from experience that Trinity United is a “church of hate” or is that just what you’ve heard on TV?
Thought so.
Self-hating Boomer said:
“Yes, we need more domestic oil production, but that has nothing to do with refineries. There’s no shortage of refining capacity. We don’t need to “build more refineries”, with current utilization running in the 80-85% range.”
I had heard for years we needed more refineries and hadn’t built one in 30 years because of the Dimms and their Environmental pals. So I called an engineer friend who has worked in the oil business all over the world.
His response was: “Do they make this stuff up? Our refinery capacity is about 20%. That’s why we have to buy so much refined product.”
Now, you made an assertion self-hating boomer. Back it up with cites please.
“One bad remark by mccain” – about his WIFE… AND it’s the “c” word. Not the “b” word, the “c” word.
And yes, issues are very important. Let’s talk mccain and economy:
On the campaign trail in Jacksonville, Florida, the Senator declared this morning that “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.”
Maybe he should speak with Alan Greenspan who foresees another bank closing…
Or review the Senate Energy meeting from Friday where no one would say that drilling is America’s #1 issue.
Or spend some SERIOUS time reviewing PALIN’s “earmarks for Alaska” requests. Seriously.
“They wouldn’t care if Biden had lime-green shag carpet stapled to his head…you’d never hear a bad word.”
Not sure staples would hold. Masonry screws would work.
http://www.threeballclimbing.com/hardware/concretescrews.htm
Then again has anyone EVER seen Sen. Biden touring a Hurricane site? Or any other place noted for being windy? Congress excepted.
“Hope is itself a species of happiness, and, perhaps, the chief happiness which this world affords.”
Samuel Johnson
English author, critic, & lexicographer (1709 – 1784)
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avoidswork:
Obama can call a report[er] whatever he wants in whatever context he wants.
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Did you… really… just type that?
Obama could call a reporter a “tr*llop” or “c**t” or “b***h” if he wanted to, and you would be okay with that?? And he wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) suffer any repercussions at all??
Maybe he should speak with Alan Greenspan who foresees another bank closing …
Maybe you should speak with Alan Greenspan who notes also that 98% of banks are NOT CLOSING.
Or review the Senate Energy meeting from Friday where no one would say that drilling is America’s #1 issue.
And where no one would say that solar and wind energy are going to solve our energy needs anytime soon, or ever.
Or spend some SERIOUS time reviewing PALIN’s “earmarks for Alaska” requests. Seriously.
Or spend some SERIOUS time reviewing Obama’s activities in, well, anything at all, but heck, let’s look into Obama’s earmark requests. Seriously.
Otherwise, devastating points that are sure to swing the election. Truly.
(Hey, did you know John McCain doesn’t know what a computer is, and wants us to be at war for the next 100 years! These are ‘important issues’ espoused by SERIOUS people!)
Right on cue Chevy Chase shows up to say, “I’d like her to go even harder. I want her to decimate this woman. This is a, this woman is, I mean I can’t believe isn’t more about her. All the media have and the press have been going “oh, she’s a wonderful, oh God, her speech was great.”"
Decimate means to kill.
Ok, I know this is off-topic, but I’ve just got to say this for all of you who haven’t figured it out yet:
Schnargley is being satirical.
That is all.
“Decimate means to kill.”
Actually, “decimate” means to kill one tenth of.
HATERS
Long before the name Lewinski was well know, certain rabid conservatives defined themselves as Haters and, unintentionally, made themselves onjects of ridicule even as they immunized the Clinton’s from potentially valid accusations.
I am surprised that the “Hater” syndrome continues to be a popular option for pundits who, obviously, want to increase their influence. After both Bill Clinton and George Bush won re-elections despite (because?) of the over-reactions of so many outspoken haters… Sarah Palin effortlessly goads the MSM to cooperatively step up, walk to the sidelines, and leave the game.
Self-marginalization.
Priceless.
People, what Mr. Hanson failed to mention is that throughout the Democratic campaign, Obama has been promoting “change”. They see how the current administration have failed in these 8 years to move the country forward economically, how Washington’s bipartisanship is crippling our country, how the middle classes are working harder but not getting better, how the Iraq War is literally in all of our pockets for the wrong reasons, etc. Their campaign wants to change all this since the beginning.
Now, seeing that the word “change” is attracting the country’s attention, McCain started promoting this too at the RNC. He wants to change bipartisanship in Washington now too. He wants to change the economy for the better now too. He wants to change this, change that. In order to be able to change anything, one must see all of the faults in the current situation at hand. McCain has never spoken publicly that we have been seeing an economic decline in these past 8 years. Obama has addressed it, time and time over, and he really wants to change it for the better. Who is evolving towards whom now?
avoidswork,
You are talking to deaf ears in here. These are all PajamasMedia “sheeps” that you are talking to. They wouldn’t even know what issues are if it hit them on the head. They will all vote for McCain solely based on their personal feelings. “Issues? What issues? Do we know what issues mean? We’re only voting on how we feel and what makes us happy”.
Could Ed Wallis and avoidswork simply be the same person? Several of their exchanges magically appear right on top of each other. And their writing style is… VERY similar… Including a fondness for ellipses…
Come on, guys (or more likely, guy), don’t clutter a well-written forum with your Punch and Judy Show.
In pursuit of trivial points – Governor Palin wears a bun not a beehive, which is an elaborately teased bouffant hairstyle of the late fifties and early sixties. Using the wrong name conjures up an incorrect image. Nuance, always nuance.
TomJW,
There’s alot of action at PJM and elsewhere by Alexrod’s Astroturf writers…you know, those “concerned Christians,” “sincere feminists,” “true Independents” who appeared sudddenly after Palin’s announcement…many of whom claim to be “former McCain” supporters but now ardently support Zerobama.
The veneer gets pretty thin and, after a few posts of their “party-line-prepared rhetoric,” it is clear what fraudulent thoughts they posit here. The only thing which comes through is the vitriol (eh…Mr. “true independent”?!).
But I encourage them to keep on trying! Axelrod must have to pay a heap of cash from Zerobama’s war chest (or, “war breast” for those indignant fems out there…), so better he spend the effort here.
VDH is right: the liberals always try to sound like conservatives in order to get elected. This should tell conservatives something. Healthcare is growing ever more expensive because of government oversight. Gas is more expensive than it should be because of government oversight. Prices in general are higher than they should be because of government oversight of imports. The mortgage crisis is a direct result of government involvement in Fannie and Freddie, government-created and subsidized alternatives to the free market.
There is one saving grace: as Will Rogers said, “It’s a darn good thing we don’t get all of the government we pay for.” Never before in our history have so few paid so much for so little.
If GM, FedEx, Microsoft, Exxon, or GE peddled the phony promises that liberal politicians do, their CEO’s would serve jail sentences for fraud.
What I find strange about this trend in “reporting the news” is how it feeds the anger and loathing of many.
Is “victory” in Afghanistan possible? Perhaps more than in Iraq, that depends on your definition of victory. Obama’s contention that we negligently shortchanged the war in Afghanistan by unwisely invading Iraq deserves, I think, more examination (by VDH?).
After the decision was made to topple Saddam Hussein, there’s no doubt we shifted resources away from the fight in Afghanistan. At the time, ~ mid 2002, the Taliban had been removed from power and Al Quaida’s camps in the countryside of Afghanistan had been closed. Our immediate objectives had been obtained. Over the next six years, we — and the international community — under-resourced the effort to rebuild and secure Afghanistan, allowing the Taliban to regroup. This year we have seen a surge of military activity by the Taliban/Al Quaida in Afghanistan, leading to claims by Obama and others that we are losing the “good fight” against our true enemies. This assertion is overblown.
Defeating the Taliban conclusively would have involved military occupation of the Pashtun tribal areas in the borderlands of Pakistan, by us or the Pakistanis. Considering the political situation in Pakistan these past six years, that was never going to happen, and won’t in the foreseeable future either. Our enemies have a safe refuge in a very unstable country that is nominally our ally. Targeted assassinations of Taliban and Al Quaida leaders in the Northwest Frontier may disrupt their plans, but is unlikely to defeat them outright. In my opinion, the war in Afghanistan will be a protracted, low intensity conflict for years. Obama’s simple pronouncements on how to solve this dilemma are ridiculous. I’m not a military expert by any means, and I would be interested in hearing other opinions on this situation.
“We’re only voting on how we feel and what makes us happy”
Hey Jeffy, Don’t pin those Democrat emotions on us! That’s your playbook. We Republicans are too heartless to let our feelings get in the way of world domination, dontcha know!
Now, return to your regularly broadcast fantasy world…
-GG
When will the ‘big(shot)media’ fall?
I hope PJTV grows.
If the ‘left’ starts theirs, I can imagine another ‘Air America’ fiasco.
avoidswork-get some Xanax.
Jeff-you’ve already had your 15 minutes on this blog.
Sandra, either you didn’t phrase the question correctly, or that person doesn’t know what he’s talking about. That number is patently absurd on it’s face. If we only have 20% of the refining capacity needed, where’s the other 80% coming from? Yes, we are importing some refined products, no, it’s nowhere near 80%.
I think you and/or him are confusing refining with production. Not the same thing. Completely different. One pumps the stuff out of the ground, the other turns the black gunk out of the ground into useful products. Our problem is not enough of the black gunk.
America imports 60% + of its oil. This is available at any site of the federal government. The General Accounting Office & the Congressional Budget Office both have facts on this point. America is using well over 80% of its refining capacity. The other issue is, we import sweet crude. That’s the light stuff. Heavy crude refining capacity in America is not extensive.McCain’s comment on economy was fully explained in an interview this AM on one of the MSM nets. The context is the issue on that quote. He is not asserting all is well. He was speaking about foundational elements. But really, check with the MSM nets websites where the interview has a full contextual explanation.
Palin made few “earmark” requests. Senator Ted Stevens was the earmark king, not the previous or current governor. That any Mayor or even governor would reject earmark money is incomprehensible, “if” that money would actually produce a positive result. I think most of Palin’s money requests were through the acceptable legislative spending programs, as many requests had normally been requested prior to the now standard use of earmarks by many in Congress on “BOTH” sides of the aisle.
Overall spending by Washington is our biggest problem financially. If Washington would reduce its spending, especially the earmarks, we could start to make a dent in the deficit. I am not convinced reducing so called entitlement programs is the answer so many have embraced. Reducing the “growth” of future entitlements is also an issue we should be discussing for responsible fiscal management.
Both candidates have asked that “family” be excluded from the fray. Lets us do the same thing & let what each call each other, up to them.
Jeff,
We on the right are not looking at issues only voting on emotion. Are you trippin’? What issues is the Obamameister running on? He’s running on hope and change. That’s pretty specific there Einstein. Perish the thought thar liberals would be moved by emotion and feelings. They’re such cool customers. In reality that is all the girly men and manly g-r-r-r-ls on the left are motivated by;feelings. They don’t have a clue about the reality of the world we live in.
Anyone else agree that “avoidswork” is a perfect user name for a liberal Democrat?
trangbang68 and Garcia’s Ghost,
Seeing how the two of you are such an intelligent bunch, list at least 10 specific reasons why you are voting for your candidate. By all means, please list them. Oh, and brush up on the grammar, kids.
Self-hating Boomer,
But is that 80-85% of what we need, or just 80-85% of current capacity? And if it is capacity, does it meet actual need at 100%?
“Jeff” 1:49pm –
Haven’t you realized by now that YOU have NO BASIS WHATSOEVER to demand that others provide evidence of their reasoning?!
You are a troll of the first degree, by evidence of your posts over the last months.
Go back to Chicago and ask Axelrod for a raise, if he wants his Astroturf Writers to make more serious waves.
Jeff, I’m not either of them, but how’s this:
1) I want to pursue our mission in Iraq until it is fully accomplished, which means a secure Iraqi gov’t freely operating and an important mideast ally;
2) I want to stay on the offensive against Islamic jihad;
3) I don’t want a capital gains hike;
4) I don’t want the Bush tax cuts to expire;
5) I don’t want to rely on the U.N. for our foreign policy positions;
6) I want free trade;
7) I don’t want Joe Biden as President of the Senate;
8) I don’t want to punish with punative taxation the very industry that can deliver more energy in the short term, i.e. the oil companies–plus, one would be silly not to realize any “windfall” taxes on business/industry is ALWAYS passed on to the consumer, i.e. you and me;
9) I want to approach energy solutions with everything on the table–drilling here, wind and solar, and reasonable bio research–and not elect a guy beholding to the insane Pelosi-esque do nothing enviro wackos; and
10) Obama has “changed” his positions on so many things, I’m not even sure he knows where he really stands on anything anymore, and I find that to be a major character flaw.
Now, you give us 10 the other way.
From reading this blog, and from watching recent campaign coverage, I suddenly understand why almost half of America doesn’t vote at all.
Ed Wallis,
I have asked you on another post to please take your medications, ole timer. Your elderly ramblings are an apparent sign that you are senile and are low on your medications. Try to come up with some conventional wisdom rather than the ramblings of an old man who is hanging on to ancient ideology. Please lie down and take your medications. Let the much younger generations, with a sound mind and body, lead this country forward.
Kevin, good question. I don’t remember which that was. Obviously right now, with all of the shutdowns in Texas, they’re going to be running over 100% (yes, that’s possible; 100% is just nameplate capacity, you can usually push 105-115 through) until they’re caught up.
It also depends on which part of the country you’re in. I think California is maxed out, and pushing as hard as they can.
Rubicon brought up a good point; as we pump more heavy/sour crude, we will have to modify the refineries to handle it. That’s ongoing. I don’t think anybody’s having trouble doing that, except again, maybe in California.
If the Californians screw their energy infrastructure up too badly, they’ll just start building refineries and power plants in Tijuana. Don’t be surprised.
Sandra, If our ( united states) refineries are running at 20% of capacity I’ll kiss your tush at the Washington Monument in D.C. and give you 3 days to draw a crowd.
That has to be one of the most poorly-constructed sentences I’ve ever read, and I just picked at at random from this gaseous burst of banalities. Hanson churns out this kind of drivel by the yard, but his work isn’t worth a fart in a hurricane.
yours truly,
the supportive unhinged
Jeffie,
10 Reasons Why I’m going to vote for my candidate, okay.
1) Because we face the possibility of major war on several fronts in the next few years. I want a CIC who knows what end the round comes out of and isn’t afraid to commit men to battle.
2) Because my candidate has a far more comprehensive energy policy than yours and your party.
3) because McCain will not appoint Supreme Court judges of the philosophical bent of Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
4) Because both of my candidates are pro life while Obama is the most pro-abortion candidate ever to run for president.
5) Because both McCain and Palin have taken on corruption in their own party while Obama and Biden are dyed in the wool partisans
6)Because my candidates are more likely to promote American interests than the European appeasement/multilateral interests promoted by the left
7)Because I prefer the libertarian strain in the Republican candidates from the West to the effete east coast leftism of yours
8)Because McCain will provide a check to the incompetent Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi who are stooges for the anti American hard left of George Soros
9) Because McCain understands and has seen up close and personally the evil that is out there in the world and understands the need for vigilance
10)Because McCain is enough of a maverick to actually accomplish change while Obama is a glib smooth talker, but is a standard guilt ridden liberal who will sell our enemies the rope to hang us
BONUS POINTS:
11) So I can gloat on election night when Keith Obermann cries, Lindsay Lohan buys some dope, Daily Kos and the HuffPo implode,and jive ass little fools like you can’t figure it out
What people don’t understand is why some of us are so against the current Republican ticket, but we have an obligation to fight against history ever being repeated again. Many of us out here are not fighting for the Democratic campaign but are fighting against an ideology.
1) An ideology that completely mirrors the ideology of this past 8 years.
2) An ideology that recognizes the few while completely disregarding the masses.
3) An ideology that believes in taking military action against Iraq, an incident that is completely unrelated to 9/11, without solidifying our claims beforehand. In the present, we have found no evidence of weapons of mass destructions or a tie to Osama Bin Laden. The devastation of this war has cost us over 4,000 of our brave troops and counting, over 1/2 trillion dollars of taxpayer’s money and counting, and over 1 million Iraqi lives unrelated to the terrorists or insurgency.
Cost of the Iraq War — http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home
4) An ideology that still believes that the Iraq War is the right war on terrorism when the Afghanistan War should had been the right war on terrorism, where Osama Bin Laden actually was until he slipped into the mountains and into Pakistan’s territory now. The Iraq War also diverted our attention away from the Afghanistan War. We now have extended our resources in two separate places and have heightened our risk to our troops, our expenses, and creating another dilemma that will take quite some time to finalize. The Iraq War will not go away overnight and it is now our obligation to see it all the way through for God knows how many more years. This has also been the most unpopular war in the eyes of the world’s communities.
5) An ideology that believes that we are at our safest state since 9/11, when a recent terrorist plot was still trying to enter Great Britain’s airports with liquid explosives heading directly to us, but thankfully the plot was foiled. While in Afghanistan, the terrorists are regrouping and strengthening and we have recently suffered another high casualty to our troops yet again within this past month. We currently have the least amount of alliances in the world’s communities due to this unpopular Iraq War. True national securities are the ties that bind us to our world’s communities and the ties that bind them to us.
6) An ideology that vetted one of the most inexperience VP ticket in history, from foreign policies to national defense. If God forbids that anything happens to this President if elected and is stricken with illness, this VP will be running the country.
7) An ideology that believes in “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” while we are facing the highest mortgage foreclosure crisis, high unemployment rate, and the largest collapse of our financial infrastructures since The Great Depression of 1929.
This is an ideology that a lot of us in America are against. Whether this ideology is in the Republican or Democratic ticket is not the main issue but the fact is that America does not want to fall into another 4 more years of devastation. We cannot afford this anymore.
Well said. I like the way you describe Hollywood’s bandwagon approval of Obama. Every time I hear that yet another actor/actress has something to say about Palin, I just roll my eyes and realize more and more that Hollywood is very far removed from the general public and I could care less what egotistical thing they have to say.
The media is also ridiculous, disgusting really in their bias. Charles Gibson was a joke in his interview and anyone could see it… the way he tilted his glasses, looking down at Sarah with a very disapproving look, no smile whatsoever, no friendliness, and even an occassional sigh of exasperation at her percieved stupidity. UGH! I lost all respect for him after that interview.
Lost respect for alot of people since Palin’s nomination as I did not realize people would literally sell their souls for Obama. By that I mean that they have lost all sense of integrity, truthfulness, and fairness, and have become biased, mean, crazed, arrogant, slanderous, untruthful, insulting, and the list goes on….
“Jeff” 9:36pm –
Name and define the so-called “ideology” you whine about.
You have done nothing but air dirty laundry. Your laundry list is nothing but that.
More than that, however, cannot really be expected from Axelrod Astroturf writers…
…unless it’s cheap insults (see 5:28pm).
“Jeff,” tell Axelrod he needs to send someone else in here; you’ve ruined whatever credibility you may have once had.
“Jeff” 9:36pm –
I’ll guess you mean : “Capitalism” …
…versus Socialism (not that you or Zerobama would ever admit to that being the driver behind his policies…no, no, we don’t mean Soros’ checkbook here…)
Given that choice, I trust Americans to vote for Capitalism – warts and all – every time over Socialism.
Ms. avoidswork epitomizes the female persuasion of the libbie wing of the Dimocratic party: misandry.
I have to agree with Scott that we underestimate at our own peril the effect that the constant bashing from the liberal media is having. He is correct that, instead of thinking that the voters are turned towards McCain/Palin by this, we should worry that it is still only basically a tie DESPITE the obvious media bias.
They have learned the Big Lie technique well, and it works. It is my fear that the sheer cumulative weight of all this slander, innuendo, and lies will ultimately result in just enough of the few remaining independents switching to Obama to result in his victory.
After all, how did we get to the point that the left’s philosophies and polices, which are nearly indistinguishable from what fifty years ago would have been called hardcore communism, are now in a tie in the race for president? Because they control literally all the opinion-forming institutions in this country: the media, acacemia, and entertainment. All this indoctrination has had its effect on the mindset of half the country.
If it wasn’t for the internet and its progeny, the blogosphere, and talk radio, we would have already had the coronation of Hillary long ago, and may likely soon have one for Obama instead.
And don’t forget, Obama has already expressed his support for the “Fairness Doctrine”, which would be the end of talk radio. Legal action by armies of left-wing lawyers against the blogosphere has already begun in earnest in Canada, and we’re next.
Be very afraid.
Ed Wallis,
You have it all wrong. I am doing this because I have an obligation to provide some insights to the heartland of America. We cannot afford 4 more years of devastation. I understand your obligation to contest this now because you also believe in your views strongly and I will not resort to insulting you anymore. Though I was upset with you posting another Jeff’s comment and claiming that it was mine all over this website, I am all past that now.
Jeff 1:50pm –
About time you stop the insults. You’ve already ruined your credibility here at PJM.
Yet…I wonder why you are so ignorant of the fact that PJM could simply check the IP address of whomever wrote that “fraudulent” post. IT WASN’T ME, SILLY CHILD.
Your “veneer caring” doesn’t fool anyone here anymore. Tell Axelrod he needs to send in a replacement ASTROTURFER.
I see Jeff could only muster 7 reasons, and mostly broad non-specific generalities. Without explaining Iraq, he seems to want to go back in time and erase that we went–fantasy. Well, we’re there, and quite successfully, so why not give us some serious thoughts about what to do now?
With the possible exception of my #10, my reasons were distinct issues.
Libs, emotional instead of rational, feelings trump serious analysis.
Make that reason #11 I’m voting McCain–adulthood.
“Rvastar: Dems wouldn’t care if Biden had lime green carpet stapled to his head.”
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!
Hey Jeff,
“You have an obligation to provide some insight to the heartland of America” What an imbecile. I’m sure old Joe Bob in the heartland is sitting on the edge of his seat waiting for the thunder and lightning as great jewels of wisdom flow from the eloquent lips of Jeff the Genius.
You’re taking your self way to serious homeboy.
I know you got an A in 12th grade AP Government, but spare us your great ideas. We’re just too dumb out here in the plains to grasp the subtle nuances of your razor trap mind.What a tool!
for that matter, who the is this obama fellow?
no experience. well, elementary school level experience when compared to that of ALL THE OTHERS who mysteriously dropped out of the race for seemingly no reason whatsoever.
“hp” 4:39am –
I seem to remember someone looking like “that guy” on the MISSING side of a milk carton, but then…
…I think I just saw him lurking in the darkened back room of a beer hall, getting his thugs all prepared to whip up a fight for him. “GET IN THEIR FACES” I heard.
Seems the ends justify the means for this Chicago punk.
I a prerequisite to being President is having the integrity to argue and debate based on honest premises.
NOT SO WITH ZEROBAMA.
See :
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178554189155003.html
ED Wallis:Right On! “Community Organizer is pcspeak for “left-wing rabblefuhrer”!It’s hard to believe that this vaporous,affirmative action Chavez clone,actually has a shot at the presidency.
Madness is something rare in individuals – but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule. Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil
Regarding McCain “lying” in his ads, it is important to note that the only way McCain can garner any media interest about Obama’s positions and associations is to stretch them slightly.
The Obama crowd immediately rushes to fact check the ads, and ends up having to admit that portions of the ads are true.
While it is sad McCain has to trick the media into doing it’s job, it is working.
Old Lefty read this and thank God you were not a fetus around Huessain Mohamad Obama. Liberals love government handouts so they kill the unborn to stop the competition. Of course Obama will say it is racist when he is exposed for the cold hearted S.O.B. he is!
If It Was Up to Obama, This Woman Would be Dead
Townhall.com ^ | September 20, 2008 | Doug Giles
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2008 06:46:53 by Kaslin
No, I’m not talking about Sarah Palin, I’m talking about Gianna Jessen.
If it was up to the abominable Obama, the to-be-aborted little baby, Gianna Jessen, would have been turned into worm dirt 31 years ago. Thankfully, Mr. Change and Mr. Hope wasn’t around back then to lay his liberal legislative death-dealing pen to Ms. Jessen’s fate—and the world is a better place for it.
So, who is Gianna Jessen?
Gianna is an abortion survivor. Yep, she kicked death’s butt and survived against all odds. Her medical records state that she was “born during a saline abortion,” and if Barack Obama would have had his way, she wouldn’t be here.
Barack Obama voted four times against affording these “born alives” their most basic human right. Chilling, eh? How progressive of you, liberals. Hitler would be proud, and I’m sure Satan is just giddy with your creative ways to slay that inconvenient little baby even if it survives your initial assault.
Jessen, with a Pit Bull spirit, survived being burned alive in saline solution for eighteen hours. Eighteen hours, ladies and gents! FYI: This is not the same saline solution you use to clean your contacts but a lethal cocktail of death intended to cook the unborn kid from the inside out.
Weighing in at 2 lbs at birth with cerebral palsy (thanks to the effects of the witch’s brew she stewed in), the gloomy doctors said little Gianna would never be able to hold up her head, sit up, crawl or walk.
God had different plans.
Not only did she hold her head up, sit, crawl and walk, but she has run in two twenty-six mile marathons and has spoken all over the world, on TV, in churches and on college campuses about the power of God and the sanctity of life. Put that in your stupid pipe and smoke it, all-wise and all-knowing doctors.
Liberals love being painted as the defender of the underdog. Yeah, if you feel like you are being abused, oppressed, preyed upon, neglected, entitled to something or endangered in any way . . . do not fear! The Dems are here! Their protection extends not only to the human victim, but also to the translucent hair lice, the gargling nut warbler, a warming globe, a rare venereal crab, and a whooping crane’s egg.
Yep, the liberals will ramp up to Mach2, set their hair on fire, and fight, yell, picket, protest and blog their fingers bloody for animal rights and for your rights—that is unless, of course, you’re an unborn child.
It is with the unborn baby that the “protectors of the weak” morph into the party that wreaks havoc upon the truly helpless. It’s interesting to see misty-eyed liberals go quasi-Talibanic for the little animal while they have absolutely no qualms whatsoever endorsing the snuffing out of the life of a tiny unborn human.
One of the reasons the barbaric left uses to convince themselves that they’re right on the issue of killing that inconvenient “little bugger” (as one of their own calls it) is that it is not yet a person.
Something that is really wrecking the “protectors of the weak” BS campaign of killing unborn kids, however, is ultrasound imagery (Oops. Didn’t see that coming, now did you?). These pics and videos are screwing up things for the pro-choicers. Back in the day when they were selling us on the “fetal blob” stuff, all we had at our disposal to contradict their nonsense was common sense and a very grainy 2D sonogram.
With the use of ultrasound imaging increasing daily, how a person can say that an unborn baby is not yet a person and can be killed at Mommy Dearest’s discretion is barbarically beyond me. I guess the left and the pink conservatives callous their hearts to the unborn by rejecting a proposition central to Judeo-Christian thought regarding life and death: namely, that human life (beginning at conception and lasting until the person naturally croaks) is intrinsically good and thus sacred—not just instrumentally good.
In contrast with the secular “elite,” the “stupid,” “non-elite” and “archaic” Judeo-Christian constituency believes that all people—from the embryo to the elderly, including severely developmentally disabled, people in comas and everyone in between—have dignity and value. As Robert George said, “Their significance is not based upon what they can do, or how they make us feel or whether or not we approve of their quality of life, but principally because they live.”
And yet, these secular barbaric “tools” see human beings as tools; and if they don’t somehow fit instrumentally within the secularists’ Darwinian, utilitarian utopia, they get tagged as “inconvenient” and are relegated to the “very expendable” list. That’s why abortion is no big deal, and neither is taking the life of a so-called defective child, or suicide, or “mercy killing” a helpless senior. But God help you if you should ever run a boat’s prop over a manatee’s back! They’ll get pissed!
Not only does Obama’s Party of Death (as Ramesh Ponnuru calls the libtards) advocate the death of the unborn and the inconvenient, but they also want your tax dollars to pay for their death wishes, for all parents to butt out of their teenage daughter’s abortion plans, and for the US to continue to stay left of Europe when it comes to abortion on demand. Consider all the above when you cast your vote in November, those of you on the left and the right who cherish the unborn more than a sea cow.
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