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		<title>By: harmonicminer &#187; What went wrong</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/mediterranean-reflections-on-what-went-wrong/#comment-33753</link>
		<dc:creator>harmonicminer &#187; What went wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mediterranean Reflections on What Went Wrong All very thoughtful, and well worth reading in its entirety. In California we are spending hundreds of billions on prisons, in which killers and thugs sue constantly for expanded rights, while universities lay off professors (though rarely nonacademic apparatchiks and administrators), and turn away students. Ravenna invested in thousands of hours of sculpture, we in thousands of hours of legal work in appeals and writs. Our cynical intellectual elites are becoming ever more postmodern even as the undereducated majority becomes premodern. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mediterranean Reflections on What Went Wrong All very thoughtful, and well worth reading in its entirety. In California we are spending hundreds of billions on prisons, in which killers and thugs sue constantly for expanded rights, while universities lay off professors (though rarely nonacademic apparatchiks and administrators), and turn away students. Ravenna invested in thousands of hours of sculpture, we in thousands of hours of legal work in appeals and writs. Our cynical intellectual elites are becoming ever more postmodern even as the undereducated majority becomes premodern. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Des FitzGerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des FitzGerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to mention:

Across from the National Government Building in Rome there is a bookstore.  There, in Italian, I saw one of your books -- Global Reach, indeed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to mention:</p>
<p>Across from the National Government Building in Rome there is a bookstore.  There, in Italian, I saw one of your books &#8212; Global Reach, indeed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Des FitzGerald</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/mediterranean-reflections-on-what-went-wrong/#comment-33711</link>
		<dc:creator>Des FitzGerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 20:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Hanson:

We are just returned from Venice and had been there the same week as you.  I remarked to my family that this was the worst crowding I have seen in Venice since I began visiting there, beginning in 1966.  It didn&#039;t help that much space was taken up by the Leonard Cohen concert stage and seating and the barriers for the repair work to the Campanile.

I also remarked that despite our motor boatman saying business was down 40%, it just couldn&#039;t be the case, given the hordes of tourists, including Italian ones.

Anyway, besides Garry Wills in his book on his beloved Venice you did a good job explaining the decline of the Serene Republic, let alone Napoleon and his campaign against the ancient churches.  We also revisited Pisa; would that Galileo had encouraged the Pisans to dredge their port before it silted up.

Finally, I am glad the PJM moderators have instituted guidelines, but there ought to be a log-in requirement with IP addresses recorded.

Ciao!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Hanson:</p>
<p>We are just returned from Venice and had been there the same week as you.  I remarked to my family that this was the worst crowding I have seen in Venice since I began visiting there, beginning in 1966.  It didn&#8217;t help that much space was taken up by the Leonard Cohen concert stage and seating and the barriers for the repair work to the Campanile.</p>
<p>I also remarked that despite our motor boatman saying business was down 40%, it just couldn&#8217;t be the case, given the hordes of tourists, including Italian ones.</p>
<p>Anyway, besides Garry Wills in his book on his beloved Venice you did a good job explaining the decline of the Serene Republic, let alone Napoleon and his campaign against the ancient churches.  We also revisited Pisa; would that Galileo had encouraged the Pisans to dredge their port before it silted up.</p>
<p>Finally, I am glad the PJM moderators have instituted guidelines, but there ought to be a log-in requirement with IP addresses recorded.</p>
<p>Ciao!</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernie Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from truth and turn aside to myths&quot; 

 -- 2 Timothy 4:3-4.

I can&#039;t recall who first brought those verses to my attention, but I find them very pertinent to our present habit of finding new and often conflicting versions of truth in &quot;studies&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from truth and turn aside to myths&#8221; </p>
<p> &#8212; 2 Timothy 4:3-4.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t recall who first brought those verses to my attention, but I find them very pertinent to our present habit of finding new and often conflicting versions of truth in &#8220;studies&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jeff wyss</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff wyss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope someone is still reading this thread. Toady I found an old newpaper article that I had saved. Hanson&#039;s comments about Venice made me look for it. The article tells that back in 1504 the venetians studied the possibiity of opening the Suez canal to be able compete with the portuguese! They actually sent an embassy to the Sultan of Egypt to propose the idea. As it turned out nothing came of it because the sultan was afraid to piss the Turks. he was not paranoid. Undeed in 1517 the turks annexed Egypt!

In case anyone is interested the article was published August 5th 2004 in the italian newspaper Il CORRIERE DELLA SERA, author Beppe Gullino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope someone is still reading this thread. Toady I found an old newpaper article that I had saved. Hanson&#8217;s comments about Venice made me look for it. The article tells that back in 1504 the venetians studied the possibiity of opening the Suez canal to be able compete with the portuguese! They actually sent an embassy to the Sultan of Egypt to propose the idea. As it turned out nothing came of it because the sultan was afraid to piss the Turks. he was not paranoid. Undeed in 1517 the turks annexed Egypt!</p>
<p>In case anyone is interested the article was published August 5th 2004 in the italian newspaper Il CORRIERE DELLA SERA, author Beppe Gullino.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>53. Anonymous  Weapons of _Micro_ Destruction:
When a Neo-Barb tries to sneak up on a Tech
enclave, the rustling in the grass will not be anything as harmless as a rattlesnake. :&gt;

54. Wolla Dalbo  When cash cows wander off...
Actually, Galts run in Packs, not herds, and
the State has no cowboys; That is why Obama
wants a National Police Force.

One needs to reference the Right Tv SF example:
Jericho, not Jeremiah, but economic collapse,
not nuclear or biological attack.

The Republic of Texas will be the home base
of the forces which reunite the states;
Get here as soon as you can. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>53. Anonymous  Weapons of _Micro_ Destruction:<br />
When a Neo-Barb tries to sneak up on a Tech<br />
enclave, the rustling in the grass will not be anything as harmless as a rattlesnake. :&gt;</p>
<p>54. Wolla Dalbo  When cash cows wander off&#8230;<br />
Actually, Galts run in Packs, not herds, and<br />
the State has no cowboys; That is why Obama<br />
wants a National Police Force.</p>
<p>One needs to reference the Right Tv SF example:<br />
Jericho, not Jeremiah, but economic collapse,<br />
not nuclear or biological attack.</p>
<p>The Republic of Texas will be the home base<br />
of the forces which reunite the states;<br />
Get here as soon as you can. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11. Frankns:

I&#039;m going Galt. My wife and I make ~$200k. In December she&#039;s quitting and reducing ouor salary income to less than half of what it is today. We&#039;ve paid off our cars and downsized our home. We&#039;ve decided to not pay for the welfare state any more than we have to. With our new income I hope to be below whatever level that the socialists are going to whack with new taxes. I plan to get very involved with the states rights movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11. Frankns:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going Galt. My wife and I make ~$200k. In December she&#8217;s quitting and reducing ouor salary income to less than half of what it is today. We&#8217;ve paid off our cars and downsized our home. We&#8217;ve decided to not pay for the welfare state any more than we have to. With our new income I hope to be below whatever level that the socialists are going to whack with new taxes. I plan to get very involved with the states rights movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian in London</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian in London</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Professor,

I&#039;ve been reading your musings for the last year and have found them thought-provoking and insightful albeit a bit dark. I enjoy your references to western history and since I’ve been living outside the United States for several years now in both Spain and England. I’ve been mesmerized watching current events unfold with singular fascination.
Given the quantity of the legislation that has passed or will soon pass, it will be interesting to see how events unfold. Will Americans jettison their characteristic self-reliance and adopt the European mentality of get as much from the system while hiding what you have?  This administration is poll-driven and the only reason why the Healthcare legislation was delayed is due to the downward slide in the polls. He has done a very good job in shaping the message and I think that Gates-Gate was the perfect red herring to get the public to focus their attention on something other than the re-making of the Health system
Finally, until the mainstream media turns a critical eye on the administration and starts calling them to task on some of the more objectionable actions you won’t see a change in behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Professor,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading your musings for the last year and have found them thought-provoking and insightful albeit a bit dark. I enjoy your references to western history and since I’ve been living outside the United States for several years now in both Spain and England. I’ve been mesmerized watching current events unfold with singular fascination.<br />
Given the quantity of the legislation that has passed or will soon pass, it will be interesting to see how events unfold. Will Americans jettison their characteristic self-reliance and adopt the European mentality of get as much from the system while hiding what you have?  This administration is poll-driven and the only reason why the Healthcare legislation was delayed is due to the downward slide in the polls. He has done a very good job in shaping the message and I think that Gates-Gate was the perfect red herring to get the public to focus their attention on something other than the re-making of the Health system<br />
Finally, until the mainstream media turns a critical eye on the administration and starts calling them to task on some of the more objectionable actions you won’t see a change in behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the USA spends too much on the military &amp; related defense spending stuff, no one seems ready to admit this and cut the crap. if we are realistic about the budget and deficit then we need to pull back our world military presence.  the problems we face did not start with this presidency, and will not be easy to change, we must accommodate ourselves to reality, we need real change not band-aids or pointing fingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the USA spends too much on the military &amp; related defense spending stuff, no one seems ready to admit this and cut the crap. if we are realistic about the budget and deficit then we need to pull back our world military presence.  the problems we face did not start with this presidency, and will not be easy to change, we must accommodate ourselves to reality, we need real change not band-aids or pointing fingers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the professor knows from his historical understanding, America has been heading down the road of history for a long time. Yes we are repeating the lessons of history because we failed to learn them. Were we not warned? Of course we were! Pastors, preachers, politicians, all have warned us but no one listened, at least not enough, so we are repeating the repeated. The governments of man cannot stand and have always been destined to fail, as soon as they forget the pit from which they were dug, they spiral downward in their darkness, unable to see the error of their ways. No government apart from God has ever succeeded and are not allowed to stand for long in their apostacy. so while we are in freefall the King of the heavens is raising up the next and final government the Earth will ever see. His! As promised and on time as usual. Will the the nations of the world like it? No! The pain of birth is traumatic at the least but we are promised it will happen fast and we appear to be on tne fast track now. So be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the professor knows from his historical understanding, America has been heading down the road of history for a long time. Yes we are repeating the lessons of history because we failed to learn them. Were we not warned? Of course we were! Pastors, preachers, politicians, all have warned us but no one listened, at least not enough, so we are repeating the repeated. The governments of man cannot stand and have always been destined to fail, as soon as they forget the pit from which they were dug, they spiral downward in their darkness, unable to see the error of their ways. No government apart from God has ever succeeded and are not allowed to stand for long in their apostacy. so while we are in freefall the King of the heavens is raising up the next and final government the Earth will ever see. His! As promised and on time as usual. Will the the nations of the world like it? No! The pain of birth is traumatic at the least but we are promised it will happen fast and we appear to be on tne fast track now. So be it.</p>
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