Zero Jobs 101 — the Psychology of Alienating Employers
There Is No There There
Zero jobs last month — a net change of zero job growth? It was just announced that last month’s unemployment is still above 9% — despite the nearly five trillion dollars in Keynesian pump-priming, the near zero interest rates, the expanded unemployment and food stamp support, and the government takeovers and subsidies of businesses. There is a scary sort of deer-in-the-headlights look about Obama and Biden that is quite disturbing, as if they are thinking, “This was not supposed to happened to us. Geithner, Goolsbee, Orszag, Romer, Summers assured us that all this borrowing would turn things around — but they are all gone or leaving, so now we are alone? What to do? Hmmm. More them/us class warfare rhetoric? Embrace more of the California/Illinois/New York blue-state model? More European Union emulation? A national high-speed rail jobs program? Bring back Van Jones and “millions of green jobs”? Borrow another $5 trillion? Maybe negative interest rates? Seventy-five million on food stamps? Four years of unemployment insurance? A new Department of Jobs? Call in Jimmy Carter for advice about 1979? $100 billion more in green subsidies to progressive caring companies? Take over Ford? Another speech from Buffett? Unleash the Congressional Black Caucus?”
Two Sorts of Depression
Job growth is as often driven by psychological impulses on the part of employers as actual facts on the ground, given the requirement of a business that it must plan for the unknown future better than do its rivals. While business people don’t read every economic report or follow every political psychodrama, they do watch for trends, know hourly the pulse of their businesses, and talk to colleagues and rivals to form general opinions about business climate and government attitudes and future policies. I’ve been speaking a lot lately to civic groups, a few firms, investors, large and small farmers and farm suppliers, and individual employers. And the following would fairly sum up their current state of mind.
The Great Sit-Down Strike
In the last 30 months, the Obama administration has created a psychological landscape that finally just seemed, whether fairly or not, too hostile to most employers to risk new hiring and buying. Each act, in and of itself, was irrelevant. Together they are proving catastrophic and doing the near impossible of turning a brief recovery into another recession.
Here is the lament I heard: the near $5 trillion in borrowing in just three years, the radical growth in the size of the federal government and its regulatory zeal, ObamaCare, the Boeing plant closure threat, the green jobs sweet-heart deals and Van Jones-like “Millions of Green Jobs” nonsense, the vast expansion in food stamps and unemployment pay-outs, the reversal of the Chrysler creditors, politically driven interference in the car industry, the failed efforts to get card check and cap and trade, the moratoria on new drilling in the Gulf, the general antipathy to new fossil fuel exploitation coupled with new finds of vast new reserves, the new financial regulations, an aggressive EPA oblivious to the effects of its advocacy on jobs, the threatened close-down of energy plants, the support for idling thousands of acres of irrigated farmland due to environmental regulations, the constant talk of higher taxes, the needlessly provocative rhetoric of “fat cat”, “millionaires and billionaires,” “corporate jet owners,” etc. juxtaposed, in hypocritical fashion, to Martha’s Vineyard, Costa del Sol, and Vail First Family getaways — all of these isolated strains finally are becoming a harrowing opera to business people.
Despite enormous opportunity for many cash-rich firms to take advantage of the down cycles (low interest, plentiful potential employees, discounted prices, etc.), they are taking a pass, almost as if to collectively sigh, “This bunch doesn’t like me much and I’m going to hunker down, hoard my cash, and sit out the next year and a half until they are gone.” And the administration’s efforts to counteract these symbols and impressions by courting a high-profile, hyper-capitalist Warren Buffett, or a GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt have proven even more ironic: the former calls for higher taxes that his firms seek to avoid, or targets his post-mortem wealth to (more efficient?) private foundations that rob the Treasury of billions in lost inheritance taxes, or knows higher taxes won’t much matter to his tens of billions in net worth; the latter’s firm paid no 2010 U.S. income taxes on many of its profits and outsourced jobs overseas. And when Obama is told by his base to “get tough,” “get angry,” and “double-down” on the EU-like statist policies and Chicago-organizing, get-in-their-face rhetoric that got him into this jobs stagnation mess, should we laugh or cry? Get furious and demand — what? Snarl and scream about the right to go “big” from $1.6 trillion to $2 trillion in annual borrowing?
Highly publicized visits to bankrupt subsidized green plants, blaming George Bush, new racially-driven invective from some congresspeople against the Tea Party, sermons about the sensitivities of illegal aliens, politically-correct tutorials about Islam — all that might rally the base or in isolation be understandable, but again fairly or not, such liberal rhetoric simply adds to the problem from yet another dimension: confirming perceptions that employers are about the last people in the world that this administration is worried about.
The Upper-Middle-Class Lament
I talked to a gentleman in the Central Valley the other day; he voiced a rarely heard lament. He was a private business person who thought he had saved enough for retirement but could not see any income anywhere: (1) his cash is getting almost no interest in a variety of savings accounts; (2) he can’t sell his house without a loss and can’t see any foreseeable increase in its equity; (3) his 401(K) is still down and never quite recovered from the post-2008 dive and is now simply too volatile for him to know what to do; (4) he assumes taxes will go up to pay for the subsidies of others for which he does not qualify for —yet; (5) he has no public pension and has less income than those who used to make far less but worked for the federal government, state, or city. I could only say that Obama would say, “Well, your’re better off than many in my base.”
Vandal Watch
Last week, I mentioned that my local community is struggling with council members calling each other names and alleging serial conflicts of interest, theft of the city’s manhole covers by public employees, and child pornography charges lodged against a policeman. This week? An epidemic of the theft of honorific bronze plaques from the walls of the city’s schools, civic centers, and public buildings — the sort of commemoration for good deeds that are the stuff of civilization. It reminds me of Procopius’s description of post-Roman Italy in the 6th-century AD, when lost Ostrogoth and Visigoth souls drifted amid the great cities of the Old Romans, cannibalizing the ancients’ marble, bronze, and lead clamps, and melting down monuments for lime. What scares me is that the gang bangers, who are prying these plaques off the walls and selling them, for pennies on their original dollars, for scrap, have no idea of the now dead who built and created these buildings and institutions, but so often in extremis will expect to use them. Did the man who built a school or the woman who founded a civic club ever expect that their commemorative citations would end up in a melt-down pile in the local wrecking yard?
Copper wire torn out from agricultural pumps? Manhole covers stolen by their very custodians? Commemorative plaques pried out? We are almost an entire generation of parasites that cannot create anything new and so feed on the capital and labor of the past. Sixth-century Rome to the core, or maybe Dark-Age Greece around 1000 BC where the illiterate and ignorant were wandering beneath the walls of Mycenae or Pylos looking for shelter that they could not build for themselves, and swearing superhuman “gods” must have erected such walls. Who knows, just as the most fertile period of Greek myth-making came out of the oral traditions of the Dark Ages as an impoverished and illiterate age tried to make sense of the monumental traces of a lost civilization, so too soon we may think our forgotten dam builders and water project architects of the last century were Apollo or the Cyclops, as we watch their legacies erode and crumble.
Book Watch
I will post a review of Dick Cheney’s memoir that I just finished this morning on the Hoover “Defining Ideas” website. I’m just finishing a book review of Eliot Cohen’s fascinating history of the French-British-American-Indian fighting down the northeastern seaboard in the late 18th-century. Tomorrow I leave for my annual visit to Hillsdale College to teach a military history intensive class for the next month during my vacation from the Hoover Institution, and look forward to the change of scenery. The End of the Sparta comes out at the end of the month; the first review from Publishers’ Weekly recently came out:
Leading classicist Hanson (The Father of Us All) focuses on the Theban defeat of the renowned Spartan army in 371 B.C.E. The hero of the tale is the Theban general Epaminondas, a devotee of Pythagoras and a warrior with unconventional attitudes about warfare, life, and death. His unexpected choices—not to mention the Spartan underestimation of the Theban “pigs”—allow the Thebans to fulfill the prophecies of Sparta’s downfall, many of which focus on the farmer Mêlon (meaning “apple”), whose journey from reluctant soldier to enthusiastic liberator gives the novel its emotional heart. Battle scenes are conveyed in exacting detail; a glossary of names and numerous line diagrams help readers differentiate characters and envisage the sites of central dramas. Told in a somewhat elevated style that simultaneously honors and updates the rhetorical heights of classic Greek histories, Hanson’s novel is both old-fashioned and lively. Given his notable body of work, it’s no wonder that his first fiction effort is rich in authentic detail and narrated with a confident authorial voice. His vigorous narrative not only offers insight into arms and armor, but also into the hearts of the men who bore them. (Oct.)







Yeh, the anti-business talk and action has gone on too long to be reversable by the Washington con artists. But isn’t the same also true for most consumers? Who is taking vacations, splurging on costly renovations or buying high-end electronics? Everyone I know has reduced lifestyles significantly.
Federal spending has gone up $1T on Obama’s watch. That’s 7% of GDP. Total GDP is up 2 or 3%, including inflation and population growth. So the private economy is about 90% of where it was pre-Obama. That fits perfectly with what I see, read and feel.
That’s not a recession. That’s a depression. It doesn’t look that bad because government workers and other administration allies are in boom times, because the stock market was up 30% after crashing 50%, and because 5 Trillion has been borrowed to paper over the disaster. But that 5 Trillion was spent and will have to be repaid. It means that when recovery does come, it will be far more difficult than it needed to be. It may take decades for stocks and real estate to get back to the inflation-adjusted highs of late 2007. The long-term damage to this economy is overwhelming, only lurking just below the surface.
It also means that if the marxists aren’t defeated in 2012, the tipping point will be passed, and the country is finished as it existed for 230 years.
Obama needs to pull off just one more con to make it happen.
ObamAA+.
That was exactly my thought! They are, along with their friends, living in the lap of luxury on our dime.
Then giving #535 million of our tax money to their friends and buddies to launder money so it comes back to them for the next election.
Exactly how much more are we supposed to take?
Then with 0000000000 jobs, he marches off to Camp David and says nothing. He really doesn’t like Camp David, because he doesn’t have the fawning crowds all over him, but if you don’t want to be asked questions, that is the place to go.
Juts call it what it is -
Obamanomics.
Inflation is nice if you’re first in line at the Xerox.
“Shut up and eat your peas!” er, pay your taxes.
What Obama expects us to eat isn’t peas.
Just sayin’.
Sad to say, federal employees are.
I have hope and it resides in the younger generation. The 20 somethings thought their parents are so Old School and thise Obama guy would be cool and also part the waters on their path to eternal fun. Well in contrast to what their teachers in school and college preached, it is very hard to get a job with a Business degree much less an Arts & Parties major.
They are not living the lives they were promised or expected. The 2009 class didn’t get jobs, nor the 2010 or 11 class. They may not understand how business works yet, or why healthy businesses are good. They now understand though that the Government has killed their chance at a career.
Both of my sons and their wives voted for Obama, now 3 of 4 have expressed how bad of a mistake that was. One business major wife still hasn’t, but if Maureen Dowd can diss the Oman, there is hope.
I’m not convinced, John. The 20 Somethings you speak of get their news and political analysis from The Daily Show with Jon Stewert. They don’t seem to know or care that it’s a comedy full of inaccuracies and hype for the sake of a punchline. These misinformed, permanent adolescents have bought into Stewert’s narrative that it’s the Republican congress that has sabatoged Obama’s presidentcy along with their future.
Just for a change of pace to the postings here. I’m another person who buys completely into John Stewart’s view. And I’m retired and voted Republican for 40 years. The Republicans have gone completely off the deep end on social and economic issues. How insane is it to damage the full faith and credit of the US to avoid any revenue increases? Obama has made mistakes, but at least he is guided by a rational view of the world.
Bert in UT @ Sep 4 9:28 pm:
re: “The Republicans have gone completely off the deep end on social and economic issues. How insane is it to damage the full faith and credit of the US to avoid any revenue increases?”
The reason the Republicans do not want ANY bargain that involves trading tax increases for spending cuts is that the spending cuts are always done in increments over a period of years. The problem is that once the existing Congress closes and a new Congress opens, the NEW Congress is no longer obligated to honor the agreements the previous Congress made. Thus the spending cuts NEVER HAPPEN. That was the reason the candidates in one of the debates ALL raised their hands to refuse a deal with $10 cuts for every $1 in tax increases… the cuts never materialize.
The Congress has a LONG track record of pulling this stunt. It isn’t a theory that arm-chair politicians sit and argue about– it is standard operating procedure in Washington.
So every candidate who raised his/her hand at that debate, refusing to deal for a $10 cut for every $1 tax increase got a huge cheer from me.
In addendum: The “full faith and credit of the United States” was never in danger from anything Republicans did or did not do.
The “default” that was threatened by Obama would never have happened. He is required by law to service the national debt, and could have easily done it by paying from the $220 million in payroll taxes that Washington receives from us every month.
The “full faith and credit of the United States” was ALWAYS about servicing the debt, which the President is required to do by law, and would have had the funding to do. Not doing so would have been an impeachable offense.
So you have swallowed the left’s talking points hook, line, and sinker.
Above type: $220 million is $220 BILLION.
I will gladly accept Mr. Obama’s and his fellow Marxists who have taken over the reins of my American Democratic Party and their proposed “Grand Bargain” with the following proviso.
I will gladly accept $4 trillion of spending cuts THIS year, and will promise to raise taxes by $4 trillion TEN years from now. It’s what they want us Real Americans to do, isn’t it?
Somehow I don’t think Mr. Obama and his fellow travelers, like murderer Bill Ayers will accept it though…
Bert, you’re no republican.
No one was going to bankrupt this country except obama. if the debt limit wasn’t raised, we still could have paid our bills.
“I’m retired and voted Republican for 40 years.”
This is a common ploy of the Dem ‘talking points’ group; pretend you are a long time Republican who is sorrowfully disappointed with the party.
I guess there’s a tiny probability that it’s true, but how could anyone who voted Republican for decades approve of anything Obama has done to the economy?
This is nonsense. Nothing would have happened if there had been a delay. No creditor would think for a second that the US won’t pay…at least for the next few years. And if there is ever a default, it certainly won’t be because of the Republicans or the Tea Party, who are trying to stop the insane spending.
So yes, this guy is a troll. Kind of a new flavor. Whiffs of Dwight / Stalin.
Please, we all knew there would be no default. The government takes in enough each month for the debt, the military and entitlements. The rest would have to be juggled. Well, that is unless obama decided to default and keep the parks open instead.
It’s strange – so many don’t understand that consumers can’t spend. Those with jobs are petrified, those without jobs or “under” employed can’t.
Companies are working on “just in time” manufacturing/delivery. They’re not spending money to “forward” produce. . .nor invest in forward looking “demands.”
And it’s all directly related to the mentality of Washington. “Tax the rich”. . . wow. . .that’s a motivating reason to invest and grow, huh?
Then there’s the assault on Boeing, Gibson Guitars, Peavey. . .the onerous EPA in regulatory overdrive. . .Salazar still in contempt of court and won’t release our oil drilling permits, and denying an Alaska permit to Shell because their EPA study didn’t include the exhaust from an ice breaker ship.
The stupidity coming out of this whitehouse is boundless. And no one wants to do anything until Obama is gone. It’s not like Obama is suddenly going to realize he’s strangling our nation. . ..so the problem becomes – we can’t recover until Obama is tossed out in 2012.
And that’s the sad part – this nation is in horrendous pain, and we can’t do anything until Obama is tossed out in the 2012 elections. That is a terribly long time for people to wait for an economic recovery. . .. the pain is so bad. . . .
We have 18 months to go until Jan. 2013…You would think the Democrats would know all this and ask him to resign early….It is mostly their constituents who are in the worse shape. I can’t believe they don’t know all this!
I think the democrat politicians are committed to ride-out the Obama train wreak. Democrats are out to loot the country and wont leave the family for something that does not pay like principles.
Once they lose 18 senators and the WH. You will see a new “New democrat” movement, but that con job will take a decade.
Con job is right on the money. Obama (for those who believed his “hope and change” jargon, is nothing but a con job. For the rest of us, he is simply a disaster.
As for Obama and Michelle’s vacations and luxury living on the backs of the taxpayer, well, they are doing what comes naturally because they are “entitled” you see, just like their voter base, only on a higher level.
I am a Federal worker, and I just want to clarify something for everyone. Congress and the Administration froze the salaries of Federal workers for FY 2011, and it is my understanding that our salaries will be frozen in FY 2012, and possibly in future years. The Federal contribution to our health benefits has also declined so that we are paying 40% or more for them. All Federal workers hired since 1985 have been under the Federal Employees Retirement System, which is basically a 401 K play–we are allowed to contribute up to $15,500 and the Federal government will match up to $5,000 of this. The Federal Government also contributes to a small pension, with for my salary grade is about $32,000/annum, when I retire. BTW, the largest bonus I ever got was $800–hardly a large sum of money, and that was before taxes! We don’t get various perks that many of may friends in the private section tell me about, like large bonuses, etc. My living costs are rising too, so Federal workers are suffering along with the rest of the American working population.
How many of your co-workers have been laid off?
At least we have jobs (for now). But RIFs are coming for FY 2013 b/c the DOD is going to be cutting across the board.
The problem with Obama is not just that he is a Socialist. He is an incredibly incompetent Socialist. But he is very easy to understand. He runs the country like it was a corrupt pay-to-play municipality. He gives all the bennie$$ to his high maintenance high dollar contributors – the Unions, the super-rich Banksters and Corporatists, the Enviros, and the Trial Lawyers. His more numerous but less demanding supporters (like the Poor and Racial Minorities) get little beyond food stamps and rhetoric, and he actively works to crush all groups (like small business) that support the Republicans. His attitude is that if small business doesn’t want to be crushed, then they need to get with the program and join Team Obama.
Well for starters, 32K isn’t a small pension by private sector standards since the private sector no longer gives pensions. If it’s inflation adjusted, it’s huge, but even if it isn’t, the NPV if you collect it for 20 years is about 350K to 500K depending on the discount rate that is used. Not bad. By the way, do you get that at 55 or 65. If you get it at 55, it’s worth a lot more. A match up to 5K isn’t bad either. Over 30 years, it’s quite a sum, isn’t it? If you can earn 3% above inflation on it it will be $250K in today’s dollars, 6% above inflation would be $425K in today’s dollars. Of course, that one depends on you having the discipline to save yourself.
And it must be nice having a job when 10% of the country has been laid off in the last few years.
btw, I don’t hate all government workers. Many perform useful functions, but when the country is suffering, seems to me the pain should be shared equally. Teachers, for example should be subject to, at least, a hiring freeze (including retiring teachers) when the economy is struggling like it is now. I think the federal government hiring the last few years is beyond the pale. It’s outrageous.
Obama has added ONE TRILLION IN NEW SPENDING ANNUALLY since he’s been torturing the country. You will have to pay for that just as we will.
Many of your mates are going to be laid off when we take the government back. You seen like a good sort. Make sure your skills are up to private industry standards. It’s gonna be tough.
A former supervisor of mine is home less. He was laid off with me 4 years ago and could not get rehired. He is a skilled worker but is known to to have poor personal skills. He burned through his benefits, 401k and sold everything in his early 50s. He was getting buy tutoring but that dries up in the summer.
VDH, your description of the collective business mentality is right on target.
Every medium, small and micro business owner I know has developed and is implementing formal or informal “hunker down” plans. Most in these categories are NOT flush with cash. We’re struggling to sustain whatever “recovery” we’ve managed to achieve, working to rebuild depleted cash reserves, and trying to figure out if we can ride out the turbulence and uncertainty.
We’re not hiring, not expanding, not investing in growth and definitely not giving raises. More than a few have yet to reinstate drastic management and executive salary cuts instituted in 2008/09 as basic business-saving measures.
Obama has transformed an already risk-filled medium-small-micro business landscape into a bog of quicksand peppered with hidden landmines. Move ahead, you sink. Step right, you blow up. Each real or threatened regulation, each new attack, each tax-spend sound byte, each luxury campaign-trip-cum-vacation simply dumps more quicksand, pre-seeded with more landmines, into the bog – which extends as far as the eye can see.
Perhaps I’m just quibbling, but it’s not a sitdown strike. We show up and perform every day, no matter how much sleep we’ve lost to worry the night before, or how many hats we now wear to offset a radically reduced staff.
More than a few of us are suffering from battle fatigue, and the most pressing question of the day remains: Can we hang on another 12 (15, 18) months? It remains to be seen.
“More than a few of us are suffering from battle fatigue, and the most pressing question of the day remains: Can we hang on another 12 (15, 18) months? It remains to be seen.”
We can do more than just wait it out. We can launch a counter offensive now. Van Jones helpfully outlined the leftist-globalist-statist strategy. So he has given us all we need to defeat them. He called it “Top Down, Bottom Up, Inside Out.”
The “Top Down” tier consists of elected officials or political appointees with legislative authority (not just domestic but also at the UN and other international organizations). So for instance the far-left members of congress or the senate who ram through redistributive legislation, not to mention the president and his cabinet).
The “Bottom Up” part refers to community level activist groups like ACORN, or Code Pink. It also refers to some of the more corrupt public sector unions, whose bosses use their members’ dues to manipulate them and acquire political power. This tier closely coordinates with the “Top Down” tier.
“Inside Out” refers to anyone who works inside “the system”, i.e. major civic, cultural and even business institutions, who use their position to advance the “progressive” cause. Teachers and professors, lawyers and judges, bankers, financiers and many in the entertainment and information industries, who themselves prosper thanks to capitalism but use their positions to undermine it. This tier is especially dangerous since it is the universities which indoctrinate the media elite, and the media elite who pump out the propaganda and the cultural attacks which have so weakened and divided the nation. In the long term we will not survive unless this vast propaganda wing of the leftist-globalist-statist elite is destroyed. Their tactic is to foment “bottom up” pressure, mainly through five main “narratives”: Class, Race, Environment, War (and the related theme of Imperial Exploitation), and Family (sexuality, gender etc.). The clashes that emerge from stirring these divisive topics also serve both as wedges and as smokescreens. So this Hollywood / MSM propaganda wing of the leftist-globalist-statist elite will have to be confronted. That is why Perry had the right idea by using the word “Treason”.
I contend that if we attack the top tier directly and defeat it, the other two tiers will largely be neutralized. By “attacking” I don’t mean physical attacks. I mean formally charging the President and his cabal with Treason, and conspiring to destroy America by deliberately hobbling it economically, sowing internal discord and weakening its defense posture. By now it is clear to a large number of us that Obama is working with an international clique of globalists who use the UN and the ICC to push their vision of world-empire with “Top Down, Bottom Up and Inside Out” techniques on a global scale. This cabal has as a primary objective the destruction of the U.S. as the last bulwark of democracy and freedom. I can think of a number of specific actions that substantiate this charge. Any competent prosecutor could easily show that Obama, his administration and many of the leading lights in the Democratic party are working with this foreign entity to achieve its goals. Without doubt, in my mind this qualifies as Treason, particularly since we are at war.
Many will say that it’s unlikely we could ever get convictions, but this is not the point. The point is to fight back with a direct and open counter-offensive. To create an opportunity to completely bypass the MSM and lay the whole sordid web of Dem treachery and deception out for all the see: The power they have seized at our expense, the lies with which they have wielded our highest ideals against us, the hypocrisy that permeates everything they do, and the misery they have inflicted on those they claim to champion…
It is the ideal strategy for it allows to us to completely turn the tables, take the initiative, take the moral high ground and, if we win our case, expose and discredit these enemies of the state. Furthermore this will serve as a reminder to future generations of how easily freedom can be lost. We will then have the momentum and support we need to deregulate and unburden the economy and let the private sector start creating jobs again. We will also have set the precedent, and will be able to go after the frauds in the media and elsewhere. I wonder of there is someone in congress or in the senate courageous enough to initiate proceedings?
Shades of McCarthyism? Hell yes! On steroids. Only this time we do it right. Our goal is not to create hysteria and go after average citizens, but rather to identify only those who knowingly conspired to topple American power, particularly in the “Top Down” and “Inside Out” tiers, though there are a number of leaders in the “Bottom Up” layer that qualify too. Fortunately they have made themselves highly visible these last three years.
Gylippus:
“We can do more than just wait it out. We can launch a counter offensive now.”
Who within the criminal conspiracy in Washington D.C. is going to start the “treason ball rolling?” What republican, or maybe Eric Holder? Talk is the cheapest thing on the market these days. How about everyone getting on with the business of the 2012 election? That’s the only possible way the nation will be exorcised of the Marxist and his regime.
Run Sarah, go Mitt.
There’s one other option.
If at first you don’t secede, try, try again.
Any State that does not want to be dragged down into irretrievable ruin with the federal grabbermint would do well to consider it.
Seems to me the issue of secession was settled in blood 150 years ago. Destroying the country to save it remains an assinine idea. Reminds me of
all the little SDS jerks in college years past.
In this country based on the rule of law, getting to the point of mass violence means it’s already lost, and no matter who wins, civil war means a level of destruction that would give the “winner” only a Phyrric (sp?) victory. This could only be justified if the choice were truly between between freedom or slavery. That doesn’t happen while the polls are still open and honest.
Your comment and most others above assume we haven’t already lost the Republic.
Barry Goldwater’s book “None Dare Call It Treason” in, what, 1963?
You are all several generations late. We have no Cicero, and the Senate stooges assassinated him anyway, didn’t they?
Want a sign? Read the reviewer on VDH’s book. As a commenter from the next century would, after the Fall, writing from an abbey refuge for throwback individualists, he uses “B.C.E.”
By then, the “C” will stand for Caliphate.
Now that Rush Limbaugh is no longer on Fox, there’s nobody outside the blogosphere to warn people about the unlimited ambitions of Islamic expansionism. They can win only if we let them, and our own “leaders” (in both parties) seem intent on doing just that.
Muslim Brotherhood moles have made inroads into BOTH parties.
You don’t need one person to “start” it.
Initiate a class action.
Every country that is a democracy is facing this in one way or another…
I’m curious CGW, as to whether or not you think a solid case could be made. Particularly whith regards to three points: 1) Entities within government knowingly conspired to bring about the economic collapse of ’08. 2) That this administration is working in conjunction with foreign entities and organizations who are hostile to America; and c) that key figures in the mainstream media are closely coodinating with the Democratic party (and thus the globalist-statist agenda) in order to prop them up politically while pretending to be disinterested third parties?
Gylippus:
Your’re a smart guy and I suspect that your questions are rhetorical rather than indicating you might care what I may or may not think. But, I’ll give you an uneducated opinion on each of them just for the heck of it.
Have entities within government knowingly conspired to bring about the economic collapse of 2008?
Entities is too broad a term to deal with specifically. However, I do believe that individuals within government entities did indeed conspire and are continuing to conspire to carry out acts and policies that they knew or should have known would lead to an economic collapse at some point. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are examples.
It is impossible for me to believe that the likes of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were not complicit in paying off conspirators with the full knowledge that their actions were detrimental to current and future generations of Americans and the nation itself. Greed and lust for power are in my opinion, the root of the problems they helped create. 2008 as a target date, not so likely but in the ballpark.
Is this administration working with foreign entities and organizations who are hostile to America?
To state the obvious, yes! If you examine the premise of your question perhaps you might want to read or re-read “Battle Ready” and see what General Tony Zinni, USMC, had to say on the subject of various governmental agencies, NGOs and charitable organizations working to support globalization and “The International Community”.
In my opinion, from day one, the Obama administration has been currying favor with muslims, the organizations they sponsor such as CAIR, those who are working overtime to see that a mosque be built near the site of the once proud Twin towers and to some extent, even know terrorists and their minions in several nations, while on the other hand withdrawing U.S. historical support of Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East.
Are key figures in the mainstream media closely coordinating with the Democrat Pary (and their globalist-statist agenda) in order to prop them up politically while pretending to be disinterested third parties?
The question deserves a question in response? Have you ever seen and or heard the series of newsclips frequently played on TV and Radio where the most prominent purveyors of “News” in the mainstream media recite the exact words that have been prepared for the collective THEY?
Exact wording, repeated over and over on the propaganda outlets including major newspapers across the nation. Can any rational person not see and understand that today’s media players are mearly propagandists reading from prepared scrips that support a globalist future to replace preiminence of the United States of America where in days past they were somewhat objective reporters of truth and factual events?
Could I build a case? You’re damned right I could build a case but unfortunately I have neither the time nor the inclination to do so as I understand that it would be in vain in a nation populated 50% by parasites and semi-idiots.
If I’m wrong about that, then why is the United States still contributing a quarter of the cost of the corrupt United Nations after sixty years of abject failure in 99% of everything they undertake?
If I’m wrong about that, then why are people who claim they want to rid the nation of Obama the very people who have crusaded the hardest against the best person to get him out of the White House in 2012?
The misguided and relentless attacks on Mitt Romney from various quarters have now given us Rick Perry as an alternative candidate who will almost surely lose the election in 2012 and give a crumbling nation another four years of Obama’s Marxist redistributionist policies. That sir, will be The End Of The Grand Experiment.
Mitt Romney, minor blemishes notwithstanding, is the best of the announced candidates to take it to Obama. His exemplary personal life, family values and success in the private sector of the economy over more than twenty years stand him in good stead in contrast to Barack Hussein Obama. Rick Perry on the other hand is another in a long and seemingly endless stream of professional politicians who seek the office of the presidency for the fame and fortune it offers.
Conspiracy? How about Ben Bernanke destroying the the value of the U.S dollar? Could that be a woops moment, like wow, I didn’t know that was going to happen? And the President didn’t know either?
Have a nice day, and as one of the more thoughtful commenters on Dr. Hanson’s articles, please reconsider the wisdom of the stop Romney at all costs movement. Conspiracy? I don’t know, how about you?
Run Sarah, go Mitt.
May I play?
yes, yes, and yes
Thanks for your reply CGW. My question was only partly rhetorical. The rise of the bureaucratic, regulatory nanny state was the result of openly debated public policy choices that began after WWII. The UN was formed to facilitate cooperation between nations and to deter aggression. De-regulating markets unleashed economic potential, but it also enabled the unscrupulous… These policies are not, in and of themselves, treasonous. Yet all of these developments created opportunities for the concentration of power, and increased control of the political system and of individuals. It seems to me that two distinct groups took note of this and decided to try and seize control of these new power levers. 1- Collectivist ideologues and 2- Certain banks and corporations pursuing state sanctioned monopolies. The collectivists had already infiltrated academia, the media and other key social, cultural and political institutions, both domestically and internationally. It seems to me that they joined hands with the state capitalists during the Reagan years. and the result was Bill Clinton, who, along with Hillary, is affiliated with the same cabal that controls Obama. Their ultimate goals appear to be a) the breakdown of the nation state, to be superseded by b), a global regime which controls resources, production, distribution and consumption on a global scale, and which skims freely off the top without any accountability. In other words a true world totalitarian empire, with them on top.
I have to acknowledge that they have been very successful in concealing their rather ambitious power grab within seemingly plausible policies (if you are a soft-headed Lib) aimed merely at fortifying the nanny state, and bolstering international cooperation. To the point that I myself find that lines often blur and the connections grow indistinct and disappear… So its heartening to see that others like yourself and Proreason think that we are indeed dealing with treason here.
I agree with your reasoning. Greed and power-lust are indeed at the root of it, but there is a disturbing totalitarian impulse at well. I think many of these lefties are psychological cripples who are looking for opportunities to inflict their disease on the rest of us. Thanks for the Zinni recommendation, it looks interesting. Allow me to recommend Global Deception by Joseph Klein which covers some of these issues as well.
To answer your questions: I absolutely agree that much of the MSM has become both the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party, as well as a pillar of the indoctrination platform that has been built by the statist-globalist elite. This development is perhaps the single greatest threat to our freedom. That is why the charge of treason is a good tactic, it is so high-profile that it would allow us to do an end run around the MSM. They would have no choice but to cover it, and thus participate in incriminating themselves.
I disagree with your evaluation of our odds however. I think the parasites and semi-idiots are really only 20 to 25%. The rest are persuadable if the situation is clearly presented. I know from my own experience, having myself opened many eyes in the last couple years through conversation and a few casual power point presentations. I share your concerns about entrenched interests in the Republican party as well; and I am a huge fan of Sarah Palin. I think she has the exact combination of reverence for the Constitution, fiscal discipline, disdain for the regulatory nanny state, forward leaning foreign policy, traditional family values (adapted to our high-tech, fast-paced society) and anti-corruption, anti-crony instincts we need at this juncture. Having said that I see something I like in Romney too, and in Bachman and in Cain, and yes, even in Perry. I’m not saying he’s my preferred candidate but I will still walk a hundred miles in a snowstorm to vote for him if necessary, come November 2012. There are only two so far who are unappealing to me: John Huntsman is a RINO and possibly even a Dem puppet, and I think Ron Paul is out to lunch on foreign policy.
But right now I’m most impressed by Daryl Issa, who is quietly and in an unassuming way leading a direct assault on the Obama administration. He gets it, he knows where their vulnerabilities lie and he is relentlessly chipping away at their feet of clay. He may well go down as one of the great heroes of the Republic when all is said and done. If it emerges (I believe it will) that there is concrete, actionable evidence of collusion with enemy interests in the weeks and months ahead, then maybe (dan’s caveat notwithstanding) the time will be ripe for pressing our charge of “Treason”!
Counter offensive? Why?
Watching this administration is like watching an episode of “Monty Python”. Clueless with no goals or direction but filled with cliches and innuendo: they target the innocent and show how government is misdirected. Clear picture of the Obama administration. I remember the battle of Stonehenge and the departments of “do nothing”. Believe me I long to have John Cleese as president instead of the one now wearing the dunce cap.
I agree they are clowns. But they are destructive clowns. Think of the misery they are perpetuating, the lost opportunities, the debt they are saddling us with, and their constant efforts to find more ways to bind us and limit our choices.
But more importantly, we need to confront them. One could argue that it was our failure to do so in the past that got us into this mess. We are partly responsible for allowing them to take over academia and the media. We were busy trying to live our lives, and in the process creating the freest and most prosperous society in history. We ceded too many arguments to them. We failed to notice, in a focused and sustained way, that the instinctual collectivists and totalitarians (who are always present in any society) were raging at our success; and were using their freedoms to lay their plans against us. No more.
I believe this is a “teachable moment”. The Republic will not survive if we fail again. We need to roll back the collectivists by exposing their leaders and their designs. We have to force the mid-level operators back into the shadows by making them understand that we are onto them, and will not tolerate their “inside out” transformations any longer. And finally we have to win over a goodly segment of the citizenry by putting more personal responsibility back on their shoulders, maintaining an environment that is conducive to economic activity, and making the case for constitutional democracy, economic freedom and Judeo-Christian morality over and over again for the rest of our lives…
We will get through this, but it will have been by the skin of our teeth. The collectivists will come again someday. Maybe in some other guise. Let’s make sure our children are better equiped that we were for recognizing and dealing with them.
This is for Gylippus but it won’t let me reply to his response. You had me until you said “Judeo-Christian values”. So, which values might those be?
On a side note, that pipeline that Obama would like to build in the middle of the midwest from Canada so that we can poison our ground water to the point where that entire section of the country will be even more of a desolate wasteland than it already is? That whole agreement has the stink of elephant manure all over it (if you catch my drift). So just who’s puppet is Obama really? I honestly wonder from day to day if it really is the Demicans who put him in office and not the Republicrats knowing that Bush had all but slaughtered their popularity rating and figured they could just put a goat up there to deliver a deathblow to the ambitions of the Demican party under the guise of a savior for the fools that wanted to see a non-white president. It’s certainly what I would have done if I were the puppeteer and I am certain there is someone at least as cunning as I am from two or three generations ago that would still be in power today. All I am saying is, be careful what happens when you rip back the curtain on the wizard. You might not like what you find.
meian, re. Gyllipus’s “Judeo-Christian values” comment:
I cannot speak for Gyllipus, only for myself. I see it in a similar vein to how VDH sees the exploitation of all that has been built by previous generations. So it is with morality. Where does morality come from? If you don’t believe in God and take a typical modernistic view that we’ve just evolved from a big-bang of particles then morality is just whatever the most powerful says it is. But, if you understand the universe, your life, from the perspective of being created by a loving, purposeful God then what you do, to others, etc. matters. So, IMO culture, our country, has long ago moved from a basis of Judeo-Christian values to modernism. Yet, we are living on borrowed time in terms of valuing others, being civil, etc. In fact, I think that time has passed, ergo what VDH describes here in his essay.
Apologies for not being extremely articulate in the above, but hopefully it’s clear enough. You may want to just dismiss me as some religious nut (disclosure: I am a born-again Christian), but if not Judeo-Christian values, which values? Might makes right? Obama’s? Palin’s? Democrat’s? Republican’s? Muslim’s, etc. Where we are today IMO is clearly in the might makes right camp; e.g. “I won”, “elections have consequences”, etc. Eventually, the populace will tire of this, but without an absolute moral foundation they will fall for whomever the next Hitler, Lenin, etc. is.
This is why IMO from an earthly standpoint all hope is lost, but from a spiritual standpoint I know the end.
May God have mercy on us.
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Remember “they” have stacked the courts.
Reply to Meian,
Many great authors have explored the myriad ways in which the Bible set-up “the imaginative framework of an entire civilization”. For instance it is not an accident that the concept of “human rights” emerged in the West.
If I’m not mistaken both VDH and Bruce Thornton have touched on this subject in their writings as well. I would recommend Northrop Frye’s magisterial “The Great Code” as a starting point.
Whatever your beliefs, you live in a culture that was completely molded by Christianity, which is itself a fusion of Greek and Hebrew thought and belief, animated by Christ’s teachings. That is why the Left is so intent on eradicating Christianity; it remains the binding matrix of our civilization, even if we don’t realize it anymore. Without a visceral appreciation of its elemental themes and paradigms we revert to tribalism, anarchy and autocracy.
I am reminded of the ridiculous “October Surprise” hearings, based on a laughable book by former Carter official Gary Sick, trumpeted on “Nightline” among other outlets, where the Democrat Congress investigated sitting President George H.W. Bush, DURING HIS 1992 REELECTION CAMPAIGN, on the charge that in 1980 he flew on an SR-71 (while a Vice Presidential candidate of the opposing party) to meet with the Iranians to ensure that the hostages would not be released before November, then flew back to make a campaign appearance, and somehow this was all kept secret for 12 years.
From Wikipedia, “October Surprise conspiracy theory”:
Newsweek: Newsweek magazine also ran an investigation, and they said that most, if not all, of the charges made were groundless. Specifically, Newsweek found little evidence that the United States had transferred arms to Iran prior to Iran Contra, was able to account for Bill Casey’s whereabouts when he was allegedly at the Madrid meeting, saying that he was at a conference in London. But his presence at this meeting was not confirmed by those in attendance including historian Robert Dallock. Newsweek never printed a correction. Newsweek also alleged that the story was being heavily pushed within the LaRouche Movement.
The New Republic: Steven Emerson and Jesse Furman of The New Republic, also looked into the allegations and found “the conspiracy as currently postulated is a total fabrication”. They were unable to verify any of the evidence presented by Sick and supporters, finding them to be inconsistent and contradictory in nature. They also pointed out that nearly every witness of Sick had either been indicted or was under investigation by the Department of Justice. Like the Newsweek investigation they had also debunked the claims of Reagan election campaign officials being in Paris during the timeframe Sick claimed they had been, contradicting Sick’s sources.
That is so well put. I work for myself and I have battle fatigue. Our income is off 70% from 2007. Isn’t that incredible?This last year the only way my husband and I could sleep at night was to take sleeping pills. I closed shop and took this week off so I could quit ambien and get ready for the fight to come. I was born in England to a working class family, so I know what it is like to live in a western european socialist democracy. It is dehumanizing. America is more than land with bricks and mortar. It is an idea and a way of life that many people fought and died for centuries before Columbus set sail. It is a beacon to the rest of the planet and has to survive.
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Isn’t it obvious what’s going on? It’s the Revolt of Capital, just like Ayn Rand wrote about in Atlas Shrugged. The business class has gone on strike. Where is the NLRB when you really need it?
I am greatly disheartened and truly fear for my country as I never have before. Not during the darkest days of the Cold War did I see as existential a threat to my country as now. Back then we could identify who the enemy was and man the walls and be prepared to repulse him. Unfortunately, while we garrisoned the Fulda Gap we failed to garrison our school boards and local offices. Today the enemy is inside the walls and infests every aspect of our lives. I believe that we are seeing a perfect storm of converging long term strategies of erosion and sabotage of the very institutions that should have guarded against this threat. We are seeing the culmination of at least 3 decades of infiltration and the purposeful poisoning of our education system, our media and our culture in general. The atmosphere has been so poisoned that many, maybe even a critical mass, are unaware of the revolutionary and destructive changes that are occuring beneath their very feet. They have been so brainwashed and dumbed down that all the Left has to do to win is to not call themselves communist totalitarians. And then they can commit every communist, totalitarian action in the playbook with impunity, protected and given cover by the stupidity of the masses, who rather than awaken to the threat, expends all its energy in ridiculing and mocking those of us who sound the alarm. I hope that I’m wrong but am preparing for the worst.
“We have met the enemy… and he is us”.
When a sizable portion of our Americans are truly Anti-American, “Houston, we have a problem.”
I never thought I’d see the day when the power hungry narcissists would be able to operate so openly and aggressively at the deconstruction of the 10 Commandments and Constitutional Amendments while at the same time replacing them with their ideals of Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Envy and Pride in order to reach their ultimate objective.
I never thought I’d see the day when these same people decry the problems they created as if they are an outside observer, while they act sincere in offering up solutions which continue to effectively work on at least 39% of the sheeple, while many % of the rest seem to be content existing in a suspended state of normalcy bias and continue to follow the herd back and forth across the highway.
Whatever happened to the overwhelmingly number of Americans I always believed existed that had heart, character and above all, integrity?
These days are very disheartening, Ice Rider, but, don’t give up the good fight!
Those Americans you speak of Ice Rider, those with heart, character and integrity, still exist. Many, if not most of us live beyond the suffocating filth of metropolitan areas. We work hard, we play hard, and we love our families, our communities and our country. We are figuratively and literally the heartland of America. Many of us are members of the Tea Party and we are angry and fed up. Our strength grows as we actively awaken those around us to the lies of the media, the hypocrisy of progressives, and the reality of the threat that the left poses to our Constitution and to our Republic.
The left views us with fear, as evidenced by their stepped up attacks upon us and upon those who share our values and seek to represent us in Washington. They damned well ought to fear us. The election of 2010 was just the beginning. In 2012 we will show them what happens when you awaken and piss off a sleeping giant. They can belittle us, ridicule us, and paint us with all the unkind and untrue accusations they wish. The stampede is headed right for them and there is nothing they can do to stop it, or even turn it. Hang on for one hell of a ride.
When the dust settles there is going to be a lot of work to do, but who better than we determined Americans to clean up the mess and rebuild this once great nation? While Europe and much of South and Central America consume themselves through destructive Socialist policies we can and will work and grow to once again become an example to all, and a beacon of opportunity, freedom and liberty.
Well said! I will save this nice little essay.
Woodsman I had just read this article and had to take a walk to gather my thoughts. As I walked around my very clean and beautiful middle class neighborhood I came the the exact same conclusion that you have. God bless my tea party brothers and sisters.
The prospect must look much better to patriots who live in the Heartland. For us constitutionalists isolated in the metropolitan areas and their limo-lib suburbs, where even today Obama bumper stickers abound, it looks grim indeed.
I hope next year affirms your view rather than mine.
Great words and comments by all posting here (with one exception). But winning the next election is NOT going to fix what is destroying our nation. We cannot live with the left. How much more evidence does anybody need to see that we cannot coexist? So winning in ’12 is not the answer; it may be a step, but it is not the panacea of our problems.
What will you do with the 50% living off the government teat? What will you do with the unions? What will you do with the rise in black racism and violence? What will you do with the elite white progressives in 527s, and colleges? What will you do with the entrenched progrssives at all levels of the judiciary? What will you do with the entrenched progressives at all levels of the federal and state bureaucracies? What will you do with the Fed. Reserve? What will you do with the MSM?
And on and on it goes. Hell we cannot even get rid our our RINOs….
Here just answer me these broad questions: Why are we-The TEA Party-so invested in not rasing taxes on the wealthy when most of the the wealthy are progressives,i.e. Buffett, Lewis, Heinz, Bloomberg, Odummer, SOROS, etc? Why are we protecting their money? If hurting small business is what we are protecting, then how come we don’t create a wealth tax on these clowns. Or have a small business exemption on rasing business taxes and income on the “rich”. How come we don’t tax union dues used for political purposes? How come leftist political 527s and charities are not taxed?
I will bet anyone that even if we take the WH and Senate we will not shut the doors to the EPA, NLRB, or Dept of Energy. Any takers???
There is only ONE solution.
Winning in ’12 is not the answer.
Excellent (though incredibly depressing) post, LGoPs. And really fine responses from the other thread contributors, too.
I was sincerely surprised when Obama was elected. I really never thought that a person who did not have core American values (and was quite possibly anti-American), had no experience and no evidence of an ability to lead could be elected. It was clear to me that he’d been passed along his entire life because of his persona and his race. Certainly the media was breathtakingly derelict in their coverage, but anyone who had the most superficial knowledge of him had to have seen there was, at best, nothing there.
That’s what disturbs me. I’d like to think that the population was fooled, but I don’t think Americans are stupid. I think they overlooked all of these shortcomings for a PC fantasy because that truly was the most important thing to them at the time. The question is, can they learn? He’s brought us to the brink and worsened so many of the problems we already had- class warfare, union vs. nonunion, racism, illegal immigrant vs. citizen, public vs. private, the list goes on. Maybe this is all going to be cathartic, and people will realize just how destructive its all been and that we need to pull back from the edge. Or maybe America has changed, and we are about to go over. Either way, the tipping point is fast approaching.
I think things will get worse before they get better, and I’m afraid in a way I have never been before. November of 2012 can’t come soon enough. I hope we make it until then.
I wish I could be that optimistic. The polls show that there is a substantial percentage of Americans who are still in love with this imposter (be it PC nonsense, handouts or something else.) It is going to be very close next ovember and I am afraid the drive-bys will do their best to perpetuate their lies from 2008.
yes, that’s what I meant about a tipping point- it could go either way. And if we get another four years of Obama, this country may not recover, at least in my lifetime. Personally, I’m cutting back on my spending and riskier investments, not because I think that the economy is going to be bad for the next few months, but because I think my kids will need all the help they can get in 10, 20, or 30 years.
Dana, your second and third paragraphs are the most lucid, concise and accurate description of what happened in 2008 and where we are now as a result of it that I have come across anywhere. Thank you.
We are indeed fast approaching a tipping point if we are not, in fact, already there .
Winston Churchill once famously said that there are times when it is not enough to do our best. There are times when we must do what is necessary.
At this point in our history, it is not enough to do our best to unseat Obama. This is a time when we must do what is necessary.
Thank you, Kirk.
And I agree. Another four years of this and we’ll be past the tipping point, falling into a place from which I don’t think we can emerge. At least, not in my lifetime.
LGoPs You may not be entirely right but you are far from being completely wrong. This infiltration began somewhere around or before 1870, not just 30 years ago. It was called Bolshevik and originated in Russia with revolution as its goal. That goal has never changed. Neither has the spirit of violence it thrives on. Our education system was breached in the 1890s if not before. I have this information through my grandparents and not through the media. It was subtle subversion that deceived those who opposed it.
Every thing we are combating now was put in place by Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his New Deal.
After WW II it was well established and the USDA had a strangle hold on agriculture. You had to have an allotment for a number of crops and little leeway to modify what the government allowed. I went to the GI Farm School for a time till the USDA came to the end of a fiscal year with unspent appropriations. There was a concerted effort made to get those funds spent and I made the foolish suggestion of rolling them over into the next year.
“What!! We can’t do that, too embarrassing. We have worked hard to get a 15% increase in needed appropriations and to have funds left over….”
Do you see how it is the government that keeps growing these increases? I resigned on the spot and have taken nothing from the government since till my health began to fail and I signed for Social Security and Medicare in my 70s, much to their displeasure because I waited so long to sign up which I did to get local health care and I wouldn’t be here today without that care. I do not agree that it is the best system nor that it is sustainable but it has allowed me, through the internet, to make my voice heard.
I did not have an easy row to hoe and without being in the system could not plant or sell a number of crops. With timber and cattle and an occasional outside job I stayed afloat and bought my land which is now furnishing oil royalty far in excess of a meager SS check half consumed by Medicare. While I have earned from fifty cents an hour and twelve hours on the job to $96 a day my average was not that much.
That fifty cent job I worked three summers packing peaches and I learned a great deal while on that job. It was one of my better employments. I worked for a living rather than a wage.
The upshot is that we need to not sign up for these government give away programs but rather reject them for they give nothing away but take from those who have, which is theft.
If we are to prosper both in contentment and in the material things we must be able to rejoice in the success of others. Instead we are nursing a covetous spirit and are envious of the wealthy. True, wealth has power and power can be abused but but by us? I hope not.
“Last week, I mentioned that my local community is struggling with council members calling each other names and alleging serial conflicts of interest, theft of the city’s manhole covers by public employees, and child pornography charges lodged against a policeman. This week?”
This week the mayor of my small Ohio village was charged for soliticing a prostitute in the neighboring county. He took a leave of abscence. Last year, the sheriff’s wife was sentenced 3 years for embezzling over $150,000 from the credit union at which she worked in town. It was revealved she did the same at another credit union a few years ago, but was dismissed instead of being prosecuted. The sheriff didn’t resign his post, he comes up for reelection next year, but does enjoy the new fishing boat and truck she bought for him.
Do I really need to mention which political party they are all affiliated with?
Buckeye. Stop being racist……….oops gut reaction. Wow, what party did they belong to? Can’t imagine. I would also bet that news accounts either didn’t mention that affiliation or put it in paragraph 27 of a 28 graph story.
Try this one on for size. I have offered the following bet to several liberals and have not been taken up on it once.
In a breaking political scandal, you and I will pick up the New York Times and read the lead story. If it is a GOP pol involved I will give you a dollar for every word that appears before party affiliation is mentioned. If its a Dem, you give me a dime for every word printed before party is mentioned. In the event of no party affiliation mentioned, its a flat $20.
No takers so far.
Teacher, you are correct about the bias. I suspect many people do not recognize it when it appears. Case in point, an article about an Oregon based company that is having severe financial difficulties and just may go out of business. Founder died about a year ago, son had been running the company. Not a small outfit, thousands of employees, overseas presence. The newspaper, the Oregonian, largest in state, finds it necessary to point out that the deceased founder gave extensively to conservative causes.
I can’t recall when either good or bad news about a company was accompanied by a mention that, “the founder gave to liberal causes?” Maybe if the CEO or founder is liberal it is not newsworthy, but let them be conservative and it MUST BE mentioned.
Sounds quite reasonable to me except a dime might be a bit much
All democrat– of course.
“If it is a GOP pol involved I will give you a dollar for every word that appears before party affiliation is mentioned. If its a Dem, you give me a dime for every word printed before party is mentioned.”
I realized all that 20 years ago. No party affiliation mentioned = democrat. The dinosaur media is transparent, but they rely heavily on the public’s stupidity.
I’d be willing to bet that many thousands of businesses have taken some portion of their enterprise underground.
I see evidence of the underground economy in my community. People are trading goods/services or paying cash that goes untaxed. When we live under the rule of whores & thieves instead of the rule of law why shouldn’t the serfs seek to escape the death star? When the too big to fail and their politico enablers suck the cash from the pockets of the yet to be born it is our duty to create local, untaxed economies. We are in the time of government against all, every man, woman, and child for themselves. Resistance is not futile, its common sense.
I see evidence of ‘under the table’ economic activity too. All the mexicans have jobs and American citizens are still looking for jobs. Of course the mexicans can work for $10 cash and make a living – after all the girl-friend and 2-3 or more kids are on Washington state public assistance with all the amenities that come with that status. Food stamps – check — medical – check — dental – check – WIC for pregnant women and young children – also check.
Please explain to me how the hell any woman that can’t speak a lick of English can get on public assistance?
Stupid me – I always thought you had to be a RESIDENT of this state to get aid.
Those of us who are working on the books, but not really earning enough to get by, are not eligible for any of that assistance, even though those who receive it enjoy a better standard of living than we do. Nonetheless, we are taxed to pay for it, AND to pay for the bureaucracy at the state level that supports it. Go figure.
Washington state, eh? That explains a lot. Illegal immigration wasn’t a problem that concerened the good folk there as long as only U.S. southern border states were being slammed. Now take your medicine like a man, you deserve it – good and hard.
Please explain to me how the hell any woman that can’t speak a lick of English can get on public assistance?
Easy, all those federal rules that were imposed while you ignored the illegal immigration crisis in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s (because it only affected California, Texas, Arizona…) require that state “social service” agencies pay up for translators, translations of application forms into Spanish, advertising to come on down and sign up for the free money broadcast on the Spanish-language TV and radio, etc.
A Washington-stater who’s shocked, shocked to discover that 40 million illegals and their offspring weren’t all going to remain in Los Angeles, El Paso, or Tuscon – ha! folks like you are practically a stereotype (along with your just-as-shocked counterparts in Maine, Georgia, Montana, Ohio, and everywhere else in the sleepy communities of It Can’t Happen Here scattered across America).
Charlotte, NC, 2000 miles or so from the Mexican border, is looking more and more each day like the southern California we thought we left behind.
Mind you, I ain’t talking about the landscape or the climate, more like the landscapers themselves.
Hey, you forgot Maryland. The
K. T. also see my comment to LGoPs, thread 3 at the very bottom, right now just above thread 4.
“Food stamps – check — medical – check — dental – check – WIC for pregnant women and young children – also check.
“Please explain to me how the hell any woman that can’t speak a lick of English can get on public assistance?”
For the very same reason the PMA or AAA or whatever it was called at that time when I resigned the GI Farm School got their 15% increase. If you want to believe this is all due to our demands do your research and learn some truth. All this government help has been promoted by our government, creating more and more bureaucrats with good jobs. They do have a strong interest in keeping their departments growing.
Only a true historian can comment on the present by invoking the past. Many of us remain mere observers of the present: wondering, worrying and whispering (among close friends) hoping that the affliction affecting all of us becomes a transient, temporary and total failure unable to achieve its statist goals.
I was watching National Geographic’s commemoration last week of 9/11, and was struck by the scenes of George Bush standing in the smoking rubble of Ground Zero. He was surrounded by firefighters and steel workers, and he commented in the show that he felt a “palpable blood lust” — that the people there were *not* subdued or defeated or apologetic. In the clips of that day, the men surrounding Bush are shouting “USA! USA! USA!” and you can feel their resolve and eagerness, both to start re-building and to find the perps and make them very very very sorry for what they did.
I wondered, watching those vital, strong, can-do Americans from 2001, whether (1) there would be a similar group gathered today if something were to happen again, or if they’ve all been laid off, and (2) whether we can still generate a strong and vital can-do American spirit in the face of disaster. Obama has spent the last two-plus years apologizing to the world for our strength, assuring us we are all racists and greedy and stupid, and taking money out of the pockets of the workers to give it to his unemployable base.
I agree that business is hunkered down, but I think that Americans are hunkered down, too, like a dog that has been whipped once too often and now is just curled up in a defensive position, waiting for the whipping arm to stop flailing — not because the whipper thinks he’s wrong to be whipping but because he’s just too tired to continue. At that point, I hope and pray and trust that hunkered-down Americans will rise up and tear the SOB’s throat out.
And that once again you’ll see pictures of strong people who believe both in themselves and in their country doing what Americans have always done — that we haven’t been whipped into permanent whimpering submission.
What concerns me deeply is the Obama Administration’s attitude toward the possibility of another 9/11 type terrorist attack. They say not one word about payback if anyone should dare to do this. All they do is talk about the resillience of the American people and their certainty that Americans will be able to recover and rebuild from any attack that they might suffer.
He seems to be telegraphing to all America’s enemies that they can do whatever they like, including chemical, biological and nuclear attacks, and that America will simply absorb the blow and NOT FIGHT BACK!
This seems to me to be the entirely wrong message. I want America’s enemies to hear that if America is attacked again, they WILL get all the payback the country can assemble! They must NOT be given the message that they can attack with impunity. Now, it will be very hard for them to take that threat seriously given the current occupant of the White House but it must be done, otherwise America might as well just admit that it has gone out of business as a sovereign nation.
I have to admit to (grudgingly) giving Obama a bit of credit – and I think it is due him. He’s dusted quite a few of the bad guys in Pakistan these past few years. I don’t know if the motivation is from knowing the uproar that would ensue should word get out that we had (fill in the blank) in our sites and didn’t take the shot or just a desire on his part to get the bad guys.
What I don’t understand is his total resistance to water-board some insurgents ass that needs it!
Sometimes things just do not add up.
Ironically, the “antiwar liberal” candidate Obama turned out to be a more effective foreign-policy President than a domestic one: Osama bin Laden is dead, Qaddafi is out of power, we’ve had flying drones taking out other terrorists. al-Qaeda is weaker now than ever. And Obama has been trying to get more free-trade agreements through Congress (though his insistence on stronger labor protections hasn’t helped). That’s not a bad track record–especially when compared with his track record on domestic economic issues.
What will be truly ironic is all the Dem orators at the Dem National Convention who will be touting “Obama got Osama bin Laden!” in front of an audience of delegates sprinkled with Code Pink regalia.
al-Qaeda is weaker now than ever
Al Qaeda is weaker now than ever because they went into Iraq and tried to start a civil war by killing Iraqis. Al Qaeda then got their dead asses handed to them by the American military. The Surge targeted al Qaeda and peace broke out. The communications-challenged Bush Administration won the war but lost propaganda battle against the American Left.
“The communications-challenged Bush Administration won the war but lost propaganda battle against the American Left.”
Terry, very well said. You could apply your statement to McCains presidential campaign, as well as to todays Republicans.
“And Obama has been trying to get more free-trade agreements through Congress”
This is not a good thing, IMO.
One of the only ways we’ll see job growth in this country (not govt. tranfer payments/jobs programs) is if we reverse these free-trade agreements and start making countries like China play on a level playing field; e.g. with repect to wages and environmental controls.
This will never happen, and is exactly why Obama is in favour of free-trade, because a level playing field would hurt the ruling class (e.g. Soros).
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actually he has not sent any trade bills to the Hill because he is pandering to the Unions on TAA [Trade Adjustment Assitance], a totally unnecessary Union payoff program that he trying to expand. Don’t hold your breath on the three trade bills, which will pass only in a Republican Administration, even though they would create many jobs [admittedly not always in the same industries that lose jobs].
I think he continued the drone attacks because it was the easier course of action for him, compared to ending them. I think he and his advisors understood that the technology and procedures were refined under the previous administration and he could ride on their coattails. They discounted any disapproval that might come from their base, in favor of the good press they could get by zapping al qaida. To me it is a no brainer decision to go after them in this way, but here I am feeling thankful that he did it. Nov 2012 can’t come too soon.
K.T.
Most of the individuals who believe that we should turn the other cheek rather then waterboarding known terrorists who choose to withhold critical information needed for the defense of the nation have been McCained. There are others individuals who call waterboarding “torture” in return for a government paycheck all the while knowing that the definition of torture like much of our language has been bastardized by seekers of the free lunch, egomaniacs and narcissists.
Being a patriotic American is so old hat. Go figure.
Agreed. I think the biggetst symbolic message we sent to our enemies is the fact that we dressed and prepared Bin Laden’s body and even said proper Muslim prayers over that animal before we dropped him to Davey Jones’ locker!
I loved the typical weak-kneed liberal defense of that. (wimpy voice) Well…..we don’t want to go out of our way to make them hate us more……we want them to like us….”
My response was always, “Wait a sec. we’ve been hearing this BS for ten years about how real Muslims reject terror and how most Muslims are peaceful and law abiding……so by everyone’s definition Osama wasn’t a REAL Muslim. So why did we accord him the dignity of a faith, he apparently didn’t represent.
Our enemies are even more emboldened now. I think they are understand our politics well enough and are trying to pull off some major terror attack before the next election, knowing we will, as a country, rally to the flag and the president, thus increasing his chances of re-election. And when that happens look out.
The president is a man who doesn’t know what he’s doing…and he’s doing it badly.
Or…he is transforming a nation against its will into something it never agreed to become…and he is being provided cover by those who have a mandate to protect us and instead are co-conspirators.
Either way, ignorance or malevolence…(both at once being an option still), nets us the same result.
A Soros-like deconstruction of capitalism, breaking of the bank…and replacing it with a Robin Hood fantasy…where the “rich” are robbed to give to the “poor”, so that everyone becomes poor in the end…equality achieved by theft, confiscation, graft, and anarchy.
A rebellion against success, a revolt against religion, a revolution against achievement, an assault on integrity, a war against sanity.
We are a nation led by fools. Bill Ayers runs education of our children, ACORN runs our elections, Michael Moore makes our documentaries, Sean Penn makes our movies, Paul Krugman sets our economic policy, Jeremiah Wright runs our race relations, Van Jones sets our energy policy and Rashid Khalidi sets our foreign policy.
If that is not the case, VDH, please help me to understand, please put to use your infinite wisdom to tell me how it would be different if it was or was not so.
Excellent post, cf #8. I only disagree with your first sentence: Obama knows exactly what he’s doing, coldly and calculatingly.
cf: I have followed and agreed with your comments for years. You are a good writer and a clear thinker. A quibble, tho. Stealing from the rich to give to your homeys does not result in “everyone” being poor. The thieves become fantastically wealthy and powerful.
Excellent point, Capn. I meant to say it makes those from whom they steal poor…and those to whom they toss a crust of bread remain poor…the “everyone” excluded the thieves themselves…just the people they seek to rule ended up poorer for the experience.
Thanks for the chance to fix that.
Robin Hood took from the *government* and gave it to the poor. The Socialists have taken the Loxley antagonist, and transposed it from Big Government tyranny into “greedy business leaders.”
Always enjoy your posts, cf.
Obama is right on track with his intentions to diminish and/or destroy the USA. When does the revolution start ? Passively waiting for him to be out of office will be too late. Our children and grandchildren are destined to be hopelessly in debt and enslaved to the monster one party governnent. A general strike and 10 million plus citizens camped on the white house lawn is called for by we who recall what it was like to live in a great country. Nothing short of starving the beast will work. Let Warren Buffet and the rest of the elete cronies rot before getting one more dime. Lead the way with some concrete plans Dr VDH. Talk is cheap.
See my reply to comment 2 above.
“When does the revolution start ?”
Bread and circuses!
We have how many unemployed and nary a peep out of them. (Food stamps, welfare, Dancing With the Stars, NFL, MLB, etc.)
See also my comment to #2 as to what I think a likely outcome of this would be.
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We can believe that the majority of America is awake and aware of what is going on in Washington and the States like California and Illinois. And, we all now know, there must be changes, if The Republic is to survive.
Obama has become a real threat to the “Democrat Party” whatever is left of the
traditional Democrat will need to regain control of their party, or it will be gone. Obama is the final straw, a Elite Ultra Left Politician. Supported by the News Media and the numerous companies that enjoy feeding at the Government spending contracts. Plus the numerous welfare organizations that could not survive without federal funding. Labor unions, etc.
Now with Obama, everyone is paying attention, no one imagined he could screw it up this bad , and cause the business cycle to just stop. And We can now believe that the majority of smart business men and women, have decided to do no additional harm their business. Keep the business going with the minimum manpower and cost. Service their customer base and plan no expansion. Hunker Down.
So, we may see the Democrat’s make some movement back toward the center of the political sphere, if they don’t, we could see the end of the Democrat’s as a political influence within America.
The global investment industry is running away from Socialism, look at the USA Treasury Note and Bond purchase by the European Investment Industry. They expect and need America to wake up, and lead, not follow from behind.
The Global Economy expands when American GDP Expands, America must lead by having economic freedom and individual freedom.
It will be up to each and every individual American to get involved in the next election. It could be the most important election ever, in America.
“They expect and need America to wake up, and lead, not follow from behind.”
Haven’t you heard that Obama LEADS from behind?
My point is: One cannot lead from behind. Obama is not a leader of any form.
cowards lead from behind.
We dance around the problem and never actually address it….There are very smart people on this site, yet since ive been reading here nobody mentions the actual disease…why ?
The US economy is based on a Petro-Dollar system, allowing suspended economic reality since President Nixon placed us on this path in 1971. This is the disease. It has worked well for the banking groups lending US taxpayer money until the Nation is bled dry, and then will loan the USA more to rebuild from the very collapse they created.
Iceland and Argentina were both in the same situation as USA, however their governments had the guts to tell banking families to kiss off. Both Nations are recovering in the middle of a Global economic crisis, because they had the courage to stand up to banking interests.
The GOP and DNC facilitate National Banking Fraud, Treasury and Federal Reserve embezzlement because there are no Americans left…The Nation has lost its Courage, focusing on superficial entertainment, the ” war on terror”, the “war on drugs” and balance of nonsense the Media promotes…anything to divert attention from the disease. This approach has worked so well…look around us and see what we have allowed.
Our ancestors are rolling in graves at Arlington, Gettysburg, Normandy, Boston, the punch bowl in Hawaii, the thousands of ships laying at the bottom of the worlds oceans and so many unknown authentic Americans that refused to play politics…they understood the difference between patriotism and freedom, between commerce and liberty.
Enjoy the view, your paying for it.
This is the single most cogent response on the site. And I’ll go you one further:
Why is it that all of these supposedly creative, risk-taking, entrepreneurs who could solve the economies problems in an instant insist on cowering in a corner until economic conditions are perfect? Take the taxes into consideration and plan your operations accordingly. Not too long ago, entrepreneurs were looking at top rates more than twice as high as those you face today. If you can’t make a profit, admit that you’re not as brilliant as you would have us believe, rather than trying to blackmail the government into co-financing your idea. Make an economic decision: I can make it work, or I can’t make it work. If you can, get to work. If you can’t, stop whining about “if only other’s would expect less taxes from me, I could soar.” How’s that argument any different than the welfare recipient whining about how “if only they’d had access to more student loans, lower down payment mortgages, etc.” Your grandparents made it work with much higher tax rates. I’m not saying taxes don’t need to be addressed, but to use it as an excuse for not being productive is just that. An excuse.
Maxwello – they aren’t cowering, they are laughing all the way to the bank with the future the working class folk (white and blue collar) entrusted them with. The smart entrepreneurs went to business and econ schools, they didn’t study science and engineering. They are certainly creative, they gave you CDO’s and Mortgage quants. They took away your dad’s defined benefit pension plan and left you holding the bag with your 401k & 403b’s. Meanwhile we busy ourselves pointing fingers at civil servants instead of at the folks who creatively gave us these problems. Obama is merely an extension of the same old same old… Harvard/Yale, they all have the same pedigree. The solutions will come from the bottom and work upward.
Dear Dr. Handsome er Hanson [*wink-wink*],
Zero the NON-HERO is alienating EVERYONE except for his Leftoid whackadoodle ‘base’ of hard-core commie/socialists.
Most small businesses like ours [in the unfortunate 'building & construction' biz] are fighting to just survive hand-to-mouth at this point and the idea of ‘hiring’ any extra people for jobs we DO get is pretty much impossible because we have to be so bare-bones competitive to even get a job!
We personally have been blessed with jobs to get us by where others haven’t been so fortunate but I credit that to my husband’s extreme perfectionism and attention to detail and his caring about the people he works with and for. He’s always been that way and that is probably why we can still get work with our business where others fail because they cut corners or try to screw the customer or are just plain lazy.
We took our 401k out of the stock-market last month. I have no faith in the market until the USA gets her caca together.
Keep the faith, everyone… AND VOTE THIS BASTID OUT before he successfully destroys everything and I mean EVERYTHING our brave men and women have fought for. Don’t let their blood be for nothing! EVER!
Semper fi
this is what happens when you let the stuff slide by.
this is what you get when you allow racist policies like affirmative action go unchallenged.
the parasites will take all that you give and it will never be enough. but you all though what can it hurt.
well now you know. ..welcome to africa
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Throughout our history Americans have used petitions to unite around issues they care about. We the People provides you with a new way to petition the federal government to take action on a range of issues. And if your petition attracts enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it is sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/WeThePeople
OK… This is a joke comment, right?
I have read your comment three times now, looking for the punchline.
Just as an exercise in writing, I will pretend it is for real, and offer my reply…
The current occupant of the White House, having mocked me and my concerns about securing the border (“Maybe they’ll need a moat. Maybe they’ll want alligators in the moat.”), having called me a racist because I disagree with his policies (It is my irrational “fear of people who do not look like us.”), and having lied repeatedly to me and every other American citizen about Obamacare (“If you like your current plan, you can keep it”, and how Obamacare would drive health insurance prices down)has zero credibility in the use of “We The People”.
I will petition this President on November 6, 2012. I put my faith in my fellow citizens– not the current administration– that said November 6, 2012 petition will end the need for discussion of any other petitions.
P.S. I do expect the President of the United States to use his speechifying in conjunction with his teleprompter, if necessary, to come to the defense of American citizens who are peacefully protesting his policies. The Speaker of the House likened my fellow citizens and me to Nazis, (Pelosi: You saw them…they were carrying swastikas) and President Obama remained silent. That is reprehensible, and I will not forgive Pelosi or Obama, who have proven that they are unfit to serve.
November 6, 2012. That is the day you will get your petition.
Henry, I salute you. Excellent response to the Government “here to help: us.
Sorry to throw cold water on your enthusiasm but internet “petitions” are worth the paper they’re not printed upon. They have zero force or effect other than the very brief moment of childlike self-satisfaction the signers experience; based on the delusion they are “making a real difference.” Making a difference requires actual effort and clicking a “yes” button on a webpage or forwarding a piece of chain email is not it.
“We are almost an entire generation of parasites that cannot create anything new and so feed on the capital and labor of the past.”
What’s this “we” crap? Come on – you know damn well it’s 98% the Lateeenos who are dismantling our civilization and selling it for scrap.
What VDH is observing is the growing fear of Socialism.
The Alinsky/Ayers/Axelrod team, back in ‘07, formulated a brilliant campaign strategy and sold it to the DNC. Fronted by a charismatic spellbinder with an exotic name, it was a brazen con game – the “Audacity of Hype”.” The scam was to use the banners of “Hope” and “Change” to convince th voters that Obama would place the nation on a new course to a stronger economy, unity of purpose, bipartisan legislation, tansparency, and an end to racism. The sting would be that, once in office, they would go hard and fast, balls to the wall, to legislate single-payer social medicine, inflated “entitlementS”, vast expenditures on public works, the stifling of free enterprise, so that, within one term, they would have euro-style democratic socialism so firmly entrenched that there could be no turning back. The complicit MSM would enssure opacity. The gurless, dead-ass GOP would offer no deterence.
It didn’t happen, thanks to the conservative blogosphere and the T Party.
Businesses, large and small, and wily venture capitalists, familiar with risk avoidance, abandoned any growth plans – as you confirm. The rubes and the suckers quickly perceived the con and clung to their guns and their faith. The exceptionalists sensed the rush to government intrusion into every aspect of life, public and private, and detected the rotten stench of anti-Americanism. The swing voters saw that there was something fishy.
Audacity of Hype has seriously backfired on the Dems. Their Hopes of the Big Switch is dead, finished. Their frontman is close to political rigor mortis. Not even Soros’s millions and minions can revive him, and, as the carnies say, “You can’t hype a stiff.”
The uneasiness we are feeling and witnessing is the fear of the Leninist
ideology within this Adminstration – its only transparent feature. What the right must do this time – as McCain and the GOP so pitifully failed to do – is to directly confront the Dems with their Socialist agenda, hammer them on their sore spot, linsky style and watch them in their foaming-mouth frenzies of denial.
Down here in San Diego, in our quiet and well-maintained neighborhood, over 23 bronze historical house and neighborhood badges have been pried from house porches and street posts in the past month. The neighborhood badges have been in place since the early 1900′s.
The neighborhood watch email quotes the officer who is it’s police contact as saying it is likely these markers have been taken to a recycler in Mexico.
#14 Lena
I am assuming that you posted that from the Organizing For America’s internet HQ.
whitehouse.gov/WeThePeople
comes as close to the perfect oxymoron as I have seen for a while.
Subotai Bahadur
SB, I too have been searching for the perfect oxymoron.
One of the top candidates is the awarding the Nobel Prize in 1949 to Antonio Egas Moniz for his invention, which there is ample evidence the selection committee adopted personally for sixty years, whereupon they proved the point beyond a doubt…. by awarding Obama his Nobel.
Antonio Egas Moniz invented lobotomy. Also referred to as: leucotomy.
The baby boomers have turned the corner. This huge spending block we have had for the last 30 years have cut off the spigot. Not only does this have huge implications for the US, but also China.
Western culture is dying. The entrepreneur spirit is dying with it. Maintaining population levels through emigration only works if the emigrants have something to offer. As of now, the only thing they have to sell are votes.
How depressing…….
Tabula rasa. Blank slate. Is Obama incompetent? Or is he hostile to America? The answer is no. Destroyers destroy. It is what they do. Whatever they think they are, whatever you think they are, what they actually do is destroy.
In Ghostbusters, they summoned the Destroyer His form became the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man. Our real-life Destroyer is the Obama Man. Whether he means to or not, he destroys. We had it coming. We allowed ourselves to become stupid, venal, and corrupt as a nation, and it leads to self-destruction. We summoned him and chose his form. It could just as easily been the McCain Man. I doubt the destruction would be any less. It might be less, but more permanent, which would have been worse.
Zero jobs. None. First time ever. Not +1 or -1… 0! Full stop. Sep 2nd. Atlas Shrugged Day. How apropos. Full stop. Done. Do you need another sign? Fiery letters in the sky, perhaps?
Deer in the headlights look? Doesn’t that suggest, however minimally, this man and his comrades came into office to do right by America as it was founded? I don’t see it. I think he was telling the truth, for once, when he was on about the “fundamentally change America” thing and that is working perfectly. Total success. The destruction is going right according to the plan. If anything they want more Cloward-Piven and “Faster Please”.
The deer in the headlights look comes from the dawning realization that they are being left out to dry by their puppetmasters. They truly thought they were inaugurating a new era of permanent progressive rule. That’s why they went all out. What they’ve done out in the open is bad enough, but it’s what they’ve done behind our backs that will infuriate the citizenry. Fast and Furious is only a tiny hint of what’s to come once we regain control and start peeling back the veil. That’s what’s really got Obama and his cronies spooked: The realization that the game is soon up, and that they’ve been had too.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: What if Obama has been driven by the political beliefs that America’s evil Imperialist Economy has to be destroyed before it can be replaced with a better system, driven by the thoughts of Karl Marx? Would his decisions make sense from such a perspective?
You betcha!
What if “Dreams of My Father” represents a “son” who longs for his father and those days of tension dear old dad had with mommy? How would his mind go about re-creating that level of emotional intensities, energies? Could Obama-Mao’s malignant narcissism be the defensive armoring employed to create these needed energies as expressed in conflict generation?
You betcha!
“The grass is greener over here!” “I’ve got a bone to pick with you!” “Get even with Whitey!”
How many slogans will work to explain this guy who is so smart, yet so dumb?
Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright…the clues have always been out there, all one has to do is assemble them like a puzzle for the real picture to be in sharp focus.
I’ve seen this picture before…real trouble, real time, really serious.
Here comes your “wake up call” even if you don’t want it!
The larger pieces of the puzzle were already in place – we got a great glimpse of what this fool was about – sad to say not many voters were paying attention.
When are you people gonna get into your thick skulls that the problem is the money supply. And that means real estate.
The money supply itself is generated almost entirely by real estate backed mortgages. And real estate is down 40% since 2006. That means the money supply is en route to go down 40% from 2006 level. So if you want society to be the same as 2006, salaries should go down 40% too. The government/FED has tried to fill the void with stimulus, quantum easing, bail outs etc. But that has just created a giant public debt instead.
Despite the historically low interest rates, real estate is still falling. Why? Because at the moment it takes on average 6 months to finalize the deals. Why? Because the banks wont/can’t finance the deficits for the sellers. THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO FOCUSED ON!!! When you fix this, the crisis is over and we can all go home. IT’S THAT SIMPLE!!! knock, knock is anybody there?
There will be no recovery, before real estate stops dropping.
America can produce. It has best quality population on the planet. The most entrepreneurial, best educated, best attitude etc. BUT if the money supply keeps shrinking, it creates so many structural problems that it is impossible to utilize that immense human resource.
Money Supply? What is that mysterious sound of printing presses that’s been going on day and night, if it isn’t supplying many billions of cheap new dollars to dilute the value of ours, scare away our purchasers of debt and make employers frightened enough to wait and see how far down they’ll take this economy?
Yes yes. I get it. You obviously think you are really clever, because you know the term “printing money”. But that’s pretty much also the limit of your knowledge.
You think you are clever. But in fact you just don’t understand how money is created. The gold standard was abandoned 40 years ago. Since then the money supply has been based on real estate. So when real estate prices fall, the money supply shrinks. And the fact that the government desperately tries to fill the void by issuing T-bonds doesn’t change the fact that money created from real estate is disappearing.
Can you understand the fact that money in general is based on real estate? Can you understand that? Or do you really think that the government “prints” it all? So where did all the money come from before Obama? Think!
JL, the money supply has not been shrinking. The Fed has been printing money. If you mean the value of the dollar has been shrinking, then, OK.
You don’t understand what I’m saying. And that’s the problem. People don’t understand where money comes from.
The government has been printing money unnaturally, because they have been disappearing from their natural resource, which is real estate. That’s the way the system is set up.
Capital based on real estate has been disappearing faster than capital based on government bonds. 2-3=-1 get it? So YES the money supply has been shrinking and it will shrink further.
Exactly where did YOU think money came from before, they started QE1, 2 and 3?
You are aware that we abandoned the gold standard 40 years ago right?
We can look at the banking system as an engine. Somebody created that engine. But he’s long gone and now nobody remembers how the engine was build. Suddenly the engine starts to malfunction. And around the engine is standing a bunch of academics (like yourself) screaming and yelling what to do about the problem. That’s our current situation.
Fact is you don’t understand the inner workings of the engine. So your input is unusable. At best it can be used to make a study on how self confidence is based on a lack of knowledge.
Ever since the US went off the gold standard the value of a dollar has not been based exclusively on real estate. It also includes the potential growth of the country’s workforce and the value (real, not politically imagined) created by the work done by the aforementioned workforce.
Internationally, it had been based in part on the premise that the debt backing the dollar will be paid back with interest without chance of default. That ability to pay it back without default is being brought into question with the drop in the USA’s credit rating.
Real-estate is just another price point that the market has to determine (free of Government intervention/regulation). Put another way, if real-estate was the end-all, be-all. Then no-one would have a mortgage where they are upside-down/underwater. Real-estate value is based on market demand, not the number of dollars that are out there.
Bottom line, the amount of outstanding National Debt is not exactly the same as the perceived market value of all the real estate in the country. Real-estate is not the correct response.
Alienating employers? There’s little doubt, but the real unanswered(unasked?) question is whether the alientation is deliberate and intentional, or the inevitable result of electing the most incompetent person ever to grace (or disgrace) the White House.
That’s the $64,000 dollar question, isn’t it? And then we have to take the next step and ask – did the electorate realize these things and just didn’t care or were they fooled by an incompetent, fawning press?
The answer to that last question will determine whether the country can rise again or just continue its slow decline. Because if the people who voted for him actually did know what the man was about, then we’re doomed.
The juries in on the question of deliberation vs competance.
If you flip a coin 100 times and it comes up heads 100 times, it isn’t luck. The game is rigged.
Liberals love jobs but hate the companies that create them.
Or as I point out to my Obamabot seniors in my economics classes. “So the Dems are the party of small business, right? That’s the engine of the country right?”
Nods and “yeses.”
So I have a small business and I grow it, work hard, hire new people, build new plants until I become a (boooooo hisssss) big business and then you hate me right? So where is that magical threshold between hero and villain, I would like to know?
I also like to point out to them in our rather up-scale high school, so all of you that hate big business, how many of your favorite products were created by small business? Your I-pad, your Blackberry, that wonderful car that got you to school here today? You better get rid of all of those.
Great points, Teacher. Too bad so few of the Obamistas have even a cursory grasp of economics, let alone the wonderful Capitalist notion of creating wealth. One hopes and prays that your probing questions to those idealistic young minds will cause at least a few of them to open their eyes and seek to learn more. Then maybe, just maybe, they will learn how to reason instead of operating on knee-jerk emotions.
Obama has certainly failed to get the economy moving.
But unlike Mr. Hanson, I don’t necessarily blame the regulatory environment under Obama. Obama missed the boat elsewhere:
There’s a lack of demand for goods and services. And business won’t expand if sales are poor.
Consumer spending is way down and remains flat. Americans are now owning their cars for an average of 14 (!!) years, instead of the 8 years which was common in decades past.
The reason for that is that Americans are in debt up to their eyeballs and simply cannot finance any more big-ticket purchases. Many are facing bankruptcy, when falling home prices made even responsible homeowners with fixed-rate mortgages upside-down on their mortgages, owing more than the homes are worth. An amazing 23% of American homeowners are now upside-down on their mortgages. (Notice that’s higher than the unemployment rate–meaning that even millions of *employed* homeowners are upside-down.) Such folks aren’t going to remodel their homes or buy cars or take expensive vacations–they just can’t afford it.
On a national level, we’re also in debt up to our eyeballs. Much of that debt is owned by foreigners. China now has the ability to devastate the United States, simply by announcing they won’t accept more American debt.
Obama and his pals, being typical Democrats, decided to fight unemployment with traditional fiscal stimulus. And both they and the Republicans decided to bail out the banks with no strings attached–so the banks are now solvent and still creditors on all those upside-down mortgages.
Obama did have the HARP program for mortgage relief. But it depends on the banks voluntarily restructuring mortgage debt. No bank is going to voluntarily restructure an upside-down mortgage, because it means losing huge amounts of money on the deal.
We just did this backwards. If anybody needed a bailout, it was responsible homeowners who did NOT take subprime mortgages, but whose homes were dragged down in value–through no fault of their own–by those who did.
And I would remind Obama and his liberal supporters that John Maynard Keynes–whom they quote frequently when it suits them–would never have approved of fiscal stimulus paid for with foreign debt. The experience of the Weimar Republic was too recent in Keynes’ memory.
sinz: “…when falling home prices made even responsible homeowners with fixed-rate mortgages upside-down on their mortgages, owing more than the homes are worth. An amazing 23% of American homeowners are now upside-down on their mortgages.”
What homes are worth is not a permanent price but a moving target, the same as the price of a stock. Suppose your mortgage is $X dollars paid monthly. That is the real price of your home. The only time the market price comes into play is when you plan to sell your home.
The advice of stock market experts, if I may be permitted to use that term, is to buy low, sell high. That doesn’t exactly apply to a house. However, the advice to a home-owner can only be buy and hold, unless you must sell or want to change location. Being “under water” is the most stupid reason to sell a house and a worse one to just walk away, just as it is a stupid reason to sell a stock; responsible people don’t do that.
The only time the market price comes into play is when you plan to sell your home.
And when you plan to refinance. Those underwater homeowners with high-interest mortgages can’t refinance to current rock-bottom rates (10-year loan at my credit union is 3.25%) with negative equity. So they’re stuck with sky-high payments, making it impossible for them to spend or save anything.
As an entrepreneur who is trying to start his fourth enterprise (my third got hammered in 2008) I agree with Mr. Hanson’s views. But I would add one more – uncertainty. In gauging market conditions, and what they might be in the future, its a bit like finding your way as fogs of different thickness roll in and out. You see enough of horizon to move forward. Today, due to ObamaWorld, we are blanketed in a thick fog that won’t dissipate. It seems permanent. We become frozen because we can’t see anything. This is very disheartening and kills, first motivation, then the entrepreneurial spirit.
The arrogance of the Obama administration is breathtaking in terms of its belief that they can direct a market-based economy. In previous administrations the percentage of political appointees with business experience ranged from 42% (Carter) to close to 60% (Reagan). Obama’s record is 6%. That apeaks volume and equates to a major fog machine.
Even if the moronistration was stuffed with 100% business geniuses, central control would still fail.
No finite number of planners can improve on 307 million individuals making real-time economic decisions. To even suggest it is absurd.
This has been absolutely proven for 230 years. The quality of human life has been improved by orders of magnitude by free markets. If you were to graph innovation through the course of human history, the hockey stick skyrockets upward just about 1776.
The hockey stick skyrockets is right, proreason…but we have a hostile administration trying to “hide the decline”.
Productivity Interfering Socialist Stagnation via Anthroprogenic National Tinkerings (PISSANTS)have caused for over forty years a fiscal climate change in our economy. PISSANTS have caused a greenback gasbag effect, in which the leftist gasbags have increased billions of metric tons of verbal bovine excrement into our economic atmosphere and have trapped greenbacks in a vicious cycle of bloviating hot air and the chill wind of hostility toward capitalism.
Although bears seem to be doing fine, Wall Street bulls are disappearing at an alarming rate.
Although the Himalayas may not be affected, the small caps, mid-caps and even the large caps are evaporating as we speak.
While there are fringe skeptics who continue to deny that officious inter meddling nannies are and have been to blame, it is settled science that they have caused this catastrophe and no sane person can disagree. I know, because I invented the internet and the world wide web…and have taken a poll on this.
So, proreason….the hockey stick has been lodged right where it has always been intended. I just won’t be sitting down at the moment because of it.
They’re all in favor of free markets, except for the free part.
Proreason this is a good discussion. I would like to point out that the free market, like all liberty, needs discipline. That discipline comes in the form of honesty, integrity, compassion — you leave a corner of the field for the poor and the stranger — such like. It it not found in all the rules and regulations that masquerade as discipline. Real discipline is anathema to the Liberal. He instinctively knows he is in the wrong so would be the subject of chastisement.
The free market has all the elbow room it needs under proper discipline for it is an asset and not a hindrance. The Liberal fights this liberty tooth and nail and is fully union backed.
Many have pointed out that staying in business is the most powerful regulatory incentive.
I’m not a purist about free markets; there are almost certainly controls that can be beneficial. However, it’s not at all clear that any of the controls are necessary or even beneficial. Friedman, Sowell and others can easily refute the generally accepted controls for monopolies, the environment and all others. Personally, I like contols that keep businesses from getting too large because it increases risk of failure if the industry is critical, but I would be interested to hear Sowell’s view on that.
Isn’t it now clear that government regulation itself is the greatest danger, by far, to the economy? The evidence is overwhelming. There is no question whatsoever that the government caused the housing crisis, the 2008 meltdown and now has the world economy teetering on the brink of collapsing into a new dark ages. And anybody who denies that cronyism is another massive problem is a fool. Even if the evidence wasn’t plastered over the world, it would be obvious just from knowing that government controls 40% of the US economy…that will attract corrupt businesses like honey attracts bees. When you control 3.8T annually, you control any frigging business that you want. Imagine; Obama and his nitwick university buffoons who have never run a lemonade stand in their lives can force any business, anywhere, anytime to do their lunatic bidding. Even if the economy was booming like gangbusters, that would be more frightening than anything other than the threat of nuclear war.
But they keep on coming, don’t they?
It’s not a minor problem.
I am a venture capitalist and actively pursuing my own startup at the same time. Yes, there are bright spots in the economy and I just attended a dinner where the fund I am associated with announced funding for 5 new ventures.
I can also tell you from working a room full of CEOs, CFOs and young entrepreneurs that the reason they are extremely reluctant to hire is simple: they do not think they can reliably anticipate their future business environment.
Yesterday’s announcement that the EPA’s ozone rules have been suspended is a perfect example:
Here we have a rule that lacks a rigorous scientific basis that the benefits are worth the cost and disruption. Here we have a bureaucracy that was hell-bent on imposing the rule no matter what was said during public comments. Here we have a rule that was going to have a sudden and very negative impact on business. Here we have a rule that was suddenly suspended.
Here we have a rule that could just as suddenly be un-suspended. Here we have business that could just as easily build the next plant or manufacturing facility in some other country that doesn’t have such a rule and will be free to import the finished product.
We could say exactly the same for environmental laws regarding site development or energy usage. What CEO in their right mind would subject his company to that kind of open-ended liability when he deals with capital projects that have multi-year time lines, not to mention ROI requirements? What shareholder would fail to support him in those decisions?
Companies and individuals are hoarding cash right now- afraid to invest in anything as long as Obama is at the helm. I think the best investment any of us can make is a campaign contribution to the GOP nominee for President. I fully expect that most people with skin in the game, regardless of political leanings, are going to figure out that this President is threatening their very livelihood and I expect an avalanche of cash into Republican coffers once the nominee is sorted out.
At the very least, I think my liberal friends will hold their noses and vote Republican this time around out of a pure sense of self-preservation. I don’t often listen to Rush Limbaugh, but one thing he says makes complete sense and that is “People will do what is in their economic best interest.” Nearly everyone in the private sector is worse off under this President. I think (hope) they’ll ignore whatever their other political views might be and vote for their bank account, however small or large that might be. Because there is no doubt that it will shrink if Obama stays in office another four years.
while there may be some money on the sidelines, I doubt that it is as much as the politicians are saying. the last thing they want is to have no one but themselves to blame so they blame the companies for sitting on the imaginary money.
theBuckWheat –
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I hate to say it, but despite the press, the ozone rule has actually not been suspended yet. Apparently the President has written a letter to the EPA Administrator requesting that it be suspended, and presumably she will do it, but that is all that has happened. And of course the President can just as easily (particularly as a lame duck) write another letter rescinding his previous request. This is not the rule of law, this state of affairs cannot be described as anything but dictatorship. Chavez operates exactly the same way.
A California businessman posts a partial list of the regulations he must comply with and speculates amusingly what would happen ifhttp://www.coyoteblog.com/coyote_blog/2011/08/this-is-an-awesome-idea-i-want-to-propose-california-do-much-more-of-this.html
As an east coast liberal, I am deeply concerned that Obama is adding to an unfortunate stereotype, that black democrat politicians are ALL dumb, lazy, shiftless, incompetent and mendacious.
Take the adjectives black, shiftless and lazy out of your comment and you have something much closer to the truth.
There is a scary sort of deer-in-the-headlights look about Obama and Biden that is quite disturbing, as if they are thinking, “This was not supposed to happened to us. Geithner, Goolsbee, Orszag, Romer, Summers assured us that all this borrowing would turn things around — but they are all gone or leaving, so now we are alone? What to do?
Scream “I need wider powers!” – it’s what their prototype Wesley Mouch did. It’s all any of ‘em know how to do when reality frustrates their whims.
Bob, I have been itching to say something like this for a long time, and I don’t care how politically incorrect it sounds.
It’s not the “black politician” its the Black voters. Look at their track record: Maxine Waters, Cynthia McKinney, Charlie Rangel, John Dingell. They’ve been sending those same corrupt gladhanders to Congress term after term for decades and yeah, things have really improved in Harlem, South Central, and all those other places, yet they keep blindly pulling the lever.
Obama is just a reaction writ large to the way things have always been.
OK, Teach, but what can be said about voters in Nevada (Reid), Frisco[they hate that name there] (Pelosi), New York (Schumer), Mass. (Frank)? I could go on and on.
This.
“that black democrat politicians are ALL dumb, lazy, shiftless, incompetent and mendacious.”
I cannot tell a black liberal from a white liberal. The views are the same. They both will vote to steal money from the productive to give to the unproductive… while skimming some for themselves, of course.
NCBob, I have to ask why you are still a liberal? This entire mess can be laid at the feet of Liberals/Progressives, Democratic and Republican both. This is what the policies look like in actual practice. Can you deny it? Do you hate this country so, that you can still support the liberal agenda?
they cheat. it is also referred to as voter fraud.
Uh, you left one out: Shirley Jackson Lee, congresswoman from Texas.
Don’t leave out the notorious Adam Clayton Powell.
Adam Clayton Powell — that’s a name from the past. I think Rangel was elected in his place, years ago. In the last election, didn’t Adam Clayton Powell Jr. ran against Rangel in a primary but Rangel won? And all Rangel’s tax evasion stuff was public at the time. It speaks volumes about the big city machines and the advantages the incumbent has, and the fact that his supporters don’t care a whit about honesty and integrity.
Obama family tradition
VDH – It would be nice if your books were available for Kindle. I’d love to buy but I don’t buy paper books anymore.
Unclemeat, Kirk Hawley provided a link to Dr. Hanson’s kindebooks on amazon.com further down but I’m re-posting as a reply to you to be sure you get it:
Kindle store: Victor Davis Hanson
As ususal, excellent post–but I have a quibble with you writing that each individual act was not important. In my opinion, some acts rose above the background clutter and were VERY important…
1. The health care reform is one–not only the result which will discourage any sane business from hiring, but especially a small one that can stay under the compliance threshholds, but the monomaniacal passion with which Obama and the Dems would let nothing stand in their way, not grassroots protests, not hostile polling results, not even losing their 60-vote majority in the Senate. This made it clear to everyone that this administration and the Dems in Congress would pursue ideologically-driven agendas with no respect for other opinions, and that spilled over into the fears that businesses have loking at, for example, environmental and labor regulations.
2. The huge and pointless spending coupled with threatening the upper middle class (in much of the country a joint income of $250K is upper-middle, not “rich”) sends the message that (a) huge tax increases will eventually be necessary, and (b) you’ll be the one paying. Why should a business owner invest, expand, or hire, knowing that the looming tax increases and/or inflation will make it impossible for him to recoup that investment, the costs of which may sink him?
3. The NLRB suit against Boeing’s South Carolina plant.
4. The screwing of the secured debtholders in favor of the UAW in the Chrysler and GM bailouts. No one in their right mind will again invest in a troubled and heavily unionized company unless they have political protection.
5. Even tho it has been (temporarily) side-tracked, the desire for card-check and compulsory arbitration, and new proposals for very fast union representation elections to prevent employers from responding. Combine with 3 and 4, above, and any sane employer who is not unionized will want to do nothing to create any sort of changes that an organizer might take advantage of… such as add a shift or open a new facility.
While the genral psychological atmosphere that this Administration has created is indeed poisonous, I would argue that specifics such as the above have not only contributed to it, but stand out as specific actions that businessmen and investors have noted and taken seriously.
So, the speech we are all hoping for from Obama would include him declaring that he will undo all that he has implemented so far in his hostile job-killing spree, starting with Obamacare. If he doesn’t begin there, nothing will allow us to believe that he is serious about creating more jobs…and the hunkering down will continue unabated.
Sure, if he makes a big deal about uncrossing his fingers and proclaims that he was just joking the last 31 1/2 months, all will be forgiven and we will love him.
Or maybe he can say that he was running a little experiment and that now he sees that it isn’t working out the way he expected so he’s changing everything.
Or possibly he can say that he had a brain tumor that makes it impossible for him to process reality but that he has had it cut out now.
Another possibility is that he can claim that evil powers had captured someone he loves and were forcing him to destroy America or they would kill his loved one.
Maybe he will reveal that he has been hypnotized for 30 years but that one of Michelle’s farts woke him out of his stupor. That one may be the most believable.
There are a lot of possibilies for him to make things right.
An amazing article by VDH, and equally amazing and informative comments by everyone….but Janet, yours has topped them all. I too need a mia culpa if not…. forget it and get back to waiting him and the DEMS out!
the speech won’t take anything back but double down, especially on stimulus [which of course won't be called stimulus]. the main feature will be a government infrastructe bank for transportation [built on those outstanding successes FNMA, Freddie Mac]. It should be dead on arrival, but the US Chamber of Commerce and many big-business camp followers and lusting for more government money, so who knows. perhaps you didn’t know that the mysterious “shovel-ready jobs” that Obama finally admitted were not there have suddenly reappeared and could employ tens of thousands of illegal immigrant construction workers.
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Thank you, Kirk! I’m going to provide your link up-thread to ’31. Unclemeat’ to be sure he gets it!
Seems there are now two kinds of voters in the U.S.
Thos who know what it was like to live under Jimmy Carter;
And those who are finding out.
I wish it were that simple.
The larger truth is…this country was founded by Euro-centric people and became a success because of said people. Our CONSTITUTION binds us uniquely as a PEOPLE that are separate from ANY OTHER country in the world and those who seek to undermine and unravel our CONSTITUTION are betrayers of the very blood that was spilled in order to UPHOLD our CONSTITUTION and our FREEDOM.
The person playing golf and smoking cigs in the White House is a Communist and therefore he is [in essence] a CRIMINAL who regards everything Americans hold dear as being AMERICAN as repugnant and evil. If this cretin isn’t voted out and I mean VOTED OUT HARD with high voter turnout, then, America is truly doomed.
Delia:
But Delia, I saw Jeb Bush on television one day last week and he said that President Obama’s intentions were good it’s just that some of his policies weren’t working out as expected.
Do you think Jeb Bush could be wrong? Do you Think a George W. Perry presidency is the answer to America’s problems? Maybe we should just go ahead and deem the nomination of Perry a done deal. I’m sure that when push comes to shove the Bushes in the end will give a fellow Texan their support as will Karl Rove, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Bill O’Reilly and the list goes on.
You don’t need to go all the way back to the Romans and the Greeks to see the willful destruction of a country – you only need to look 90 miles south of Key West. Castro and Che went industry by industry until the entire infrastructure of Cuba was destroyed.
They went through every town and killed the mayor and chief of police. They went to every cattle ranch and shot the prize bull in the head. Destroying food production was not originated by environmentalist, but by communists. All the gold was shipped to the USSR even the gold coins that had been ripped out of the floors of important buildings. All they have left to sell is themselves.
They have a huge industry in prostitution tourism-primarily-of young girls and boys. They trade their medical personnel and teachers to Venezuela for oil. To top it off, Hezbollah is setting up a terrorist training and coordination center in Cuba.
Yet all the Hollywood elites and many black politicians think it’s a great place and Castro is a great guy.
Once when we were walking through Rome’s catacombs, our guide told us that the barbarians were able to get into Rome by going along the water flow of the aqueducts and so gained the ability to easily overpower the guards and unlock the gates, thus setting the stage for the sack to come. The aqueducts were perhaps the greatest engineering feat the world had yet seen, and yet they ended up being the key to Rome’s final downfall. I’ve often pondered that fact, and whether there are implications for us today. What is our signal achievement that will be used to destroy our civilization and culture?
Freedom. But our forefathers knew that we needed to have corresponding responsibility, hence the fall we are experiencing.
What is our signal achievement that will be used to destroy our civilization and culture?
TV News and the current media.
The Internet. We have come to depend on it utterly. My broker has no local office anymore, all transactions are via the net. My bank no longer sends paper statements, it’s all electronic. Ditto for checks; direct deposit is electronic. VOIP (telephone via the net) has replaced the old phone system. Personal telephones are really little computers that have no function without the net. News, entertainment, shopping, are all web-based now. Replenishment of grocery stores, shops, gasoline, management of the electrical grid and transport are all organized via the net.
So effectively all our communications and commerce and security depend on the Internet. If there was one point to strike to destabilize a modern country, that’s it. The severing of key fiber trunks and sabotage of a few network management machines and would stop all communications, food, news, utilities, and commerce at once.
Instant chaos results, which civilizations don’t survive because they are too civilized.
74 percent of Americans say the system is not working, that it’s broken. The system is not broken. The people who are running the system are broken. We have the lowest calibre of people in office in our history. There are some good ones, but by and large they are greedy, corrupt, sexually perverse, unknowledgable, and inexperienced adolescents. They put ideology, power, money, and their own personal advancement over the good of the country. Our Founding Fathers would shake their heads in disgust at who we have chosen to be our leaders and statesmen. The Founders pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor for our republic. What would our current crop be willing to pledge?
Obama has done one thing. He has given us the immortal words “Hope and Change”. We need that more than ever, and November 2012 can’t come soon enough.
Welcome to democracy and a free society. Thank you VDH for another concise and apt article. I’m one of those that are rarely mentioned, but whom VDH acknowleges in this article. My husband and I are 60 and 58 respectively, own a home and despite 26 years of improvements, can’t sell it with any expectation of a resonable profit. We’ve been without work for 11 months now, and have been living on our pension accumulated after years of savings, doing free lance work. We know that this is unsustainable and of course worry. We also know that we’re not alone. Like so many others waiting seems to be the only solution presently.
I do think many are becoming more aware of what a true leftist agenda looks like. It seems this country is now about 50/50 in divided allegence. I think that we are in an ideological battle and having a better understanding of those positions is paramount. Obama is not alone in his beliefs and actions. Simply, the difference appears to me to be one of believing in government as the arbiter of equality and fairness or that each individual is obligated by their actions to behave in an ethical and moral fashion according to their individulalistic circumstances. Of course this is the ideal and certainly not the reality we live in. But, I would much rather be going in the latter direction than the former.
Policies do count and affect us all. As long as we still have the right to vote and voice our opinon (hopefully an informed one), there is still an opportunity to change things more to our liking. But, as I believe we are all coming to realize, standing up for freedom as an individual is a battle fought in almost all aspects of our lives now.
What appears to be a real problem is how do we maintain a Constitutional America, and still deal compassionately with the real people that need help? Can government pre se be effective? If dealing with unsustainable debt means addressing Social Security and Medicare, what are some realistic solutions? At one point my husband and I believed we could forgo our payment as we would have enough according to well laid plans. Now, I don’t know. And, why would I turst a government bureaucracy to responsibly handle programs that a gimme culture wontingly bankrupts? We have a lot to address and must seriously do so for future generations.
All I can say is, be informed, then Voice and Vote.
The US Government has assets. Sell them.
So. this makes him ZerO-bama, right?
After reviewing most of the comments, take heart and remember this: 2010 was a landslide election repudiating the progressive vision, 2012 will most likely be a landslide election repudiating Obama (God willing)
Perhaps a few million FBI agents to track down this John Galt guy once and for all.
John Galt isn’t physical, he is the individual spirit that will rise up from the ashes and rebuild once all of this craters out.
Good joke John, but we know you have to be physical, you are typing this comment aren’t you. Now where exactly are you anyways?
proreason:
Re: Your comment in no. 2. Of course you may play if you wish. With the permission of the interrogator in chief, Gylippus, of course.
General Zinni also said, “We like to move forward in a progressive, linear manner; to get the damned thing over with, and move on. They don’t.
And in Hamlet, Shakespeare said, “Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward decoration,…”
On this day, you win the gold star. Your uncharacteristic brevity has overwhelmed me. Thank you. Now I’m going to bed if the two of you have no objection.
Give Obama at least some credit for being entirely consistent in his policies and incredibly stubborn in his refusal to change them no matter how badly they fail!
For example, Obama and Van Jones have almost deified Fidel Castro and Che Guevara, and no matter how badly Castro and Guevara ruined Cuba, they never changed their failed policies no matter how many lives and livlihoods they destroyed.
I’m part of a small business, a micro-business I guess you’d call it, and there is no cash anywhere. But worse than that there are few people anywhere. All of the other businesses we deal with have reduced their staff to minimal levels and it has affected their performance. Suppliers, millwork shops, trucking companies. It has affected ours. For the few short periods in the last couple of years when we needed and could afford help, it was hardly worth hiring anyone. The people that once worked for us had found other work, not as good, but better than nothing, and couldn’t leave it for a temporary position. ‘Experienced’ help or ‘Labor’ seemed one and the same. The only difference being what they expected to be paid. Neither could be told what was expected and left alone. They all wanted a gold star for showing up. They all wanted to hang out and talk. None of them wanted to learn anything. Many of them asked if we could wait a few weeks until their unemployment benefits expired. They also went on about difficulty paying their mortgage and the roof leaking and trying to live on their wife’s salary, and how much vacation pay was there? And how do you get to be thirty five years old and married with two kids and not know how to do anything useful? How is that possible? Don’t get me me started. We’re in deep trouble.
Obama please take another vacation. Don’t help us with healthcare, jobs, energy . Keep your EPA freaks away from us. Stay on the golf course or play some hoops. take long extended showers with guys like Ballerina Rahm and Kal Penn . Hey Kal stop getting arrested in and rolled in gay areas it could cause an embarrassment to your very important Boyfriend ( I mean manfriend) . Obama has nothing to worry about Standard & Poor’s he’s creating a shadow Standard & Poors as we work. He did the same thing with the National Black Chamber of Commerce. He got rid of Harry Alford, the president and CEO of the National Black Chamber of Commerce , a veteran and stand up guy and the media never even reported on it. He then created his own phony Black Chamber with clueless socialists.Even Barney Frank says we can just ignore it. He knew how to do that with practice with his boyfriend at Fanny Mae. Mr Alford blasted President Obama’s anti-business administration and labeled the administration “Marxist” and “fanatical.” on the Laura Ingraham Show. He said Obama told the San Francisco Chronicle that he wanted $6 to $7 a gallon so we can reduce our footprint.
Look up “black_chamber_of_commerce_president_blasts_marxist_brownshirt_obama” on youtube
Gotta run I think I hear the IRS coming.
Please Check out song called teapartiers I can’t hear you at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJfboOindCo
Here’s a verse
Doctors are retiring earlier but we’re getting 17000 new IRS
This is how Obama creates health care jobs I guess
For 235 years this country’s been God’s blessing.
Now he’s following Cloward and Piven’s to bankrupt the country I’m guessing
If Obamacare gives Grandma and Grandpa a scare
Think how when their rationed and die earlier we’ll save on healthcare
I have been looking for a way to describe what it has been like to run a business in America for the past three years and finally found someone that put the words to the climate we are working in. I have been working in American and international businesses for over forty years and never have I even thought that my government is my enemy… until now. The only thing that VDH leaves out of this article is the amazing increase in fees that my business has been charged for things like parking a legally licensed trailer for a day in a legal parking space in Denver while I worked on a project…$185. Unemployment surcharges when I have busted my butt to not have any claims over the last three years…$380 last month alone. License fees for equipment that never touches the road…thousands each year. The list is extensive and growing daily. I am truly worried about me and many of my friends who own small businesses that are slowly grinding down. As they finally succumb to the accumulation of incessant government attacks, both direct and indirect on our livelihoods the unemployment numbers will skyrocket. This cannot continue. Change will happen. Let us pray that it is toward sanity.
Bud
I am only speaking for myself, I am not an economist, I am not wealthy, or probably very bright for that matter, but my view on the economy and it’s chances for improvement are simply this;
1. Everything I buy, from gas to food to clothes, etc… has cost me a lot more in the past year or two.
2. My taxes, fees, services, etc… etc… have all gone up considerably in the past few years.
3. My income has not gone up with cost of living raises, etc…
I am spending more, getting less, and being nickle and dimed to death on taxes and fees. I can’t “buy American” even though I try to do so. So realistically, I am much worse off now than I was two or three years ago. I simply cannot afford to buy the products that need to be sold to spur job growth. If products are not being sold, how can jobs be created. I firmly believe it is the little guy like me that buys the goods that should be keeping our job situation solid, but those jobs are mostly overseas now.
So, my assessment from here in Realityville, the jobs won’t come back anytime soon, and taxing me more won’t help the situation. So let me keep what little I can to keep my family going, and you “experts” in the government…..keep your ideas to yourselves, you are killing us out here and what’s worse… my taxes are paying your salaries to do so.
“Upper Middle-Class Lament”, I am in that position. I watched as the stock market drop and saw several years of investments evaporate in days. The value of the home I built dropped over one third to a point where I am underwater on the mortgage and there is not really any chance it will return to the value I need to sell and break even.
I put three kids through college and paid the full price for them to attend good schools so that they would be able to find decent careers, only to see the job market ruined by Obama’s policies. Now California want to give illegal immigrants in-state tuition and financial aid to the tune of about 40 million a year while closing 70 state parks to save 22 million.
I am a fourth generation Californian but sadly my kids have already moved to a Red State and I am considering the same myself. Enough of the Socialist State of California. The voters in this state were so stupid that when they reelected Jerry Brown they didn’t look at his miserable record from his first two terms. I fear it won’t get better in California ever.
Thank you. This about sums it all up… The wealth of a nation, the blood and sweat and tears and self sacrifice of over two centuries of Americans, squandered by one worthless generation… They can’t leave the stage soon enough. And now their children come to rob what is left.
“he voiced a rarely heard lament” – this is rarely heard? I hear it – and think it – every day! The dollar is in the tank, inflation is 30% and rising, my 4 pieces of (theoretically) good-investment real estate are worth only a little more than we owe (only because we have always been careful to get a good deal and/or put a lot down) but way less than what we paid. Energy costs are soaring (not good for a company with a fleet of vehicles). Retail is dead (not good for a company that is a B2B to retail). When you travel internationally anywhere but Africa, you get virtually nothing for your money so a coffee ends up costing $8… (To be fair, I travel to Uganda twice a year for my non-profit and the dollar is very strong there, which is killing the Ugandan economy…) Green this and that, carbon credits, airport taxes to offset my carbon footprint… It’s all a big bunch of crap, and there’s no end in sight. I’d sell everything and hit the high seas except there’s no one to buy it all…
Freedom, liberty and personal responsibility wasnt good enough for 52.7% of voters in 2008 but fundamental transformation of America was. They were not even smart enough to ask what fundamental transformation meant. So now all of us are suffering because of their massive stupidity and ignorance. Seriously, lets turn what was once the greatest country ever over to someone who wants to fundamentally transform it…..you all got what you so happily voted for in 2008. All those young idiot kids who voted for this in 2008 are going to need a lot of hope because they will have to live with the results of this nightmare for the rest of their miserable little “USA was not good enough for us” lives. Those who got so much from the greatest county ever were the first ones to kill it off.
Obama, or should I say President ZERO, zero job growth, zero eocnomic growth, has inflicted terrible damage on the nation with his exterme left wing policies, massive wasted corrupt spending, and nation destroying levels of debt. Because of Obama we may soon look back at ZERO growth as the good days. One of Obama’s favored Green Companies, Solyndra, just went Belly Up after Obama gave them $535 million dollars. The compnay had 1100 Employees so that was $483,363 dollars per employee, and its all evaporated and all those employees are on Obama’s massive UNEMPLOYMENT lines. So while Obama was attacking business with massive costs and regulations via the EPA and NLRB he was shoveling tens of billions to the favored few special interests. And bankrupcy is what we got for it. Where is the money? How could $535 million just disappear in less than 2 years? Nobody knows, but this is exactly how Obama gave us so much debt and NO JOBS. Its the Chicago Way!
Your a bigget and a rasist!
You’re either:
(a) joking;
(b) a complete ignorant fool.
(c) an Ovomit-voter.
I conclude b & c.
Not to mention that your grammar and spelling are atrocious, manifestations of today’s Progressive education, no doubt.
Trouble is, if Obama even says he is going to fix any of the disasters he has created, his poll points will rise.
If, close to the election, he reminds the voters that he, and he alone, planned and carried out the mission that killed bin Laden, he could sway enough votes to win the election. Oh, but wait. Sony is going to do that for him by releasing their “Gutsy Call” movie in October of 2012.
It is better that he keep on with his deliberate destruction for another 13 months, than to get reelected for another four years.
In the end, the problem is not Obama, it is the ignorant and naive voters who loved this country so little, who valued what we have and who we are, so little, that they elected a lying Chicago thug to be the president of the greatest nation the world has ever seen.
California, btw, is the canary in the mine shaft; and the Progressives here will never stop. Hence each week brings us some new insanity, such as the last one, that illegals can now qualify for taxpayer funded aid, such as the Cal Grant, that goes to citizens who can’t afford college. SO, it is not enough that we pay tuition for illegals, they now get to compete for grants, fellowships, and loans – all taxpayers’ money. Right now the law says that the illegals can’t be considered until after all citizens have been processed.
Well, there is never any money left over, so watch. The next iteration of this (three part )law will be that it is unfair for illegals to have to get in line behind citizens, so quietly, the law will be amended to put them in the general pool for taxpayer dollars for education.
And the voters will keep electing these vary same legislators, and this kind of governor.
Prof. Hanson: The fellow who was the subject of the “Upper Middle Class Lament” subparagraph, noted above, and the millions like him (including this writer) are actually Obama Administration Success Stories- because we cannot afford to retire, we must therefore continue to work. Accordingly, our jobs have been “saved.”
1. VDH cited in VP’s Cheney’s book as a guest lecturer at VP’s house.
2. I’ve never understood the demonization of native Nebraskan Cheney. All he did was keep America safe.
3. The $550M loan guarantee by taxpayers of the now bankrupt solar panels mfg is a scandal that needs MAJOR investigation.
The overriding question is: Can we survive another four years of the Obaminable Snowman? My answer is: Maybe, but probably not.
we absolutely cannot. this arrogant empty suit has done more damage to the american economic engine, in two plus years, than any war, natural disaster, social uprising, or any other matter of any sort could possibly do. he is not just clueless, he is specifically dangerous. only the youth, the racial vote, and the great unwashed believe in this impostor. and that’s because they don’t know anything…..
Mr Hanson, You bring up a very good point about the psychology of business investing. I think it is more complicated, but you are right on track. A very important point that seems completely overlooked by economic historians is how this same psychology came into play in the 30′s. It is taken for fact that WW2 ended the depression, but most attribute this to the stimulus effect of gov. expenditures and deficit spending. I have long felt the real cause was the realization by many in business that war meant it was safe to invest again. During the ramp up to war certain products reliably and predictably are in demand. Suddenly it was safe to expand and the risky choice went from making an investment which would be undercut by some new FDR madness, to not making an investment in a product or service that would soon be in high demand by a the wartime effort.
This small point is vital to properly interpreting how the war helped to end the depression.
Gylippus:
Back to comment #2:
I have little to dispute in your reply to my response to your previous questions. For the most part you recite history exactly as is has played out and I couldn’t agree more with most of what you say about how certain events came about.
However, on the question of how many parasites and semi-idiots populate the nation, I beg to differ. The voters of the country did indeed vote to make Barack Hussein Obama, a Marxist, President of the United States.
Two points:
1. Perhaps James Carville said it best. To parphrase him, drag a twenty dollar bill through any trailer park and only God knows what you might attract.
That the love of money is the root of all evil is as true today as it was when it was written. It has at this point nearly overwhelmed and laid waste to our once proud America.
Of the roughly 320 million people here, many who care little or nothing about the welfare of the nation but only what they can take from it, are a much higher percentage of the population than many people are willing to admit because the truth strikes too close to home. Outrageous government payouts and payoffs at all levels are huge and still growing.
2. If you lived where I live and walked the streets and looked into the eyes of individuals you meet as I have for thousands of miles over many years, I think you would take my point. California is largely populated by mind-numbed robots looking for the next free meal or marijuana joint or perhaps a taste of methaphetamine. Crazies are on the loose and police authorities tell us they can’t control the problem, only the people can do the job they are paid to do.
Paradises such as Santa Barbara along with Los Angeles have taken steps to rid their communities of the vermin by shipping bodies to smaller central coast cities and towns. Gangs and known gangsters freely roam the streetS. We are Mexico Norte and believe it or not we recently had our very own Mexican style beheading of a 64 year old man out for a morning walk.
I believe you might have missed the transformation of who and what made up the American population 60 years ago and what it is comprised of today. The people I see don’t show up to see power point presentations and they don’t wear suits.
Political “walking around money” is no joke here. Most people are looking for a piece of the free pie and other stuff. And most of them are allowed to vote. With ballots printed in Spanish.
For those who may have forgotton by now, Angelo Codevilla wrote the ultimate description of who and what we have become. Sheeplike country class residents willing to be dictated to and seeking crumbs of largesse from the “Ruling Class”. A review of his fine article might also be in order.
Dr. Hanson led off with “There is no there there”. He got it exactly right. I wish he had been wrong.
There is nothing evil about loving the money you earn, but the lust for unearned money, manured in bribery and moistened with redistributive hand-outs, lies indeed at the sunken roots of the tree that bears the rotten fruits of sloth and envy in individuals, corruption and tyranny in nations.
You could be right. I guess we’ll find out soon enough. I know one thing for sure: you can’t win if you won’t fight.
I tend to think that most people (especially the young) wan’t to believe in a future of possibility, are happiest when they are productive, and yearn to feel connected to a society that is strong and confident. Yes, a lot of that has been badly eroded in the last few decades. But it hasn’t reached the irreversable stage yet. Not quite. The fact is that a world of incredible possibility lies at our feet, if we choose it. Sometimes with a little nudging, miracles can happen. One way or another we will have to go through the crucible soon now. May as well resolve to determine the outcome.
How about green jobs? If you give enough to a Democratic campaign fund, even the weakest of companies can get “stimulated” by the government. Example below:
Quoth the president: “The true engine of economic growth will always be companies like Solyndra.” On Wednesday, Solyndra announced it was shuttering its remaining Fremont factory, laying off 1,100 workers and filing for bankruptcy.
And the taxpayers have guaranteed the company’s debt up to $500,000,000.
This needs to be investigated. A special prosecutor. Pat Fitzgerald is the man.
How about turning to the dirty, greedy, anti-environmental, very bad man entrepreneurs?
How about a couple of executive orders:
1) Drill immediately, reducing taxes on any new oil wells.
2) Refine oil immediately.
2) Suspend any environmental wacko program than inhibits economic growth – let’s start with diesel fuel and diesel cars.
3) Create a decreased federal payroll tax/FICA for any job created in 2011/2012.
How’s that for starts to show your serious?
This site is full of brilliant people.Its actually encouraging to read a lot of what is written here, offers hope for the future.
Hanson is a rock star and adequately disects the regime and all they are about as do others here using Becks top,bottom inside out vernacular which is brilliant in itself.
Truth is I met the future Monday night and his name is Marco.
He’s a brilliant guy, down to earth,probably a lot like Palin.
His speech was classic Rubio as well.
His concerns lie with our mounting debt, how to pay it off, how we will solve the problem.
He is the future. His love of country, respect for it and love of capitalism will lead us out of the treachery that is all around us if Sarah doesn’t first.
the usa has not been the land of the free in a long time. i see a lot of usa delusion of all political stripes. the truth is the usa has become an animal farm with punk cops, millions of permits required, stupid regulations and of course anal taxation.
most americans however do not travel. if they do it is as a tourist never really understanding where they visit. hint. there are socialist countries with lower taxes, less regulation and easier labor laws than the usa. now if that does not turn your dummy light on then you are the proverbial frog that has been boiled. i know. i know for certain. me and my money left the usa in 2004. i know thousands of expats and more are leaving every day. not just from the usa but from canada and the euro continent. most of us leavers are business people that closed their business and left their respective animal farm. put a fork in usa freedom, it is long gone. no pleasure in typing this, it is sad and pathetic. but i did not make it so. and people are not going to reverse the totalitarian nature of the current usa. think the usa is not totalitarian. try running a business out of your house without a permit. try putting up a shed in your yard to house a lawn mower without a permit. try not paying your taxes. etc etc etc
I feel like I’m living in Atlas Shrugged.
Very well written piece. Obviously, the author is an historian of some accomplishment. Too bad that those who read this are not the problem, but, unfortunately will have to pay for those who are the problem.
#56. Evangeline Brabant
California, btw, is the canary in the mine shaft; and the Progressives here will never stop. Hence each week brings us some new insanity, such as the last one, that illegals can now qualify for taxpayer funded aid, such as the Cal Grant, that goes to citizens who can’t afford college. SO, it is not enough that we pay tuition for illegals, they now get to compete for grants, fellowships, and loans – all taxpayers’ money. Right now the law says that the illegals can’t be considered until after all citizens have been processed.
That sound you hear is the canary’s Cheyne-Stokes breathing. California is gone except for the cooling to ambient temperature. The latest insanity, and you cannot credibly assert that they will not pass this; is a state constitutional amendment making it illegal to foreclose on a mortgage.
http://businesslawdaily.net/2011/08/17/california-ballot-proposal-would-ban-home-foreclosures/
They are collecting the 800,000+ signtures. Short form about the provisions, from WIZBANG blog:
Add to this the detail that the new precedent under the constitution of California would then make it possible to overturn or unilaterally rewrite the terms of literally any financial agreement or contract. No one in their right mind would extend any credit to any business operating in California. Cash, either in advance or on delivery would be the only way to do business.
All I want to do is get my two family members out [and since they are struggling to keep a business open now in the Bay area, they soon may be willing to take me up on the open offer to live with us while they get sorted out here]; then the rest of them can starve in the dark. Dr. Hanson, it is time to bail.
Subotai Bahadur
So if Obama would have just encouraged American business, he wouldn’t have needed to allow the Federal Reserve Bank to print more money? This sounds like the Bank just wanted to print more money. For what reason? Another big payday like under FDR? Seems to me the problem is the Federal Reserve Banking Cartel.
Not let banks foreclose on homes … gee what could POSSIBLY go wrong??
We have met the Dorians, and they is us…
Why is “The End of the Sparta” not available on the Kindle?
With America on the verge of becoming the fiscal equivalent of Greece, it should be clear to all, that the most important prerequisite for the next President of the United States to possess, is the ability to understand and guide the Economic engine of America – to actually have the experience and qualifications necessary to lead the country out of the wilderness and back into the realm of fiscal and economic stability.
The current Administration has heartily embraced the tenets of Keynesian Economic Theory, and with a host of Academics advising a sophomoric President to chart a budgetary course towards the abyss – it now becomes readily apparent that the USS America is about to be dashed upon the rocks of fiscal reality.
With a host of broken promises, a gift for conflicting narratives on Policy Issues and a frequent air of detached Political Expediency, Obama has come to epitomize an man overwhelmed by his circumstance. This man is not a studied formulator of effective Governmental policy nor is he a fervent student of engaged Economic Theory.
The Electorate is quickly coming to the realization that the Obama Administration and the Progressive movement is wholly committed to their “Tax and Spend” agenda; a course that America understands and History demonstrates is the proverbial “Road to Ruin”.
America stands at an important crossroad in its evolution – it can continue to manifest the delusion that we can run $Trillion Dollar Deficits annually without consequence, or we can begin the process of dismantling the dysfunctional Leviathan that has come to epitomize the Central Planning Mentality out of Washington.
The United States of America is about to undergo a seismic shift in it’s Spending Policies. No longer will the Taxpayer accept or reward Leviathan, or its Political Affiliates, with an unlimited source of funding – the Gravy-Train is about to come to a screeching halt, and our Bureaucracies are about to find themselves subject to the same Economic and Fiscal realities as the rest of us.
In their zeal to push the most transparently flawed and irresponsible Spending Policies in modern American history, Obama and the Democrats have crossed a threshold and they now own the resentment of a disenfranchised American Electorate. It is a watershed that was demonstrated at the polls on November 2nd and it will be the legacy of the Democrat Party for years to come.
Gregson, I agree, we are at a threshold.
And we as a nation will go one of two ways – either we recognize the deep shit we’re in and start the very painful process of regaining sane policies and fiscal responsibility, or we don’t and have to have our collective face forcibly rubbed in the mud by out-of-control events in order to understand what needs to be done.
I’m guessing it’s the latter. Sadly.
there’s really nothing more to be said on this. obama and his crew are abject failures. the middle finger given to obama’s team of progressive (ne socialist) economists is a staggering sort of feedback. you might think that this chorus of arrogant tools would take some humility from the typhoon washing over their ideology. not for a second. led by the fatuous silver-spooned troll paul krugman of the nyt, the progressive mantra is that our efforts weren’t big enough. weren’t big enough?? are you kidding me? the lesson is that keynes does not apply, and that all the social tinkering from the great “thinkers” of the left amount to more subterfuge than good. leave markets alone, cease the hubris that you can control the outcome. put another way, paul krugman, crawl back under your rock….
Don’t forget that Obama and Krugman and all the fools in the Statist media are the puppets. Not all of the ones pulling their strings are as stupid as these braying jackasses.
The people who own the short postions that are paying off big now are still licking their chops at handing the gulible fools who elected this particular clown another of their surrogates, just of a different strip and color.
Just who that is you can tell by the way the media will trumpet their miraculous rise in the polls.
Vote for someone you would trust with your children’s lives in the next election, because more than likely you might be.
Funny I should read this now because I was thinking about this very thing earlier today. The Boeing/nlrb mess is symbolic of the idiocy of this administration. Think about it: unions got the government to put the heat on boeing because their anti-business brother obama happens to be the current white house occupant. Boeing’s board has got to be saying to themselves, “if we had just waited two years we might have avoided this mess.” How many other businesses are going to learn from this blatant abuse of power and crony behavior? When you throw in the constant threats of higher taxes, the unintelligible healthcare fiasco, and the way the president would happily watch energy prices ‘skyrocket’ (his words) if it were necessary to make his envirobuddies happy, how dumb would one have to be to blow a bunch of business capital right now? Best to wait out the business-ignorant president and his team of dunce professors.
Bpb Chapman is a retired counter intelligence man who explains how the downfall of the U.S. has all been planned for centuries. Only hope is Ron Paul or revolution. From the sounds of everyone here, at least we all recognize that something is wrong which is the first step.
http://apps.facebook.com/blognetworks/blog/bob_chapman_blog
Can’t go for Ron Paul. Old. Anti-semite. Racist. But he does have some intriguing ideas. Maybe make him US Treasury Secretary in the Palin Administration. Back to the Gold Standard.
Seen the new USDA “Daily Food group” plate? It depicts a Salmon Pilaf meal- which 15% of Americans can’t afford! In this economy, Tripe or Beef tongue would be more appropriate, with a baked potato in place of rice. If Obama wanted to, he could improve the lives of 47 million Americans in less than an hour- all he has to do is sign an executive order doubling shipments of Gov. Surplus vegetables and grains to food pantries nationwide: This would help US farmers and provide much needed relief. Obama won’t.
Image is everything and when the image is what it is with Obama, people who are rational tighten their belts and spend less, which does not help, and those who look to take from the producers see this time as a mandate to take even more.
Obama is not american, not a citizen, and ineligible for the Presidency. How he got in to office only shows the corruption of our system and the increase in the entititlement population that most politicians need to stay in power. They have put their own needs before the country unlike even the most corrupt politicians of yesteryear. Its a new game because its a new population dynamic.
Those of us that work and have small businesses see all this and feel helpless to do anything so we try to lessen our risk and keep what we have. Our home values have dropped and our retirement is non existant. Do our businesses suffer because we handle it in a way that causes us to hold off hiring or spending our money? It probably does and this has a big snowball effect as the other producers suffer as well.
When the producers in this country alter the way they behave to surivive, there is less revenue to be handed out to the entitilement population. When that happens, these moochers cry racism and call tea party types every name in the book. You dont dare take money from a class of people that feel they are entitled to it or they dig their heels in and vote for even more radical left wing policies which takes my incentive away to work.
At some point, it becomes too much. Seeing my home in Southern California turned into Mexico only leaving to go to a place where 20 years later it is like the SoCal I left despite it being well away from the border. I continue to work, my assets decrease in value, and those that hate america and try to take from it without contributing, only increase in numbers. Obama is just the face of it all.
It is not going to get any better until we do something about entitlements. Stop letting people across the border who dont follow the rules and stop giving money to americans who dont work yet continue to have kids out of wedlock so they can have income to have a home base to put all their legitimate kids in while they work the streets for non taxable income.
Forget about getting Obama out of office. Romney? Are you kidding me? Perry? Our are best options the reformed liberals who seem conservative because we have a marxist in the white house?
Ultimately this mess will be good for our country, because we either shut it down and try something else so there is no more digging of a financial hole and we become a socialist failure that will no doubt be remamed or what I hope is that the people who value this country will rise up and do something about the looter class. If we are not willing to do that, the producers will take their stuff and move to New Zealand or create pockets of resistance in Montana or some other place where the looter class has not fully infultrated and we build a new country through violence like our forefathers did. History repeats itself and dont think it wont but as the smart people die off and are replaced by idiots and non americans, life as we know it is likely done.
The flyover States should leave and form a new country any use the Consution since its not being used now. Then leave the welfare states on both ends of the country to be 3rd world states since they for all purposes already are.With out the hardworking middle states the country couls not surive.
This article mentions the term fossil fuels. What are those? I’ve got fossils in my barn they don’t burn very well. Hydrocarbons, oil and natural gas, burn These are not fossils but are made by the earth through deep geo-compression. Oil and natural gas are the true renewables, continually manufactured and stored underground for our use.
I’m still standing back and evaluating the Republican candidates for 2012. So far, I can only make a tentative judgment that both Romney and Perry would appear to be at least minimally adequate, and that I could be at least somewhat confortable with the nation being in the hands of either man. If that sounds like faint praise, it must be set against my conclusion that “inadequate” doesn’t even come close to describing my opinion of Mr. Obama. He has proven himeself to be so bad that even “minimally adequate” sounds like a tremendous improvement.
Maybe Romney or Perry or someone else will prove themselves to be better than just “minimally adequate”. The times and the present occupant of the White House are so bad, however, that I’m not at all sure that they need to be any better than that.
And it is only going to get worse. It looks like the EU is re-entering Recession, and will drag everyone else down with them. This really is turning into Great Depression II. What worries me for 2012 is a 3-way race with Trump as the independent. He would put all states in play, and could permit Obama to win reelection with only 35% of the vote. If there is a 3-way race, it is vital that the Republicans secure control of more than 26 State Congressional Delegations, for the event that the election has to be decided by the House of Representatives.
A three way race is scary but I still think the Electoral College will protect us from losing.
Remember 1980 was a three way race as well with Anderson taking 7% of the more moderate Republican vote ,Carter with 40% and Reagan still won with 51% of the ballots but in a landslide in the electoral college.
I don’t trust Trump either and think his so-called business acumen is really in who you know and who you pay off rather than an real industrial experience. I think he is a mole for the Democrats actually and in exchange for favorable licenses in the new Chicago Gambling Casinos to be awarded by Mayor Rahm Emmanuel, he gets to pretend he is a conservative and try and syhphon away some of the Tea Party vote.
One only needs to listen closely to the words of the president and he pits class against class. Vilifies those who produce, rallies crowds to violence who don’t have as much and sits on his hands as those around him fiddle while Rome burns. Your friends missives are spot-on and if the president were to see that he and the two previous administrations effectively prevented people from receiving a retirement they’ve earned, he would say he succeed. Succeeded not because he lifted all up, but knocked some down.
We live in scary times. I am glad I am younger and have a few more years to figure things out before I retire.
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