Instead, you have made assertions in hysterical language and presented no facts to back them up. I note that you do, with an admirable gambler’s bravado, double down by adding the charge that “Bush&Co helped Saddam to exercise the power that they later fought to strip him of” — but again, with no evidence.

The bottom line is that you have failed to make your case. I’m certainly not going to make it for you, nor am I going to argue this on your terms, by making the cases you invite us to make, just as you would have them made, so that you are ready to refute them.

You are wrong in what you say about “Bush & Cheney.” Prove otherwise, if you can.

“I have offered evidence elsewhere on this site showing that Bush&Co tortured, murdered…”

Sorry…this is just not true and the popular mandate (not electoral college) for Obama was less than Bush’s over Kerry.

You’ve been misinformed. It’s understandable considering the derangement syndrome the media that you watch exhibits. I understand you. Your perception of reality has been altered.

All of those millions can thank Bush. I do too. Time will tell.

I didn’t tell anyone to relocate. I was providing a suggestion for folks not happy with the overwhelming mandate provided by their neighbors. I certainly heard plenty of talk from Bush supporters over the past eight years about how you are “with us or against us” and how I could move to Canada if I had a problem with his policies.

The main reason a lot of folks insist that Bush was not our President is because of the Supreme Court intervention and massive election problems that led to both of his terms. Obama’s election is not in question. I was responding to someone who decided Obama was evil – and that he somehow would stifle our 1st amendment rights in some way not yet imagined.

I always felt free to relocate under Bush, but I believed America would come to its senses eventually and return to the path of reason. I feel vindicated.

Peace.

DS

The US military intervention was intially lame because there evidently was no immediate plan to keep the obviously instable situation in check. Once the situation got out of hand it took time to find effective tactics and then a wise strategy.
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I believe that Iraq would have EXPLODED in a spectacular way with many many more deaths and would have caused a regional war.

Would you care to elaborate on why you think things would have been worse if we had not invaded? I’m very curious to hear what would have happened in this parallel imaginary universe.
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You really should be ashamed for making these comments.

I was actually rebutting a comment @65 calling Obama a Muslim, and @102 pointing out problems under Saddam that Bush perpetuated. I’m not ashamed at all for my comments on Bush & Cheney, because their policies have directly led to all of the things I describe. I have offered evidence elsewhere on this site showing that Bush&Co tortured, murdered, and otherwise contributed to the massive violence in Iraq. But that is not the topic at hand. You also overlook that Bush&Co helped Saddam to exercise the power that they later fought to strip him of. If you care to cite some evidence of how awful Saddam’s Iraq was, I’ll be happy to rebut with the comparable figures under Bush.
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Please tell us the benefit that we will get from so-called better relations with (what?) countries. Stay with me here.

Less terrorism, cheaper oil, respect in the world, reduced military expenditures… Oh yes, one more thing…

Peace.

DS

“Also, in terms of decorum, you should call Obama “Mr. President”.”

You know, that also applies to former Presidents.

Dino:

“Americans have passed judgement on the neocons and Bush. You LOST. Get over it.”

Losing the two elections before that never shut up you left-wing assholes. We’ll continue exercising our free speech rights until BO suspends the 1st Amendment. Until then, YOU get over it.

TLM:

“he can’t possibly be this stupid.”

Don’t speak too soon!

That’s humorous about Bush and Cheney and the shredder. For the people who were lowered into it, it wasn’t so humorous.

You equate the women and children that Saddam gassed and shot to death with the violent mad men that the ongoing military operation attracted, exposed and ultimately eliminated.

Please tell us the benefit that we will get from so-called better relations with (what?) countries. Stay with me here.