clinton got 18 .x million votes 18/229=7.8% of potential voters. *
Clinton obama combined got approx 36.x million votes in the primaries. 36.x/229= 15% of the electorate, the counted collusion of a vocal minority whose aim is what?

Whose votes in and of themselves; position factions, within the aggregate counts, to grossly engage in largess, at the expense of …..all those who surround them. (this is rationalized under the banner of elitists right, but some of us know better)

229-36.5 = 192.5
192.5 million folks said Neither, or voted republican, or libertarian. The hubris of failed logic which cant properly identify missing information, and ends up encouraging those participating to act outside the actual results, as if nothing were unusual….is just broken.

Someone should step forward and define the logic of perpetuating these kind of results.

We already know Pres. Bush has a 25% approval rating……and congress as a body is struggling to hold 13%.

We have minority rule with a disproportionate amount of power accorded to a minority electorate whose achievements are 75% disapproved or 87% disapproved, depending on the body of your choice.

Somehow…..the gross electorate needs to find a way to assign to the electing, liability for the largess the elected carry out on thier behalf.

We are entering a weekend, perhaps inspiration will arrive providing the continuum of the majority with a solution.

If not we’ll persevere….its a complex problem, how to take missing information and fit it onto momentum, whose bandwidth is not broad enough to consider it.

Now this is faulty logic imbued with hubris; don’t you think?

There are landslide scale observations within the context of the above categories of numbers. ( plus or minus 3% allowed)

The 1 trillion gold dollar question, becomes; how can ANY System, reject upwards of 70% of its potential, and be worth anything?

it can not……… the feedback as expressed by its negative approval ratings…. proves this, beyond doubt.

Thus the root of the failed politics of the present, is herein exposed as simple hegemony, its manifestations as proffered by its prevailing mouthpieces..locked in, by a logic, sustained by $’s within a vacuum applied as systemic self interest, dictates.

get a clue……you broke it you buy it….a familiar sign in any good store, extrapolated onto those whose momentum is clouding ability to understand what they themselves have responsibility for.

congress sporting a 13% approval rating just does not get it.

Those of us who refuse participation wonder how many more streets, bridges, parks, boondoggles named after robert byrd do we need?

How many times will nancy pelosie credit iran for an end to hostilities in basra?

how many more chuck hagels who elevates duplicity to art, do we need?

Congress has a bandwidth problem, we know it by the electorates refusal to support them despite record amounts of money spent advertising thier egoistic selves.

Any system whose potential allows a minority to fuel its output is broken. Its advisors are the source of the negative approval ratings, not part of any future solutions.

congress is broke, its politics of pandering, have emerged as its reason for existence, its embarrassing to look at its results and ponder how it characterizes itself as elite.

Elite what? Is the better question. 87% Do Not approve the job your doing. 87% disagree with those who you routinely select as sources of your contributory content, you’ve allow into your matrix. In excluding everyone else……congress is facilitating the demise of the country by its duplicity to values not shared by the electorate.

they do this under the auspices of they are elites, and thus they know best……

if it were actually true, that your elite, your approval ratings would be reversed…….great athletic performance emerge from training. Your performance, is trained down to a level where nearly everyone posits the disgrace of your performance as standard operating procedure.

everyday……you demonstrate that; your just bought and paid for.

self interest is all you’ve got, when you deny the foundation of your systems potential the way you do.

your not elite, your a systemic stumble of jumbled self interest…..bent on preserving everything you can for them that buys ya.

dont believe me? do the math, but include; the missing information your so fond of ignoring.

don’t the last 8 years reflect pretty badly upon conservative ideas?

bush is a president that was loved by conservatives like obama is loved by liberals.
he had control of both houses and a pretty friendly media for 6 years.

and right now the state of the nation isnt looking so good for the average guy.

iraq wasnt quite the brilliant idea it seemed. but we don’t need to get into that right now.

the economy has been screwed by reckless speculation. it’s looking like that was caused by deregulation, a great conservative cornerstone.

global warming is something that needs to be addressed. from the average persons perspective it just doesnt seem likely that 90 percent of the world’s scientists have been pulling some bizarre hoax for the last 25 years.

please don’t get mad at me for these opinions, i just think it’s something that you guys will have to give some serious thought. elections are won by the guy who looks and acts like a winner, and right now thats obama.

unless mccain can come up with a confident conservative platform, i’m afraid he may be finished. being a less charismatic bush wont work, just like gore failed at being a less charismatic clinton.

Judgement occurs when someone collects and weighs all the evidence and then deliberates a decision. Obama’s didn’t have sufficient informtion, surely less than the administratin, congress, the global intelligence community, etc.

No, Obama’s stance was a knee jerk reaction certain to appeal to his liberal base. That’s all.

Ron said:

“event that I wasn’t aware of, IL and AR don’t touch. I think the point about how staggering his gaffes are would have been much more effective if you didn’t make one yourself.”

VHS actually said:

“They range from geographical ignorance (Kentucky is not contiguous with Arkansas, but it is with Illinois),”

Illinois does share a border with Kentucky.

In the Preface to his celebrated book “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” Charles Mackay (London 1852) Charles Mackay writes: “We see one nation suddenly seized, from its highest to its lowest members, with a fierce desire of military glory; another as suddenly becoming crazed upon a religious scruple; and neither of them recovering its senses until it has shed rivers of blood and sowed a harvest of groans and tears, to be reaped by its posterity”.
I read here some pessimistic comments with very dark predictions. I am not optimist and I don’t like predictions, either bad or good. We must be rational men. I see clearly: “rivers of blood” and “harvest of groans and tears” await not only the US but the entire World if the creature of sinister Rev. Wright will be elected President of the most powerful country of the World. It would be the suicide of a great nation. I cannot accept it. All my rational nature protests again this very possibility. One here could say that I exaggerate. May be. But I conserve in my memory many things that I cannot forget, and therefore I know that vague hopes lead only to disasters, resignation leaves a free space to the forces of Evil, and the moral duty of man is to fight them.
I wonder what the Americans felt when they heard about the boat people in Vietnam, camps of death in Cambodia, and what they will feel hearing about carnages organised by the terrorist after the American withdrawal from Iraq? The liberal media would blame, as always, Bush, and justify the criminals. But here there is at stake the moral responsibility of the entire nation without which it cannot exist as a nation. So who is elected as Supreme Leader of Nation, a virtuous man or a vile demagogue, will determine not only the moral quality of a nation, but is very existence.