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		<title>By: Houdini</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/amnesiatics/#comment-16006</link>
		<dc:creator>Houdini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>45. Pete:
&quot;As for your statements about Iraq, wasn’t the stated reason for invading the mythical WMD’s?&quot;

Perhaps a report from the Department of Defense right here http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918 will help you out some. Actually it would not be a good idea to let our enemies know that we had in fact found them or Al Queada would be trying to get a hold of them while our soldiers were getting them out of the country and then able to destroy them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>45. Pete:<br />
&#8220;As for your statements about Iraq, wasn’t the stated reason for invading the mythical WMD’s?&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps a report from the Department of Defense right here <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918" rel="nofollow">http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918</a> will help you out some. Actually it would not be a good idea to let our enemies know that we had in fact found them or Al Queada would be trying to get a hold of them while our soldiers were getting them out of the country and then able to destroy them</p>
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		<title>By: Freya</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/amnesiatics/#comment-15561</link>
		<dc:creator>Freya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A majority of the Democrats in the Congress, worried about the upcoming November elections, voted in October for 23 reasons to go to war against Iraq&quot;

76 responses, hundreds of readers, and no one noticed that he got this wrong?  82 Democratic representatives and 29 senators voted for the resolution, while 126 reps and 21 senators voted against it.  I&#039;ll grant that Victor Davis Hanson is not a mathematician, but I can assure him that 111 out of 258 is not a majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A majority of the Democrats in the Congress, worried about the upcoming November elections, voted in October for 23 reasons to go to war against Iraq&#8221;</p>
<p>76 responses, hundreds of readers, and no one noticed that he got this wrong?  82 Democratic representatives and 29 senators voted for the resolution, while 126 reps and 21 senators voted against it.  I&#8217;ll grant that Victor Davis Hanson is not a mathematician, but I can assure him that 111 out of 258 is not a majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Confused in Virginia</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/amnesiatics/#comment-15533</link>
		<dc:creator>Confused in Virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Hanson, thank you once again for a wonderful article.  

For those who brought up Katrina as a failure of the federal government, you don&#039;t know how the process works.  As someone else has already pointed out, it was the responsibility of the mayor of the city to ask for help from the state.  I&#039;m sure that this was a difficult step for the mayor to take from under the desk where he was scared and crying like an old woman (I am an old woman, so this is not meant to insult women of any age).  The federal government only steps in when they are invited by the governor of the state.

As for Obama having served this country for so long, I would have to say that although he claims over 20 years of public service, he seems to think that &quot;public service&quot; means that the public should serve him and not the other way around.  As for his campaign of HOPE and CHANGE, what he meant was that he HOPES that we will be left with some spare CHANGE after we finish using all of our hard-earned money on the new taxes that he is proposing.  The only &quot;hope&quot; and &quot;change&quot; I can believe in is HOPE(ing) that this country comes to its senses and CHANGE(s) leadership in the White House and in Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Hanson, thank you once again for a wonderful article.  </p>
<p>For those who brought up Katrina as a failure of the federal government, you don&#8217;t know how the process works.  As someone else has already pointed out, it was the responsibility of the mayor of the city to ask for help from the state.  I&#8217;m sure that this was a difficult step for the mayor to take from under the desk where he was scared and crying like an old woman (I am an old woman, so this is not meant to insult women of any age).  The federal government only steps in when they are invited by the governor of the state.</p>
<p>As for Obama having served this country for so long, I would have to say that although he claims over 20 years of public service, he seems to think that &#8220;public service&#8221; means that the public should serve him and not the other way around.  As for his campaign of HOPE and CHANGE, what he meant was that he HOPES that we will be left with some spare CHANGE after we finish using all of our hard-earned money on the new taxes that he is proposing.  The only &#8220;hope&#8221; and &#8220;change&#8221; I can believe in is HOPE(ing) that this country comes to its senses and CHANGE(s) leadership in the White House and in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: liberty4usa</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/amnesiatics/#comment-15526</link>
		<dc:creator>liberty4usa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“One if by land, two if by sea…
The forces are massing to dupe you and me!”

http://thenma.org/blogs//index.php/libertyforusa/2009/05/14/when-socialist-s-armies-mass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“One if by land, two if by sea…<br />
The forces are massing to dupe you and me!”</p>
<p><a href="http://thenma.org/blogs//index.php/libertyforusa/2009/05/14/when-socialist-s-armies-mass" rel="nofollow">http://thenma.org/blogs//index.php/libertyforusa/2009/05/14/when-socialist-s-armies-mass</a></p>
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		<title>By: J.E. Dyer</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/amnesiatics/#comment-15507</link>
		<dc:creator>J.E. Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Mullockheap -- thanks for a fun post, if one that induced melancholy as well.  I have to say, during my 20 years in the US Navy, no matter where we ran into the Aussies, it was ALWAYS good to see them.  Always.  Another Navy that wasn&#039;t punching a time-clock.  One of the few.

I was privileged to participate in a ceremony commemorating the Battle of the Coral Sea in 1992, and will never forget either that, or any of my other visits to Australia.  Hang in there, shipmate.  America will come about.

Meanwhile, what I really meant to say was this:  Gates and MS haven&#039;t even fixed &quot;Reagan&quot; yet, so that it doesn&#039;t show up as a &quot;mistake&quot; in MS Office.  I&#039;m betting they will fix &quot;Obama&quot; first, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Mullockheap &#8212; thanks for a fun post, if one that induced melancholy as well.  I have to say, during my 20 years in the US Navy, no matter where we ran into the Aussies, it was ALWAYS good to see them.  Always.  Another Navy that wasn&#8217;t punching a time-clock.  One of the few.</p>
<p>I was privileged to participate in a ceremony commemorating the Battle of the Coral Sea in 1992, and will never forget either that, or any of my other visits to Australia.  Hang in there, shipmate.  America will come about.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, what I really meant to say was this:  Gates and MS haven&#8217;t even fixed &#8220;Reagan&#8221; yet, so that it doesn&#8217;t show up as a &#8220;mistake&#8221; in MS Office.  I&#8217;m betting they will fix &#8220;Obama&#8221; first, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Mullockheap</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/amnesiatics/#comment-15500</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Mullockheap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 09:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, people of the left and people of the right will never agree on how to define torture and how it differs from Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.  Additionally, I would ask how communism differs from socialism? ... there is none  ... check your dictionaries.  If I were a Liberal / left-wing pinko, I would be more worried about my own fate IF the &#039;True Socialists&#039; come to power.  They do have a nasty habit of &#039;cleaning house&#039; of useful idiots.  Then, you will know all about the different forms of torture.  But, as the Democrats party base is integrally bound to Hollywood and Chicago fun parlours, then you will most likely not see it coming, which is for the better  ... hate to see a grown commie cry.

My Dear Professor,

Once again, an excellent article and a timely reminder of just where we are in the battle for the survival of life as we once knew it.  I am not an American, but consider myself a friend of what has to be the last international redoubt of freedom, a freedom which we in Australia, along with other far-flung places, have taken for granted throughout our very short history.  Of course, up until recent times, we have had nothing to fear from those who would wish to subjudicate our peoples to their will.  Australians have always had to travel abroad to find a fight and under the auspices of the British, found our first international dustup fighting against the Maoris in what was then termed as the Maori wars (now called the New Zealand wars).  Australians were also involved in: The Sudan; The Boer War (South Africa); The Boxer Rebellion (China); WW I &amp; II The Malaya Emergency  / Malaysian second emergency (Sarawak / Borneo); Korea; South Vietnam; etc etc.  For a good number of those conflicts listed, Australians have found themselves alongside Americans.  We have shared much during those times and now, find ourselves again sharing the fortunes of the most powerful nation this world has ever seen or will see.  For me, is all about power and how it is used.  It is hard to believe, having been part of and having felt the mindnumbing power of the American military, to be now looking at the American nation being held to ransom by a few weasels in Washington.

As a young soldier being returned to base in Malaysia from a six months tour of duty in Sarawak (Borneo 1965) on the ex-British aircraft carrier &#039;Albion&#039;, a few of us climbed out over the side railings (at night) and ventured along the catwalks to as close as we could get to the sharp end of the ship.  We felt the power of the wind and sea spray whipped up by what now would be regarded as a cross-river ferry when compared with the USS Ronald Reagan and other Carrier Strikeforce vessels.  I believe the power that I felt was dramatically enacted by Leonardo DiCaprio in the movie Titanic.  I was never &quot;King of the World&quot; but I could empathise with the sheer power shown by man and nature combined.  The feeling of power continued during my two tours of Vietnam and I can vividly remember being told by my unit&#039;s commanding officer that the first thing we would notice (or would be distracted by) would be the noise.  Sure enough, as we were brought up from the bowels of HMAS Sydney to the &#039;flight deck&#039;, we were at once subjected to the sheer brute force and noise of US helicopters (CH 47 Chinooks) that transported us from one world into another in little over half an hour - we were at war again alongside Americans and everything was about &#039;power&#039;.  My second tour as an adviser under MACV was again all about power and in the end, how to lose it.  The incredible air power, Naval gunfire from US destroyers &#039;on station&#039; in the Gulf of Tonkin, direct and indirect support from US 155 and 175 mm guns etc, were all a display of the power that was the United States.  Sadly, on seeing the human side of a war which was &#039;running down&#039; as if on a slippery dip, showed me that regardless of all that power at our fingertips, it could all go astray if people do not want to fight or use that power to their best advantage, or worse still, have not one inkling on what to do with it and tend to degrade and demeanour those assets.

Can you imagine the frustration that must be felt by the Admiral in charge of the USS Ronald Reagan (and other Carrier Strikeforces?)  He has the power to wipe any city in the world off the map and yet, he has to sit on his hands and wait for an order from his commander-in-chief who (to part-quote General George S. Patton Jr. when referring to the press ...  (Those bilious bastards) &quot;... [doesn&#039;t] know any more about real fighting under fire than [he knows] about [fornicating]&quot;  

1. Eme: is correct when stating &quot;Then you had to get all depressing-like at the end there.&quot;  The Cowboy @ #5 is quite astute in lamenting on the work values of government employees, particularly at the top of the heap and sums it up nicely ...  &quot;Dilemma.&quot;  And yet, the very constitution that gives Americans their values, prevents them from simply walking into the Oval Office and punching the great pretender everywhere except the soles of the feet and the roof of the mouth.  And who would there be to render assistance?  Biden; Emanuel; Gibbs and other perfumed warriors?  I doubt it - &quot;Heil to the NEW Chief/s,&quot; the true Americans who retain the values given by your extremely brave &#039;Founding Fathers&#039; and again realize that they DO have the power to &#039;right the wrongs&#039; of the &#039;One&#039;.  Have you noticed that Obama never uses any reference to your &#039;Founding Fathers&#039; ? ...  Why?  Because he does not qualify to do so ... and he knows it.

Come to think of it, I was one of those detestable &quot;government workers&quot; - Sorry Cowboy!

Here&#039;s something for Bill Gates to think about, as he is in the pocket of the Wanker in Washington:  When is he going to update MS Office programmes and stop the word &#039;Obama&#039; being shown as a mistake / spelling error? (XP at least).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, people of the left and people of the right will never agree on how to define torture and how it differs from Enhanced Interrogation Techniques.  Additionally, I would ask how communism differs from socialism? &#8230; there is none  &#8230; check your dictionaries.  If I were a Liberal / left-wing pinko, I would be more worried about my own fate IF the &#8216;True Socialists&#8217; come to power.  They do have a nasty habit of &#8216;cleaning house&#8217; of useful idiots.  Then, you will know all about the different forms of torture.  But, as the Democrats party base is integrally bound to Hollywood and Chicago fun parlours, then you will most likely not see it coming, which is for the better  &#8230; hate to see a grown commie cry.</p>
<p>My Dear Professor,</p>
<p>Once again, an excellent article and a timely reminder of just where we are in the battle for the survival of life as we once knew it.  I am not an American, but consider myself a friend of what has to be the last international redoubt of freedom, a freedom which we in Australia, along with other far-flung places, have taken for granted throughout our very short history.  Of course, up until recent times, we have had nothing to fear from those who would wish to subjudicate our peoples to their will.  Australians have always had to travel abroad to find a fight and under the auspices of the British, found our first international dustup fighting against the Maoris in what was then termed as the Maori wars (now called the New Zealand wars).  Australians were also involved in: The Sudan; The Boer War (South Africa); The Boxer Rebellion (China); WW I &amp; II The Malaya Emergency  / Malaysian second emergency (Sarawak / Borneo); Korea; South Vietnam; etc etc.  For a good number of those conflicts listed, Australians have found themselves alongside Americans.  We have shared much during those times and now, find ourselves again sharing the fortunes of the most powerful nation this world has ever seen or will see.  For me, is all about power and how it is used.  It is hard to believe, having been part of and having felt the mindnumbing power of the American military, to be now looking at the American nation being held to ransom by a few weasels in Washington.</p>
<p>As a young soldier being returned to base in Malaysia from a six months tour of duty in Sarawak (Borneo 1965) on the ex-British aircraft carrier &#8216;Albion&#8217;, a few of us climbed out over the side railings (at night) and ventured along the catwalks to as close as we could get to the sharp end of the ship.  We felt the power of the wind and sea spray whipped up by what now would be regarded as a cross-river ferry when compared with the USS Ronald Reagan and other Carrier Strikeforce vessels.  I believe the power that I felt was dramatically enacted by Leonardo DiCaprio in the movie Titanic.  I was never &#8220;King of the World&#8221; but I could empathise with the sheer power shown by man and nature combined.  The feeling of power continued during my two tours of Vietnam and I can vividly remember being told by my unit&#8217;s commanding officer that the first thing we would notice (or would be distracted by) would be the noise.  Sure enough, as we were brought up from the bowels of HMAS Sydney to the &#8216;flight deck&#8217;, we were at once subjected to the sheer brute force and noise of US helicopters (CH 47 Chinooks) that transported us from one world into another in little over half an hour &#8211; we were at war again alongside Americans and everything was about &#8216;power&#8217;.  My second tour as an adviser under MACV was again all about power and in the end, how to lose it.  The incredible air power, Naval gunfire from US destroyers &#8216;on station&#8217; in the Gulf of Tonkin, direct and indirect support from US 155 and 175 mm guns etc, were all a display of the power that was the United States.  Sadly, on seeing the human side of a war which was &#8216;running down&#8217; as if on a slippery dip, showed me that regardless of all that power at our fingertips, it could all go astray if people do not want to fight or use that power to their best advantage, or worse still, have not one inkling on what to do with it and tend to degrade and demeanour those assets.</p>
<p>Can you imagine the frustration that must be felt by the Admiral in charge of the USS Ronald Reagan (and other Carrier Strikeforces?)  He has the power to wipe any city in the world off the map and yet, he has to sit on his hands and wait for an order from his commander-in-chief who (to part-quote General George S. Patton Jr. when referring to the press &#8230;  (Those bilious bastards) &#8220;&#8230; [doesn't] know any more about real fighting under fire than [he knows] about [fornicating]&#8221;  </p>
<p>1. Eme: is correct when stating &#8220;Then you had to get all depressing-like at the end there.&#8221;  The Cowboy @ #5 is quite astute in lamenting on the work values of government employees, particularly at the top of the heap and sums it up nicely &#8230;  &#8220;Dilemma.&#8221;  And yet, the very constitution that gives Americans their values, prevents them from simply walking into the Oval Office and punching the great pretender everywhere except the soles of the feet and the roof of the mouth.  And who would there be to render assistance?  Biden; Emanuel; Gibbs and other perfumed warriors?  I doubt it &#8211; &#8220;Heil to the NEW Chief/s,&#8221; the true Americans who retain the values given by your extremely brave &#8216;Founding Fathers&#8217; and again realize that they DO have the power to &#8216;right the wrongs&#8217; of the &#8216;One&#8217;.  Have you noticed that Obama never uses any reference to your &#8216;Founding Fathers&#8217; ? &#8230;  Why?  Because he does not qualify to do so &#8230; and he knows it.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, I was one of those detestable &#8220;government workers&#8221; &#8211; Sorry Cowboy!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s something for Bill Gates to think about, as he is in the pocket of the Wanker in Washington:  When is he going to update MS Office programmes and stop the word &#8216;Obama&#8217; being shown as a mistake / spelling error? (XP at least).</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 01:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garafolo is tall??</description>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 22:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sheesh:

&quot;Shut up? Not there. But that doesn’t mean it’s not good advice. If you were smart, you’d take it.&quot; 

Uh, apparently I should take the &quot;good advice&quot; (from whom?) that Rush Limbaugh shut up? That makes no logical sense. How exactly do I do that? Did you mean to imply it&#039;s &quot;good advice&quot; to not  listen to him? I repeat: I don&#039;t. Please be advised: I don&#039;t like my president, Colin Powell, idiots like you or anyone else telling me who I should or shouldn&#039;t listen to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sheesh:</p>
<p>&#8220;Shut up? Not there. But that doesn’t mean it’s not good advice. If you were smart, you’d take it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Uh, apparently I should take the &#8220;good advice&#8221; (from whom?) that Rush Limbaugh shut up? That makes no logical sense. How exactly do I do that? Did you mean to imply it&#8217;s &#8220;good advice&#8221; to not  listen to him? I repeat: I don&#8217;t. Please be advised: I don&#8217;t like my president, Colin Powell, idiots like you or anyone else telling me who I should or shouldn&#8217;t listen to.</p>
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		<title>By: sheesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>62. Heffalumps &amp; Woozles:

“Nobody told Rush to shut up. That’s just more right wing hyperbole.&quot;

Still waiting for you to refute that. But you can&#039;t. You&#039;d rather tall Jeanine Garafolo to shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>62. Heffalumps &amp; Woozles:</p>
<p>“Nobody told Rush to shut up. That’s just more right wing hyperbole.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still waiting for you to refute that. But you can&#8217;t. You&#8217;d rather tall Jeanine Garafolo to shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Valjean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valjean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anyone needs some 2002 (or earlier) reminders, I find this page handy:

http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html

The gang&#039;s all here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone needs some 2002 (or earlier) reminders, I find this page handy:</p>
<p><a href="http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html" rel="nofollow">http://freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html</a></p>
<p>The gang&#8217;s all here.</p>
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