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		<title>By: Pat J</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7535</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey DF?  How do you keep a bunch of idiots in suspense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey DF?  How do you keep a bunch of idiots in suspense?</p>
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		<title>By: Christian bloggers on Proposition 8 Persecution &#124; blogs4God</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7514</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian bloggers on Proposition 8 Persecution &#124; blogs4God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Davis Hanson comments on our &#8216;Upside Down World&#8216;: Here in California what was the ‘No on Prop 8′ gay lobby thinking, when the Obama [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CityDude</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7468</link>
		<dc:creator>CityDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about a mile from Diamond Heights (an increasingly gay neighborhood) or Noe Valley (a very gay neighborhood) to the remaining Latino enclaves in the Mission. And yet, it&#039;s as if the two are on different planets when it comes to mentality. The only thing I can conclude is that most of the militant gays asking for burned down churches are stark raving mad. How they fail to understand the morays and folkways of those living literally cheek by jowl with them cannot be otherwise explained. 

BTW - I predicted this. I told my wife about a week before the election, Prop 8 will pass, and it will be blacks and Latinos who pass it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about a mile from Diamond Heights (an increasingly gay neighborhood) or Noe Valley (a very gay neighborhood) to the remaining Latino enclaves in the Mission. And yet, it&#8217;s as if the two are on different planets when it comes to mentality. The only thing I can conclude is that most of the militant gays asking for burned down churches are stark raving mad. How they fail to understand the morays and folkways of those living literally cheek by jowl with them cannot be otherwise explained. </p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I predicted this. I told my wife about a week before the election, Prop 8 will pass, and it will be blacks and Latinos who pass it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7456</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jessica,

You wish that Conservatives would wake up to the reality of the issue with healthcare?  Well here is some reality Jessica, a 25 year old isn&#039;t getting cancer screens.  If he or she is even on ANY, he or she isn&#039;t going to be on more than one or two drug prescriptions (at most.)  He or she will almost never see the doctor, but he or she will be asked to pay a full monthy health insurance premium of which he or she will rarely make a claim.  He or she pays a full premium so that a 55 year old person (who may be on 5 or more drug prescriptions, sees the doctor every other week, and is constantly screened for Cancer) gets to pay almost the same monthly premium.

That is reality Jessica.

The reality is, when our country was growing in population (you know when we had kids not just old people like in the 50s and 60s) demographics and mathematics protected us from these health insurance realities.  Premiums were low (took a much tinyer percentage of our overall monthly incomes) because older people were such a smaller percentage of our overall population.  So insurance companies could get away with smaller premiums because the majority of the people who paid these smaller premiums never made a claim.  And, people died younger.

Now, people are living much longer.  It is not unheard of for a retired person to live 30+ years after the last day they worked for a paycheck.  But they still need money and healthcare to live.

The healthcare reality Jessica is the same reality that always existed, responsibility.  Whose responsibility is it to care for and medicate old people?  Is it their own responsibility or is the the responsibility of government (which means, the responsibility of the taxpayer?)  You want to solve this problem, then we need to identify where the responsibility should ultimately lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jessica,</p>
<p>You wish that Conservatives would wake up to the reality of the issue with healthcare?  Well here is some reality Jessica, a 25 year old isn&#8217;t getting cancer screens.  If he or she is even on ANY, he or she isn&#8217;t going to be on more than one or two drug prescriptions (at most.)  He or she will almost never see the doctor, but he or she will be asked to pay a full monthy health insurance premium of which he or she will rarely make a claim.  He or she pays a full premium so that a 55 year old person (who may be on 5 or more drug prescriptions, sees the doctor every other week, and is constantly screened for Cancer) gets to pay almost the same monthly premium.</p>
<p>That is reality Jessica.</p>
<p>The reality is, when our country was growing in population (you know when we had kids not just old people like in the 50s and 60s) demographics and mathematics protected us from these health insurance realities.  Premiums were low (took a much tinyer percentage of our overall monthly incomes) because older people were such a smaller percentage of our overall population.  So insurance companies could get away with smaller premiums because the majority of the people who paid these smaller premiums never made a claim.  And, people died younger.</p>
<p>Now, people are living much longer.  It is not unheard of for a retired person to live 30+ years after the last day they worked for a paycheck.  But they still need money and healthcare to live.</p>
<p>The healthcare reality Jessica is the same reality that always existed, responsibility.  Whose responsibility is it to care for and medicate old people?  Is it their own responsibility or is the the responsibility of government (which means, the responsibility of the taxpayer?)  You want to solve this problem, then we need to identify where the responsibility should ultimately lie.</p>
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		<title>By: goffredo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7450</link>
		<dc:creator>goffredo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF you are so idiotic that I am enjoying your blasts. Keep it up. Shows us again and again how deranged you are. We are having a ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF you are so idiotic that I am enjoying your blasts. Keep it up. Shows us again and again how deranged you are. We are having a ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7449</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People stop talking to DF.  DF is a child, not to be taken seriously.  Any further commentary directed toward DF (or about DF) will only encourgage additional nonsense from DF.

Everyone please shun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People stop talking to DF.  DF is a child, not to be taken seriously.  Any further commentary directed toward DF (or about DF) will only encourgage additional nonsense from DF.</p>
<p>Everyone please shun.</p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7435</link>
		<dc:creator>DF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goffredo,

I want you to specifically list McCain&#039;s policies that would have made him a great leader in context to the political environment he would have faced at home and abroad.   Then state how these polices would  benefit the American people.    He already lacks character according to your party&#039;s family value&#039;s rule.  Didn&#039;t he cheat on his old wife for his new rich trophy wife?   You never put down what the definition of socialism was.  Please enlighten me.  What is socialism?   Or, do you think it is a form of governmental rule?  If you live in Europe, is that like Sarah Palin thinking Africa is a country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goffredo,</p>
<p>I want you to specifically list McCain&#8217;s policies that would have made him a great leader in context to the political environment he would have faced at home and abroad.   Then state how these polices would  benefit the American people.    He already lacks character according to your party&#8217;s family value&#8217;s rule.  Didn&#8217;t he cheat on his old wife for his new rich trophy wife?   You never put down what the definition of socialism was.  Please enlighten me.  What is socialism?   Or, do you think it is a form of governmental rule?  If you live in Europe, is that like Sarah Palin thinking Africa is a country?</p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7434</link>
		<dc:creator>DF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce,

Nice use of the Reagan quip.  I actually am laughing out loud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,</p>
<p>Nice use of the Reagan quip.  I actually am laughing out loud.</p>
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		<title>By: DF</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7433</link>
		<dc:creator>DF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goffredo or from now on I will just start calling you idiot, because it&#039;s patently obvious you are one.   You own a computer, ergo, you have access to Wikipedia and then try to respond that economic systems and systems of government are one in the same. You desperately need to take a civics course or at the very least, just look up the terms on your computer.  

Rescumlicans,  you don&#039;t like it when someone labels someone else?   Waaah!   It doesn&#039;t seem to bother you when it works for your favor: Joe the plumber, Obama&#039;s a terrorist, Obama&#039;s a socialist, Liberal media, etc.... You people are so stupid.  It&#039;s Ok for you to use slurs and name calling but when someone else uses your tactics it&#039;s wrong.  Cry me a river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goffredo or from now on I will just start calling you idiot, because it&#8217;s patently obvious you are one.   You own a computer, ergo, you have access to Wikipedia and then try to respond that economic systems and systems of government are one in the same. You desperately need to take a civics course or at the very least, just look up the terms on your computer.  </p>
<p>Rescumlicans,  you don&#8217;t like it when someone labels someone else?   Waaah!   It doesn&#8217;t seem to bother you when it works for your favor: Joe the plumber, Obama&#8217;s a terrorist, Obama&#8217;s a socialist, Liberal media, etc&#8230;. You people are so stupid.  It&#8217;s Ok for you to use slurs and name calling but when someone else uses your tactics it&#8217;s wrong.  Cry me a river.</p>
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		<title>By: goffredo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/361/#comment-7432</link>
		<dc:creator>goffredo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is my President so of course I will give him a chance. More than that. As I live in Europe I will most surely end up defending him against the standard anti-american sentiment that will inevitably represent itself once the infatuation passes and people get down to business. I hope Obama turns out to be a good president. What is sure, in my mind, is that McCain would have been a great president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is my President so of course I will give him a chance. More than that. As I live in Europe I will most surely end up defending him against the standard anti-american sentiment that will inevitably represent itself once the infatuation passes and people get down to business. I hope Obama turns out to be a good president. What is sure, in my mind, is that McCain would have been a great president.</p>
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