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August 25, 2013 - 9:47 am
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This is not the time for a family argument, but it is perhaps inevitable that the split in the Republican Party over what to do about fighting Obamacare would emerge at this point.

The fight between pragmatists and true believers over shutting down the government in the futile hope that Obamacare can be defunded isn’t just over tactics. This is an ideological struggle that will define the GOP going into the 2014 election, and whichever side comes out on top will probably determine whether Republicans hold on to the House and win the Senate.

The Hill reports:

Sens. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) are leading the defunding push in the upper chamber, and 80 House Republicans have signed on, as have the conservative groups Club For Growth, Senate Conservatives Fund and Heritage Action. But many other Republicans have voiced opposition, including Speaker John Boehner (Ohio), who has indicated he’s against the plan.

Conservative groups are framing the debate in near-apocalyptic terms, and ramping up the pressure on lawmakers to back the effort — or else.

“This about stopping the worst law that has ever been passed, something we believe will destroy the country, and not all Republicans are willing to stop it. We need to draw a line in the sand,” Senate Conservatives Fund Executive Director Matt Hoskins told The Hill. “Anyone who votes to fund ObamaCare should have a primary challenge — they’re part of the problem and they should be replaced.”

Hoskins’s group is running ads criticizing a half-dozen Senate Republicans, including two they may target in primaries this year: Sens. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and Lamar Alexander (Tenn.). His group plans to go after two more Republican senators starting next week.

Heritage Action, another powerful group strongly in favor of the defund movement, is spending more than a half-million dollars on ads targeting the 100 House Republicans who haven’t yet signed on to the defunding effort.

“Pretty much since 2011 and the debt ceiling fight there’s been an unwillingness to be aggressive and push good conservative policy,” said Heritage Action Communications Director Dan Holler. “On ObamaCare, arguably the biggest issue facing our country and why they’re in office in the first place, they’re not willing to take the same principled stance.”

That strategy has some Republicans seething.

“Why is @Heritage_Action spending $550K to attack conservatives but not @KayHagan who was a deciding vote on #Obamacare?” Rep. Renee Ellmers (N.C.), one of the Republicans the group is targeting, tweeted on Friday.

“Obamacare must be stopped, but we cannot stop it with political games. And, frankly, any threat to shut down the federal government over funding Obamacare in the Continuing Resolution is a political game and a distraction,” she wrote on her campaign website on Thursday.

“When you’re a so-called conservative organization that’s spending more money attacking Republicans than the [Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committtee] has, it’s time to look in the mirror, and hopefully their donors will look at their priorities as well,” says Brian Walsh, a former communications director for the National Republican Senatorial Committee. “You’re falsely raising expectations over conservative grassroots types over a battle with a predetermined outcome and that’s not helpful… That’s not a constructive strategy, that’s a strategy of fratricide.”

Both sides are being rather apocalyptic in their rhetoric, which, of course, isn’t helpful. And saying that Republicans who oppose Obamacare but don’t want to shut down the government — which won’t defund Obamacare anyway — should be primaried is bizarre. What’s a primary opponent going to run on? That the incumbent is a responsible legislator who didn’t think shutting down the government for no reason is a good idea?

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The problem is that the "do nothing" folks like Moran don't really have an affirmative plan of action. They are willing to throw conservative activists, the grass roots folks wiling to knock on doors and man phone banks, under the bus so they can avoid controversy. They "hope" that the crumbling monstrosity of Obamacare would be blamed on the Dems by an adversarial and dishonest media??. But those folks will merely say, well that's we REALLY need single payer!! Moran won't be willing to oppose THAT either.
These spineless squishes are what give conservatives a bad name, accompanied by those who undermine us at every turn, like McCain, Graham, Alexander, & Corker. Principles matter! The Boehner/McConnell/Preibus GOP has none they are willing to stand and fight for!
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It really doesn't matter if the Republicans are split or not. In fact, it would be a good thing if the Republicans shed the old dinosaurs that go along to get along with the Democrats, and conduct business as usual. If the Republicans can't get rid of Obamacare, they deserve to die, and make way for a political party with conservative principles and the courage of their convictions. If Cruz, or someone very much like him isn't in the leadership of the Republican party by 2016, conservatives should form a new partry.
33 weeks ago
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Cruz is shining a light, and the cockroaches are scurrying....

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Rick Moran say it's the "pragmatists", the "traditional Republicans", the "establishment-minded" Republicans (in other words, the Republican Ruling Class) versus the "true believers", the "hard right Tea Party" (in other words, the Country Class). Here's a question for you, Rick: what are the "hard right" principles that form the basis of the Tea Party? Aren't they the same principles which were held by our Founding Fathers: a limited Federal government based on the constraints spelled out in the Constitution; all other issues decided at the state and local levels or left in the hands of the people; fiscal responsibility; and a strong national defense? So this has become the "hard right", and the proud "pragmatists" who want the same expanded and expanding Federal leviathan that the Democrats have wrought, but controlled by Republicans, are the "centrists"?

"The effect of passing a continuing resolution that funds the entire government except Obamacare is exactly the same as refusing to pass a CR — it will shut down the government. Obama won’t sign it. Democrats won’t even consider it in the Senate. There is no earthly reason to do it." This is hymn #1 from the Karl Rove/John McCain/Lindsey Graham songbook. Here's the "earthly" reason to defund Obamacare: it's bad legislation that will destroy the American economy and the best healthcare system in the world; it's disliked by a majority of Americans that is increasing every day that new problems come to light; and it's the last chance to rein it in or kill it and replace it with something that will work for all Americans before it gets out of the barn and into effect in all 50 states. In short, it is the right thing to do, and the right time to do it. The reason the Ruling Class wants to keep it is that their corporate cronies on K Street in Washington are already hard at work positioning themselves to make a killing when it goes into effect - and you know that they will be grateful. It's just like the childrens' song: "Same song; third verse; ought to be better, but it's going to be worse!"

33 weeks ago
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Boehner made a 2010 campaign promise. Now he wants to fudge it. First he wanted to wait for Romeny to get elected. Now he wants to wait it out till '14. It was a no strings attached promise. Back down now at great peril. I have no problem putting the Rs out of their misery. My concernisn't the next election. My concern is the welfare of the nation.
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Once again, I point out that if the Rs force Obama to play Russian Roulette with the budget But allow Obama to choose his chamber, it will not be the Rs fault if Obama deliberately picks the one loaded chamber. IOW, it is not the fault of the Rs if they fund government with the exception of O'Care and then O vetoes it. It is Os'fault for making that choice. I also highly recommend a re-read of Federalist Paper #78. Do a word search for "purse". See that the power of the purse was intended for exactly such a situation as is presented to the majority in the House with O'care.
33 weeks ago
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The Moderate Mr. Moran once again offers his idea of how to unite the Party. "Do it our way."

The Conservative response? "How about you do it our way, for once? You're the one who thinks we should get along. How about suggesting the Moderates cave, this time?" Of course, that won't happen. Compromise always means the other guy has to do the compromising.
33 weeks ago
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This is about a lot more than Obamacare, Mr M, and you're a lousy intermediary.
As someone says below, yes, the roaches are scurrying:
Worst president in history yet the GOP and their water carriers can't/won't do anything about it. The party old guard is washed up and desperate. So...time for you and your kind to serve up another stale pile of false choices.

You're surrounded by people who are your match in every way, so expect big helpings of crow, humiliation, abuse and ridicule. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.

Meantime, hey, Karl Rove and McCain - Mittens 2016. Embrace and extend!.Yeah, go for it!
[Dammit, Mildred, this oaf isn't at all clubbable.]
33 weeks ago
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I'm really getting tired of commentators saying that Republicans must unite and all agree on everything if they want to stand a chance in 2016. That's 3 years away and allowing any group to hijack the conservative pulpit for 3 years with no opposition allowed is simply stupid.

Many people are forgetting that what matters is doing the right thing, not winning some stupid election. If you do the right thing, elections will turn your way. If you spend all your energy trying to please everyone, you won't win, and, if you did, it wouldn't matter because you'd no longer stand for anything.
33 weeks ago
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I'm so sick of being told to sit down and shut up and let the professionals do things "responsibly".
33 weeks ago
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Do we really need a Democratic (R) party in addition to Democratic (D) as our two choices during election?
33 weeks ago
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The problem is that the "do nothing" folks like Moran don't really have an affirmative plan of action. They are willing to throw conservative activists, the grass roots folks wiling to knock on doors and man phone banks, under the bus so they can avoid controversy. They "hope" that the crumbling monstrosity of Obamacare would be blamed on the Dems by an adversarial and dishonest media??. But those folks will merely say, well that's we REALLY need single payer!! Moran won't be willing to oppose THAT either.
These spineless squishes are what give conservatives a bad name, accompanied by those who undermine us at every turn, like McCain, Graham, Alexander, & Corker. Principles matter! The Boehner/McConnell/Preibus GOP has none they are willing to stand and fight for!
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The reason Senator Cruz gives for de-funding Obamacare is that no program, once it starts distributing money to people has ever been repealed. Our concern is, once the money for the individual mandate starts flowing, we will not be able to turn it off. Your concern seems to be the Republicans will be blamed for Obama shutting down the government. You seem to propose we wait and let the whole thing collapse like a house of cards, and let the funding for the individual mandate go ahead. I am sorry, but where is the legal challenge to postponing the small business mandate? Where is the bill to postpone the individual mandate? How about challenging this thing more aggressively?
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