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Massive NSA Eavesdropping of Domestic Communications

Oh yes they are listening to our phone calls, Barry. (Note: Read Matt Vespa's update to this story. Rep. Nadler apparently misspoke.)

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Rick Moran

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June 16, 2013 - 6:18 am
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With such a massive list of targeted people, and low-level analysts able to make the decision to listen in without a warrant, how easy would it be for a request from a partisan operative to eavesdrop on the opposition to be slotted into the daily routine? Who’s keeping track of the analysts to make sure they are only listening in to targeted phone calls?

The potential for immediate abuse of this program is immense. You don’t have to be wearing a tin foil hat to imagine the worst. If the appetite to make a mockery of our constitutional protections is there, the NSA appears to have a program to sate it.

And it is equally clear that the entire upperlevels of American intelligence have been lying to Congress about how this program works. The NSA doesn’t need a FISA warrant to access the contents of domestic phone calls. That’s the bottom line, despite protestations to the contrary from the spooks.

AT&T and other telecommunications companies that allow the NSA to tap into their fiber links receive absolute immunity from civil liability or criminal prosecution, thanks to a law that Congress enacted in 2008 and renewed in 2012. It’s a series of amendments to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, also known as the FISA Amendments Act.

That law says surveillance may be authorized by the attorney general and director of national intelligence without prior approval by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, as long as minimization requirements and general procedures blessed by the court are followed.

A requirement of the 2008 law is that the NSA “may not intentionally target any person known at the time of acquisition to be located in the United States.” A possible interpretation of that language, some legal experts said, is that the agency may vacuum up everything it can domestically — on the theory that indiscriminate data acquisition was not intended to “target” a specific American citizen.

The National Security State, the Surveillance State, the Military Industrial Complex — whatever you want to call it, it’s out of control and has become a serious threat to American liberty. Can it be tamed? The Church Committee in the 1970s uncovered serious abuses by the CIA, and their recommendations nearly destroyed the agency. Realizing the necessity for intelligence gathering in a post-9/11 world, there has to be a way to allow the CIA, NSA, DIA, and other intelligence agencies to do their jobs without threatening our privacy or 4th Amendment rights. The almost magical technology that allows our government to snoop can be employed to protect our rights as well. All that’s lacking is the effort and imagination to do so.

Note: Read Matt Vespa’s update to this story. Rep. Nadler apparently misspoke.

(Also read Ed Driscoll: “Warrants? The NSA Don’t Need No Steeenking Warrants!”)

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Rick Moran is PJ Media's Chicago editor and Blog editor at The American Thinker. He is also host of the"RINO Hour of Power" on Blog Talk Radio. His own blog is Right Wing Nut House.

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RM: "Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed 'simply based on an analyst deciding that.'”

We also know that the Obama administration targets Tea Party and other patriotic groups while turning a blind eye toward Mosques.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/watch_the_good_guys_and_leave_the_terrorists_alone.html

Selective targeting of individuals or groups who are not subversive of the United States and our Constitution is a violation of the 14th amendment which requires equal protection of the law.

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 14th Amendment, U.S. Constitution

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv

Maybe the Obama administration believes the 14th amendment only applies to the States and not to the Federal Government. By that reasoning the States are forbidden from instituting slavery, but not the Federal Government. No, the 14th Amendment applies to all levels of American Government - Local - State - Federal. Willful violation of the 14th Amendment in our Constitution is treason because willful violation of the U.S. Constitution is levying political war against the United States.

Selective targeting of individuals or groups who are subversive of our Constitution is not a violation of the 14th amendment because those individuals and groups are themselves guilty of treason against the United States and our Constitution.

“In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and, both by precept and example, inculcated on mankind. And it is now generally agreed among Christians that this spirit of toleration, in the fullest extent consistent with the being of civil society, is the chief characteristical mark of the Church. Insomuch that Mr. Locke has asserted and proved, beyond the possibility of contradiction on any solid ground, that such toleration ought to be extended to all whose doctrines are not subversive of society. The only sects which he thinks ought to be, and which by all wise laws are excluded from such toleration, are those who teach doctrines subversive of the civil government under which they live [Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and Constitution].” Samuel Adams

http://history.hanover.edu/texts/adamss.html
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No, you hotties out there, the TSA is not running you through the scanner every time you come through the line because they wish to see you naked. It's just that you look terribly suspicious. Or, you're just unlucky, because it is all totally random.

The NSA eavesdropping is the virtual version of the groping TSA.

Of course, they'll use any legal flimsy excuse to violate the Constitution, because they hate that damned Constitution. They tell us they hate it.
1 year ago
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Wow, how far we've come. When I worked for NSA in the 80's and early 90's, eavesdropping on American citizens was consider cardinal sin number one. The protocol for such inadvertency was drilled in day one.
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Just as a note, you have to remember the state-of-the-art in voice recognition.

Rush Limbaugh had a caller a few days ago who worked for a telecom company and described how this sort of thing could be used. He's currently working for a company that uses commercially available, public databases to feed a program that gives commercial call-in lines information on callers. In less than a second, it can tell the operator things like: name and address (reverse directory information from the phone book), what you payed for your house (from property tax info), what your last dozen FaceBook or Twitter posts were, what you last purchased online, what your favorite books are (from Amazon), your credit score, and what causes you last donated to. And that's just the publicly available stuff.

Just using the metadata from the phonecalls,one can infer a lot about a person; for instance, it's not hard to figure out what's going on if a single woman calls her OB-GYN and then shortly thereafter calls Planned Parenthood or an adoption agency. If the person if interest uses a cell phone, you can determine their approximate locations by examining which cell towers their phones used. Combine this information with the publicly available databases and you can quite literally follow a person through the day - and never get in sight of him/her. I saw one example of a legitimate use of this knowledge; the police concluded that a person of interest had - probably unlawful - long term visitors simply by examining his utility bills for a few months.

Now imagine that you have access to the phone calls themselves. Somebody comes to the interest of the NSA. They don't have to listen to every phone call, they tell the computer servers to pull all calls to and from known numbers and look for words such as "bomb", "Allah", "NRA", or "Republican". Then they start looking at who was on the other end of the calls and how this correlates with the credit card transactions and e-mail records and they can get a pretty close idea of what the person was doing at the time.
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Read Brad Thor's "Black list" (Atria/Emily Bestler Books, 2012). While a thriller, he wrote it based on fact. Not only is the NSA evesdropping, but they have the capability of recording every telephone conversation and e-mail throughout the U.S and storing it for later review. The vast majority of the "take" will not be reviewed except by computer, of course, but the potential for abuse is staggering.
1 year ago
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The two words "hard" and "copy" are starting even better than they already did. I'm also reminded of the new Battlestar Galactica where everything was so networked together that the Cylons brought down the entire system by using it against the humans. Only those few ships that were so old-fashioned as to be a network apart like the Galactica survived because the Cylons couldn't hack them or otherwise read their intentions.
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The NSA, as is DHS, is operating under Obama Inc's directives as a police state in the making. And this is more than obvious, even though they feign that in order to secure the nation ALL Americans need to accept this blanket invasion. Hogwash. The Chechens operated in Boston under NSA's nose, as did the Ft Hood jihadist, never mind the 9/11/01 terrorists!
However, if the goal is to create this and that list, then it all comes together - the transformation of America - http://adinakutnicki.com/2013/06/09/a-political-dissidents-list-dhs-insider-confirms-the-true-intent-of-nsas-spying-commentary-by-adina-kutnicki/
IF it looks like a police state in the offing....

Adina Kutnicki< Israel http://adinakutnicki.com/about/
1 year ago
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That's the real issue. All of the data in the world doesn't do our intelligence gathering agencies any good if - for political reasons - they can't analyze it properly.
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Here is the tell from the "Loyal Opposition" - the GoP - what do you hear?

-Crickets-

Not. A. Darn. Thing.

Which makes them complicit in the violations and illegals AFAIC.

We need many applications of a 'hemp rope and a streetlamp'.
1 year ago
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Expect a "I didn't know that, but I will look into it now", statement from Obama.
He has then down pat, & he's allowed to get away with it, Even with the AP story the media is still backing him.
1 year ago
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What do you want to bet he doesn't know about it until he reads it in a newspaper, too?
1 year ago
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RM: "Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed 'simply based on an analyst deciding that.'”

We also know that the Obama administration targets Tea Party and other patriotic groups while turning a blind eye toward Mosques.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/watch_the_good_guys_and_leave_the_terrorists_alone.html

Selective targeting of individuals or groups who are not subversive of the United States and our Constitution is a violation of the 14th amendment which requires equal protection of the law.

"No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." 14th Amendment, U.S. Constitution

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv

Maybe the Obama administration believes the 14th amendment only applies to the States and not to the Federal Government. By that reasoning the States are forbidden from instituting slavery, but not the Federal Government. No, the 14th Amendment applies to all levels of American Government - Local - State - Federal. Willful violation of the 14th Amendment in our Constitution is treason because willful violation of the U.S. Constitution is levying political war against the United States.

Selective targeting of individuals or groups who are subversive of our Constitution is not a violation of the 14th amendment because those individuals and groups are themselves guilty of treason against the United States and our Constitution.

“In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and, both by precept and example, inculcated on mankind. And it is now generally agreed among Christians that this spirit of toleration, in the fullest extent consistent with the being of civil society, is the chief characteristical mark of the Church. Insomuch that Mr. Locke has asserted and proved, beyond the possibility of contradiction on any solid ground, that such toleration ought to be extended to all whose doctrines are not subversive of society. The only sects which he thinks ought to be, and which by all wise laws are excluded from such toleration, are those who teach doctrines subversive of the civil government under which they live [Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and Constitution].” Samuel Adams

http://history.hanover.edu/texts/adamss.html
1 year ago
1 year ago Link To Comment
No, you hotties out there, the TSA is not running you through the scanner every time you come through the line because they wish to see you naked. It's just that you look terribly suspicious. Or, you're just unlucky, because it is all totally random.

The NSA eavesdropping is the virtual version of the groping TSA.

Of course, they'll use any legal flimsy excuse to violate the Constitution, because they hate that damned Constitution. They tell us they hate it.
1 year ago
1 year ago Link To Comment
RM: "Rep. Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, disclosed this week that during a secret briefing to members of Congress, he was told that the contents of a phone call could be accessed 'simply based on an analyst deciding that.'”

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..." 4th Amendment, Bill of Rights, U.S. Constitution

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fourth_amendment

Willful violation of the U.S. Constitution is treason because willful violation of the U.S. Constitution is levying political war against the United States.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort." Atricle III, Section 3, U.S. Constitution

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii#section3
1 year ago
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So the government is listening in on our calls. I doubt they defer to those calls between an attorney, and his, or her, client. I wonder how the lawyers defending those high profile Federal cases feel now?

Virtually nothing is private anymore, not even when we expect it to be.
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