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April 22, 2013 - 3:26 pm

Now that an Islamist terror plot has been exposed in friendly ol’ Canada, do you think that certain Deep Thinkers will relinquish the theory that U.S. foreign policy creates terrorism? Of course not. This is about as central to their worldview as anti-psychiatry is to the Scientologists. They’re not about to ditch such a convenient meta-narrative in the face of mounting counter-evidence. That would be positively un-radical.

People who actually pay attention to international affairs, and who read more than one news source, know that Islamist terror is not confined to American targets. Hell, the vast majority of targets are non-American. Mosques in Iraq. Tourist sites in Bali. Mumbai. Madrid. London. Argentina. Algeria. Etc. ad nauseum. Are these Deep Thinkers so Americocentric they think everything is about us and us alone?

Well, they might reply, U.S. foreign policy might not be the cause of all terror, but it is a cause of some terror.. In that case, I urge that they turn to a wonderful collection called The Al Qaeda Reader, edited by Raymond Ibrahim. Mr. Ibrahim demonstrates that our foes love to talk out of both sides of their mouths. When the propaganda is directed to Western audiences, it’s all about anti-imperialism, woe-is-me theatrics. The willing recipients of this message are the useful (and useless) idiots in the West. When the terrorists talk amongst themselves, however, the message conveyed through internal memos and letters is one of pure religious fanaticism.

Dupes will always be dupes, especially if they want to be duped.

Robert Wargas is a regular contributor to PJ Media. A native of Long Island, he was educated at the City University of New York and Yale University, and has contributed reports and opinion pieces to Newsday and FrontPage Magazine on a range of topics. He also maintains an independent blog at http://robertwargas.typepad.com. Outside of his political writing, Wargas has worked as a professional historian for a large cancer-research institution, documenting the history of biotechnology since the 1970s. He can be reached at rwargas22@yahoo.com. Follow him on Twitter @RobertWargas

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Zeke, Zeke, Zeke:

You have reached the final state of Progressive debating tactics. Name calling. Not only was there no terrorism directed against the United State in 19th Century from the Muslim world we also managed to stay out of Europe's wars. Oh, wait a minute Europe didn't have any continent wide wars during the 19th Century for us to get into. Claims about what went on during the 19th Century are a non-sequitor. There was no terrorism per se in the interwar years because the colonial powers ruled the region with an iron hand and if anything pursued a pro-Arab/pro-Muslim policy. All the local acts of terror were directed at the local Jewish populations.

If you note above I specifically said that US Middle East policy was generally pro-Arab until after the Six Day War in 1967. US Middle East policy from 1945-1991 was driven by the Cold War competition with the Soviet Union. The internal dynamics of the Middle East politics were driven at first by neo-Fascist Arab Nationalism led by Nasser and then after the Camp David accords solely by the Cold War competition.

Soviet sympathizers have been the primary critics of US Middle East policy. the late addition of the Buchananites is more a return to the immediate post war neo Nazi motivation. Modern terrorism was created by the Soviet Union as tool for achieving their regional goals not only in the Middle East but in Europe against NATO as well. The Red Brigades, Baader-Meinhof and Boston favorite terrorists the Irish Republican Army all received training and funding from the Soviet Union through the East Germans and Libyans. During this period all terrorist groups were decidedly secular and aligned with the Soviet Union or their surrogates.

Modern religious terrorism originated in Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal and the collapse of communism. The Saudis stepped in with money and influence and redirected the established terrorist groups to from political to religious motivation. Some believe that AQ got started when the Saudis saw the Afghan war as way of redirecting the energies of their more radical citizens to more “productive” activities, i.e., send them off to Southwest Asia to die as martyrs. Iranian terrorism, while it does have a religious basis, is strictly an instrument of state power. It is used most frequently against Iran’s regional rivals and very seldom against the United States.

Just because you read a bunch of garbage written by people who were on the side to the Soviet Union during the Cold War and have now gravitated toward the next totalitarian ideology doesn’t make you wise. It demonstrates the appeal of totalitarian ideologies has for you. You are an archetype. You were the one screaming for blood in Paris during the Terror; the Bolshevik calling for the blood of the traitors in 1937. You sieg heiled your way through the Nuremburg rallies and went on to serve as a sonderkommando in an Einsatzgruppen on the East Front. You were a member of the Red Brigades under Mao and soldier of genocide in Cambodia. Now terrorists like Brothers Tsarnaev are you heroes. You are just a mindless member of a mob who has been told that you have special knowledge. So I will let you in on the secret -- your leaders are laughing at you because you actually believe the crap that feed you. Talk about being an idiot.

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OBAMA, BIN LADIN AND THE BOSTON MARATHON BOMBING

Some ultimately blame the Boston bombing on drone strikes and the collateral killing of innocent Moslems. Others on Iraq and Afghanistan and the thousands of Moslems who have died from those wars. Still others blame it on our support of Israel or Gitmo not being closed. But the recent surge of al-Qaida inspired violence can only have one ultimate cause overlooked by Brokaw and others: The US invasion of a Moslem country from an occupied Moslem country to kill a revered Moslem leader (gunning him down like a dog) in blasephemous violation of Holy Moslem Law.

If only Obama hadn't ordered the killing of isolated, impotent Osama bin Laden there wouldn't have been riotous 9/11 pro-bin Laden protests across the Moslem world, Ambassador Stevens and three aides wouldn't have been killed, the Algerian energy plant wouldn't have been seized and 37 dead, and the Tsarnaev boys wouldn't have blown up the Boston Marathon with that poor lad facing the death penalty. If only we hadn't killed bin Laden how different things would be today. Or would they?
51 weeks ago
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Isn't Canada the 51st State /sarc

51 weeks ago
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"...do you think that certain Deep Thinkers will relinquish the theory that U.S. foreign policy creates terrorism? Of course not."

That question indicates one is either sorely lacking in legitimate knowledge or just pandering to self serving political propaganda. There has always been one front in which there is conflict among the sects no matter where they may reside in the world. There has been another front on the increase since 1947 and the U.S. Middle East Intervention Policy which is far reaching across the western free world. And lastly, there has been the ongoing conflict with Israel and its allies. When this conflict exists, then it generally reverts to the age old conflict of Islam vs. Christianity.

In the 20th century and efore WWII Americans never heard of any conflict between Islam and America and or its predominate Christianity. That all changed systemically post WWII when the U.S. essentially relieved the Brits and to a degree, the Russians, of their lead role of influence in most of the Middle East and further, the U.S. and its allies enacting the strategic policies on behalf of Israel.

Nothing is ever as simplistic as some like to present it for whatever their self serving motives. The fact is, that for a good period of the 20th century the Middle East nations of Islam has no particular conflict with America and then after WWII, it began to systemically change. I walked the streets in several of the most well know nations of the Middle East during the 50s and 60s along side westerners and along side the local citizens. They were among the most cordial people and equal to those of other nations I spent time in during my 34 years is the U.S. Marine Corps. They welcomed us in their homes, fed us feasts, demanded we take their household gifts (uselly inlaid metalwares and camel seats) and escort us around town to meet their relatives, etc. Similar in nature to the closed religious society of the Amish the common people are led by a religious hierarchy just and any religious are actually. In my 50 + years of associations, I've never once experienced some strong belief of common Muslims that it is every Muslims duty to kill infidels -- in fact, it was their strong belief that if a strict believer, it was better to simply live apart from non believers, for which they had their equivelent scriptures for.
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This seems to be your current hobby horse where you said in a previous article that the US has been intervening in the Middle East for more than 70 years. I guess you think this meddling started when we invaded North Africa in November, 1942. The US had little to do with the Middle East until after the Six Day War. Our sole meddling prior to that event was Harry Truman's recognition of Israel in 1947. Between 1947 and 1967 France was Israel's principal backer and not the US. In fact US policy was often pro-Arab as seen by President Eisenhower’s forcing an Israeli withdrawal from the Sinai after the conclusion of the 1956 Suez Crisis. US military and political support for Israel was more a function of the Cold War than anything else. If you remember after the Cold War ended President Bush and Secretary of State Baker put extreme pressure on Israel resulting in the flawed Oslo agreements. Middle East terrorism originally had nothing to do with Islam. It was unleashed when the KGB created the Palestinian nationality and several supporting terrorist groups in the early 1960s. Salafist Islamic terror didn’t get started until after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 when Soviet support to terror organizations dried up and Saudi oil money started to flow.

If US intervention is the reason for Islamic terror than it must be true that Russian, Chinese, Indian, Filippino, Nigerian, Thai and Kenyan intervention in the Middle East must be the reason that Islam is at war with those countries as well.

Dating the "US Intervention" to 1947 reveals that you believe Islamic terror is all the fault of those evil Jooos.

You are perhaps the most ignorant troll I have encountered on the internet.
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You need to get your history and your facts correct. You probably shouldn't be so fast to throw around ignorant troll on this subject!
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Smart answer. It's also worth noting the context in which global Islamist terror began: after the USSR invaded Afghanistan. Before that, terror in the Middle East was, as you said, confined to more local and specific things such as attacking Jews and Israel. When the PFLP learned how to hijack planes in the 1960s, terrorists began to get more global ideas. It's important to remember, too, that Al Qaeda was formed during Operation Cyclone. Technically we were helping the mujahideen. (In other words, they hate us when we help them, and they also hate us when we don't help them.) Once Godless Communist was toppled, they could turn their sites on the second non-Muslim power, which was the U.S. Missing this context is what all clueless people do.
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Why would you endorse a comment as being a "smart answer" when it is blatantly misdirected and false? Surely, you're not idicating you of all people are misinformed also.

George Washing said in his farweel address; "Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and exces sive dislike of another, cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real Patriots, who may resist the intriegues [sic] of the favorite, are liable to become suspected and odious; while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests."

Now lets try a little test. What were the promises to the Arabs by the Brits and French during their reign over the ME? What were the promises of the U.S. to the Arabs upon implementing the U.S. Middle East Intervention Policies? What precisely were the U.S. policies of the Middle East natural resources and why? What were and are the early to present intervention policies into Iran and why?

I could bury you in more than 200 citations for which you seemingly choose to ignore.
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Zeke, Zeke, Zeke, There you go again. I wasn’t the one who claimed the invasion of North Africa was the beginning of “US intervention” in the Middle East

You have failed to learn that what they teach you in leftist debate tactics training is that your methods only work when you are in charge and are dealing with a few dissenters. I can give you the list because you have used them all. First you use ridicule, e.g, ask if someone is off their meds. Then you proclaim that you are old hand with “years more experience” than your opponent. Finally, you claim you can bury someone in “200 sources” all of which are reliably filled leftwing propaganda. You should know by now that this tactic doesn’t work where you don’t have control of the discussion.

So I guess that I will have to explain this to you more completely.

Terrorism in the Middle East has gone through three phases. The first phase lasted from 1945-1956. Terrorism in the region was a continuation of the Nazi war against the Jews. The Arab populations in the region supported the Nazis especially the yet to be named "Palestinian People." The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem spent the war in Germany recruiting Muslims to fight for Hitler. He has great success in Bosnia, Kosovo and Albania. After the war some of the worst Nazi war criminals settled in Egypt and helped the Arab Nationalists build their security services. You probably don’t know that the Arab Nationalist Parties were all patterned on National Socialism and the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hassan al-Banna, was highly influenced by Mein Kampf and was for Hitler before he was appointed chancellor. During this era, terrorism as we know it today did not exist and operation against Israel were more of a paramilitary nature aimed at weakening the Jewish state so the Arabs could finish the job Hitler started. In other words, first generation terrorism was not about US policy but was merely a continuation of Nazi policy.

From 1956 through the end of the Soviet era the Middle East was an area of competition between the West and the Communists. This the era that modern terrorism was born but it wasn't about religion. It was a tactic used by the Soviet Union around the world to undermine the West. At this stage terrorism was not aimed at US policy per se. It was a military tactic to drive the US out of the region. Of course the newly minted Palestinians still had the objective of finish the final solution to the Jewish question but they were mere tools used by the Soviets. The Soviets created a monster that eventually came back to bite them bigtime.

Muslim religious terrorism began only after 1991 and not aimed solely at the United States. Muslim terrorism is directed at the following groups:

Jews
Christians
Ba'hists
Hindus
Buhdists
secularists
Animists
Blacks
Whites

In short as Samuel Huntington labeled it, Islam has bloody borders. The problem as understood by anyone who knows anything about the subject is with Islam and not with everybody else. Leftist understanding of the region is based upon Nazi and Soviet understandings of the region.


Asians
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You're sir are an idiot who can't even keep track of what you post and say! Next, you're equally and uniformed idiot when it comes to knowing anything about the communist cantainment and nationbuildig strategies and policies post WWII. Likewise, you're an idiot when it comes to factual history of the U.S. Middle East Intervention policies post WWII. I've baited you and many others on here and not one of you have taken the time to do your homework. had you done your homework, you would know that the early U.S. ME Intervention strategy only dealt with primarily two nations until the Israel was added to the equation. Like wise you would have known that the U.S. position on Israel was NOT what you might think and not until Eisenhower did we adopt the position we follow today which eventually had a siginficant consequences on our Iranian relationship. You would also know that the U.S. Iran relationship was sought by Iran and they were ardant allies unit.... and they sought alliance with Israel during a particular strategic era. As a side note. If you were such a historian of facts, you would also know that furing a part of the 19th century american missionaries openly and freely operated in Iran. Lastly, if you think you're an expert on the modern day history of the Middle East and especially Iran and Saudi Arabia U.S. relations, take your BS to Michael Ledeen and see how far you get. In spite of him being a neocon he is world remowned for his geopoliticial knowledge of the old USSR-Russia, the ME and especially Iran and Saudi Arabia and U.S. relations which are all tied together along with the Brits.
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Zeke, Zeke, Zeke:

You have reached the final state of Progressive debating tactics. Name calling. Not only was there no terrorism directed against the United State in 19th Century from the Muslim world we also managed to stay out of Europe's wars. Oh, wait a minute Europe didn't have any continent wide wars during the 19th Century for us to get into. Claims about what went on during the 19th Century are a non-sequitor. There was no terrorism per se in the interwar years because the colonial powers ruled the region with an iron hand and if anything pursued a pro-Arab/pro-Muslim policy. All the local acts of terror were directed at the local Jewish populations.

If you note above I specifically said that US Middle East policy was generally pro-Arab until after the Six Day War in 1967. US policy Middle East policy from 1945-1991 was driven by the Cold War competition with the Soviet Union. The internal dynamics of the Middle East politics were driven at first by neo-Fascist Arab Nationalism led by Nasser and then after the Camp David accords solely by the Cold War competition.

Soviet sympathizers are the primary critics of US Middle East policy. Modern terrorism was created by the Soviet Union as tool for achieving their regional goals not only in the Middle East but in Europe against NATO as well. The Red Brigades, Baader-Meinhof and Boston favorite terrorists the Irish Republican Army all received training and funding from the Soviet Union through the East Germans and Libyans. During this period all terrorist groups were decidedly secular and aligned with the Soviet Union or their surrogates.

Modern religious terrorism originated in Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal and the collapse of communism. The Saudis stepped in with money and influence and redirected the established terrorist groups to from political to religious motivation. Some believe that AQ got started when the Saudis saw the Afghan war as way of redirecting the energies of their more radical citizens to more “productive” activities, i.e., send them off to Southwest Asia to die as martyrs. Iranian terrorism, while it does have a religious basis, is strictly an instrument of state power. It is used most frequently against Iran’s regional rivals and very seldom against the United States.

Just because you read a bunch of garbage written by people who were on the side to the Soviet Union during the Cold War and have now gravitated toward the next totalitarian ideology doesn’t make you wise. It demonstrates the appeal of totalitarian ideologies has for you. You are an archetype. You were the one screaming for blood in Paris during the Terror; the Bolshevik calling for the blood of the traitors in 1937. You sieg heiled your way through the Nuremburg rallies and went on to serve as a sonderkommando in an Einsatzgruppen on the East Front. You were a member of the Red Brigades under Mao and soldier of genocide in Cambodia. Now terrorists like Brothers Tsarnaev are you heroes. You are just a mindless member of a mob who has been told that you have special knowledge. So I will let you in on the secret -- your leaders are laughing at you because you actually believe the crap that feed you. Talk about being an idiot.
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Time for a history lesson. Mohammad tried to convert people to his religion peacefully, but, when that did not work, he resorted to violence. Prior to Islam, the Middle East was the center of culture,science, engineering and such in the world. Since Islam, the Middle East has become stuck in the third century while the rest of the world progressed. If it wasn't for petrodollars, they would still be there. Something else to remember is that, with the exception of the time around the Crusades and some of the 20th century, Islam has been at war with the world - trying to obtain domination so that Islam would cover everyone along with Sharia Law. To push the idea that Islam is a peaceful religion is to deny the history of the last 1800 years. Yes, there are many peaceful muslims, but history cannot be denied. History would also tell us that Islam does not need the US or any other excuse to engage in terrorism. As such, simply by not being a muslim country is reason enough for the US to be a terrorism target.
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Yes, but Canadians are like Palestinians or something according to The Messiah Himself.
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Here's deep liberal thinking: every mall in India has a metal detector and the Taj Mahal is like a fortress. Security protocols in airports around the world are vastly different since 9/11. There is only one reason for that - Islamic terror.

A liberal is making the argument that abortion clinic bombers and Timothy McVeigh bear equal responsibility and represent some trend that is equally threatening. This is because liberals racialize the world and exaggerate or minimize threat according to race.

Liberals are idiots.
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