On Tuesday, the Department of Justice pretty much said that the president could conduct drone strikes on American soil. Andrew Kirell of Mediaite posted yesterday that:
[Last] Tuesday, CIA director nominee Brennan told Paul that “the agency I have been nominated to lead does not conduct lethal operations inside the United States — nor does it have any authority to do so.” Attorney General Holder followed up with a letter that said lethal force against American citizens on U.S. soil is “entirely hypothetical” and constitutes “an extraordinary situation” “we hope no president will ever have to confront.” Holder cited 9/11 and Pearl Harbor as examples of such domestic attacks that may warrant the executive branch to authorize an attack on American citizens on U.S. soil; but, of course, he cautioned that such a circumstance is “unlikely.” (But it could potentially exist.)
However, Noah Rothman, also of Mediaite, wrote today that Sen. Ted Cruz, in a tense exchange with Attorney General Eric Holder, finally received a clear answer from the DOJ that such strikes would be unconstitutional on U.S. soil.
In your legal judgment, does the Constitution allow a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil to be killed by a drone?” Cruz asked Holder pointedly.
“For sitting in a café and having a cup of coffee?” Holder replied. Cruz clarified that his hypothetical individual subject to a drone strike did not pose an “imminent and immediate threat of death and bodily harm,” but that person is suspected to be a terrorist.
“I would not think that that would be an appropriate use of any kind of lethal force,” Holder replied.
“With all respect, Gen. Holder, my question wasn’t about appropriateness or prosecutorial discretion. It was a simple legal question,” Cruz clarified.
“This is a hypothetical, but I would not think, that in that situation, the use of a drone or lethal force would not be appropriate,” Holder replied.
“I have to tell you I find it remarkable that in that hypothetical, which is deliberately very simple, you are not able to give a simple, one-word answer: no,” Cruz added. He said he think that his scenario would constitute a “deprivation of life without due process.”
Holder agreed and added that lethal force in Cruz’s case “would not be appropriate.”
“You keep saying appropriate – my question isn’t about propriety,” Cruz goaded. “My question is about whether something is constitutional or not.”
When Cruz was about to abandon his line of questioning after a number of equivocations from Holder, the attorney general clarified that he was saying “no” such actions would not be constitutional.
While I support drone strikes on terrorists overseas, their use on American soil is unsettling. Drone strikes is one area where I agree with the president. I also think that American-born terrorists, like Anwar al-Awlaki, was a legitimate strike. He forfeited his the rights and legal protections of the United States as a citizen when he decided to commit treason by becoming an al-Qaeda recruiter.
Furthermore, if an American-born terrorist, who intends to do us harm, is sighted in the U.S., then it’s up to the FBI, or any arm of civilian law enforcement, to arrest him. To blow him, or her, out of the sky with a drone strike could be a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, and I’m sure congressional approval for such an action wouldn’t find much support either. In fact, that’s the only way a drone strike on U.S. soil could be legal.
Nevertheless, the argument that American-born terrorists should be arrested, detained, and given the right of due process under the law isn’t illegitimate. In fact, one could argue that Sen. Rand Paul’s argument holds more legal weight than that outline by the Obama administration in the DOJ’s White Paper. Then again, detection and extraction of a person of interest could end in failure, and result in that individual continuing to plan attacks against the United States. Furthermore, the issues of non-state actors and the hindering a president’s wartime powers also factor into this argument. It’s a discussion worth having, but concerning drone strikes on American soil – the answer should be no. However, 45% of Americans think that the president should be able to execute such an operation, and 41% of Democrats agree.
(h/t Mediaite, Shark Tank)









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They were all executed except for the two who turned themselves in and exposed the plot. This is an instructive case.
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They were all executed except for the two who turned themselves in and exposed the plot. This is an instructive case.
How is it any different than say, the government decided to drone strike the Hutaree Militia instead of arresting them?
And remember, the definition of "terrorist" is not particularly well defined. It originally was people who deliberately targeted civilians so as to create "terror". But now anything the government doesn't like is labeled as a terrorist. And that includes the Tea Party in the eyes of many.
How is it any different than say, the government decided to drone strike the Hutaree Militia instead of arresting them?
And remember, the definition of "terrorist" is not particularly well defined. It originally was people who deliberately targeted civilians so as to create "terror". But now anything the government doesn't like is labeled as a terrorist. And that includes the Tea Party in the eyes of many.
The trial can even be a closed one (so that the bugger doesn't know a drone is coming for him), but the moment you give the government power to unilaterally kill someone just because they've been suspected of terrorism is the moment you yourself can become a target, for how do we not know you are a terrorist?
The government may one day declare you or I one just because they feel like it, and we're done.
Respect for the law must be upheld, even in the face of those who do not, otherwise we just end up like them. But we're not them, we are better.
The trial can even be a closed one (so that the bugger doesn't know a drone is coming for him), but the moment you give the government power to unilaterally kill someone just because they've been suspected of terrorism is the moment you yourself can become a target, for how do we not know you are a terrorist?
The government may one day declare you or I one just because they feel like it, and we're done.
Respect for the law must be upheld, even in the face of those who do not, otherwise we just end up like them. But we're not them, we are better.
"The government declaring you or I (a terrorist)" on DOMESTIC soil is an entirely different matter.
"The government declaring you or I (a terrorist)" on DOMESTIC soil is an entirely different matter.
Beyond that, it's not like they did take up arms directly. Is writing or producing propaganda enough? Again, the obvious example is Jane Fonda. She would have been eligible for a drone strike.
And what about the guy's 16 year old son. Was he condemned to death just because of who his father was? Apparently so, in the eyes of the government.
Beyond that, it's not like they did take up arms directly. Is writing or producing propaganda enough? Again, the obvious example is Jane Fonda. She would have been eligible for a drone strike.
And what about the guy's 16 year old son. Was he condemned to death just because of who his father was? Apparently so, in the eyes of the government.