Ryan pulled no punches when he talked about the 23 million unemployed or Barack Obama’s failure to improve the economy, but his soft-spoken Midwestern manner and his everyman looks added an appeal to the attacks that took any harsh edges off. The speech was skillfully written and even more skillfully delivered. Paul Ryan can go on offense as nimbly Sarah Palin, but from a different part of the political brain, and Ryan is more effective. At one point, Roger L. Simon, who was watching next to me, quipped that Ryan is “better than JFK.”
Someone of my generation, who grew up with “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!” and “Morning in America,” might say that there’s something very familiar about Paul Ryan, and it starts with an R.
Mitt Romney really has his work cut out for him Thursday night. He now has to top his wife, Ann, and his running mate, Paul, both of whom have shown brilliantly in Tampa this week.
The ticket really need is Ryan-Romney. Just like last time they got it backwards…
Support Romney/Ryan in 2012 and hope for Ryan/Whoever in 2020.
I like Romney but he was not my first choice to lead the Republican ticket. But I’ll support him now just to put Ryan in the White house in eight years.
If Romney pulls a McCain-Boehner-Graham, and turns squishy moderate after he wins the election, it may only be FOUR years…never say never, my friends. A lot of incumbents are going down precisely because the faction of the party the new rules are trying to control is growing increasingly powerful as more Americans get sick and tired of the status quo and resolve to take back our country one primary and one election at a time. Romney was not our 1st choice – he had best remember that. He cannot win without us and we are going to be vigilant and ensure he doesn’t flip-flop on us. If he does, we’ll see if he can win a second term without us…
For heaven’s sakes! Doesn’t his first pick tell you anything about the man – Romney that is! Romney probably bucked the establishment and picked Ryan. He will be a great President. He knows how to turn things around. He has helped and counseled people (with health problems, money problems, drug problems – you name it) for 15 1/2 years (and don’t believe the msm!) and doing all of it without getting 1 red cent! Do you think the rube in office would ever have done that? Everyone who has worked with him and knows him will tell you what an honorable man he is.
This is exactly what we need now!
I’m praying every day that we might get over this cult of personality and recognize a great man for our time!
First rate managers pick first rate assistants. Second rate managers pick third rate assistants. Romney/Ryan, Obama/Biden. Any questions?
“Squishy moderate”????
Have you paid ANY attention to his track record in Massachusetts?
He’s a flaming LIBERAL!
As in most cases, time alone will tell. However, Mr.Preston, Mr.Hukabee has
no ties to ALASKA, as you alluded in paragraph 3.
ARKYDOG1
Ryan/Rubio 2020
Now THAT’S a ticket I hope for and dream about. I can very easily live with Romney/Ryan, but my “Dream Team” is Ryan/Rubio. Way back in 1992, Bush the 1st’s popularity was so high the dems were willing to sit out the dance until 1996. So, they threw an “unknown” into the arena, expecting him to lose. Didn’t happen that way, as we all well know. This year, I think a lot of conservatives wanted to run but felt Obamao would easily win another four years of dictatorship. So they decided to sit this election out and let Romney “take one for the team”. Well, it may not work out that way. Remember 1992 and Clinton? A Romney/Ryan victory will open, I hope, the floodgates in 4-8 years to a number of really good conservative (make that Tea Party) candidates.
How many more times Rubio like the USURPER is NOT a NATURAL Born Citizen . Simply being born in the USA does not qualify you to be called NATURAL born it qualifies you to be a Native Born Citizen which is NOT what the Constitution says is required to be President and Vice President is only a step away from President. NATURAL Born Citizens have TWO American CITIZEN parents not NONE like Rubio or only ONE like the USURPER.
The Founding Fathers went to great lengths to DIFFERENTIATE between FIRST GENERATION Americans i.e. those with FOREIGN Parents but BORN IN AMERICA and give THEM and THEM alone a SPECIAL DISPENSATION to be able to run for President. However they were very clear that subsequent to the FIRST GENERATION all Presidents had to be NATURAL Born. Now if being NATURAL Born was simply a case of being BORN in the USA then there would have been no need for a dispensation for the FIRST GENERATION and they would simply have said ‘To be President you must have been born in the USA”.
BUT THEY DIDN”T DID THEY.
You really need to read the 14th Amendment. The very first sentence contradicts you:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”
Larry J,
It’s even better than the 14 A. There was a court case back in the 1840s in New York that PROVED a “Natural Born” citizen is someone BORN in the country. That case involved a young woman, born of immigrant parents (from Ireland) who didn’t take citizenship, and who returned with her to Ireland not long after she was born.
When she grew up, she returned to claim family inheritance left by members of the family who had stayed in New York. They tried to cut her out, saying she wasn’t a Natural Born citizen. The court ruled that she WAS a Natural Born Citizen.
It was a New York Chancery Court decision, never overturned. Our “Dear Leader”, if he was hatched by Martians, so long as it was in this country, is a “Natural Born” citizen. (Images from “Men In Black” suddenly dance in my mind!
)
Redstate had some in-depth research on this. Here’s a link:
http://www.redstate.com/search/natural+born+citizen
An Préachán
This is getting tiresome. Conservatives need to get this: NBC was defined in Federal court just once, in Minor v. Happersett (1875):
“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, IT WAS NEVER DOUBTED that ALL CHILDREN BORN IN A COUNTRY OF PARENTS WHO WERE ITS CITIZENS BECAME THEMSELVES, UPON THEIR BIRTH, CITIZENS ALSO. THESE WERE THE NATIVES, OR NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
Rubio’s and Jindal’s parents weren’t American citizens at the time of their children’s births. Neither is eligible to be POTUS, nor VPOTUS, by the 12th Amendment.
Such poor understanding of the Constitution. Very sad.
I have great admiration for Rubio but.. His status as a NBC was settled before the SCOTUS in 1875 in the case Minor vs. Happersett..
Obama’s spent 6 trillion and almost 4 years trying to destroy America and all the ideals and values born of freedom and liberty that it stands for.
Paul Ryan destroyed Obama with one speech.
“Paul Ryan destroyed Obama with one speech.”
Yes!…… but now what? Rest assured that no more than two percent of the populace even knows the speech was given while the other 98% haven’t the remotest idea what’s happenin’. And when I refer to the 98% I am not just referring to the average bozo. Do you think that John Boehner, for example, will be motivated into positive action by a Ryan masterful speech? Of course not. I am sure that the Boehners of this world will find “parts of it I like” but “you can only do so much, you know”. When JFK gave a stirring speech it was re-broadcast to the American public over and over. When Reagan gave a stirring speech it was sneered at endlessly by the media and academia. When Ryan, and hopefully Romney tonight, gives a moving and thoughtful speech it will be ignored entirely or purposely distorted by the popular media. So the question remains. Now what?
It’s worse than that. I just got an email from a friend detailing “Ryan’s 10 lies” from his speech.
This guy isn’t a liberal – he just listens to the MSM. They have their bully pulpit, and they have the ears of most of America.
The truly great leaders are those who draw a cadre who are brilliant in their specialties and gives them full trust and authority. He secures their loyalty and stirs them to high performance and achievement of their common objective,
This is Romney’s greatest strength, proven in both business and non-profit organizations. He will bring the same keen perception he showed in choosing Ryan to the selection of his cabinet and Administrative staff. They will be All-Stars.
You are not voting for a Messiah. I wish Romney had more platform personality but I shall vote for him enthusiastically, confident that he will bring a an awesome team of winners to the White House and fulfill his promises.
I have been very critical of Romney but I am pleased with his performance so far. I agree that he is making sound decisions up to this point and I sincerely hope he continues to do so. The Ryan pick was excellent.
Thak you! And Amen! He will amaze us with the people he will pick to surround him and no czars!
Toronto Girl,
Good points.
I’m not the strongest Romney supporter who ever lived, but I believe he is:
a) Competent
b) Ethical
Two qualities notoriously lacking in ALL Democrats and MOST Republican. His particular brand of Republicanism is certainly not as rigidly conservative as mine, but that’s OK. I don’t expect to agree with everything from the Leadership.
The critical issue for Conservatives now is not to forget about his COAT-TAILS…
In this election, AND the mid-terms of the next (crossed fingers, HIS) administration.
I Like Ryan…ALOT…I think it’s a good sign for the people still unenthused about “Mittens”. If he energizes more people to support the “conservative” side of the spectrum, its easier to “box-in” any liberal tendencies Romney might have, because he can only approve the legislation that is sent to him.
That Ryan Energy can help tip the scales. I’d rather have a (slightly) liberal President facing a rightward-moving House and Senate over two terms, than a fire-breathing Patrick Henry in the Whitehouse all alone against an obstructionist ACORN/Alinski/media cabal.
Mit isn’t perfect? Oh well…
His coat-tails may end up being more important than him
It was a brilliant speech and there is so much work to do to erase all the damage. One of the first things will be to better educate so many of the Republican politicians at the federal, state, and local levels about what Obama’s education policies actually are. Not the rhetoric that they seem to believe governs the implementation. Ed Week had an interview yesterday with Jeb Bush where he is quoted as saying that Republicans can agree that Arne Duncan has done a great job. That, quite honestly, is a press release, speechifying understanding of what has been pushed quietly.
A federal DoED that insists on mandating the USSR theory of the mind and using school to access and then monitor the full personality to ensure compliance is not a template any Republican should be agreeing with. And if the Republicans do not begin to understand that Obama and Duncan have taken the urban school model of using the schools for community organizing and spread it to suburbs, we are really in trouble. It turns out that is what “deep learning” is all about.
Lastly, the Republicans need to appreciate that the student centered classroom means that social interaction and changing each student’s values, attitudes, and beliefs is the purpose of classroom activities. The curriculum I have seen for Common Core all centers around pushing centrally planning and redesigning the economy around Sustainability in a post-carbon world. That is inconsistent with th Ryan abhorrence with central economic planning and needs to be recognized from the beginning as an anathema that needs to be banished.
If the Republicans do not begin to make the case that education has become an ideological weapon to destroy the US from within, the social and political poison will continue to seep. Infecting the next generation of voters who will know little but be thoroughly habituated to responding from emotion. They will have also been trained via K-12 to be Social Change Agents who believe active and total Transformation of the US is a must. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/self-efficacy-cultural-proficiency-training-critical-reflection-and-change-agency-development/
Education is a bomb but it has been leaking toxic radiation for a while. Someone needs to get on this recognition ASAP and start explaining it now to the politicians. And the taxpayers. And the students.
Stipulated that
“…education has become an ideological weapon to destroy the US from within, the social and political poison will continue to seep. Infecting the next generation of voters who will know little but be thoroughly habituated to responding from emotion. They will have also been trained via K-12 to be Social Change Agents who believe active and total Transformation of the US is a must.”
And your proposal? I assume that you’re not in favor of a Czar of Classroom Politics to ensure a fair and balanced view. The only ways out that I see are probably privatization of schools to rid ourselves of a constituent teacher population and/or to move to new education models a la coursera. The former would be a full-time job for any administration, and the latter will happen of its own accord.
Paul-I first want to stipulate I did not start with a solution and then go in search of a justification for it. The ed story found me as a parent that recognized that the stories I was being told were not true and made no sense. Then the due diligence lawyer in me licked in to find out what was really going on. To say I ended up shocked with a “Why me? I don’t even like to talk in class unless I need to clarify a point” would be putting it mildly.
The number of toxic interest groups dispensing the poison and living off ed is huge. No parent, even a poorly informed, partisan one, would be OK with what is being mandated for all students. I think we have to go to vouchers with money following the child.
We know how to teach reading, for example, but everything known to work is no longer allowed. Phonetic reading creates Axemaker Minds to varying degrees as a side effect. And that is an impediment to political manipulation.
ESEA originally in the 60s and then the federal DoED really are what destroyed American education. I know that because I literally have the plans. Decade after decade. That’s not an ideological aversion then but a practical, factual one. That recognition will be key to solutions.
Robin, I suspect you still don’t know what’s going on, and why.
Read the Communist Manifesto, and the Humanist Manifestos, and you’ll begin to understand.
Nothing “happened” to our school systems, any more than Pearl Harbor “happened” to the U.S. Navy.
I was born in 1938. My parents never went past the seventh grade and they were both extremely well read. I am beginning to believe children would be better off not going to school at all than be submitted to public education. The only problem I see with this is the educrats would still control the reading lists.
Not when you homeschool your kids…
Jake,
Home School?
Its hard to do when the Property Tax burden is suddenly so high it requires BOTH parents to work in order to support (in our school district) the six figure + incomes and unobtainium zero contribution bennies the Teachers Union Cabal gets.
We did the math, my wife and I together put in over 600 work days last year to match the salary of ONE median level 4th grade teacher in our district, who spent a whopping 183 days in a classroom.
Most of us support the notion of home school, very few of us have the courage to lose one income (and maybe the house?) trying to DO it.
God Bless EVERY parent that has the time, commitment, teaching abilities and sheer GUTS to take on the task of home schooling their kids…
We do it. On one income.
We live in a tiny house, drive old cars, and do without.
Most people can do the same, if they choose to.
I view that taking back the schools is impossible.Sorry,time must be spent on our children from now on,we lost that battle for the schools long ago! To make things worse you people gave up on having children and have little leverage.Reap what you sow !
Robin , thank you for posting that link . I have seen numerous issues on Glenn Beck about certain curriculum , including the rewriting of the Constitution in elementary reading books , which set off warning bells. I will call our local radio program and pass this off to the thousands who listen. I question if the Republicans are aware of this ? I reckon I can question my Congressman. Thanks
What you describe is very real and scary as hell. I think we can cure what ails the public education system in the US with a few simple moves that would, however, cause riots by the teachers’ unions.
1. Abolish the federal Dept. of Ed. Kill it, cut off its head, burn it, and scatter the ashes, then pass an amendment to the Constitution banning such a concept.
2. Pass a federal right-to-work law.
3. Implement pay based on results. No automatic raises for masters degrees that mean diddley squat. No increase in pay period for teachers whose students under-perform. Enable local Boards to dismiss with or w/o cause.
4. Abolish the very idea of tenure. See #1.
5. Have the Justice Dept. go after publicly funded colleges and schools of education like Eric the Red Holder goes after after voter ID, and clean all vestiges of liberal (or conservative) indoctrination from said institutions.
6. This decision should be at the local level, but we are no longer an agrarian society and paying teachers a 12 month salary for 9 months’ work is insane, as is letting expensive infrastrucure sit idle. Implement 12 month school years with appropriately spaced 7 day beaks, but keep the current pay structure.
7. Make passing rigourous courses in Western Civ & History a strict requirement for graduating high school.
I know I’m dreaming, but Big Brother can’t stop that. Yet.
Number 3 is THE best idea out there…
Our teachers (Council Rock & Neshaminy School districts, Bucks County PA) actually COMPLAIN, like its some huge burden, that they “have to continue” their educations because its mandatory….
But then (music please!) they magically get whopping raises after taking a few “credit approved” online summer classes on Unicorns and Fairy Dust. Read a book. Blog. All kinds of fluff, it all counts.
Come September, a 20% raise. For the exact same job, with the exact same responsibilities as June.
Imagine me telling my boss “hey man, I LOVE history, I just got Certified as a Gettyburg Battlefield Tour Guide, isnt that cool? How about Corporate pays me 20% more to do the same thing I’ve BEEN doing, that (snicker, snort) has NOTHING TO DO with Gettysburg?”
How about we just trim the DofEd from the budget? Problem solved. Education is really a local matter anyhow.
In business or in government, a key leadership responsibility is picking good people to run things right. Romney got off to a great start by picking Paul Ryan as his running mate. Getting rid of the lefties and hacks, like Holder, Napolitano and Sebelius, will go a long way toward improving the federal government. The main challenge, however, will be to bring in better ideas, like controlling the size and scope of government, reforming entitlements and getting a handle on our massive debt. Romney/Ryan is the right ticket if they can sell themselves and their ideas to the country.
The Republicans have a great bench. The last two govs of NM, a blue state, are Republican. Even in Illinois, Dan Rutherford and Peter Roskam are great. Aaron Schock and others here are up and comers.
Hopefully they can get momentum and bring the election home.
Ryan’s performance was a Tour de Force. He held the crowd on the convention floor in his hand. He beat Obama about the head and shoulders throughout.
Now we know why Christie’s speech, while rousing, was not a slash and burn raid on Obama’s record. Loads of critics seemed bemused and dejected by his keynote, AllahP and Byron York to name just two. What they missed was the Romney camp’s tactical decision: leave that job to Ryan, don’t upstage your Veep nominee. I hope those critics get it now. We’ll see.
Huckabee was the former governor of Alaska? C’mon Tatler, bone up on your postal abbreviations!
Should R&R win, as I think they will, the REAL, absolutely essential heavy lifting will begin. Getting rid of Obamao, Moochelle, and BiteMe is one thing. Rather like the two or three cockroaches you see, there are many more hidden in the walls. R&R will have to fumigate every federal agency to get rid of remaining libertards in the walls. Obamao’s regime did it. In addition to political appointees, they purged agencies of career people, too, that didn’t believe as they did. Many retired, more were transferred to harmless dead-end jobs, and, yes some were simply fired. They pulled off their coup under cover of the MSM. R&R won’t have the MSM to provide protection, but they’ll have to do the same thing, government-wide, that Obamao did with Justice. The difference being, of course, OUR replacements had better truly believe in and love the Constitution and rule of law. Putting honest, freedom loving troops on the ground, as it were, is a MUST if R&R are to succeed in saving this country. It won’t be easy, but it has got to be done or we’ll never get off this road to ruin.
Yep, day one every single Obama appointee needs to have already packed their bags and cleaned out their office (under supervision, preferably, no more stealing the W keys from the keyboards, nicht wahr?). If the Romney team doesn’t have suitable replacements in mind better the positions go unstaffed than this cancerous plague be allowed to fester.
“Yep, day one every single Obama appointee needs to have already packed their bags and cleaned out their office (under supervision, preferably, no more stealing the W keys from the keyboards, nicht wahr?)”
Let them keep the keys, change the locks! That only on the few offices you are going to keep. Let the rest of the keys fit nothing but the empty offices of the departments you have abolished. I look forward to seeing the unemployment figures rise sharply in the public sector as all the worthless, alphabet agencies are shut down for good.
Uh..wait…what? Huckabee is at the convention, and Palin is not? Huckabee is on the platform giving a speech, and Palin is not? Huckabee ‘lifted the energy level a bit’? Palin would have brought the roof down. Huckabee defends Akin, Palin does not, yet the GOP leadership is desperately trying to drive Akin away, they have his only defender on stage in front of the cameras, while driving Palin off the TV screen at Fox.(Apparently Fox can’t find the time to get Palin’s comments about the convention onair, perhaps because of all the Romney surrogates filling up the schedule. )
It should be obvious that Romney, as nominal leader of the GOP is trying to marginalize the Palin conservative army. He picks Ryan, and the claim is made that Ryan is conservative because he’s religious and is the only person in Washington, D.C. who proposes a budget. Yet Romney clear states that he will have his own budget and it won’t be Ryan’s. Does he then mean his budget won’t be conservative either?
Even Ron Paul has a greater presence at the Convention than Palin, and Ron Paul is not conservative by any definition. So what should conservatives conclude from all of this? Romney is not on our side no matter what he says, no matter who he picks and labels ‘conservative’.
So we conservatives are told to shut up and support the party line because the GOP is better than Obama’s democrats. Ya, good luck with that.
Palin doesn’t seem upset about it.
It’s one of the things I like about her.
Palin is poison. Everything the other side can easily attack in one package: the entire hokey mama grizzly schtick, the lingering Tina Fey “I can see russia from my house” silliness, the quitter, EVERYTHING.
The RNC seems to have cured what was once thought to be terminal tone-deafness, and they are to be applauded for this. No Palin, Priebus removing national level support from Akin; this wouldn’t have happened previously. The RNC let Huckabee speak so as to throw the conservatives a bone, and Huckabee played ball and tried to make it clear that it’s OK if Romney is a mormon.
RNC strategy this time out appears to be Romney portraying upper management and Ryan portraying nerdy up and coming brilliant technician/engineer; i.e. imagery designed to convey the roll up yer shirtsleeves can-do we’re Americans and we can fix this type of thing and otherwise evoking the Apollo 13 mindset back when it was clear that America was great. Look for Romney’s speech to echo that as well. Pretty clever. (Thus far the RNC campaign looks to be an echo of the Ron Howard directed Apollo 13 movie.)
Bear in mind that your brand of conservatives are max 30% of the GOP, not the majority, and the RNC is busy working on getting votes; to win, the republican ticket needs to attract and keep erstwhile Obama votes. That implies that the RNC is going to do its best to make sure you understand that they’re not really ignoring you, but at the same time they’re not about to focus an entire campaign on stuff that concerns conservatives (and only conservatives.)
The liberals and the Press (but I repeat myself) are going to demonize anyone from our side. If we shut down that person based on the liberals’ reaction, we’ve giving them veto authority on our arguments and our selections of people. Screw them and the horse they rode in on.
Palin is not poison. She is better and smarter than she was in 2008, when she had as much talent as she has now, just not the training to work the national stage. It is still too close to 2008 for her to step back in. She knew that in 2011, when she announced she was not running for anything. She knows that now. She is a hell of a fundraiser, and a great galvanizer of one of the the strongest bases of the GOP.
When she is ready to step up, she will. Until then, enjoy watching her grow in strength. And if anyone here is disappointed in Mitt Romney, just remember how disappointed you are in Barack Obama.
Dreams don’t become reality overnight, and rarely is anyone able to realize the whole dream. Anyone who thinks they can or they do is probably spending too much money on lottery tickets and scratch-off cards.
Well, we won’t have to find out if she’s “poison” or not; Sarah Palin ain’t running or putting herself where a hostile reporter might ask her a question ever again. She’ll flirt with the people who can’t see through her enough to keep them buying a book or showing up for a speech so she can keep making money, but she’ll never run for anything again. For this, we can all be thankful.
I agree that she’s not the dummy that the media made her out to be, but the rude fact is that the media did manage to mortally wound her as a politician. She’s smart enough to understand this. Unlike a certain four-lettered congressman from MO, she is smart enough to know when she’s been rendered unelectable.
It’s precisely because she’s smarter than most people give her credit for that she won’t run for office. She can still play a role in the public square. Just not as an elected official.
Now if only a certain congressman were that smart.
And BTW, I think she’s make a great EPA chief.
It should be obvious that Romney, as nominal leader of the GOP is trying to marginalize the Palin conservative army. He picks Ryan, and the claim is made that Ryan is conservative because he’s religious and is the only person in Washington, D.C. who proposes a budget. Yet Romney clear states that he will have his own budget and it won’t be Ryan’s. Does he then mean his budget won’t be conservative either?
Romney is the actual leader. Ryan is a real reformer. After much teasing Palin didn’t run. Her calls for a brokered convention were nothing short of brain dead. Last weekend she was threatening to go 3rd Party if Romney/Ryan don’t deliver. Fair minded, sensible people will give give Romney/Ryan a chance before issuing threats.
Last night Ryan deftly eviscerated Obama without it looking nasty or personal. Palin chose not to get enthusiastically behind the ticket in what is a team sport. She’s a great cultural warrior but she has somewhat marginalized herself. If you need Palin to tell you what to do, you may have too much red meat in your diet.
Mitt Romney really has his work cut out for him Thursday night. He now has to top his wife, Ann, and his running mate, Paul, both of whom have shown brilliantly in Tampa this week.
As the last two nights have shown, Romney’s strength is the quality of his decision-making. Speech-making is not Romney’s strength. Romney won’t make a better speech than Ryan did last night. We are electing a CEO, not a glib Chief Speaker. We have that now.
Romney was my first choice. He will be an exceptional President.
Doesn’t Ryan remind you of the nerds in high school who always knew the answers and whom the teachers loved?
He is just fun to watch and listen to!
God bless this ticket and I will be proud to vote for the Romney/Ryan ticket.
I came across a couple of articles (op eds) that accuse Ryan of lying. One was Salon but the other can be seen here. Thoughts?
Glad to know where you are coming from bobcat
Good of you to provide the service of linking to the DNC’s latest talking points such as “Ryan lies about Medicare” etc.
Obama will kill Medicare by folding it into Obamacare — he lied, btw, when he said he wouldn’t do this — and, ultimately, make health care much worse fo the elderly.
Ryan will save Medicare by providing more consumer choices for the elderly returning savings to the system to keep in solvent.
He is not going to take the savings from the system and “finance tax cuts for wealthy Americans, and deficit reduction” as your link claims.
Or let us from your link consider: the rebuttal to Ryan’s claim that Obama’s presidency “began with a perfect Triple-A credit rating for the United States; it ends with a downgraded America.”
Your link says “Standard & Poors downgraded the country’s sovereign debt rating in 2011 because congressional Republicans,”
No, it didn’t. The Republican-controlled house submitted and passed a budget, remember? If there budget was supported by Obama there would have been no downgrade. If the GOP supported Obama’s proposed budget, yes there would have been a downgrade.
You submitted a link not merely to a partisan site but to a propaganda one.
Good reply Bill, but cool your jets a little, I went and checked out the lefty sites last night too, to see what they would do about this GREATAMUNDO speech!
The New Republic has one of those articles (I will not even bother to link). TNR has come down insanely over the past twenty years, they were once intelligent and more or less middle of the road, now they’ll have to print it on toilet paper if it gets any worse, printing stuff like this.
CBS News this morning managed to have their panel give a reasonably objective view of things, they said there were “questions” about some points but didn’t actually resolve them either way. Well, for CBS that’s reasonable!
I’ve already posted on every other Ryan thread on PJM, but that was one *amazing* speech last night, and I feel privileged to have seen it. Sure sets the bar high for Mitt tonight. Maybe he should just bring back Ryan and sit back, CEO style. Would work for me!
“You submitted a link not merely to a partisan site but to a propaganda one.”
I was afraid of that, which is why I asked for input from those here in this forum who are better informed than I am.
you want input?
or you want to input some probama?
in the off chance you are sincere about learning the truth- take a look at this attack on Ryan’s speech and the line by line rebuttal http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/08/30/obama_camp_melts_down_over_ryans_speech
and note the Dem fundraiser letter today calls Ryan a liar multiple times over with a couple scare you lies of their own to boot.
“”"”"Friend –
If you’ve seen any coverage of Paul Ryan’s speech in Tampa, you know that the consensus among journalists and independent observers is that it was … factually challenged.
He lied about Medicare. He lied about the Recovery Act. He lied about the deficit and debt. He even dishonestly attacked Barack Obama for the closing of a GM plant in his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin — a plant that closed in December 2008 under George W. Bush. He also failed to offer one constructive idea about what he would do to move the country forward.
Don’t roll your eyes. We can’t just groan and shrug and remark to our like-minded friends that this is ridiculous, because this is a significant moment in this campaign.
The fact that this speech, on this huge stage, is this blatantly false represents a huge bet by the Romney campaign — they’ve decided that facts, truth and reality will not be a brake on their campaign message. And they just signaled to the extremist billionaires and corporate interests that support them that they should go ahead and spend their hundreds of millions of dollars attacking Barack Obama with whatever lies can work.”"”"
What I want to know is the actual truth. That is all. I am no troll, as Bill above asserts. I am not a Democrat, as you suspect. I am pro-choice, pro-gay rights conservative. If you have a problem with that, to damned bad. That is what I am. I don’t come to any forum’s table with any pretenses & natch, don’t appreciate being pigeonholed. You don’t like people of my particular political stripe, too damned bad. I enjoy this blog & don’t plan to go anywhere. So suck it up. You knew before you came in here that there’d be posters you don’t like or agree with.
Salon put viruses on both my computers. Suggest you not visit there, for your computer and your sanity.
Are you sure it was Salon or some advertising source on one of its pages? Unless one gets a warning about a given page from a firewall or antivirus program, I am not sure how one figures out from where a virus comes…….
It is a fact Bobbcat, that the Janesville plant closed in Dec.of 2008..before Obama took office.
The plant continued work until April 2009. Look. It. Up.
Excuse me while i change search engines.
Ryan hit it out of the park.
I think we actually have a chance to go in a more constitutional direction and maybe, maybe, shrink the size of the leviathan with Romney and Ryan. I wasn’t believing that possible 4 months ago.
This convention has been very tight and will be a nice contrast to the shrill contraceptive fest that will be on display next week in NC.
I am more and more confident that Romney and Ryan are demonstrating competence and an attractive alternative to voters. I think they are going to be elected and will get something around 315-25 electoral college votes.
There is a deepening bench of conservatives who seem interested in what the Constitution actually says. We shall see if they start dismantling the suffocating welfare state that republicans and democrats have assembled over the last 110 years.
Last day to avoid being propagandized, turn on your computer, watch the Convention on C-SPAN Live Stream. No BS, no dog whistles.
Good point about C Span, but if your dull witted enough to be at all suceptible to what “Tingles” Mathews, Andrea Mitchell, Drawlin Bobby Schiefer or “Stay On Top o’ This” has to say in editorial as they “cover” the convention, you need a serious exposure to critical thought analysis technique and some education on US history, the Constitutional Convention and ratification. A survey of socialism and Marxist doctine and its economic application on a country by country basis would also be helpful.
I am dumbfounded by all of these “analysts”. Their lack of intellectual curiosity, the shallowness and one dimensional quality of their supposed educations, and unwavering allegiance to a demonstrably failed ideology exposes their collective weakness as a commentating class. These are all people who “feel” things and think very little, except romantically about utopia.
Glad I am not a shareholder in any of their parent corporations.
Yahoo! was in full damage control mode this morning, as part of the Obama network.
Romney. Is. Going. To. Lose. You might want to think about moving to the center, where you have a chance of winning consistently. Become the pragmatic party, not the bats*it crazy party. The GOP demographic is rapidly losing ground in the US due to uncontrolled immigration (thanks, corporate America) and unless Anglos start popping out babies a lot faster, that ain’t going to change.
Americans noticed when the GOP crowd booed the gay soldier in the debates, and when the GOP crowd chanted “let him die” when the candidates were discussing a hypothetical accident victim without private health insurance. America can see that Romney has surrounded himself with hawks who can’t wait to bomb Iran. Americans have trouble relating to a draft-dodging, outsourcing, off-shoring elitist.
Somewhere in America, you can find the grave of the last compassionate conservative. You might want to consider taking up that legacy.
Thanks for the faux helpful suggestions MAD,but there are two sorry folks who took advice like yours: George “punching bag”,”compassionate conservatism” Bush,and” Don’t mention his name” MCain:both pathetic and discredited losers.As for demographics,Anglos are at replacement level and higher in red states,and below in blue states , as their resident libtards refuse to breed and/or abort. This why Obama and the demtards are so desperate to welcome illegal aliens and get them to vote fraudulenly.The only grave being dug is for the bloated,brutal,corrupt monstrosity called the welfare state, it will be buried nationally.Dream on!
So when Romney wins by historically large measures in all minority groups, you’ll change your tune, right?
Concern troll is concerned.
From your post, I can deduce that a “move to the center” really means a move to the center left because that’s how far to the left you really are.
“College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life.”
Unfortunately many collge graduates are perfectly happy to live in their childhood bedrooms.
In the unending barrage of misinformation, disinformation, and outright lies that characterize the whole RepubliCON “message”, Paul Ryan’s speech was just another day at the office.
He lied about Medicare. Seriously people, you don’t understand what vouchers will do to Medicare? You don’t know that the money Obama shaved from Medicare to fund the ACA comes from the pockets of INSURERS, not the recipients??? Oh, wait, you actually read the drool that pjmedia puts out, that explains it.
But, Ryan didn’t stop with lying about Medicare. He lied about the Recovery Act. He lied about the deficit and debt. He even dishonestly attacked Barack Obama for the closing of a GM plant in his hometown of Janesville, Wisconsin — a plant that closed in December 2008 under George W. Bush.
I could go on but what’s the point, you people actually seem to ENJOY being lied to.
Instead you, who are a genius, are gonna vote for a commie who says that American Business did not build America’s economic might.
Congrats.
I just hope that all the geniuses like you will lose, so we will not be compelled to live in the Soviet Union of America (and then to rebuild it from scratch when you redistributionists are done using other people’s money.)
Obi-jonKenobi, do comment using other names on PJM? Do you comment as Cynical Wonder and/or Jaycen and more?
Isn’t that… lying?
Don’t be so shy now.
Uh uh. Wrong plant ?
What about this:
Emails obtained by The Daily Caller show that the U.S. Treasury Department, led by Timothy Geithner, was the driving force behind terminating the pensions of 20,000 salaried retirees at the Delphi auto parts manufacturing company.
The move, made in 2009 while the Obama administration implemented its auto bailout plan, appears to have been made solely because those retirees were not members of labor unions. …
Twenty thousand of its workers lost nearly their entire pensions when the government bailed out GM.?At the same time, Delphi employees who were members of the United Auto Workers union saw their pensions topped off and made whole.
source: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/emails-geithner-treasury-drove-cutoff-of-non-union-delphi-workers-pensions/#ixzz2319IZahh
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20,000 is enough ?
And the coal miners ?
And the workers at the pipeline that we will not build ?
And all the workers not hired because businesses are terrorized by regulations and Obamacare ?
And the oil not drilled for ?
And the trillions added to the deficit ?
Lies lies, only you leninists know the true truth.
As usual, the truth lies somewhere in between. The following pageseems to have it pretty accurate. That Janesville plant did continue some work until mid 2009.
I get your gig though: Trolling this forum.
Yeah, you caught me red-handed (no pun intended but I’m sure many of you will think this is proof-positive that I’m a communist).
But, hey, picking apart the idiocy that goes down on this site is like shooting fish in a barrel. It’s almost as fun as watching the clown parade that is the modern RepubliCON party.
OK, Obi-Idiot, since you’re doing the useful idiot/fellow traveller parroting of today’s Ryan Lied communist talking points, enlighten us; tell us EXACTLY how he lied. You can’t punk; facts are as toxic to lefty idiots as mathmatics is to Comrade Obama.
I’m so looking forward to the day when we finally have a serious disagreement with lefty punks.
Gee, Art, you ARE the slowest bozo on the bus, aren’t you?
I gave TWO actual examples just in the few paragraphs above and could have gone on but didn’t and won’t because you need to be in a remedial class and I don’t teach those.
Two rather sorry examples that just a bit of research would find reasonable disputes.
There’s “reasonable” dispute over what Ryan’s plan would do to Medicare? Really? Where in the world do you find that??? Do you not understand what a voucher is? Do you not understand that it would LIMIT medical coverage and that the AVERAGE computation of that limitation is in the thousands of dollars a year??? There’s your “gutting” of Medicare, not the billions Obama took from INSURERS in the Medicare program in order to help make coverage available to most Americans.
Moving on;
Ryan LIES when he says he wants to protect the most vulnerable while his budget is balanced by MAINTAINING the level of spending on the military – which the U.S. already spends as much as the next 17 – 27 nations (depending on source) – and drastically reducing domestic programs, something the Catholic bishops called an “immoral disaster”.
Ryan LIES when he says Obama has “amassed more debt than all past presidents combined”. The national debt stood at $10.626 trillion on the day that President Obama took office. It now stands slightly above $15 trillion. You DO understand simple math, right? Does this “fact” hold up?
Better yet, let’s do national debt by PERCENTAGE increase by recent presidents;
Carter, 42.3% (four years)
Reagan, 188.6%
Bush l, 55.6% (four years)
Clinton, 35.6%
Bush ll, 89.0%
Obama, 41.4% (three years, all of which were in a period of recovery from the worse financial meltdown in almost a century caused by his predecessor).
And, this barely scratches the surface of the dishonesty. You can literally take every one of Lyin’ Ryan’s sentences apart.
Any more questions?
I didn’t think so.
“INSURERS” “INSURERS” “INSURERS”
“…the billions Obama took from INSURERS…”
Nice that is in caps C. Blunder. I guess the “INSURERS” will print money much like Mr. President does. What a view into A Reality. The Modern Liberal orifice opens and reveals that “INSURERS” have this money laying around just so Mr. President can scarf it up and hand it over to whatever. This “INSURERS” money is magic, it is produced from Modern Liberal thought patterns which wish it into existence, and it’s there for the taking, just to supply the Righteous Modern Liberal Morality of The Take.
Nobody “built that money”, nobody worked, as in the “INSURED” who will now pay higher premiums to offset the cost.
One Cynically Wonders if it this example of Modern Liberal thought would hold up in it’s own household. Can’t you see it now, taking a dollar from the blunt $$$ to buy $4.00 gas to get down to the clinic to get the “free” contraceptive control pills that grow wild in Modern Liberal minds, then returning and expecting that dollar + Hope and Change to still be there.
Your be blunt free for awhile!
Geez C. Blunder, 2+2 can equal 5 in that world, no doubt.
Hey, what’s your next main ID going to be? This Obi thing is lamer than Your Sensei.
How does anyone know how well a voucher program works, as it has never been tried (because no one has allowed it to be tried). What we do know though is that when gov’t overtakes most any given function, it becomes very expensive. I wonder why that is. Could it be due to people coming to the table expecting so many things to be “free” when they can afford to pay for some of it themselves? Imagine what car insurance would cost if we all expected oil changes & tire rotations to be covered. Suppose if we all expected our car insurance to cover a percentage of our gas expense. Can you imagine how expensive car insurance would become under those circumstances? It’s no small wonder health care insurance is so damned expensive.
No, lefty idiot, I actually went to school before the KGB, excuse me, NEA, turned schools into indoctrination camps. Your naked assertion is just that, a naked assertion; let’s have some evidence and argument you ignorant, uneducated, though probably highly credentialled, lefty punk.
Like I said, Art, I don’t do remedial education. If you haven’t figured it out by now – despite your good fortune at going to a school in the old days which we all know must have been much better – I don’t have time to take you on as a project.
I will give you links to literally dozens of journalists who have been so moved by Ryan’s speech that they actually took a break from their usual “he said/she said” style of journalism and practiced what we really need now, forensic journalism (digging up the truth and calling out the liars).
So, for your reading enjoyment, here’s what many, including Faux Nooze, FactCheck and everything in between, are saying about the mind-numbing list of lies by Lyin’ Ryan. Note, we’re NOT talking about reasonable differences of opinion, we’re talking about LYING:
Dave Weigel, Slate.com:
“incredible string of false or misleading statements”
http://www.slate.com/…
Joan Walsh, Salon.com:
“His Republican National Convention speech was stunning for its dishonesty”
http://www.salon.com/…
Jonathan Cohn, the New Republic:
The Most Dishonest Convention Speech … Ever?
http://www.tnr.com/…
TPM:
Top 5 Fibs In Paul Ryan’s Convention Speech
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/…
Michael Tomasky, the Daily Beast:
“Paul Ryan pushed American politics into new territory with his convention speech, effectively daring Democrats and the media to call him out on his string of blatant falsehoods”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/…
Jonathan Bernstein, the Washington Post:
Paul Ryan fails — the truth
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…
AP:
FACT CHECK: Convention speakers stray from reality
http://www.google.com/…
Dan Amira, NY Magazine:
Paul Ryan Bets on the Ignorance of America
http://nymag.com/…
Fox News contributor, Sally Kohn:
“Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/…
Steve Benen, Maddowblog:
Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/…
Huffington Post:
PAUL TALES: RYAN MISLEADS, AGAIN AND AGAIN
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
Politicsusa:
5 Biggest lies in Romney’s speech:
http://www.politicususa.com/…
Bob Cesca:
Paul Ryan’s Speech: Lies, Lies and More Lies
http://bobcesca.com/…
Washington Post Editorial Board:
Mr. Ryan’s misleading speech
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…
Factcheck.org
“Paul Ryan’s acceptance speech at the Republican convention contained several false claims and misleading statements.”
http://factcheck.org/…
Andrew Sullivan, the Daily Beast:
The lies and lies of Paul Ryan
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/…
Ryan Lizza, the New Yorker:
The Paul Ryan Speech: Five Hypocrisies
http://www.newyorker.com/…
Jonathan Chait, NY magazine:
Paul Ryan’s large lies and one big truth
http://nymag.com/…
James Downie, Washington Post:
Paul Ryan’s breathtakingly dishonest speech
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…
James Fallow, Atlantic
Paul Ryan and the post truth convention
http://www.theatlantic.com/…
Robert Schlesinger, US News
http://www.usnews.com/…
LYIN’ Santorum
Rick Santorum repeats inaccurate welfare attack on Obama
http://www.latimes.com/…
Juan Cole:
Top Ten Repeated Paul Ryan Lies
http://www.juancole.com/…
The Guardian:
Paul Ryan’s speech: a round-up of his most audacious untruths
http://www.guardian.co.uk/…
Charles Pierce, Esquire:
Paul Ryan Is the Newest New Nixon, a Moocher Belied
http://www.esquire.com/…
Huffington Post
Busted! Ryan’s speech fools no one
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
David Firestone, NYT
Beyond Factual Dishonesty
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/…
Josh Barro, Bloomberg
Paul Ryan’s Hypocritical Attack on Barack Obama
http://www.bloomberg.com/…
Any questions?
I didn’t think so.
Dave Weigel misrepresented himself in order to get media jobs. Nearly everyone else you cite is a partisan Democrat or a left-leaning outlet, with Sally Kohn’s piece at Fox representing the former.
Really — Juan Cole? Andrew Sullivan, the Trig Truther? Maddow Blog?
You need a better class of partisan hacks to cite.
Wow, impressive! But still not close to the number of personalities you yourself have been on PJM there, Cynical Wonder.
Hey, where is Cynical Wonder O Be Bullshit One?
And does Mr. President’s boot lick better after 3+ years?
These are questions you can acually answer. Come on now! Be brave!
Buuuuck, buck, buck, buck.
@Obi-JonKenobi who asked above: “Any more questions?”
Yes, just one. Can you take your lefty bias elsewhere, like the DU or the Daily Kos?
@Obi-Punk – Those aren’t journalists, they’re fellow travellers and useful idiots like you. Of course, a useful idiot like you would think that opinion constitutes evidence. I’m confident you fools on the left will follow your standard playbook and overplay your hand. I just hope I’m still young enough to enjoy it when you decide to go all Helter-Skelter.
Art Chance; proving once again that denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.
Hi O B Bullshit One.
Has there ever been a denial or answer about? -
C. Blunder, aren’t you Obi-jonKenobi, Jaycen, Your Sensei, moho and a host of many, many others?
A sampling of the You People towering intellect –
Here we have a “classic” admission -
21. Obi-jonKenobi
“I could go on but what’s the point, you people actually seem to ENJOY being lied to.”
August 30, 2012 – 9:52 am
Jaycen posed as a very angry conservative. So angry it was Modern Liberal with a few words changed -
Jaycen
“You people don’t care…”
August 26, 2012 – 5:55 pm
C. Blunder being it’s usual self here. After all, nothing really exists but itself, the Cesspool, and a mirror.
Cynical Wonder
“What you people…”
August 26, 2012 – 5:01 pm
Cynical Wonder
“You people are clueless …”
Cynical Wonder
Cynical Wonder
“…you people genuflect and spread your rear cheeks for to follow up on that one. Weak …”
July 14, 2012 – 9:45 pm
Indeed. “Weak”.
Two old Persons Galore! The Wayback Machine speaks!
41. Your Sensei
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS! . . .”
“…looking at you people…”
January 9, 2011 – 7:02 pm
39. Moho:
“…you people really do make me feel like an intellectual giant.”
Jan 8, 2010 – 5:38 pm
Yes, the Cesspool does seem to have an endless supply of names for shit. In that world, it’s all you have.
Buuuck, buck, buck, buck.
Let me guess. You want to live in an America where everything is given to you for free but you aren’t free. Just understand that in that America, you better not ever ask for “some more.”
You really don’t have a clue, do you?
Do you see anything that I posted that even vaguely supports your knee-jerk rant?
Are you Cynical Wonder too. Need a clue?
Hey Cynical Wonder, how about it. Are you dissappered now?
Seriously, Me. Lucky, put down the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard, you’re getting delusional.
Can’t answer a simple question? Of course not. Liars are like that. All this puffed up moral bullshit, and you can’t say yes or no.
Have we seen the last of Cynical Wonder?
Your Sensei, yeah right on, lame, lame, lame.
Soup and sandwich, Soup and sandwich…
16. Lonnie Wild
Ryan’s obvious sincerity????????? You clowns a delusional (again/still).
August 30, 2012 – 10:28 am
Obi-jonKenobi
Seriously, Me. Lucky, put down the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard, you’re getting delusional.
August 30, 2012 – 4:32 pm
Uber-jerkObamanoid: There’s not much to say to you, other than to plead with you to get your syphillis treated;although I enjoy your buffonish condescension,and your parrotting of “facts”,your performances are ultimately embarrassing and unpleasant: a sort of semi computer -literate Joe Biden with STDs and a teleprompter.Nevertheless,your “talents” go to waste here:Go apply for a job at MSNBC,that will giver you greater scope for your ravings,but take your penicillin first!
Um, deguello, maybe you should brush up on your snark technique a bit. I know it’s challenging for someone that was home schooled, but I know you’ll feel better – and the rest of us will be better entertained – if you do.
Maybe you ought to brush up on truth.
Truth?, Mr. Lucky, you couldn’t handle the truth!
What about this O B Bullshit One?
Come on, who’s who here?
21. Obi-jonKenobi
“I could go on but what’s the point, you people actually seem to ENJOY being lied to.”
August 30, 2012 – 9:52 am
Jaycen posed as a very angry conservative. So angry it was Modern Liberal with a few words changed -
Jaycen
“You people don’t care…”
August 26, 2012 – 5:55 pm
C. Blunder being it’s usual self here. After all, nothing really exists but itself, the Cesspool, and a mirror.
Cynical Wonder
“What you people…”
August 26, 2012 – 5:01 pm
Cynical Wonder
“You people are clueless …”
Cynical Wonder
Cynical Wonder
“…you people genuflect and spread your rear cheeks for to follow up on that one. Weak …”
July 14, 2012 – 9:45 pm
Indeed. “Weak”.
Two old Persons Galore! The Wayback Machine speaks!
41. Your Sensei
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS! . . .”
“…looking at you people…”
January 9, 2011 – 7:02 pm
39. Moho:
“…you people really do make me feel like an intellectual giant.”
Jan 8, 2010 – 5:38 pm
Buuuck, buck, buck, buck.
The Washington Post, Huffington Post, Sally Kohn, the dailybeast.com et al . Have you got anything that’s not in the pocket of the charlaran in chief
Bryan, I have a question. Watching this on the youtube channel, I got the distinct impression that the energy level of the audience, based on the volume of cheers, was a lot higher last night than Tuesday. Is that what you experienced there, or did they have audio issues Tuesday that they fixed yesterday?
I worry that this could be the last election! hugobama drones bought and paid for waiting for the govt check,selling the food stamps,intimidating voters,standing in line to vote.This time ALL SALES ARE FINAL,the slipperiest president of all presents to you “THE NEW GREECE”.
OK, you lawyers, gov watch dogs is this really true? Sorry it’s so long…
IF YOU VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN, YOU CAN EXPECT MORE! Remember what he told Russia’s Putin.THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION: Obama has signed 923 Executive Orders in 40 months!
What did Congress do in those 40 months? (The House – considerable. The Senate -nothing, not even a budget nor allowing any House bill to be considered.) A whole new order must prevail in Wash. DC as a result of this next election! Now look at these:
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the of all persons. Postmaster General to operate a national registration
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
-EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Feel free to verify the “executive orders” at will… and these are just the major ones…
I’m sure you’ve all heard the tale of the “Frog in the Pot”… you all comfortable???
Watch Obama’s actions, not his words! By his actions he will show you where America is headed.
. Just this week, Obama has issued a new executive order that seeks to “harmonize” U.S. economic regulations with the rest of the world. This new executive order is yet another incremental step that is pushing us closer to a North American Union and a one world economic system. Unfortunately, most Americans have absolutely no idea what is happening. The American people need to understand that Barack Obama is constantly looking for ways to integrate the United States more deeply with the rest of the world. The globalization of the world economy has accelerated under Obama, and this latest executive order represents a fundamental change in U.S. economic policy. Now federal regulators will be required to “harmonize” their work with the international community.
Those 10nnn and 11mmm go back decades. The President has long had truly dictatorial powers in the event of a National Emergency, which at the time really meant a nuclear attack. There’s plenty of room for speculation for what the Obama/Soros Junta might do with those powers were there a National Emergency for them caused by their losing, or being unable to steal, the November election, however.
Those Executive Orders are not only decades old – the first few date to the Kennedy administration – they don’t do what Toronto Gal says they do. The first one, 10990, for example, re-establishes the Federal Safety Board and has nothing to do with transportation or communications.
You can research the whole lot of them at the Federal Register. For example, to look at Executive Order 10990, go to: http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/1962.html and scroll down to 10990.
For what it’s worth, spinoneone was making the same erroneous claims about the same executive orders in posts the other day. I have found various websites that make the same claims but as far as I can tell, they are conspiracy theories and I haven’t found any substantiation for these claims, just the claims themselves.
“OK, you lawyers, gov watch dogs is this really true? Sorry it’s so long”
Sorry you can’t read. I asked if it was true and I think I got some answers. Too bad yours wasn’t one I could learn from.
Snarky!!!!
NO, no it wasn’t a reponse to Art Chance it was a response to Ragnar!
A rather disengenous posting. Not a single one of the EOs you listed was done by Obama.
The only one that you mention that Obama did do you don’t even give out the number so we can look it up. That smells, and it lessens your credibility considerably.
Well, aren’t we just the bees knees…
Whaaa!? He doesn’t like ZZTop? Heh!
“He brought Generation X into its own with his line about music: “My playlist starts with AC/DC and ends with Led Zeppelin.””
I heard no mention of the band Generation X.
When the primary rolled around in NC, I was not firmly in the AnbodyButRomney camp. When it was obvious that Romney was going to win the nomination, I had a sinking feeling that irrespective of any election, my country was gone.
How silly of me.
In the intervening months, I’ve grown steadily more and more confident of Mitt Romney. Funny, but all the corrupt media attacks forced me to defend him, learn more about him, and in the process my respect has grown enormously. His tenure at Bain, for example, I had no idea he was instrumental at reviving dying companies. A person with even half of a brain can figure that he was not a corporate raider robbing a company’s assets and hollowing out profits, but a person who turned the management around and turned losers into winners. This creates jobs, moonbats, anybody who doesn’t know that shouldn’t vote.
I knew about his miraculous recovery of the Utah Olympics. I remember how embarrassing that was for us as a country at the time. Corruption overflowing and mismanagement. Enter Romney and shishboombah all better. But he just was not a ‘fighter’, he was boring, not a good conservative, albeit a great executive and a smart businessman.
How silly of me.
I’m was moving to his side by mid-June, and as the attacks on him revealed his resolve like flame tempers steel, I thought, hey, I was wrong about him. He is a fighter, but will he fight for me?
Enter Paul Ryan. Gotta love that kid. I love Wisconsin so much this year I’m actually eating more cheese! The speech he gave was reminiscent of JFK in it’s emotional tugs at patriotism and potential, it was Reagan in its tenor, humble, a servant’s heart, but it was all Ryan, too, youthful exuberance, idealism, altruism. How could you help but like him?
I forgot – all you have to do to make a progressive dislike you is to tell him the truth. Egads, but I love him for ticking them off, too.
Romney did not have me at “hello”. But by george, he’s got me now. What he says tonight matters, but now I have the faith in him I didn’t have a few months ago. He’s going to be great, wait and see.
Unfortunately have to bring the “Ryan worshippers” back into the world of reality. Conservatives like Steve Ellis (Taxpayers for Common Sense) and Norm Ornstein (American Enterprise Institute) are calling Ryan hypocritical for not revealing his role in Bowles-Simpson. It’s one thing to criticize Obama for not accepting & implementing the report. But Ryan voted against it, even though he was on the commission.
Lots more truth on this site: http://www.politifact.com
He voted against it because it did not address the huge cost of obamacare. He tried to get them to focus on it and they didn’t. So good for him!
If you notice the 2 men who were the head of the program have nothing but praise for Ryan!
What better symbol of the corruption of basic truth by the RepubliCONs than holding their convention in a hall built by the taxpayers with a “We Built It” sign on it intended to mock Obama’s comment about how we all benefit from the infrastructure and institutions that we’ve built together.
And, who can miss the wonderful symbolism of Rawmoney’s yacht floating in the harbor flying the Cayman Island flag.
Reality is stranger than fiction. You can’t make this stuff up, no one would believe you.
UBER-jerkWnabe Reality is indeed stranger than fiction:Our marxoid affirmative action wonder boy of a prez,not meeting with his job council because he’s too busy playing golf,when not lickspittling members of the left-wing plutocracy,for money with which to smear Romney;his transformation into an Ivy league scholar after spending years as an admitted shiftless cokehead(never writing a single article despite his having been editor of the Harvard Law Review};his destroying tens o thousands of jobs by prohibiting domestic oil drilling,while giving George Soros(one of his masters} billions to innvest in Brazilian oil wells;his race-baiting,butt-faced,wife passed off as a example of feminine glamor;and last but not least libtard trolling. Will wonders ever cease?
Obama Derangement Syndrome is a marvel to behold.
Get help before you drool yourself to death.
Oh yes, the Cesspool of names and ID’s on PJM is giving out advice.
Cut to it, who’s up next Alice in Cynical Wonderland?
Another one gone.
UBERJERK :Not as marvelous as your ability to write drivel while suffering from tertiary syphillis.
OUCH!, deguello, you REALLY know how to hurt a guy!!
Wow, light O B Bullshit Oneder, light.
What,is that you tongue nailed to Uranus? Can’t let it out? Who’s who?
Where the hell is C. Blunder? You two going steady or what?
Or is that a Kick Me sign nailed to ass?
Buuuck, buck, buck, buck.
That is ridiculous. Obama meant what he said the first time he said it and we all heard it in its entirety. He had to backpedal after his little faux pas as his handlers realized that once again, off-prompter, he’d put his foot in it and revealed his true ideology. However, in his case, he really didn’t build it because more and more he reveals himself to be an Affirmative Action hire, both politically and academically. No one was lacking in any comprehension skills when they’d heard his initial remarks and his “roads and bridges” excuse was flimsy at best. As Mitt has said, “Do you credit the school bus driver if the student makes the honor roll?”
Unlike Barry, Mitt really did build that and he earned that yacht. It wasn’t given to him by a political donor in exchange for favors. I don’t blame him for flying the Cayman Island flag either. All wealthy people register their toys in offshore tax havens, even Dems. Surprised? Barry is playing a class warfare game because that’s all he’s got left besides screaming RACISM!!
Media does more research into Paul Ryan’s background within 24 hours of his nomination than they have done for the little king in 4 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2194116/Revealed-Paul-Ryans-black-girlfriend-stunning-cheerleader-stole-heart-coming-political-student.html
Now you know what racism really is.
Of course, it appears that Mr Ryan has actually had man/woman relationships in his life so it wasn’t hard to discover one, whereas barack obama had to makeup fantasy girlfriends with the help of an unrepentant terrorist. Why is that, I wonder.
http://www.prewitt.net/MittRomneyInsite2012-08-16.pdf
I hope this comes up. It is a letter from the people who bought Mitt’s Park City home.
Ryan, Christie, Rubio, Schock, Jindal . . . the GOP is loaded with great young talent! I like the future prospects.
The shame of it all is that he lied for do long and so often to “make” his point. But then, when’s the last time a Republicon let the truth get in the way of an objective? Nelson Rockefeller was among the last honest Republicans.
Bad aim. That should’ve read, “so long”. Oops.
Bad Aim is right,your druggie father was “aiming” for a human,at the commie-hippie freak orgy where you were conceived,and instead impregnated a retarded sheep;it’s too bad,but blaming “republicons” for it, and trolling for the demtards isn’t going to make you any smarter.Neither will your obviously ironic monniker.I was going to suggest you join a circus freakshow,but you are probably a democrat, so doing so would be redundant.Still, you could try and have children with Debbie Wasserman-Stain Schlutz,and continue the family tradition of breeding half-human freaks.
“College graduates should not have to live out their 20s in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at fading Obama posters and wondering when they can move out and get going with life.”
Well, at least they could get new posters.
Runners question Paul Ryan’s claim that he ran a marathon in under 3 hours AUGUST 31, 2012 BY: SAMANTHA CHANG
http://www.examiner.com/article/runners-question-paul-ryan-s-claim-that-he-ran-a-marathon-under-3-hours