In May of 2011, President Obama went to the border at El Paso, Texas, and in his “alligators and moats” speech claimed the border is safe and mocked calls for more border security.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Maybe they’ll say we need a moat. Or alligators in the moat.
They’ll never be satisfied. And I understand that. That’s politics.
But the truth is, the measures we’ve put in place are getting results. Over the past two and a half years, we’ve seized 31 percent more drugs, 75 percent more currency, and 64 percent more weapons than before. Even as we’ve stepped up patrols, apprehensions along the border have been cut by nearly 40 percent from two years ago – that means far fewer people are attempting to cross the border illegally
Also, despite a lot of breathless reports that have tagged places like El Paso as dangerous, violent crime in southwest border counties has dropped by a third. El Paso and other cities and towns along the border are consistently rated among the safest in the nation.
In March of 2011, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said, “There is a perception that the border is worse now than it ever has been. That is wrong. The border is better now than it ever has been.” Napolitano went on to say that violence from Mexico’s drug war has not spilled over into the U.S., citing statistics that show crime along the border has either stayed flat or even gone down. Napolitano has visited the border several times to hail the cooperation between local and federal authorities and has visited Hidalgo County, where her friend Lupe Treviño is the sheriff.
During Napolitano’s visit in February 2012, Sheriff Treviño noted: “We tell the truth and say violent crime is down and cartel violence has been kept south of the river, but we get criticized because we say we need money. If we’re going to continue to lower the violent crime rate, we have to have a sustained maintenance. That’s why we need the continued influx of federal funds.”
But how accurate are the statistics that the local law enforcement agencies send their states and ultimately to the federal government? PJM/PJTV has obtained exclusive hidden camera video from inside the Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office. In this video, a crime analyst – the person responsible for entering official data into the Uniform Crime Reporting system from the Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office – admits that the Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office manipulates its crime statistics systematically.
I wonder if this is political. Well, obviously it’s political but I wonder if it’s partisan politics. I mean, if/When Romney/Ryan get in the White House, will this sheriff start manipulating the data so it looks like crime is going up? Well the Democrats then scream “See! They don’t know what they’re doing on the border! Crime is going up down there since they got in office.” I guess the big question is:
Is this about money? Or Politics? When did the sheriff begin manipulating the data? Before or after Sec. Napolitano’s visit? Before or After President Obama get elected?
I don’t think it’s about national politics on the sheriff’s end. I think it’s about money and power and getting re-elected.
However, I would bet a hundred dollars that it IS pushed by politics. I would not be surprised to find out that the Sheriff was promised “things” for keeping the numbers low. Allowing illegal immigration is part of the left-wing strategy for bringing the US to it’s knees, so that it can be re-built (for our own good), so the idea that Nap’s goons would swing by and politely offer him some funds to betray his town is completely believable.
All that is necessary to get rid of any Texas border sheriff is a little FBI undercover work. There is a reason people fight so hard and spend so much money to get elected sheriff in Texas. As usual, follow the money.
Nueces – I certainly understand your sentiment – in your part of Texas, shady dealings are often ignored. Particularly further south, along the border, Democrats have been encouraging Mexican nationals to cross the border and vote in the local U.S. elections. Some have been charged, but not enough. This is also part of the area where the DOJ says it would be a hardship for local citizens to get a valid photo id to be used for voting.
However, I am sure that Congressman Ted Poe will learn about this article and will initiate an investigation. Border safety has been a big concern of his since he has been in congress. We need to make sure that the noise about this does not die down. And we also need to write and call every congressman from Texas as well as both Senators and get them to turn up the heat on the investigations!
That aint gonna happen with racist Holder as AG
When has a republican done anything about illegal aliens? The last president to do so was Eisenhower and that was 60 years ago.
Try to stay on topic sweetheart, the thread here is on “Fake Data”,not illegals.
Try again. ROnald Reagan signed the amnesty bill in 1986 so you are wrong! Next, please?
I don’t know why it should be such a surprise that Sheriff’s or Police Dept. will falsify their reports for grants, they do it everyday out on the street, they falsify to their hearts content when ever it suits them. It give them power. I know one attorney who called the law enforcement, nothing but thugs with a badge and a gun on their side, and I can tell you I believe it, i’ve seen it. They alter video cams from their cars, they erase, they make up false claims, and we should be surprised that they falsify these reports for “money”, well I believe it. What I can’t understand is why the taxpayers just let it pass and do nothing. There should be righteous indignation towards these law enforcement agencies including the DOJ the biggest falsifier of them all,ATF,DEA,FBI,CIA & DHS, they all do it.
mary
So, assuming you are right, what do we do about it?
The traditional solution is to create a new layer of supervision, inspection and reporting. But as far as I can see, that will just get corrupted like every other similar effort has been over the years. After all, that’s just a case of growing the government and we’ve all seen how inefficient that is. Government agencies supervising each other just seems to create turf wars and they both start lying to make it look like they’re doing what they’re supposed to do.
Phoenix Chief of Police Jack Harris resigned after the manipulating of crime statistics was revealed. April 2011
Why is this news..?
ATF, DEA, NSA, all the alphabet agencies falsify data to increase their budgets..its not political, its protecting their little fiefdoms and increasing their own pocketbooks.
If the accounts of retired agents in the these agencies were audited, there are million dollar offshore accounts, houses and condo’s in Costa Rica, Panama, Bahama’s, and Cancun in the retirement portfolio’s of people that never made enough to purchase legitimately.
Of course we will never audit their accounts, or those of agencies they worked at because it is a political scandal. Its far better to feign shock and surprise at small matters, and let the corruption continue from Republican administration to Democrat and again, as long as the pig’s trough continues to be filled.
And you probably add mileage to your taxes or more damage to an insurance claim or hide money from your spouse or steal from your kids piggy bank. Cmooooon!! Are you paranoid weirdos serious?!?!?!? The governments comin ta git me!! Seriously, and you hypocrites will try and vote in Mr. Master of money himself, Mitt Rob me. Wtf is wrong w/ guys?!?! Who cares about this crap right now? How about healthcare for our kids, unions to keep living wage up so we survive and fight illegal’s employment. Whats important here, nothing is if you want Robme to run his idiotic mouth and get us into a nuclear war. Wake up!!
Lib-tard,
the pot calling the kettle black?
you do not want Rombama? So you do want Obama?
How thick are you? I guarantee you have done nothing in real-time to push the country towards more freedom and less government – nor to support law enforcement working against criminals – nor to clean out corrupt law enforcement working for criminals – if you behave in accordance with your ignorant post.
A Magic 8 Ball would make a better POTUS than Obama.
As for “paranoia” … obviously you have never done anything in life save pound your pud in mom’s basement. B/c if you had – you’d know that you cannot open a lemonade stand without some Nosy Parker asking for your ID and to prove you to her that you asked permission before you wiped.
You’re either retard and you live under a rock or both.
I guess this is what mayor bloomberg was refering to when complaining about non mainstream media sources repirting stories that in the good old days would have been filtered by his “one editor” making decisions on what stories are run.
maybe its time more undercover videos come out in other cities where the mayor or police chief are reporting stories that simply can not be true
Duuuuuuh. Right wing media because the news stations are owned by large corporations like GE. Shouldnt you be pissed and fighting for truth laws in journalism and getting money out of politics? Hhhmmmm which guy would do that? soooooo worried about the Illegals clouding your priority decision making.
Lib-tard,
I take it back… you’re too stupid to live under a rock.
If you think GE’s Former ownership of NBC is “right-wing media” … geesh, talk about conspiracy theories.
Have you taken your meds?
Have you let your probie officer know that you didn’t make your counseling appointment with your court ordered psychologist?
treason
Well it looks like crime really does pay
One thing about Money is it has no loyalty to party or faith or ethics or morality. It points the finger of corruption equally.
Pretty easy to look good if the police never charge felonies.
The bottom line is that federal money corrupts every process it touches. That is why the federal gubmint needs to be restricted to those duties and powers outlined in the Constitution.
If the good folks of Hidalgo County want new sheriff’s cars, fancy computer centers, inflated numbers of deputies, then by golly let them pay for them in local taxes.
The problem is that protecting the border DOES fall within the jurisdiction of the federal government and they have decided to leave the border wide open. They even go so far as to sue states that try to obey their (the feds) own laws. They also charge private citizens in law enforcement with trumped up charges who do their jobs.
Having lived most of my life in Texas, I can tell you that this is par for Hidalgo County. One would be hard pressed to find a more corrupt place. Oh wait! I forgot about Chicago. Hidalgo County is just a smaller scale Chicago. Both places are political cesspools brimming with G-d knows what.
MAny questions are running through my mind
Can you cite some of those interesting thoughts? Or are we just supposed to be impressed that you are thinking?
Hopefully parts 2 & 3 will get into the problem that the Feds allowed the Cartels to take over the government and infiltrate the law enforcement of most border communities.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_21337966/ex-county-commissioner-willie-gandara-jr-pleads-guilty
“Bowing his head and looking grim, former El Paso County Commissioner Guillermo “Willie” Gandara Jr. pleaded guilty Friday to charges that he ran a marijuana-trafficking ring out of his ranch in Socorro.
Gandara, 37, entered the plea before U.S. District Judge Frank Montalvo. He pleaded guilty to two charges — conspiracy to distribute marijuana and establishment of manufacturing operations to distribute marijuana.
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In one of the videos, Gandara allegedly bragged about running a drug-trafficking organization with a pipeline from El Paso County to Oklahoma and Chicago. He also bragged about making $1,200 per pound of marijuana sold in Chicago, and typically running 150 pounds of the drug per trip.”
This is how the Mexican drug lords get and keep control of cities on their own side of the border — co-opting and corrupting the legitimate authorities.
I wonder which drug lords have Sheriff Treviño on their payroll?
I live in Hidalgo County, have since 1969 when I was a child. And I can tell you for a fact this area has changed dramatically over the last 20 years.
When we first moved down here this was a largely agricultural area interspersed with small towns. It was the citrus capital of the world, with oranges, lemons, and grapefruit the main exports, but there were also cotton and sugar cane fields. That all changed in 1983 when a major freeze wiped out the crops and pretty much destroyed the economy for a good 15 years. The peso devaluation didn’t help, as it destroyed the real estate market. There were 44,000 foreclosures in the first month alone, because the Mexican nationals could no longer afford their properties with their currency suddenly worth 1/5 of what it once was.
In the mid-1990s, the economy began to come back, not because of increased agricultural production but rather increased trade due to NAFTA. Maquiladoras began appearing in norther Mexico and major shopping malls and business centers in southern Texas. Lots of Mexican nationals shop at La Plaza Mall in McAllen, which boasts several of the No. 1 retailers in the country.
Also, Home Depot and Lowe’s began springing up, as there was a significant building boom. My family owns a rather large real estate corporation down here, so I know a little bit about this.
Wealthy Mexican nationals buy nice vacation homes in gated communities in McAllen, Weslaco and Mission. Why? Because it isn’t safe anymore in Mexico.
When I was a kid, we used to go to Mexico all the time, to go fishing on the beach, gigging for flounder and blue crab, or just to go party at the nightclubs in Reynosa. Then northern Mexico was laid back and safe. But not anymore. Today there are regular shootings on the streets. I don’t know anyone who travels to Mexico these days, but I know a lot of Mexicans who travel to Texas.
This is what happened. The drug cartels, then mostly out of South America, used the Carribean and Florida as their major routes. The US government began to crack down on these routes, as seen in shows like Miami Vice, so the cartels simply shifted their routes through Mexico and Texas. Thus, were the Mexican cartels born, and the violence has only escalated.
Don’t think it hasn’t spilled over across the border. In the last few years, there has been a shoot-out at a medical center in Pharr, an increase in kidnappings of prominent business leaders in McAllen and Mission. The entire Donna police force was arrested for aiding and abetting drug cartels. A tourist couple travelled too far on the wrong side of the Rio Grande and were shot up and killed. A drug cartel was caught trying to blow up Falcon Dam.
In my own business, I was taking pictures of a US Marshals drug seizure home in south Mission, about two miles from the river, and was threatened by guys with automatic assault rifles from the home across the street. At one repossessed home in south McAllen, I found a box containing forged passports for cartel members, which I had to turn over to and be interviewed by the FBI and ICE.
I happen to know Sheriff Trevino personally, and I don’t think he’s corrupt. I think he’s overwhelmed and probably scared. This isn’t about politics. It’s about trade. If US businesses knew how dangerous this area has become, none of them would relocate down here. So it’s more about maintaining economic development than anything else, although in my mind that’s a two-edged sword.
All of this is really about the abject failure of the federal government to control the border, and to a large extent the misguided, incompetent and corrupt War on Drugs. All in the name of trade. Go figure.
@ 12 Gawain’s Ghost: Thanks for a really informative contribution. I read it twice, since it recounted so many events that I had never seen reported before. Bottom line seemed to be that the Fed. Gov’t just isn’t protecting the southern border and the people of Hidalgo County and elsewhere are abandoned.
How about we bring our soldiers and marines home from Afghanistan. They could reinforce the border and no one will shoot them in the back as they do in Afghanistan.
Not having personal knowledge of the man I’ll defer to your assessment and apologize for my previous comment. Still, fear is one of the ways violent gangs succeed in corrupting officials. The best way to protect him is to watch him.
Gawain,
Ring of truth.
re; the Sheriff. I don’t know him, but I know many influential Dem’s …
And I am not impressed. When you think like a frightening teenage girl in a hostage situation, you are caught in Stockholm Syndrome. Your problem is not the bank robber with the gun at your head who just raped you… it’s the bank and the cops outside. Except that it isn’t. The Sheriff may or may not be corrupt; but many Dem’s are DELIBERATELY ignorant. They chose to BLAME our neighbors rather than their policies.
If I had a dollar… every time one of these dipsticks has said, “oh I know it’s not you but it’s [The Left Wing Bogeyman of the Week]” …
When those responsible fake the data; and put their Fantasy Ideology above their duties and the lives of their neighbors… they are corrupt, and they are part of the problem. If they have not taken a bribe, or broken a law, so what? They obstruct addressing the problem; and they serve a Political Machine which cares nothing for the lives it destroys.
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I can’t really get exercised over this; it’s epidemic. In my small city north of Boston the same is done. We have an opiate problem here, and the employees at the local coffee shop I frequent say the 2 heroin overdoses they had in their restrooms over the past 6 months both appeared in the police reports as “drunk patrons”. Our new and burgeoning “diverse” population has been under-reported in the annual census the city does every year, according to a friend at city hall.
All done in the service of real estate values.
I was a police officer in Texas from 1989 to 2001. Since then, I have been working corporate fraud in the private sector and I can say from experience in both jobs that fixing these numbers has been going on for many, many years. A good number of law enforcement agencies do this so they can justify the grant money and seek more, and then you have some people just engaging in self preservation. At some of the larger police departments (Dallas PD, Chicago PD, New York PD, etc), if you are a high ranking officer (Lt, Capt, Maj, etc) then your performance reviews are often dictated by your ability to lower crime in the area you are responsible for. These performance reviews usually result in pay raises, promotions, or lack there of.
Often times, there’s also not even a number to change. When I was working for the local Sheriff’s Office it used to really aggravate me when people would call the Sheriff’s Office asking for assistance since the local Police Department for where they lived just flat our refused to respond or complete an offense report. If you don’t take the report, then you don’t have to fix the number later and no one can be accused of whipping the stats. In my current job I deal a lot with victims of Identity Theft and I truly feel sorry for those living in the city of New York. NYPD absolutely refuses to do anything to assist the victims and I often feel like the people have a better chance at gaining an audience with the Pope than getting NYPD to even take a report for ID Theft.
Ok, time to get off my soap box and go catch some bad guys…..
David,
Keep your head down. And watch your back.
thanks for the info
There is a rather easy fix for securing the border along Mexico. Developers in California have been after the property that Camp Pendleton and Miramar sit upon for ages. Sell them to the highest bidders and rebuild the bases stretching aloing the borders. They would have military patrols, provide training for Afghanistan-like deployments and the patrolling is paid for by the military budget. Any incursions onto the bases, being a federal entity, would be felonies. If the government needed to acquire land currently in private hands for this they could exercise imminent domain, and this would actually be the proper use of the law unlike the Kelo vs. New London decision. If bases needed to be relocated from other areas in the US, or abroad, then do it. The defense of the border is a Federal Responsibility and should be accomplished using Federal troops. All men are potentially corruptible but I would trust military personnel before politicians every time.
Not bad, that land in CA would bring in a ton of money as well!
South Texas crooks. I am from South Texas. I would not be surprised to learn half of the deputies are members or on the payroll of the drug cartels in Hidalgo county.
Maynard, you “wouldn’t be surprised” means that there is not one, single bit of evidence to which you could testify in court. You are just running at your slanderous mouth, like the fool you are.
Speakeasy, it is “eminent domain”; not “imminent domain”
In point of fact, law enforcement agencies, all ovet the USA have, for many years now, falsified crime data. One example: Lets reduce the theft rate. Okay! We will no longer take reports of thefts of less than $2,000. That will reduce our theft rate by 83.45%. Whoopeee! Ain’t we great crimefighters?! And those six bodies found bound, gagged, tortured and shot in the head- obvious suicides. Take ‘em off the homicide stats. Great police work! Now we just cut the murder rate by 90% in our area. Do we get a bonus?
WT,
You libeled maynard… then went on to state facts which we are supposed to accept on your word without substantiation or citation. Brilliant!
Foot in mouth disease.
Does it occur to you that many posters cannot be specific? For all sorts of reasons? Probably not… right?
Help Texas
I think this problem is rampant and I am sure it happens everywhere. I have called the police myself on small incidents and their first response is usually to discourage you from pursuing the matter at all. The refrain is generally something to the effect of “there isn’t much we can do”, or “the prosecutor probably won’t want to take this on”.
The cops and the prosecutors want to keep their batting averages high and the crime rates low so they either talk you out of pressing charges or just manipulate the data. The legal and law enforcement community are basically typical government bureaucrats trying to keep their jobs. They have become a force for tyranny, not keeping the peace. They spend most of their time harassing law-abiding citizens over minor matters, at least in suburban and rural areas.
I used to really be a big supporter of law enforcement but over the years that has eroded. I have my guns and figure I am on my own. I avoid contact with the police at all costs, regardless if I may be a victim or not because no good ever comes of it. I think certain crimes (assault, robbery) are being under-reported in some cases but stupid crap like traffic tickets or code violations are rampant. It is all about collecting fines so they can meet their budgets. Public safety is secondary.
A couple of years ago DC had an increasing gang problem. The police chief decided to combat this by renaming the gangs as crews. I bet the Federal stats do not include “Crews.”
Michele Malkin has more: http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/01/dcs-anti-gang-strategy-just-rename-them/
DC only began reporting to the FBI Supplemental Homicide Report in 2009. Before that, they had incomplete data that hid most of the demographic data, rendering it useless. Nevertheless, they charged me for what they had 2000-2008. What a rip-off.
In 2010, DC reported just 1 homicide as juvenile gang related. That seems low.
This is the exact same system used in Chicago. If there are multiple shootings at a scene it is classified as a single shooting; shooting outside may be gang related, but if they happen inside they are “domestic”. Agg assault reduced to simple, and constant manipulating of stats. This is why the FBI will not use CPD stats.
The FBI uses Chicago data. Actually, it uses only Chicago and Rockford in the Supplemental Homicide reports. The rest of Illinois doesn’t follow the criteria laid out in the FBI Coding Handbook.
For example, in 2010, there were 18 multiple homicides reported by Chicago for inclusion in the SHR. There were 161 murders reported as juvenile gang related, out of 676 total for the entire country. Almost one-quarter of all juvie-gang murders came from Chicago. A total of 435 Chicago murders were included in the SHR.
On the other hand, that’s not proof that only these multiple and juvie-gang homicides happened. Only that Chicago reported these to the FBI. But without contradicting data, we have to run with it.
Send the money to sheriff Joe Arpiao and you will get your moneys worth in law enforcement.
My…..Don’t we feel SO safe with these LAWLESS enforcement officers on the job?
Wonder if Rick Perry could send the Rangers to take over the Sheriff’s Department there? I know some states allow for the State Police to do this but I’m not sure about Texas.
Could this be why all the local Law Enforcement Agencies such as state, County and city law enforcement agencies have received tax payer dollars to build a Par-Milita law enforcement with tax payer dollars through federal grants. If you look at some of the military equipment such as anti-personel carriers, armor cars, dones, blackhawk helicopters and battle dress uniforms. Oh and most of all combat tactical and sniper training. All these agencies are now prepared to strike against the American people. You can thank your congressional elected officials for funding all this in the name of drugs and terrorism. Guess what the Executive Branch of Government now has their own private civilian army. And don’t forget they now have Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, DOJ, Eric Holder, NDAA, Patorit Act, Executive Orders, FBI, CIA, and the Supreme Court backing these agencies. One more thing do you know who takes charge if martial law is ever implemented? That’s right Sister Napolitano the very one who has helped cover up America’s gun running program a long with the DEA and the ATF. People you now have a Police State provide by your tax dollars.
The real problem is that the FEDs do not track and report on crimes committed by foreign national, including illegal aliens, in the USA.
Additionally, “Hispanic” is an ethnicity, not a race, so when Hispanic illegal aliens (about 80% of illegal aliens are Hispanic) commit crimes in the USA they are reported as being committed by “white” or “black perpetrators depending on what the arresting officer reported in the National Incident Based Reporting System that most larger departments use or are switching over to. (I don’t know if Hidalgo County or McAllen use it.) The NIBRS reporting is the raw data for the UCR.
Most interesting, in the UCR, hate crimes can be committed specifically against “Hispanics” but Hispanics can not commit a hate crime.
In actual fact, NOBODY knows how many crimes illegal aliens and foreign nationals are committing in the USA.
NC Rep. Walt Jones has introduced a bill, The Illegal Alien Crime Reporting Act, HR3168,to correct the reporting oversight.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3168/show
however, it doesn’t have that much support. Maybe Congress doesn’t want the American people to know the extent of the collateral damage as a result of their irresponsibility?
While nobody really knows, nor does anybody really know if illegal aliens commit more or less crime on a per capita basis than legal immigrants or citizens, there are strong indications that illegal aliens are committing a LOT of crime and that they do commit it at higher rates.
To get an idea, see the crime chapters in THE DARK SIDE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
http://www.pfwagner.com/dark.html
To see some of the personal impacts of an encounter with an illegal alien, see Victims Of Illegal Alien Crime
http://www.fncic-voiacm.org/
If you want to be really ticked off, go to the Victims tab and sort by sex crimes to learn what is happening to women and children all across America. The poorly maintained site has about 500 victims documented. I personally have about 3,000 documented cases where an illegal alien has molested, raped, seriously injured, killed, or injured somebody in America. And that is just scratching the surface.
Re “But as a local news story that was published August 10, 2012, shows, many residents of Hidalgo County do not feel safe and do not believe that crime is down at all. They also do not believe that Sheriff Treviño’s office is concerned about them.”
So why do they elect him? No one to run against him I guess. So everyone is owned, one way or another. No wonder I don’t talk to anyone.
I remember clearly when obummer and uncle napalitano made those statements about the border being safer than ever and crime decreasing. The arrogance with which they spoke sickened me, especially since news reports were rife with story after story of cross border violence. They lied through their teeth, knowing that the stats had been manipulated to their liking. In essence telling the American people to not pay attention to what they see. Now it is exposed that napalitano is a close friends of one of the primary data manipulators, that was basically paid, with tax payer dollars, to enter false data in to the Uniform Crime Report. This is a most certainly a high crime worthy of impeachment. A conspiracy in which obummer willfully participated. The sheriff, napalitano, and obummer should be tried, convicted, and imprisoned.
First of all lib…the article is not about any of the crap you mentioned, it is about a Government Police Office (although local) is taking money from the Government. And it’s workers money and those who already have made theirs (whom you seem to hate). Falsifying documents at any level of Government is illegal and a crime, as if you care, since this is the most apocryphal Government in history. In my career I worked for the same company for 42 years. They moved me to Corpus Christi, from there I worked the bottom 32 of 52 counties in Texas, which meant all of the border counties. It was bad then only because there was no way to cover the border with the Agents there, they needed many, many more. Illegal’s would do anything to get their hands on a vehicle already registered, I was able to get away most of the time, but over the few years I was down there, three of my vehicles were stolen at gun point or beaten by mobs and/or tied up. In Laredo I was robbed, it was interrupted by other people who saw him, but he had my wallet. He was found and was being held in jail till the Border Patrol could pick him up. The following week when I was back down there, I asked the BP if they got the guy, he told me they hadn’t picked anyone up in the city, nothing had been reported, especially robbery by gun. I saw him entering a club (wearing the very same clothes and cap), and called BP directly to report I had seen the guy again, not in jail. Went into the club to watch him when the BP came in and arrested him. As it turned out, the Laredo Police had released him the same night he was arrested. He and his buddies are probably in our country now illegally, taking our Tax Payer money from Obama and the most apocryphal Government we have ever seen!