Top U.S. Islamic Group Calls for ‘Gun Control’
As reported by Neil Munro at the Daily Caller back in October, a group of representatives from many of the Obama administration’s favored Islamist groups met with Tom Perez, the head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.
During the meeting, the Muslim leaders, including those from ISNA, called for a redefinition of anti-discrimination laws to punish criticism of Islam:
Aziz’s advocacy was supported by a second Islamist advocate, Islamic Society of North America president Mohamed Magid. He argued that “teaching people that all Muslims are a threat to the country… is against the law and the Constitution.”
Magid asked Perez to change the federal government’s rules governing terror investigations, for more private meetings with top justice department officials, for the reeducation of FBI agents, and for more people to oppose criticism of Islam, which he labelled “religious bigotry and hate.”
According to the Daily Caller, when the meeting was finished Perez jumped on the stage to embrace Magid.
While teaching that all Muslims are a threat to the country would be wildly inaccurate, to say that it is against the law and the Constitution, meaning the First Amendment, and to use the protection of freedom of speech to bludgeon Magid’s perceived enemies demonstrates a profoundly perverse interpretation of the Constitution that should be rejected across the political spectrum.
Then again, there was a time when Magid himself and his organization were rejected.
Back in June 2007, during the first round of the Holy Land Foundation trial, then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales cancelled a Justice Department outreach event because of, according to Newsweek, Magid’s planned presence at the meeting as a representative of ISNA.
The federal prosecutors in the Holy Land Foundation case had just weeks before named ISNA as an unindicted co-conspirator. In a related court order by the federal judge hearing the case later unsealed, Judge Jorge Solis ruled that there was “ample evidence” that ISNA and other U.S. Islamic groups had acted in support of Hamas.
More recently, the Obama administration came under fire at the time of inaugural in January 2009 because one of the leaders at the National Prayer Service was then-ISNA president Ingrid Mattson.
And yet the Obama administration continues to work with ISNA, granting the organization the highest level of access.
In February, ISNA leaders were included in a closed door meeting with FBI Director Robert Mueller where they demanded a purge of the bureau’s counterterrorism training materials of anything or anyone they deemed “Islamophobic.”
One of the pieces of items entered into evidence during the Holy Land Foundation trial was a strategic memo of the Muslim Brotherhood in North America that identified what their goal was in this country:
The process of settlement is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process” with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet.
At the end of that memo is a list of those organizations that the Muslim Brotherhood leadership identified as “ours.” At the very top of the list was ISNA.
The Islamic Society of North America has a vision for America. And yet it isn’t one that treasures the protections on freedom recognized by the Constitution. Taking down the First and Second Amendments won’t be sufficient to realize ISNA’s Islamist vision. But for them, it’s a good start.
Yes, we should just all roll over and play dead so they can walk all over us. Not happening! They’re gettin’ mighty brazen these days, aren’t they, these lovers of Islam?
This is exactly what they want and yes they are becoming more brazen as are the many in the militant hate filled black community as they see their “anointed one” just as brazen by honoring all things muslim, dividing American citizens by race and class, and signing executive orders that directly contradict Congress and the Constitution……………and NO ONE is stopping him!
The dhimmitude laws under shari’a forbid infidels to be armed.
That’s what this is all about.
Exactly: Sharia makes illegal both criticism of Islam and private gun ownership. Talk about a recipe for dictatorship!
BTW, John McCain has proven himself to be the poster-child of dhimmitude. May he rot in political hell for siding with Islam and undermining American freedom.
Michele Bachmann deserves only the highest praise for treating seriously her oath to defend the Constitution. Should the GOP, Boehner et al, decide to strip her of her post on the House Intelligence Committee — as rumor has it — then two things will be true:
The GOP will have declared publicly its support for Sharia, and
The GOP will be dead as a political party in the USA.
From among conservatives throughout the land a Constitution party will arise to be a true opposition party to the leftist, Islamic party of death, the Democrat Party.
Notes:
1) Isn’t that tantamount to “the fox guarding the henhouse?” (To employ a hackneyed adage.)
2) Notice the ISNA article is using the “young” Martin photo!
3) Remember this on Nov. 6th!
Backdoor sharia law. Too bad we have too many apologists that don’t have the spine to immediately tell the muslims to get bent. If you love sharia so much then move the hell to a sharia-ruled country. The muslims simply don’t understand America. They’ll keep shoving their show till us Patriots get sick of it and remind them of the fact that they’re welcome to their religion but they can go eff themselves if they think the whole of America should bow to them.
WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO ARE INIMICAL TO OUR CULTURE TO IMMIGRATE HERE? KEEP THEM O.U.T.
Not just halting immigration of muslims, how about deporting muslims who never came here to be American. Let’s start with those imams and teachers in Madrassa schools where they teach young impressionable minds to hate everything about America.
Patrick, we both know (as do others) about the ‘ties that bind’ the red/green alliance.
I have many, many proofs of the above at my blog. In fact, I suspect the Islamic hydra may well run for deep cover (very soon), now that a ‘proof positive’ report has exposed their deep penetration into the US body politic, via the accusations hurling back and forth re McCain’s darling, Huma.
My top commentary penned today is ‘Huma Abedin, Deputy COS to Hillary Clinton…INEXTRICABLY Tied to the Muslim Brotherhood/Sisterhood (embedded report)….’, and it will give Islamists (and their leftist cheerleaders) much more to angst over, thus veering them away from calls to disarm Americans – see it here -www.adinakutnicki.com. Americans owe a debt of gratitude to Walid Shoebat, Bachmann and others.
Most importantly, please read the embedded report, pass it on to one and all!
Why shouldn’t the Islamic Saboteurs of North America not seize the opportunity to bash the constitution when our own president has publicly lamented the obstructions to dictatorship outlined therein?
We scoff at their audacity, but there’s the Brady Campaign, like many other liberal organizations, waiting with open arms to embrace the death cult because it temporarily furthers their myopic goals. Idiots!
Car bombs still good, I guess.
Hamas gets the lion’s share of its funds from Iran.
And it’s weapons: remember those 50 tons seized last year?
The M.B. also now rules both Gaza and Egypt.
So when are the feds going get off their butts?
FARA was instituted to prevent situations just such as these.
Or maybe B.O. is too busy looking for more enemies to whom he can surrender?
There must be one or two left, somewhere, perhaps.
Mr. Poole, thanks. Good stuff!
I doubt whether Second Amendment rights would be of importance to the Islamists. Their preferred weapon is plastic explosives.
THEY don’t mean to disarm – they want US disarmed.
We have a winner!
Wanna bet there’s a substantial percentage of mosques in the US with Holy Arsenals?
Given the way mosques are used as ammo dumps in Muslim countries, and the screeching over-sensitivity they have to “intrusions” on mosques…
All dhimmis in Muslim controlled countries have no right to have weapons. Otherwise, a revolution could arise and overthrow Islam. Once they are in charge, they aim to stay in control.
Carla,
Islam is a totalitarian ideology. Like all totalitarians (Nazis, Communists, Fascists) them prefer their enemies to be unarmed.
SOME Islamists support the slaying of gays and the subjugation of women. Some Islamic leaders of countries have encoded into their laws that the practice of Christianity and Judaism are forbidden. It seems the libruls in the U.S., who support and encourage these Islamists, overlook these little peccadilloes or consider them under the classification ‘any means to achieve an end’.
Taking an absurd position comes easily to a librul. Consider the absurdity of their position on voter ID.
You are assuming the liberals you talk about believe in Christianity or Judaism. They believe only in themselves and what makes them happy. They just don’t seem to understand that Islam would destroy many of their ways of life, as in homosexuality, doing drugs and such. I guess pedophilia (purchasing young boys from their fathers to dress up and entertain men acting as women) is fine as well as non romantic man on man sex since it is heavily practiced in parts Afghanistan. Oh wait, they hide that some over there too don’t they.
The progressive cult is in a state of denial. Guilt and shame are the tools used to control their ranks. I believe that as long as the rank and file progressive has food in their stomach, entertainment in the bedroom, and someone to resent, they will be contentfully happy to be unhappy. It’s a tough nut to crack.
Islam will NOT take over, the more freedoms they get those under age 35 want to step out of the 17th century & women want their freeedom
Duke5343 – While the under-35 might like freedom, their elders and other ‘true-believers’ will terrorize them into obeying Sharia. No one seems to want to face the fact that Islam is not a religion, but a totalitarian political ideology dressed in the garb of religion.
I don’t believe that. In fact, in both Europe and the United States it IS the younger generation that has become “radicalized.” Actually, islam IS inherently radical-period. It is the older generation that wasn’t particularly religious. The youth seem VERY dedicated to islam and reject their parents westernization.
Bingo!
lolly is battin’ a thousand!
That’s so far from the truth it’s not even wrong. In every Western civilisation where Moslem populations have grown significantly in the last few decades, it is the younger generation who are much, much more radical than their parents. This is the toxic legacy of multiculturalism which, instead of stamping out Shariah barbarism, has indulged it in the name of ‘inclusiveness’. Couple chauvinistic Islamic supremacism with a craven, diffident host culture and it is no wonder Moslems see themselves as the wolves and us as the sheep. There are no restraints imposed on the behaviour of Moslem youths except self-imposed. If they wanted to assimilate, to cast off their 8th century superstition then they could. But they do not. Instead they want to force the rest of us to live under the yoke. If we do not recognise this fact, then one of three things will happen: we will be enslaved as dhimmis; we will be killed wholesale; we will exterminate Islam and its practitioners.
The DC gun laws are among the stiffest in the nation. Has it stopped gun violence? No. Have gun recovery rates changed much? No.
http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,1239,q,561242,mpdcNav_GID,1523,mpdcNav,|.asp
OK but we can still fire our AK-47s into the air at weddings, right?
not even
i would fire that ak-47 if i were able to get that good back crack in the mornings
Not to worry, muzzies. When the time comes, my gun will be under ‘control’!
And while we’re at it lets call for BOMB control!!!
Suicide bombers control ….hmmm… maybe ????
“… a rifle behind every blade of grass.” ~ Yamamoto
^^THIS^^
I’m all for gun control. I define gun control as being able to seamlessly unholster your concealed weapon, taking aim at your target, accurately shooting on target, while having your weapon ready to accurately fire the next round despite recoil… practice makes perfect…
Ace, that is an excellent statement. Good job.
“While teaching that all Muslims are a threat to the country would be wildly inaccurate,…”
Really? I don’t see how one can be a faithful Muslim and a loyal American. A Muslim would have to forsake most of the “faith,” thus becoming an apostate, to live a life with the body of rights guaranteed to all Americans. Not only can a Muslim not exercise the rights of being an American and remain faithful, he cannot allow others to exercise those rights and remain faithful, and there he becomes a threat to the Country.
Because it is a political and governmental system moreso than a religion, I don’t think Islam should enjoy 1st Am. protections and the time will come that we must suppress its practice in the US or we will be at open war with them, and the time is long past, if there ever was such a time, that we ended immigration of Muslims.
If they find a way around the 2nd they sure as heck will find a way around the 1st wise guy.
Why are these mu slims allowed to settle in the USA? If we are such a hateful place why do they all want to flock to our shores?
For the record, I keep my guns clean and lubed for just this reason. The gun control nuts can have my gun when they pry it my cold dead fingers.
This would have prevented the Ft Hood massacre, and the needless defamation of Islam.
Next, they have a bridge for sale.
Deportation is the answer to these people. No negotiation. Get out. Period.
How ever did ISNA miss the golden opportunity to cite MAJ Nidal Hasan as their poster-jihadi, er, um, poster-child for universal gun control and confiscation?
What ever could have caused them to ignore such a noteworthy example of “guns gone wild” that just start shooting innocent people? Surely better gun control would have averted that carnage, right?
Why didn’t they point to the (dis)honorable Major?
Hmmm? Why might that be??
We’ll just never know, will we?
The followers of any religion are free to disarm themselves consistent with their religious beliefs. If the ISNA thinks it’s great for folks to be disarmed, fine, urge your co-regligionists to disarm themselves.
As for me, I’ll fulfill my faith’s moral duty to defend myself and those I am responsible for.
what we need is a good crusade.
So, the Brady Campaign has resorted to getting in bed with a terrorist support group? Not suprised.
I have guns
(lots of guns and many more on the way)
For personal protection, against human waste,
Human waste like muslims,
I would love to see some Muslim’s attempting to physically deprive American’s of their firearms.
It’s weird how the boogeyman is the guy who rid the world of a thief and a good candidate to be a future murderer.
The ISNA’s demands that we pervert the First and Second Amendments to make them more congenial to them are part of the problem. They seem unlikely soon to succeed unless we are so deranged as to give President Obama another term in office.
The persistence of a multicultural perspective may be an even worse threat. Many seem still to adhere to the happy notions expressed in the old Coca Cola commercial — “I’d like to buy the world a home and furnish it with love,” for example. If we don’t awaken and see — and repulse — the
ideanotion that we can somehow give the world freedom, justice, beauty, truth, peace and other treasures the values of which are beyond measure we seem likely to diminish our own. As I observed here,We should be killing these Islamist rather than listening to them.
Why hasn’t the House or Senate ever held hearings on the Muslim Brotherhood and their 50-year advancement in the United States?
If you want to view the progression of the Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S. over the past 50-years go to Citizens for National Security (CFNS) website and link to “Task Force Updates” “Muslim Brotherhood Full CFNS Report and read: Homegrown Jihad in the USA – Muslim Brotherhood’s Deliberate, Premeditated Plan Now Reaching Maturity©
Read online Stephen Coughlin thesis “TO OUR GREAT DETRIMENT”: IGNORING WHAT EXTREMISTS SAY ABOUT JIHAD. Next, why was Coughlin’s work ignored by DOD, along with the House and Senate Armed Service Committees to date?
This is what I fear about immigration from the Third World. Generally speaking, they will never make it as a group in America. If they could they’d already have such countries and not leave.
That leaves one recourse: agitating around political correctness and racism. Immigrant advocacy groups know exactly how to gain credibility: they simply lie. Groups which hate gays and Jews put up a photo of Trayvon Martin for effect and for no other reason
Voting by race is already a problem in America and it’ll only get worse. We already have an Asian, Black and Hispanic tri-caucus in Congress and that’ll only get worse. Diversity and multiculturalism is a failure in America. The groups coming to America are simply out of their league. Racial jockeying for positioning is their only recourse to bend law to their own benefit.
America will become a Tower of Babel, the greater good lying in the dust. End of story. Voting will be as simple as looking at skin.
The Brady Bunch, Bloomberg’s Mayors against Guns, and all the rest of the Touchy Feely groups along with Hillary and Big Sister Nappy who want to get into bed with the sharia loving Jihadists are going to be very surprised if their wishes are realized. They’ll be the people Samuel Adams was talking about when he penned, “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
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Yes, why don’t we just adopt the Koran as our Constitution. That’s what these Muslims want. Then we can be as backward, savage and intolerant as they are. I mean don’t you think that following the pedophile Mohammad and marrying 9 year old girls is a good idea?
It’s not be chance they contact Harry Reid for their legislation. They know he is as brain dead as Nancy Pelosi and can be manipulated.
Obama has given these haters of freedom all the boost they needed to try and oppress us. It’s not going to work. Obama supports the Muslim Brotherhood but try and find a MSM article on it.
All we need to do is get 2/3 majority of the American people to change the constitution. Until then, an Islamic takeover of America won’t be happening.
Maybe try Great Brittan, they don’t allow guns. But avoid Switzerland, every citizen there is issued a gun and educated in its use.
It’s no coincidence that Switzerland is the only European nation where Muslims aren’t running amok. On a per capita basis, they’re almost as heavily armed as we are. Not even the Nazis dared to invade them.
Last year the Swiss people, led by the SVP, defeated a gun-grab referendum. A coalition of women’s groups was supposedly responsible for forcing the vote, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Muslims were standing “behind the curtain” with money and other support.
The Islamist,together with the Muslim Obama,want to disarm Americans. Although, they can bare arms any time they want.
Well, actually, Muslim women can’t bare their arms.
The prime minister of Australia has it right. To anyone entering my country you will abide by my laws and learn my language. Otherwise leave. ISNA and CAIR among others want to do away with our Constitution and impose their own barbaric Sharia. This is the United States of America, founded on the US Constitution; if you don’t like iut and are not willing to abide by it go home.
The Constitution allows many freedoms but I don’t remember one in there that says we are forbidden to criticize. We here call it “Freedom of Expression” a term which I believe is missing in the Islamic Religion. We may not like what other’s say but censorship is not our way. Common sense, courtesy, respect, guide what we say. We are not afraid to speak out unlike the people of some countries.
Tell me again ISNA how is gun control working for you in Islamic countries? Oh that’s right you disarmed christians so your minion groups can go in there and wipe out the helpless masses. Its so very Socialist of you.
ANY Islamic group or individual calling for gun control really should start in the Gaza strip.
They [the mohommedists] call for gun control only as long as they are in the minority. If they become the majority watch them change their stance, they will say gun control is not needed, as they kill everything in their path.
Ahh yes, the masters of things that go Kaboom 24/7, justified by their war manual the Koran and Sharia law. Forever lying hipocrites.
Here lies Ali Amed Moodamnhammered may he rest in pieces.
Oh Sure. Another photo of the innocent little 12 year old boy before he bacame an F word throwing, gold toothed, gangsta dressing, thug carrying burgular tools.
And another “demand” from the muslims that we disarm ourselves and let them gather in gangs and behead us with semi-sharp knives while hollering “Alley Snackbar” for something like publishing a cartoon of their halucinatory, fit throwing “Poppet”.
All the hype from idiotic liberals and non-asimilating,eternally outraged muslims may have elicited some pity years ago, but with the information being exchanged about how evil you both are, it ain’t gonna happen.
Well, it looks like Obammer is getting into the act now, advocating banning civilian legal semi-automatic versions of the AK47.
Of course, the Colorado murderer used an AR15, but why let details get in the way of manipulating a good crisis?
Anyway, perhaps Congress can this as a cue to investigate further into that whole “Fast and Furious” debacle???
Travon Martin was a punk wanna-be gang member. If obama had a son he would be travon martin.
Someone told me that if a person converts to islam that he/she must take a muslim name. I am torn between Usama bin lyin’ and Al abba-dabba-doo. If the muslims want to make a forcible takeover of a part of the USA they ought to start in Moonshine country. (hog feed).