Consult your nearest statistician for the odds of that happening.
Upon examining this lopsided electoral matchup, one could conclude that Romney is not the strongest candidate the Republicans could nominate to go up against Obama.
Sure, you could say that, but you would be wrong.
The truth is that Romney, at this time, is actually the best candidate the Republicans could have to spearhead the ticket. The reasoning is that since Romney is perceived as “more moderate,” he has a better chance of converting independent voters in those nine toss-up states with 115 electoral votes than any of his former GOP rivals. (Do you seriously think Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, or Perry would be doing any better?)
Romney’s problem with the electoral map is NOT Mitt Romney. But the attitude and composition of the voting electorate is trending away from what the Republicans, as a brand, have traditionally stood for — less government, traditional values, taking charge of your own destiny, strong defense, God, family, and apple pie.
Does anyone seriously have a plan to turn around current social and cultural trends? Think about the 10 reasons at the beginning of this piece and it becomes clear that the Democrat voting mold is cast.
This pains me to write, but let’s just say the statistical chances of Romney winning 100 out of those 115 electoral votes prove to be too much and President Obama is re-elected.
What happens to Republicans as they try again for the White House in 2016? Here is a preview.
Base conservatives who were against Romney and wanted a “true conservative” at the top of the ticket in 2012 will blame Romney for the loss and the cycle of finding a “Reagan conservative” leader will begin again just like it did after McCain’s loss to Obama in 2008.
Meanwhile, traditional Republican states like North Carolina, Virginia, and Arizona have become fierce battlegrounds, joining the usual battlegrounds of Ohio and Florida. Thus, the path to 270 for ANY present and future Republican presidential nominee becomes narrower and narrower while the Democrats have an increasing number of options.
Looking back, based on how much the demographic composition of the nation had changed, there are studies (by Democrat think tanks) that conclude John Kerry in 2004 and even Michael Dukakis in 1988 would have won the White House if they faced the same electorate then that President Obama is facing this November. The Democrats know that today’s demographics are their destiny.
I wish I had better news to report, but based on the 10 reasons cited above I conclude that President George W. Bush and President Millard Fillmore might just have something in common.
Fillmore in 1850 was the last Whig Party president, and Bush re-elected in 2004 might be the last Republican Party president.
For the sake of this nation’s future, I hope I am wrong. However, when I look at all the young Democrat voters in my own family, I shake my head.
The thought of any of them voting for a Republican president this time or anytime in the future is as unlikely as any one of them quitting Facebook.
It’s the culture, stupid.
Shoot me now.
Don’t shoot yourself. Start shooting Leftists. Demographics are only a problem for Americans if we allow the Left to decide the weapons/time/place. Few Lefties know which end of a rifle the bullets come out of. Hey, we’re nice guys — let’s show ‘em!!!
Oh, wow. Death threats. Who would have thought?
Low democrat turnout in November is our only hope!
Gee, the gal who was screaming for Romney gets Romney, and now predicts doom. When Myra endorses Obama in October, it won’t be a surprise.
If you read what I actually wrote, I said Romney was our best candidate to defeat Obama. There are other reasons why he or any GOP candidate would have an uphill climb.
Oh, God, not this bullshit again.
Yeah, Rob, this BS again. That is why the GoP is called the stupid party.
What has to be done is to make the case that the growing Hispanic demographic really aligns with Freedom and Freedom of Association which is why their ancestors or they themselves came here in the first place.
We must counteract the Liberal Lies and fight back hard.
That is if there is an election allowed this coming fall.
Is your solution to termites to convince them to eat grass? No, you just call an exterminator.
Yes, same old BS, with a twist. Included is an early attempt to pass the buck and disclaim any responsibility for selecting the dismal Romney.
Romney is perceived as ‘more moderate’ … and is thus the guy best able to reach out to independents. What baloney! Depending on the poll, up to 40 per cent of likely voters now identify themselves as independent, certainly including me and many who post here; Romney’s ‘appeal’ is emphatically not part of our thinking. Neither is the appeal of GOP denizens like Boehner or Cantor.
As for the rise of the independent, well, it’s hard to think of a more savage indictment of the current two-party-plus-MSM rope-a-dope, so the writer, predictably enough, doesn’t go near it.
The good news: the system is so fragile, the problems facing our nation so great, that the status quo is unsustainable.
It’s just as likely that Obama is the last Democrat president.
Not at all BS.
Someone appears to have finally noticed that the tipping point zipped by us a long time ago.
Go Galt.
The question is good, but your reasoning leaves off the #1, which is the RINO elements of the party that refuse to fight any of the problems or even to stand up for themselves, the country-club smugness and lethargy that the public has never much liked, and may not like even as an alternative to Obambus.
Josh hit the nail on the head for what should be Reason #1 if this prediction is indeed correct. Republicans don’t stand up for themselves or their policies.
Most of the RCP averages go back too far. Let me see what they look like now that Romney is the presumptive nominee and not getting bashed by Gingrich and others every day. The next few months RCP averages will mean much more.
Channeling Pauline Kael—”I don’t know why Nixon won, none of my friends voted for him”—is so tired.
So is tying yourself to the railroad tracks.
GWB was a Republican?
Ya, GWB was a republican, but not a conservative republican. Not may of those left I guess.
The 2012 election will be between those who want Freedom and those who want Free Stuff. With 88 million Americans over 16 years old not participating in the job market, I wouldn’t be surprised if Free Stuff wins. This would continue a general trend in favor of more government-provided goodies, which George Bush did nothing to reverse. (See Medicare, Part D, for example.) Soon, our ability to borrow or just to pay the interest on our national debt will diminish, and the Free Stuff will run out. The Free Stuff voters will then be rioting in the streets, as in Greece. It will be appropriate if a Democrat president gets to deal with this problem. Based on his history, a guy like BHO would probably do an Assad, except that he’d used drones rather than small arms.
Excellent point, Bob…
Your reasoning is entirely based on the idea that an individual does not think with his/her own head but is first of all a member of a group (the class / gender/ race crap taught in today’s “universities”).
I am firmly convinced that We the people are not a class or a group, we are instead a nation of individuals. These individual have to decide if the Republic will march forward down the hill of a catastrophic debt and of social strife or if we want to go back to the American Dream.
I have confidence that other persons will be able to understand the same things that I have come to understand.
Seems to have worked for 60 years for the marxists. I give you OWS as prima facie evidence. How about 96% black vote for Zero. And the list goes on….
You need to get out for some fresh air.
Go out on the street and meet your fellow “citizens”: mouth-breathing gum-chewing spoiled muck-ups.
Your reasoning is entirely based on the idea that an individual does not think with his/her own head but is first of all a member of a group
That is the way people vote – as part of a group. There’s a reason why gerrymandering works. If people were really a bunch of “individuals” it could not work.
black women trend religious, and entrepeneurial- small-scale. there ought to be republicans willing to go to black churches, beauty parlors (big-time) and even black on-line portals, hat in hand, and ask to speak to them, in humility. they’ve got businesses. they haven’t been respected for having businesses. not even at car dealerships, where they’re willing to spend cash- real green- to buy cadillac escalades. these were the backbones of my husband’s business for a long time- disrespected black business owners.
don’t get hostile- barack obama had a good run. taxes are going to mess with business. point out that there’s a back-bench of black mayors working their way up.
and sexual and social re-arrangements- they’re trying to re-arrange into traditional structures. long-term relationships trend conservative, no matter what.
Go to black churches, in which it is taught that George W. Bush is the anti-Christ? The beliefs of Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are much more widespread in black churches than many whites realize. I can think of better ways for Republicans to spend their time.
That only works in churches where social religion is practiced. In churches where revealed religion is practiced, conservatives will not have a problem getting their message across.
Just look at the President’s pronouncement on gay marriage and what it’s done to the black community.
Want to split the black vote in 2012? Just let the President do it for ya.
Mia Love will do that for us in 8 years.I can’t wait!!!!
I’m not sure that in a race against the first black president that reaching out to black voters will be very effective.
However, I firmly think that Republicans in general should reach out to ALL voters. Maybe you’re not going to spend a lot of time and money trying to convince people who will never vote for you, but some outreach always needs to be done.
This is America, it is to be hoped that most pols aren’t like Obama, the great Divider. So your plan, as a pol, should benefit most people. We’re all in this together, etc.
Esp. at the state and local level this needs to be done.
Perhaps; perhaps not. We shall have to see what the actual results are in November. But in any case, it seems very likely that the country will split into two distinct set of states: those following a general republican position (Texas?) and those following a progressive liberal stance (California). Any elected democrat is going to have his or her hands full of increasingly hostile parties who simply cannot relate to each other. But one set will prosper while the other will not (I leave it to you to decide which is which). Cival war anyone? Or perhaps a few mega strikes using terrorist tactics to strike fear and disorder may straigten people’s thinking. Sometimes facing death clarifies the mind. Liberals may believe that history is over, but that is a matter of belief not verified fact.
The idea of America splitting into two nations is not so crazy. Read “After America” by Mark Steyn and “Suicide of a Superpower” by Pat Buchanan. Both authors discuss this in their books. The liberals can have the gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgenders, feminists, Blacks, Muslims, union members, people on unemployment, illegal aliens, the occupy Wall Street crowd, all college graduates who can’t find a job, all people on the government dole, environmentalists, socialists, American communists, university professors and most other teachers, high school dropouts, a large share of members of AARP. Did I forget anyone? This group sounds like the current democratic base.
The conservatives will take the rest of the people; you know, the ones who word hard and believe in excellence, achievement, and success. We’ll take all the religious people, the people who believe in morality and virtue, the people who use common sense and reason to make decisions, the Tea Partiers, the Chamber of Commerce members, the CEOs, the entrepeneurs and innovators. This sounds like the population who lived around 1776.
It’s easy to figure out which group would be wildly successful and which group would wallow in poverty and misery.
This has been coming since I cast my first vote in a presidential election in ’68. No matter how I voted, the Repubs have been pulled ever leftward. If we do not win in ’12, we will never win again. Patriots will not submit. At the very least, patriots will coalesce in pockets of the South and Rocky Mountain West and isolate themselves as much as possible from Federal authority.
Beginning now, the GOP is going to have to work harder to bring more Hispanic voters in particular under the tent. The Romney campaign needs to pull out all the stops. A new Dream Act proposal won’t be enough. Romney needs to demonstrate that he is not against Hispanic/Latino immigration, just illegal immigration. He can do that by declaring that as president he will INCREASE legal immigration opportunities from Latin America and especially Mexico (where his family has “roots”). The fact that reverse migration from the US to Mexico has increased quite a bit during the recession will give him some leverage with the base for such a policy. Furthermore, illegals who self-identify and volunteer to return to their home countries could be given some type of preference to return legally.
Social policy is another area where if artfully approached, the GOP with the help of the churches should be able to make inroads among Latinos. They are no more in favor of gay marriage than church-going African-Americans.
Also, the case needs to made repeatedly that the Obama Administration, and the top dog(eater) himself, are not just pro-abortion, but pro-EXTREME abortion, i.e., advocating partial birth and allowing babies born during botched abortions to die. The administration is peppered with senior staff who cut their teeth (sharpened their knives) in the abortion advocacy “community.” The message needs to be driven home, not just to Latino voters but to Christians generally that supporting such policies in the voting booth or otherwise is just plain evil.
And what about the nearly 25mil illegals already here? How does increasing legal immigration from Mexico, CA and SA solve that problem?
We have to divide the country while it is still possible. If we wait any longer, we could end up compelled to live in a socialist state. As crazy as this may sound, it is doable and–if we act now–can be done peacefully and amicably. Later on, we’ll probably have to fight for it.
I don’t want to continue to live as the hated race and sex in my own country, blamed for all the country’s problems from black crime to a collapsing economy. I want to be able to live in a world where I can turn on the news and see real independent thought, without the overt socialist/racist/sexist overtones. Or even a television show that actually affirms my values. This country now is not the world I want for myself or my son. We are moving further and further from the enlightenment and western culture and closer to mob rule.
All the positives of that culture are not only under attack by the propagandists, but are losing the battle. Think about the basic lessons that were taught to you by our parents and how these very lessons are what have become the enemies of the state. And worse, half our population seems to agree–and that half is growing. We have a right to determine our own future and–arguably–its even guaranteed in our own constitution.
So how do we physically divide the country while uprooting as few people as possible? Here’s what I suggest, but I am certainly willing to hear other ideas. And please chime in.
The Northeast and Southwest are irretrievably lost to the left. This creates a problem of maintaining contiguous boarders. The solution is to recognize the differences in libertarian conservatives and social conservatives and give them each their intellectual homelands. The social conservatives get the Southeast, the libertarian conservatives the Northwest. This allows for a liberal corridor connecting the Northeast to the Southwest while preempting any future conflict between conservatives. This does not mean conservative factions need to face off, but can continue to work closely together.
Yes, I know that this will create hardship for many, and yes I understand that we are ideologically intertwined, and this wouldn’t even be suggested if it weren’t that our culture is at an existential precipice. The continued existence of western culture is dead or dying in its European homeland. This decision is made only by understanding the gravity of the situation.
And I urge you all to really think about the benefits, which are many.
Once again, there is no need for conflict just an agreement between parties to go their own separate ways by mutually agreed upon boarders, much as did the former Czechoslovakia with their Velvet Revolution.
We are a people who can adapt, move on and optimistically create new worlds. Its what we do. Let’s show them just how mobile we can be.
I hate to tell you, but Washington and Oregon are liberal strongholds.
Wahington State was a state that tended conservative, at least until the early ’80s.
Every year the blood sucking left (Democrats, after 1972) tries to enact an income tax, and every year that fails.
What happened to Washington (and Oregon) is the Microsoft Effect, of what we sometimes call Californication. Yep. The Califirnians went to Washington (mostly to the Sound in and around Seattle) and brought their failed politics with them. Oh, and their environmentalist state religion, which killed entire industries based on farming, logging, mining….
There is one big city in both states that is now occupied by the willing tools of the enemies of America. I refuse to put that condition in any other terms.
When we have grown a government so oppressive and so opposed to individual human liberty that it becomes the evil that was the government of George III, then Americans may very well rise to strike it down with force of arms.
The last time we revolted against that kind of undeniable tyranny, we won our freedom. And when we had won, we made those that supported the British Crown. during the Revolution, leave our shores and never come back.
Agreed, but when you finally get around to the much needed house cleaning, don’t send them here like the last time.
We are full up and don’t need anymore of them.
The problem with your realistic divisions of the current U.S., which I accept if offered in good faith, is that these formalized cleavages will create problems in fighting our common enemy, Islam.
We’ll then need some active diplomacy and a lot of asset sharing to fight in a coordinated manner. Not like the U.N., you’d have to agree. Granted, we’d have the advantage of coming from a one unified whole; but look at Europe now with its faux “commonalities” and currency.
Even if we can avoid 1860 all over again, we still have to create a unified front against Islam. That will be easier if we don’t splinter country any further.
“will create problems in fighting our common enemy, Islam…”
I differ…since they are the ones who have accused the rest of us of “Islamophobia”…let them live with the consequences of their insanity. Let the Hollywood starlets and intelligentsia adapt to their convictions. Let them live under sharia, burkas and restraints that they think are “acceptable”. Let them embrace the lies they’ve sowed.
The liberals don’t want to fight Islam. Liberals and Muslims have the same goal: the destruction of Western Civilization. The liberals are using Muslims to help them achieve that goal.
Please read Diana West’s article of May 4, “Invasion of the Body Snatchers,” on townhall.com.
http://townhall.com/columnists/dianawest/2012/05/04/invasion_of_the_body_snatchers
Joint Chiefs chairman, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, issued a memo recently to all military personnel. “In this memo, our highest-ranking military officer orders the entire United States military to purge its educational and training classes, files and rosters of instructors to ensure that no members of the U.S. military are ever again instructed in the basic principles of Islamic jihad. The body snatchers call such allegedly offending educational material “anti-Islam,” but it covers study of Islamic-style war. Given the unchecked threat of such war, both violent and covert, to spread Shariah (Islamic law) until a new global caliphate exists, the question is whether eliminating instruction in the enemy threat doctrine is something that a “normal” Joint Chiefs chairman would do. The answer is no. “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” strikes again.”
This memo had to be written by order of the Obama administration.
This is our only hope. We cannot stay divided like we are now and survive.
SW lost to liberals? What world do you live in? SW consists of Texas-damn sure not a lib stronghold, AZ-Republican Governor & more important Sheriff’s like Babeau & Joe, NM-Republican Gov Susan martinez. So please explain how you in your brilliance have reached the conclusion the SW is liberal?
A rebuttal:
1. Rapidly changing demographic trends that favor the Democrat party.
Other trends, such as Mormon church growing 50% in 10 years show other signs that things are not so bleak. People who have children tend to believe in a future that will be better than the past. That is fundamentally a conservative value. The future belongs to those who show up and those having babies are those who are going to be showing up.
2. An education system controlled by liberals that churns out young liberals.
As a father of two high school age kids, I can tell you that the kids today have absolutely nothing but contempt for the system that has stolen their future. You have nothing to worry about here. Nothing makes a conservative faster than the experience of living in liberalism and the school system today is churning out thousands of kids who absolutely hate the liberal system. As a person who came into the political world in 1979, I can tell you that nothing made me a conservative more than the example of executive leadership provided by Jimmy Carter and I never thought I would say this, but I finally have seen someone in Executive Power that’s far worse at his job than even Jimmy Cater. Jimmy Carter was a paragon of competency by comparison to the current President.
3. A population with an ever increasing dependence on government in the form of entitlements and subsidies.
All of which are inadequate and require the user of such programs to be degraded and fed into systems that make a day at the DMV seem like fun. Again, if you want to see people who hate the government, go visit the post office or the DMV or the IRS.
4. A mainstream media that is overwhelmingly comprised of journalists who subtly and not so subtly spin the news in support of Democrats and liberal causes.
And they have never looked more ridiculous and without merit as a result. What used to be a respected calling now looks like World Wide Wrestling without the makeup. This would be a problem if the average person wasn’t already self selecting their own news in a way that was impossible even 10 years ago. rating up in liberal media land? or lower? More evidence? The Zimmerman case. The days of “journalism”, he would never have stood a chance. They would have had him convicted and thrown under the jail.
5. The influence of Hollywood which makes it cool to be a liberal Democrat.
If this was true, Smoking would be increasing every year since every movie uses cigarettes as a character prop. And I would also submit the case that Hollywood tried like crazy to make anti-war movies that make money and yet, fails every time.
6. The growing power concentrated in local, state, and federal government worker unions whose members actively campaign against Republicans on the taxpayer dime. (See WI Governor Walker’s upcoming recall election for an active example of this.)
A recall election that his opposition is not even campaigning against his rebuke of Public Sector unions since its so obviously working to improve the State. And watch Scott Walker win that election too. I also reject the idea that Public Sector Unions are growing. Public Sector Unions are fighting for their lives in 40 of 50 states. The battle isnt over, but its going our way if for no other reason than the simple tyranny of budgetary math. Today people do not look at “Government” as their friend and helper as they did in the 1930′s. Now they look at Government as the enemy and the thing that is getting in their way.
7. A culture where non-traditional social and sexual behavior has become mainstream.
uhhhh. I dont know what you mean here. What does sex or sexuality have to do with the republican party and conservatism, except that we dont think that its any of your business one way or another. Move along…
8. A hatred for Republicans in general and a tendency to blame the party for “the mess we’ve inherited.”
I know! In 1984 that’s all I heard! “EVERYONE HATES REAGAN”!!!. I think he won 49 of 50 states that year. Everyone hates the Yankees too but that’s because they win most of the time. Look at it this way, everyone loves a loser. And by the way, keep repeating this meme “The Tea Party is all washed up” because that’s the same sort of message. Senator Lugar and a few others might have something to say in that regard.
9. A Republican party that is growing increasingly white, old, southern and male, while alienating majorities of younger voters, Hispanics, African Americans, gays, teachers, young professionals, atheists, unmarried women and even suburban married women.
Its also increasingly made up of ex military and technical business folk. Why? Because people tend to get more conservative the older they get( the school of experience has new graduates every day). Take a look around, the population is getting older and that means that things are getting better, not worse for the Republicans. Proof? Look at what the Tea Party has been able to do in 2010. You think that was a Democrat group? If your theory were right, that would never have happened and the youth sponsored OWS movement would really mean something. Frankly, I cant think of any other thing in recent memory that has caused more people to come over to the Republican side than the whole OWS movement.
10. The internet and the growing social media phenomenon that strongly tilts in favor of Democrats.
Yes, this is exactly what led to the election of John Kerry and Howard Dean, kids on the internet because you know once they get behind you, look out!
The internet is also a force that proven repeatedly to vex the statist desires of the left. We have proved repeatedly we can give as good as we get. Shall we go back over the long history of things that we on the right have dismantled and turned against the left with the internet? AP Photoshopping in Lebanon? Dan Rather and George Bush? Van Jones? And this latest gift from internet Gods, the “Julia” campaign which is so hokey that everyone on both sides is laughing at it. If there was ever a media that allowed a firehose of mockery to be turned on the left, its the internet.
Ok? so dont go all wobbly. We are never going to be cool and popular, but were going to do fine. Remember that pessimism is not leadership. And don’t forget, in the end, we have the facts and the truth on our side.
Stand Fast. …_
Well done, sir.
Good arguments, Mr. Martin, although re item #7, you missed Myra’s valid points. Thanks to Hollywood, the Pill, legalized abortion and other negative influences, traditional moral and sexual values have diminished in major segments of society. And frankly the spoiled baby boomer generation has done a lousy job of inculcating values in their kids.
And speaking of Hollywood, your response to #5 is a little puzzling, ie. as regards smoking. That prop has diminished greatly over the years. Conservatives AND liberals can agree that that foul habit remains destructive….
Extremely well said. I agree with each point and couldn’t make the case better. It’s true that as conservatives we shouldn’t be foolishly optimistic, but we need not be pessimistic either. People often make the logical mistake of looking at trends and believing that they will continue indefinitely to the benefit of one party, sometimes even believing that one party will become so powerful that the other party shouldn’t even bother running candidates. But trends change, and even when they don’t, parties adapt. Sometimes, this means accepting social or economic changes that we wouldn’t consider ideal, but even so, parties will change with the times to stay competitive. And even we as individuals adjust our thinking with the times. How many conservatives have the exact same positions and priorities as they did ten years ago? We tend to believe our positions are right at the current time and often forget that we viewed the world somewhat differently in the past, but we also thought our positions were correct then as well. What’s more, if a party has control for some period of time and disappoints the average voter, as inevitably happens, people will seek out the alternative. To accept that the GOP is forever doomed based on these ten reasons, we have to basically accept not just that the Democratic party will gain dominance over the GOP in both executive and congressional elections (quite plausible for a time) but that they will govern so well that people won’t become dissatisfied enough to throw them out (not plausible). Look at how quickly people became dissatisfied with Democrats from 2006 to 2010. The same voters that were so eager to dump Republicans in 2006 and vote for hope-and-change in 2008 were eager to put the brakes on Obama in 2010. Voters, especially swing voters, are pragmatic. (I say this as someone who wishes swing voters would be more ideologically conservative rather than purely pragmatic.) Sure, demographic changes may favor one party for a time, but over time, people will vote out what doesn’t work. And if we believe that big government liberalism doesn’t work, especially in the long run, it makes total sense to believe that people will eventually change their mind about it and vote it out. This may not be true in specific states and especially cities, where people can move away if they hate how the party in power does things, but Americans are generally not going to move out of the country, so that discontented base of the party out of power will remain, patiently waiting for swing voters to agree that the party in power needs to go.
14. Frank Martin
A rebuttal:
1. ‘Rapidly changing demographic trends that favor the Democrat party.’
“Other trends, such as Mormon church growing 50% in 10 years show other signs that things are not so bleak. People who have children tend to believe in a future that will be better than the past. That is fundamentally a conservative value. The future belongs to those who show up and those having babies are those who are going to be showing up.”
The demographics are changing with the massive influx of illegal aliens that will shift the voting even more over to the left. Ergo why the left supports illegal immigration and open voting. So as more people become entitlement dependent, the nation will eventually collapse.
2. A’n education system controlled by liberals that churns out young liberals.’
“As a father of two high school age kids, I can tell you that the kids today have absolutely nothing but contempt for the system that has stolen their future. You have nothing to worry about here. Nothing makes a conservative faster than the experience of living in liberalism and the school system today is churning out thousands of kids who absolutely hate the liberal system. As a person who came into the political world in 1979, I can tell you that nothing made me a conservative more than the example of executive leadership provided by Jimmy Carter and I never thought I would say this, but I finally have seen someone in Executive Power that’s far worse at his job than even Jimmy Cater. Jimmy Carter was a paragon of competency by comparison to the current President.”
You are kidding of course? Using your family as the one exception is your rebuttal to what everyone in the universe knows is a bastion of socialist indoctrination is pathetic.
3. ‘A population with an ever increasing dependence on government in the form of entitlements and subsidies.’
“All of which are inadequate and require the user of such programs to be degraded and fed into systems that make a day at the DMV seem like fun. Again, if you want to see people who hate the government, go visit the post office or the DMV or the IRS.”
Really? Even if the white progs gave one iota of concern over the self esteem of blacks and other minorities they would STILL push for their dependency on government. And do you really think blacks, who have devolved into a tribal culture, care about their self esteem?
4. ‘A mainstream media that is overwhelmingly comprised of journalists who subtly and not so subtly spin the news in support of Democrats and liberal causes.’
“And they have never looked more ridiculous and without merit as a result. What used to be a respected calling now looks like World Wide Wrestling without the makeup. This would be a problem if the average person wasn’t already self selecting their own news in a way that was impossible even 10 years ago. rating up in liberal media land? or lower? More evidence? The Zimmerman case. The days of “journalism”, he would never have stood a chance. They would have had him convicted and thrown under the jail.”
I have no idea of where you are going here in your defense of the marxist sychophants in the msm, but if people were as informed as you think, then either they want marxism or they are plainly stupid.
5. ‘The influence of Hollywood which makes it cool to be a liberal Democrat.’
“If this was true, Smoking would be increasing every year since every movie uses cigarettes as a character prop. And I would also submit the case that Hollywood tried like crazy to make anti-war movies that make money and yet, fails every time.”
Let’s see Clooney is raising $12mil for Zero; the debasement of our culture began with TV and movies, on purpose. For you to even argue that the degradation of our culture has not been effected by Hollyweird is, on its face, a ridiculous comment.
6. ‘The growing power concentrated in local, state, and federal government worker unions whose members actively campaign against Republicans on the taxpayer dime. (See WI Governor Walker’s upcoming recall election for an active example of this.)’
“A recall election that his opposition is not even campaigning against his rebuke of Public Sector unions since its so obviously working to improve the State. And watch Scott Walker win that election too. I also reject the idea that Public Sector Unions are growing. Public Sector Unions are fighting for their lives in 40 of 50 states. The battle isnt over, but its going our way if for no other reason than the simple tyranny of budgetary math. Today people do not look at “Government” as their friend and helper as they did in the 1930′s. Now they look at Government as the enemy and the thing that is getting in their way.”
The fact that since Walker took over and has brought on a great turn around, and yet citizens are either too stupid or uninformed enough to ask for a recall is like taking an alcoholic in AA to a liquor store and giving him $100 that must be spent there. In the first it doesn’t make sense and in the second it doesn’t make sense. PSU are very powerful otherwise how could they for the last nearly 60 years gotten away with what they have been which is essentially holding tax paying citizens hostage.
7. ‘A culture where non-traditional social and sexual behavior has become mainstream.’
“uhhhh. I dont know what you mean here. What does sex or sexuality have to do with the republican party and conservatism, except that we dont think that its any of your business one way or another. Move along…”
Well if you don’t think Hollyweird has not influence on the public of course this is you default answer. Once you begin with the debasement of cultural values and traditions, the rest is easy for the take over.
8. ‘A hatred for Republicans in general and a tendency to blame the party for “the mess we’ve inherited.”’
“I know! In 1984 that’s all I heard! “EVERYONE HATES REAGAN”!!!. I think he won 49 of 50 states that year. Everyone hates the Yankees too but that’s because they win most of the time. Look at it this way, everyone loves a loser. And by the way, keep repeating this meme “The Tea Party is all washed up” because that’s the same sort of message. Senator Lugar and a few others might have something to say in that regard.”
I guess you haven’t been listening to your savior, Zero…
9. ‘A Republican party that is growing increasingly white, old, southern and male, while alienating majorities of younger voters, Hispanics, African Americans, gays, teachers, young professionals, atheists, unmarried women and even suburban married women.’
“Its also increasingly made up of ex military and technical business folk. Why? Because people tend to get more conservative the older they get( the school of experience has new graduates every day). Take a look around, the population is getting older and that means that things are getting better, not worse for the Republicans. Proof? Look at what the Tea Party has been able to do in 2010. You think that was a Democrat group? If your theory were right, that would never have happened and the youth sponsored OWS movement would really mean something. Frankly, I cant think of any other thing in recent memory that has caused more people to come over to the Republican side than the whole OWS movement.”
The original comment is so wacked that it needs no rebuttal. But older people do not get conservative. They vote based on medicare and SS. So which ever party continues to promise them their benefits will get their vote. They even have a built in lobby called AARP.
10. ‘The internet and the growing social media phenomenon that strongly tilts in favor of Democrats.’
“Yes, this is exactly what led to the election of John Kerry and Howard Dean, kids on the internet because you know once they get behind you, look out!
The internet is also a force that proven repeatedly to vex the statist desires of the left. We have proved repeatedly we can give as good as we get. Shall we go back over the long history of things that we on the right have dismantled and turned against the left with the internet? AP Photoshopping in Lebanon? Dan Rather and George Bush? Van Jones? And this latest gift from internet Gods, the “Julia” campaign which is so hokey that everyone on both sides is laughing at it. If there was ever a media that allowed a firehose of mockery to be turned on the left, its the internet.”
Either you are paid by google, huffpo or mm or you are just a wack job, but to think the net is politicall balanced is ludicrious. I guess you think that because the WSJ tilts right that the msm is balanced. Good grief.
‘Ok? so dont go all wobbly. We are never going to be cool and popular, but were going to do fine. Remember that pessimism is not leadership. And don’t forget, in the end, we have the facts and the truth on our side.
Stand Fast. …_”
Go tell your managers you need a refresher course in taqiyya.
Sorry, blotto, your attempt at a rebuttal falls flat. Round goes to Frank.
“…everyone loves a loser.”
Ha! Put that on a bumper sticker.
“Obama/Biden 2012: Everyone Loves a Loser”
“As a person who came into the political world in 1979, I can tell you that nothing made me a conservative more than the example of executive leadership provided by Jimmy Carter and I never thought I would say this, but I finally have seen someone in Executive Power that’s far worse at his job than even Jimmy Cater. Jimmy Carter was a paragon of competency by comparison to the current President.”
Amen on that! Mirrors my own experience totally. And yes, even Carter was better.
Agree with others that treating people as a group rather than individuals is rather shallow. Look at the Catholic vote in the country. Despite the “label,” they don’t actually all vote as one monolithic block.
Second, your view of national, state, and local parties is rather static. Why have Republicans not reached out to Hispanics, African Americans, or other groups? Answer: because the GOP hasn’t needed them in the past to win (and in the example of Reagan, or 1994, hasn’t need them to win big). Rest assured, if Republicans start finding themselves starting to lose elections and lose them by huge margins, Republicans will change their approach to strategy, outreach, and issues until they start winning again. This is not to say that the GOP will become a “moderate-liberal” party like the Tory party in Britain, there are still plenty of beliefs Americans strongly share with the Republican party of today. But,it will change in areas like “Hispanic” outreach and such. Have no worries, the GOP isn’t going to go the way of the Federalist party.
“Agree with others that treating people as a group rather than individuals is rather shallow. Look at the Catholic vote in the country. Despite the “label,” they don’t actually all vote as one monolithic block.
Second, your view of national, state, and local parties is rather static. Why have Republicans not reached out to Hispanics, African Americans, or other groups? Answer: because the GOP hasn’t needed them in the past to win (and in the example of Reagan, or 1994, hasn’t need them to win big). Rest assured, if Republicans start finding themselves starting to lose elections and lose them by huge margins, Republicans will change their approach to strategy, outreach, and issues until they start winning again. This is not to say that the GOP will become a “moderate-liberal” party like the Tory party in Britain, there are still plenty of beliefs Americans strongly share with the Republican party of today. But,it will change in areas like “Hispanic” outreach and such. Have no worries, the GOP isn’t going to go the way of the Federalist party.”
Where are you people coming from? This is classic marxism/Alinsky. Divide the nation into groups i.e. African-Americans, Hispanic… you get the picture, and then promise them government largesse for their support. It has worked perfectly.
The answer as to why we have not reached out to these groups is because they vote for the party who promises them government handouts and makes them feel white Americans who made this nation what is was are the villians and caused their poverty and dispair. How do you compete with a party who uses taxpayer money to buy votes? Do you think we should barter with these groups or out bid the marxists for votes? Please tell me how we get people who are dependent upon a marxist party to vote for us?
You tell the Hispanics that the Democrats want to put priests in jail for refusing to assent to contraception. You tell them that Democrats have prevented chaplains from reading a letter from their bishop to their congregations because it was critical of the government.
It’s called separation of church and state.
“Is it possible that George W. Bush could be the last Republican president ever, or at least for the foreseeable future?”
For this to be true, we have to assume that he was a Republican. Was he?
The GOP may be doomed but the Democrat model will not fare much better. Math will see to that. The tipping point will be when there are more suckers than there teats. We are close to that now. If Obamacare stands, the cliff will be that much closer. What comes after both parties melt down? Watch Europe for a possible answer.
#4 Josh has it right, although he understates matters. I find it interesting that Ms. Adams spent the entire primary season attacking anyone to the Right of Romney “the Republican Lightworker” [who would save us all]; and declaring us vrag naroda and klassovyi vrag. If we would not kneel, she was eager to cast us out. And then was puzzled as to why that did not bring us stampeding in mobs to cheer the Willard.
Most conservatives have steeled themselves conditionally to vote for Romney [after all, there is always the open question of just what incredibly stupid thing he will do to stab us in the back at any given moment during the campaign]; and now that it seems that he has the nomination, we find that she believes that Romney is doomed. And it will be the evil, nasty Conservatives who make recovery impossible because they want a Conservative candidate.
That leads me to two points. What is Ms. Adams real intention? Her writings make as much sense if you assume that her goal all along is to bring about the Democrat version of the Thousand Year Reich. Just wondering, since her advice comes down to not opposing the Democrats at any point except to try to claim control of the trough.
The second point, surprisingly, is agreement on her postulate that George W. Bush may be the last “Republican” president. Just not in the sense that she intends, perhaps.
If Buraq Hussein wins, electoral politics will not be applicable any more. That does not mean that politics will end; but rather in the Clausewitzian sense, “Der Krieg ist eine bloße Fortsetzung der Politik mit anderen Mitteln”. The economic and social collapse that will result from an unrestrained Left will at best discredit the Institutional Republicans forever. And if we manage to somehow recover to the point where elections hold sway again; having been part of the Institutionals who collaborated or refused to fight will not be a resumé enhancer.
Looking down the road to 2016 or 2020 for another electoral chance if we lose in 2012 is as pointless as waiting for Ed McMahon to deliver that sweepstakes check to prevent foreclosure of your mortgage.
If Romney wins, it just means that the end may be more drawn out; and that it may take place on his watch so he can get the blame. Because he will not take any Conservative steps ["severe" or otherwise] that would be opposed by the Left. And the Enemy may well feel that it is safe for them to take to the streets and abandon electoral means anyway, since they will not fear counter-action.
She wanted Romney. She has apparently won. Now she has to deal with the consequences. One always has freedom of choice. One never has freedom from consequences.
Subotai Bahadur
Why is everyone assuming there will be another election in 2016? Do any of you think our republic can withstand four more years of pre-marxism?
Because we refuse to be controlled by fear. If we can’t preserve the Republic, then we deserve to lose it, and we will not consent to be ruled by pro-abortion so-called moderates to save THEM from the Marxists. We’ll hold to our beliefs, come hell or high water, and if you can’t handle that, stop asking for our help, because you don’t want us.
Even as Millard Fillmore and the Whig Party passed from the scene, political evolution presented the changing demographics of each new emerging era with needs creating newly named political parties.
Immigration here since the 1840′s or so has forced the long established White Anglo Saxon Protestant Establishment, which modified our inherited British legal system but did away with the Monarch, to evolve gradually into the 1940′s and then onward.
Party names can change, needs change, but surely there will always remain the need for a Conservative Party, whatever it’s new name may be.
Teddy Roosevelt was a “progressive”, Franklin Roosevelt was a “traitor to his class”, Wilson’s idealism, Johnson’s coarseness and populism clashed with all of those Kennedy’s nouveau riche limousine-Liberalism, Nixon’s pragmatism…..on and on….up to right now.
Even among our growing Hispanic demographic, all of them won’t be illegally amongst us and eager entitlement seekers.
So….what if the current “Republic-ans” dissipate, our Republic will still have a real need for a conservative opposition to liberalism……and Islam.
The key focus for us Americans right now is to watch carefully how socialistic Europe deals with how to actually pay for the mushrooming costs of their blithe wand-waved entitlements with maybe a 30 hour work week and “retirement” at age 50 and hordes of Muslim trouble seekers breeding like fish and refusing to assimilate.
We Anglo-Celtic-Saxon Europeans must still look to Europe as exemplars of what to avoid…….just as we did in the 17th Century.
Now….even if we become more homogenized, somehow we Americans must find a way to combat the gradual infestation of Muslims and Islam in general. We must unify against Islam at all costs.
We must consider creeping Islam the new equivalent of all of the prior despotism and monarchism of Old Europe which we so successfully escaped from.
Only now, there is no escaping geographically to a “New World” across an adjoining ocean, we must stand and fight Islam right here in our yards….starting now.
We must unite for this.
If you have young democrat voters in your family, then you have a big job to do. Get working on it! If republicans can’t at least convince their own family, then where are we? I am proud that my three children vote republican and it’s because of the personal responsibility and respect for our founding traditions that we taught as parents. All republicans (conservatives) should be looking at home first!
Oh cheer the he&& up.
Twenty years from now, the people who bought into that “permanent Democratic majority” garbage are going to be hunted down like dogs by this generations kids, who are going to be angry as all get out when they find out they have no money to pay the taxes levied on them.
Latinos and black folks don’t like to pay onerous taxes any more than white folks do.
Parties rebrand themselves and move about all the time. So will the GOP.
It’s just a process of promoting the libertarian crowd and purging the Bushtards, is all.
>>Latinos and black folks don’t like to pay onerous taxes any more than white folks do.
They don’t have to; they’re subsidized.
I don’t know if Romney will lose, but I’ll say this: if he does, it’s true that Bush will be the last Republican president. Maybe Republicans will go the way of the Whigs, and some party that can counter the Democrats will rise. (Out of ashes.)
“The truth is Romney at this time, is actually the best candidate the Republicans could have to spearhead the ticket. The reasoning is since Romney is perceived as “more moderate”, he has a better chance of converting independent voters in those 9 toss-up states”
So he is a moderate in the same vein as John McCain and Bob Dole? If history serves as any guide, republicans LOSE when they nominate moderates. It’s the conservatives that win elections.
So you’re claiming that George W. Bush, the “Compassionate Conservative” actually ran in 2000 as a firebreathing Conservative hardliner? Really? That’s not the way I heard it. The whole meme of “Dole and McCain lost because they weren’t Conservative enough” is a nonsense narrative promoted mostly by Karl Rove to tout his accomplishments as George W.’s main strategist. My understanding of the ’96 campaign was that Clinton managed to hang Newt Gingrich around Dole’s neck like a chain and anchor and won the support of moderates and independents by scaring them with the prospect of a GOP-controlled Congress working in unison with a GOP-controlled White House, something that hadn’t happened since the ’50s.
McCain’s problem was that he faced an unprecedented (I hate to even use that word but in this case it’s accurate) challenge of running against the first-ever viable black nominee of a major party. There was no blueprint as to how an old white guy should maneuver around the obstacle course of political correctness created by this unique contest. And McCain was betrayed by a mainstream media that was completely in the tank for Obama and refused to properly vet him. The economy crashed and McCain made an unfortunate remark about the “fundamental soundness” of the economy, which made him seem out of touch. And also McCain was coming after two terms of Bush and so all of the hatred of Bush was redirected at him.
It’s time to stop being lazy and falling back on the tired and frequently bogus memes of the past and especially of those promoted by the Left. It’s time to deal with the problems bravely and systematically and stop acting like chicken littles.
For the record, I disagree with Myra about the outlook. The Left isn’t going to get away with the Jedi Mind Trick anymore. Reality is NOT what THEY say it is. It’s what WE DECIDE it will be!
And yet six comments up we have someone complaining (correctly, IMO) that Bush was a moderate. If you start the clock at 1980 moderate Republicans are 3-3, The conservative Republican is 2-0, it is all too possible that his victories are due more to personal traits than ideology. All of the losses (and one of the wins) were by old moderates.
If we are going to extract lessons from history it seems to be this: If you are a Republican over 65 you should run as a conservative. If you are younger than 65 you can run as a moderate. Of course drawing any definitive conclusion from a sample of 5 over the course of 30 years is ludicrous. But it is better than cherry-picking data.
All civilizations and cultures go through the same phases as a Human life. Birth, maturity, old age and death. The death of a culture can come from without or within or both.The decline of the Roman Empire shows the path America is upon.
Devaluation of the currency, political corruption,degeneracy in all of its forms are present and growing and will result in an ugly end. Economic collapse followed by dictatorship and finally civil war to the knife; have been the fates of many civilizations and we are following the path to oblivion!
What you’re really asking is if Obama is going to be our last President period. Sadly, the answer may very well be yes. We’re in for some type of “event” and I doubt the country will survive intact.
All of those points were bandied about after 2008, didn’t hold much water 2 years later.
Demographics is not destiny, public-workers unions are on the retreat, the internet is not an advantage for Democrats, the hold of Hollywood on the people is negligible, the education system has been controlled by liberals for 40 years and it has not ensured liberal dominance, the same for the mainstream media which is in decline, “hatred for Republicans in general” is a weak argument as its based on skewed perception offered by the declining mainstream media, the “mess we’ve inherited” argument went stale over a year ago and hasn’t gotten any fresher, and point number nine is liberal propaganda that doesn’t match the truth.
That list is garbage.
Exactly. Every time there is a sweep, politicos like to crow about the death of the defeated party.
After 1868-1872, they said the Democratic Party was surely dead.
After 1912, they said the Republican Party was surely dead.
After 1928, they said the Democratic Party was surely dead.
After 1936-40, they said the Republican Party was surely dead.
After 1948, they said the Republican Party was surely dead.
After 1952-6, they said the Democratic Party was surely dead.
After 1964, they said the Republican Party was surely dead.
After 1972, they said the Democratic Party was surely dead.
After 1980-4-8, they said the Democratic Party was surely dead.
After 2008, they said the Republican Party was surely dead.
And now they’ve come to tell us that the Republican Party is surely dead? With but one historical example of a major national party being replaced by another (Whig –> Republican)?
We have two broader choices:
1) Push for a peaceful separation into two countries roughly along blue and red state geography, culture, etc. A third party could start the ball rolling. Both sides in the end will be MUCH happier for a time.
or
2) Become Europe, lazy, souless, a modern-day “Matrix”.
Americans have no stomach for an actual revolution where we have to go to a shooting war to secede from such a huge overpowering federal government.
ENDGAME
I said in 2000 that Bush would be the last Republican president: either GWB (if he got elected) or GHWB (if GWB was not elected). Never under-estimate the power of free. Even if people know the gravy train will end, they will try and stay on it as long as possible.
In addition, the national debt will end our way of life. We can’t keep borrowing (ask Greece), and the economic shock of balancing our budget would bring an unprecedented depression. Doesn’t really matter who gets elected.
As long as the fed govt annually spends 4 trillion and borrows 2 trillion it really matters not a whit if the guy (gal) in the White House is a D or an R or something else. The road we are on is a familiar one. It’s the one that the USSR took on it’s way to oblivion: The Highway to History’s Ash Heap. We’ll get there near the end of my lifetime. When I was born Old Glory had 48 stars. When I die there’s a good chance Old Glory will have less than 40 stars thereon.
Oh, please. All these factors were even more true forty-thirty years ago, and we still won presidencies even while the Democrats unequivocally controlled the legislature and states at the ground level. If anything, we have a better chance now.
I have a couple of criticisms of these points, insofar as that they don’t paint such a grim picture:
4. We’ve known for a while that this has been happening. But thanks to the prevalence of conservative news and opinion alternatives, this is a factor that is becoming increasingly irrelevant. Republicans have more power to be conservative now than they ever have before.
5. Hollywood is also a big left-leaner, but conservatism is rejected in TV and movies less than it was before. People don’t really listen to Hollywood figures much for their politics. Liberal activists are generally seen as blowhards more than they are praised, outside of the Hollywood elite that is.
6. They are powerful, but the only reason that they have mobilized recently is that their power is threatened. Why else would they ? The tide can be turned against them. You make it out to be as though we are already defeated on this front.
10. The Internet has become a tool that is utilized fantastically well by both sides. Much like how we’ve come to dominate talk radio, conservatives can thrive on the Internet. Pajamas Media itself is an easy example. Reason, Heritage, Drudge, Breitbart, Malkin, and others can all mobilize resources on their own sites and on social networking. While it is true that the large majority of internet users are likely to be liberal in their outlook, alternative views also thrive on the Internet. It’s a tool which can easily be taken control of, if we put our minds to it.
As a former GOP county chairman, I hate to admit it but I agree with everything you say. I was 57-58 when I presided over the party organization, and was still one of the youngest in attendance at our monthly meetings!
I agree also that the Left not only has done an outstanding job in its Gramscian “march through the institutions”, but also has created a different America from that in which we grew up. As Bertoldt Brecht put it “The government decided to dissolve the people and elect a new one.”
However, I don’t agree that it will be Democrats forever after the demise of the GOP. As it is currently constituted, the Democratic party is a very loose confederation of interest groups that, when all is said and done, hate each other’s guts and are bound only by a hatred of Republicans, Chimpy Bushitler McHalliburton, etc. etc. After the GOP is gone and socialism is established, these groups will have a difficult time finding a scapegoat and providing goodies for an increasingly impoverished populace.
Too bad I won’t be around to see it.
Mmmm, apple pie. And turn that frown upside down!
It’s Deja` Vu all over again.
This article is nothing more than 2009 garbage recycled to look new for 2012.
Um, in case you missed it, that Dead Republican Party was Resurected by a group called ‘The Tea Party.’
Yup, and they aren’t dead yet either. You see, y’all thought the Tea Party was a Protest Movement (and like all movements it moves and stops) but it wasn’t, it was a Revolution (as in really new ideas and it comes around again when you least expect it.)
One of those Really New and Trend Setting Ideas the Tea Party has is ‘Respect for the Constitution.’ I know it’s hard for you Establishment Types to understand, but the folks actually do have an affinity for the Constitution as Written. (not the living breathing monstrosity that Dems and Establishment RINOs like)
Essentially the major problem with your article is November 2010. Now I know that the Establishment Republicans are doing thier best to dispirit the Tea Party, and force them to form a third party, but the Tea Party is having none of that! Just ask Dick Lugar!
You know what? It’s far more likely that BHO may be the last democratic president (for a long time). Here’s the thing, people are going to have to start voting with their wallets sooner rather than later. As a young Republican, I eagerly anticipate the day when the majority of my generation suddenly realizes that government is the problem, not the solution. And if they can’t come to this realization on their own, I guarantee, China will help them along. Reality is a, well, you know.
Do the commenting conservatives believe that our critique of the socialist state is correct? If we are right, it doesn’t matter whom is elected in November.
If Obama is elected, he will accelerate the destruction of the US economy and the question within a generation will be whether or not the US remains a single nation, or fractures into red/blue areas. If Romney (the “moderates choice”) is elected he may delay the inevitable a few years, but because he (and the political establishment) won’t be able to make the necessary hard choices, the same day of reckoning will be on the horizon.
Then again, if we conservatives are wrong, every thing will be just fine.
So, don’t worry!
These occasional Jeremiads from various pundits on the right grate on the nerves. Mark Steyn, for example, enjoys great success in large part because he is forever proclaiming the death of the West, the triumph of the enemies of freedom and truth, the victory of darkness over light, and so on. It gets tiresome, especially when it is equally true the forces arrayed against us, both extremist left-wing domestic political opponents and sundry foreign adversaries, are notoriously incompetent, taken singly or as a whole.
Like other Republicans, I admit to a certain amount of frustration with a GOP leadership that absolutely refuses to exploit the weaknesses of our Democratic opponents out of a misguided sense of fair play, but the truth is the Republican Party boasts a number of talented, capable, accomplished leaders: Romney, Ryan, Christie, Rubio, Jindal, et al. Looking at the players on the field, are you telling me with a straight face that intellectual lightweights and poseurs like Barack Obama and David Axelrod are unbeatable opponents? Are you saying Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are simply too formidable to face head-on?
So yeah, there’ll be another Republican President. Meanwhile, please stop prophesying the death of the GOP. Instead, find a way to make it better. Come up with ideas that win.
I’ve been saying this since Clinton was in office: that the next time a Democrat is in the White House, there will never be another Republican. These 10 reasons spell it out pretty well. The Democrats and their useful idiots are deliberately sabotaging the country in order to seize permanent power. The public schools have long since given up created educated, well-rounded citizens in favor of ignorant, narrowly propagandized Democrat voters who’s only notable skill is turning up to vote, maybe.
Maybe after the Democrats cause a total collapse of the system and all those little democrats get a cold dose of reality things will change. But then there is the whole demographic issue, people who didn’t come from a working democracy but where the state is expected to be a dispenser of free stuff. That will be MUCH harder to overcome.
The democrat party is in many ways even more fragmented than the Republican Party, up until now it has held together due to it’s ability to “spread the wealth around” via printing and spending.
As economic reality overtakes “the transformative power of hope and change” sometime in Obama’s second term or Romney’s first that option will slam shut in their face as a funding crisis ala Greece 6 months from now or (my prediction) hyperinflationary collapse forces Congress to cut spending. (Or simply watch the country disintegrate into insolvency, which will result in the same end result.)
When that happens bring popcorn… and ammo…
Obama wins re-election. The American economy begins its collapse shortly thereafter. Inflation reigns. Civil unrest follows. The Democrats are routed in the mid-term elections. Americans say “enough” and Obama becomes the most reviled president in history and resigns. The heavily Republican congress essentially runs the show. The former vice-president who is now president becomes a totally inept thumb-sucker on the sidelines and the butt of comedy routines. A conservative Republican is elected president in 2016. Hopefully, there will be enough pieces left of America so that she can be restored back to whole.
The path to victory is simple. Get about 75% of the White vote.
Blacks are 12% of the population and declining. They hate White people, mostly, as seen by their behavior, and in particular their monetary embrace of anti-White racism in Louis Farrakhan. Who lives in a mansion bigger than Oprahs around the corner from Obama.
Hispanics (really in the US Mexicans) are about 8% of the electorate. Keep them that way, and make sure Affirmative Action if it cannot be abolished is reserved only for Blacks and make Hispanics suffer under AA. So they won’t join the anti-White party of Democrats and Blacks (but I repeat myself).
Married White women vote Republican. Because that’s the White guy party. We need to get about 80%+ of White guys, getting more of that demo is the easiest (hey Dems HATE HATE HATE White men) to add votes.
Unmarried White women HATE HATE HATE ordinary White guys, its true. But they are bottom of the totem pole, for AA goodies. The way to crash things is Alinsky-like claiming of AA goodies until there are none left, and a backlash by Dems to protect BLACKS leads to White women being canned from their jobs in education, healthcare, corporate HR, etc.
This one group should be targeted for peeling off, by creating spoils-battles struggles inside Democratic politics that leads them to lose, and offering spoils of our own: Preference for hiring WHITE WOMEN FIRST, and Blacks LAST. Believe me, White women who are unmarried like money too.
In short, it is the DEMOGRAPHY stupid! Not the culture, which merely follows it.
Hollywood is lame as can be, if its not a tweener book or comic book, no one sees their movies, and George Clooney is functionally indistinguishable from Kim Kardashian. The media is distrusted as the idiotic mouthpiece of the elites.
Republicans win by embracing their White guy status (yes, I know most here have internalized the HATE HATE HATE most single White women direct at the 90% of White guys who are not sexy, deal with it) and peeling off enough of White unmarried women. Offer to put them first EVEN OVER BLACK PEOPLE. That’s an offer the Democrats can’t match. And believe me, its effective. Even Oprah’s fans would rather be a privileged Government employee than give that up to someone who looks like Oprah.
How are you going to keep Hispanics at 7%. Do you really think they will allow Nazis like you to send them to camps? They know how to fight and many serve in the military. It’s bigots like you why I left the GOP. You are White trailer park inbred KKK trash!
How do we keep them that way? Ditch contraception and abortion, that’s how. As long as the population of whites grows just as fast as Hispanics, the percentages hold steady, and we abolish a couple of atrocities in the process- everybody wins except the poison peddlers and the hit men.
Contraception an atrocity? So, what gives you the right to dictate to families, other than your own, how they will reproduce, if at all? Republicans would be sweeping to victory in November if the first and only focus was on the economy, spending, and small government. Instead, we see the lack of focus with advocacy to use big government to impose certain religious beliefs.
Then how do you explain Republicans winning over 700 offices in the last election? And this wave made it possible in many cases for the re-drawing of state electoral maps in Republicans favor. These 10 points could have been made – minus the internet – at the same time Reagan crushed Carter. And we didn’t have talk radio and FoxNews. Finally, if you look at the nation’s electoral map by county for 2000, 2004, 2008, the country is almost completely red. But can Obama win twice? Sure. After all, Bill Clinton did this to his own people and won reelection: http://www.wizardsofaz.com/wac…
And if that weren’t bad enough, Clinton’s thugs then stuck a machine gun in the face of a 5 year old boy and sent him to the communist gulag known as Cuba: http://www.therealcuba.com/eli…
Let’s posit that Obama gets another four years and the Dems hold the Senate. In that four year span, the bond market is likely to kick Treasuries to the curb causing ruinous inflation, and Medicare’s insolvency is likely to accelerate to the present. At the confluence of these two events, the Democrat Party will either shine or implode, that is, it will either fundamentally reform tax, fiscal and entitlement policies or futz around at the margins and blame Republicans for doing nothing.
If the Dems futz rather than shine, the ruinous inflation will lead to a wave of debt defaults making the subprime meltdown look like small change, largely wiping out the middle class. In the meantime, the Medicare insolvency will eat up general tax revenues, leaving the feds no other option but to print money, and lots of it, further driving up inflation. Total economic collapse Great Depression-style will not be far behind, but this time Americans will be so divided against each other that bloody riots and violent crime will become commonplace.
At this point, We the People living in states that work better than others will notice that our problems can be solved by jettisoning the federal government. How we do it will determine whether the republic survives or breaks apart. Therefore, George W. Bush could be both the last Republican president and the last president of the republic.
Who is this person who speaks to me as though I needed her advice?
Immigration (at least from Mexico) is largely drying up, and there’s fair amount of GOP support from the wealthy of that group. People become conservative as they grow older and / or start making money.
The Latino vote is a myth. Only a small amount of Latinos are actually registered voters. And some Latino dominated states like CA are foregone conclusions anyways.
Having said that, the GOP could certainly benefit from active outreach effort to various non white groups who tend be more socially conservative. The CA Republicans dropped the ball when did not respond to the shark fin ban.
Even leftist European nations like Spain eventually tire of prolonged one party rule. Scot Walker and Marco Rubio could be dynamite future candidates if their policies enrich their respective states in 4 years. If the courts strike down Obamacare and uphold the various immigration related laws (voter id, sb 1070) then we accomplished things we expected out of a Romney admin anyways.
The entire movement will be charged when the SC strikes down Obamacare.
First you shove Romney at us and crow…now you are making excuses for his loss.
Make up your mind already.
Whiskey is right, pump up the white vote. That’s how we took over the House in 2010. Run some Willie Horton commercials. Bush 41 was dead in the water in 1988 before he ran those ads.
It won’t work in a presidential election where turnout is higher. If it would work you can bet the GOP would be doing it. It is electoral suicide. Besides demographics do not favor that sort of strategy. Ultimately, the governing party has to govern and you can’t do that by running a race war.
William of bedford is just inbred KKK white trash that is now the base of the GOP. I predict the Republicans will be reduced to klansmen and sane Conservatives will start a new Party.
I see why you choose to post as anonymous. It’s a good place to hide when you have nothing to say but lame liberal talking points and baseless name calling. As we’re in the prediction business , I have one for you ,Nostradumba**. I predict no one will match your level of stupidity and vapidity in the comment thread.
I am to your Right. I believe in National unity and reject both the Marxist Democrats and the National Socialist Republicans. You both are destroying my country. Sane Conservatives will start a new party and take back our nation from the heirs of the Nazis and Communists.
the governing party has to govern and you can’t do that by running a race war.
Somebody forgot to tell Obama and his vanguard. They seem to think that promoting racial division is the way to go. That’s why their allies promote as much fake “racism” as they can. But it’s exactly their reliance on such strawmen that will ultimately ruin it for Obama.
Comrade Obama isn’t really trying to govern; he’s reorganizing the government for the next phase of the coup d’etat they pulled off in ’08. He’s allowing just enough to happen to keep the government functioning and spending money we don’t have.
I grew up in the same dead by unions and liberalism, crappy little town in Massachusetts that Libertarian Penn Jillette did. Although Penn was 10 years older and I was closer to his nephew Fraser’s age, the town managed to turn out many Libertarian and Republican. My mother fought against having to pay union dues as a young teacher, is now a foaming at the mouth liberal. Had she not moved to Caifornia, she would be getting an absolutely pitiful pension that would not afford her the lifestyle of golf and sun she enjoys now. One of her best friends always advised me to get a union job because I would be “taken care of”. I never did and could never live with myself if I had. Especially after living in Grosse Pointe/Detroit as an ununionized controller for several small union companies that had almost been bankrupted by the burden of union benefits when the economy turned.
Perhaps more young people will turned off by the Jimmy Carteresque President we have, as I was by Jimmy Carter himself. I was thrilled to be able to vote for Ronald Reagan. I doubt that many first time voters will be by Mitt Romney but I know my daughter will be insulted by the Obama cradle to grave coddled “Julia” as I am. My sons are equally insulted by Obama, both being Marines as was their father. I believe that my children are part of a silent majority, unpolled and ignored by the mainstream media as are their parents.
There is hope for Republicans and the party.
Ah, well we might as well just quit now and reregister as Democrats.
I dunno. I think that Mitt should reach out to blacks, latinos, and others. Some of these folks are suffering under Odumba also. I love W but he would not reach out because it was not comfortable and he was a little too compassionate. Romney is thick skinned, edgy, sure of himself, and when he learns not to gaff himself, may do better than we think. He is also SUCCESSFUL and almost everybody wants to be the same. I like his line when he visited the estate of a rich friend. “If the democrats came here, they would say no one should live like this; when republicans come here, we say everyone should live like this”. Mitt wants to spread the wealth too, but by providing opportunities to work for it, not by doling it out as entitlements.
Romney is running on White trash resentment. He doesn’t want the Hispanic vote. The GOP has become the Party of White inbred KKK trash. The Democrats are the Party of Marxists and Black Racists. Screw them both.
Gary Johnson, a true American choice!
“True Conservative” idiots like you are the most likely cause of Comrade Obama’s re-election. You’re not content to just go third party or stay home, all over the Country your fellow idiots are doing their best to destroy Republican state and local parties in the name of that fraud RonPaul, RonPaul, RonPaul. If Soros isn’t funnelling money into that old fraud’s activities, he certainly should be.
I have seen only one article of Adams with which I agreed. This is not that article.
The electoral picture has been basically teh same for a long time. Look at the electoral count of red-leaning States in 2000, and look at the the Blue-leaning. See the battleground States. The Republican has to almost sweep the battlegrounds. Bush squeaked by in 2000, but ran the table of the battlegrounds in 2004. Both times, he had the same disadvantage as Romney suffers now, and he did not have a despised President to run against.
McCain had the same disadvantage, but the Left sold snake oil to the public in Obama, so McCain got trounced. They cannot sell that same snake oil, again. Obama is not the blank slate this time.
Left off that list is PA. Definitely in play. As is MI. WI, too. Who knows, maybe even MA or CT? Obama may carry CO and IA. Almost all the rest will go to Romney. Obama’s only hope is VA. He has to hold all the maybe Blues, and get VA and either CO and/or IA. If he loses a single one of those Great Lakes States which are usually Blue, he’s done. If he loses PA, it will be an early night.
The starting map is always rough for Repubs, and yet, the Repubs have won most of the elections since LBJ, several times in crushing victories. If not for Perot, Bush Sr. would have whupped Bubba. Personally, I think Bush Jr. underperformed, or rather, that he simply was a poor candidate, anyway. He only won, because the Dem was worse.
This is the same old gloom and doom of demographics as always. It posits that these groups will not change their outlook ever. That is silly, too. All this is the same nonsense put forth every election. It’s the same stuff put forth by the Leftist Media all the time.
The forthcoming death of the Republican Party has been greatly exaggerated. Many times.
No. Well, not the last conservative president, at least, though the next one may have something other than “R” beside his name. What I do hope though, Ms. Adams, is that lazy writers would stop beating this “we’re doomed to one party rule; the Republicans (or Democrats) can never win again!” dead horse…the poor horse carcass is flat as a pancake already. This silly idea for a story was old and tiresome ages ago. Nobody will ever have a permanent majority. See also, “The End of History” crowd. That bunch has been just as accurate at forecasting the future as the folks who write stuff like this waste of space article.
Although an American having lived 30 years in Germany I have sadly watched the “welfare-ism” expanding at “home”. I hope that Obama is rejected by my fellow citizens. If not, I will surrender and change my citizenship to a state that still rejects the something for nothing inflationism of our current American “leader”. I suspect that other Americans will do the same. -Prof. Leonard Wessell
Our “moderate”, mainline, Beltway GOP’ers still operate under the assumption that allowing mass immigration of 3rd worlders is good for the country (and their party). It isn’t. The brutal truth is “non-white” people vote overwhelmingly liberal Democrat.
Question: So why do they cheer Latino, Asian, Arab/Muslim immigration?
Answer: That’s why they’re called The Stupid Party.
Latinos have nothing to do with Islam. In fact their ancestors fought Islam. You ancestors collaborated with the Turks. You are just ignorant inbred KKK Nazi trash. That’s why the GOP will become extinct. Decent Conservatives are tired of you unbathed Pale looking barbarian inbred scum.
Two things here:
1. Your top ten list could be applied to any Republican president in the last century. Remember that the Democrats have always favored themselves as the “peoples party” while Republicans were never comfortable with the idea (T. Roosevelt excluded, though he wasn’t exactly conservative either). By the time of FDR, many felt that a GOP president was an impossibility, so moderate candidates became more and more frequent. Nobody likes Mitt Romney now, nobody liked Tom Dewey then. The war against Republicans has always existed: watch any old movie, and they are almost always pro-democrat (with a few exceptions toward Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne).
Pauline Kael famously couldn’t name a single Nixon voter, and she was typical of the press at the time – Nixon was bad, Reagan was worse. Reagan was lucky, he was a force of personality, a true conservative in the vein of Coolidge. Reagan has since then become the GOP gold standard, but nobody wants to be Reagan, they all want to be Nixon, Bush, and Ike. Simply put, nobody has the cojones to be conservative anymore. If the GOP dies, it is because of its own stubbornness and stupidity – we voters tried to help, but they just didn’t listen.
Which brings me to
2.
“(Do you seriously think Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann, Cain, or Perry would be doing any better?)”
Yes, yes I do. Compare Reagan to the other Republicans since Coolidge, notice how they stack up in popularity. Nobody likes a moderate, not even Jesus.
“I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” -Revelation 3:15-16
Say what you will about the other candidates, but Romney’s reception has been lukewarm since day one. At least the others, especially Cain, were capable of rousing the GOP-base in excitement. Republicans have been the cultural whipping boy of the last one hundred years, and at this rate, it is never going to change. We may die off, but it has been a long time coming since Bush was in office.
Herman Cain does not even know the difference between pro life and pro choice and Santorum is a nasty little man. The truth is Romney came in number one because millions of people voted for him and they made him number one. He does not have to prove anything to people who backed losers who could not even win the nomination.
Who are you to decide for the rest of us?
Gman’s right though. I know why I wanted Cain to win and after him Santorum.
Every single time Romney is mentioned however know what is also mentioned?
Inevitability. The fact that no matter what he will be the candidate. Record? Pshaw that’s just crazy talk.
And yes he does need to prove something to us because he needs our votes to do anything. Her can;t get buy with just what he has now.
With a bellyful of hopey-changey “excitement,” I think a lot of people are now hungering for someone who is more down-to-Earth, predictable & practical. Romney has demonstrated his capacity to be quite successful in his endeavors. Enough already of the immature, petulant, angry little Obama. People are ready to have the country run by a true adult.
I agree, though I don’t think you understood what I meant by “excitement.” I’m not saying that we need a Republican idealist mirror of Obama (heck no), I’m talking about excitement as in winning GOP attention. Reagan got the conservatives excited, and for good reason, by simply being unquestionably conservative himself. I don’t see that with Romney. Few do.
The Republican Party have been hijacked by White Trash KKK Neo Nazis. We need a credible Conservative alternative to the Marxists. Nazism is not the answer.
Just where do you see all these white supremacists in the Republican Party?
I looked all up and down your 10 reasons and could find no mention of the 2010 midterm LANDSLIDE election. If you think as Democrats insist you must think (ignore Obama’s JOB approval rating in the 30′s and that 60+% of the public blames Democrats for the mess we are in)then your 10 points make perfect sense.
Midterm electorate is very different than general electorate. Older and Whiter.
Mid-term elections are not irrelevant, especially the 2010 mid-terms where
the landslide Republican victory was so convincing from federal elections
down to local dog catcher. These type elections can be great predictors of
what is coming – take a look at how the Republican comeback in 1978 lead
to Reagan’s smashing victory in 1980.
Let’s see if I can talk the author and others on this site off their respective
ledges. There are approximately 310 million legal citizens currently living
in the United States. In 2008 roughly 125 million people cast their votes in
the McCain/Obama matchup. That leaves close to 200 million citizens that did
not vote. Obviously some of these people are ineligible to vote (under 18,
felons etc.) but it underscores the fact that there are millions of possible
voters to entice to the Republican side. In no way are the illegals in this
country close to overwhelming potential natural born voters.
It’s a little early in the game (decades early) to be throwing in the towel
no matter what direction this election goes.
“Is it possible that George W. Bush could be the last Republican president ever, or at least for the foreseeable future?
Am I crazy to even formulate that question?”
Yes.
Couldn’t the Republicans do better than a bishop from that goofy cult? He looks like a younger version of Roman from Big Love.
Just go look at this photo right here on PJM and then come back and tell me Little Zero has a snowball’s chance in hell of being reelected:
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/05/05/obama-campaign-photo-not2008anymore/
No. We’ll have another one in January.
The Democrats are currently like the fat Kid whose mom baked a bunch of Cupcakes. The other kids will be his friend until the cupcakes run out. Once the truth becomes obvious like in Europe where places like Germany when people realize they have been duped they are electing more conservative leaders.
two big problems with the analysis:
1 – math. the coming entitlement crisis will bascially eliminate the dem party. thats the reason for them to exist. and the math doesnt work anymore.
2 – people grow up. young “liberals” who really have no idea what those liberal “policies” that supposedly ascribe to do, how destructive they are, to their own self-interest, eventualy grow up.
your analysis is false. and comical. but #1, the math, is the killer dude. the dems will not exist as a major party in 10 years.
Blah. Written by person in a large city surrounded by liberals, I’m sure. Polls show the youth ahave moved right and BHO cant even draw large crowds at left wing colleges. Blue collar folks have totally abandoned Barry.
80% of the nation leans right of center. Yes, some vote wrongly, but most see through the BS.
Question: Who are the Dems going to run in 2016? They are a VERY old & radical pary. Don’t let 1 ficititious BHO term obfuscate the fact that the GOP won 70% of the elcetion prior.
A typical alarmist article with a dumb title.
Oh, and Arizona and Missouri are NOT on play.If they are, then Wisc/PA/MI/MN and many others are too. You didn’t even put Nevada in play??!!
GOP’s problem is not cowardice, but negativity. That, and letting the hard right try (and fail) to pick unelectable candidates. Yes, Santorum/Bachmann/Cain etc would be better than Romney as POTUS, but they’d also lose 40 states.
Romney is 100000 times better than Obama. Reagan, who was a big spender and a moderate on social issues, is not coming through the door. Win the election.
And any “conservative” sitting out is worse than the left as YOU will give BHO 4 more years to destory this nation.
Romney is no Conservative. He’s a National Socialist. No thanks, that didn’t work out in Germany, it will not work out in America.
Real Conservative: you’re a troll and probably a paid Axelturfer. Just shut up and go away. The adults here don’t want to be bothered by your stupidity.
The idea that changing demographics will mean no more Republican presidents assumes that the parties will remain static in their respective platforms while the electorate changes. It doesn’t work that way. The parties position themselves to be attractive to a majority of the people and maximize their chances of winning office while staying as close to their ideology as they can. Republicans will continue to have a good chance to be elected president.
So this is what denial looks like. Interesting.
Your ten points are spot on Myra and not one comment seriously explored them or the deleterious each was having on the Republican brand.
There was not a single serious exploration of how the Propaganda and Lies Ministry in all its divisions was distorting the truth more aggressively with each passing day and how our weak, timid and limp-wristed response to the rape of our information stream has allowed them to grow bolder.
There was not a single serious exploration of the disappearance of the Blue Dogs and how the Democratic Party has morphed into small c communism, the now naked attempt to trample the Constitution and destroy capitalism.
There was not a single serious exploration of the impact of the “narrative” on youth, the low information voter, independents, and swing voters. (the incredibly ignorant suggestion that they don’t matter, only “REAL conservatives” matter, is so stupid, it defies response…like child calling you a washing machine head or doody ball).
There was no serious discussion of how to combat the overthrow, the rape of our information stream, the clear path to overthrow, the destruction of our country. It was merely an exercise bathed in denial and filled with crap about how much better it would be if only we “selected” a “better” candidate …meaning one who had ZERO chance against Obama last time, and not much more this time.
They don’t like the fact that their “hero” can’t even garner suburban Republicans, much less the modern “middle”. They are angry, irrational and incapable of working through the logic.
Here’s the truth of it. You made one mistake. You added in Romney. He’s not my first choice. He’s not my fifth choice. He’s not my tenth choice. I thought there were much better choices. But, he’s our last hope against the revolution, because I have no idea where these people who ignored the Constitution in the first term will take us in a second term, but a pat on Medevev’s knee gives me a clue.
The NLRB, ACORN/SEIU/Worker’s Party, OWS, EPA, Dept of Energy, academia, Hollywood, and the Propaganda and Lies Ministry are aligned against the free market, the military, law enforcement, southern states, Judeo-Christian heritage and the Constitution. That is no joke and deserves better than the denial blather it gets when mentioned.
We need to start fighting for our lives. We aren’t. It is this denial and the inane arguments that advance the denial that will be our downfall. We can’t look at the nation the way we want to pretend it to be. We have to look at it as it is.
This article was a very good one. I don’t buy some of your Romney defense, but I understand the need to try to rally the troops behind him. He’s the wrong candidate in my opinion, but the need to fight with everything we have does not change with that fact.
I liked your fun and jokes column better…still waiting for the announcement of the winner.
But this one was needed. And, the responses highlighting the lack of depth of understanding and total denial are crushing.
If we are doomed, it’s not because the enemy is seditious and filled with traitors, it’s because we were told they are seditious and filled with traitors and we would rather squabble over how weak McCain and Bush and Romney were as conservatives. That’s not the point. Saving the country from overthrow is the point.
And, they just don’t get it.
You missed the photo winner announcement column, so here it is again. Thanks for your thoughtful response to this column.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/04/16/winner-of-the-obama-image-on-the-flag-photo-caption-contest/
I agree with you. The source cause is the takeover of the academia, media, culture and entertainment by one side of the political spectrum, and mainly the far-left, that is currently also dominant in the Democrat party. This isn’t unique to the US, but to the entire Western culture. The question is what should be done about it.
People like David Horowitz try to fight it from within – fighting for more freedom of speech in universities, for instance. This is certainly a very important fight, but in addition the right should create more and more alternatives in all those areas, including popular culture and entertainment – popular fiction, movies, TV series. A new university, perhaps, where you would have both liberal and conservatives professors, so there would be a real battleground of ideas. Every information-related failure of the left should be trumpeted in the comments of their own media, and so should every information-success of the right. For instance, their abysmal failure in predicting the results of the “Arab Spring” in Egypt shouldn’t be allowed to disappear down the memory hole, but should be repeated again and again in relevant comment sections together with links to more accurate predictions in conservative leaning websites such as this one (for instance, Barry Rubin not only predicted the success of the Muslim Brotherhood, he’s also the only person I know of who actually predicted the revolution itself). Every failure of the left should not be allowed to be forgotten, and should be accompanied by an alternative the consumers can switch to when they decide they’ve had enough.
As you said, they become increasingly bolder and more aggressive in their distortion of the truth, but there lies also their weakness – having done that for decades, they’ve become smug and accustomed to easily faking their way and selling the public any piece of garbage unchallenged – they are sloppy and make a lot of mistakes. Today they get caught more often thanks to the new media, but people forget. For instance, editing, i.e. faking, the evidence in the Zimmerman case must not be forgotten even a year from now. People should be reminded again and again of every fraud and every forgery and every failure, and be offered alternative sources of information while at it. With determination and persistence we should be able over time to create cracks and doubts in the minds of the MSM consumers, so they might at least consider other points of view.
While I don’t think it’s literally the case, figuratively, it is, and immigration is the main cause. 90% of immigrants, and that’s just legal ones, in the last 10 years have come from Third World countries. Generally speaking, they have no interest in concepts like the greater good. Try finding a lending library even today, in Rio de Janeiro, one of the most advanced and cosmopolitan cities in Latin America, headed for hosting the World Cup and Olympics.
But even the relatively advanced Brazilians are not our problem but even worse sources of failure, at least in American terms. What does that all lead to: a societal Tower of Babel, where people vote by skin and last names, and organize themselves from the ground up the same way, from school boards to city councils.
They will either ignore law, or set up new one’s to suit themselves. These new immigrants will pick apart America at the seams, using cries of ‘racism’ to forge ahead and waste tax dollars as a physical expression of why they aren’t really doing any better in America than in their homelands. Equal is as equal does, and there is no wishful thinking about it.
In an age of national cut throat competitions since forever, the West has mopped the floor with the Third World for at least the last 300 years, and in other ways far longer. Sources of societal and technological success and failure have become ever more polarized and obvious. Strangely, politicized people see the exact opposite – a world ever more obviously equal, though it can’t be shown in actual fact. Reality and faith will collide, with disastrous results. Immigration combined with political correctness, amount to a demographic and cultural suicide pact when it comes to the concept of a Bill of Rights, peace, organization and curiosity for its own sake.
Even Republicans dare not challenge immigration anymore, and speaking a bit of Spanish or having a black running mate are more important to the increasingly stupid Rep Party than sticking to their values. In short, conservative are either increasingly buying into political correctness as they let the other side frame the arguments and narratives, or they figure they’d better at least pretend. It amounts to the same thing.
Strictly in terms of cultural success, the West is disappearing a little bit every day. Eventually it will fail, the troubles of the Third World not solved, but merely transferred North. Look at any Dem rally: they are increasingly for socialization – why wouldn’t they be, their values are the values of failure.
America is not getting smarter, but stupider. Who would’ve imagined OWS 50 years ago – a protest where the participants are so moronic their arguments aren’t really more literate than the signs they carry, and which amount to not liking Faux News, Teabaggers and Sarah Palin? Throw in Bush and Cheney there too.
People who think Egyptians and Somalis and Mayan Indians are the natural groups that will lead America into a continuation of our exceptionalist heritage are whistling in the dark. They’d better run over to those places and ask themselves why billions of dollars and hand-holding are necessary to explain away people who stare out of windows, can’t figure out doorknobs or even feed themselves.
Without immigration America would’ve politically done what it has in the past, run back and forth trying things out but reacting to failure with rejecting it. Today we don’t reject failure but embrace it, and even encourage it, by socialization and programs that firmly lay the blame for failure, not with failure, but with the endemic racism of the most successful people in history. The problem is, you can’t even say that today without being accused of racism, while Muslims, blacks, Hindus and all the rest can trumpet any least expression of success from jazz to, well, nothing really, till the cows come home.
We have been invaded and colonized, and we have done it to ourselves. Our new citizens don’t care one way or the other if the whole thing goes to pot, it’ll still be a lot better than where they came from for generations. Just remember that failure is repeating failure because it can’t see beyond tomorrow and wouldn’t care if it did.
Hindus are on average the richest ethno-religious group in the US, and possibly with the highest rate of college education. Their wealth comes from success in “real-world” professions such as business, medicine and hitech, and certainly not from handouts. The Indian economy is also growing quite rapidly since they’ve adopted a more liberal, free-market, orientation (relatively to the past).
I don’t support mass immigration in general for many reasons, but I don’t think white-supremacism is a truthful and useful contribution to the debate.
What white-supremacism? The world was arranged into its present polities long before I was born. I see failure where it is, not wherever I supposedly see people who aren’t white.
Go to India and see what I saw for 3 months: people literally rubbing their snot on walls, garbage everywhere, iron bridges built lord knows when. Ride their ancient trains. It’s a steampunk theme park.
It’s a measure of the problem we are up against that even people who think of themselves as “conservative – as I suspect you do – are under the impression that it is “white supremacism” to suggest that US immigration policy should not be designed to make whites a minority in this country!
The left has taken complete control of the terms of debate, and modern “conservatives” can only think within the confines of what the left has deemed permissible.
George Bush being not quite a liberal not withstanding, if Canada can elect a conservative government so can the USA.
No, GW Bush will not have been the last Republican President. A two party system needs two antipodes, the pendulum always swings back and forth. The Democratic Party literally supported slavery and an armed insurrection against the legitimate government of the U.S. and even though it took them some time to rebound from that, within 20 years of the Civil War there was a Democratic President.
What is likely true is that every coming President will be socially more liberal than the previous one from the same party, due to the variety of social trends, at least until what I will call the “Big Upheaval” when the present system crashes down, which might happen in 5 years or in 200 years, who knows. It’s certainly also possible that nationalized healthcare will become so popular and entrenched, that it’s impossible to turn the clock back to 2008, but rather than spell the end of the Republican Party, that party will simply adapt its stance on that question.
I agree it’s more about the fate of “conservatism” than about the fate of the GOP since in an ever more “liberal” or leftist society the GOP will simply nominate ever more “liberal” or leftist candidates.
I’m not sure what you mean by the “present system” crashing down – if you mean the leftist paradigm or the entire American system. If it’s the former, I think it’ll take far less than 200 years… Don’t forget the US isn’t ideologically isolated – it’s influenced by ideas and changes in other countries that are part of the Western civilization. It will be influenced by what happens in Europe, where the current paradigm is likely to crash sooner than in the US. My bet is that it’ll be more difficult to hold Europe as the model to follow 20 years from now. The paradigm will shift in Europe itself, at least in some countries, and many Americans will draw their conclusions from what will happen there. And there are other global factors, such as Islamism, Russia and China.
Some things just can’t be covered up by the media, and people aren’t entirely stupid and can change their minds, though with the propaganda in the academia and media it takes a lot longer and it takes harsher blows from reality to finally recognize reality. But when you discover you have been lied to and you allowed yourself to get brainwashed on certain important issues you increasingly doubt the information you get from the same sources on other issues and you start asking important questions. I tell you that from personal experience.
This is by no means an optimistic assessment since, as I said, when you get propaganda instead of information it takes harsh blows for reality to break through, whereas with a more accurate information these harsh blows could have been prevented or mitigated. And then there’s also this huge problem that you can’t trust any source of information. Some might turn to radical alternatives on the other side. It’s important to create good alternatives that will replace the current ones, otherwise the cycle will just repeat itself. For instance, this isn’t the first time in history the NYT committed journalistic malpractice by replacing information with propaganda, but people forgot and the NYT wasn’t made to pay a price for it. This time their failure should be advertized and there should be good and robust alternatives the people can switch to, so the NYT and the rest of them will pay a price, so the cycle wouldn’t repeat itself over and aver again.
[Yawn] This is just the same old doom and gloom BS we have heard for decades. People keep saying young voters are more liberal. Well DUH, young voters have always been more liberal. As they get older they realize that liberal policies don’t work. With Democrats spending the country into oblivion and running up enormous deficits why would anyone vote Democrat other than those on the government dole.
The only demographic problem Republicans have is that the two largest states, New York and California have gone way down the path of the far left and are in the hip pocket of the Democrat every presidential election. Those two states have screwed up their economies so badly that they are losing population though, which is really amazing for a state like California which has practically everything else going for it.
Same old gloom and doom? In 1960 were there flash mobs, sanctuary cities, a purposeful plan to write down the white population through unfettered immigration, so-called diversity?
Did kids mimic sex at proms, worship racist and violent music, vote for racists who dressed like hookers from a Bangkok cowboy-themed whorehouse?
Did we stop giving food to the poor because it was salty, did we have Presidents and Atty. General’s who despised America and its history? Your view is without context.
I worry more about the fate of conservatism than the GOP, and I suggest that conservatives who dismiss this topic do so at their own risk.
The reasons for pessimism considerably outnumber the reasons for optimism. Our founding fathers and others knew that democracy is fragile and temporary (John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Tyler). Liberty, defined as freedom tempered by responsibility to a moral code, requires the people to be informed, vigilant, self-sufficient, and respectful of others. John Adams said our Constitution was only for a moral and religious people. Jefferson warned that it is the nature of government to grow; Franklin warned that liberty would wane when people failed in their individual responsibilities; and Tocqueville warned that egalitarianism could seduce people to give up freedom.
Against this backdrop, consider our current status. While Europe is a template for democratic socialism, it is England that is a more troubling demonstration of the transition to this state. If the cradle of enlightenment, the home of John Locke and Adam Smith can become a country of “social workers and clients of social workers” (from “House of Cards”) who take to the streets in violent protest when government benefits are cut back, then why not us? It is hard to argue that the pillars of liberty aren’t crumbling. The American family is being dismantled, society at large is in moral decay, politeness and respect seem a thing of the past, we allow our rights to be eroded, most people are uninformed and uninterested in civics or current events, and the forces of egalitarianism are increasing (redistribution, class warfare, and pleas to “fairness”). Then there is the increasing influence of multiculturalism, which is particularly ruinous to a nation united by ideals and political philosophy (see “Sovereignty or Submission”). There is little doubt, as Ms. Adams points out, that public education serves to indoctrinate our youth into progressive philosophy (a process continued at universities), that the media is biased left (resulting in an estimated 8-10% advantage in elections to the Democrats per “Left Turn”), and that the entertainment media also presents a mostly uniform liberal message (“Primetime Propaganda”). The definition of “conservative” has moved steadily left, both within the population and the GOP, yet the left continues to assail us. With all this evidence, I, for one, do not consider Levin’s “Ameritopia” to be delusional prattle. I think the war against our founding principles began with Wilson and, in my darkest moments, I think it was won by FDR. Since then, conservatives have been in a (mostly) orderly retreat; even Reagan didn’t reverse the trend, he merely slowed it. Colorado Springs, where I live, is a conservative city and I attend several conservative group meetings each month. The general theme is that we need to reverse the direction our country is taking; hardly a victory dance.
There are a few glimmers of hope. The liberal monopoly on the news media is being challenged; Fox News has greater influence (hopefully, the Murdoch’s will take this responsibility seriously and stop their shenanigans), talk radio is a conservative mainstay, and the Internet has unmuzzled many conservative voices. On the Internet I disagree with Ms. Adams; liberals have always had more than enough outlets, so the Internet is not much of a gain for them but it is a tremendous boost for conservatives. The Tea Party has been an amazing thing to behold; conservatives finally stood their ground. Despite the electoral maps, conservatives still outnumber liberals. The political narrative is slowly changing (see this week’s Journal Editorial Report segment on Paul Ryan). Unions are losing power. There is increased support to allow choice in education, to undercut the liberal indoctrination in our public schools. I suspect it isn’t enough, but the principles supporting the desire to fight on must occasionally be reinforced with hope.
Nicely done.
I might add though that hope is hard to keep alive when we have no truly conservative leaders. Conservatives liked Herman Cain until a sex scandal appeared (and disappeared as soon as he quit), and no conservative media icon was more steadfast than Breitbart until he mysteriously died. Fox News can be called “conservative” only by comparison to other news channels, and the internet can be deceptive as to its figures (consider how many conservatives you know who actively read internet news). These are trying times.
Absolutely wrong. Look up the Roe Effect. History belongs to those who show up.
The trends listed in the article are certainly present. But the GOP strategy should not be to run “moderates” like Mr. Etch-A-Sketch Romney. That does not work. The GOP needs to run bold conservatives offering a vision. That is what Reagan did.
One of Newt’s consistently made points was and is how the Republican Party can be the majority party by its substantive policy positions. Newt could speak with auhtority having led the Republicans to capture a House majority for the first time in 42 years with the Contract With America.
The GOP can be the majority party. But it takes more than just saying that Obama is bad. Obama is bad, but what the GOP needs to do is to offer a positive vision of how the GOP wishes to lead the country.
The polls and statistics are meaningless right now. In fact they look a lot like those from Jimmy Carter’s smashing victory over Ronald Reagan in 1980.
Everything changes. Nothing will even look similar in October.
I agree with you, except the fact is that we have a Northeast liberal running as a Republican instead of a Ronald Reagan conservative.
The oountry could be divided in parts but the existing blue states are on both coasts. Where would the people who don’t like either party go? Not everyone who is fiscally conservativeagrees with the social agenda of some Republicans. Many detested Santorem and his moral values just as many conservatives dislike all of Obama’s Czars and numerous other things about the Democrats.
I am pretty sure about one thing. The conservatives, Republicans, or anyone but avid Democrats need every vote they can get. They should know LOUD AND CLEAR that they can’t throw anyone under the bus. They should get their ducks lined up and hire some public relations people that are familiar with this century. They should county every Democratic claim with the truth. They should either make their own “Julia” film or think of something more clever.
Lots of comments. I don’t have enough time to read all of them so forgive me if I’m repeating someone else.
I love articles like this one. After 2004 I read articles suggesting that the Democrats would never win the White House again. After Watergate (I know I’m dating myself by bringing up the 70s) People were saying that Nixon had sullied the Republican Party so much it would never recover. As I recall, the GOP won the White House and Senate in 1980. Of course my favorite are the articles that say the stock market will never go down again, only up. There were a lot of those printed in 1929 and 1999. For those with stocks, the next time you read an article saying the market will never go down….SELL!
Mitt Romney was a horrible choice. If Republicans wanted a moderate who could win they should have voted for Huntsman.
After the Republican tsunami (it wasn’t just a wave) in 2010, I knew that Obama would be re-elected. It doesn’t help that the GOP has put up a man who is either everything to everybody or nothing to anybody (I say he’s the latter). I had been hoping for a conservative in 2012 because even though they would have lost anyway, they could have broken some new ground. Those who study history will tell you that Barry Goldwater lost in a landslide. Those who study politics will tell you that Goldwater set the table for a Ronald Reagan to come along in the future.
I agree with anyone here who has pointed out that Latin-Americans and black evengelist Christians have more in common with the Republican Party than the Democrats. The question is how to tell them that. It’s not hopeless. GWB carried about a third of the Hispanic vote. It wasn’t the majority, but it was enough (not to mention a lot more than the GOP gets these days). Blacks used to vote Repulican too. I know it’s a long time ago, but Nixon won 35% of the black vote in 1960. It can be done.
As for 2012. I don’t think the Republicans could have nominated anyone that could have beaten Obama. The real race this fall is for control of the Senate. That is winnable for Republicans. I see Republicans losing a few seats in the House, but not enough to make a difference. It wouldn’t take too many losses in the Senate to give the Republican Party a lot of power in Washington even without the President on their side.
Maude Adams has a point. Dump Romney is the only hope for the Republican Party. Wednesday after the election is going to be tough! I’m working on my “I told you so” tour dates.
Greece could not beat the Persians.
Texans could not beat Mexico
The Continental Army could not win.
Man can not fly.
Yes, things look bleak from some perspectives. They won’t get any better if we sit around and tell ourselves that we have an excuse for giving up. If you don’t like what is happening, do something about it, don’t just whimper and complain. Freedom is not free, it requires involvement and effort. And I don’t mean just fighting in a war, it takes work every day. And not just once in a blue Tea Party moon, but every day.
Well, let me know when I can reverse the trend of an entire planet to all move from the stupid sections to the smart sections with the stupid connivance of the smart people.
Here’s where your analysis falls apart.
A few months ago I was at a (for lack of a better term) “hipster party” in San Francisco. I fell into a conversation with a young (liberal, obviously) woman in her mid-late 20s. Somehow the conversation quickly turned to politics, and she expressed not hatred of the Tea Party, but rather complete mystification. She couldn’t understand why anyone would agree with them, because they had no beliefs and they made no sense and they were just a bunch of kooky old racists in three-corner hats. What in the world does the Tea Party even want, anyway?
Well, in my patented “I am explaining this to you as a fellow liberal” style, I explained what the Tea Party was all about, still describing them as the “other,” but with every passing sentence a more and more appealing other. When I finally drove home the point that the Tea Party ethos was in fact the hippie ethos (anti-authoritarianism) updated to the modern world, and that Obama was a totalitarian, she was already a convert. Took ten minutes.
All we need is access to them when they are in a receptive frame of mind. I swear these young liberals can be “turned,” quite easily in some cases. The enemy is the MSM, which prevents the dissemination of anything but the Party Line.
Can we have a script please. I have a hundred 20 or 30 somethings I could try it on.
Note: I’m in Australia where the left is now polling in record low numbers and in Queensland one of out states it went from 51 seats to 8 in an election. So we are a little ahead of you. The demographics and education biases are identical. If the Current labor party ran an election today they would go from 50% to 15%. Ouch. Obama over there is making the same blunders.
No mention of Ron Paul means your blind to what’s really happening. Ron Paul’s rallies fill the venue. 3000, 5000, 6000 matters. One venue had packed into 2500 in the room and 500 outside watching the thing on a TV. It has not given him the numbers to beat Mitt Romney at pre selection but those people will matter at the poll in November. If they back Romney he will win. Millions will vote republican on the day and claim to have voted democrat. Many independent’s will claim to have not voted at all.
Ron Paul is playing the long game. 2016+ Regardless of who wins in November your a country going bankrupt. Ron Paul, through Rand Paul and others, will be the the presiding officer over that process. His thousands of supporters will have matured a little. Half the military bases will be obsolete by then and technologically or strategically irrelevant.
Mitt may take on board some of the Austrian schools ideas and may even take Ron Paul into a significant position. That will help.
It’s the end game of Democrats to become the only political party in America.
The party will live on but only as a bad example and to preserve the image of a fair and balanced two party system.
“I never understood the reasons for a two party system.” >Hillary Clinton with Her reset button in Russia<
“Could George W. Bush Be the Last Republican President?”
That would only be if he was indeed a Republican. He was not in my view. He passed a pile of progressive Garbage that is equil to much of what the “left” has passed. It just “helps” other “friends” in the system.
I rather supposed to find the whiners on the liberal edge?!
It’s the Republican Party itself that decides whether it will have success or not and it will win when it stands for American values. Giving in and complaining are European ones, not American.
The GOP will indeed have to adapt its agenda a slight bit. But that does not mean it will lose its conservative substance. You can reach out to non-leftist gay people without questioning moral decency (I know very conservative gay people raising children and doing a great job on this). You can reach out to conservative, but anti-Islamist muslims. You can reach out to hard-working, faith-driven, family-loving Latinos.
And you can use the internet and new media for promoting a counter-culture to Hollywood. Just do it!
PS: The first ones to call for restrictive laws on immigration were Socialist Eugenicists. Conservatives should believe in human achievement and immigrants will contribute to it.
The first ones to call for restrictive laws on immigration were Socialist Eugenicists.
There’s the root of our problem – nobody has the faintest clue about American history anymore. Henry Cabot Lodge was not a “Socialist Eugenicist”.
If George W. Bush is the last Republican president, then we have another Idi Amin Dada, President for Life in the White House right now.
“It’s the culture, stupid.”
Nope. It’s still the economy, which means that it’s the banksters, stupid.
Red Faction or Blue Faction, nominally Republican or flagrantly National Socialist, the Vampire Squid guys have a lock on the “establishment.”
The avid (WTF?) pursuit of Jon Corzine’s MF Global “where’s all that money?” defalcation proves that NOBODY in our beautiful bipartisan Boot-On-Your-Neck Party permanent incumbency has any intention of protecting the private citizen’s property rights against the “cork-screwing, back-stabbing, and dirty dealing” perfumed pillagers masquerading as legitimate businessmen in the financial sector.
Dubbya’s time in office – with a Congress largely dominated by the Red Faction – recently spent eight years proving that the Republican Party is hideously corrupt, wasteful, ineffective, and stupid. Now we’ve got “Barry” Soebarkah (who never did change his legal name back to “Obama” after he was mailed off to Hawaii at age 10, a citizen in good standing of the Republic of Indonesia) demonstrating yet again that the National Socialist Democrat American Party (NSDAP) is all that – emphasis on “stupid” – and evil as well.
The only chance to steer the careening federal juggernaut away from the cliff’s edge is to impose real changes on the size and usurping scope of civil government in this nation, to restore the dollar to reliable function as a medium of exchange, and divorce politicians from the economy generally.
The Republican “establishment” is a pack of bought dogs, totally owned by the plunderers, and that’s their reason for squealing and evading and hating acknowledgement that without Ron Paul and the spirit of genuine adherence to the U.S. Constitution that he represents, their “Grand” old party becomes an irrelevancy.
The demographics don’t lie. The Etch-a-Sketch excites nobody in any of the key Republican constituencies. He’s the same old crap, not even warmed-over, and we’ve had it with this “do a Dole” idiocy on the part of what us old guys still like to call the “Rockefeller Republicans.”
It’s either Ron Paul at the head of the ticket this November or – by nominating the utterly unelectable Massachusetts Milksop – you damned fools in the Stupid Party will have handed the Kenyan Keynesian another four years to completely destroy our nation.
That’s called “treason,” folks.
Wrap your dessicated stinking minds around that, why don’tcha?