Six Dead Ideas Walking in Michael Medved’s Romney Zombie Wall Street Journal Op/Ed
Resident Evil: Extinction is a surprisingly entertaining action picture — and much better than the two previous films in the series, both of which should be skipped. I haven’t seen the fourth and fifth films but it wouldn’t surprise me if both suck. They probably just got lucky with this one.
5. Tea Partiers are expected to invest their time, money, and emotions in fatally-flawed campaigns.
“Many analysts cited by the New York Times, Washington Times and other prominent media sources continue to blame the Republican defeat in 2008 on the millions of conservative true believers who allegedly stayed home rather than vote for the notorious ‘RINO’ (Republican In Name Only) John McCain.”
Medved makes this argument as an artful refutation of a claim no one of consequence makes: if Romney is elected then it won’t be with Tea Partiers’ votes. This is another variation of the establishment Republicans’ condescending caricature of the apocalyptic Tea Party simpleton. Perhaps Medved thinks that Glenn Beck listeners won’t vote for Romney because we’re prepared to sit out the Obamalypse in bunkers with our dehydrated food, gold, and dog-eared back issues of Soldier of Fortune.
Actually Medved is clever to do this because it avoids the serious issue: many conservatives will be less enthusiastic to give their money, time, and emotions to Mitt Romney. They’ll certainly vote for him in the general election, but Team Mitt is likely to have a rougher time transforming Tea Partiers into meaningful Get-Out-The-Vote (GOTV) operations and fund-raisers.
Is that because conservatives don’t want Romney to beat Obama? No, it’s because (for reasons I’ll explain) they don’t expect victory. But who knows, maybe we’ll just get lucky with this one.
Next: Why would a talk radio conservative misrepresent Rush Limbaugh’s words? (Rhetorical question…)
“This isn’t said enough: in 2008 Romney was regarded as the conservative alternative to the “centrist” McCain.”
By who?
National Review endorsed him for the nomination in 2008.
I agree, Medved’s piece was dreadfully (and uncharacteristically) bad.
The funny thing is that a case can be made for Romney, even though he completly wiffed on the task. The issue isn’t that he’s the most electable — I continue to maintain that there are other candidates who would not only be more conservative, they would have been as or more electable. The problem is that no such candidate exists in the current race.
And to the extent Romney is more electable, his ideology has little to do with it. Romney is probably more electable than Newt because he doesn’t have Newt’s baggage (personal and otherwise), and more electable than Perry because he is a solid debater and not tied (fairly or not) in the public’s mind with George W Bush. And really, at least as to the former, he really isn’t any less conservative, so there doesn’t seem to be any advantage to taking a flyer on the riskier candidate.
That said, Romney isn’t getting my vote at this time. It’s one thing to vote for that ___ sandwich when the opponent is Obama, but as long as there is someone decent to vote for in the Primary they’ll get my vote even they have no chance of winning, so it’s Gary Johnson for me.
Great comment!
“As we finish up the remaining Thanksgiving bounty let us be grateful we do not live in a world overrun with hordes of mindless zombies.”
We do. They’re called Democrats.
“We do. They’re called Democrats.”
Just for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k
Dead idea walking: “Most voters are ideologues.”
For sure.
Back in the day I remember being dumbfounded by the number of my acquaintenances whose first choice for POTUS was Robert Kennedy & whose second choice was George Wallace or vice-versa. These people were attracted to both men’s activism and perception they were strong individuals who “could get things done”. Many (most?) people are comparatively naive about the left, right & center categories that many of us “sophisticated” (read cracker barrel) political philosophers take for granted.
Extinction, the G.M.O. Chronicles is a good Zombie movie.
The USA is fracturing along partisan lines, and repeating its short history. There have been been Two nation wide banking collapses ( not including the great depression as the banking system did no actually collapse)and we appear to be heading into a Third.
But more important is asking if Presidents birth certificate is fake, or how much superPAC money a GOP candidate received, etc, etc, etc.
The nation is speeding towards the cliff but instead of applying brakes, we keep pressing the accelerator down further.
I have not read Medved’s piece…..or all of this article. I stopped reading at this, because it is the clearest expression of how primary voters will act that I have seen.
Romney is toast because of the truth of this:-
“dreary second coming of John McCain—a hapless moderate…………
with no real chance to rally the conservative base”
HW, you are absolutely right. Obviously liberals will not vote for Romney but what happens when not all of the Conservatives vote for him either? 4 more years of Obama. This is exactly what happened with McCain and will happen again if we try an Obama-Lite candidate. I don’t know if any of you remember but in 2008 Michael Medved was absolutely transfixed on McCain and would not deviate from him. I stopped listening to him for over a year because of that. I suggest we ignore his advice this time.
Sure.
I should have been clearer – I meant toast in the nomination sense. He won’t stand a chance of beating Obama, not least because he won’t be the candidate.
watch these :
http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2011/12/01/a-tale-of-two-gop-presidential-candidates/
Newt – the video is more interesting than the article. The video shows why he may well appeal to a lot of independents and blue collar AMERICA voters.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/gingrich-tells-abc-news-im-going-to-be-the-nominee/?wpisrc=nl_pmfix
Newt – Obama is the target. Obama is now polling lower than Jimmy Carter. This is the gas in Newt’s tank. I don’t see the same gas in the others’.
I particularly liked your discussion of so-called independents in the context of the legacy media’s constant assumption that they are half way between the Republican and Democrat wings of the Progressive Party. It is not so, it never has been so, and I am thrilled that you said so.
Mr. Swindle,
I’m with ‘Ceteris Paribus’ camp/mindset etc.,
I’ve been a Conservative Independent for 18 of my 36 years.
I’d like to add, ‘Shaun of the Dead’ and ‘Dead Snow’ (Nazi zombies.. awesome!) in your must-see Walking Dead genre. Awesome flicks.
Have to disagree with you on ‘Superbad’. I tried watching though 10-15 minutes into it I had to turn it off. The same story for ‘Knocked Up’, 5 minutes into ‘Protect & Serve’ 4 minutes into ‘Funny People’ and 3 minutes into ‘Green Hornet’. Just thankful Bruce Lee didn’t have to hear/see the last one.
Seth Rogen’s been in the aforementioned stinkers. He has to be the most unfunny person to be considered funny. Well, besides Bill Maher (BTW Seth Rogen was in the sic-fi flick, ‘Paul’. Even with Shaun of the Dead stars Simon Pegg & Nick Frost.. it was blah as well).
‘Night of the Comet’ not to be confused with the equally campy
‘Year of the Comet’ >:)
Actually, the introduction to ‘Wall-e’ might be more appropriate,
with everything falling apart, and TPTB scurrying to escape.
Question: If things get as bad as I expect (surrounded by zombies)
will not the people of the US demand a certain response from whoever
gets elected, without regard to that person’s political philosophy ?
Mr. Medved is uncommonly bright, in easy command of fact, and he has a memory that is uncanny. When I can I listen to Rush Limbaugh and then switch stations to hear Michael Medved. But I am always struck by the contrast. Limbaugh is animated by principle and Medved by uninspired (and uninspiring) pragmatism. What good is principled conservatism, Mr. Medved asks, if you lose an election? A fair question, one might say. But let me put another question: if I try to save someone who is drowning, mightn’t I risk losing my life? Praxis vs. principle. I don’t mean to suggest that Mr. Medved would not act selflessly or argue with certainty that Mr. Limbaugh would.
The latter question is metaphorical, but it would seem to apply to the political scene and to the differences between the two hosts. As a thought experiment, imagine who would be more likely to make this statement: If the Republicans run a competent campaign, clearly articulating conservative ideas, and they lose after a fair hearing, so be it. Perhaps the ideas will live beyond the campaign and take root to inform the next election. If not, then we are beyond help anyway. We stood on principle.
Medved is generally dismissive of contrary opinions. Whether one agrees with him from time to time or not, his arguments are heavily weighted with attitude.
He is quick to discredit the motives of opponents. I recall his radio show during the debates over amnesty in ’07. Vociferously in favor of Bush’s efforts to push comprehensive immigration reform, Medved routinely referred to his adversaries (who constituted a majority of the American people) as bigots,
nativists and racists. His words, not mine.
The irony of his recent arguments is that many of the conservatives who either sat out the ’08 presidential election or voted for third party candidates, or even for Obama, was that these conservatives knew that McCain, despite his protestations to the contrary, would push for an amnesty if elected. The reason no amnesty has been passed under Obama is simply that the R’s have been unified against it. Does anyone doubt that the R party would have been torn apart on this issue under McCain as it was under Bush?
This is precisely why many conservatives and patriots will never support Gingrich, who is a McCain/Bush/Kennedy cone when it comes to illegal immigration. In ’08, with the margin of victory so great, this sub-group of voters probably had little impact on the election. In ’12 however, its likely to be a closer race. An open-borders, amnesty candidate like Gingrich cannot be elected if these conservatives once again don’t show up at the polls.
Medved is generally dismissive of contrary opinions. Whether one agrees with him from time to time or not, his arguments are heavily weighted with attitude.
He is quick to discredit the motives of opponents. I recall his radio show during the debates over amnesty in ’07. Vociferously in favor of Bush’s efforts to push comprehensive immigration reform, Medved routinely referred to his adversaries (who constituted a majority of the American people) as bigots,
nativists and racists. His words, not mine.
The irony of his recent arguments is that many of the conservatives who either sat out the ’08 presidential election or voted for third party candidates, or even for Obama, was that these conservatives knew that McCain, despite his protestations to the contrary, would push for an amnesty if elected. The reason no amnesty has been passed under Obama is simply that the R’s have been unified against it. Does anyone doubt that the R party would have been torn apart on this issue under McCain as it was under Bush?
This is precisely why many conservatives and patriots will never support Gingrich, who is a McCain/Bush/Kennedy clone when it comes to illegal immigration. In ’08, with the margin of victory so great, this sub-group of voters probably had little impact on the election. In ’12 however, its likely to be a closer race. An open-borders, amnesty candidate like Gingrich cannot be elected if these conservatives once again don’t show up at the polls.
NOt to state the obvious, but what was the point of the use of the Zombie metaphor? It is the trite pop cultural go to position of the day. J. Goldburg stumbles into it from time to time. Luckily i’m an excellent skimmer and glossed over the inanities. As for your central idea… wait! I only remember the walking dead grafted on. Sorry.