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Tayyip Erdogan’s Cave of Wonders

February 28th, 2013 - 6:12 pm

What Gulen means by science is of an entirely different order than the Western understanding. This “imam from rural Anatolia,” as his website describes him, inhabits the magical world of jinns and sorcery. Science is just a powerful form of magic of which Turks should avail themselves to enhance their power, as he writes in his 2005 book The Essentials of the Islamic Faith:

Jinn are conscious beings charged with divine obligations. Recent discoveries in biology make it clear that God created beings particular to each realm. They were created before Adam and Eve, and were responsible for cultivating and improving the world. Although God superseded them with us, he did not exempt them from religious obligations.

As nothing is difficult for God almighty, he has provided human beings, angels and jinns with the strength appropriate for their functions and duties. As he uses angels to supervise the movements of celestial bodies, he allows to humans to rule the Earth, dominate matter, build civilizations and produce technology.

Power and strength are not limited to the physical world, nor are they proportional to bodily size … Our eyes can travel long distances in an instant. Our imagination can transcend time and space all at once … winds can uproot trees and demolish large buildings. A young, thin plant shoot can split rocks and reach the sunlight. The power of energy, whose existence is known through its effect, is apparent to everybody. All of this shows that something’s power is not proportional to its physical size; rather the immaterial world dominates the physical world, and immaterial entities are far more powerful than material ones.

He goes on to warn about sorcery and the danger of spells; he allows that it is meritorious to break spells (for evil witches are everywhere casting spells), although a good Muslim should not make a profession of this, for then he might be mistaken for a sorcerer himself. The notion that “wind” and “energy” are “immaterial” forces exudes the magical world view of an Anatolian peasant; the miracles of technology are the secret actions of jinn, just as the planetary movements are the actions of angels. When Gulen talks about the union of religion and science, what he means quite concretely is that the magical view of jinns in the Koran aids the believer in enlisting these “immaterial” forces to enhance the power of Islam. Science for Gulen simply means the management of jinn. By our standards he is mad as a march hare.

Gulen is a shaman, a relic of pre-history preserved in the cultural amber of eastern Anatolia. Kemalism was sterile, brutal, secular and rational; the “moderate Islam” of Gulen is magical, a mystic’s vision of Ottoman restoration and a pan-Turkic caliphate. Erdogan, his acolyte, lives in a world where witches and jinn mix with Zionists and “Islamophobes.” American presidents would do well to find a better class of friends.

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So the US is not alone in having an ignorant leader! And both having overlapping ignorance, how nice!
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More properly, should he get his way, Kurdish Genocide. That appears to be in the works.
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Two words:

Armenian genocide.

That's the "greatness" he wants to go back to.
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Canadian cable tv airs any number of utterly ludicrous programs about UFOs, Conspiracy theories, haunted houses, etc. One such channel is our so-called History channel! It airs utter junk (if one is an ignoramus, an illiterate and believes in jinns and magic -- well, that's tragic -- but if one advances, under a guise of so-called skepticism (as if one were a legitimate "researcher") an utterly bogus thesis -- this is FRAUD. It is designed so as to deceive the viewer. And yet this is what appears on television.
I think Carl Sagon and Martin Gardner would be rolling in their graves to discover how the West, itself (never mind the idiocy of Islam), is destroying the very foundations of modernity. Btw, Carl Sagan's "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" (1997) is available in PDF for free. (Another excellent text against pseudoscience is Martin Gardner's "Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science" (1952). Gardner included an entire chapter on Scientology -- still an excellent source).
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Neither Martin Gardner nor Carl Sagan were atheists. Sagan was an agnostic. I don't believe science and religion are incompatible. (I thoroughly dislike the popular cult of atheists -- I believe they harm not only religion but science as well. They do damage to both subjects. The biologist Stephen Jay Gould, IMO, offered some of wisest observations about science and religion.)
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"I will say again because it needs repeating. Islam is NOT uniquely unsuited to the modern world. Crazy Jews and Christians are equally unsuited."

So much the worse for the 'modern world', then, however you choose to define it. All three have outlasted many a "modern world" that smugly assumed its permanence. This one too shall pass. Berman has a clue:
http://www.amazon.com/Reenchantment-World-Morris-Berman/dp/0801492254 So does Wimsett: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0674015452/
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Thanks Spengler for this important info!
Even may be being kommunist in our youth, being antikommunist now,
who knows what next,
we were always kind of scientific in the sense of physics rules.

Believing in anatolian or other witches is for us the path downward for mankind.
frank
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This just shows me that Obama is incapable of differentiating between good and evil; between friends and enemies and between those who support the U.S. and those who wish to destroy the U.S. This is what we get when we have the first Affirmative Action President; a man who has been given a free ride most of his life. Is it any wonder that his college transcripts are hidden? Is it any wonder that aside from his ghost written books there is not one single article that has his name on it? Barry is a sham, a liar and a thief; he stole the minds of half the country who voted for him.
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There's a sit-com here: "I Dream of Djinn-Djinn. A clown at a run down circus in Anatolia finds a bottle with a beautiful magic woman from old Samarkand and becomes prime minister by wishing it. Starring Burcu Gunes. I'd watch it just for her - with the sound off.
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He has been consuming too much gin.
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So the US is not alone in having an ignorant leader! And both having overlapping ignorance, how nice!
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Stupid, crazy, and evil is no way to go through life.
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These thoughts remind me of the thoughts of the Marin County "New Agers" - just change the magic words and the magic thinking is the same.
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I wonder if Erdogan noticed the contradiction between his two examples of "crimes against humanity". Turkish assimilation into other cultures is a crime, he says. Presumably Jewish assimilation into other cultures would be a crime , too. Israel exists so that Jews do not have to assimilate elsewhere, which of course they were, and are, not always permitted to do. But the existence of Israel (Zionism) is, for Erdogan, a crime. The implication of Erdogan's logic is that Jews should not be permitted to live anywhere.

I wonder for how long Obama is going to consider this new Hitler a friend.
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"I wonder for how long Obama is going to consider this new Hitler a friend."

Permanently.
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Two words:

Armenian genocide.

That's the "greatness" he wants to go back to.
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More properly, should he get his way, Kurdish Genocide. That appears to be in the works.
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Besides that, he'd just love to expand the Muslim footprint in the Balkans.

With plenty of help from the Bosnian, Albanian, and Kosovar Muslims.
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