What Would Egypt’s Morsi Have to Do to Get Disinvited by Obama — Eat Babies?
Morsi just released 25 leaders of terrorist organizations jailed for violent attacks, an al-Qaeda leader announced July 21:
Mohamed al-Zawahiri, brother of Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, has said that the 572 military detainees pardoned by President Mohamed Morsy on Thursday included 25 leaders of Islamic Jihad and Jama’a al-Islamiya [Sheikh Abdul Rahman's organization].
He said the decree did not pardon those involved in cases dating back to 1994 that involve the activities of militants who fought the government of ousted President Hosni Mubarak in an insurgency in the early 1990s.
It also excluded the defendents in the so-called Zeitoun Trial, who were accused of membership in an unspecified terrorist organization that staged the armed robbery of a jewelry shop in May 2008 in Cairo’s Zeitoun district, and planned to attack Suez Canal, he said.
Cases that the judiciary is still considering, such as those of Mostafa Hamza, Refaee Taha and Shawky al-Islamboly, were not included either, Zawahiri said.
No responsible American official — let alone the president — should sit down with terrorists. The only Americans they should meet are clandestine services personnel with weapons. America should employ its covert resources to eradicate the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Jama’a al-Islamiya, and other violent jihadist organizations.
Of course, that’s just my personal opinion. Others may disagree about the merits of hunting down and killing terrorists who plot mass murder of Americans and our allies. But it won’t sit well with most American voters for their president to roll out the red carpet to the buddies of the people who tried to bring down the World Trade Center. The number of liberals who believe that our colonialist sins somehow justify the homicidal rage of jihadists is very, very small.
The February 1993 WTC bombing killed six people and injured more than 1,000. Had it been successful, it would have murdered many thousands. Here’s a thought: When Mohamed Morsi turns up at the White House, Rep. Bachmann could lead a demonstration outside. Hold up pictures of the six victims. Bring their families and some of the injured Americans to talk to the media. Make it personal. Put the onus on Obama. Our dead and injured deserve better than to see the perpetrators’ friends welcomed at the White House. If Sen. McCain wants to organize a counter-demonstration to support the Muslim Brotherhood, that’s his right. See how that goes down with the voters in Arizona.
“What would Morsi have to do to get disinvited? Eat babies?”
Possible answers: 1. As a small business owner, open a Chick-Fil-A franchise; 2. Get a Likud member party card; 3. Support a strike on Iranian WMD facilities; 4. Agree to make/keep a peace treaty with Israel and act as an American ally against extremism in the Middle East; 5. Start a campaign against female genital mutilation;
I would vote…… Chick-Fil-A…….
Though another good bet would be to take a cabstand at the airport and compel fares to either pour the wine out on the sidewalk or put the four-legged child in the boot. The first would bring a real frown, the latter will definitely give you the kick…..’>……….
Here’s the deal – the die has already been cast, but that doesn’t mean that we (those who care about America and Israel) have to make it any easier for them.
My commentary penned this morning addresses these same matters. Read, ‘Northeast Intelligence Network…Examining the Origins & the Ruins of the ‘Arab Spring’ & Its Aftermath…..’
Read it at my blog -www.adinakutnicki.com
It’s the result of Huma Abedin, Clinton’s chief of staff, and Rashed Hussain who is Obama’s mid-East advisor. It’s easy to figure out.
“No responsible American official — let alone the president — should sit down with terrorists. The only Americans they should meet are clandestine services personnel with weapons. America should employ its covert resources to eradicate the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Jama’a al-Islamiya, and other violent jihadist organizations.”
This is the worst thing to do, to give them more drama. These aren’t a bunch of obedient patriots with a few bad eggs in charge. The Muslim Brotherhood is a demographic wave, and democratic in the pejorative sense of the word. They are also the most skilled assassins in the world, the originals, and they would retaliate in kind a hundred times over. Multicultural Western nations are very soft targets.
The Nelson Mandela (or Yasser Arafat, if you prefer) strategy might be as good as any. Release the terrorists and turn them into saints, complete with Nobel prizes, and they rapidly learn to appreciate the international prestige and elitism that comes with “redemption” and progress. To the most dangerous psychos, it’s all an ego trip. Satisfy the ego to disarm them, even Bill Ayers. The demographic problem just solves itself in the long run, unless paleocons want to take a short cut.
“The number of liberals who believe that our colonialist sins somehow justify the homicidal rage of jihadists is very, very small.”
But they are the ones who teach our children, especially the elites. And, women absolutely love the lawbreakers, especially the young fertile ones. The Nobel prizes and big international parties and diplomatic meetings and correspondence and cooperation, ALL SERVE TO MAKE THE TERRORISTS IMPOTENT. When their ego is fattened and satisfied, the edge goes away and popular support with it. It allows them to trade one kind of sexual appeal for a safer alternative. The neocon strategy of directly fighting back simply fails because it does not understand what appeals to human nature, most especially female nature.
Mr. Game, if you’re serious and this is not a poorly written (or poorly understood) satire, you are a nitwit.
It is possibly the dumbest thing I’ve seen on the Internet this month.
Nah, this is pretty much his whole schtick. Higher Game is very much a one-issue guy – not that there’s anything wrong with that!
Long, drawn out, melodramatic road maps and prisoner exchanges and ridiculous bauble awards and tense dialogues have been very successful for Israel. And Palestine. The US could learn from it.
The biggest lesson in 21st century geopolitics might be that the world really doesn’t need a real policeman, just ghosts and rituals for ghosts.
What we need is a total commitment to freedom and liberty – if a terrorist group attacks Americans or ‘declares a jihad’ or whatever against us, we use the full might and resources of our country to annihilate and destroy them wherever they may be. Physically destroy them, attack their infrastructure and assets – completely wipe them out. We used to call that Unconditional Surrender in WWII and prior conflicts. We need to get back to that level of commitment. But, just after September 11th, the left and other sissy-ass, mooslim-loving, anti-Americans will slowly whittle away at our resolve through the MSM with never ending, sorrowful, pitiful examples of ‘good people’ caught up in the violence. That’s what we call ‘collateral damage’ and try as we might to mitigate it, there is no way to completely eliminate it when the terrorists intentionally hide behind women and children. The recent revelations of just how deeply imbedded they are in our government already is terrifying because they are using the Clintons and others as dupes. THEY DO NOT WANT TO WORK AND LIVE WITH US IN PEACE. They are intentionally trying to manipulate us from within. We have to clean house in November or we are in very deep trouble. It is time to choose a side – Either you put America first, or you do not.
Indeed. What it begets is a never ending string of terrorist organizations lined up for the red carpet treatment. Violent extremism as the ticket to international fame and fortune.
Blow up schoolchildren of the religio-ethnic group you dont like and get a Nobel Peace Prize and swanky dinners at the UN.
“They are also the most skilled assassins in the world, the originals, and they would retaliate, . . .”?
Yeah, we might as well just wet our pants. ‘Cause, we sure don’t want to make ‘em mad—now, do we?
The only reason we don’t stomp Saudi Arabia is because they’ve already infiltrated us. I suspect that Gaddafi actually let his international fame go to his head, and he neglected the espionage strategies that let him survive; he let the secret balance of power slip too far because of his drunken ego. Indulging these kinds of people worked in the case of Libya. It’s too bad the West wanted oil, not peace.
I heard that puppy was on the menu.
How long before Michelle is kissing the Egyptian version of Suha Arafat?
By the way, I briefly met a bunch of somewhat suspicious Sudanese in Arizona.
Looks like McCain may be importing voters from further away than just Mexico.
Way to represent your state, there, Johnny.
America really needs to repeal the 17th Amendment.
“When Mohamed Morsi turns up at the White House, Rep. Bachmann could lead a demonstration outside. Hold up pictures of the six victims. Bring their families and some of the injured Americans to talk to the media.”
If it would be reported at all it would only be to discredit Bachmann. The media is not a service or a tool but an active enemy of all that is descent and honorable. Its current form needs to be not just countered but destroyed through non-consumption.
If I like the MSM I wouldn’t be posting here at PJ. Fox News would interview the WTC victims, for example — it wouldn’t be entirely suppressed.
Even Boss Murdoch is calling for gun control these days. Seems like FNC has been thoroughly neutered due to the phone hacking scandal or other factors.
Read your Ulsterman Report (aka White House/Wall Street/Military Insider) and Doug Hagmann, folks, it’s not a pretty picture.
I should add the caveat here that if you want fact and reality based reporting from Fox, you can still sometimes find it (along with Judge Napolitano) on the Fox Business Channel. The rest is dumbed down Red State infotainment delivered by attractive blondes.
An interesting thread about Tish B’Av (the 9th of Av) and fears connected to Saturday related to the lax security that Mitt Romney recently criticized surrounding the Olympic games, notwithstanding the massive military buildup around London. But mostly about Jewish traditions surrounding this day of mourning for the destruction of the two temples, first by the Babylonians and then by the Romans and their brutal suppression of the Bar Kochba revolt:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/religion-spirituality/1647312-tisha-bav-possible-olympic-tragedy.html
Make that bleach blondes.
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It’s a confusing world. Rupert said a year ago As goes Israel, so goes Western Civilization, and he’s right. But yet his Fox channels are Jihad-friendly; they totally accept the centrally important fantastic notion that Moderate Moslems actually exist. So, Rupert must want an Ummah toned down enough to let Israel continue to exist as a bunker state.
If I like the MSM I wouldn’t be posting here at PJ. Fox News would interview the WTC victims, for example — it wouldn’t be entirely suppressed.
Effective propaganda works all the time without totality. It’s not a matter of purity; it’s a matter of what gets sold, what opinions are formed. Isolated disagreement rendered diminutive in frequency and scope serves to make the predominant agitprop more effective. I remember talking to a Russian exchange student in college. She said, “Over there, the state tells obvious lies and almost nobody believes them. Here, the lies are softer and feel good to the emotions, and almost everybody believes them.”
We’ve evolved from the USSR to Fox.
The richest Saudi prince – al Waleed, I think (in any case, the one who was told by Mayor Giuliani to shove his $10 million donation-with-strings after 9/11) — has a major stake in News Corp, no?
The Obummers also own some News Corp. stock via an investment fund.
Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
But as far as “it won’t sit well with most American voters for their president to roll out the red carpet to the buddies of the people who tried to bring down the World Trade Center.” Most Americans will not know this because MSM will not tell them. All they’ll know is “the President of Egypt visited the White House”.
Well the official US policy now is “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.” So from the perspective of the US government they are welcoming a “freedom fighter.”
“The number of liberals who believe that our colonialist sins somehow justify the homicidal rage of jihadists is very, very small.”
Judging from recent results, liberals will believe what the rich and powerful want them to believe. The current elite belief seems to be that giving the MB power will emasculate it and transform it into a platform for personal political power (which is one of the uses of our political parties). Under this view, presumably the MB leadership will develop the same contempt for the institutions of their culture that our leaders have for ours.
Obama will probably have Morsi come through the front door as well. He might as well invite all the enemies of our country and have a bbq. Lets see hamas, hezbollah, islamic jihad, al queda, taliban, etc. He could then have his advisors from academia plead with these terrorist groups to be nice to us. Maybe they will even get some American tax payer money for playing nice. Geez!
Leave that to Homeland Security.
Halal hot dogs, anyone?
What would Morsi have to do to get disinvited?
Morsi would have to suggest to Obama that the world has never had and will not in the foreseeable future have any energy shortage. Then, Morsi could educate Obama on how technology solved perceived energy shortages in the past and will again in the future. That would shock Obama and get Morsi disinvited.
China is sitting on 200 years of energy in the form of shale gas and nobody recalculated valuations by country since that technology came on the scene. New technology will exploit energy even below shale rock. How much is there? A lot. And the sun can pitch in for the years 200 to ~.
Peak oil is akin to towering piles of horse shit in cities at the turn of the previous century…they didn’t know, what they didn’t know.
Off topic, but maybe not.
“What would Morsi have to do to get disinvited?”
He would have to lose popularity and power. That’s what matters.
I would argue that only Oprah can take away Morsi’s popularity and power. If Oprah and Morsi were to stroke each other then he would have to be counted as a sellout. Follow up with Charlie Sheen. Morsi would be done.
What would Pres. Morsi have to do in order that Obama disinvites him? Two things, one humorously trival, the other humorously lethal. Deed 1. Morsi announces from Egypt on Egyptian and CNN tv that he supports Romney for the presidency of the USA. Deed 2. Morsi announces that he ackowledges the right of existence of Israel as the homeland of the nation of Jews and, accordingly, support Israel over the Palestinians.
The first deed would but tweek Obama’s campaign interests. Irritating, but not revealing anything about Obama’s “real” desires relative to Brotherhood Islam. A surprise because such a presidential preference is not expected. The second deed, if it provoked Obama to disinvited Morsi, would no longer be humorous of, it so, a lethal joke. Why? The second deed with a disinvite would reveal a hostile stance by Obama towards Israel and, indirectly, towards America itself. Morsi’s hypothetical stance would indicate a radical change in Brotherhood policy that would displease Obama. Only a hypothesis and nothing more! What am I hinting at?
The more Obama affirms Brotherhood and terrorist types, the more I am tempted to believe that Obama is not pursuing a misguided policy, rather the one he wants. In other words, I am coming to suspect that Obama actually favors the Brotherhood and terrorists. For afterall, Brotherhoood Islam is as anti-Israeli and anti-American as the beliefs of Black Liberation Theology out of which Obama oozes. Am I saying that Obama really is as I would suspect? No, Morsi has done nothing to be disinvited. My extreme second deed was suggested simply in order bring out into the field of consideration the “really real” reasons behind Obama’s invites. I find it more and more difficult everyday not to believe in nefarious motivations on the part of Obama, although I prefer to view him as a foreign policy “amateur”. Am I alone with my suspicions?
Golda Meir took the best approach in her war on terror: real counter-terror. Send around the world a number of the death squads in plain clothes of highly-trained professionals to exterminate terror leaders. This does not matter how popular Hezbolla, Hamas or Muslim Brotherhood are. Cut of the head of a snake, and the body will die soon. Even million-strong body of dumb religious fanatics is powerless without smart leadership. It is highly experienced terror masterminds who are the real treat. Kill, kill and kill everybody in Arab world with advanced learning, technical skills and IQ higher 120, involved in terrorist activity. There are not many of them, anyway. Others will not be of much importance or concern.
“Golda Meir took the best approach in her war on terror: real counter-terror. Send around the world a number of the death squads in plain clothes of highly-trained professionals to exterminate terror leaders”.
That’s like playing chess with a focus on capturing your opponent’s pawns. Significant terror groups usually depend on w/o state sponsors.
Actually, in chess, a pawn advantage — or even less than that, i.e. a better square for an important piece — is often enough to win for a skillful player. It is weaker players who go all-out to attack the enemy king regardless of the position, usually losing as a result. I am not saying the analogy necessarily applies to the real world, but surely the fact that terrorists need to worry about their own lives is an important deterrant.
I’m just a few steps up from a chess dabbler, but it is classic beginner’s chess to jump on an apparently vulnerable pawn or to look just a few moves ahead in an attempt to capture pawns, w/o reference to a larger strategy. As I am sure many readers are aware, the better chess players focus on development and controlling a central position (as you indicated) in the early and mid- game and then have to know how to achieve check-mate in the end-game. If this is true in chess, how much more so in geo-politics?
I’m not trying to suggest that Israeli overt and covert tactical operations are necessarily unconnected to a larger strategy, just that discussions about proposed operations (such as assassinations of terrorist leaders) should be focused on the enemy’s elusive “center-of-gravity”.
Of course Israel, due to various circumstances, has a hard time translating tactical success into strategic effect.
The only way to go..
The only thing they’ll understand.
The French have an expression for this method.
They call it..
“Pour Encourager Les Autres “
If GLAAD, Jewish and women’s and Christian’s groups got together and issued a joint statement about a group that despises Jews, from a country that will not allow a woman or Christian to be President and which held a mass trial of 50 gay men a decade ago for being gay, Morsi would be disinvited.
Although clearly a worse enemy than Christians, for now gay groups will continue to have their R-rated Jesus contest in SF and raid docile Christian churches. It’s safer and doesn’t threaten a Dem partner.
Feminist groups will toe a party line.
Most Jews in America will toe a party line.
Middle-of-the-road Christian groups will not chance the label of Islamophobia.
We’re undone. Stop pussyfooting around and call for an end to all immigration. If you’re unwilling to do that you’re fighting only with your feet.
Political correctness is a confluence of race-based critical pedagogy, lazy Marxism, and progressive thought. Any failure by a non-Rainbow Coalition member is laid elsewhere – that is the fundamental platform of this political thought.
It is deeply embedded in our bureaucracy, schools and gov’t. It cannot be fought. All you can do is stop the flow of new victims or watch your culture be a victim itself. It’s a conscious choice. But the defeat is already in place. Call for an end to immigration and you’ll be fitted with a white hood, marginalized, no votes and end of story. Just stick a fork in it and make apology videos to your great-great-great grandchildren for them not being able to reverse engineer a safety pin.
“end to all immigration”
So you want to prevent hardworking Polish mechanics, Indian engineers and Philippina nurses from immigrating to the US?
Work as hard as you want. It won’t change the fact there’s only so many people you can fit into a phone booth. We had 200 million in 1960 and now over 300 million.
Does that fact make our lives better? How? How many men can a single general effectively control, how many people can be effectively governed? What is the goal of immigration? California and the wild West have long ago been tamed. Why do we need more people? What’s the point? How much water do we have? How many massive land fills? And all to what purpose?
Yes, end all immigration. Our new demo stinks and demonstrably so. Cap our population and kick out the illegals. Either that or just give the car keys to the Third World and move to Mars.
Take the long view of this; extrapolate that last 30 years 100 years into the future. If that makes you optimistic, fine. I see a nightmare of unexceptional groups voting by race because they are being politicized and radicalized by race by liberals to explain the very simple fact that Latin America is in fact an unexceptional place. This is not rocket science. Build on success, keep out failure. Read about the Anaheim riots this very day. That is America’s future.
If it’s a question of a full “phone booth”, would you also want steps to cap U.S. population at a certain level?
As long as immigrants assimilate what is the difference between natural population growth and immigration?
Are talented and hardworking immigrants a plus or a minus?
BTW, it’s my subjective observation that a sad and impressive number of U.S. casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan have been immigrants or the children of immigrants.
“If it’s a question of a full “phone booth”, would you also want steps to cap U.S. population at a certain level?”
Yes, I would want to persuade people to stop over-breeding and let the population slloooowwwlly drop to more practical levels at the same time encouraging people to develop technology to cope with the over-crowding and over-population. (This is in contrast to current policy of demanding that people be packed in as tightly as physically possible, removing green space between homes, abusing regulation and taxes to cram people into “condos”, etc. which the lefties call “in-fill”.) Make people aware that farm and forest and ranch and hunting land IS developed and in use, more or less at the levels the land can support, and provides food, minerals, fuel, cleaner air, and temporary relief from the oppressive over-crowding of the city-dwellers.
Arafat declared invasion and over-breeding as an overt tactic for Muslims to take over Europe.
“As long as immigrants assimilate what is the difference between natural population growth and immigration?”
You can use persuasion and mere “calling attention” to convince the locals not to over-breed. But that doesn’t work for immigration. People living in places that have a culture that encourages over-breeding will want to invade to occupy that “sparsely populated” place, and overcome the local’s culture in the process.
“Are talented and hardworking immigrants a plus or a minus?”
Yes… some of both plus and minus; it depends on the individuals and the situation.
How talented? How industrious? How intelligent? How knowledgeable? How honest? How peaceable?
Right now, the USA has extremely low standards for foreign students (F visas, with and without OPT, and J visas), extremely low standards for guest-workers (E-3, the aforementioned OPT, H, J, L, O, P… visas), and extremely low standards for immigrants (especially when you factor in the shift in 1965 to prioritize “family re-unification”). And when you take into account the federal government’s active resistance to discouraging illegal immigration and removing illegal aliens since the 1950s, the standards might as well not exist at all.
Faisal Shahzad had F, OPT, H-1B, green card, and citizenship without ever so much as passing a proper background investigation. He wasn’t a very good student. He showed no above-average work-talent or industriousness. And, thank God, totally bungled his attempt to blow up Times Square.
Jgo – It seems to me that your multiple use of the term “breeding” to refer to humans bearing and raising children places us on separate sides of an important divide formed by the Judeo-Christian outlook on these matters.
Regarding the relationship of weak demographics to prosperity and ultimately to faith, you might wish to glance at our host’s piece in FT: “The message that our children are our wealth, and that families are its custodian, might resonate all the more strongly for the manifest failure of the alternatives (http://www.firstthings.com/article/2009/05/demographics–depression-1243457089)”.
You are right. Our new demographics stink. The Judeo-Christian principles and values that most of us grew up with are being eroded at an alarming rate. The calibre and quality of people in this country are declining rapidly.
I used to be that poor Americans would reject hand-outs in favor of hard work and the dignity that comes with it. Accepting hand-outs was shameful. No more. People would take pride in what little they had and take care of their homes, furnishings, and other belongings, and keep themselves neat and presentable. We now have a nation of slobs. Just go to Wal-Mart and see the eye-sores that shop there. It’s disgusting.
With the decline in religious belief and everyone making up their own moral code, no behavior is taboo or discouraged. We are in a cultural crisis, and I see it only getting worse. Our kids have been taught that they’re never wrong and that they are entitled to everything without ever earning anything. We are raising monsters and these are the people who will eventually take over the reins in this country. God help us. I’m glad that I’m in the last third of my life. I don’t want to live in the country that we’re evolving into.
The correct answer is: There is nothing Morisi would normally do that would get him scratched from the White House, unless Senator Feinstein refuses to keep her whining mouth shut about all those White House intelligence leaks unless Morisi is scratched.
Disinvite Mursi!!??
Remember that Obama has a close adviser that is an MB operative … and many others in and around the administrative structure. CAIR, ISNA, Ellison et al would all be on the POTUS rear if he disinvited Morsi; because that would be, in effect, saying that all his MB operatives are also murdering B’tards, and Obama would probably lose the Muslim vote; lots of Muslims on the eastern seabord.
Politics above country … what a shame that we’ve allowed this to happen.
Convert to Christianity and become the head of a newly created Constitutionally Christian nation?
Disinvite him?
The O has been working so hard since his first days in office to bring the MB to power. It has been so very crystal clear from day one that he is philo-MB.
It’s O’s grand achievement — he’s celebrating.
Maybe if Morsi said, “Allah Almighty but your ugly wife has got a big a-ss!”
He can declare himself to be a zionist. That’ll be enough to disinvite him from the hopey-changey gang.
It tells you a lot that Obama wants to actually meet and embrace the Muslim Brotherhood. This also explains his terrible relationship with Israel. Even before Obama was in college, he was brought up by communists who probably didn’t have a decent thing to say about Jews, let alone the Israelis. The Soviet Union always hated Israel, so it’s not that much of a stretch to believe that Obama’s communist parents and mentors promoted the arab “struggle” and denigrated Israel’s right to exist. Well, now Obama and the communists (as well as the American socialists) have their wet dream come true, by having the radical Muslim Brotherhood taking over Egypt. No wonder Obama is beaming. The only thing Obama would like better is for the Camp David treaty being torn up and thrown away by the Muslim Brotherhood. That would make his “victory” complete.
I can’t think of any reason why a Jew in America would vote for Obama. With Iran about to get a nuclear weapon and with the Muslim Brotherhood just aching to attack Israel, it is not inconceivable that Israel’s very existence will be in question if Obama gets a second term in office. To all you American Jews out there, is this what YOU really want for Israel? I don’t think so. A vote for Obama could be a vote for the destruction of Israel, a vote not even Congress will be able to save if Iran gets its nuclear weapon. Think long and hard about that. If you want to protect Israel, throw Obama out of office in November. It could be your last chance to save Israel.
I don’t understand your point. What does any of this have to do with Eleanor Roosevelt?
Re:”The Soviet Union always hated Israel, so it’s not that much of a stretch to believe that Obama’s communist parents and mentors promoted the arab “struggle” and denigrated Israel’s right to exist.” Countries don’t like or dislike other countries, they simply have interests. And despite the top-down anti-semitism in the SU, Stalin voted in UN for the establishment of Israel.
Not all Soviets. Stalin helped the nascent state of Israel with a boatload of Czech (and leftover German) arms. He apparently thought the kibbutzim would eventually drift into the socialist camp or at least become like Finland. Didn’t happen. In revenge he started finding phantom plots among Jewish doctors.
Still you’re mostly correct about the pattern set since 1967. That’s what makes the latest wooing of Putin and vice versa (the JPost quoted Putin as saying he hopes for the eventual restoration of the Temple, waxing about Jerusalem, betcha you didn’t hear any of that on Fox, Heritage, AEI, etc?)
If Obama gets reelected, expect the Israel-Russia relationship to get more public, as a way of sending messages to the White House. Both Jerusalem and Moscow have no particular love for the Demintern, leftist globalists, the Muslim Brotherhood the State Dept. has been working so hard to woo, or George Soros.
Glad we made it through the 9th of Av without something happening at the Olympics.
Stalin supported the creation of the state of Israel as it would help drive the British out of the ME. Incidental to that was the hope that another socialist/communist nation would arise. Alas for him although most prominent communists were Jews, most Jews were not communists. ben Gurion was a pragmatist 1st and foremost. He borrowed from any system that let him build a strong state.
Eat Christian babies?
Eat at Chick-Fil-A.
No responsible American official — let alone the president — should sit down with terrorists.
But somehow that’s the way it is now. We don’t negotiate with terrorists, except the Taliban. And Fatah. And Hamas. And now the Mo-Bro-Hood. It’s the case that our gubmint, steered by addled globo-socialists from the Ivy League, has adopted the policy that some terrorists are more negotiable than others. Especially if they control a region. And we fund them, the terrorist leaders unable to feed and clothe their Moslem populations, who tacitly support them, without getting money from us (and the EU). Much of that money is going for weapons, but we pretend it doesn’t in the absence of an audit or ink-signed confession that it does.
Terrorists have been made into negotiation partners in this age of new normals. The news entertainment industry matters as much as the gubmint in formation of opinion on Moslem activists. Sure, it’s patently ridiculous to act as if Al Qaeda is bad but the Taliban is better . But, if it’s presented as an acceptable new normal on the TV, then full cover for such a self-harming policy by Western gubmints is provided.
The notion that there are subtle shades of gray among Jihadists is as believable as the lie given in the taxpayer-financed offical gubmint report that the Great Recession was caused by greedy bankers and not the legal practice of forcing them to loan to unqualified borrowers, who were misled and tricked into making the loans. The Barney-Chris socialist central policy of levying big fines (and bad publicity) on banks who dared to stick to the age old standard that a borrower must have good credit. But both lies have been successfully peddled to us by the elites.
Moslems don’t deserve aid from us for any use, not for food or clothing or heating oil. But, with help from the news entertainment industry, the daily use of that taxpayer money to buy weapons has somehow become okay, a new normal that must be accepted as “pragmatic” and “realistic.”
I’d certainly talk with them… by teleconference. But they might not like what I had to say.
Early this morning I managed to pick a piece of paper from David Axelrod’s pocket and discovered the following song that, according to a scribbling Axelrod added, was written by the President and Secretary of State. Musical notes were included and when played on my piano turned out be written to the tune of “We love you Conrad” from Bye Bye Birdie:
We love you Morsi
Oh yes we do
You sponsor terrorists
And hate the Jews
When you’re not near us
We’re blue
Oh Morsi we love you.
ROTFLMAO
Have a positive radioactive test result (preferably from a Swiss lab)?
In September ?
11 years after September Eleven we have a “president” who invites islamic terrorists at the White House ?
What have the Families of the 9/11 Victims to say about this ?
#6 Alarmed Pig Farmer wrote: “Fox channels are Jihad-friendly; they totally accept the centrally important fantastic notion that Moderate Moslems actually exist”.
So what would you call self-identifying Muslims who risk their “lives … fortunes and … sacred honor” to serve with or alongside the forces of the U.S. and several allies in battling Islamists? The simple minded view that all Muslims/Islam participate in or support war against the West is the flipside of the simple minded RoP meme.
Here is a summary of the views of Daniel Pipes on moderate Islam/Muslims: “The idea that Islam cannot change is an essentialist view that ignores how much Islam has changed over history, an aspect that he, as a student of Islamic history for forty years, appreciates. He stressed that many of the requirements of the Shari’a, or Muslim sacred law, are impractical to implement, resulting in what Mr. Pipes has coined as the “medieval synthesis,” whereby loopholes are devised to get around impractical tenets, such as the prohibition against usury … those who argue that Islam itself is the problem leave the West with no solutions, adding that, to truly reform Islam, Western governments must begin to empower genuine moderates (http://www.danielpipes.org/7843/moderate-islam-western-ally-myth)”.
I would think that most PJM readers recognize that Pipes is one of our leading experts on Islam and a debunker of PC memes such as RoP. Yes, I’m familiar with alternate analysis, for example Robert Spencer. But, here is Spencer quoting Pipes with approval on the comparison of their views: “Robert Spencer and I have discussed the perceived differences in our view of Islam. He and I concluded that, although we have different emphases – he deals more with scriptures, I more with history – we have no disagreements. (http://frontpagemag.com/2010/robert-spencer/is-there-a-moderate-islam/)”. I think I’m echoing our host “Spengler” when I argue that it is not enough to just review scripture, one must examine how people live a religion (history) to understand it.
So what would you call self-identifying Muslims who risk their “lives … fortunes and … sacred honor” to serve with or alongside the forces of the U.S. and several allies in battling Islamists?
Irrelevant is what I’d call ‘em. Or phonies looking to learn from the best military or earth, and making a good buck while doing it. Maj. Hasan at Ft. Hood comes to mind, so does Sgt. Major Akbar who killed two of his 101st Airborne commanding officers preparing to do battle on behalf of Kuwait.
Funny, that hasn’t happened with Buddhist or Hindu servicemen, and both Hasan and Akbar stated that they did their treason-murders as their duty in the Cause according to the Ko-Ran.
No, lemme take that back. I wouldn’t call ‘em irrelevant or phony; I’d call ‘em a needless danger. No Moslem has any business in our military, nor in any police force, fire station or hospital. Too dangerous to have, too expensive to constantly monitor.
Your response is, among other things, both ungrateful to those who have risked much for you and foolish in that you want to throw away important assets.
Of course you didn’t even make an attempt to rebut Daniel Pipes’ discussion of moderate Muslims.
After all, how could Pipes be correct and Alarmed Pig Farmer be wrong?
from somebody who just a few days ago jumped on michele bachmann, who is doing the very thing that would stop obama from ever inviting morsi to the white house, if not this time right now, any time ever hereafter, and while at it, serve both to rid ourselves of the muslim brotherhood crowd that has infiltrated our government at its highest levels over many years already, and prevent any of them from doing so again.
rolling on the floor laughing his ass off at some cute little lyrics certainly isn’t going do any of that.
Note that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has an aide who is connected to the Muslim Brotherhood, both through her family and personally, namely, Huma Abedin. (See Andrew McCarthy’s article about this.)
The Blind Shiek needs a long drop with a short rope. Hang him right next to that Jewish guy that is doing life for spying. Then send the bodies back to their respective nations. If Israel and Egypt want their criminals back, send them home in a pine box.
As far as the terrorist issue, there is no international standard for what a terrorist is. Next year, when the 0bumbler is in Africa, enjoying his stolen billions, Mitt needs to tell the UN they have 1 week to produce an acceptable definition of terrorist, or we close that little house of horrors down. Pick up the UN Diplomats and put them on a plane to London. Then have the FBI toss the UN building for data on the thousands of spies being controlled from the UN.
Haji can’t shoot.
You forget what president we’re talking about here. Our divider in chief has made it his personal mission to dismiss some of America’s oldest friends and encourage some of her oldest enemies. It all goes along with his “hope and change” idea. “I HOPE the voters don’t stop me before I can CHANGE America to my father’s dreams (nightmares).”
People here won’t. Do anything. This foreign born dysfunctioning
Man should be examined by a team of Dr’s, psychologists and psychiatrists.
He has such a firewall around him trying to keep their jobs
That not one will confront him. He has so much crap in his past
That anyone who has been in any therapy., 12 step program, counseling
Or in the profession knows he is disturbed.
Our country should have required regular examinations to make sure
All leaders do. Not have organic and environmental issues that
Could go into a psychotic. Break. Do we have enough proof now he
Will not be loyall to our country if he is defeated. Do we want
To support Nd protect them for the rest of their lives while they
Sabotage our country anytime it. Benefits them?
It is one of the most important reason s. we were to. Vet And have a reAl
American as ou leader. Too. bAd we can’t here whAt Michelle and O
Say in private about what they believe Much has. Been revealed
It makes one look at history & Imagine If
we only read the main stream medias spin.
As the big O believes in killing unborn babies and not having babies (same sex marriage) eating babies would be an appetizer.
I just got a chill down my spine… when Obama is packing his stuff to leave office in December, do you think he would be brazen enough to pardon that blind sheik? Or others like him?
There’s little doubt that in the lame duck period he’ll do a lot of disgusting things — just about anything he can get away with — because he has little integrity, dignity and no shame. But it doesn’t seem likely that he would release convicted terrorists — at least not the Blind Sheik. We can only hope that if he tried that that our cowardly Congress would get some you-know-whats and find a way to stop it.
Of course, it depends upon what he has in mind for the future. I suspect that if he goes too far over the top, it could damage future $$ plans, or any acceptance and honors as a former president. I don’t know what the legal consquences are if he is employed by a foreign gov’t — or if there are any.
Something tells me he wouldn’t like his adorable girls raised under Sharia somewhere — no matter how wealthy he might become.
I do find it odd that he’s mentioned that this will be his “last” election — or possibly his “last” birthday as president. After a first term, all presidents have been in the same situation, but I don’t recall any of them ever talking about it. It’s odd.
(cont’d)
Perhaps the “last election” talk was a wink-wink without saying directly, what he said to Medvedev — that he’ll do a lot more for his base once he has the “flexibility” of no concern about elections.
Yes, that’s what it must have been.
All it would require is for him to be a Christian! We are facing serious trouble. Please read, ‘THE COMING: A TRUE STORY OF HORROR’@ Amazon.com
Hmmmmm…….baby puppies? Cuz that might get him an overnight invite……..
Dear Paul,
I thinkMichelle and O will be truly disgusting when they leave.
Their Masks will be cracked and their psyches in pure rage.
If he ignored our ways and means of behaving. Who does he think can
Stop him?
Holder’s crimes have been swept under. Our country and leaders
So fear being called. RACIST
There will be big doses of civil unrest led by Jackson and Sharpton
But they don’t want to fac
e that many blacks will have voted the
Marxist out
Eating children doesn’t do it for the Muslim Brotherhood – Muslims blow up their children.
That’s what those cute little C4 vests are for – outfit little Majeed in his new – fitted ‘bomber jacket’ and send him out to mill around an Israeli School Bus! (Couldn’t help ‘bomber jacket‘- it just came out.)
Been really concerned when I found out that the UAW was sending dues dollars to assist with the Brotherhoods election efforts during Arab Spring – now why would any thinking person do that?
Is the Union looking that hard for new members ? Do they think that their infidel heads won’t roll along with the rest of the ‘non-believers’ when the Islam Caliphate takes hold ?
What would Morsi do to get disinvited?
Look at Mooch down his nose and ask, get me a coffee abd.
As we see in Lybia and elsewhere blacks aren’t exactly exhalted amongst Middle Eastern Muslims.
There must be a US law that can indict the most arrogant and evil Obama’s REGIME for its CONNECTION to Islamic terrorist orgs like the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) and al-Qaeda (since both are connected a sfrom Mr. McCarthy’s article here has proven). I suspect, Osama is executed right away, under the order of Muslim Brotherhood-jihadist loving Dictator/War Criminal Obama, just as top Taleban leaders are also being executed by drones in Pakistan, instead of being held up as prisoners to gain more vital information, is in order to cover up the top secrets of such organizations. Such as Al-Qaeda and Taleban (as of the Salafist, Boko Haram and al-Shabaab) are actually created/sponsored by the Saudi-Qatar royals/Muslim Brotherhood. Osama bin Laden might be just a small fish in this big dirty and most dangerous game played by Obama and his beloved Saudi king and the MB – is it any wonder that Obama was literally bowing to the Saudi king when he first got elected and courted the MB in his first foreign speech in Cairo, to declare Islam’s glory and celebrate with his Muslim Brothers jihadists?! The horror of the White House being infiltrated/RUN by Saudi/Qatar-funded Muslim Brotherhood terrorist jihadists might be a reality after all!
Why have him disinvited? Let him come and let’s have over 100,000 Americans demonstrate in front of the White House – the relatives of the victims of 9/11 – use the event as an opportunity to force media to review all the atrocities perpetrated by the Muslim Brotherhood since their inception – use it as a grand media event – force the Americans who have been wearing blinders to take them off, to become aware of the most Anti-American president we’ve ever had and to bring about his end.
Speogler, I don’t know how else to find out, so I must go off topic, but what has happened to AToL? It’s seems to have vanished down the memory hole.
Langenbahn,
Asia Times is migrating to a new server. It was hoped that the migration would be finished by this morning, but that evidently did not happen.
Thank you. I will await further developments.
ATTENTION DPG, ALL YOUR ASIA TIMES ARTICLES ARE UNREACHABLE NOW DUE TO A BAD LINK: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/spengler.html SEE? ERROR 404.
SABOTAGE, MAYBE?
ATTENTION DPG, ALL YOUR ASIA TIMES ARTICLES ARE UNREACHABLE NOW DUE TO A BAD LINK THAT PRODUCES AN ERROR 404.
SABOTAGE, MAYBE?
Gaucho, Asia Times is changing servers. All should be back on line soon.
“What Would Egypt’s Morsi Have to Do to Get Disinvited by Obama — Eat Babies?”
Yes. Next question…