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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 05:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>31. robotech master,

But, Ron is a hunkalicious emotional man. Who cares about facts when emotions are running through your noggin&#039;?

Ron is beautiful. Ron is Great. Ron is way better than Cheeze Whiz.

Ron is a lover, not a fighter.

/sarc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>31. robotech master,</p>
<p>But, Ron is a hunkalicious emotional man. Who cares about facts when emotions are running through your noggin&#8217;?</p>
<p>Ron is beautiful. Ron is Great. Ron is way better than Cheeze Whiz.</p>
<p>Ron is a lover, not a fighter.</p>
<p>/sarc</p>
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		<title>By: Shmuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shmuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ron, 

The internet sucks.  If you keep writing (intelligent) posts directed at humiliating moronic commentors, you will only attract more moronic comments.  Since I don&#039;t believe you actually gain any satisfaction by trudging through this slop, I beg you to stop taunting these schmucks and get back to writing about something else.  

On the other hand, maybe these idiots do in some way represent the zeitgeist, and exposing the current, top-selling brand of Stupid to your characteristic obsessive level of scrutiny is important.  That&#039;s even more sad, isn&#039;t it though?  Maybe not.  Anyway these freaks just strike me as very dull.  What else do we need to know about them?  What do you think you could possibly teach them?

Sincerely,

A longtime fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ron, </p>
<p>The internet sucks.  If you keep writing (intelligent) posts directed at humiliating moronic commentors, you will only attract more moronic comments.  Since I don&#8217;t believe you actually gain any satisfaction by trudging through this slop, I beg you to stop taunting these schmucks and get back to writing about something else.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, maybe these idiots do in some way represent the zeitgeist, and exposing the current, top-selling brand of Stupid to your characteristic obsessive level of scrutiny is important.  That&#8217;s even more sad, isn&#8217;t it though?  Maybe not.  Anyway these freaks just strike me as very dull.  What else do we need to know about them?  What do you think you could possibly teach them?</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>A longtime fan.</p>
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		<title>By: robotech master</title>
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		<dc:creator>robotech master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 30. Delia

I think most ppl understand that old Ron doesn&#039;t base his views on facts, history, logic or even many times reality. Most ppl comment here only to correct the blatant errors that he makes so as ppl who may stop by who don&#039;t know him have something rational to read. 

Facts like, 

Big/Central/Authoritarian Government are Leftwing

Racism is a form of Collectivism... all racists believe in collectivism and all collectivists are racist or prejudice. Collectivism is also Leftwing.

Socialism as an economic form have the government take over more and more of the economy. Socialism is of course Leftwing.

So lets go down the list.

Did hitler believe in Big/Central/Authoritarian Government...? Now keep in mind I&#039;m not history expert but I&#039;m going to go with Yes.

Was hitler racist and prejudice and believed in collectivism...? Once again not a history expert but going with Yes again.

Did hitler take over large sections of the economy and place them under government control...? Once again Yes.

Lets review the score card.
3 Yeses 0 Nos 

Hitler is clearly and undoubtedly Leftwing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 30. Delia</p>
<p>I think most ppl understand that old Ron doesn&#8217;t base his views on facts, history, logic or even many times reality. Most ppl comment here only to correct the blatant errors that he makes so as ppl who may stop by who don&#8217;t know him have something rational to read. </p>
<p>Facts like, </p>
<p>Big/Central/Authoritarian Government are Leftwing</p>
<p>Racism is a form of Collectivism&#8230; all racists believe in collectivism and all collectivists are racist or prejudice. Collectivism is also Leftwing.</p>
<p>Socialism as an economic form have the government take over more and more of the economy. Socialism is of course Leftwing.</p>
<p>So lets go down the list.</p>
<p>Did hitler believe in Big/Central/Authoritarian Government&#8230;? Now keep in mind I&#8217;m not history expert but I&#8217;m going to go with Yes.</p>
<p>Was hitler racist and prejudice and believed in collectivism&#8230;? Once again not a history expert but going with Yes again.</p>
<p>Did hitler take over large sections of the economy and place them under government control&#8230;? Once again Yes.</p>
<p>Lets review the score card.<br />
3 Yeses 0 Nos </p>
<p>Hitler is clearly and undoubtedly Leftwing.</p>
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		<title>By: James S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to be able to attend a Tea Party as I have been out of the country for the last 11 months. I have looked at many of the photos of these events though. No just the ones in the MSM, but personal online albums as well. I have yet to see one of these Hitler signs you refer to. From other comments I gather that they exist though. Were they home made or printed? Most of the pics of signs carried by the protestors seemed to be hand made. Can someone please direct me to a picture of one of these Obama/Hitler signs? They must be pretty rare. BTW, Mr. Rosenbaum, how strenuously did you and your colleagues on the left object to similar depictions of Pres. George W. Bush? If you didn’t bother to control your moonbats for the last 8 years it seems rather hypocritical of you to ask us to restrain our wingnuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to be able to attend a Tea Party as I have been out of the country for the last 11 months. I have looked at many of the photos of these events though. No just the ones in the MSM, but personal online albums as well. I have yet to see one of these Hitler signs you refer to. From other comments I gather that they exist though. Were they home made or printed? Most of the pics of signs carried by the protestors seemed to be hand made. Can someone please direct me to a picture of one of these Obama/Hitler signs? They must be pretty rare. BTW, Mr. Rosenbaum, how strenuously did you and your colleagues on the left object to similar depictions of Pres. George W. Bush? If you didn’t bother to control your moonbats for the last 8 years it seems rather hypocritical of you to ask us to restrain our wingnuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I think some of you are missing the big picture.

Ron rants here from his heart and soul and most of his &#039;shtick&#039; is purely based on &#039;emotion&#039;.

Geez.

Let a guy have a mid-life crisis for goodness sake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I think some of you are missing the big picture.</p>
<p>Ron rants here from his heart and soul and most of his &#8216;shtick&#8217; is purely based on &#8216;emotion&#8217;.</p>
<p>Geez.</p>
<p>Let a guy have a mid-life crisis for goodness sake!</p>
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		<title>By: robotech master</title>
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		<dc:creator>robotech master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To 28. Dave


Facts are not welcome here... plus old Ron knows all about SEIU and LaRouche he just doesn&#039;t care. It doesn&#039;t fit his fantasy so its merely blocked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To 28. Dave</p>
<p>Facts are not welcome here&#8230; plus old Ron knows all about SEIU and LaRouche he just doesn&#8217;t care. It doesn&#8217;t fit his fantasy so its merely blocked out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. the &quot;hitler mustache&#039; signs are prints, professional prints, of a graphic made for Lyndon LaRouche lefties...  many of them have been seen in hallways where SEIU thugs are preparing to launch on the tea party crowd.. they are not only very FEW tea party signs, they are NO tea party signs, as I consider LaRouchians as interlopers who share none of my values and concerns and I KNOW the hitler signs are often carried by SEIU plants trying to make us look bad.

Now, the swastikas I&#039;m not so sure about.  I did see one in DC (ONE!!!) that was hand made and not printed.  But the hitler mustache signs are entirely NOT right wing rage.  They are printed and distributed, and often carried by SEIU plants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. the &#8220;hitler mustache&#8217; signs are prints, professional prints, of a graphic made for Lyndon LaRouche lefties&#8230;  many of them have been seen in hallways where SEIU thugs are preparing to launch on the tea party crowd.. they are not only very FEW tea party signs, they are NO tea party signs, as I consider LaRouchians as interlopers who share none of my values and concerns and I KNOW the hitler signs are often carried by SEIU plants trying to make us look bad.</p>
<p>Now, the swastikas I&#8217;m not so sure about.  I did see one in DC (ONE!!!) that was hand made and not printed.  But the hitler mustache signs are entirely NOT right wing rage.  They are printed and distributed, and often carried by SEIU plants.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while technically Hitler was a fascist, with behind-scenes power over most large businesses and hands-on power over organs of government and public communications, his party was called the National Socialist party, and Hitler did play class against class and collect all real power to government.

the &quot;not a socialist&quot; argument is a distinction without a difference.  

Not to mention some sort of inoculation by the left against its own side being called Nazis, after all the years they&#039;ve been calling the RIGHT nazis.  Now that someone examines Hitler and discovers he is much more a creature of the left than the right, along come lefties like you to &#039;explain&#039; to us why Hitler actually was US and not YOU.

I&#039;m tired of Hitler.  Let&#039;s get going on Chairman Mao, now that he&#039;s the new flavor on capitol hill and in the white house.

Any arguments that Mao was somehow secretly a right winger?

didn&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while technically Hitler was a fascist, with behind-scenes power over most large businesses and hands-on power over organs of government and public communications, his party was called the National Socialist party, and Hitler did play class against class and collect all real power to government.</p>
<p>the &#8220;not a socialist&#8221; argument is a distinction without a difference.  </p>
<p>Not to mention some sort of inoculation by the left against its own side being called Nazis, after all the years they&#8217;ve been calling the RIGHT nazis.  Now that someone examines Hitler and discovers he is much more a creature of the left than the right, along come lefties like you to &#8216;explain&#8217; to us why Hitler actually was US and not YOU.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m tired of Hitler.  Let&#8217;s get going on Chairman Mao, now that he&#8217;s the new flavor on capitol hill and in the white house.</p>
<p>Any arguments that Mao was somehow secretly a right winger?</p>
<p>didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought &#039;my&#039; emotions run the gamut.

*chuckle*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I thought &#8216;my&#8217; emotions run the gamut.</p>
<p>*chuckle*</p>
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		<title>By: robotech master</title>
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		<dc:creator>robotech master</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t even know where to start with this retarded rant so completely devoid of facts, logic and filled with hyperbole. 

I guess I may as well start at the top....

&quot;Somehow it’s become a meme among the historically ignorant on the right–who have totally driven themselves into hysterical frenzies of ignorant hatred for Obama&quot;


No one needs to drive themselves into a hysterical frenzy of ignorant hatred of obama since we now have the internet and most of the ppl in a hysterical frenzy are the most informed ppl when it comes to obama... which is why they&#039;re in a hysterical frenzy... in fact those that are completely ignorant of both history and obama tend to be the most accepting of him.(funny how it was the same for hitler)

&quot;(Hitler was a socialist; Obama is a socialist therefore Obama equals Hitler).&quot;

Well you are correct in that obama is a socialist... you are also correct in that hitler was a socialist. Now you are of course wrong that obama could ever be hitler. Hitler was a combat soldier who was awarded medals for bravery and loved his country. On the other hand obama is a coward who hates his country...hitler was also white... obama is only 50% white and 45% arab. So its pretty clear that obama could never be hitler.(and those are just the most striking and superficial) The fact that you could even imply such as thing shows you really know nothing about history, obama or hitler.


&quot;The proof that Hitler was a socialist: his party was called “The National Socialist Democratic Workers Party”. Duh! By that logic you must believe that North Korea is a democracy because its official name is The Democratic Republic of North Korea.&quot;

The massive historical ignorance displayed in this post is well massive. If you bother to even read some basic history it very easy to tell hitler was a socialist. The only argument is was he a fascist or a communist. The simple fact is he started a classic socialist path. First as a fascist and as the economy fell apart under socialist pressure he steadily moved toward communism.(we will never know if he would have gone full commie or not but based on history its a good bet) This is of course basic sociology... A socialist state always moves further to the left to fix the problems with socialism... we&#039;ve seen it in many many cases like hitler, stalin, mao and countless others. To say hitler wasn&#039;t a socialist is to say stalin wasn&#039;t a socialist. 

&quot;Do you believe everything Hitler said about himself and the Nazi Party?&quot; 

Clearly you seem to... you also seem to believe whatever rewrites of history that leave out the &quot;hitler years&quot; of everything 20 April 1889 – 20 April 1945 and believe hitler was 21 April 1945 was the way hitler was in 20 April 1889. I also find it funny how you say Nazi party at the end... since hitler NEVER called his own party the Nazi party(expect to decry its use)... because nazi was a slur term used against socialists.

&quot;The fact that someone has to point this out is an indication of how stunningly deranged and disproportionate the opposition to Obama has become.&quot;

I guess I don&#039;t see your point... your impressively ignorant of hitler or socialism or history... your not the one to talk.



&quot;You disagree with him about health care? Fine. Many Americans agree, but respect intelligent criticism. You disagree with him about health care are and think he’s Hitler? You need professional help.&quot;

As I have pointed out in past threads to call a spade a spade, a nazi a nazi, a commie a commie is taboo in todays world no matter how true or false it is....it does seem that ppl have issues when intelligent criticism... such as calling a spade a spade...

The question is &quot;is obama care like hitler care?&quot;. Now I&#039;m not expert on hitler care since I don&#039;t read german... and thus couldn&#039;t even look it up. However from what I read and from hitler and obama both being socialists its a fair bet that have similar ideas. Now of course no one is going to really check to see how similar because we all know it would be similar enough to hit every rightwing blog and make glenn back... so their no chance in hell someone is going to research it. Of course ppl like you will still decry calling a spade a spade.

&quot;Are you aware of the nature of Hitler’s chief opposition, the German Social Democratic Party? Frankly I doubt it.&quot;

Are you aware of the nature of stalin chief opposition... the communist party? Like all dictators in all socialists/leftwing movements they&#039;re are always countless others in the same group or similar ideologies that want to be top dog... and that also get purged by the top dog. Its a very weak slight of hand argument made by ppl who think others are so completely uneducated in the basics of how a power struggles ensues. I&#039;m sure since you researched hitler so much you could tell us about all the jews that supported hitler throughout his raise to power even many that helped put other jews into death camps....are you going to argue that hitler was part of a jewish conspiracy to take over the world next... its about as logical as your &quot;chief opposition&quot; argument. 


&quot;(yes, they were socialists! and pro-democracy!)&quot; 

So was hitler... whats your point?

&quot;as someone who has spoken with aging German social democrats, whose fellow party members were murdered by Nazi thugs on the streets and in the concentration camps, I have to say to the Hitler mustache crew: Have you no shame, have you no decency? Have you no ability to read history?&quot;

I&#039;m sorry but your joking right? Are you going to complain next about how the poor commies who if had gained power would have slaughter millions as well, how they had their members murdered by socialists and put in camps... 

&quot;Are you not aware of how sickening your trivialization of Nazi evil is.&quot; 

Are you not aware of how you trivialize socialist evil... because Nazi means socialist.... are you not aware the fact that ppl just like you were helping explain away hitlers election policies and past when he was running? Are you not aware of what happens when ever any form of socialism take hold of a country or a ppl? Are you not aware that ppl like you are paving the way for socialist dictators all across the world to come to power and be accepted as &quot;good pro-democracy ppl&quot;.

&quot;You are traducing the memory of some of the bravest defenders of democracy in Germany by mimicking the Nazis’ meretricious expropriation of the socialist name. Are you unable to distinguish between Nazi Germany and the democratic socialism of Sweden, say? Are you that detached from reality?&quot;

Are you aware that socialists have many names and they include but not limited the top 3 largest mass murders in history? Are you once again agreeing that Nazis are socialists?... just a slightly different kind of socialist from those in sweden... I&#039;ll also point out that sweden didn&#039;t fight germany and had open trade with them through much of the war... and many swedes agreed with hitlers goals.... but I&#039;m sure you knew that but simply forgot to post such info....(just as the vast majority of all euros both peasant and elite also agreed with hitlers ideals but once again I&#039;m sure you simply just forgot to mention that minor tidbit of info.)

&quot;The German Social Democratic party fought the Nazis in the streets, in the press (see my chapter on the socialist anti-Hitler newspaper, The Munich Post) whose reporters risked their lives to warn the world about the evil brewing in Germany. Evil fomented by Nazi lies and violence. The German Social Democratic Party was, by the way, hated not just by the Nazis but by the Communists as well.&quot;

All power hunger groups hate when another power hungry group gets in power... you don&#039;t think true &quot;believers&quot; in communism didn&#039;t do the same vs stalin.. they sure did. Its a very weak argument. All left wing groups have &quot;true believers&quot; in them in fact those tend to be the hitlers.... the difference being of course hitler made it to the top and had control to mess things up while other &quot;true believers&quot; died in the trenches. 

&quot;Both totalitarian groups couldn’t abide a genuinely pro-democratic party. (Are you aware there’s a difference between democratic socialism and totalitarian communism?&quot;

I agree that democratic socialists are totalitarian at least in the sense that all socialism leads to totalitarian most of all when the &quot;pleasure&quot; cycle is broken and they go bankrupt. Sweden of course hasn&#039;t hit that point unlike germany after WW1. Of course sweden will someday hit that point because it only stays afloat due to the massive mining and exporting it does... they will run out sometime soon and the classic socialist cycle will begin.

&quot;Hitler and his party were mass murdering racist, anti-semites&quot; 

You could have just said socialists or Left wingers... it would have saved you some typing.

&quot;who wanted to wage wars of subjugation and campaigns of extermination and caused a war that killed 60 million all told. The fact that some people need to be reminded of this–and the differences between Hitler and Obama — 

Funny in his speeches at the Olympics hitler didn&#039;t strike me as someone who wanted to &quot;wage wars or mass extermination&quot;... he speeches gave me a &quot;hope and change&quot; kind of feeling... o wait I forget you only know hitler 1945... yeah he was a bit of a downer dube... can&#039;t argue with that. I find it funny how you also like to remind everyone of the differences... which is a pretty short list from what you&#039;ve posted... how about talking about how they are similar... o wait that would take a long time and require alot of typing... 

&quot;is an indictment of the sad failure of the American educational system and the sad takeover of conservatism by hate-filled lynch mob ignoramuses.&quot;


Yes such a huge hate filled lynch mob... all armed but yet somehow obama is alive and well... you&#039;d think with a massive hate filled lynch mob armed to the teeth made up of US army soldiers and other combat soldiers from other branches that they would simply get they&#039;re lynch on... and yet obama is alive... and the guy is clearly INSANE... he goes out in PUBLIC with this crazed well armed lynch mob following him around EVERYWHERE. I mean lift up a rock find a hate filled lynch mob... check behind a tree... hate filled lynch mob... look in the sky... not a bird... not a plane... its a hate filled lynch mob. You really need to remember to take your meds your paranoid schizophrenic delusions are just running wild lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even know where to start with this retarded rant so completely devoid of facts, logic and filled with hyperbole. </p>
<p>I guess I may as well start at the top&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Somehow it’s become a meme among the historically ignorant on the right–who have totally driven themselves into hysterical frenzies of ignorant hatred for Obama&#8221;</p>
<p>No one needs to drive themselves into a hysterical frenzy of ignorant hatred of obama since we now have the internet and most of the ppl in a hysterical frenzy are the most informed ppl when it comes to obama&#8230; which is why they&#8217;re in a hysterical frenzy&#8230; in fact those that are completely ignorant of both history and obama tend to be the most accepting of him.(funny how it was the same for hitler)</p>
<p>&#8220;(Hitler was a socialist; Obama is a socialist therefore Obama equals Hitler).&#8221;</p>
<p>Well you are correct in that obama is a socialist&#8230; you are also correct in that hitler was a socialist. Now you are of course wrong that obama could ever be hitler. Hitler was a combat soldier who was awarded medals for bravery and loved his country. On the other hand obama is a coward who hates his country&#8230;hitler was also white&#8230; obama is only 50% white and 45% arab. So its pretty clear that obama could never be hitler.(and those are just the most striking and superficial) The fact that you could even imply such as thing shows you really know nothing about history, obama or hitler.</p>
<p>&#8220;The proof that Hitler was a socialist: his party was called “The National Socialist Democratic Workers Party”. Duh! By that logic you must believe that North Korea is a democracy because its official name is The Democratic Republic of North Korea.&#8221;</p>
<p>The massive historical ignorance displayed in this post is well massive. If you bother to even read some basic history it very easy to tell hitler was a socialist. The only argument is was he a fascist or a communist. The simple fact is he started a classic socialist path. First as a fascist and as the economy fell apart under socialist pressure he steadily moved toward communism.(we will never know if he would have gone full commie or not but based on history its a good bet) This is of course basic sociology&#8230; A socialist state always moves further to the left to fix the problems with socialism&#8230; we&#8217;ve seen it in many many cases like hitler, stalin, mao and countless others. To say hitler wasn&#8217;t a socialist is to say stalin wasn&#8217;t a socialist. </p>
<p>&#8220;Do you believe everything Hitler said about himself and the Nazi Party?&#8221; </p>
<p>Clearly you seem to&#8230; you also seem to believe whatever rewrites of history that leave out the &#8220;hitler years&#8221; of everything 20 April 1889 – 20 April 1945 and believe hitler was 21 April 1945 was the way hitler was in 20 April 1889. I also find it funny how you say Nazi party at the end&#8230; since hitler NEVER called his own party the Nazi party(expect to decry its use)&#8230; because nazi was a slur term used against socialists.</p>
<p>&#8220;The fact that someone has to point this out is an indication of how stunningly deranged and disproportionate the opposition to Obama has become.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t see your point&#8230; your impressively ignorant of hitler or socialism or history&#8230; your not the one to talk.</p>
<p>&#8220;You disagree with him about health care? Fine. Many Americans agree, but respect intelligent criticism. You disagree with him about health care are and think he’s Hitler? You need professional help.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I have pointed out in past threads to call a spade a spade, a nazi a nazi, a commie a commie is taboo in todays world no matter how true or false it is&#8230;.it does seem that ppl have issues when intelligent criticism&#8230; such as calling a spade a spade&#8230;</p>
<p>The question is &#8220;is obama care like hitler care?&#8221;. Now I&#8217;m not expert on hitler care since I don&#8217;t read german&#8230; and thus couldn&#8217;t even look it up. However from what I read and from hitler and obama both being socialists its a fair bet that have similar ideas. Now of course no one is going to really check to see how similar because we all know it would be similar enough to hit every rightwing blog and make glenn back&#8230; so their no chance in hell someone is going to research it. Of course ppl like you will still decry calling a spade a spade.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you aware of the nature of Hitler’s chief opposition, the German Social Democratic Party? Frankly I doubt it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you aware of the nature of stalin chief opposition&#8230; the communist party? Like all dictators in all socialists/leftwing movements they&#8217;re are always countless others in the same group or similar ideologies that want to be top dog&#8230; and that also get purged by the top dog. Its a very weak slight of hand argument made by ppl who think others are so completely uneducated in the basics of how a power struggles ensues. I&#8217;m sure since you researched hitler so much you could tell us about all the jews that supported hitler throughout his raise to power even many that helped put other jews into death camps&#8230;.are you going to argue that hitler was part of a jewish conspiracy to take over the world next&#8230; its about as logical as your &#8220;chief opposition&#8221; argument. </p>
<p>&#8220;(yes, they were socialists! and pro-democracy!)&#8221; </p>
<p>So was hitler&#8230; whats your point?</p>
<p>&#8220;as someone who has spoken with aging German social democrats, whose fellow party members were murdered by Nazi thugs on the streets and in the concentration camps, I have to say to the Hitler mustache crew: Have you no shame, have you no decency? Have you no ability to read history?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but your joking right? Are you going to complain next about how the poor commies who if had gained power would have slaughter millions as well, how they had their members murdered by socialists and put in camps&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;Are you not aware of how sickening your trivialization of Nazi evil is.&#8221; </p>
<p>Are you not aware of how you trivialize socialist evil&#8230; because Nazi means socialist&#8230;. are you not aware the fact that ppl just like you were helping explain away hitlers election policies and past when he was running? Are you not aware of what happens when ever any form of socialism take hold of a country or a ppl? Are you not aware that ppl like you are paving the way for socialist dictators all across the world to come to power and be accepted as &#8220;good pro-democracy ppl&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;You are traducing the memory of some of the bravest defenders of democracy in Germany by mimicking the Nazis’ meretricious expropriation of the socialist name. Are you unable to distinguish between Nazi Germany and the democratic socialism of Sweden, say? Are you that detached from reality?&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you aware that socialists have many names and they include but not limited the top 3 largest mass murders in history? Are you once again agreeing that Nazis are socialists?&#8230; just a slightly different kind of socialist from those in sweden&#8230; I&#8217;ll also point out that sweden didn&#8217;t fight germany and had open trade with them through much of the war&#8230; and many swedes agreed with hitlers goals&#8230;. but I&#8217;m sure you knew that but simply forgot to post such info&#8230;.(just as the vast majority of all euros both peasant and elite also agreed with hitlers ideals but once again I&#8217;m sure you simply just forgot to mention that minor tidbit of info.)</p>
<p>&#8220;The German Social Democratic party fought the Nazis in the streets, in the press (see my chapter on the socialist anti-Hitler newspaper, The Munich Post) whose reporters risked their lives to warn the world about the evil brewing in Germany. Evil fomented by Nazi lies and violence. The German Social Democratic Party was, by the way, hated not just by the Nazis but by the Communists as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>All power hunger groups hate when another power hungry group gets in power&#8230; you don&#8217;t think true &#8220;believers&#8221; in communism didn&#8217;t do the same vs stalin.. they sure did. Its a very weak argument. All left wing groups have &#8220;true believers&#8221; in them in fact those tend to be the hitlers&#8230;. the difference being of course hitler made it to the top and had control to mess things up while other &#8220;true believers&#8221; died in the trenches. </p>
<p>&#8220;Both totalitarian groups couldn’t abide a genuinely pro-democratic party. (Are you aware there’s a difference between democratic socialism and totalitarian communism?&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that democratic socialists are totalitarian at least in the sense that all socialism leads to totalitarian most of all when the &#8220;pleasure&#8221; cycle is broken and they go bankrupt. Sweden of course hasn&#8217;t hit that point unlike germany after WW1. Of course sweden will someday hit that point because it only stays afloat due to the massive mining and exporting it does&#8230; they will run out sometime soon and the classic socialist cycle will begin.</p>
<p>&#8220;Hitler and his party were mass murdering racist, anti-semites&#8221; </p>
<p>You could have just said socialists or Left wingers&#8230; it would have saved you some typing.</p>
<p>&#8220;who wanted to wage wars of subjugation and campaigns of extermination and caused a war that killed 60 million all told. The fact that some people need to be reminded of this–and the differences between Hitler and Obama — </p>
<p>Funny in his speeches at the Olympics hitler didn&#8217;t strike me as someone who wanted to &#8220;wage wars or mass extermination&#8221;&#8230; he speeches gave me a &#8220;hope and change&#8221; kind of feeling&#8230; o wait I forget you only know hitler 1945&#8230; yeah he was a bit of a downer dube&#8230; can&#8217;t argue with that. I find it funny how you also like to remind everyone of the differences&#8230; which is a pretty short list from what you&#8217;ve posted&#8230; how about talking about how they are similar&#8230; o wait that would take a long time and require alot of typing&#8230; </p>
<p>&#8220;is an indictment of the sad failure of the American educational system and the sad takeover of conservatism by hate-filled lynch mob ignoramuses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes such a huge hate filled lynch mob&#8230; all armed but yet somehow obama is alive and well&#8230; you&#8217;d think with a massive hate filled lynch mob armed to the teeth made up of US army soldiers and other combat soldiers from other branches that they would simply get they&#8217;re lynch on&#8230; and yet obama is alive&#8230; and the guy is clearly INSANE&#8230; he goes out in PUBLIC with this crazed well armed lynch mob following him around EVERYWHERE. I mean lift up a rock find a hate filled lynch mob&#8230; check behind a tree&#8230; hate filled lynch mob&#8230; look in the sky&#8230; not a bird&#8230; not a plane&#8230; its a hate filled lynch mob. You really need to remember to take your meds your paranoid schizophrenic delusions are just running wild lately.</p>
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